This is such a bullshit.She showed great character but still this should never have happened.I do sports all my life and love it.Winning is not the most important but the safety of all combatents which is in danger when a "girl" with manpower fights women.Kahlif is blocked by the official Boxingorganisation,only olympia allowed her/him to fight women.I trust the Boxingfederation more in this case of experiences and judgment.
@@JBeeShukrya No because its the other way round.I think you never cared about sport,compettion at all otherwise i cannot explain what you write.For me and everyone who thinks cleary the story is the following:The olympic comitee made a very big mistake which is amateurishly stupid.Now they have problems.First of all if someone gets injured or even worse they face much more than a shitstorm.On the other side Even though it's really hard for me to tolerate their gestures after the fight, I'm worried about the two "male" fighters because if they come out as men, at least in Algeria, it might have harsh consequences and bring shame.
XXY is inner sex, XY is Male XX is female. Where is the conspiracy in this? Where is the misinformation? The IBA said Imane Khelif was tested in 2023 and failed or having XY chromosomes. Do the math.
Well to be fair and transparent the IOC needs to release what her testosterone levels are and if she was born intersex with XY chromosome. Females aged 19-49 normal testosterone levels are around 8-48 ng/dL. Where intersex XY can have at least 144 ng/dl and even be in the normal testosterone range of a male. A males normal testosterone levels are between 300-1000 ng/dL. That is an advantage. Now this is not misinformation. The fact IOC will not share these important details is perplexing. Especially if Khalif is within the normal range of female testosterone levels and doesn't carry the XY chromosome.
Imane is a woman and has been defeated by 9 biological females. The other woman just quit. If you watch the fight it wasnt that bad. The woman wasnt brutalized.
I know I finally watched it after hearing all the bluff.,....I think that she was used honestly.... How much did the Italian player get paid to quit this soon and cry?
Yep, to spread more hā tē towards Muslims. Just like the attack on the little girls in England, the responsible was a Christian African, but they immediately jumped to attacking Muslims. @@wintermonroe2894
She is not a man but she's not a woman either. She's intersex. People trying to label her as a man or trans are completely wrong. But people calling her as a woman is also wrong. I don't care about her personal life, she can identify as she sees fit but in a match like this, she shouldn't have been allowed to play. Inclusion of intersex people in sports is really confusing. Making a new division doesn't make sense and letting them play in either male or female division also doesn't make sense.
People act like the majority of olympic athletes dont have genetic advantages. Might as well take back Phelps' medals cause his long ass arms and giant feet give him an unfair advantage.
You’re actually committing a fallacy by comparing unfair advantage with FairPlay. Unfair advantage would be attributed to an outside influence like strength enhancing drugs or in Trans women’s cases having higher amounts of testosterone that a normal women wouldn’t have. A person born with longer limbs may be tactfully useful in certain sports, but as long as FairPlay has been established then it’s of no concern.
Last year Imane Khelif was disqualified from the World Championships. The body that oversaw that 2023 event is the International Boxing Association (IBA) and it said the fighter failed gender eligibility tests.
@@georgemartin4354the same IBA that is banned from the Olympics for their ties (financially and politically) with Russia (also banned from the Olympics)…the IBA didn’t put out this information until SHE beat a Russian prospect who was undefeated. Because of the disqualification, the Russian boxer remained undefeated….the world isn’t as black and white as your views try to make it seem
He doesn't have a leg to stand on was born as a male that did not develop genitalia do some research the only way he can have male chromosomes is if he is a male come on do a little bit of Medical Research did you graduate year 10😅😅😅😅😅😅
@@georgemartin4354 the IBA's decision was likely politically motivated, they are framing lin and her as transwomen, despite knowing they are not. They did it to spark this debate and frame western countries and organisations as "too liberal" and wokeness as deranged. They likely did this because it was clear, both athletes would be competing this year in paris. Disqualifying them for not meeting gender norms wirhout specifically explaining what that means was done purposfully to spread doubt and misinformation in the boxing community. Its all propagandist calculation. They are not the only russian organisation to try and push identity politics, hatred, misinformation and even antidemocratical views with various ways, its actually scary how much people eat these lies up as long as they fit their prejudice. I am saddenend to see my fellow martial artists fall into this trap and believing their lies. In 2019 the IOC already stated, how the IBA's officials, judges and financial situation is dubious, so why would their thatre last year be taken serious? Both women are good fighters and were beaten by other female fighters before, anyone who believes this cr*p wants to believe it to push their personal agenda. Both the defeated opponents in the quarter finals are an embarassment for martial artists, using this dumb rhetorik to gain fame and excuse their loss. Sadly in boxing you only make money if you are famous, so if there is an explosive topic to use for your own career, most fighters will chose the immoral path and create drama (even if they know its bs) just to get their name out there😢
Rafael Dos Anjos does NOT know what he's talking about lol. He thinks Imane is just an outsider that just came in the olympics like that ? She made her debut in 2018 after 5 years of intensive training and in a country when it's socially rejected that a women can be a boxer. She wasn't always at the top but gradually make it, like all athletes after training and experience.
Imane has XY chromosomes and male muscles, it is NOT okay to have her fighting other women. It sucks for her, but we can't just throw all the women under the bus just to cater to her personal needs. Male's have DOUBLE the upper body strength of women, it's an incredibly large advantage. The type of muscle is also different. It more suited to fast high impact movement vs the weaker but more regenerative female muscle type.
@@Ppjjccgg it's spelled I-MAN-e. I can't write the two letters that come after W without getting censored 😆 yt on a power trip with this one. If my cat was born with dogs. Raised like a dog ,Dresses like a dog acts like a dog, is it a canine or a feline?
Khelif's boxing record Khelif is 37-9 with five knockouts at the amateur level. Khelif hasn't lost since May 2022 against Broadhurst. The 2023 World Championship matches were ruled no contests.So 9 women won over a man boxer? Wow ahahah and the 37 women who lost against her never complained she was a man mhhh strange.u guys are hilarious ahahah
Carini was a big shame for what she said and did to Imane. Carini did not apologize for her mistake, but just smiling and greeting Imane after the shameful match that she did in front of the entire world. If you are very sorry for your actions, you cry, not smile. She just giustified her bad and shameful behaviour , as nothing happened
Thats what I thought also, if any woman could beat a man in a fight, it would be an Irish woman. lol The Irish don't fight to live they fight to die, that's why they win.
Who said Iman has male chromosomes? Did you conduct a test to confirm this? The problem is that the world can't accept a real female champion from the Arab region. Iman competed in the previous Olympics, and no one raised any concerns about her. I want to point out the high level of hypocrisy in the Western world. Resorting to insults won't solve anything. Just respect Iman's hard work and her potential.
IBA confirmed it yesterday! they clearly said he failed the 'gender identity test' in 2022 and 2023 hence he is banned to play world championships but this Paris Olympics is promoting lady boys since day 1, so obviously he is allowed to play
You could do a simple search YOURSELF. She's been excluded previously because she has XY chromosomes. It's common knowledge... If you just looked it up instead of making such a fool of yourself.
With all due respect, your approach is quite amusing. Your classifications seem designed to provoke arguments and shift the discussion away from Iman to something entirely irrelevant. Try this tactic on someone else's comment, but not with me. Regards.
Angela carini literally said that she hopes that imane khelif will win… she said that she retreated because of herself not because of imane, and she didn’t say hi to her because she was out of it and if she saw her after she would have hugger her
It's honestly hard to discern the truth here. We are all being fed bits and pieces of information and biases are showing. Someone knows the absolute truth though. I personally don't know what the truth is. I have no ill will against Imane and no skin in the game. All I know is sometimes I see certain angles of head shots and think Imane is possibly female but most shots I see of Imane's body structure, stance, facial structures looks clearly male. So, I don't know. Somehow I feel a DNA test would resolve all this. Saying someone has "identified" a certain way since birth and was raised that way isn't enough.
I was getting annoyed by this blowing up my feed for some reason so I went to watch the full match (google it). Everyone made it sound like Carini was getting brutalized fighting an opponent with overwhelming strength, when it reality it was just 2-3 south paw JABS, the "fight" was over. She wasn't knocked out, bleeding or even looking dizzy and yet she just randomly decided to walk to her corner and give up. From what I've gathered so far is that Khelif is just a woman with some masculine features and that Carini is a pussy. I don't know why this has suddenly blown up, I wish I could get back the last 15 minutes I spent trying to find the fight online.
They did two tests that definitely prove xy chromosomes. However this really shouldn't be news to emani as there were testosterone tests and gender tests previously failed at. But I mean, gotta feel bad for the guy either way. Caught up in a huge controversy and he really just thought he was a big strong woman his whole life. I can't imagine something so radical like that happening to me in my life.
@@faytleingod1851it’s a woman. Her passport states that SHE is. Women can be born with higher than standard testosterone levels. It’s not new! But u can’t decide that just bcus she’s naturally born that way that she’s a man. U guys r acting like a lot of Olympic athletes aren’t genetically gifted. This is no different. Her PASSPORT states she’s a woman, even trans people have their biological sex but that wouldn’t be possible bcus Algeria doesn’t allow people to be trans. Stop spreading misinformation
They do not say she « identifies » she is a female born and raised a female you know what a birth certificate is don’t you ? She has a birth certificate that indicates she was born female. There is not such a thing as transwomen in Algeria my parents are from there it’s a Muslim country no doc would ever allow a gender change or even taking hormones to become a male that’s not a thing there !! And it’s the biggest joke to think that Algérie would present a trans athlete for the Olympics 😂😂That being said having high level of testosterone have nothing to do with your gender, she has hyperandrogenism which is a well known disease ( hormonal imbalance ) it’s like saying a guy who has low testosterone or high œstrogens is a female it’s just insane. The IBA is corrupted and can’t be trusted anyway that’s why they are not recognized by the Olympics instances.
I don’t know about trans vs trans. Lmao Theres only 2 genders. So you’re saying a man trying to look like a woman should be able to fight a woman that thinks she’s a man till she feels the power? Lol
@@apexvulture5415 She's q biological woman She's hyper androgenic that's all The XY rumours started just because of the incompetence of western media mess !
Why she has the body of a man. When she trains she does so with male genetics. If this is allowed than everyone else should be able to take testosterone when competing.
No one is getting sued, but the young lady is owed several public apologies. In this climate, where "enlightened" people support a biological male competing against females, the initial outrage is understandable. Now, the woman has some advantages that are similar to those of a trans athlete. However, the difference is that her physical advantages are likely due to a rare medical condition, making them natural. The results may be similar, but this is NOT the case of a man changing his gender and beating up on women.
Ban him for life you'll crazy out this how ish go all the way left Ban all of them trying to compete against women. That's a dude. Give me a break just like Michael Obama please wake up yoos
@@morph3301 There's only one organization saying that and their credibility is shaky. To say nothing of the fact that there are people whose sex chromosomes are different from their genitalia.
Iman video where she cries about the allegations really broke my heart She's a good girl and she thanked God for what happened to her anyway in the media
She took a hard hit early and couldn't recover her composure. Lot's of K.O.'s and T.K.O.'s start with one solid hit. It's a shame but if she felt she couldn't recover it was the right call to end the fight early, assuming the fight doctor and ref weren't close to calling the match already.
There is another italian boxer.I have seen their fight.dont know if it was qualifying rounds for a big tournament.Khelife beat her fair and square and that boxer didnt complain about anything.She lost and that was it!
It is not just about winning or losing. When Khelif lost to the Italian boxer back in 2020 no one complained not because Khelif lost but because Khelif’s genetic make up was not known at the time
There is a reason why women and men compete separately. World records in physical sports show the difference between the two sexes. If Imane K. were to reach his potential, he would become dominant in women's boxing. Imagine what would happen if M. Tyson started in the women's category, female boxers would have no chance. Imane has XY chromosomes, so he is male, so he should not compete in women's sports.
Khelif born and raised female, has fought for many years, has lost 9 times to women, is not a male trans. Not at all the same as Tyson being allowed to fight v women.
@@mizofan Can he give birth? No! So he's a man... so he has nothing to do with women. The point is not whether a woman can defeat a man (which is of course possible), but the law of large numbers, that shows the boundaries between the two sexes. So a man's physique, his bone structure is harder, for example, so they can cause more serious injuries to women (domestic violence are not coincidentally more typical from men to women), I could go on, but the point is that you have to be informed about biology, because then you can't be misled, because unfortunately some people do it on purpose to cause division, they do this directly, to cause division and use the misled layer, because of your kind (layer), "they" are in power and "thanks" to this there are wars too - everything is connected, so it is that the hand of the struggle caused by division reaches everywhere. The reason the female boxer gave up the fight is because any sane woman knows, minimum feels, that it is not an equal fight, so she has been dragged into a fearful, somewhat unfamiliar situation, and she is right, not the other side, because there is really no second side, there is only one truth, one final-conclusions. Think about it, these people would be ranked hundred something among men, and then they move to women and they're in the top 10. That should convince you, but if you still need help to distinguish between right and wrong, I'm here for you.
@mizofan females have the xx chromosomes you know. Xy chromosomes is male. Also losing 9 fights is a stupid point. Just because you lost a few times is no reason to fight in a class where you have unfair advantages
Carini has apologised. Khelif was born and raised a girl. She is not male to female trans. There is however a female to male trans fighting v women in this Olympics, but there's no great outrage or misandry over any unfair advantage
Attacking Khelif because she was born with higher XY chromosome count is like wanting to disqualify Lebrun James; Michael Jordan, Michael Phelps for being born with Atlético, height advantage and length in arms ‼️‼️‼️this girl is using what God have her but I still don’t see her going up agains Amanda Serrano or Kathy Taylor …
Imane Khelif was born women. She is a women from born and always was, there is a photo of her childhood. She just have naturaly XY chromosome.she is born with Swyer syndrome. She have XX with a XY as make up.
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Lol She tested high for testosterone she very well could have been born female and is taking testosterone, which is still CHEATING in a competitive women's sport where the rest can't use testosterone. Doesn't matter the reason she's taking it or why her levels are high. She clearly isn't taking estrogen to try and level it out. She knows it gives her an advantage. She is KNOWINGLY CHEATING.
Swayer people don't produce sex hormones, and they say this person was at some point tested with high testosterone. Explain it. If they don't produce sex hormones, then how testosterone got into Imane's body? And if Imane is a woman with Swayer, then why on Earth to inject testosterone, not estrogen?
Look at Simone Biles funny physical shape. I think it is a result of growth inhibiting drugs used by gymnasts previously. Usually, the best age for gymnasts are below 21 as they are still not adult and have the best shape. Some gymnasts wants to maintain the baby physique. Look at their upper torso. They are super muscular. The bottom half looks like pre puberty . Nowadays I don’t watch gymnastics as I can’t stand the funny physique of a lot of the gymnast. Look at Nadia Commanice. TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
Girls with Swyer syndrome have an XY chromosomal makeup (as boys normally do) instead of an XX chromosomal makeup (as girls normally do). Despite having the XY chromosomal makeup, girls with Swyer syndrome look female and have functional female genitalia and structures including a vagina, uterus and fallopian tubes.
The XX bit needs to be specified as the "Female *Typical* " as there are Females who have only one X chromosome, and sometime they have XXX, other times they have XXY, and even as XY. All of these are known Karyotype syndromes.
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I feel.confused.... on one hand the world feels bad for the italian boxer and on the other we are striving for equality between men and women.....but apparently women cannot defeat anyone even close to being a man..i feel defeated😢
Yeah man she is intersex 😂 and her old photo when she is a girl say that she is born in femal body and the thing of trans it's not something illegal in Algeria so
The men have enough. We need to stand to keep women sports for only women, not wanna be women . We have to go through enough already. I can't believe women are allowing this . I'm sick of men pretending to be a woman. I'm not pretending for anyone, and I don't care if they cry all day over my comment . They need to grow up already.
This is what women fought for, ERA hard at work, brought to you by women who could only see as far as their out stretched fingers, like that knock out punch, they never saw it coming!
"She" IS NUMBER TWO OF THE WORLD! stop saying she was beaten before that is ridicoluss, is she born with XY or XX... please give me the answer, can she have babys, has she a normal uterus and how normal are her testostern levels...jer blood test sayed she is a man but... when you answer this questions you've got your idear why people so confiused about this! I hop all the good for her but this is a thing of principals and not a personal story! Pace
He was only beaten by those females because he let them win. I don't beleive for one moment he gave his full power in the fights he so called "lost". You gotta sell your "product" and make people beleive youve miraculously changed your chromosomes, so you cant win all the fights, but he totaly could win them all if he wanted too. That's a fact!
This could be true, or he may have actually lost because he is a subpar male boxer going against top of their game female boxers. It doesn’t matter though. It’s still wrong.
I suspect he only "lost" fights that he knew wouldn't prevent him from going to the Olympics and so as to ensure they wouldn't disallow him for obvious reasons. And once he got there he magically becomes the new Muhammad Ali. I don't buy it one bit.
Don’t look now, but you’re exactly part of the problem. Haven’t y’all noticed that every time women beat men in sports it ends up with accusing men of not giving it their all, implying that the women didn’t earn their victories? Y’all treat female athletes like kids who believe in Santa Claus by underestimating and infantilizing them and then you blame it all on trans athletes for y’all’s perception of reality when discussing female athletes!
@@arondebreceni9464 born and raised as a girl, maybe an unusual condition, but certainly not male to female trans. Doesn't deserve all this hatred. Listen to an interview of her.
Why areso many referring to her childhood Pictures. Does puberty hit in this age especially when you have a rare conditione as woman? Where are Pictures from his/ her Teenage years??? That would be more interesting
Are you stupid? Imane Khelif Was born a man, but was brought up as a girl. There was no condition that caused anything. Actually it's not fair for XX to compete with XY. Because scientifically proven XY(BORN MALE) are physically stronger than XX ( BORN FEMALE). I don't care if you are want to be a woman but please don't go fighting XX for the little competition we worked so hard for.
She is not male to female trans though as many have claimed, was born and raised a girl- she may have a rare syndrome or condition, but she does not deserve all the venomous hatred
@@truelies5431 Source is the Russia governed World Boxing Championship saying she failed gender qualification tests _after_ Imane beat one of their fighters during her second season attendance. Why didn't they reject her during the first season or prior to this fight? We Don't know. What were the exact results of the tests? They refuse to provide any details... That's all the sources for now.
@@faytleingod1851Funny how the IBA who claimed she had XY chromosomes was BANNED in 2019 due to corruption and incompetence. Isn’t that crazy! That the misinformation you r spreading comes from a BANNED source and banned for a very good reason. But sure keep pushing that narrative
@@danielsedin6663 You are Lying, the old president was found to be dealing heroin and he was replaced in 2019. Just accept it. Imane is not a woman and has male DNA. Just accept it.
..and? Michelle Kwan won five world championships but couldn't win the gold at the Olympics. It's not easy to win a gold medal against the best athletes in the world and if you slip up the competition will pounce on your mistakes. Khelif has a good record, a great record to me, she's just not undefeated.
@@jimmelton5846 Sure, this was all a conspiracy by her family and the Algerian government to alter all of Khelif's records so that they could legally pass off a boy as a girl, on the off chance they would become an Olympic caliber athlete so they could win easy medals.
I mean, the dude/girl has a huge advantage. The people that say that a trans should be able to compete into the gender that they identify would have an argument if it were two sided. The ONLY people competing cross gender are the men to women, giving them an advantage. They only want to argue when it gives them an advantage. How many trans women to men competing in boxing? That would be ZERO!!!
This is the root problem of this issue, if women don’t stand for women’s right what do you expect. This guy took a medal of another woman and because she beat him she is ok with it.
But Imane Khelif was born women. She is a women from born and always was, there is a photo of her childhood. She just have naturaly XY chromosome.she is born with Swyer syndrome. She have XX with a XY as make up.
@@Whereareyounow12 Why? Do you know how many women are born with naturally elevated testosterone? Athletes are ALL different from each other on a biological level. For example, Michael Phelps has slightly different biology compared to other swimmers, which has lead to his body being built for swimming. It's one of the reasons, other than rigorous training, that has propelled him to win multiple gold medals. However, the way he is naturally built has given him advantage over other swimmers, which has helped lead to his unparalleled dominance in the sport. How would you effectively group all of the people who have slight deviations in their biology, and how do you determine what counts as a significant enough deviation? The way sports naturally are, unfortunately, is unfair. Taller players will almost always do better in basketball than people who are shorter. People with slightly longer arms have an advantage over opponents in combat sports. There's always a level of natural unfairness to sports, which is why what really matters isn't your slight biological advantages, but your prowess in said sport. So why should a biological woman be pushed into a separate category, because of her naturally occurring testosterone levels?
@@ouzqbe7025 fact is she has XY chromosomes which no matter if she was born a female… biologically she is at male level strength, endurance, ect. Her testosterone is way too high for almost all other females to even have a chance. It’s the same if she were to have been forced to fight a biological man. These sports need to ban real males from competing against *real* women. Including limiting testosterone levels like the league’s outside of the olympics do. But because so much of the world government is infested with extreme left liberal garbage… they claim it’s insensitive to those people instead of looking out for the safety and fairness of actual women. 🤷🏻
Every average man can Play the Top 100 in woman Sport After 5 years Training. And if you have a more than average man like lea Thomas Who was top 500 in man swimming....woman has no chance. If the few few transgenders Who focus not only the own body and start to train they will all end up like khelif. It is nothing against her, is not "her" fault. But i Think it is still not fair against the biological woman. But there will come mens along Who will try to use it only because of fast money. Who knows what here reasons are. Mfg
It sad she can’t be normal but facts are facts she shouldn’t be fighting in women it’s not her fault she was born like that either but that’s not right
Imane is smart enough to hold back his strength when he has to..he can't show his real power to every opponent because it will be too obvious so he has to act weak and deliberately lose
J.k rowling, Elon musk, Donald Trump, Logan Paul even Joe Rogan a guy that I really respect were all hating and they owe her an apology Edit: the Italian boxer who started all of this wants to apologize now
BOTH Imane Khelif and Lin Yu Ting were tested twice and found by the IBA (International Boxing Association) to have XY chromosomes, which are ONLY present in men NOT women. Endocrinologists also confirm the same things. The IOC chose to ignore the tests and instead go by what’s on their passports, which nowadays, people can change their gender on IDs, so that means nothing. Imane more than likely has DSD, which is very rare and when he was born, it’s very likely he appeared to be female, but at some point in his adolescence, it became more evident he was male. He’s never had a period in his life, and if he were really a Muslim woman and not a man, he also wouldn’t be shown in pictures spread eagle on his coach’s shoulders, which would be forbidden and seen as inappropriate, and he’s also seen working out in men’s shorts and t-shirts and with no hijab, and most Muslim women would be more covered and wearing a hijab even when working out. Obviously, by now, Khelif and his father are aware of the circumstances and are trying to save face because they don’t want to face the wrath of their own country and other consequences. Many female boxers who have fought and/or sparred with Khelif have been very concerned and observed the differences in Khelif’s stance and fighting style and power, which is that of a man’s. I’m pretty sure with him trying to sue, he will be forced to take a cheek swab or blood test to prove he’s a woman, or his medical results from the IBA will be released.
¿Quién se cree para juzgar a otro ser humano así? 1. La atleta argelina Hassiba Boulmerka ganó la medalla de oro en los JJOO de Barcelona en 1992, nunca usó hijab (NO ES OBLIGATORIO, es opcional), la llegaron a amenazar de muerte por usar poca ropa... Y 32 años más tarde viene usted a realizar la misma condena. Deje que cada cual se exprese como desee, usted reprima sus sentimientos usted use un hábito.. pero NO juzgue a otros
Usted abrió esta cuenta en verano 2024, usa el anonimato para la calumnia y la difamación... ¿En su familia ninguna mujer tuvo acné quistes en los ovarios vello corporal?😂esas mujeres sí que son raras xD
He has beaten because he isnt a good athlete.he just plays with more strength this is his advantage.bur real women champion will win him Anyway all this is unfair
Ever heard of intersex ? Chromosomes and hormones don’t always come in neat little packages. As someone who was born with different kinds of genetic disorders and variations , I can assure you; they exist.
@@lukasnagel4492 For the sake of getting you to research that a bit more, I won’t answer that, as intersex challenges us to examine that not everything is as finite in a box- there are animals that have a combination of both .
99% in this comment section dont understand the advantage in boxing when you have a ''man'' chromosone. Its not swimming, its boxing... its about the safety of a woman. Obv she already lost a couple fights. An olympic boxer could beat any man boxer who cannot qualify for the olympic games.
99% of people had no idea what combat sports were and are just woke zealots rushing to talk about something they have no idea about that's why. Having much higher testosterone levels than the competition in a combat sport is almost life threatening to the opposition with normal testosterone levels. Hell, everyone knows Yoel Romero is an absolute freak of nature too. But he's never been popped for steroids in a sport where you take tests constantly. Maybe he's cheating enough to get some benefit but not enough to get popped. But that's not the point. The point is that people bend over backwards to get much higher testosterone levels for training in combat sports because it gives you an absolutely clear advantage of recovering much faster so you can push your body well beyond your limit and feel like you're not even at your limit. That's the difference. With the difference in test, Iman could easily train 5 times harder than Angela without feeling absolutely demolished. And somehow that's not cheating in a sport where people give each other brain damage?
123 viva Algeria 🇩🇿 Imane you are our Algerian woman representative at the highest level...keep going...Carini is a bad loser....you are our champion❤123 viva Algeria God bless you...❤❤❤
Yes it is good that she apologised. That is the best attitude to have really but she damaged somehow imane khelif reputation....anyway hopefully things will be sorted for everyone 😀
The fact that she was beaten before says NOTHING about this subject. I'm a 1,94 man and i bet every woman in that competition would beat the shit out of me. That means i'm allowed to compete in female events?
She participated under IBA like 7 times for seven years and she only got disqualified when she defeated the Russian boxer and won 1st place in 2023?? Like whaaat? I mean she was a woman all those 7 years and when she finally won something she became a man?? 😅
So all of her loses of been because she let them win to keep competing? What’s the point in competing then if you’re going to let someone beat you in say an Olympic 1/4 final?
The italian boxer is a gimmick, really bad actor. But tell me why Khelif choose boxe and we have the story as full. Without that genetic freak he/she never goes in to high lvl.
Your strength levels are measured by the testosterone levels. You can make them go down for the test and you can make them goes up for the fight. The questio is... How much time between the test and the fight!
Being an XY fighter and not being very good doesn’t make it ok to compete in the female category. That logic is poor. She has clearly been hit in the head too many times.
just for laugh.if angela apologized to imame khelifh for geting beaten by him & her it shows angelas brain is damaged this is a new model racing car with double dual engine turbo 1 in front & 1 in rear incase of accidents dud can use rear engine door to escape
Mike Tyson supports Islam and is totally against TRANS and LGBTQ because Islam totally prohibited LGBTQ like no other religion ! Khelif is from RURAL ALGERIA where it is predominantly Muslim ! And she was biologically born with VAGINA & WOMB too ( FACT ) !!
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Angela Carini apologizes to Algerian boxer Imane Khelif: ruclips.net/video/9dkT4U8qK5Q/видео.html
This is such a bullshit.She showed great character but still this should never have happened.I do sports all my life and love it.Winning is not the most important but the safety of all combatents which is in danger when a "girl" with manpower fights women.Kahlif is blocked by the official Boxingorganisation,only olympia allowed her/him to fight women.I trust the Boxingfederation more in this case of experiences and judgment.
@@nasirian8473 You trust what fit to your soul !! When you re a lier, so the game of the liers suit you.
@@JBeeShukrya No because its the other way round.I think you never cared about sport,compettion at all otherwise i cannot explain what you write.For me and everyone who thinks cleary the story is the following:The olympic comitee made a very big mistake which is amateurishly stupid.Now they have problems.First of all if someone gets injured or even worse they face much more than a shitstorm.On the other side Even though it's really hard for me to tolerate their gestures after the fight, I'm worried about the two "male" fighters because if they come out as men, at least in Algeria, it might have harsh consequences and bring shame.
@@nasirian8473: HE’S NOT a girl. ONLY men can have XY chromosomes. The IOC is lying and hiding their test results.
@@nasirian8473 i agree with you
I hope she will sue them all including Elon Musk for trying to break her.
You mean HE!!! It’s a MAN!! 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
You think she has the money to take on Elon Musk? You're seriously smoking the good stuff
Who is she?
@@mystudyydiarywomen produce testosterone too
@@notalot22wow really😮😮😮 so what men produce 99% more😅
So many people are addicted to misinformation and conspiracy theories. It’s amazing to watch how a person can so easily be swayed.
XXY is inner sex, XY is Male XX is female. Where is the conspiracy in this? Where is the misinformation?
The IBA said Imane Khelif was tested in 2023 and failed or having XY chromosomes. Do the math.
Well to be fair and transparent the IOC needs to release what her testosterone levels are and if she was born intersex with XY chromosome.
Females aged 19-49 normal testosterone levels are around 8-48 ng/dL. Where intersex XY can have at least 144 ng/dl and even be in the normal testosterone range of a male. A males normal testosterone levels are between 300-1000 ng/dL.
That is an advantage. Now this is not misinformation. The fact IOC will not share these important details is perplexing. Especially if Khalif is within the normal range of female testosterone levels and doesn't carry the XY chromosome.
What's the misinformation? This person has a Y chromosome.
@@HansJuergBangerter I’m sure you got all this from Newsmax lol
People really are stupider than we give them credit for. We will believe any bullcrap as long as it’s persistently told.
Imane is a woman and has been defeated by 9 biological females. The other woman just quit. If you watch the fight it wasnt that bad. The woman wasnt brutalized.
I know I finally watched it after hearing all the bluff.,....I think that she was used honestly....
How much did the Italian player get paid to quit this soon and cry?
@@wintermonroe2894 exactly
Yep, to spread more hā tē towards Muslims. Just like the attack on the little girls in England, the responsible was a Christian African, but they immediately jumped to attacking Muslims. @@wintermonroe2894
She is not a man but she's not a woman either. She's intersex. People trying to label her as a man or trans are completely wrong. But people calling her as a woman is also wrong. I don't care about her personal life, she can identify as she sees fit but in a match like this, she shouldn't have been allowed to play.
Inclusion of intersex people in sports is really confusing. Making a new division doesn't make sense and letting them play in either male or female division also doesn't make sense.
@@imposter6952 i guess. You know that 9 biological females have beaten her, right?
People act like the majority of olympic athletes dont have genetic advantages. Might as well take back Phelps' medals cause his long ass arms and giant feet give him an unfair advantage.
Very well said. And his large thoracic cage which size is double that of his competitors gives him huge advantage too.
All the potential brain damage the water was exposed to when Phelps was in the pool needs to be looked into.
Yes, this type of advantage no one questions, the Chinese woman with twice the height of Rivas TB is not questioned
Michael Phelps having an advantage isn't going to get anyone disabled or killed. Head Trauma is different.
You’re actually committing a fallacy by comparing unfair advantage with FairPlay. Unfair advantage would be attributed to an outside influence like strength enhancing drugs or in Trans women’s cases having higher amounts of testosterone that a normal women wouldn’t have. A person born with longer limbs may be tactfully useful in certain sports, but as long as FairPlay has been established then it’s of no concern.
She should sue all those who defamed her.
Last year Imane Khelif was disqualified from the World Championships. The body that oversaw that 2023 event is the International Boxing Association (IBA) and it said the fighter failed gender eligibility tests.
@@georgemartin4354the same IBA that is banned from the Olympics for their ties (financially and politically) with Russia (also banned from the Olympics)…the IBA didn’t put out this information until SHE beat a Russian prospect who was undefeated. Because of the disqualification, the Russian boxer remained undefeated….the world isn’t as black and white as your views try to make it seem
He doesn't have a leg to stand on was born as a male that did not develop genitalia do some research the only way he can have male chromosomes is if he is a male come on do a little bit of Medical Research did you graduate year 10😅😅😅😅😅😅
@@georgemartin4354 the IBA's decision was likely politically motivated, they are framing lin and her as transwomen, despite knowing they are not. They did it to spark this debate and frame western countries and organisations as "too liberal" and wokeness as deranged. They likely did this because it was clear, both athletes would be competing this year in paris. Disqualifying them for not meeting gender norms wirhout specifically explaining what that means was done purposfully to spread doubt and misinformation in the boxing community. Its all propagandist calculation. They are not the only russian organisation to try and push identity politics, hatred, misinformation and even antidemocratical views with various ways, its actually scary how much people eat these lies up as long as they fit their prejudice. I am saddenend to see my fellow martial artists fall into this trap and believing their lies. In 2019 the IOC already stated, how the IBA's officials, judges and financial situation is dubious, so why would their thatre last year be taken serious? Both women are good fighters and were beaten by other female fighters before, anyone who believes this cr*p wants to believe it to push their personal agenda. Both the defeated opponents in the quarter finals are an embarassment for martial artists, using this dumb rhetorik to gain fame and excuse their loss. Sadly in boxing you only make money if you are famous, so if there is an explosive topic to use for your own career, most fighters will chose the immoral path and create drama (even if they know its bs) just to get their name out there😢
@@georgemartin4354And did you have the decency to question such tests? What tests are these?
Rafael Dos Anjos does NOT know what he's talking about lol. He thinks Imane is just an outsider that just came in the olympics like that ? She made her debut in 2018 after 5 years of intensive training and in a country when it's socially rejected that a women can be a boxer. She wasn't always at the top but gradually make it, like all athletes after training and experience.
He
Do you really cheer for HIM??? You sick bastard.
Imane has XY chromosomes and male muscles, it is NOT okay to have her fighting other women.
It sucks for her, but we can't just throw all the women under the bus just to cater to her personal needs.
Male's have DOUBLE the upper body strength of women, it's an incredibly large advantage. The type of muscle is also different. It more suited to fast high impact movement vs the weaker but more regenerative female muscle type.
@@MrSirFluffy Imane was not born male
@@Mpcmpc3245STOP IT! HE'S A DUDE!!! A MAN!!!
Is being a stronge women is wrong this days?? We're talkig about boxing not balie
Being a mediocre man beating strong women is pretty much unacceptable around the globe ... Until recently that is.
@@faytleingod1851 ameni isWOMAN
@@Ppjjccgg xy chromes don't care how someone feels, dresses or acts like. Gender female. Sex male.
@@Ppjjccgg it's spelled I-MAN-e. I can't write the two letters that come after W without getting censored 😆 yt on a power trip with this one.
If my cat was born with dogs. Raised like a dog ,Dresses like a dog acts like a dog, is it a canine or a feline?
@@faytleingod1851we should check her birth certificate and the law in algeria regarding trans rights
The fact that both boxer in the semifinals said it all...
Khelif's boxing record
Khelif is 37-9 with five knockouts at the amateur level. Khelif hasn't lost since May 2022 against Broadhurst. The 2023 World Championship matches were ruled no contests.So 9 women won over a man boxer? Wow ahahah and the 37 women who lost against her never complained she was a man mhhh strange.u guys are hilarious ahahah
She's not a man 🤡
@@Den7711 exactly 💯
@@Den7711 those who didn't complaint were foolish and idiot..they were fooled by putting their mind that this transgender is female.. simple as that.
ja,weil der penner ist nicht so gut wie wielen Frauen,der sollte sich schämen das er hat 9 kämpfe werloren.
How do you "change your sex" in Algeria tho ?
It's not amerika, you go to jail if you look too gay here.
Carini is just taking a page out of the Italian national football team. If you're losing take a dive and cry about it.
No need to anti-italian bias. She apologised to Khelif later.
Such a typical Italian warrior...and a cop too...wonder how many people she's framed.
Carini was a big shame for what she said and did to Imane. Carini did not apologize for her mistake, but just smiling and greeting Imane after the shameful match that she did in front of the entire world. If you are very sorry for your actions, you cry, not smile. She just giustified her bad and shameful behaviour , as nothing happened
@@celestesmith6060Yes, right, Im Italian, but this is the reality
@@mizofanNop, she did not, just smiling in front of the camera tellling empty words
Its always good to have an irish person around. Lol. The irish are just amazing fighters. Lol. Always. Men and women
The Welsh, with smaller population, have had a great boxing record too.
Thats what I thought also, if any woman could beat a man in a fight, it would be an Irish woman. lol The Irish don't fight to live they fight to die, that's why they win.
Explain
Who said Iman has male chromosomes?
Did you conduct a test to confirm this?
The problem is that the world can't accept a real female champion from the Arab region. Iman competed in the previous Olympics, and no one raised any concerns about her.
I want to point out the high level of hypocrisy in the Western world. Resorting to insults won't solve anything.
Just respect Iman's hard work and her potential.
IBA confirmed it yesterday! they clearly said he failed the 'gender identity test' in 2022 and 2023 hence he is banned to play world championships but this Paris Olympics is promoting lady boys since day 1, so obviously he is allowed to play
@@adarshminj2543 If you trust what the IBA puts out, you're a special kind of stupid.
You could do a simple search YOURSELF. She's been excluded previously because she has XY chromosomes. It's common knowledge... If you just looked it up instead of making such a fool of yourself.
Algeria is not arab. Bruhh it's north african amazigh country. They are not arabs. Arabs couldn't even understand algerians.
With all due respect, your approach is quite amusing. Your classifications seem designed to provoke arguments and shift the discussion away from Iman to something entirely irrelevant.
Try this tactic on someone else's comment, but not with me.
Regards.
Angela carini literally said that she hopes that imane khelif will win… she said that she retreated because of herself not because of imane, and she didn’t say hi to her because she was out of it and if she saw her after she would have hugger her
It would be too expensive to have a dna test and end the controversy?
Yeah. I just posted that as well. I feel a DNA test would put this all to rest.
@@silversadie9342For who she must do a DNA test? For all the haters? She isn't a trans woman. She has DSD, a medical condition.
A simple gynecology exam as it was before. The gynecologist can see it in couple of seconds. But it is man. It is obvious.
@@annexe4202 Thats extremely degrading!!! You want us to go back to the past nor forward to the future.
@@rivir its degrading to women having them go up against people that aren’t women. You people are degrading our society.
It makes me want to break into song, "For she's a jolly good fellow, for she's a jolly good fellow"!
🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿♥️ ايمان خليف❤
Just because the Italian boxer couldn't take the hard punch she quits the fight . 😂
It's honestly hard to discern the truth here. We are all being fed bits and pieces of information and biases are showing.
Someone knows the absolute truth though.
I personally don't know what the truth is. I have no ill will against Imane and no skin in the game. All I know is sometimes I see certain angles of head shots and think Imane is possibly female but most shots I see of Imane's body structure, stance, facial structures looks clearly male.
So, I don't know. Somehow I feel a DNA test would resolve all this. Saying someone has "identified" a certain way since birth and was raised that way isn't enough.
I was getting annoyed by this blowing up my feed for some reason so I went to watch the full match (google it). Everyone made it sound like Carini was getting brutalized fighting an opponent with overwhelming strength, when it reality it was just 2-3 south paw JABS, the "fight" was over. She wasn't knocked out, bleeding or even looking dizzy and yet she just randomly decided to walk to her corner and give up.
From what I've gathered so far is that Khelif is just a woman with some masculine features and that Carini is a pussy. I don't know why this has suddenly blown up, I wish I could get back the last 15 minutes I spent trying to find the fight online.
She could be intersex...
They did two tests that definitely prove xy chromosomes. However this really shouldn't be news to emani as there were testosterone tests and gender tests previously failed at. But I mean, gotta feel bad for the guy either way. Caught up in a huge controversy and he really just thought he was a big strong woman his whole life. I can't imagine something so radical like that happening to me in my life.
@@faytleingod1851it’s a woman. Her passport states that SHE is. Women can be born with higher than standard testosterone levels. It’s not new! But u can’t decide that just bcus she’s naturally born that way that she’s a man. U guys r acting like a lot of Olympic athletes aren’t genetically gifted. This is no different. Her PASSPORT states she’s a woman, even trans people have their biological sex but that wouldn’t be possible bcus Algeria doesn’t allow people to be trans. Stop spreading misinformation
They do not say she « identifies » she is a female born and raised a female you know what a birth certificate is don’t you ? She has a birth certificate that indicates she was born female. There is not such a thing as transwomen in Algeria my parents are from there it’s a Muslim country no doc would ever allow a gender change or even taking hormones to become a male that’s not a thing there !! And it’s the biggest joke to think that Algérie would present a trans athlete for the Olympics 😂😂That being said having high level of testosterone have nothing to do with your gender, she has hyperandrogenism which is a well known disease ( hormonal imbalance ) it’s like saying a guy who has low testosterone or high œstrogens is a female it’s just insane. The IBA is corrupted and can’t be trusted anyway that’s why they are not recognized by the Olympics instances.
Males vs Males, Females vs Females, trans vs trans. Just have 3 categories. it's really that simple.
She's a woman
Wondering why they haven't come up with this simple idea yet.
I don’t know about trans vs trans. Lmao Theres only 2 genders. So you’re saying a man trying to look like a woman should be able to fight a woman that thinks she’s a man till she feels the power? Lol
It has been tried in other competitions. The trans refused or didn't show up in another instance.
@@apexvulture5415
She's q biological woman
She's hyper androgenic that's all
The XY rumours started just because of the incompetence of western media mess !
We won💪🇩🇿&🧑✈️👶🇹🇭👀😎
I'm sorry my babies
She's algerien women soo...😂
Of course an irish lassie ended this circus
Just what I was thinking. Well done to her
@@lorenzomuhammad1715 Explain why you just called that IT a "her."
@@lives44intheham what?
I hope she sue you guys for misleading information!!
Too poor and too dumb to
@@jennahnoor8790 I
Hope so
I felt helpless for her
Poor girl
@@jennahnoor8790 good luck with that 😂 . Fat chance , dude. He can't sue nobody.
@@July-A7she is a female, cry about it racist bop
Why she has the body of a man. When she trains she does so with male genetics. If this is allowed than everyone else should be able to take testosterone when competing.
No one is getting sued, but the young lady is owed several public apologies.
In this climate, where "enlightened" people support a biological male competing against females, the initial outrage is understandable.
Now, the woman has some advantages that are similar to those of a trans athlete. However, the difference is that her physical advantages are likely due to a rare medical condition, making them natural. The results may be similar, but this is NOT the case of a man changing his gender and beating up on women.
Ban him for life you'll crazy out this how ish go all the way left
Ban all of them trying to compete against women. That's a dude. Give me a break just like Michael Obama please wake up yoos
Dude you are talking like he/she didn't have xy chromosomes
@@morph3301 There's only one organization saying that and their credibility is shaky. To say nothing of the fact that there are people whose sex chromosomes are different from their genitalia.
Rafael Dos Anjos has brain damage.
not only one ahahahahahahha
I'd call that common sense
Khabib gave him that brain damage
And its crazy he still speaks truth
Still smarter than u😂
Imane is a super woman💪 ❤ all respect
🤣🤣🤣
*man
Iman video where she cries about the allegations really broke my heart
She's a good girl and she thanked God for what happened to her anyway in the media
Why is that cry baby could be Italy's representation? Are no other women boxer from italy that more deserving? Angle carini just gives up. The hell!?
She took a hard hit early and couldn't recover her composure. Lot's of K.O.'s and T.K.O.'s start with one solid hit. It's a shame but if she felt she couldn't recover it was the right call to end the fight early, assuming the fight doctor and ref weren't close to calling the match already.
There is another italian boxer.I have seen their fight.dont know if it was qualifying rounds for a big tournament.Khelife beat her fair and square and that boxer didnt complain about anything.She lost and that was it!
It is not just about winning or losing. When Khelif lost to the Italian boxer back in 2020 no one complained not because Khelif lost but because Khelif’s genetic make up was not known at the time
There is a reason why women and men compete separately. World records in physical sports show the difference between the two sexes. If Imane K. were to reach his potential, he would become dominant in women's boxing. Imagine what would happen if M. Tyson started in the women's category, female boxers would have no chance. Imane has XY chromosomes, so he is male, so he should not compete in women's sports.
Khelif born and raised female, has fought for many years, has lost 9 times to women, is not a male trans. Not at all the same as Tyson being allowed to fight v women.
@@mizofan Can he give birth? No! So he's a man... so he has nothing to do with women.
The point is not whether a woman can defeat a man (which is of course possible), but the law of large numbers, that shows the boundaries between the two sexes. So a man's physique, his bone structure is harder, for example, so they can cause more serious injuries to women (domestic violence are not coincidentally more typical from men to women), I could go on, but the point is that you have to be informed about biology, because then you can't be misled, because unfortunately some people do it on purpose to cause division, they do this directly, to cause division and use the misled layer, because of your kind (layer), "they" are in power and "thanks" to this there are wars too - everything is connected, so it is that the hand of the struggle caused by division reaches everywhere.
The reason the female boxer gave up the fight is because any sane woman knows, minimum feels, that it is not an equal fight, so she has been dragged into a fearful, somewhat unfamiliar situation, and she is right, not the other side, because there is really no second side, there is only one truth, one final-conclusions. Think about it, these people would be ranked hundred something among men, and then they move to women and they're in the top 10. That should convince you, but if you still need help to distinguish between right and wrong, I'm here for you.
@mizofan females have the xx chromosomes you know.
Xy chromosomes is male.
Also losing 9 fights is a stupid point. Just because you lost a few times is no reason to fight in a class where you have unfair advantages
Its not stupid point. Skilled male fighter would never lose against woman. Never
Carini has apologised. Khelif was born and raised a girl. She is not male to female trans. There is however a female to male trans fighting v women in this Olympics, but there's no great outrage or misandry over any unfair advantage
They say she lost 9 times but WON 42 FIGHTS AGAINST WOMEN LOL😂😂😂
You know how records works especially for high tier athletes Manlet
@@arsnetwork5626they dont they have never seen female boxing category
HE
@@TJ-kk5zf SHE
She won in africa mainly boxing there isn't impressive
Attacking Khelif because she was born with higher XY chromosome count is like wanting to disqualify Lebrun James; Michael Jordan, Michael Phelps for being born with Atlético, height advantage and length in arms ‼️‼️‼️this girl is using what God have her but I still don’t see her going up agains Amanda Serrano or Kathy Taylor …
Go go girlllll
Iman kahlifi is a powerful woman
Who is she going to sue the whole Internet?🤦♀️
😂😂😂 she kicked joud butt!
BELAL GOING AT IT.
Imane Khelif was born women. She is a women from born and always was, there is a photo of her childhood. She just have naturaly XY chromosome.she is born with Swyer syndrome. She have XX with a XY as make up.
Lol She tested high for testosterone she very well could have been born female and is taking testosterone, which is still CHEATING in a competitive women's sport where the rest can't use testosterone. Doesn't matter the reason she's taking it or why her levels are high. She clearly isn't taking estrogen to try and level it out. She knows it gives her an advantage. She is KNOWINGLY CHEATING.
Swayer people don't produce sex hormones, and they say this person was at some point tested with high testosterone. Explain it. If they don't produce sex hormones, then how testosterone got into Imane's body? And if Imane is a woman with Swayer, then why on Earth to inject testosterone, not estrogen?
Look at Simone Biles funny physical shape.
I think it is a result of growth inhibiting drugs used by gymnasts previously.
Usually, the best age for gymnasts are below 21 as they are still not adult and have the best shape.
Some gymnasts wants to maintain the baby physique.
Look at their upper torso.
They are super muscular.
The bottom half looks like pre puberty .
Nowadays I don’t watch gymnastics as I can’t stand the funny physique of a lot of the gymnast.
Look at Nadia Commanice. TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
Woman: Adult human female with XX chromosomes
It doesn't mention the "XX chromosomes" in google. WOKE GOOGLE
can have xy chromosomes too it's rare 1 in million condition
Girls with Swyer syndrome have an XY chromosomal makeup (as boys normally do) instead of an XX chromosomal makeup (as girls normally do). Despite having the XY chromosomal makeup, girls with Swyer syndrome look female and have functional female genitalia and structures including a vagina, uterus and fallopian tubes.
The XX bit needs to be specified as the "Female *Typical* " as there are Females who have only one X chromosome, and sometime they have XXX, other times they have XXY, and even as XY.
All of these are known Karyotype syndromes.
Intersex exists and it doesn’t invalidate their womanhood neither does being trans. Biology is NOT black and white and that’s what makes it beautiful
0:24 not true
in the final of the Olympic boxing among women, two men will compete 🤣🤣🤣
And in this corner, representing women's strength around the world we have the bearded lady, Greg. And in the blue corner coming in at 210 with a 9inch **** Robert.
Alright ladies, I wanna clean right. No nut punches 😂😂😂
I wish! How convenient they both are in different weight categories
Equal rights equal lefts
Here's a suggestion: transgender should have their own category and intersex competitions should be voluntary. Four categories in all.
she's not transgendered
She is not trans though.
She’s not trans 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
She’s not transgender, has Disorders of sex development (DSD)
She is not transgender, did you even pay attention to the video?
Doesn't change the fact that he was born XY.
I feel.confused.... on one hand the world feels bad for the italian boxer and on the other we are striving for equality between men and women.....but apparently women cannot defeat anyone even close to being a man..i feel defeated😢
That italian boxer also put out the victim card in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics by declaring defeat against Turkish boxer.
Yeah man she is intersex 😂 and her old photo when she is a girl say that she is born in femal body and the thing of trans it's not something illegal in Algeria so
The men have enough. We need to stand to keep women sports for only women, not wanna be women . We have to go through enough already. I can't believe women are allowing this . I'm sick of men pretending to be a woman. I'm not pretending for anyone, and I don't care if they cry all day over my comment . They need to grow up already.
@@ethos9403 and the Italian is a cop too, which makes this loss even more embarrassing.
This is what women fought for, ERA hard at work, brought to you by women who could only see as far as their out stretched fingers, like that knock out punch, they never saw it coming!
Carini should fight Amineva for the Lamest Loser Championship
Thats a man biology is truth
"She" IS NUMBER TWO OF THE WORLD! stop saying she was beaten before that is ridicoluss, is she born with XY or XX... please give me the answer, can she have babys, has she a normal uterus and how normal are her testostern levels...jer blood test sayed she is a man but... when you answer this questions you've got your idear why people so confiused about this! I hop all the good for her but this is a thing of principals and not a personal story! Pace
He was only beaten by those females because he let them win. I don't beleive for one moment he gave his full power in the fights he so called "lost". You gotta sell your "product" and make people beleive youve miraculously changed your chromosomes, so you cant win all the fights, but he totaly could win them all if he wanted too. That's a fact!
123 viva l’Algérie
This could be true, or he may have actually lost because he is a subpar male boxer going against top of their game female boxers. It doesn’t matter though. It’s still wrong.
I suspect he only "lost" fights that he knew wouldn't prevent him from going to the Olympics and so as to ensure they wouldn't disallow him for obvious reasons. And once he got there he magically becomes the new Muhammad Ali. I don't buy it one bit.
Don’t look now, but you’re exactly part of the problem. Haven’t y’all noticed that every time women beat men in sports it ends up with accusing men of not giving it their all, implying that the women didn’t earn their victories? Y’all treat female athletes like kids who believe in Santa Claus by underestimating and infantilizing them and then you blame it all on trans athletes for y’all’s perception of reality when discussing female athletes!
@@mrterrentialthen why did she then go on to lose in the 2020 Olympics??
What a shame getting kicked by woman 😅😅😅
If that's not a man, i don't know what is anymore
🙄🙄 you people don't want to accept that not all women fit into the perfect little (emphasis on little) box of what's considered "feminine."
@@heathersnumber1fan xy 🤣
@@arondebreceni9464 born and raised as a girl, maybe an unusual condition, but certainly not male to female trans. Doesn't deserve all this hatred. Listen to an interview of her.
I think this issue is more about transphobia than race. Still bigotry, just for a different reason.
Why areso many referring to her childhood Pictures. Does puberty hit in this age especially when you have a rare conditione as woman? Where are Pictures from his/ her Teenage years??? That would be more interesting
Exactly
Are you stupid?
Imane Khelif Was born a man, but was brought up as a girl.
There was no condition that caused anything. Actually it's not fair for XX to compete with XY. Because scientifically proven XY(BORN MALE) are physically stronger than XX ( BORN FEMALE). I don't care if you are want to be a woman but please don't go fighting XX for the little competition we worked so hard for.
She is not male to female trans though as many have claimed, was born and raised a girl- she may have a rare syndrome or condition, but she does not deserve all the venomous hatred
Imane was born with testicles inside his body, went through male puberty and has now a man’s body.
Please send me source.... My friend is driving me crazy
@@truelies5431 5-AR deficiency (5-ARD) is the only DSD that really fits and that means biological male
@@truelies5431 Source is the Russia governed World Boxing Championship saying she failed gender qualification tests _after_ Imane beat one of their fighters during her second season attendance.
Why didn't they reject her during the first season or prior to this fight? We Don't know.
What were the exact results of the tests? They refuse to provide any details...
That's all the sources for now.
This female boxer should not have been fighting with Iman in the first place.
Imane is a woman and Carini has a history of making excuses and diving in fights. Look at her Tokyo 2022 fight for yourself
@shadelljamison5507
XY chromosomes makes you a man not a woman. Just thought maybe you should know 😅 I know it can get confusing sometimes.
@@faytleingod1851Funny how the IBA who claimed she had XY chromosomes was BANNED in 2019 due to corruption and incompetence. Isn’t that crazy! That the misinformation you r spreading comes from a BANNED source and banned for a very good reason. But sure keep pushing that narrative
@@danielsedin6663 You are Lying, the old president was found to be dealing heroin and he was replaced in 2019. Just accept it. Imane is not a woman and has male DNA. Just accept it.
@@faytleingod1851
So, intenet doctor, what you are saying is that all the men with XX chromosomes should be in women's sports, right?
Lost to 9 women but turns it on to win Olympic Gold comfortably.
..and? Michelle Kwan won five world championships but couldn't win the gold at the Olympics. It's not easy to win a gold medal against the best athletes in the world and if you slip up the competition will pounce on your mistakes. Khelif has a good record, a great record to me, she's just not undefeated.
@@TheSkyheart5 It was a ruse, and you were taken for the ride.
@@jimmelton5846 Sure, this was all a conspiracy by her family and the Algerian government to alter all of Khelif's records so that they could legally pass off a boy as a girl, on the off chance they would become an Olympic caliber athlete so they could win easy medals.
Rafael Dos Nachos
I mean, the dude/girl has a huge advantage. The people that say that a trans should be able to compete into the gender that they identify would have an argument if it were two sided. The ONLY people competing cross gender are the men to women, giving them an advantage. They only want to argue when it gives them an advantage. How many trans women to men competing in boxing? That would be ZERO!!!
She's not trans
Politics is now everywhere. That is crazy😂 Dangerous world we live in.
Carini needs to take up knitting
This is the root problem of this issue, if women don’t stand for women’s right what do you expect. This guy took a medal of another woman and because she beat him she is ok with it.
They’re both biologically born females, one just has a genetic disorder where there body produces more testosterone
But Imane Khelif was born women. She is a women from born and always was, there is a photo of her childhood. She just have naturaly XY chromosome.she is born with Swyer syndrome. She have XX with a XY as make up.
@@Prototype-wl8exmake a sperate category
@@Whereareyounow12 Why?
Do you know how many women are born with naturally elevated testosterone?
Athletes are ALL different from each other on a biological level. For example, Michael Phelps has slightly different biology compared to other swimmers, which has lead to his body being built for swimming. It's one of the reasons, other than rigorous training, that has propelled him to win multiple gold medals. However, the way he is naturally built has given him advantage over other swimmers, which has helped lead to his unparalleled dominance in the sport.
How would you effectively group all of the people who have slight deviations in their biology, and how do you determine what counts as a significant enough deviation? The way sports naturally are, unfortunately, is unfair. Taller players will almost always do better in basketball than people who are shorter. People with slightly longer arms have an advantage over opponents in combat sports. There's always a level of natural unfairness to sports, which is why what really matters isn't your slight biological advantages, but your prowess in said sport.
So why should a biological woman be pushed into a separate category, because of her naturally occurring testosterone levels?
@@ouzqbe7025 fact is she has XY chromosomes which no matter if she was born a female… biologically she is at male level strength, endurance, ect. Her testosterone is way too high for almost all other females to even have a chance. It’s the same if she were to have been forced to fight a biological man.
These sports need to ban real males from competing against *real* women. Including limiting testosterone levels like the league’s outside of the olympics do.
But because so much of the world government is infested with extreme left liberal garbage… they claim it’s insensitive to those people instead of looking out for the safety and fairness of actual women. 🤷🏻
Every average man can Play the Top 100 in woman Sport After 5 years Training. And if you have a more than average man like lea Thomas Who was top 500 in man swimming....woman has no chance. If the few few transgenders Who focus not only the own body and start to train they will all end up like khelif. It is nothing against her, is not "her" fault. But i Think it is still not fair against the biological woman. But there will come mens along Who will try to use it only because of fast money.
Who knows what here reasons are.
Mfg
Khelif is not male to female trans, but there is a female to male trans fighting v women in these Olympics
@@mizofan
Ah ok....didnt know that.
Thx have a nice day.
Mfg
It nothing controversial if the boxer is western boxer right?
she's only trans when she wins 😅😅
It sad she can’t be normal but facts are facts she shouldn’t be fighting in women it’s not her fault she was born like that either but that’s not right
Imane is smart enough to hold back his strength when he has to..he can't show his real power to every opponent because it will be too obvious so he has to act weak and deliberately lose
She’s a woman just stop
J.k rowling, Elon musk, Donald Trump, Logan Paul even Joe Rogan a guy that I really respect were all hating and they owe her an apology
Edit: the Italian boxer who started all of this wants to apologize now
I love JK Rowling ❤👸
I don’t get why there’s not many millionaires women standing for women and what’s right base on sex!!!
BOTH Imane Khelif and Lin Yu Ting were tested twice and found by the IBA (International Boxing Association) to have XY chromosomes, which are ONLY present in men NOT women. Endocrinologists also confirm the same things.
The IOC chose to ignore the tests and instead go by what’s on their passports, which nowadays, people can change their gender on IDs, so that means nothing.
Imane more than likely has DSD, which is very rare and when he was born, it’s very likely he appeared to be female, but at some point in his adolescence, it became more evident he was male. He’s never had a period in his life, and if he were really a Muslim woman and not a man, he also wouldn’t be shown in pictures spread eagle on his coach’s shoulders, which would be forbidden and seen as inappropriate, and he’s also seen working out in men’s shorts and t-shirts and with no hijab, and most Muslim women would be more covered and wearing a hijab even when working out.
Obviously, by now, Khelif and his father are aware of the circumstances and are trying to save face because they don’t want to face the wrath of their own country and other consequences.
Many female boxers who have fought and/or sparred with Khelif have been very concerned and observed the differences in Khelif’s stance and fighting style and power, which is that of a man’s.
I’m pretty sure with him trying to sue, he will be forced to take a cheek swab or blood test to prove he’s a woman, or his medical results from the IBA will be released.
¿Quién se cree para juzgar a otro ser humano así?
1. La atleta argelina Hassiba Boulmerka ganó la medalla de oro en los JJOO de Barcelona en 1992, nunca usó hijab (NO ES OBLIGATORIO, es opcional), la llegaron a amenazar de muerte por usar poca ropa... Y 32 años más tarde viene usted a realizar la misma condena. Deje que cada cual se exprese como desee, usted reprima sus sentimientos usted use un hábito.. pero NO juzgue a otros
Usted abrió esta cuenta en verano 2024, usa el anonimato para la calumnia y la difamación...
¿En su familia ninguna mujer tuvo acné quistes en los ovarios vello corporal?😂esas mujeres sí que son raras xD
The real female boxers and a real coach should boycott the games.
OVER WHAT! a bioligical female that looks manly? she lost 9 fights she's not a man! and I am ALGERIAN we don't have trans it's illegal!
She is a real woman
To everyone who thinks Imane is a man. DISRESPECTFULLY STHP and let us enjoy HER win
Rafael Dos Nachos took steroids 💉
Its he, not she.
Transperson belongs in trans/rainbow league. Don't care about the debate!
She's a woman
Lbtg 😅😅😅😅you want that but if a arab its not ok thats not fair.
Carini is just a cry baby, bye.
He has beaten because he isnt a good athlete.he just plays with more strength this is his advantage.bur real women champion will win him
Anyway all this is unfair
She is a real woman
He still looks like ah guy to me 🤪
i skimmed through their fight and Khelif really just sucks. Amy showed more skill and Khelif couldn't even win a singular round against her.
They both sucked if we being honest
Imane Khelif will win gold.Hes a great boxer .
Him, not her.
Her, not him
@@AdrianaFraga977 The genetics say differently.
@@AdrianaFraga977 IBA confirmed that it was a dude, a complete bufone, a cheater, an evil man that beats women for no reason, a clown, a cheater, etc.
@craigprNah buddy she xxy adarelli322
@@WisconsininTexasno they don’t
Its...a dude
Pronounced facial features. Thick eyebrows. Square jaw. Narrow hips. Big feet. Wide shoulders. Tall. Flat chest. Wide neck. Proportionaly big latisimus dorsi, pectorali major, deltoid muscles. Overall male apearence.
I don't know, Rick.
Ever heard of intersex ? Chromosomes and hormones don’t always come in neat little packages. As someone who was born with different kinds of genetic disorders and variations , I can assure you; they exist.
@@ona_tzari don't want to be mean domt get me wrong please but do you identify as male or female?
@@lukasnagel4492 For the sake of getting you to research that a bit more, I won’t answer that, as intersex challenges us to examine that not everything is as finite in a box- there are animals that have a combination of both .
@@ona_tzar thank you 👍🏻
Whole lot of misinformation here!
It's not a man lol smdh
It is a man. Unless you don't believe in science, then I guess it's whatever you want to call it. Must be sweet living in la la land.
@iSupplanter well she was born with a 🐱 so what do you call her
@@iSupplanteryou clearly don’t believe in research.
XY chromosomes male can't be changed to XX woman
@@KINGPENEYEBALLcan she be pregnant with xy chromosome?
99% in this comment section dont understand the advantage in boxing when you have a ''man'' chromosone.
Its not swimming, its boxing... its about the safety of a woman. Obv she already lost a couple fights. An olympic boxer could beat any man boxer who cannot qualify for the olympic games.
99% of people had no idea what combat sports were and are just woke zealots rushing to talk about something they have no idea about that's why. Having much higher testosterone levels than the competition in a combat sport is almost life threatening to the opposition with normal testosterone levels. Hell, everyone knows Yoel Romero is an absolute freak of nature too. But he's never been popped for steroids in a sport where you take tests constantly. Maybe he's cheating enough to get some benefit but not enough to get popped. But that's not the point. The point is that people bend over backwards to get much higher testosterone levels for training in combat sports because it gives you an absolutely clear advantage of recovering much faster so you can push your body well beyond your limit and feel like you're not even at your limit. That's the difference. With the difference in test, Iman could easily train 5 times harder than Angela without feeling absolutely demolished. And somehow that's not cheating in a sport where people give each other brain damage?
@@Inaluogh thank you my brother
99%? You obviously don't understand percentages. She has lost a lot more than a couple of fights.
@@mizofan 54 fights and 9 loses. Thats a couple :-)
She didn't beat him, thay just let her win at points if she goes again against him he will smash her face in a few seconds
You have worms in your brain
*Her
@@ninjadanoite1560*him
123 viva Algeria 🇩🇿 Imane you are our Algerian woman representative at the highest level...keep going...Carini is a bad loser....you are our champion❤123 viva Algeria God bless you...❤❤❤
at least Carini has apologised
Yes it is good that she apologised. That is the best attitude to have really but she damaged somehow imane khelif reputation....anyway hopefully things will be sorted for everyone 😀
I feel sorry for Imane khelif she comes from a poor background et her voice is a woman voice...
Imane Khelif is a man.
You slept with her?
@@aminebeghidja6153 No but you did , u ai generated fuck
The fact that she was beaten before says NOTHING about this subject. I'm a 1,94 man and i bet every woman in that competition would beat the shit out of me. That means i'm allowed to compete in female events?
She participated under IBA like 7 times for seven years and she only got disqualified when she defeated the Russian boxer and won 1st place in 2023?? Like whaaat? I mean she was a woman all those 7 years and when she finally won something she became a man?? 😅
@@truelies5431
She was in 2020 Olympics
@@truelies5431
She was in 2020 Olympics
@@ilyasmahmod7403 she has no issues with Olympics committee... It's the IBA that are acting suspiciously
He let them win to keep competing.
There's no other explanation that makes alot of sense
So all of her loses of been because she let them win to keep competing?
What’s the point in competing then if you’re going to let someone beat you in say an Olympic 1/4 final?
You have a rat brain bro
@@BradLawley-l4j don’t do that, bro. Don’t discredit the women who won against Imane. They earned their victories.
@@T-Raw01 there’s one: women are actually good at sports and can beat men.
The italian boxer is a gimmick, really bad actor. But tell me why Khelif choose boxe and we have the story as full. Without that genetic freak he/she never goes in to high lvl.
wow YOU PEOPLE ARE SICK TALKING BAD ABOUT THIS WOMAN
The hints in the name.
It's an Arabic name means faith that's what the world Lost!
@@benzidane 🪄
Oh I got it, you're an atheist, do you feel cool yet?!!!
Oh I got it you're an ⚛️ do you feel cool yet?!
I'll pray for you!
Yt keeps removing my replies.
@benzidane I'm made up of ⚛️ just like you are. Awesome, make sure and don't skin your knees while you're at it! 😉
Your strength levels are measured by the testosterone levels. You can make them go down for the test and you can make them goes up for the fight. The questio is... How much time between the test and the fight!
Why the hell would she want to increase it? smh
What that made Clarissa Shields or Ann Wolf ?
Are you dumb? You just read that testosterone level measures strength and you are asking why would a boxer want to increase it?
She passed olympics testorone tests which were put in last olympics
How do you do that ?
All these people are questionable
She has xy chromosomes therefore not female
You say that after how much recherche?
Being an XY fighter and not being very good doesn’t make it ok to compete in the female category. That logic is poor. She has clearly been hit in the head too many times.
been born with a vag and developing boobs makes it okay to compete in the female category or can't you define woman?
just for laugh.if angela apologized to imame khelifh for geting beaten by him & her it shows angelas brain is damaged this is a new model racing car with double dual engine turbo 1 in front & 1 in rear incase of accidents dud can use rear engine door to escape
Can Mike Tyson please identify as a welter weight female against Khelif🙏 Pretty please🙏
Mike Tyson supports Islam and is totally against TRANS and LGBTQ because Islam totally prohibited LGBTQ like no other religion ! Khelif is from RURAL ALGERIA where it is predominantly Muslim ! And she was biologically born with VAGINA & WOMB too ( FACT ) !!
u make me feel smart
- Polisario man beating a woman with Algerian paspoort -