I feel like these would be very practical for getting large trains over mountains but I SOMEHOW suspect that they just MIGHT not pass the tier 3 emission standards.
I love off the wall train sets like these. If i had the money i would buy it but at that price i dont think it would had hurt mth to add a power pack and maybe at least a circle track to the set so those that might just wanting the set and not get into the full hobby and run it as soon as thry get the track set up. I miss the good old days when all train sets came with track and power pack but it seems like more and more these days train sets don't do that anymore sadly or at least the ones i see
FANTASTIC review as always Eric!!!!!!!!!!! It looks like MTH did a great job on the Veranda Turbine Set! I will definitely give Jeff a call down at the Train Loft if I decide to get one, he is only about a 1.5 hour drive from where I am in NC, its always nice to pay him a visit. Anyways, thanks for the awesome review bud and have a great day!
Hi Eric • Talking about the History of the large Union Pacific Engines is very helpful for all Modeler Railroaders. The fuel consumption issue is interesting in all about they worked out a solution. With the tender tank & Bunker 'C' Fuel. Heating this fuel to get it to the pistons seemed to work until the price went up. Great Historic Information. As one of your viewers, I like the history lesson over the Engine Review & all the detailed information. Thanks for doing the history lesson. (Side Bar) • Since I retired I have been reading Railroad Books from my Public Library & check out DVD's about Trains Cheers from Michigan
Bunker C oil went up in price because of the increased use of plastic. It became too expensive to run when diesel was $0.06 a gallon. It is still a cool-looking locomotive.
Big Lionel fan (in part thanks to grandpa), but this thing is awesome. An overwhelming beast in model railroading. It sounds great, sounds LOUD and huge, has the 4 motors.. pretty exciting.
Man I love the UP. They've had a lot of interesting, unique and large locomotives on their roster over the years from the Big boy, Challenger, Veranda, DD35A etc, thats why its my favorite railroad. I love that model is loud like the real Veranda. Great video Eric!
The 8500 hp turbines could develop even 10'000 hp depending on altitude in the Rockies it's too bad their turbines didn't use jet A jet fuel, they did down the road switch to a number 6 heavy black fuel oil, just not jet a jet fuel still impressive that they didn't fly, I wonder what kind of of thrust in pounds those things had, wow still impressive after 50 to 60 years later mth is awesome great classic video those things must have been even louder at speed 65 to 70 mph great video
Eric: Thanks for a great and well researched review of a fantastic MTH model. MTH certainly does give one the biggest bang for the buck. The boxcars included with the set are modeled after the AAR 50' automobile boxcar and they have modeled the double doors on the one end of each car. I was wondering if those end doors actually open or are they stationary? I also agree with your philosophy on mistakes. Thanks again for a top notch review!
Another great video and review Eric! I've always been a big fan of the UP's turbine units. I'm proud to say that I've recently been able to buy the UP propane turbine version that MTH put out a while ago, from my local train shop that they were selling on consignment from someone who was looking to get rid of it. The only thing I can see wrong was the yellow color that MTH choose for this model. The UP turbines had a much darker Armour yellow texture, almost golden in appearance. The standard worn by almost all of UP's postwar diesel's. The yellow here looks a little bit too bright. I could be wrong though. Maybe it's just because of the camera. In all I really enjoyed this nice and long review. Keep up the videos!
***** Dude I love the Verandas , lol All i meant to say was that the Turbine was louder than the horn and bell in this video So Like i said who needs a Horn and Bell with a Turbine like that. Besides I never specified in the first place , so please don't automatically be quick to judge without asking and getting the story right first.
How about the fact that all of the Veranda turbines weren't preserved? There are only two Big Blows left, which are bigger and more powerful than the Verandas, and most likely even louder and thirstier than the Verandas.
Like that O-gauge UP turbine electric locomotive. At the Naptown model train club in Indianapolis, Indiana a member ran an HO scale UP turbine. It produced a loud jet noise you could hear everywhere. The owner said the crews of the real UP turbines had to turn the turbine off before getting close to a town due to the high noise. The crews would then run with just the Diesel to get through and away from the town. If that was the situation then the Diesel was needed for road power in addition to starting the turbine and moving the locomotive through railroad yards. I was suspicious of the story because it seemed UP would have to have extra regular Diesel electric locomotives available for road power without the very large horsepower of the turbine. The UP turbine is rumored to have been largely experimental in nature in that the manufacture was using it to develop jet turbine technology for rough service. Trying out different fuels would make sense for a developmental jet turbine program attempting to research practical applications for jet turbine technology. Today a great deal of electrical power is generated for the grid from electric generators turned by jet turbines burning natural gas. Gas turbine electric generation is especially used for in city peak electric power generation because of its low emissions, fast start up, relatively compact plant size, comparatively fast installation time and as a fix for maxed out power transmission lines where there is no medium term practical means of increasing capacity. Those UP turbine electric locomotives may have contributed to practical application of jet turbine technology for electrical power generation.
Eric I love your fluidity with which you talk, you are amazing a describing the subject in an extremely powerful and jet good nature attitude. On the model although I'm not a big fan of 3 rail models, the reason you don't see 3 prototypes. Anyway the model is!! well made model with a lot of beautiful details, is just beautiful that's it. And you my friend get 5***** for you fabulous review. Thanks for sharing. I watch you videos all the time. One question though. The 3 rail is really needed for additional pick up/ Could they do without it Thank you! RT
The 3rd rail is the hot connection and 2 outer rails are ground. The 3-rail system was invented way back in the early 20th century so that customers wouldn't have to worry about special wiring to deal with polarity changes in reversing loops. In other words, the 3-rail system was developed because it's more user friendly than 2 rail...though not as realistic as 2-rail. I don't mind, however. I just ignore the 3rd rail. :)
ericstrains Thanks Eric for lesson in rail polarity! I never would have guess that it was because of that. I thought it was because it require more power and some how it was more dangerous to rout the power to two rails. Thanks for putting me straight. RT
ericstrains Eric an good concise description of 'why 3 rail'. After 40 years in 'scale' modeling, I have now come to appreciate the plusses of the 3-rail system, and will have to say the third rail 'disappears' when running the trains and when enjoying the scenery. That is my opinion.
I don't model 3 rail HO but always enjoy your reviews Eric. The pilot was separate on the real units too, so in this case the separate pilot is prototypically correct. Happy St. Patrick's Day from Ireland.
Eric, superb review as always. Thanks for taking the time to share. I look forward to your next video. How is the third section of the trestle coming along?
By the way the Verandas were the 2nd Generation of Gas Turbine Electric Locomotives. None were preserved, or the Generation 1s. There are two 3rd Generation GTELs preserved.
onw m Man with clean Fingers and clean Hands and clean Nails in the Video. Good way for to show things This is not usual. For this he make a lot of views. And he is very very informativ. I like all what he do. Greatings from Spain Well done
Eric, you mentioned that the turbine operated in the yard on the diesel only, but when you started this unit the Turbine started immediately. Can you operate the diesel by its self like the actual locomotive?
Very Cool! I'm into Brennan Monorail tech these days and hope the American Unirail Company gets with my home town Sandy Springs Georgia to build the monorail system that they need. Did the U.P. ever get into free piston diesel loco's, or nuke powered loco's? The Thorium Reactor tech from Oak Ridge Labs in Tennessee would have made a good fit in a loco that would be free of green house gas emissions. Good post , Thanks! THORIUM!
Had a couple of these in HO. From SHOH sold them. Impressive locos. Bigger was better is what got them into trouble, and the MP merger with the MP managment taking over the operation of RR, only thing they kept was the name.
Hey Eric I just bought one of these knowing about the smoke problem and hoping to find the parts you mentioned but I can't find them anywhere. I would like to install these myself so it could be back on track soon but like I said I can't find those parts for the smoke unit. Do you have an idea where I could get them?
Is the Veranda Turbine Boxcar set still available on the MTH website? I can't tell, as I do not have an account. I'm trying to buy 2 of these (don't ask why) for a layout I'm working on.
The minimum diameter curve. For this engine, The minimum required curve is O-72, which means it cannot run properly on any curve that would make a circle with less than a 72 inch diameter.
I have this same setup but I do not have a dcs system so I run it in conventional mode if I run it. My question is would the new MTH DCS Explorer work on this engine? Thanks in advanced
Aaron Ham the point of the horn is to announce the train’s presence to everyone around so that people can get out of its way. That’s why it’s so loud. It’s gets your attention.
They should have a closed pilot and have attached to the body because you're not going to do any switching with it. It would look so much more realistic. It is a shame that O Gage does not emulate the practice of HO scale with offering dummies and undecorated models so you can paint one for your favorite road and if you don't have 072 careers at least you could have it in a roundhouse or on a turntable. So at least you could have one in your collection for half price.
The SD series is EMD, not GE. But I agree, I love the SD series diesels, the SD40-2 is fantastic, though my favourite motive power is the GP38-2, at least as far as EMD diesels are concerned. For GE, my favourite is probably the U25B U-Boat, ALCo is the RS-1, and Baldwin is the RS-12. Steam locomotives are an entirely different story, though, I could drone on about steam locomotives for hours, lol.
@@That_One_Guy_In_A_Band I really like the DD40Ax too. They really should start manufacturing 100 foot locomotives again. I'm from nyc. Have you seen New Jersey Rail's fleet? They have some of the nicest rolling stock in the the nation. They have bi-level Bombardier passenger cars in service since 2006. My favorite locomotives are the ALPs. They are made by Bombardier. And I just found out that New Jersey plans to retire all the remaining GE Arrow III cars in 2020. They came new in 1979.........this was around the time Amtrak was formed. If you look at Amtrak's Amfleet cars and New Jersey's Arrow cars they resemble each other very much. Do you know about Metro North? (formerly New York Central Railroad). There's some very interesting history about that line too.
@@milestone_achiever4634 I'm from Long Island, so I'm familiar with Metro North. Specifically the LIRR branch. I live not too far from a station where the DE30AC and DM30AC locomotives run relatively often. They're nice locomotives, and they look amazing hauling a set of C3 bi-leveles, in my opinion. My favourite locomotive of all time is the Milwaukee Road class F7 4-6-4 Baltic locomotives, of which none survive, sadly, though several manufacturers make models of them in several scales, with my favourite model being the Lionel Standard Gauge model that was released during the TMCC era. The whistle on that engine is absolutely phenomenal. I actually operate a real steam locomotive occasionally, too, at the Railroad Museum of Long Island.
Union Pacific had a total of 55 gas turbine locomotives devided into 3 different types. Type 1: Standard turbines. UP had 10 of them, numbered 51 through 60, built between January 1952 through August 1953, producing 4500 horsepower. All are scrapped. : ( Type 2: Veranda turbines. There were 15 of thsese, numbered 61 through 75, built between March and October of 1954. Also 4500 horsepower. Named veranda's because of the walkways on the side. These are all scrapped as well. Type 3: Big Bolow turbines. Double-unit versions, 30 of these monsters. Intended to be numbered 7000 through 7029, but numbered 1 through 30 instead. They're built between August 1958 and June 1961. They produced 8500 horsepower, making them the world's most powerful locomotives. And two of them (18 and 26) are saved. But just barely...
You’re only pulling 5 cars? A far smaller ‘Alco’ could do that. I would have thought you’d display at least 30 or more. According to UP the 63 could haul 100 or more.
*THIS IS A SET* you idiot. Model railroading is limited by the users layout size. I run 100-150 car trains on my O Scale layouts and that’s because my layout can accommodate that length.
I feel like these would be very practical for getting large trains over mountains but I SOMEHOW suspect that they just MIGHT not pass the tier 3 emission standards.
“We don’t have to worry about fuel prices we can run what ever we want” Got me amazing video!
Imagine a veranda turbine pulling a passenger train with sleeper cars at night. LOL
ZingyLeroy09 man that would SUCKKKKKKKKK
BNSF UNION PACIFIC RAILWAY Taaj I believe the turbine would be much louder than any signal sounds.
Passenger: Jesus Christ I can’t sleep
Other passenger: I thought these were sound proof
Insert Loud Great Big Rolling Railroad
There would be no sleep for anyone
I really love the insight you have in your reviews, like the way you handle certain issues with models that you may not have, but other people do.
I can only imagine how it was like to rail fan around one of these things.
RAILFAN AROUND WHAT NOW?
I CANT HEAR YOU!
I love off the wall train sets like these. If i had the money i would buy it but at that price i dont think it would had hurt mth to add a power pack and maybe at least a circle track to the set so those that might just wanting the set and not get into the full hobby and run it as soon as thry get the track set up. I miss the good old days when all train sets came with track and power pack but it seems like more and more these days train sets don't do that anymore sadly or at least the ones i see
FANTASTIC review as always Eric!!!!!!!!!!! It looks like MTH did a great job on the Veranda Turbine Set! I will definitely give Jeff a call down at the Train Loft if I decide to get one, he is only about a 1.5 hour drive from where I am in NC, its always nice to pay him a visit. Anyways, thanks for the awesome review bud and have a great day!
Thanks, Bill.
Hi Eric • Talking about the History of the large Union Pacific Engines is very helpful for all Modeler Railroaders. The fuel consumption issue is interesting in all about they worked out a solution. With the tender tank & Bunker 'C' Fuel. Heating this fuel to get it to the pistons seemed to work until the price went up. Great Historic Information. As one of your viewers, I like the history lesson over the Engine Review & all the detailed information. Thanks for doing the history lesson.
(Side Bar) • Since I retired I have been reading Railroad Books from my Public Library & check out DVD's about Trains
Cheers from Michigan
Thanks!
Bunker C oil went up in price because of the increased use of plastic. It became too expensive to run when diesel was $0.06 a gallon. It is still a cool-looking locomotive.
That's a beast of an engine, very nice set. Thanks for sharing!
Ex
Big Lionel fan (in part thanks to grandpa), but this thing is awesome. An overwhelming beast in model railroading. It sounds great, sounds LOUD and huge, has the 4 motors.. pretty exciting.
Man I love the UP. They've had a lot of interesting, unique and large locomotives on their roster over the years from the Big boy, Challenger, Veranda, DD35A etc, thats why its my favorite railroad. I love that model is loud like the real Veranda. Great video Eric!
Love your forgiving mature attitude regarding humans and mistakes. Excellent product review
The 8500 hp turbines could develop even 10'000 hp depending on altitude in the Rockies it's too bad their turbines didn't use jet A jet fuel, they did down the road switch to a number 6 heavy black fuel oil, just not jet a jet fuel still impressive that they didn't fly, I wonder what kind of of thrust in pounds those things had, wow still impressive after 50 to 60 years later mth is awesome great classic video those things must have been even louder at speed 65 to 70 mph great video
This seems to be the only engine of this kind to be made by UP but was later scrapped
Great set Eric!
Found this review since you just did the Lionel review.
The turbine start puff on the Lionel is very note worthy.
Great review on up 63. Looks great on your layout. Just like to say how much I appreciate your reviews and how you like to go in to details. Thanks
Eric your train reviews are the best in RUclips! Keep it up
Eric: Thanks for a great and well researched review of a fantastic MTH model. MTH certainly does give one the biggest bang for the buck. The boxcars included with the set are modeled after the AAR 50' automobile boxcar and they have modeled the double doors on the one end of each car. I was wondering if those end doors actually open or are they stationary? I also agree with your philosophy on mistakes. Thanks again for a top notch review!
Another great video and review Eric! I've always been a big fan of the UP's turbine units. I'm proud to say that I've recently been able to buy the UP propane turbine version that MTH put out a while ago, from my local train shop that they were selling on consignment from someone who was looking to get rid of it. The only thing I can see wrong was the yellow color that MTH choose for this model. The UP turbines had a much darker Armour yellow texture, almost golden in appearance. The standard worn by almost all of UP's postwar diesel's. The yellow here looks a little bit too bright. I could be wrong though. Maybe it's just because of the camera. In all I really enjoyed this nice and long review. Keep up the videos!
Geez I just love the design of the front.
what i noticed woth the tether is blended in it looks exactly like a fuel hose transporting the fuel to the train
That looks cool in a way, looks like it stands out from the other GTELs. Roof looks cool too.
Who needs a Horn or bell with an Engine like that ! XD
I didn't insult anything all i said was the Turbine was Loud as fuck, lighten up its humor.
***** Dude I love the Verandas , lol All i meant to say was that the Turbine was louder than the horn and bell in this video
So Like i said who needs a Horn and Bell with a Turbine like that. Besides I never specified in the first place , so please don't automatically be quick to judge without asking and getting the story right first.
There increase of fuel consumption is what's keeping them out of service.
How about the fact that all of the Veranda turbines weren't preserved? There are only two Big Blows left, which are bigger and more powerful than the Verandas, and most likely even louder and thirstier than the Verandas.
Only The Best 1984 I also heard that some towns were salty as hell when the engines would go cruising through in the middle of the night.
Great review. I appreciate your mature view on manufacturing mistakes.
Robert
Very informative video. I did not know Veranda was a name for a deck/porch
Oh hey Craftyfoxe
Like that O-gauge UP turbine electric locomotive. At the Naptown model train club in Indianapolis, Indiana a member ran an HO scale UP turbine. It produced a loud jet noise you could hear everywhere. The owner said the crews of the real UP turbines had to turn the turbine off before getting close to a town due to the high noise. The crews would then run with just the Diesel to get through and away from the town. If that was the situation then the Diesel was needed for road power in addition to starting the turbine and moving the locomotive through railroad yards. I was suspicious of the story because it seemed UP would have to have extra regular Diesel electric locomotives available for road power without the very large horsepower of the turbine.
The UP turbine is rumored to have been largely experimental in nature in that the manufacture was using it to develop jet turbine technology for rough service. Trying out different fuels would make sense for a developmental jet turbine program attempting to research practical applications for jet turbine technology. Today a great deal of electrical power is generated for the grid from electric generators turned by jet turbines burning natural gas. Gas turbine electric generation is especially used for in city peak electric power generation because of its low emissions, fast start up, relatively compact plant size, comparatively fast installation time and as a fix for maxed out power transmission lines where there is no medium term practical means of increasing capacity. Those UP turbine electric locomotives may have contributed to practical application of jet turbine technology for electrical power generation.
Eric I love your fluidity with which you talk, you are amazing a describing the subject in an extremely powerful and jet good nature attitude. On the model although I'm not a big fan of 3 rail models, the reason you don't see 3 prototypes. Anyway the model is!! well made model with a lot of beautiful details, is just beautiful that's it. And you my friend get 5***** for you fabulous review. Thanks for sharing. I watch you videos all the time. One question though. The 3 rail is really needed for additional pick up/ Could they do without it Thank you! RT
The 3rd rail is the hot connection and 2 outer rails are ground. The 3-rail system was invented way back in the early 20th century so that customers wouldn't have to worry about special wiring to deal with polarity changes in reversing loops. In other words, the 3-rail system was developed because it's more user friendly than 2 rail...though not as realistic as 2-rail. I don't mind, however. I just ignore the 3rd rail. :)
ericstrains I'm an HO modeler any good Steamies?
ericstrains Thanks Eric for lesson in rail polarity! I never would have guess that it was because of that. I thought it was because it require more power and some how it was more dangerous to rout the power to two rails. Thanks for putting me straight. RT
ericstrains
Eric an good concise description of 'why 3 rail'. After 40 years in 'scale' modeling, I have now come to appreciate the plusses of the 3-rail system, and will have to say the third rail 'disappears' when running the trains and when enjoying the scenery. That is my opinion.
ericstrains ´gi
Very beautiful turbine power up!
I don't model 3 rail HO but always enjoy your reviews Eric. The pilot was separate on the real units too, so in this case the separate pilot is prototypically correct. Happy St. Patrick's Day from Ireland.
Good to know. Thanks!
This isn't 3 rail HO! This is 3 rail O scale
Looks like you got a Pennsylvania GG1 in the background.
Eric, superb review as always. Thanks for taking the time to share. I look forward to your next video. How is the third section of the trestle coming along?
Eric, I was wondering why the headlight continued to flash. It just kind eve caught my eye. Very cool train!
Great video. Thanks for all the good info. Fantastic layout also.
By the way the Verandas were the 2nd Generation of Gas Turbine Electric Locomotives. None were preserved, or the Generation 1s. There are two 3rd Generation GTELs preserved.
onw m
Man with clean Fingers and clean Hands and clean Nails in the Video.
Good way for to show things
This is not usual.
For this he make a lot of views.
And he is very very informativ.
I like all what he do.
Greatings from Spain
Well done
Another great video. I need to start doing this for some of the HO stuff.
That is why union Pacific is my favourite railroad company this is 1960 turbine model ...
Great video Eric I say mth did a great job she's all fueled up I like the light on the engine the most
Take note that the horn on this engine sounds a lot like the horn on the Baldwin centipede that he did a review on before this video.
Eric, you mentioned that the turbine operated in the yard on the diesel only, but when you started this unit the Turbine started immediately. Can you operate the diesel by its self like the actual locomotive?
Hi Eric, I have a question about the veranda. What curve can it negotiate on?
O-72
What is your favorite diesel from the Union Pacific Railway?
Cool engine but you think they would have fixed the problem in the later sets with the smoke unit
So basically, hooking the train and tender together extends the train by moving the default coupler the the back of the tender.
The 80th addition to my list of trains to build in minecraft, not counting rolling stock
Eric, A very great job on another review.
0:40 electrification excluded!
3:47 that was the first MTH catalog that wasn't a ready to run one!
19:58 what does the extra "P" on the cupola mean?
great set!! the engine start kinda sounds like a CF6-80E1 jet engine starting :)
That would be an awesome technology to run on compressed natural gas or liquified petroleum gas.
what I don't understand is that there are plenty of videos of the real horn and they put some silly horn on there instead
is there a master volume control?
This is definitely heavy. This is in line with the 1:50 scale. Now is the body metal or plastic? I know that the chassis and frame are metal
Very Cool! I'm into Brennan Monorail tech these days and hope the American Unirail Company gets with my home town Sandy Springs Georgia to build the monorail system that they need. Did the U.P. ever get into free piston diesel loco's, or nuke powered loco's? The Thorium Reactor tech from Oak Ridge Labs in Tennessee would have made a good fit in a loco that would be free of green house gas emissions. Good post , Thanks! THORIUM!
Beautiful locomotive
Awesome set! MTH gives you a great bang for your buck!
Very cool set! And as usual a great video.
The thing behind the horn is the air conditioner. It gets hot out in the desert 🏜️.
When you reviewed the Erie Triplex you said “If it was MTH it’s best to wait until later when we do the PFA”
Just got a Bachmann Overland Limited HO scale set today
I think the only locomotives the up never had was a full electric locomotive (third rail, or pantograph) but I could be wrong
Had a couple of these in HO. From SHOH sold them. Impressive locos. Bigger was better is what got them into trouble, and the MP merger with the MP managment taking over the operation of RR, only thing they kept was the name.
Will there ever be a model of the Siemens P2000, or Kinkisharyo P3010 of Los Angeles Metro!?
Hey Eric I just bought one of these knowing about the smoke problem and hoping to find the parts you mentioned but I can't find them anywhere. I would like to install these myself so it could be back on track soon but like I said I can't find those parts for the smoke unit. Do you have an idea where I could get them?
Is the Veranda Turbine Boxcar set still available on the MTH website? I can't tell, as I do not have an account. I'm trying to buy 2 of these (don't ask why) for a layout I'm working on.
I’m not super educated in this hobby, so what do you mean by the minimum curve needed to run the engine?
The minimum diameter curve. For this engine, The minimum required curve is O-72, which means it cannot run properly on any curve that would make a circle with less than a 72 inch diameter.
I Love this engine
the Fuel Tankers were from retired steam engines!
Have you thought about getting a Lionel Vision Line Big Boy?
I have this same setup but I do not have a dcs system so I run it in conventional mode if I run it. My question is would the new MTH DCS Explorer work on this engine? Thanks in advanced
Excellent narration.
Hey Eric, will you review some railking Imperial locomotives?
What’s the point of the horn if you can hear it miles away
Aaron Ham the point of the horn is to announce the train’s presence to everyone around so that people can get out of its way. That’s why it’s so loud. It’s gets your attention.
Hurray for turban sets!
Hey Eric I'm building on my lay out an I was thing about getting the lionel canidan pacific es44ac
Is it a good train
Skippermike 138 it's pretty good
Hey Eric
YEs its a great engine. Have you had any issues with derailing on O72 switches?
I guess not since I just saw your engine go thru some on your layout.
No, not O-72.
I seem to recollect that they did run these in tandem at 1 stage..
Lionel should make a vision line Veranda. It has a lot of feature Lionel would make awesome.
They already made a vision line Centipede, so I don't think a Veranda is very likely. But it would be cool.
ericstrains what about a big blow?
Great video Eric
This engine is a beast
he says that they add the price of $100 to the engine price, but they actually add the regular price of the cars to the price of the engine
I wonder how many drops of smoke fluid that thing uses per 15 minutes of run time. SO much smoke.
what was the length of the veranda in real life?
Great Review Eric! Awesome Engine!
They should have a closed pilot and have attached to the body because you're not going to do any switching with it. It would look so much more realistic. It is a shame that O Gage does not emulate the practice of HO scale with offering dummies and undecorated models so you can paint one for your favorite road and if you don't have 072 careers at least you could have it in a roundhouse or on a turntable. So at least you could have one in your collection for half price.
Great review Eric
I really hope that GE manufactures an SD-100. They should continue that legacy
The SD series is EMD, not GE. But I agree, I love the SD series diesels, the SD40-2 is fantastic, though my favourite motive power is the GP38-2, at least as far as EMD diesels are concerned. For GE, my favourite is probably the U25B U-Boat, ALCo is the RS-1, and Baldwin is the RS-12. Steam locomotives are an entirely different story, though, I could drone on about steam locomotives for hours, lol.
@@That_One_Guy_In_A_Band I really like the DD40Ax too.
They really should start manufacturing 100 foot locomotives again.
I'm from nyc. Have you seen New Jersey Rail's fleet? They have some of the nicest rolling stock in the the nation.
They have bi-level Bombardier passenger cars in service since 2006.
My favorite locomotives are the
ALPs. They are made by Bombardier.
And I just found out that New Jersey plans to retire all the remaining GE Arrow III cars in 2020. They came new in 1979.........this was around the time Amtrak was formed.
If you look at Amtrak's Amfleet cars and New Jersey's Arrow cars they resemble each other very much.
Do you know about Metro North? (formerly New York Central Railroad). There's some very interesting history about that line too.
@@milestone_achiever4634 I'm from Long Island, so I'm familiar with Metro North. Specifically the LIRR branch. I live not too far from a station where the DE30AC and DM30AC locomotives run relatively often. They're nice locomotives, and they look amazing hauling a set of C3 bi-leveles, in my opinion. My favourite locomotive of all time is the Milwaukee Road class F7 4-6-4 Baltic locomotives, of which none survive, sadly, though several manufacturers make models of them in several scales, with my favourite model being the Lionel Standard Gauge model that was released during the TMCC era. The whistle on that engine is absolutely phenomenal. I actually operate a real steam locomotive occasionally, too, at the Railroad Museum of Long Island.
Can you run this on 2 rail tracks or does it have to be 3 rail?
It has a DCC board in it, but does not have the Proto Scale 3 Rail-2Rail conversion switch. It could be converted with some work though.
Union Pacific had a total of 55 gas turbine locomotives devided into 3 different types.
Type 1: Standard turbines. UP had 10 of them, numbered 51 through 60, built between January 1952 through August 1953, producing 4500 horsepower. All are scrapped. : (
Type 2: Veranda turbines. There were 15 of thsese, numbered 61 through 75, built between March and October of 1954. Also 4500 horsepower. Named veranda's because of the walkways on the side. These are all scrapped as well.
Type 3: Big Bolow turbines. Double-unit versions, 30 of these monsters. Intended to be numbered 7000 through 7029, but numbered 1 through 30 instead. They're built between August 1958 and June 1961. They produced 8500 horsepower, making them the world's most powerful locomotives. And two of them (18 and 26) are saved. But just barely...
I'm gonna miss MTH...
I think MTH will still be around in some form
@@Ericstrains I really do hope, I believe they make N scale as well, but I don't remember
why does the caboose only say P
The P indicates the caboose is for Pool Service.
can you run this with a Lionel Transformer?
no.
On part 26:36 what type of NS engine was that an gp36
It was a bnsf
I'm an HO, N scale guy. That said, this is a great review! Thanks.
You’re only pulling 5 cars? A far smaller ‘Alco’ could do that. I would have thought you’d display at least 30 or more. According to UP the 63 could haul 100 or more.
*THIS IS A SET* you idiot. Model railroading is limited by the users layout size. I run 100-150 car trains on my O Scale layouts and that’s because my layout can accommodate that length.
beautiful
That would have been fantastic. Put the Mail car,and baggage car behind the engine. The passenger cars were pretty quite. It should have been okay.
It looks like a c liner, an f unit, and a sharknose combined
21:20 what are they saying?
i can already imagine that veranda rumble the rails. there's only 2 but their are not verandas
I saw that engine in perfect condition sell for $120.00 on a auction