Undertale Yellow: What if you could go to Asgore on a Neutral Route? (Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Undertale Yellow is a great game, but another thing that annoyed me was the fact that it's set up both in Undertale and in Yellow itself that Asgore will be some great final boss, and yet you only even see him on two of the four routes, and only "fight" him on one, and it's more of a glorified cutscene. I felt like there was much more potential for the ending of this game, showing Asgore's development into what he would be in UNDERTALE. This animation aims to rectify that.
As you can imagine, this is definitely imperfect, and Undertale Yellow has some glaring continuity errors that make it really difficult to reconcile with the events of undertale, but I tried to make it as canon compliant as possible to both of the stories.
Undertale Yellow by MasterSwordRemix and the UTY Team
Undertale by Toby Fox
Flowey talk sprites by Toby Fox
Thumbnail by Robr0
Flowey velvet rope lift sprites & animation by Robr0
UG Apartments interior & NPCs by the UTY Team
Guardpost and expanded family photocard by Robr0, edited from Toby Fox
All other sprites by Toby Fox
Core by Toby Fox
echoes of another by Figburn
aka "What If the elevator was still broken"
"What If the CORE was open"
"What If Clover was able to reach Asgore on Neutral"
"What If you could go to New Home"
I'll probably make another bonus video with all of the extra interactions and flowey dialogue, but that won't be for a while. This video was already rushed to get it out early. Don't expect the weekly uploads to be a normal thing. Part 2 is going to take longer, because animating fight sequences is difficult, and I really didn't like how Asgore was characterized in UTY, so I want to take extra care to get it right.
"How do you write like tomorrow won't arrive?"
9:29 You know, I think this would have been the first time UTY acknowledges the fact that the Dreemurr family had a human child. Without the context of baseline Undertale, I couldn’t imagine how massive of a reveal that would be.
Weird that Chara isn't once directly referenced.
Like their death's the catalyst to the whole game, the closest we get is Axis accidentally burning Asgore's flowerbed
Yknow, if we think of uty as its own standalone game, then this info could easily be missable, i feel like itd be a good idea if you still had to find the keys to open the path, and there was a key behind the family photo so that you cant miss out on the reveal. Althrough, itd be cool if the game also provided more info about chara, because it would feel too random to not elaborate on something so important, just change the "your power..." option to "the human in the photo..." and boom.
@@dylanzlol7293 I agree, but I feel like you could switch out "my soul" with "the human in the photo," mostly because imagining this as a standalone game, people would go crazy trying to figure out flowey's power.
@@itchysundude6733 yeah, i guess it could be made so that flowey accidentally implies that he's asriel, but with it being a vague implication.
@@dylanzlol7293 I mean, I don't think many people are gonna play UTY without playing UT
You know this made me realize, while clover knows that asgore killed the other children, clover never learns why.
The "why" is pretty complex, so i wouldnt be surprised if clover didnt fully know it.
Meanwhile, on a No Mercy run, Clover deliberately takes Asgore's soul to go back to the surface.
No mercy is different from genocide
@@DripBanana23
There is no Genocide run in Undertale or Undertale Yellow. Both are officially called No Mercy.
@@Idazmi7there is no determination soul in undertale. It is called the red soul canonically
I know the guy, he's Wing Gaster, the Royal Scientist.
he fell to his own creation
But he prob just fell in void not died
Im wing gaster the royal sci-AHHH
*Screams as Skrunkly the Chara pushes him over.*
The ex-royal scientist
Tbh, you should have been able to say no to Martlet and go to Asgore on all neutral runs after the first.
Fr or use elevator
I think even if you actually said "No" to Martlet after fighting Meta Flowey once, he's probably able to gauge that Clover wouldnt be able to beat Asgore under normal circumstances and instead just reset if Clover even tried to go to Asgore outside of Geno
@betabee1221
Genocide isn't the only ending you can go to asgore, if you kill ceroba at the end of pacifist then you get to fight asgore.
I agree. During my first Neutral Run, I really wanted to help Flowey and go to Asgore, but there’s sadly no way to do it. I just wanted to help my boy out. 😭
@@LightsaberDuelz Yeah, sucked that he complained about me not going to Asgore when like...dude i literally have no choice.
I can either go to Martlet or reset, nothing else can be done 😭
1:00 perfectly captured the style of UT's humor there
True
Didn't say anything about going UNDER....tale
same i thought you could go under but nope,flowey didnt help me.
it's also literal
feels like something Susie would do ngl
I was crying my eyes out when Flowey said
"Now go UNDER and let's continue our TALE"
A masterpiece in dialog.
Best part is if you hesitate, he says "What's the matter, getting YELLOW on me?"
This comment is so underrated
@@ColddirectorI favor the part where if you stop moving for 5 minutes, he says “It’s not like you’re coming down with some type of JAUNDICE. Come on!”
Martlet on the building, watching Clover talk to some random flower:
lol
Martlet: I guess I won't need to inject this...
She paid a *premium fee* and this is how you repay her?
7:44 i think its interesting that instead of expiration dates, its petrifaction dates, where the food turns to dust, because its made of magic like how monsters are
So desintegration dates
Explains the instant healing
It's "petrification", defined as something organic being turned to stone.
@@TinyDeskEngineer magic is probably organic
oogh,,, using "echoes of another" for new home was a really good choice,,,, and the parallel to the "you're going to be free" line from undertale hit me in the gut,,,,,,,,
personally i really like the neutral ending in undertale yellow but this is a pretty good alternative take!
Could be two options you could go to the rooftop and get the regular neutral ending or you could go to directly to Asgore and get this one
yea dude i love this track
"We're finally going to be free."
Goddamn, that line hits so can hard.
Especially given what flowey's actual plans are supposed to be.
@@dylanzlol7293 Maybe it could be different like Flowey shared his life with Clover and Flowey will change it last minute because he hasn't talk to someone like this since Chara. Like Flowey reveal to Clover he is Asriel and how become Flowey and Clover understand about Flowey's choices and Flowey suddenly get his feelings back. And this is how Flowey and Asriel became true friends (Knowing this isn't the cannon ending but it's a ending we wish we had).
@@chiefblox4000 I imagine, even if he did enjoy their time together, that wouldn’t be enough to dissuade him from his plan
"After all, once you reach the end of your journey, you'll probably never see them again" this hits even harder
I love how he activates the battle box, just like froggit
This is a good video, however I think there are a bit too many mentions or hints at W.D gaster. Realistically I don’t think Flowey would even have any reason to start mentioning the old royal scientist and that the core replacing the steamworks was enough.
The gaster follower is also a bit much because we don’t know if they’re naturally monochrome of if they became that way. Regardless everything else is really good!
You could assume that the gaster follower is just a fun event that COULD happen and that they might not appear on that place often.
You can assume they become monochrome after infodumping about gaster too much thanks to clam girl, actually! Since she actively becomes monochrome and disappears after referencing Deltarune. The game that literally opens to what is presumed to be gaster off the bat. So I’d reckon it’s a safe guess :)
@@south452 this is very much true, reinforcing my point!
Flowey has messed around the most with the underground this makes sense he would notice something watching from all around at all points
@@mazthehe people should see the face that flowey makes in the neutral ending of undertale when he says "you havent learned a thinf. in this world is kill or be killed"
spoiler, he makes a face that looks like mistery man
my only problem with undertale yellow was the limited routes because i felt like there should've been more choices to make
thats why I appreciate videos like this
Tbf there's only 1 route Clover can go down no matter the choice....death is their only future.
@@AscendedEmperorGenocide Route :
@@WhatjusthappenedfffuckNot really canon, since they have to be dead for the original undertale to happen
Uhm actually it can be canon, since Clover after killing asgore can just Reset and accept his destiny@@Spelo1
Clover initial destiny is to stay with Toriel but then Flowey step in and changed his path forever genocide show that it doesn't have to ended with him dying at the end
I wish this was a mod, we would have five routes if that was the case
"elevator mod" Lets you go to asgore on neutral ending. Yea, there's no core and new home, but better than nothing, right?
@@Koiishi_Komeiji true, but new home would be such an interesting idea to have
Five...
You know what else is five? The previous SOULs
@abdillahahmad7025 true
@@abdillahahmad7025patience for grinding out areas and fighting unfair bosses in geno, kindness for agreeing to martlet and letting her babysit you and dying anyway, bravery for killing Ceroba (what a bold move to abort your pacifist run after so much work), knowing that the cast will persevere and that monsterkind will push through and get free in true pacifist, integrity here for staying true to your mission and, you know, actually killing asgore, taking his soul and crossing the barrier and getting home and freeing the five.
Wait here is integrity and integrity is more mentioned than the other four humans, integrity juandice neutralnessans confirmed11!1!1!1!
I really wonder how Clover would react to Asgore's memories? Assuming they will see that when they are battling this time.
oh my god that sounds amazing, we might actually see how the war started
@@usermcskull4713 Clover after watching king lose both of his children in one night and then her wife dissapearing without a trace, while seeing him feel regret and guilty from killing other 5 humans (He wasn't anything like what Flowey described him)
@@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 Clover's still an empathetic person on neutral, they might just give their soul than and there
@@usermcskull4713 I'm not saying they weren't, just that Flowey painted Asgore as this cruel man who wants to murder humans.
@@usermcskull4713Considering how Clover can only do that after making strides in defeating their enemy (Martlet with the armor being destroyed, Ceroba with the mask being damaged), I'd imagine it would happen if Asgore got hurt similar to how Frisk did, with Flowey dealing the killing blow before Clover could spare him
Come to think, would be really cool if the core was actually randomized and had endgame versions of monsters youve fought before. Like instead of final froggit you have to beat ultra scroll, or sour corn or whatever.
what if Final Flier's in a boat lol
The endgame version Penilla could have like a drawing tablet, the endgame sweet candy corn enemy could be something like regular corn or popcorn. The endgame mirror guy could be like a magic mirror that does different attacks depending on your ammo (ex: flowey pellets would lead to flowey-like attacks)
True
The writing is very tight-knight and faithful to UT/UTY. Good job. And I love the "We're finally going to be free." It's very indicative of how long Flowey has spent trying to achieve this route.
Would've been funny if Clover crossed under the velvet rope like it was a game of limbo though.
True
But you gotta think of the animators
Marlett: I wonder when Clover’s arriving, oh well, probably soon :)
Sad
Then later some royal guard will tell her what clover decided to go asgore and asgore instantly killed him and got the soul which is makes martlet sad because she'd believe what if she could convince clover to not go asgore or at least be with him for the trying to convince the king to not kill clover
I love this so much!!! The way Flowey talks about Gaster is so great. Like, it definitely seems like the way Toby Fox would have done it if he were to do so. And the reference to the Holidays...
i dont like the gaster references from _flowey_ but i love everything else
I swear if sans undertale shows up-
cl0BER i remember yor juandice
Undertale Yellow Megalovania!! 1!1!1!1!1
Sans undertale didn't show up in geno, he wouldn't be here... we're safe..?
* Human... I remember your'er're... neutrals?
Don't worry, he hasn't even been invented yet
Flowey just straight up reflecting on that long ass hall before the Judment Hall 💀
last corridor*
As always lmao
The sad thing is: theres no sans undertale.
@@unchok_985 Ye,its never been named judgement hall to begin with,im not even sure who is first guy to name it that way XD
@@skell6134fr
This is really, really, REALLY good. Flowey is written perfectly, and although I feel like he perhaps pops out to talk to Clover a bit much, I just see that as him being a bit on edge and constantly talking to and checking on Clover to make sure things are indeed going on track. Goodness knows how long it's taken for him to get them here, after all!
The Gaster Follower was unexpected but funny nonetheless; I suppose its color palette does make it a good fit for New Home.
"echoes of another" was an AMAZING choice for the music of Asgore's house. Not only does it literally have the Home motif and all that, but considering the fact that it plays during the part where Flowey shows you how long he spent trying to make things work with Clover, it really drives home that after all this time, things are finally going Flowey's way. It also just really fits in general!
Oh, forgot to mention that the fact you made the CORE's inside look a bit different due to the shuffling was both expected but still very nice.
The chair being familiar was neat - I was a tiny bit confused initially and thought maybe it was alluding to the player or something before realizing that of course, Clover's seen the near-identical one in Toriel's home countless times; they just don't remember it.
CLOVER WHY DID YOU TAKE THE EGGNOG THAT WAS ASGORE'S-
I KNOW HE SAID YOU COULD HELP YOURSELF BUT THAT WAS FROM THE HOLIDAYS C'MON DUDE-
(That was a really neat way to reference them, by the way!)
The picture of Asgore, Toriel, Asriel, and Chara, actually being shown a la the interactable pictures in UTY was a really neat touch.
I physically jerked back when Flowey said "It's time to go". I'm going to assume that parallel to Pacifist was intentional, but even if it wasn't, it still hit me like a bullet all the same.
Of course there was the obligatory "You should be smiling, too" shoehorn. It worked well enough and still hit me decently, so there's that.
Looks like Asgore decided to take up poetry, too... at least partially.
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I myself was also not a very big fan of how Asgore was done in the original game. While I did absolutely adore my time with the project, it certainly was a bit of a disappointment to see what they'd done (and what they HADN'T done) to one of my absolute favorite characters. This is really neat and I'll definitely be looking forward to the next part whenever it's ready! Thanks for the somewhat closure, haha.
dialouge if clover checked the mirror:
just like always
its you
Flower named Flowey after the 5674th run finally goes differently
Good for him
"WE'RE finally going to be free."
90% of soulless flowers quit RIGHT BEFORE the human defeats Asgore
@@konbkob4156lmao
It's kinda funny how asgore would just let people walk around in his house... castle? And just take his food 💀💀💀
he needs to add a rope to the kitchen as well as to the door to the throne
3:21 This is the end of our UNDERTALE YELLOW
In the end
The true Undertale yellow is the friends we made along the way
@@You_are_genocides wow this truly was a neutral route
@@laukachu I get it now...
I was the UNDERTALE YELLOW NEUTRAL ROUTE all along
properly sized text in undertale fan work jumpscare
It's a neat idea to do this, since like you said in the description, asgore is set up a lot and you don't even fight him (well, there's the "fight" in the ending of flawed pacifist but that doesn't count) so it's neat to see how it would have been if Clover actually went to fight asgore
I assume the UTY team figured that it'd be too derivative of Undertale and they wanted UTY to be a new experience, which is why it shares none of the same enemies.
Besides Froggit (who's just one turn and doesn't fight) and Flowey (who has two battles that are very distinct from Omega Flowey)
@@usermcskull4713imo they made it TOO derivative tho, there are continuity errors, the boss battles underuse ACTing, and obviously Asgore was a big, BIG disappointment, especially in Genocide
God dang I wish this were a mod, not just an animation
Same
I'm wing gaster the royal scientist
So we,ve met again faker im the original ralsei
@@Ralsei21WHO SHOULD I TRUST😨
guys say something the real fluffy guy would
@@huyphoy1858 Fortnite.
@@huyphoy1858 huh, something the real fluffy guy would
Y'know, as much as I'd like this idea for a true pacifist (not flawed I know how that ends lol), It'd probably just end in a similar way to regular undertale yellow true pacifist. I'd imagine either clover learns why asgore's taking souls, or they'd realise asgore wouldn't be doing this without good reason, so they'd give their soul up to him, I think.
WAIT I CAN'T BELIEVE SOMEONE TOOK THE VIDEO SUGGESTIONS INTO ACCOUNT WHEN MAKING THE ENDING I AM SO SICK OF THEM BLOCKING STUFF THANK YOU
Would there be dialogue changes depending on the amount of lv or kills you have? Like, say, an aborted genocide run at steamworks or a merciless neutral run or a neutral run with lv 6 or etc.?
That would be cool I think that this would be a potential endgame alternative to the judgments. You kind of get on top of the apartment building normally with flower and Asgore taking
not just the writing but your choices of facial expressions were good as well. I can tell how you were trying to stay true to undertale yellow's flowey impression. while you wanted to emphasize that "you're going to be free." line, I didn't expect to see flowey's last word, that was a good parallel.
This feels like it's actually in the game, such good writing
so glad we're moving past the "nobody remembers who gaster was" thing since that was only fanon.
Wait, what? Isn't that what Goner Kid was implying in Undertale?
I dunno, why could Flowey mention and talk about him just fine, but when you put Gaster as your name the whole game restarts. As if there has been some kind of anomaly where the game's only solution is to reload where it hasn't happened yet. I feel like somebody name-dropping him outta the blue is going against canon
@@trekkinmain4974It's weird because of one big inconsistency, if he was completely forgotten by everyone then why did Asgore took so long to replace him? It's the one thing that always feels weird about him being forgotten
@@PixelPandas I don't remember the exact dialogue where that's said, but I feel like that could be explained by Asgore vaguely remembering him and that's affecting the way he acts. Gaster has fallen out of time and space but he could still be affecting the subconscious of those who knew him. I think Goner Kid mentions something like this as well.
I'm still inclined to think monsters struggle to remember his name.
They can recall that there was a Royal Scientist who preceded Alphys and built the CORE, but whenever they try to recall what his name was, they end up drawing a blank.
12:16 nice paralelism of toriel here
like mother, like son, right>
@@RalseiTheGoat yeah
... you cant just have a moment where Flowey lets us ask questions
add a question about Martlet's letter
AND NOT SHOW US WHAT IT IS!!!!! (in case it wasnt obvious- this is ment to be a joke)
Looks like we have TWO Undertale/Deltarune "What If" RUclipsrs: JQR and yourself.
And John Brain too)
They don't know him, he's Russian-speaking. However, there are also English subtitles
I thought they were the same person until seeing this comment
were can I find the new home theme In this video?
Echoes of another
@@nzmerk I realized that is was not a remix but UTY OST 101 about 10 seconds after I posted the original comment, thanks for helping though
@@gandalfthemagenta7364 oh ok, no problem
Gaster being referred here even not by name and an encounter with one of his followers is... extremely off-putting. I don't know why?
It would be really cool to see an AU where Clover goes the same route through the Underground as Frisk does in Undertale.
Peak
Lore of Undertale Yellow: What if you could go to Asgore on a Neutral Route? (Part 1) momentum 100
Idea: what if you lose to ceroba and flowey doesn't revive you.
She'd probably keep the soul and try to do something to fulfill Chujin's plan. That's all she'd have left to live for, at that point
This does make me think of what Flowey says if you die to the feisty five.
"Wow, I really wanted to stick out to see what the sheriff would do" or something, he also says how it didn't look like Martlet wanted to kill you.
You be fun to see some scenarios were Clover just died for a while
Good idea
She would fuse it with Kanako. beyond that point, you have a different story on your hands that I don't feel like writing :/ .
13:49 Lmao
absolute perfect 4th wall break
@flipflop_bell I didn't even realise
And I didn't know what people have said that he should not be helping clover
@@AldinRamic it's because of the theory that clover had the determination to reset and that flowey came to be after the 6 fallen humans
@@flipflop_bell oh yeah
That's right
I forgot about that
Imagine if Clover was at genocide route, he could had won against Asgore at LVL 19.
I think you could be correct maybe he couldn’t use the super big shot but considering what he did to axis it’s very possible he still could’ve beat Asgore
In flawed pacifist ending Asgore was going totally all-out against Clover plus this battle took place not too long after the fight with Ceroba meaning Clover was still worn-out however in neutral route he may put up more of a fight against the king of monsters and in genocide route clover would demolished asgore with ease
@@manufacturedfromabove79 true
i think its implied clover isnt as strong as frisk and still wouldn’t be able to beat him
@@Taffles-hh9cu I doubt so. Flowey does say Clover proved that she could beat Asgore a long time ago after the fight with Ceroba (LV12) in the No Mercy Route.
fighting omega flowey as clover would be hard
Flowely casually yapping half of the vid
He interrupts even more often than he did during the walk through New Home in Undertale's Genocide route.
Excellent use of echoes of another for New Home!
This is amazing and really cant wait for part two, this should defiantly get added as an update for UTY after defeating Afterlife Flowey once
Love the reference to the Holidays at 7:40
Flowey doing the thing with the robe captures the vibe of undertale yellow(1:00)
I really thought that if you follow Flowey always that Flowey might become you true friend
He's a cold-heartless Flower
Look into his eyes, uh-oh
He's been tellin' lies
He's a lover boy at play
He don't play by the rules, uh-oh
Clover, don't play the fool, no
You're the one givin' up the love
Anytime he needs it
But you turn your back, and then he's off and runnin' with the crowd
You're the one to sacrifice
Anything to please him
Do you really think he thinks about you when he's out?
He's a cold-hearted heartless Flower
Look into his eyes, uh-oh
He's been tellin' lies
He's a lover boy at play
He don't play by the rules, uh-oh
Girl, don't play the fool, no
It was only late last night
He was out there sneakin'
Then he called you up to check that you were waiting by the save point
All the world's a candy store
He's been trick or treatin'
When it comes to true friendship, clover, with him there's no one home
He's a cold-hearted heartless Flower
Look into his eyes, uh-oh
He's been tellin' lies
He's a lover boy at play
He don't play by the rules, uh-oh
, don't play the fool, no
You could find somebody better
He could only make you cry
You deserve somebody better girl
He's c-cold as ice
He's cold as ice
He's cold as ice
He's cold as ice
Stay away from him, girl
C-c-c-cold-hearted, ooh-ah-ah
C-c-c-cold-hearted, heartless Flower
C-c-c-cold-hearted, ooh-ah-ah
C-c-c-cold-hearted, snake
He's a cold-hearted snake
Look into his eyes, uh-oh
He's been tellin' lies
He's a lover boy at play
He don't play by the rules, uh-oh
Clover, don't play the fool, no
Ooh, ahh, look into his eyes
Ooh, ahh, he's been tellin' lies
Ooh, ahh, he don't play by rules
Ooh, ahh, , don't play the fool
He's a cold-hearted heartless Flower
Look into his eyes, uh-oh
He's been tellin' lies
He's a lover boy at play
He don't play by the rules, uh-oh
Clover, don't play the fool
He's a cold-hearted heartless Flower
Look into his eyes, uh-oh
He's been tellin' lies
He's a lover boy at play
maybe kind of
@@johay899WHAT
I was wondering how the asgore fight would go, and then I saw lil bro was lvl 2 he ain’t touching asgore 😂
in the trailer for the what if neutral route had clover at lvl 11, I have no idea why the creator decided to decrease their lvl to 2 like that. I feel like clover on aborted genocide in steamworks on lvl 12 would have them stand more of a chance against Asgore
“Some may even say I shouldn’t be helping you” called out moment
I LOVE HOW BRO JUST DID EVERYTHING IN THE HOME. I JUST LOVE IT
By the way, I notice some mentions about Yellow having continuity errors... What are some of them? [Guess one that at least felt odd is Chujin mentioning Boss Monsters being immortal until having a child, except Undertale's main 'Boss Monsters' are husband and wife, and actually had a child and Asgore and Toriel seemed fine for their (indeterminate) age.]
The boss monster one is fine. UT barely explains the rules of it. They only age when they have kids. When the kids die, they dont age anymore.
The only direct contridiction that doesn't rely on subtext/implication and outside information is the reason why Alphys was looking for fallen down monsters, in the original UT it was to look for a way to make monster souls last so that they could collect them and substitute them for a human soul. In UTY, Ceroba sends Kanako to Alphys for treatment. This only makes sense if Asgore/Alphys lied about the reasons for collecting fallen down monsters. Alphys herself was expecting the monsters to turn to dust: "ASGORE asked everyone outside the city for monsters that had "fallen down." Their bodies came in today. They're still comatose... And soon, they'll all turn into dust. But what happens if I inject "determination" into them? If their SOULS persist after they perish, then... Freedom might be closer than we all thought. things aren't going well. none of the bodies have turned into dust, so I can't get the SOULs. i told the families that i would give them the dust back for the funerals. people are starting to ask me what's happening. what do i do?" Also instead of Ceroba feeling that Kanako is alive, she should've just stated that Alphys called her to tell her that 'a few months/ a year/shortly after sending her' as Alphys did do that. Theres a few things that rely on subtext or small details from UT to become contradictions, mainly the timeline. Toriel (whos immortal until she gets killed or has a kid again and is implied to be significantly old, to her it would not be a long time) says to Frisk that a human hasn't fallen in a long time. The true lab experiments and Flowey's existence: The intent in UT from Toby was for him to be created after the 6th soul was taken, as it would make sense for a royal scientist to try and make soul power by collecting a ton of monster souls to replace a single human soul (according to the waterfall murels and the end of the TP route, it would take basically every monster soul to equal one human soul, which would also only really be an option if humans were extremely rare as well, but UTY forces Integrity, Clover, and Frisk into a very short timeframe of a few years). The save file numbering also implies that Flowey popped up after the 6 human souls were collected but since it relies on outside information (game files) it doesn't technically need to be taken into account. Some other stuff like the steamworks opening/closing dates as well.
Side note: Nowhere in UTY is Asgore's full plan of going to war against humanity mentioned. I think if Clover gave up their soul after learning that it would be kinda bizarre so maybe thats why it wasn't included? Idk.
@@evilness3404 If that last part was true, it does sound a bit ironic. Clover gives up their soul for the monsters to be free... And by the way, go through with war due to the tense relations and possible grudges against the human oppressors.
@mastermewtwo5503 i mean it is true. It is mentioned like 4 or 5 times in Undertale by major bosses (implicitly by toriel, explicitly by Undyne and Mettaton) that Asgore would wipe out humanity. The fact that it wasn't mentioned at all in UTY is baffling to me, but I like the game's story anyways so i look past it
As an update to this: the game actually does mention both of these. Blackjack mentions the overthrow humanity thing, and you can find a note in Ceroba's house from the royal science division, Ceroba just lied about it in the steamworks entrance cutscene.
The blackjack line tho is pretty vague and if clover knew Asgore was saying he would overthrow humanity and still decided to give up their soul it does make their character a bit weird, maybe they see humanity as having done such a massive sin that they deserve punishment as a whole? Would mirror the No Mercy route Clover, i suppose.
*Sees the fridge note*
;(
What you going to do with this I wonder? Will you break the chains of Destiny and kill Asgore? Or... or...
Wonder if Martlet or anyone one else will show up... in the end?
maybe there’ll be a different version of the funeral from the true pacifist ending
this theoretical funeral would change, depending on what happened in the neutrals as well as what your LV was giving the opportunity for real neutral endings just like in the original UT
@@johay899 That fateful phone call... though there's also the fact that maybe Clover would win this this time? If so... phone call?
esta cool, si hubiera una de que pasará si clover no cayera en el inicio de las ruinas sería interesante
WAIT. What if you go back to UG apartments roof after this???
Probably the same as neutral, with maybe Martlet commentating on you turning back.
Who knows though, maybe Martlet actually adopts you
@@NoName-oz3gj Flowey would fill even more offended, but I don't really think that Martlet will give you any special reaction.
i'd guess it'd mostly be the same, maybe Flowey's dialogue would be slightly different, being even more upset at the change of plans.
I really hope you keep working on this!! The work is incredible, and I really feel like the game should've given you the option between visiting Martlet on the roof or visiting Asgore.
Visiting Asgore on Neutral makes sense, with neutral being the "default" route, it's the most canonically safe if it ends with Clover falling for Flowey's plan and dying to Asgore. There is a mod called "The Elevator Mod" but it just lets you enter the elevator in UG Apartments to go to New Home and experience the Flawed Pacifist content basically.
If this were a part of the game and the Martlet scene + Flowey fight were optional and borderline "secret" like the Flawed Pacifist ending is, it would make them way cooler in my opinion.
Really looking forward to part 2 whenever it comes out!
Imagine if there was a longer version of undertale yellow's asgore battle theme, given that its only half of the actual ASGORE (aside from the fact that the uty game over motif replaces the ut game over motif)
WE NEED PT 2
I believe in this case, maybe we could get pass asgore (wich would lead us to a Omega Flowey but with 5 souls battle) that we maybe woundt win in an alternative universe this could be the case
If flowey can kill an aborted genocide clover easily, wouldnt this lead to flowey's victory?
@@dylanzlol7293 potentially yes, the only reason frisk won in the original is because Asgore held back
@@dylanzlol7293 Well, Souls can get rebellious like it happened in undertale. So, perhaps, there's still some hope left.
@@tealover2871 only because frisk called for help at the end, otherwise they were screwed
@@dylanzlol7293 Clover can do the same thing, if Flowey will get cocky, of course.
What if indeed...
I don't know if the takes on Gaster and his follower are relevant in some way or if you're just rebelling against the Fandom Mandela Effect for the sake of it...
what if clovers body could survive without a soul?
What would happen if Clover's body was injected with determination?
Then the humans could hang out and live with asgore and toriel at new home since theres no need to kill anybody if they can live without a soul
Steamworks is obviously not that old since less than decades ago it was said to be built. Gaster is so old that basically no character besides the followers even talk about him EVER. But I guess it does correlate in one way or another with UTY's inconsistent canon
so now, you are actually a real pacifist, you didn't kill everyone, but left martlet like nothing, i feel like she MIGHT be important later in part 2, but who knows..
Clover has lv 2 in the animation
That would be cool I think that this would be a potential endgame alternative to the judgments. You kind of get on top of the apartment building normally with flower and Asgore taking
13:49 I like the subtle fourth wall break.
how is it a fourth wall break?
@@syco9008 TL;DR, Flowey existing before all the 6 souls were collected causes some problems with what he says about his time being able to save and load.
That line is referencing the people that noticed those problems.
@@rodridanteDoes it? How so?
@@lasagna3289 Flowey was created by the culmination of all the six souls, don't make to much sense flowey help clover here because he wouldn't exist, just after clover death. Get it? My bad if don't, english is not my native lenguage.
Mettaton should be functioning now shouldn’t they?
Why is he not at his stage?
Why would it be in the core?
@@insertenombregenerico749 I mean, that’s where we fight him in Undertale
@@ChaoticDoodle Do you remember why we fought with Mettaton right in the core?
So there is an illogical statement of lore here. Flowey says he wasn't there before the other five souls. Well, Asriel and Chara's death was what caused the need for them.
Flowey didnt want to reveal he's asriel through.
and while Azriel may have been there before flower wasn’t after all, he needed to be reborn due to determination science experiments
I'm very dissapointed there was no mirror interaction...😢
I always wanted this
It did strike me as odd that in the actual Neutral route, Flowey turns homicidal just because I spoke to a bird on the rooftop. I never said I wasn't going to fight Asgore, and I wasn't aware socialization was a crime. Then when you do "fight" Asgore in Flawed Pacifist and Genocide, it's just a forced loss in your favor or Asgore's [especially Flawed Pacifist, I get the whole "Clover's already dead" but come on].
Thats because flowey wants to use clovers soul after they beat asgore and when flowey hears that clover wants to live with martlet, they get angry and decides to torture clover for leaving his misson.
@@AboobakkarCheeral I mean, Clover never explicitly said yes to Martlet's offer.
@@mastermewtwo5503 Flowey kills martlet before clover could answer so that their choice didn't matter
Only problem with UTY was how limited we were, there seems like there could be more to do only for the game to force you in one direction, pacifist forces your death without a choice, neutral you can’t even go to Asgore, you’re forced to stay with Martlet even if you don’t agree, genocide is genocide, not much to say on that since it can’t be changed, and it’s my favorite ending anyway. I get it, Clover is meant to die canonically, but some more non-canon endings than just 1 would be more appreciated.
This would be a great idea,instead of flowey betraying you after going to marlet,he basically does the same like in normal UT,you defeat asgore and he takes the 5 souls and tries to kill you
So this is why nobody could fix the core in horrortale.
Incredible, I adore things like this and have always wanted to see what would happen if you could go to Asgore
Wanted to do this so bad!
Imagine if you could use a debug menu to move through the velvet rope
I've always thought about this when first doing the neutral route (also at 4:43 nice reference to that one cut room in Waterfall with the tall grass)
9:35 bro rly said get tf out of my room LMFAOOO
Honestly, i thought this was a real thing cuz i never read the title, but i guess flowey never took you to the king, in any of the routes, and in genocide you kill him
YO THIS ANIMATION IS AMAZING! THE WAY FLOWEY LIFTS THE VELVET ROPE AND USES A LOOPHOLE ABOUT IT NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT GOING UNDER IS INSANE!
This is really cool!, I wish it was an actual mod, can't wait for part 2!
(also, I like how you used ''echoes of another'' for New Home, it really fits!)
Aww, I wanted to see how Clover would interact with the mirror
flowey gonna go crazy
One question, how is that done? I've tried it and it didn't work xd
It's a fan animation
Is a ""animation/gameplay"" not a real gameplay
Wow... this was incredible. I cannot wait until you finish part 2. Honestly, it would have been really cool if this were in the actual game, perhaps like as the hardest ending, or something. I think it has some really interestiing potential. Especially the part where Clover finds the family photo of Asgore, Toriel, Asriel, and Chara. I think if that were in the actual game, that could make Clover's character more interesting. Instead of believing that all monsters are bad, and that all humans are good, or instead what Frisk thinks, which is all humans are bad and that all monsters are good, finding this picture could have made Clover think and realize that both sides are morally gray, more than anything. It has some real potential.
This was almost perfect. A solid 9.5/10. My only critique is Flowey's dialogue when explaining Clover's soul to him. Other than that, it is amazing. Extremely well done, bravo.
Wow, I really liked this, I liked the dialogue, the music, and the references.
They should just add this as an option highkey
Never expected one of the Gaster followers to be in the New Home doing something different than being creepy
Idea: what if instead of going to the capital
Ceroba went to the lab as planned?
Is this some kind of a mod?
Animation
Should be a mod
Animation but could be a mod ngl
@@ralseithegod4244 I see
@@leosleoleo yeah
2:32 Gaster?
Beware of hand text 👌
Enters judgehall and suddenly sans undertale
Btw if you kill Ceroba on pacifist route, you actually can go to Asgore
the elevator doesnt seem to.... NOOOOOOOOO
13:48 lol thats pretty clever