First impressions, honestly struck me more than anything else...these weapon models be curvaceously chunky, you definitely see the relation to Collective Obligation.
Collective Obligation looks awesome, these look lazy and ugly, esp compared to the Vow weapons. These are just normal legendaries with some eyes copied and pasted all over them. After seeing screen shots I was hoping they would pulse or the eyes would look around but no. I was disappointed.
@@Smellycarl Only one of the weapons looks like a Crota weapon, and besides the pulse and the sniper none of these weapon types existed when Crota launched. But, they all definitely follow the old Crota style of taking a boring legendary and slapping a repetitive chuck of geometry on.
@@SunyataManji Tyranny of heaven has Dragonfly not Firefly. Firefly, on top of the explosions, will also grant you increased reload speed. So you could say its better
Chill clip on the sniper is pretty damn good with Facet of Command. Unlimited ammo and chill clip up time which means alot of shatters and you can pair it with a damage perk in the right column
I’m absolutely in LOVE with the wave frame sword concept. I landed the wave frame with the riskrunner effect on it and it absolutely annihilates rooms.
Big fun roll on the glaive is destabilizing rounds combined with triton vice. The volatile procs before the explosion on kill which then goes off and cleans up the whole room.
honestly nothing feels worth grinding for besides the bow and maybe the sniper for a really specific build. no point in getting the smg for pve since rufus literally exists and the pulse, just grab adhortative AND FOR THE SWORD , adclear swords suck (+ falling guillotine and slammer literally exist) AND FOR THE GLAIVE, its fine but like nezarec whisper, lubraes ruin and the season of the seraph glaives clear by a mile.
don't sleep on shoot to loot on the bow. you already get juicey damage with voltshot. being able also snag ammo and orbs with this range weapon is very nice for end-game content like especially raids where it's split locations and you are busy doing mechanics. easy shot from cross the map to pick up heavy is a life-saver
visually i’m kinda disappointed by these weapons :( thought the big conclusion’s raid we’ve been waiting 10 years for would have some more flair and a little better design. season of arrival had wayyyy better seasonal weapon designs even (especially for witness theme)
I've honestly given up on getting new weapon models at this point, if raid weapons can't even get a new look besides a ball sack hanging off a sidearm than we're not getting shit
Honestly I'm just not seeing any hype for this raid. They made it too hard, even my clan of hardcores don't like running it. Plus I'm not seeing nothing too special on these weapons.
The sniper with chill clip freezes in two shots, using facet of command fragment reloads weapons when you freeze or suppress targets with no cooldown either. Going for chill clip explosive payload you could probably empty reserves in a damage phase without reloading
Prismatic, Facet of Command, Chill Clip, Bait and switch might let you do no reload full ammo dump on the sniper. Facet of command lets you dump 2 tailed fox without needing to reload. it has no cooldown atm.
No auto rifle? No handcannon? No machine gun? No grenade launchers? No rocket launchers? Dam… on top of the armor looking like hot dogshit there isn’t a lot of weapons I care about outside the bow and smg. I really thing the exotic is cool but I highly doubt I’ll ever have the rng to get that shit.
just an fyi, that sniper is the only kinetic sniper with quick draw snap, and can also get very high stability. If others realize this, it could very well take over.
There are reports that chill clip on the sniper procs the fragment that relosds all equipped weapons on stasis shatters. If thats the case, the weapon is actually a godtier DPS weapon.
my onl thing is. whats the point of using chaos reshaped if you can proc bait n switch or others in like 1/3 the time it takes for it to ramp. 24 seconds into damage phase is worthless tbh
Nah idc I NEED THAT GLAIVE. I’m a glaive enthusiast when I finally saw a possible replacement for my Lubrae’s Ruin I knew I had to get my hands on it. Been looking for an actually cool void glaive. For me personally I like to run a perk that reloads the magazine. So Grave Robber or Reconstruction in that first column is what I’m looking at. Second perk has to be a damage booster. Or atleast something that can kill a lot of enemies. So I’m looking at either Vorpal Weapon or Destabilization Rounds. I need this thing. Can’t wait to run the raid.
Perfect. Already have the smg & bow crafted. And 2-3 patterns on all the other salvations edge weapons. Thanks to all the deepsight harmonizers från last season that i didn't need to use because i already have all weapons up to The Final Shape crafted.
I haven't seen anybody say this but are we sure that euphony getting extra traits isn't just a typo and its supposed to be the standard increases adept weapon extra trait chance that exists for every raid that has craftable weapons now except salvations edge
As a glaive user in PvP, the raid glaive's stats really intrigued me. I never got a Greasy Luck with Impulse-Unstoppable and seeing as this raid glaive is craftable I will grind until I have all patterns needed for the glaive. I just need a TTK upgrade to Unexpected Resurgence.
So the glave that looks like, ressonance into a weapon, isn't a darknees type weapon? Instead it is void like we don't have that already in the game. There was a perfect chance to have it be Stasis or Strand. Why can't they make a darkness glave that isn't exotic?
With all this wave frame stuff happening. I want a wave frame glaive now. Hot damn. And it would shoot in the same style as someone who is trying to splash people in a kayak with the oar.
Ive done 3 encounters in the raid, and my one weapon drop was voltshot dragonfly bow :) it is absolutely incredible guys, the raid will be a tough LFG but this thing is worth it
The bow and the resonant shader are the only interesting things from the raid for me. The armor would've been cool if they just kept a light and a dark set, instead of mashing them together. It's "unique" in the worst way possible. Glaives snipers and swords are just too hard to make feel unique, same with bows, but voltshot carries it, they didn't really learn their lesson from warlords. The sword has potential but ik id stop using it after the novelty ends. But i never planned to raid anyways since they added surges (and lfgs are just way too "special") so lucky me
The first 3 encounters really aren't too bad. The 4th completely broke my brain though. Finally understood it after spending a few hours watching videos though. You got it.
Not gonna lie, the weapon models are a bit underwhelming. A very similar case as RoN weapon where Bungie took the default weapon model for lets say a pulse rifle and slapped on a fancy external cover and scope on them. They dont look bad but considering the sheer cooking Bungie did in this DLC, again, the models are a bit underwhelming. I suppose VotD weapons spoiled me. Those models are peak raid weapon design.
I’ll probably find myself learning each encounter individually with lfg groups, because even just WATCHING the Verity encounter fried my stupid little adhd brain. The rest I can learn, they don’t look too difficult once it’s been figured out. Verity is out.
Looking forward to playing this DLC. Just got it today and gotta wait to get home to play. Unfortunately just like every raid in this game I'll never be able to play it. But that's fine, I'm more so excited to get my hands on the Prismatic craziness
Would be cool to have seen the names of the weapons on screen as he was saying them so Cross’ pronunciation doesn’t sound like gibberish. For next time, editors.
First impressions, honestly struck me more than anything else...these weapon models be curvaceously chunky, you definitely see the relation to Collective Obligation.
Collective Obligation looks awesome, these look lazy and ugly, esp compared to the Vow weapons. These are just normal legendaries with some eyes copied and pasted all over them. After seeing screen shots I was hoping they would pulse or the eyes would look around but no. I was disappointed.
These are literally the crota weapons rewrapped
The pulse is so.... damn ugly
It looks like it has been pancaked
@@Smellycarl Only one of the weapons looks like a Crota weapon, and besides the pulse and the sniper none of these weapon types existed when Crota launched. But, they all definitely follow the old Crota style of taking a boring legendary and slapping a repetitive chuck of geometry on.
@@atomic_wait I've officially given up on new legendary weapon models. Witch Queen was the last time
The pulse rifle with fire fly and incandescent is amazing
Same roll I got last night. Love it.
if you like bows, Tyranny of Heaven has the same roll (Last Wish)
@@SunyataManji Tyranny of heaven has Dragonfly not Firefly. Firefly, on top of the explosions, will also grant you increased reload speed. So you could say its better
@@synth3431 smaller and weaker explosion, positive and negatives to both combinations
Can you help me with the raid
since we have legendary Sunshot (Zaouli) and now legendary Trinity Ghoul with the new bow, Im waiting for a legendary Graviton Lance
Doom of chelchis 😂
Um briars love Is pretty a legend graviton
Elsie's rifle?
They could definitely drop a void 2 burst in the future now which would be pretty crazy
Controlled demolition with destabilizing rounds?
My salvation is edge'd
Erm, what the sigma?
*starts mewing*
Oh lord
How original you little 8 year old cuuuhck
Everyone is a gotdamn comedian these days.
Chill clip on the sniper is pretty damn good with Facet of Command. Unlimited ammo and chill clip up time which means alot of shatters and you can pair it with a damage perk in the right column
Unlimited ammo?
Snipers can kick rocks
@@christiand5954 well as long as you have the reserve ammo
so not unlimited
1:04 Origin trait
1:27 Chaos reshaped (new perk)
2:34 Critical Anomaly (sniper)
3:23 Imminence (smg)
4:14 Non-Denouement (bow)
5:12 Forthcoming Deviance (glaive)
6:10 Nullify (pulse)
7:00 Summum Bonum (sword)
I’m absolutely in LOVE with the wave frame sword concept. I landed the wave frame with the riskrunner effect on it and it absolutely annihilates rooms.
Something maybe worth mentioning is that the Strand SMG with Firefly can fill up both Transcendence bars while add-clearing
I’m actually shocked that Cross pronounced the bow’s name correctly
Cross is secretly French
@@pumpking1278 I’m pretty sure he’s originally from Louisiana (I think) so that tracks
Do you get access to all previous content if you buy final shape?
Big fun roll on the glaive is destabilizing rounds combined with triton vice. The volatile procs before the explosion on kill which then goes off and cleans up the whole room.
honestly nothing feels worth grinding for besides the bow and maybe the sniper for a really specific build. no point in getting the smg for pve since rufus literally exists and the pulse, just grab adhortative AND FOR THE SWORD , adclear swords suck (+ falling guillotine and slammer literally exist) AND FOR THE GLAIVE, its fine but like nezarec whisper, lubraes ruin and the season of the seraph glaives clear by a mile.
don't sleep on shoot to loot on the bow. you already get juicey damage with voltshot. being able also snag ammo and orbs with this range weapon is very nice for end-game content like especially raids where it's split locations and you are busy doing mechanics. easy shot from cross the map to pick up heavy is a life-saver
visually i’m kinda disappointed by these weapons :( thought the big conclusion’s raid we’ve been waiting 10 years for would have some more flair and a little better design. season of arrival had wayyyy better seasonal weapon designs even (especially for witness theme)
I've honestly given up on getting new weapon models at this point, if raid weapons can't even get a new look besides a ball sack hanging off a sidearm than we're not getting shit
Honestly I'm just not seeing any hype for this raid. They made it too hard, even my clan of hardcores don't like running it. Plus I'm not seeing nothing too special on these weapons.
Shoutout to the Hunter cloak going absolute bananas with that wave frame sword
An arc bow with volt shot. That is amazing. I love my trinity but opening up that exotic slot for something just as good is perfect 😎 ⚡️
Does Deconstruct give the sword ammo out of thin air? That would be crazy if so
I absolutely love Nullify, its honestly the perfect legendary pulse I have been looking for.
Give us a top slot glaive so we can have all pokey stick loadouts.
Cross, are you going to post a review on the chain reaction shotgun?
She salvation’s my edge till I final shape
What arms were those on the titan in the beginning
The sniper with chill clip freezes in two shots, using facet of command fragment reloads weapons when you freeze or suppress targets with no cooldown either.
Going for chill clip explosive payload you could probably empty reserves in a damage phase without reloading
Definitely interested in the sword, especially with how deconstruct works on it considering it now “only” pulls from reserves.
Prismatic, Facet of Command, Chill Clip, Bait and switch might let you do no reload full ammo dump on the sniper. Facet of command lets you dump 2 tailed fox without needing to reload. it has no cooldown atm.
I wonder how deconstruct will act on a sword, since the change now takes from reserves and swords.. dont really have reserves?
No auto rifle? No handcannon? No machine gun? No grenade launchers? No rocket launchers? Dam… on top of the armor looking like hot dogshit there isn’t a lot of weapons I care about outside the bow and smg. I really thing the exotic is cool but I highly doubt I’ll ever have the rng to get that shit.
just an fyi, that sniper is the only kinetic sniper with quick draw snap, and can also get very high stability. If others realize this, it could very well take over.
How does deconstruct work on the sword? Like what does it do?
I have a chain reaction graverobber roll for the glaive it's quite enjoyable to use
Being new and seeing that I have some of these weapons makes the grind not that bad
There are reports that chill clip on the sniper procs the fragment that relosds all equipped weapons on stasis shatters. If thats the case, the weapon is actually a godtier DPS weapon.
What are your thoughts on the armour designs for the raid ?
I love how no wat talks about keep away snap on the sniper I feel like that would be an interesting roll
my onl thing is. whats the point of using chaos reshaped if you can proc bait n switch or others in like 1/3 the time it takes for it to ramp. 24 seconds into damage phase is worthless tbh
Nah idc I NEED THAT GLAIVE. I’m a glaive enthusiast when I finally saw a possible replacement for my Lubrae’s Ruin I knew I had to get my hands on it. Been looking for an actually cool void glaive.
For me personally I like to run a perk that reloads the magazine. So Grave Robber or Reconstruction in that first column is what I’m looking at. Second perk has to be a damage booster. Or atleast something that can kill a lot of enemies. So I’m looking at either Vorpal Weapon or Destabilization Rounds. I need this thing. Can’t wait to run the raid.
Perfect. Already have the smg & bow crafted. And 2-3 patterns on all the other salvations edge weapons. Thanks to all the deepsight harmonizers från last season that i didn't need to use because i already have all weapons up to The Final Shape crafted.
I haven't seen anybody say this but are we sure that euphony getting extra traits isn't just a typo and its supposed to be the standard increases adept weapon extra trait chance that exists for every raid that has craftable weapons now except salvations edge
As a glaive user in PvP, the raid glaive's stats really intrigued me. I never got a Greasy Luck with Impulse-Unstoppable and seeing as this raid glaive is craftable I will grind until I have all patterns needed for the glaive. I just need a TTK upgrade to Unexpected Resurgence.
Chaos reshaped might finally be the perk that overtakes frenzy for me. 35% and a chunk of health every 7 sec just for playing the game is crazy
So the glave that looks like, ressonance into a weapon, isn't a darknees type weapon? Instead it is void like we don't have that already in the game. There was a perfect chance to have it be Stasis or Strand. Why can't they make a darkness glave that isn't exotic?
Honestly the pulse with ANY roll feels so damn crispy.
What the hell was that dash attack he did with the sword? It didn’t look like a regular air slash
With all this wave frame stuff happening. I want a wave frame glaive now. Hot damn. And it would shoot in the same style as someone who is trying to splash people in a kayak with the oar.
I got chain reaction with reconstruction on the glaive pretty fun
The bow having voltshot just sounds like a legendary trinity ghoul to me.
I find it incredibly hard to get excited over reskinned guns
honestly, reconstruction on a glaive is huge considering how bad the reload normally feels.
Ive done 3 encounters in the raid, and my one weapon drop was voltshot dragonfly bow :) it is absolutely incredible guys, the raid will be a tough LFG but this thing is worth it
The bow and the resonant shader are the only interesting things from the raid for me.
The armor would've been cool if they just kept a light and a dark set, instead of mashing them together. It's "unique" in the worst way possible.
Glaives snipers and swords are just too hard to make feel unique, same with bows, but voltshot carries it, they didn't really learn their lesson from warlords. The sword has potential but ik id stop using it after the novelty ends. But i never planned to raid anyways since they added surges (and lfgs are just way too "special") so lucky me
7:05
Yo wtf goin on with that cloak 😂
I wonder how the sword will work with deconstruct 🤔
you should make a video talking about what free stuff we can get from the new season, for us without the final shape 😢
Dragonfly voltshot on a bow.
Bow.
it cooks
The scope alone on the sniper is desirable
BTW ergo sum is caster frame, not wave
Pulse, SMG and the Sword are what you want. Gaaad dayum.
Weapons teams took a break this expansion
Appreciate the content drops Cross!!!
Can’t wait to farm these when I do the Raid
Woah a craftable sniper that is stasis and have snapshot and quickdraw!
The pulse with firefly and chaos damage and ad clear is all you need ...
I need that bow. Hipfire grip and archers gambit. I need it and i need it now
I would love to do salvation’s edge too bad. It’s so much of a pain in the ass.
The first 3 encounters really aren't too bad. The 4th completely broke my brain though. Finally understood it after spending a few hours watching videos though.
You got it.
@@beeman4266 thanks man. I’m sure I’ll get it. Just have to find a decent enough team to do it with. Have to get the exotic class item 1st.
People sleep on Desperate Measures in PVP. The x1 buff isn't as high as Kill Clip but has a 10 second timer.
If encounter 4 didn’t require me to remember a college Essay I would grind the hell out of this raid
I low key hate the raid loot, great raid, I just hate the loot.
They did bad with the armor the hunters cloak is a damn kirten u hang over a window
@@MrBob-nt9gx I haven’t even see the full sets but I feel like if they were goated I would’ve been seeing them everywhere
@@kellofkells6002 I would say save ur eyes lol. But go preview them in the armor tab. All sets are ugly 😭
Not Cross mentioning Firefly on the Solar weapon but not on the Strand one?! 😭
Only because it’s a smg. If I had to guess
Not gonna lie, the weapon models are a bit underwhelming.
A very similar case as RoN weapon where Bungie took the default weapon model for lets say a pulse rifle and slapped on a fancy external cover and scope on them.
They dont look bad but considering the sheer cooking Bungie did in this DLC, again, the models are a bit underwhelming.
I suppose VotD weapons spoiled me. Those models are peak raid weapon design.
“Fancy external cover” literally every weapon produced.
De we really need a glaive tho? 😩
pvp wise...I find these weapons...meh to bad sadly
sniper is ok...I guess if I didn't used HC+shottie when sweating
Goddamn, that sword is THIIIICC
I’ll probably find myself learning each encounter individually with lfg groups, because even just WATCHING the Verity encounter fried my stupid little adhd brain. The rest I can learn, they don’t look too difficult once it’s been figured out. Verity is out.
Looking forward to playing this DLC. Just got it today and gotta wait to get home to play. Unfortunately just like every raid in this game I'll never be able to play it. But that's fine, I'm more so excited to get my hands on the Prismatic craziness
If you want the new exotic class items you're going to need help
I mean if all you are missing is a fireteam then. You can raid you are just to lazy to put any effort in
This is my final getsuga tenshu
I WANT THE BOW
dude the very first bow i got had dragonfly voltshot.
Would be cool to have seen the names of the weapons on screen as he was saying them so Cross’ pronunciation doesn’t sound like gibberish. For next time, editors.
why does that pulse rifle scope look like it was squashed
Why would bungee put deconstruct on swords now that it draws ammo from reserves
Just so you don't have to reload the sword
Another raid another set of weapons i aint gonna get. Loneliness is hard😢
I want this glaive !
Will we ever get a raid hand cannon again? SMH
I have the raid bow with archer's and voltsbot
Idec if the sword is shit (i havent seen it in the vid yet) it looks dope asf so i want atleast one
Managed to get 3 Red Border SMG’s, dunno what t he chances of that happening are.
Horrible rolls on everything else though.
How they gonna put voltshot on a legendary bow smh but Trinity doesn’t 😒
i want that pulse crafted so badly you have no idea 🤤
I think the new raid weapons are pretty disappointing
Ergo sum is pronounced like ergo "soom", as someone with experience in latin
Welp lets see all the cool stuff ill never get
I tried to get cross to use my smg he ignored my email 😂 it's the only almost god roll i ever got I was excited
Damn I kinda want them all
Damn the Final shapes raid. And no 140 hand cannon, but 2 melee weapons... yikes.
why do all raid weapons have to be ugly as fuck though
Do I watch other streamers: 🚫
Do I watch Aztecross: ✅
for the sword I'd say keep a deconstruct surrounded roll incase bungie ever gives us a boss that counts as a vehicle.
Do the tanks on Neomuna count?
Step 1 is actually finishing the raid in one setting
I need help with the raid need people to do it with
Something maybe worth mentioning is that the Strand SMG with Firefly can fill up both Transcendence bars while add-clearing
So you are telling me a mid tier smg fills up your mid tier subclass even faster!?
@@JA-kr1lz "mid tier subclass" i want whatever youre having dude 💀
@JA-kr1lz the it's one of the best smgs in the entire game. Transcendence is amazing on Titan and Warlock.
@@FlashesSoccer011 it’s terrible on Titan lol. Just completely worse compared to the original strand and solar Titan
@@JA-kr1lz that's an objectively stupid opinion. Prismatic titan is awesome.