Power Off 180 Landings | NOT EASY
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- The power of 180 accuracy landings are only tested in the US at commercial pilot level, however I'm a firm believer in all pilots having experience with them and maintaining proficiency. We don't get to decide when an engine failure is to occur but if it happened in the traffic pattern, proficiency with power off 180's would come in very handy.
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PO180s are far and away my favorite maneuver. I will go out on cloudy/rainy days when the pattern is empty at my local delta and easily bang out a dozen in under an hour of Hobbs. TBH, early in my training they scared to crap out of me but now they are a ton of fun.
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i passed my commercial ride yesterday and this is what put me the closest to failing. its certainly one of the one maneuvers where you have so little resources.
I Learned that higher approach is way better flaps way late will do the trick
Great to see you keeping your proficiency. That trim really seems to vex you :)
I really don’t like the trim 😂 but I’m getting it
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Oh no! Not off centerline! I expect better from you Lew! 😂
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I didn’t but but subconsciously Monty Python must have guided me 😂 The Holy Grail is one of my favourites!
Nice video. Loved the Flying Eyes bit at the beginning. Made me chuckle.
When I was learning I did a few of power off landings. Was quite fun to do. I completely fluffed the first as I introduced flaps a little too early and was well short of the runway! Forced myself into a go around but the next two I managed to get bang on!
My DPE made me do this for my PPL. I had foggles on, and he was telling me to climb, descend, turn to heading... the normal stuff. He then said his plane, and take off the foggles. As soon as I said... "My plane" he killed the power (idle) and said... "Where are you landing?" We were close to a small aiport (one he is known to use) and I said... "Guess I'm lucky we are so close to Ebensburg. (just north of KJST) I nailed it because my CFI warned me he was known for doing it, even though it's a commercial requirement... and we practiced them a bunch. Once you figure out to stay a little high, but with proper glide speed... the rest is easy. Add flaps, and slip if needed. FYI... I was 3000' higher than the airport... and about 2 miles away from downwind. (Piper Warrior)Thanks for the vid.
Although it’s not a required instrument manoeuvre it’s always good to be prepared for something like that. In the real world we don’t get to pick and choose when we have an engine failure. Sounds like you performed really well.
Your content is getting me through the long study days getting me PPL. Appreciate all of this !
Another great video. Power-off 180s were my favorite maneuver in Commercial!
Notice that when you use the steering wheel to correct right, adverse yaw sends the nose left initially. Unless we lead rudder, there is no coordination. Dutch rolls will firmly establish that in your mind. The only way to nail the centerline and keep the centerline is use rudder only with correct yaw to bracket the centerline. We are better at any athletic thing when we move. Flat footed reaction is never a good, even if coordinated aileron and rudder. We actually say that wrong. It should be rudder and aileron. Wolfgang should have named the book, Rudder and Stick, even though he knew to lead rudder. We all did before modern airplane mitigated adverse yaw rather than eliminated it. Fred Weick eleminated adverse yaw with the Ercoupe but Pug Piper would only let him mitigate it with spring interconnect in your Cherokee. You can just use the steering wheel and be somewhat coordinated, but the nose will always go the wrong way first.
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“Off centerline “ if the centerline is between the mains yer gucci! Hahah
Once the centerline is between our legs (optical, it will appear to be between both student and instructor's legs), we have longitudinal alignment. At this point we do not want to turn. Removing hands from yoke is a drill I use with students. Or jam your thump under one side of the yoke so when the student gets on that steering wheel he hits your thumb. Then say, "no aileron, no adverse incorrect yaw, rudder only, only correct yaw to bracket the centerline."
Just come to Kissimmee, you may have a fun time with a happy controller or you may be 3rd in line and have the grumpy controller! It's a roll of the dice :) haha
Great practice! My PPL CFI made me do several power off 180's this past 12 months. Great experience. I remember my first one was a not gonna make it... turned base too late! Better to be long than short! LOL!
Good, I’m glad to hear your instructor made you do power off 180’s!
I am in the midst of my CPL training at the moment, in Canada. I have been having fun with power-off 180s and the challenge of doing them in different conditions, as it greatly changes how they play out. I was doing circuits the other day when the wind was 18G27 which made for some interesting times 😆 For reference, I am aiming to flare at about the 500' marks for touchdown on the 1000' marks with full flaps in a Cessna 172; it will definitely float farther with less flaps ⛵
Yea you’re flying a boat so make sure to practice your harbouring but sounds about right to aim for the 500 foot markers to touch down on the 1,000 foot markers. I’m not a fan of putting all flaps in immediately but in a 172 you kind of have to, to get the thing down in time haha
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I’m in the planning phase for something 👀
Lew! I got my PPL in September last year! If you are ever near KDED, please let me know! I'd love to fly with you again man. Great content as always :)
I'm starting my commercial training soon so this video was perfect!!! (just like all your other videos) :)
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Cessnas of the Caribbean - Johnny can’t get in too depp
Love my FE Golden Eagles.
ETA: is 13C's turn coordinator inop? I didn't see any bank on it during your left 360.
Try walking rudders only, dynamic proactive rudder, to bracket the centerline between your legs. And from Wolfgang in Stick and Rudder on page 302, "The 'stall-down' landing requires that you blend the approach glide, the flair-out, and the slowing up of the airplane all into one maneuver so that, when you arrive at ground level, you arrive in three-point attitude, all slowed up and ready to squat." And on 304, "The clue to watch is the intended landing spot and the scenery beyond it and to the sides of it. Once the normal glide has been broken, the process of stalling the airplane down can be gauged entirely by watching the spot and the perspective in which it appears and its apparent motion." We have lots of iterations of using the apparent brisk walk rate of closure, what we see from way back, to gauge the deceleration we make into every intersection or round about with our autos. By keeping the apparent motion the same, we decelerate properly coming into ground effect so that when we get into ground effect we don't float uncontrollably.
I love that book! It was the only thing that showed me the landing picture and suddenly I understood when to flare after I'd struggled for hours and hours not getting it. The only thing to remember is that for much of the book he is talking about tailwheel aircraft so the actual touchdown is different.
Doing this without slips requires a looooot of experience. Impressive stuff.
Thank you! Still not perfect though!
literally just when you uploaded this video, i was doing the exact same exercise in my training!
Haha sweet!
Love these manuers
Great video, PO180 is my dreaded maneuver for the commercial, I fly a Mooney and it floats for days.
Certainly is a tough manoeuvre!
Lew, another most excellent content. Thank you for sharing this important maneuver!👏👏👏🛩
Obrigado, Gly!
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Is not the 180 power off included in the PPL checkride for the FAA licence? Here, it's included in the PPL as well as the LAPL and also the ultralight checkride afaik.
Technically it’s an emergency procedure so to me that says it can be tested. Not as an accuracy approach though. I was tested on it during my private pilot checkride. The examiner chopper the power on the downwind and left me to figure it out. I hadn’t practiced power off 180’s much at all which is why I’m big on nailing them now I’m more experienced and instructing!
@@LewDixAviation Thanks for the clarification! I did one on my private checkride, power out at around 750 AGL so you'd better be tightening that approach, then we went again but prepared this time 😅 and also combined with a no flap landing.
i wish i was able to be in the seat all damn day
its a chub generator for sure!
Awesome vid, would you be kind enough to show us amateurs taxi to runway including tower control communication? Love the channel captain 🤩
hardest part of my CSEL training
Great video as always. It must get bloody hot in those Pipers in Florida.
I was going to meet up with you in 2020 for a flight, but you know what stopped that in it’s tracks.
It’s like a sauna but as soon as you get on the ground and pop that door open it’s bliss!
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Amazing content as always dude. Can we bring back the rave music as you trim overhead? 😂
Oh also are you and Jon rocking the same colour scheme on your liveries? 😂
I’ll bring back Gangnam style
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What happened to the podcast? Haven't seen a new episode in a while. Love the videos
Haven’t had chance to record any recently. I’ll be recording more when I get some time. Being a one man production team makes it difficult to juggle everything I’m doing haha
It’s precision maneuver as per the flying handbook
Dude that was awesome 👌!
Ah I’m so glad you liked it
Good to see you flying in to Leesburg where I’m doing my training 😄
I love flying into KLEE!
@@LewDixAviation I hope to run into you one of these days dude, love the vids
No way this is Leesburg?! Haha I went there for my long cross country
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Thanks Jags!
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What about engine out procedures?❤
Why is the right side ceiling light turned on?
Hey Lew
Thanks for the video mate
Quick Question what do you use to grab the ATC Audio ? i've been looking recording Traffic Calls with my GoPro
Hmm. Little editing never hurt anyone. 😂
my DPE did the same thing to me on the sport checkride last month. he said the main thing was just point it to the numbers straight away
The sport checkride is very different. The Power Off 180 is a commercial maneuver about energy management, you've got to hit the right spot.
@@shaneboulds5240 I realize that, but when he pulls the power at the end of the down wind and tells you to hit the numbers, I would say it's not far off a power off 180 :)
That trimmer is doing my head in. Which way is up/down!!!
EXACTLY!
A handy mnemonic is which way it's going to move your nose if the handle hits you as you turn it. In the back of the head, it's nose down. In the forehead, it's nose up. The problem is, that only works from the left seat!
What’s that handle on the ceiling 😮
Great video as always, Lewdix. How would someone who’s unfamiliar with the area know that Lake Apopka is a training area as well as its radio frequency?
There’s no way that you would know unless you fly in the area and are familiar. There’s no depiction on any FAA chart that it’s a practice area. Same for the frequency. Weird right?
Lew you mentioned that you're flying out of KORL again, can you post a link of where you rent now
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Anybody else noticed the red light of the cockpit on
My Archer gives me fits trying to hit the cl on landing. When entering ground effect, the nose goes left and I miss it. Maybe not enough rr when entering ge?? IDK but its frustrating. Good vid! - I'm gonna try PO180 on my next solo. Prepping for the checkride.
An advise on judging the ground effect between cessna's and piper's? I'm training in archers and keep misjudging the flare height :/ Love the videos btw, really helps me out!
Practice, practice, practice and the site picture will come. Make sure to look to end of runway. If you think you flared to high and bleeding too much speed give it a bump of throttle to reset if you have enough runway, otherwise go around. Don’t settle for dropping it in, you hear the stall horn and feel your gonna drop harder than you want add a touch of power for a couple seconds to reset. It’ll come and part of the fun of learning.
Isn't power off 180 what they call when you lose power on upwind, not downwind?
It’s more of a power of 220 when it happens on upwind. 😉
AKA "the impossible turn."
Lew are you going to be at Oshkosh #OSH23
Doesn’t look like it, unfortunately.
Cessnas of the Caribbean 🤣🤣🤣
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Been training in the PA28, your favorite! What’s your go-to approach speed?
Warrior, or cherokee? What engine power?...
@@1abc219 archer II 180hp, and I’m not quite sure the power setting, i adjust that with pitch as needed, but generally probably hovering between 15-1700
adding flaps while on a turn, please explain how it affects you aerodynamically? just a student pilot trying to learn. Thank you all.
I’ve never had a problem with extending flaps in a turn, but some people say that in the event of flap failure where one flap deploys and the other doesn’t, or one more than the other, you’re risking spinning. Obviously spinning at low altitude is highly dangerous. Their concerns are valid, but in practice I’ve never even come close to this happening. It’s very rare.
It’s far more important to keep your turns at 20 degrees or less. A 45 degree turn on base to final can cause a stall at the lower speed
@@LewDixAviation Roger that. Thank you for taking the time to reply and honestly, thank you for what you do for us aviators managing your content and LIFE all at the same time.
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LEWIS --- you are back in the "correct wing position apparatasical flying machine"
that first landing.. Lewis.. PARK it.. you clearly need instruction from Otto and his awesome personality as that wonderful CFI.
ok serious question now.
in the event of a total power failure, noise convertor no longer spinning, can you really use what you have practiced as a good example? I mean, yes there is no way to practice for real, unless you kill the engine, but i would, how much difference is there? If you practice and practice and know how your plane handles, (while the engine is idling, still producing some thrust), how much of that is out the window in the event of a complete failure.. for example, would you even make it to the runway, if you were at the downwind/base point and a 6 kt wind?
When do you pull out the power for power of 180 degree
I do it abeam the touchdown point, but I suppose you can do it anywhere. We don’t get to choose when we have an emergency.
What was your altitude AGL when you pulled power?
1,000 AGL. Pattern altitude.
The confused gestures you’re making while trying to find which way to trim up or down made me laugh so hard 😂 seems like such a horrible design
😂 the worst trim they could have designed, for definite.
Im looking for a cherokee to rent out of kissimmee or executive. Any recommendations?
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I always wonder if the tower people are judging landings all day. I know I would be
Haha absolutely
I know it is edited but there is no welcome to the sky after the of centerline t&g or the last one 😢 Need more editing training ;-)
Or more training to stay on centreline? 🫣
@@LewDixAviation Nah, the welcome to the sky is what makes a great pilot ! Centerline is just for passengers
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Wasted* .. You do realize I make money with ads like that don’t you? 😂
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@@trains2u185 I’m messing with you. I spent about $10 on the hobbs. I can confirm, the deal is completely worth it 😉
@@LewDixAviation i dare you to hop in an Extra 300 or something and do aerobatics. Love your work though, keep it up bossman!!
@@trains2u185 thank brother! I’d absolutely love to!
For my power off 180, I was in a C172 but I would go power out and flaps full and turn right to the numbers and landed on my mark 18/20 times
C172’s are an aviation mystery. The first mystery being how a company could make such a bad trainer but still brainwash flight schools into buying them. The second one being that when I do power off 180’s in them, my approaches are all regular traffic patterns with no power. They float for days.