There are so many factors that keeps him at the top near 39 of age. Discipline, focus, sacrifice, strategy, grit and so much more. Lebrongevity is undeniably the chosen one.
@@shaftlamer PEDs? Where did you hear that? Give me some of those Miami PEDs because those PEDs are making him better than Jordan was at that age. And James has a lot more mileage than the World's Greatest Ever Shoe Salesman had.
And don't forget that LeBron James has played way more minutes in the playoffs than any of those guys probably combined! 🤯 🤯 So not only is it 21 Seasons but it's all those extra games in the playoffs against the best competition.. OMG!
Lebron is like 8 years younger than all those guys and joined so many superteams that the wear n tear on him is nothing compaired to the real old stars that stuck it out with their teams not jump ship everytime things get rough
@@mirzamilak2109take this one back my guy... The most simple point is that he's played more than anyone in nba history and he's still a top 5 player in the league in year 21. Hate him or love him you can't deny the amount of minutes he's played, the points he's scored, what he's doing now, and how he made a player 15 years younger look a few nights ago or the fact that he went toe to toe with Luka just tonight in the slug fest.
@@mirzamilak2109 say it about Shaq. Say it about Patrick Ewing. Say it about Olajuwon. Say it about Pippen. Say it about Barkley. how many teams did Shaq play for? your dumb a$$ is acting like LeBron is the first one to ever do it. The difference is that at the age of 39 LeBron is magnitudes better than any of those guys were at that stage of their careers and is putting up way better numbers than the Shoe Guy did his last few years in the league. He also won a championship everywhere he went. You're also acting like his dedication to his craft, his game and his body are things to be ridiculed rather than marveled at. I would put money down that every athlete that you admire are all impressed by what LeBron has done and is still doing.
@@dadthings167 i like lebron man... just all these lebron fans make me talk shit somomtimes cause they so blind and only see the game 1 way lebron is 1 of the g.o.a.t.s but he has a lot of flaws in his career people try n make him seem perfect just pisses me off you cant compaire a 38 year old Lebron that gets unlimeted amount of touches to 43 year old Vince that came in to try n mentor the young players not a fair comparison...and hes not top 5 right now....joker luka giannis shai embid tatum are all better than Lebron right now he is top 10 however which is amazing
21 lebron seasons really equals 30 with how many deep playoff runs Brons had in his career so far. Most legends don’t touch the postseason their last few years in the league, and almost none of them make 10 finals. Year 21 is a insane understatement when it comes to lebrons longevity.
to add to your point, Bron has 66670 career minutes including playoffs and counting. Vince "only" had 49400 upon retirement. So 21 seasons for Bron is literally 29 seasons for Vince, goddamn lol
@@muhammadputera6593facts bro. To add another layer Vince and most everyone else turns into a primarily shooter role towards the end of their career, so it’s low physically relatively speaking. Lebrons been straight bully mode for every minute. Next level athletic tolerance.
@@AnonymousUser-ss2qr The statement stands on its own. 3 guys have 61 years of NBA experience, that is impressive. For contrast Shaq, Kenny and Charles have 45 years between them. It is rare to get 3 guys on a panel that have played 2 decades apiece.
I need it too! Heard it said hard work and discipline, I think it's available at your local gym. They go for like 10 bucks at PF. 😂 / free at the playground.
Stem cell therapy, perfect sleep, diet, training, vitamin injections etc etc all his vitals being monitored every day / week etc.. he is doing it all FOR SURE.. he is spending millions a year on his body. BUT none of that matters if he did not have 0.1% perfect genetics
Half man half amazing was the complete package. He was my childhood hero, he had the potential to be the goat. Same with GH, had his shoes when I was in grade school. 😂😂😂
Fr Grant HIll was like the lebron prototype. Could do it all, he just wasn't as physically dominant obviously and Vince the same, gifted athletically, could pass, shoot, rebound, dunk over you, etc. His problem was his drive which sucks cuz Vince was my favorite player before Lebron became my favorite.
He is in great physical shape, but he has changed his game. His steps are shorter. Higher cadence means less wear. Relying more on skill, strategy and knowledge.
Thinking Basketball has a breakdown on it actually, he's definitely far more deliberate and smarter with the ball. What's crazy to me is how he figured out the transition, a lot of athletes build their careers around their physicality, most athletes do considering the nature of sports in general. Once you lose that physicality, it's going to be hard to adjust when you're late in your career just trying to keep up with the younger athletes with the same physicality you had. He's just different, I don't care what anyone says, he deserves to be called one of the greatest AT MINIMUM because of what he has been able to do with his career in terms of evolving his game.
He didnt look bad if thats what you’re saying. Spurs were considered old when they beat Lebron in 2014. Soon as Duncan stopped averaging 18-20, pretty much retired immediately lol
Forget about the GOAT debate n whatever….but for his body to be so well conditioned and he’s averaging 25 almost 40 years old that’s next level stuff‼️🔥
I'm not the biggest Lebron fan but I respect the hell out of his commitment to stay in game shape 24/7. Lebron can lace them up any day of the year and give you buckets because he's always physically ready. I don't think many people can say that in the history of the game.
@@KiNGMe21 facts bro….cuz I really just had to meditate that am 25 so he’s been in the league almost my lifespan n he’s still dominating and funny enough he’s not even a score first guy….I wanna see how far he pushes that once proclaimed scoring record‼️🔥
@@TalkTruth796 I don't think the scoring record will be touched for another 20-30 years after LeBron is done. He's putting it out of reach, they'll be 4pt shots by the time someone breaks it.
@@KiNGMe21 yow for real cuz he still got like another 3 good years or so….but bro how many feet you think they’ll measure the 4 point line lol….cuz these guys definitely ain’t using the 3 point line now lol‼️centers pulling up from 28 feet
Genetics is a weird gray area when it comes to being a valid attribute towards a player's skillset. Took Bron 15 years to have real injury and it did next to nothing to him physically when he finally did get hurt. One hand DNA doesn't have much to do with basketball skill, but at the same time it makes and breaks a player's skills.
@@eric2394itscrazy to me people still say this. Peds make you a monster while destroying your body in the long run. Lebrons body would have gave out on him 5 years ago if what you say is true
Injury luck isn’t always genetics too. Lebron I’m sure has stretched and done muscle balancing exercises his whole career. Did band workouts early on before it was popular. He had his body prepared to not be injured.
Did Grant just say he played "19 years?" He must be combining his 4 years at Duke with his pro career. But even then, he was always injured! Dude probably had 4 good years.
For what? Doing roofs and being a cry baby half as good as MJ was? For hating the country that made him a billionaire. For being the Barry binds of basketball? He should be arrested. I hope he is. Put him in a cell next to Biden for being a anti American traitor.
I know he spends so much money on his body (i know it’s over 1 million many years ago so it’s probably over 2 millions per year now) but when you think about it, it’s the best investment for athletes on his caliber which allow him to still be making 40 millions per year on the court.
This crew with Grant, Vince, and JC is really excellent. Love the unmatched chemistry and hijinks of the regular crew with Ernie, Chuck, Kenny, and Shaq. But I really appreciate the more measured pace and thoughtfulness of these guys. Lefkoe is also much better with them than with the regular crew.
Vince’s role was different.. VC was also no longer mentally the same as he was those first 5-7 years in the leave … VC could have been the next MJ type of player… but mindset didn’t last long 🤦🏾♂️lol … Lebron’s play style is totally different .. he’s in his own category.. let’s stop comparing him to MJ lol .. he is an evolved/greater version of MAGIC
It looks like Carter is confused on how well LeBron is playing in his 21st year they are all afraid to say what they know LeBron is taking to keep this up. That's sad
Haha yes. Hard to understand carter with that explanation on year 21 and not answering the exact questions. Man i wish they would’ve invited dirk instead or KG
Wtf, are you like 15, or just some poseur NBA fan who gets his watch time from highlights? Carter was never gonna be the complete player James has been and still is. He was never the play maker for others James is. He wasn't the rebounder or defender, either.
@@kevinlakeman5043 @lemini4k is right. Clearly you don't know ball. Vince was a beast he just didn't have that hunger to be great like a Kobe or Bron. He could've been better than both of them. He was an athletic freak with unlimited talent and range
Vince is a legend but he knows what lebron is doing is unreal never see this ever what Lebron is doing to his body training regime Nobody else has ever played like this including mj that’s what they don’t understand mj couldn’t do this he’s lebron is being physical his level his work after games he’s greatness simple wake people you’ll never see another Lebron he’s the 🐐
First Lebron is amazing but this argument is a bit misleading. Lebron year 21 is 38 years old while Vince Carter year 21 is 42-43. Lebron should be compared to people his age not how long he has been in the NBA. Kareem got 23.4 ppg at 38, Karl Malone got 20.6 points per game at age 39. These are the numbers that should be compared with.
NBA would never release that info besides the nba drug testing system is very easy to beat and hgh flushes out of the body in 6 hours it’s very difficult to detect. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to come to the conclusion Lebron is using peds which is why I think he can play till 45.
He wasnt trying to diminish Vince, but he kind of did with that graphic. Lol. The comparison isn't even close. LeBron is doing something remarkable at 39 as a NBA player. What is also interesting is the metric the graphic is using. They're going by season instead of by age because LeBron is younger in his 21st NBA season than all the players on that list. If you used age as a metric, Kareem won an MVP and NBA championship and averaged 20ppg and about 10 reb at rougly same age as LeBron. The gap isnt as far if you use age as a metric versus season.
If I see this man play this well into his early to mid 40’s, that to me should end the debate unanimously. Titles are thrown out the window because titles are a TEAM ACHIEVEMENT.
@@Kr4v3rd That makes no sense because there's different types of Defenses. During the regular season there's a lot less ISO Defense (1v1 lockdowns), yes that is the case. But there are plenty of teams that have great defenses still, 76ers, Celtics, Timberwolves, Nuggets, and Clippers to name a few. You also have to consider the talent and skill level offensively is so much better now than it ever was back then, having great team defense in some ways now is better than having 1v1 Defense because it's so hard to defend a hesi move, or fast pace offense like the Pacers.
so all the playoffs and olympics don't count? VC played 21 years and has 26K points. LeBron has hasn't finished year 21 and has 39K points SO FAR and is averaging 25ppg versus 7ppg. You aren't telling me Carter is better are you? Lemme put this on you, Vince Carter played 21 years and has ZERO championships. Is he a chump? If you think LeBron is a chump for "only" having four in 20 you better tell me VC is a chump.
well that and the drugs, alcohol, cigars and women that Jordan and his buddies were doing when Jordan was around that kept him from being as good as LeBron is now.
@@ozzee5094 yeah. sure. and Jordan used a body double to get his titles. that makes as much sense as you putting out there LeBron is on something just because he's much better now in year 21 than Jordan was in year 15.
@@The_Notorious_CRG search on RUclips the nba has been hiding Lebron’s biggest secret go watch the video. If you still don’t think he’s on gear that’s on you some people are just naive it is what it is.
He didn’t quit cause he was burnt out……his dad was murdered……and he was getting bored roasting everyone, so he went to baseball…..the worst thing he could’ve done. Jordan still GOAT
Bron’s the “Chosen One” and he understood this from the beginning… hence, the discipline even in high school!! By the way - is Vince Carter ever going to be able to convey a clear thought and formulate a complete sentence while on air?? 😬😂
Back in the days 40 years old was retirement age for sports athletes because of all the torture the bodies took but 40 years old is young age wise still. Lebron with his focus on special training spending millions throughout his career has proved that age is just a number 😂😂😂😂. He still plays like a player in his prime .
@@Lionoftruth7 NOBODY LOOKS LIKE LEBRON DOES WITHOUT HELP. I ASSUME NEXT YOU'LL SAY ALL BODY BUILDERS ARE ALL NATURAL AND GET THAT BIG JUST BY LIFTING WEIGHTS???
How u gonna compare vince with robert parish thats a dumb thing to say vince was Athletic and great just the same even wen he was old .....dont dis vince
LeBron with money, technology motivation and commitment in a softer NBA has exceed his longevity....a huge credit to him in a softer more offensive League.... unlike the hard grind of NBA basketball in the 80s n 90s. When the League was more brutal.
You must be young. It’s not even close. Not at all. MJ struck fear in people and dominated them in every way. LeBron was good but he never had the effect of MJ. He is maybe 40 percent as good as MJ.
Facts he was like I know how I felt at 39 but he kept it calm Kevin Garnett in a podcast slipped up a lil and was like yo bron must be on some stuff that don’t even exist like some new stuff 😂😂😂
Is it that? Or the Miami PEDs? Or what else is it? You guys keep coming up with more lame excuses as to why the Shoe Guy couldn't last as long. I can go on and say how mentally weak he was for quitting twice and resting those years in between, but then I'd be like you.
@@shaftlamer Shoe guy never had to when he was young, and then he load managed by retiring for 2 years at a time when he couldn't handle any more, starting at about 30 years of age. LeBron takes games off here and there, but he is late 30s, and he is much more effective than Jordan was.
Tim Duncan won ring #5 at 38 and averaged a double double too, after winning the wcf he stated he and the spurs would finish the job this time(basically saying the heat’s 2013 run was a fluke ) and he proved himself right 2014 champs baby 🥂
Bron didn’t make 38 feel old. Most athletes start acting old and I’ve been in my shape at that age. So idk the big deal, he’s staying young and hungry. This year he’s more engage.
The big deal is that he is in the NBA… he’s not just someone doing exercises at home or whatever. He is competing at the highest level… a 45 year old ex NBA player can go to the park and cook everyone while looking good and it doesn’t matter. Him doing this in the NBA is what is impressive
MJ will never fade! This era of ball is puss. Jordan used to actually get beat up…..when he was playing. Wonder why Lebron has so much longevity……u can barely touch the guy with the ball!
@@jham5595 I see MJ as Elgin Baylor during his time or Dr J during his time. Great moves. Entertaining. Sold shoes. You need tangible accomplishments like 11 rings of Russell's or half the record book like Wilt. Marketing flash lasts only while it's happening not after.
@@RG-ct6qz so MJ is just a marketing flash? …….yea ok you have no idea what your talking about. MJ was the best ever……period. Guy was a killer. We will never see a man play the game like he did…..
It’s a very weak testing regimen maybe like 3 times a year and a drug like hgh flushes out of the body within 6 hours so it’s really difficult to get caught and hgh can only be caught by blood testing and nba often does iron drug testing. This is why hardly any players ever test positive despite being inclined to take peds with all the money on the line
There are so many factors that keeps him at the top near 39 of age. Discipline, focus, sacrifice, strategy, grit and so much more. Lebrongevity is undeniably the chosen one.
Don't forget the peds from Miami..
And stat padding
@@wubbied4575 if he's stat padding at least he has the ability to stat pad. and he just beat a bunch of youngins for that $500K worth of bread.
@@shaftlamer PEDs? Where did you hear that? Give me some of those Miami PEDs because those PEDs are making him better than Jordan was at that age. And James has a lot more mileage than the World's Greatest Ever Shoe Salesman had.
another leboy jock sniffer. HEADLINE LeBron James, wife and 2 associates named in federal PED investigation@@The_Notorious_CRG
And don't forget that LeBron James has played way more minutes in the playoffs than any of those guys probably combined! 🤯 🤯
So not only is it 21 Seasons but it's all those extra games in the playoffs against the best competition.. OMG!
Lebron is like 8 years younger than all those guys and joined so many superteams that the wear n tear on him is nothing compaired to the real old stars that stuck it out with their teams not jump ship everytime things get rough
@@mirzamilak2109take this one back my guy... The most simple point is that he's played more than anyone in nba history and he's still a top 5 player in the league in year 21. Hate him or love him you can't deny the amount of minutes he's played, the points he's scored, what he's doing now, and how he made a player 15 years younger look a few nights ago or the fact that he went toe to toe with Luka just tonight in the slug fest.
@@mirzamilak2109 say it about Shaq. Say it about Patrick Ewing. Say it about Olajuwon. Say it about Pippen. Say it about Barkley. how many teams did Shaq play for? your dumb a$$ is acting like LeBron is the first one to ever do it. The difference is that at the age of 39 LeBron is magnitudes better than any of those guys were at that stage of their careers and is putting up way better numbers than the Shoe Guy did his last few years in the league. He also won a championship everywhere he went. You're also acting like his dedication to his craft, his game and his body are things to be ridiculed rather than marveled at. I would put money down that every athlete that you admire are all impressed by what LeBron has done and is still doing.
@@dadthings167 i like lebron man... just all these lebron fans make me talk shit somomtimes cause they so blind and only see the game 1 way lebron is 1 of the g.o.a.t.s but he has a lot of flaws in his career people try n make him seem perfect just pisses me off you cant compaire a 38 year old Lebron that gets unlimeted amount of touches to 43 year old Vince that came in to try n mentor the young players not a fair comparison...and hes not top 5 right now....joker luka giannis shai embid tatum are all better than Lebron right now he is top 10 however which is amazing
@@mirzamilak2109yeah this trash you just talking at this point. Talking about super team.. get out of here
21 lebron seasons really equals 30 with how many deep playoff runs Brons had in his career so far. Most legends don’t touch the postseason their last few years in the league, and almost none of them make 10 finals. Year 21 is a insane understatement when it comes to lebrons longevity.
to add to your point, Bron has 66670 career minutes including playoffs and counting. Vince "only" had 49400 upon retirement. So 21 seasons for Bron is literally 29 seasons for Vince, goddamn lol
that's absurd, I wouldn't be able to walk let alone run and jump@@muhammadputera6593
He’s on that new juice that balco
@@tyresejones3535just like every other player on roids 😂
@@muhammadputera6593facts bro. To add another layer Vince and most everyone else turns into a primarily shooter role towards the end of their career, so it’s low physically relatively speaking. Lebrons been straight bully mode for every minute. Next level athletic tolerance.
Crazy to think these guys have a combined 61 years in the league
and?
@@AnonymousUser-ss2qr The statement stands on its own. 3 guys have 61 years of NBA experience, that is impressive. For contrast Shaq, Kenny and Charles have 45 years between them. It is rare to get 3 guys on a panel that have played 2 decades apiece.
Bron is like a first gen Land Cruiser thats still going hard in the deserts of Sahara 💯
If Lebron is taking something, they need to legalize it ASAP. Take my damn money. 😂
Lol listen! I need a whole jar of it
I need it too! Heard it said hard work and discipline, I think it's available at your local gym. They go for like 10 bucks at PF. 😂 / free at the playground.
Bron has his own team of scientists it’s some unheard of stuff he’s on 😂.
And he must've been taking it since he was 15! He came in the league 240lbs!
Stem cell therapy, perfect sleep, diet, training, vitamin injections etc etc all his vitals being monitored every day / week etc.. he is doing it all FOR SURE.. he is spending millions a year on his body. BUT none of that matters if he did not have 0.1% perfect genetics
Half man half amazing was the complete package. He was my childhood hero, he had the potential to be the goat. Same with GH, had his shoes when I was in grade school. 😂😂😂
That was big here in Detroit. I remember the Fila commercials too. Always wanted some.
Fr Grant HIll was like the lebron prototype. Could do it all, he just wasn't as physically dominant obviously and Vince the same, gifted athletically, could pass, shoot, rebound, dunk over you, etc. His problem was his drive which sucks cuz Vince was my favorite player before Lebron became my favorite.
He is in great physical shape, but he has changed his game. His steps are shorter. Higher cadence means less wear. Relying more on skill, strategy and knowledge.
Thinking Basketball has a breakdown on it actually, he's definitely far more deliberate and smarter with the ball. What's crazy to me is how he figured out the transition, a lot of athletes build their careers around their physicality, most athletes do considering the nature of sports in general. Once you lose that physicality, it's going to be hard to adjust when you're late in your career just trying to keep up with the younger athletes with the same physicality you had. He's just different, I don't care what anyone says, he deserves to be called one of the greatest AT MINIMUM because of what he has been able to do with his career in terms of evolving his game.
Genes, skills, physique, money, doctors, resources etc, would be meaningless if the man didn't have the drive to be great.
I think you are right, the drive to be the man is next level
Tim Duncan is 2nd in career playoff minutes at 9370. LeBron has played 11654. We know how Duncan looked at the end….
He didnt look bad if thats what you’re saying. Spurs were considered old when they beat Lebron in 2014. Soon as Duncan stopped averaging 18-20, pretty much retired immediately lol
Notice how you said spurs and not duncan @@JawnBLAZE
Vince Carter was that guy too!
Chosen One 1️⃣ is averaging more PPG then 4 of the 5 guys combined 😊 👑 🐐
Bron releasing a new line of water called “ the fountain of youth “ who’s buying 😂
me
Thats a great name I would definitely buy 😂
Forget about the GOAT debate n whatever….but for his body to be so well conditioned and he’s averaging 25 almost 40 years old that’s next level stuff‼️🔥
I'm not the biggest Lebron fan but I respect the hell out of his commitment to stay in game shape 24/7. Lebron can lace them up any day of the year and give you buckets because he's always physically ready. I don't think many people can say that in the history of the game.
@@KiNGMe21 facts bro….cuz I really just had to meditate that am 25 so he’s been in the league almost my lifespan n he’s still dominating and funny enough he’s not even a score first guy….I wanna see how far he pushes that once proclaimed scoring record‼️🔥
@@TalkTruth796 I don't think the scoring record will be touched for another 20-30 years after LeBron is done. He's putting it out of reach, they'll be 4pt shots by the time someone breaks it.
@@KiNGMe21 yow for real cuz he still got like another 3 good years or so….but bro how many feet you think they’ll measure the 4 point line lol….cuz these guys definitely ain’t using the 3 point line now lol‼️centers pulling up from 28 feet
@@TalkTruth796 wouldn't be surprised that "Logo" three becomes a 4pt shot bro
Genetics is a weird gray area when it comes to being a valid attribute towards a player's skillset. Took Bron 15 years to have real injury and it did next to nothing to him physically when he finally did get hurt. One hand DNA doesn't have much to do with basketball skill, but at the same time it makes and breaks a player's skills.
He’s taking peds my guy
Well said! Sometimes saying that discredits the hardwork he put in for years
@@eric2394When you have a chance, tell us your proof. Thanks 🙏🏿
@@eric2394itscrazy to me people still say this. Peds make you a monster while destroying your body in the long run. Lebrons body would have gave out on him 5 years ago if what you say is true
Injury luck isn’t always genetics too. Lebron I’m sure has stretched and done muscle balancing exercises his whole career. Did band workouts early on before it was popular. He had his body prepared to not be injured.
Did Grant just say he played "19 years?" He must be combining his 4 years at Duke with his pro career. But even then, he was always injured! Dude probably had 4 good years.
bron is a role model for any human being period! like it or not
Put down the Crack pipe up. Mfer is roided up af
For what? Doing roofs and being a cry baby half as good as MJ was? For hating the country that made him a billionaire. For being the Barry binds of basketball? He should be arrested. I hope he is. Put him in a cell next to Biden for being a anti American traitor.
Jamaal crawford with the actual insight
Goat
Bron has played in 11 finals , deep in playoffs 20 years ,olympics all types of minutes
He actually played in 10 NBA Finals, including 8 straight.
I know he spends so much money on his body (i know it’s over 1 million many years ago so it’s probably over 2 millions per year now) but when you think about it, it’s the best investment for athletes on his caliber which allow him to still be making 40 millions per year on the court.
Yeah don't forget the PEDs from Miami!
Guy spares no expense to keep his body right.
People don't realize, the body and the mind are the most valuable assets we have
People realize it.
Mostly don't do it
no they dont. Most dont even use their mind. Most people think reading books is using their mind lol. @@anonymouslakernerd7214
Nothing a lil juice won’t do cmon Vince just say u opt to use it
This crew with Grant, Vince, and JC is really excellent. Love the unmatched chemistry and hijinks of the regular crew with Ernie, Chuck, Kenny, and Shaq. But I really appreciate the more measured pace and thoughtfulness of these guys. Lefkoe is also much better with them than with the regular crew.
Vince’s role was different.. VC was also no longer mentally the same as he was those first 5-7 years in the leave … VC could have been the next MJ type of player… but mindset didn’t last long 🤦🏾♂️lol …
Lebron’s play style is totally different .. he’s in his own category.. let’s stop comparing him to MJ lol .. he is an evolved/greater version of MAGIC
Yeah bron is totally different from MJ. He’s better
@@rambox2222 not correct sir
It looks like Carter is confused on how well LeBron is playing in his 21st year they are all afraid to say what they know LeBron is taking to keep this up. That's sad
O dear god not the Tuesday crew🤦🏾♂️
How bad is Vince Carter .... lmao , this guy has 6 thoughts in his head at every sentence.
Haha yes. Hard to understand carter with that explanation on year 21 and not answering the exact questions. Man i wish they would’ve invited dirk instead or KG
Imagine if Vince Carter had LeBron's work ethic. Holy shit he'd have been unstoppable. 😂
Wtf, are you like 15, or just some poseur NBA fan who gets his watch time from highlights? Carter was never gonna be the complete player James has been and still is. He was never the play maker for others James is. He wasn't the rebounder or defender, either.
Don’t let Vince read that, or else he’ll come back to the league lol 😂
@@kevinlakeman5043 actually an accurate comment , bc ogs remember how vince’s “diploma” incident arguably cost him a championship.
@@kevinlakeman5043 @lemini4k is right. Clearly you don't know ball. Vince was a beast he just didn't have that hunger to be great like a Kobe or Bron. He could've been better than both of them. He was an athletic freak with unlimited talent and range
Could doesnt make history
Vince is a legend but he knows what lebron is doing is unreal never see this ever what Lebron is doing to his body training regime
Nobody else has ever played like this including mj that’s what they don’t understand mj couldn’t do this he’s lebron is being physical his level his work after games he’s greatness simple wake people you’ll never see another Lebron he’s the 🐐
I will always dream about lebron
First Lebron is amazing but this argument is a bit misleading. Lebron year 21 is 38 years old while Vince Carter year 21 is 42-43. Lebron should be compared to people his age not how long he has been in the NBA. Kareem got 23.4 ppg at 38, Karl Malone got 20.6 points per game at age 39. These are the numbers that should be compared with.
Lebron James is a billy goat. He's a billionaire and the G.O.A.T
Yes but he is not as good
As Micheal Jordan and he is a horrible person and a communist. He hates the United States.
Vince’s suit is so clean gd
2:50 They're talking about haircut in front of Vince Carter😂
The Goat.
No doubt!
Goat 🐐
lebron gonna retire at 23 years in the nba seasons. thats his number on jersey
calling it
Lebron's gonna be in the league, long enough to play with BOTH of his sons ..
the 2 Malones, Willis, Kareem, Hayes, prolly Wilt. But the Lebron group chat will only mention Lebron
LeClutch Sports bragging on a Lenoclutchgenetics
Not a LeBron guy but props to him. I'll take it back if the PED stuff is revealed to be true years from now lol
who cares dude, alot of pro athletes take PEDs lol, u really think NBA athletes are natty?
NBA would never release that info besides the nba drug testing system is very easy to beat and hgh flushes out of the body in 6 hours it’s very difficult to detect. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to come to the conclusion Lebron is using peds which is why I think he can play till 45.
Look up Miami, ped, LeBron' s wife
Why bring up nonsense that isn't true. It is obvious you are a LeBron hater, who is wasting everyone's time with your nonsense!
@@shaftlamer it's sad how people dont even realize...the dudes wife got exposed for it too!
He wasnt trying to diminish Vince, but he kind of did with that graphic. Lol.
The comparison isn't even close. LeBron is doing something remarkable at 39 as a NBA player.
What is also interesting is the metric the graphic is using. They're going by season instead of by age because LeBron is younger in his 21st NBA season than all the players on that list.
If you used age as a metric, Kareem won an MVP and NBA championship and averaged 20ppg and about 10 reb at rougly same age as LeBron. The gap isnt as far if you use age as a metric versus season.
If I see this man play this well into his early to mid 40’s, that to me should end the debate unanimously. Titles are thrown out the window because titles are a TEAM ACHIEVEMENT.
The leaguebhas been all offense for the past 8 years. Not much in terms of defense thanks to rules and because of rules attitudes on defense is weak.
@@Kr4v3rd That makes no sense because there's different types of Defenses. During the regular season there's a lot less ISO Defense (1v1 lockdowns), yes that is the case. But there are plenty of teams that have great defenses still, 76ers, Celtics, Timberwolves, Nuggets, and Clippers to name a few. You also have to consider the talent and skill level offensively is so much better now than it ever was back then, having great team defense in some ways now is better than having 1v1 Defense because it's so hard to defend a hesi move, or fast pace offense like the Pacers.
Lebron needs to move to a different country he doesn’t love the United States and sits down for the National Anthem
Brother is the best
oh damn, I guess ESPN did fire VC. He's on the better network now.
Vince Carter was 43 at season 21 Lebron is 5 years younger thats a huge difference Vince just to nice to point that out
so all the playoffs and olympics don't count? VC played 21 years and has 26K points. LeBron has hasn't finished year 21 and has 39K points SO FAR and is averaging 25ppg versus 7ppg. You aren't telling me Carter is better are you? Lemme put this on you, Vince Carter played 21 years and has ZERO championships. Is he a chump? If you think LeBron is a chump for "only" having four in 20 you better tell me VC is a chump.
When did VC join TNT?
Cmon 33,8,9 at 38yro! GOAT!
James is like Cristiano ronaldo ,the older they get the better they become like old wine
Dude just scored the most goals in 2023 and they were calling him washed xD
Million n one genetics
It is a lot more than genetics, it is dedication, hard work and preseverance!
Vince reading the script before airing. “Kiss lebums ass HARD”
So we can’t mention age …. Because MJ at this age before the Allstar break.. MJ was averaging 25PPG 🤷🏾♂️
And was playing defense.
He weren't looking like Bron tho. No stick that's still superb for anyone
Talking about how incredible LeBron’s longevity is in his group chat? Ok😂😂😂😂😂
talking about why the nba wont investigate his hgh pepetide and roid abuse
Goat James
Nobody at all talking about modern “medicine” and the impact that makes on athleticism and recovery…
well that and the drugs, alcohol, cigars and women that Jordan and his buddies were doing when Jordan was around that kept him from being as good as LeBron is now.
@@The_Notorious_CRGjordan had a much higher peak and accomplished more in less time Lebron is on so much gear in year 21 tryna play catch up. 😂.
@@ozzee5094 yeah. sure. and Jordan used a body double to get his titles. that makes as much sense as you putting out there LeBron is on something just because he's much better now in year 21 than Jordan was in year 15.
@@The_Notorious_CRG search on RUclips the nba has been hiding Lebron’s biggest secret go watch the video. If you still don’t think he’s on gear that’s on you some people are just naive it is what it is.
Lefkoe, we didn't click on this video to listen to you
He loves the game. MJ quit twice for years at a time because he said he was burnt out!
He didn’t quit cause he was burnt out……his dad was murdered……and he was getting bored roasting everyone, so he went to baseball…..the worst thing he could’ve done. Jordan still GOAT
3*
Happy to see "actual" players on the sports desk now compared to the past.
LeGendary LeBron🏆🥇🐐
I want to see Lebron play until age 50, and he plays like 30 games a season. Who cares if he never plays full seasons anymore
Umm grant he’s beating you from the outside too he’s adapted his game
Peds works really well
evidence? or do you just "know" it.
How many all-star started their career after LeBron and are retired by Now?
It’s amazing what testosterone, stem cells and peptides will do for the body.
Anthony davis at harvard
EPOs
LeBron is the GOAT, his career is imcomparable.
Lebron is on cruise control till the playoffs.
Bron’s the “Chosen One” and he understood this from the beginning… hence, the discipline even in high school!!
By the way - is Vince Carter ever going to be able to convey a clear thought and formulate a complete sentence while on air?? 😬😂
LeGreatness 🔥🔥
LeBron James the timeless goat 🐐
Back in the days 40 years old was retirement age for sports athletes because of all the torture the bodies took but 40 years old is young age wise still. Lebron with his focus on special training spending millions throughout his career has proved that age is just a number 😂😂😂😂. He still plays like a player in his prime .
Spending millions on roids stop glazing
@@trecjaintgoin are you mentally ok roid worshipper ???😂
@@Lionoftruth7 NOBODY LOOKS LIKE LEBRON DOES WITHOUT HELP. I ASSUME NEXT YOU'LL SAY ALL BODY BUILDERS ARE ALL NATURAL AND GET THAT BIG JUST BY LIFTING WEIGHTS???
@@johnnythekid4601 kid!! Just stay a kid and go play with your lil toys boy !! 😂
Lebron could do another 5 if he wants… he hasn’t slowed down yet…
I’m gonna walk this comment back… if they running him like this he just might have only two.
🐐💯
Yeah, he's clean...
Is it just me or vince looked high as fuck
GOAT🐐
This ain't Inside the NBA... STOP IT
Dog in thumbnail?
Longevity is a fake argument.. he played 82 games once.. he is restimg in some of the regular season games to preserve his body..
BILLIONAIRE
Bruh might play 9 more seasons
How u gonna compare vince with robert parish thats a dumb thing to say vince was Athletic and great just the same even wen he was old .....dont dis vince
LeBron with money, technology motivation and commitment in a softer NBA has exceed his longevity....a huge credit to him in a softer more offensive League.... unlike the hard grind of NBA basketball in the 80s n 90s. When the League was more brutal.
Ah yes. The 80s and 90s. The time when John Stockton, a 6'1 170 pound player could play 19 season and only miss 22 games. Physical my ass😂
I hate to say it he might be the goat
You must be young. It’s not even close. Not at all. MJ struck fear in people and dominated them in every way. LeBron was good but he never had the effect of MJ. He is maybe 40 percent as good as MJ.
Letalk 🤪
NBA. Do anyone noticed every game the Lakers win LeBron the goat Lakers are the best? But every game they lose its a excuse every time?
He's probably upset w this administration. N it's funny if he's trying to make a point because the point he's actually making is not what he thinks.
All thanks to peds
I wonder what Lebron is on though it has to be more than just hgh?
Vince in his head " i didnt cheat and take PEDs"
LeBron took PEDs? where did you see that?
Facts he was like I know how I felt at 39 but he kept it calm Kevin Garnett in a podcast slipped up a lil and was like yo bron must be on some stuff that don’t even exist like some new stuff 😂😂😂
Holy shit how many videos are you going to make about this
😂😂😂
Time for everyone to hop off LeDi**'s nuts lmao😅
Mad? And there's not enough videos tbh. LeBron doesn't get enough credit and we will never see this again.
You mad
@@bobjoe5937 I don't need weekly updates on Lebron's age
That's because he rested on defense for the last 5 years.
Is it that? Or the Miami PEDs? Or what else is it? You guys keep coming up with more lame excuses as to why the Shoe Guy couldn't last as long. I can go on and say how mentally weak he was for quitting twice and resting those years in between, but then I'd be like you.
@@The_Notorious_CRG always great to have some idiot zoomer talk about history.
@@The_Notorious_CRG mentally weak says the fan of the bum known for flopping and asking for help. Filthy casual
@@The_Notorious_CRG also Leboy is load managing. Something MJ never did.
@@shaftlamer Shoe guy never had to when he was young, and then he load managed by retiring for 2 years at a time when he couldn't handle any more, starting at about 30 years of age. LeBron takes games off here and there, but he is late 30s, and he is much more effective than Jordan was.
Tim Duncan won ring #5 at 38 and averaged a double double too, after winning the wcf he stated he and the spurs would finish the job this time(basically saying the heat’s 2013 run was a fluke ) and he proved himself right 2014 champs baby 🥂
Yeah, but you're wrong at some point my bro. Tim Dundan won ring #5 at 37-38. LBJ is now at 39-40 actually, he's stronger than 39-40's Duncan 4 sure.
i mean he did have a elite defender known as kawhi leonard and a good bench basically good core tbh and good counter to everything miami threw at them
Wtf does that have to do with anything? Nobody has ever played as good as lebron at this age
@@hk07promotions only difference is Bron hasn’t won a real ring at the age of 37-40 , he ain’t winning one this year either
@@andresdelportillo99172020 held an nba finals no ?
how's Vince not the goat?
Lebron will have another record for being the oldest nba player avg 20 plus more points per game😂
Bron didn’t make 38 feel old. Most athletes start acting old and I’ve been in my shape at that age. So idk the big deal, he’s staying young and hungry. This year he’s more engage.
The big deal is that he is in the NBA… he’s not just someone doing exercises at home or whatever. He is competing at the highest level… a 45 year old ex NBA player can go to the park and cook everyone while looking good and it doesn’t matter. Him doing this in the NBA is what is impressive
Sachafierce inside of beyonce wants him
MJ aura fading fast.
MJ will never fade! This era of ball is puss. Jordan used to actually get beat up…..when he was playing. Wonder why Lebron has so much longevity……u can barely touch the guy with the ball!
@@jham5595 I see MJ as Elgin Baylor during his time or Dr J during his time. Great moves. Entertaining. Sold shoes. You need tangible accomplishments like 11 rings of Russell's or half the record book like Wilt. Marketing flash lasts only while it's happening not after.
@@RG-ct6qz so MJ is just a marketing flash? …….yea ok you have no idea what your talking about. MJ was the best ever……period. Guy was a killer. We will never see a man play the game like he did…..
Pretty Efficient Display.
Do NBA players even get PED tested?
It’s a very weak testing regimen maybe like 3 times a year and a drug like hgh flushes out of the body within 6 hours so it’s really difficult to get caught and hgh can only be caught by blood testing and nba often does iron drug testing. This is why hardly any players ever test positive despite being inclined to take peds with all the money on the line
F😂ake Old Goat Media is Trying so hard to fools us Lol