Saber Class (Full Breakdown/Analysis)

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Комментарии • 189

  • @zagartolagonda
    @zagartolagonda 5 лет назад +35

    A starship review!!! I’ve missed these, in amongst all the live chats a disco reviews

  • @LordBloodraven
    @LordBloodraven 5 лет назад +2

    The canon length is 190 meters, but the concept of a ship-class having varying lengths is something that happens with real world navy vessels due to modifications ordered when the ship was first laid down and post launching modifications ordered by the commanding officer or Defense Department. For example, the USS Missouri underwent many modifications post-World War II that increased it's water displacement, thus altering its length at the waterline.

  • @WakeRoberts
    @WakeRoberts 5 лет назад +2

    I always envisioned the Saber Class as a short/mid range patrol vessel working largely in concert with the Defiant Class, perhaps in squadrons or wolfpacks during tactical operations. I'm glad you guys mentioned it, because I definitely see the Saber Class as the successor to the Miranda Class with the Nova Class being the successor to the Oberth Class.

  • @antwan1357
    @antwan1357 5 лет назад +5

    Starfleet Corp or Engineers novels.are centered around a crew that had this ship. For anyone who loves to know a lot about this ship and it's crew.

  • @pangesunagwi7683
    @pangesunagwi7683 2 года назад +1

    Loved the Sabre class ever since reading the books Star Trek Corps of Engineers

  • @BoroMirraCz
    @BoroMirraCz 5 лет назад +16

    I love the late-TNG / Voyager ships... Intrepid, Nova, Prometheus, Saber... all belong to the best ships of Trek!

  • @PsychoStreak
    @PsychoStreak 5 лет назад +1

    The Sabre is the star of the SCE (AKA Star Trek Corps of Engineers) book series in the form of the USS DaVinci.
    In that series, the Sabre is a tough, go anywhere do almost anything ship that's probably a little too small for what's asked of it, but they make do.
    Fans of Ensign Sonya Gomez (TNG - The one that spilled hot chocolate on herself and Picard) may want to check out the series, as she's one of the main characters.
    I like the design, but I think the lower part of the secondary hull is lacking a little something - a shuttle bay or aft weapons or sensor array. And it's a bit squarish overall.
    Actually, it looks better upside down to me.

  • @morganb6717
    @morganb6717 5 лет назад

    to agree with Capt Foley at 10:15 , i've liked the design for the same reasons, regardless of it's mission domain. thanks to STO, i have accepted it as a tactical asset for years, but, after this video's informative review, i am now of the opinion this vessel was meant for scientific use - the lacking of any and all side/rear secondary hull phaser strips, as shown in the video, quietly supports this. given its crew compliment, if 40 or so is the official number, i'd have to figure it's on the smaller size in scale. though, to re-reference STO, if it was bumped up a few tiers and on-scale with the Akira, i wouldn't mind one bit.

  • @DrewLSsix
    @DrewLSsix 5 лет назад

    I like the fact that this shit up and the other is introduced in this movie actually lend credence to the idea that the Federation is a multi species organization, with every other ship being very clearly in the mold of the three Federation united her Starfleet I often wondered where the other 130 odd member worlds were whenever a big fight happened.

  • @cdlord80
    @cdlord80 5 лет назад

    As a personal preference, I default to the Star Trek RPG by Last Unicorn Games statistics for these ships, makes them all consistent.

  • @LtCdrRoyFokker
    @LtCdrRoyFokker 5 лет назад +1

    Nice to see a classic style ship video on Trekyards! I know you guys have covered pretty much the whole universe in the past few years and that streams bring in the superchat donations and Disco brings in the advertising views but I'm not a fan of either.

  • @tmutant
    @tmutant 5 лет назад

    I would like to see a full breakdown review of the Norway Class

  • @marcusmanchester7095
    @marcusmanchester7095 5 лет назад

    The Akira is far and away my favorite of the four, the Norway is probably number 2, but I've always liked the Steamrunner so it's a close 3. As for the Saber class, it's not bad, I've just never liked it much.

  • @paulgrattan8343
    @paulgrattan8343 5 лет назад

    Ive just noticed the Norway class is missing from ST online. We have all the First Contact ships Akira, Sabre, Sovereign, Steamrunnner (depending on your system) but Norway is missing.

  • @watchthe1369
    @watchthe1369 3 года назад

    Every ship is a rifleman after the Dominion War, Wolf 359, and Sector 1...

  • @toddwalker2161
    @toddwalker2161 5 лет назад

    By the way, I love this ship's design. Very nice!!

  • @richard1701able
    @richard1701able 5 лет назад +7

    This video is 17 minutes and 1 second long. Nice.

    • @Tony-dh7mz
      @Tony-dh7mz 5 лет назад

      you mean "01" second long

    • @richard1701able
      @richard1701able 5 лет назад

      @@Tony-dh7mz Only if it makes you happy. Will it make you happy?

    • @Tony-dh7mz
      @Tony-dh7mz 5 лет назад +1

      Yes, yes, it would make me happy,
      Do not evoke the nerd rage!
      For like a thousand suns!

    • @richard1701able
      @richard1701able 5 лет назад

      @@Tony-dh7mz You've evoked the nerd love and it does burn bright. I would do anything to make you happy.
      Therefore:
      This video is 17 minutes and 01 second long. Nice.

    • @Tony-dh7mz
      @Tony-dh7mz 5 лет назад

      👍

  • @wingsabre
    @wingsabre 5 лет назад

    This feels like a Miranda replacement

  • @therealjoker9027
    @therealjoker9027 5 лет назад

    She's I good ship that grows on you, if I was on bord a saber I'll be like Ben Sisko in ds9.

  • @Evershear
    @Evershear 5 лет назад +1

    it seem to have too many escape pods. like 5 x the crew compliment.

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 5 лет назад

      Don’t forget the evacuation capacity, it would be a shame to loose a whole ship of refugees because there’s only room for 40 people.

  • @PsychoStreak
    @PsychoStreak 5 лет назад

    OK. Which one of you *happened* to make this video exactly 17:01??

  • @CharlesUrban
    @CharlesUrban 5 лет назад +16

    I like the various styles of escort ship Starfleet has now--the Saber-class ("Go on, try and hit me while I pick you apart") and the Defiant-class ("I'll take whatever you've got and blast you into pieces anyway").

  • @jurigagarin3966
    @jurigagarin3966 5 лет назад +11

    Is it just me, or do you also daydream sometimes, how it would be to live on a starship?
    Sometimes I watch some blueprints, old footage of the Stage9 Project or your starship 3D-Repords and get so beautifully nostalgic... Do you know this feeling? :D
    We need more of that! We need more of real Star Trek! :D
    Peldor Joi dear friends! :)

    • @keirfarnum6811
      @keirfarnum6811 2 года назад

      Yeah, I want to be a pirate with my own Nova class ship with a bunch of punks running the ship. 🏴‍☠️🛸

    • @thethirdchimpanzee
      @thethirdchimpanzee 10 месяцев назад

      Every day man!

  • @orange_light_pictures
    @orange_light_pictures 5 лет назад +2

    I’d say, it’s an offensive ship. Used as an escort/frigate, that doubles as tactical/science when not in direct battle. Going on the name alone, plus heavier elements on the warp naecells that seem protective in a “ i’am going to war “ type way. I like it, and like the commander, like it more now. Partly due to more screen time, (thanks trekyards) for that and it's grown on me more.

  • @blue387
    @blue387 Год назад +4

    My theory is that Starfleet put out a request for a "escort" in the 2360s with the Defiant and Saber were the two options. Starfleet picked the Saber design as it did not have the issues of the Defiant and was made from existing tech. That explains the TNG style bussard collectors and registry number in the 61000-range.

    • @linz8291
      @linz8291 4 месяца назад

      Perhaps in the liner timeline 2360s is earth to galactic civilization expansion process period, more starfleets are bloom.

  • @Rohan2300
    @Rohan2300 3 года назад +4

    I adore the Sabre, it's the only ship I've bought (or particularly wanted) from Eaglemoss and it has a permanent home on my desk.
    A slick little ship with solid capabilities and a totally unique design.
    I just wish there was a bit more screentime for it.
    I quite like the Akira as a heavy cruiser, kinda also like the Steamrunner, it has such a weird profile to it with odd arched shapes that kind of depart from starfleet aesthetics in strange ways but there's something endearing about it.
    The Norway though.. Not a fan.
    It looks like they stopped building it halfway. Nothing about it draws my interest. It's just a shovel with warp nacelles.

    • @USAgent-gk8es
      @USAgent-gk8es 2 года назад

      Hence the name Norway halfway am I right?

  • @jimtilley1158
    @jimtilley1158 4 года назад +3

    The Saber is my all time favorite ship of First Contact. I believe Last Unicorn Games gave a wonderful description of the ships from First Contact explaining them all very well. I see the Saber as a grown up Defiant. Just as formidable and aggressive, but with the added comforts for more long term missions with the added science capabilities the Defiant was missing. I do like the partnering concept with the Steamrunner. I see this combo pretty much like the Huey utility helicoptor and the Cobra Gunship in Vietnam. The Steamrunner performing its missions with the Saber providing a security over watch. During peace time the Steamrunner would be more like an armed transport tender for a fleet with the Saber being convoy escort.

  • @nickokona6849
    @nickokona6849 5 лет назад +7

    I loved the Sabre class. Wish they had featured it more in later DS9 as opposed to all the damn Miranda class

    • @FeeriiEekii
      @FeeriiEekii 2 года назад +1

      Wish this was the Defiant tbh

  • @DshibiVideo
    @DshibiVideo 5 лет назад +2

    Great video and some great shots. I'm surprised the ship was so science oriented. I figured it was more tactical. A ship named Saber class doesn't automatically make you think of science after all. Great insights and overview though.

  • @garydavisjr6777
    @garydavisjr6777 5 лет назад +4

    Definitely a MIRANDA replacement.

    • @RegBeta
      @RegBeta 5 лет назад

      I thought that was the Akira Class? To me the Saber class looks more like an patrol ship like the Defiant class and has an awesome "think outside the box" look.

    • @allocater2
      @allocater2 5 лет назад

      @@RegBeta I would say:
      Akira = Patrol, Ship-of-the-line, Tactical, Operations, Task Force, Work-Horse, Backbone
      Saber = Scout, Science, Research, Mid-Range Exploration, Courier, Escort, VIP-Transport

    • @PsychoStreak
      @PsychoStreak 5 лет назад +1

      She lacks the crew and cargo/supply capacity of a Miranda, but has the tactical and science capacity.
      I'd say Steamrunner was a closer match to the Miranda's abilities, but Sabre is probably a better escort and hit & run ship.
      One could argue that the Akira class does it as well, but she's a much larger vessel.
      Strictly speaking, if we're treating the Miranda as a chopped down version of the flagship class, it's the Nebula that fills the role, since we never got a chopped down Sovereign. But if we're restricting the size to about the same to a little bigger, then Sabre or Steamrunner fit the bill.

  • @dotmatrix7383
    @dotmatrix7383 5 лет назад +5

    Love the scene of the Saber docked to DS9. Bravo. Fabio Passaro's models have been my favorite in the EM collection. Oh and the Steamrunner rocks! Really hope to see Fabio's Steamrunner model in a future episode. ;)

  • @DarinRWagner
    @DarinRWagner 5 лет назад +3

    Awesome. The Saber class is one of my all time favorite Federation ships. I tend to think of the ship as being the ILM-intended length of 223m (731.6 ft, for those of us who are American). I am totally going ga-ga over the 3-D model that you guys get to play with. I assumed this ship was intended to replace the aging Oberth AND Miranda classes. It doesn't seem suitable for long trips... I see this ship operating mostly within the boundaries of friendly space. One of the things I really like about the Saber is that it has her shuttlebays numbered correctly (unlike the Mirandas). Even-numbered things always go on the port side of ships while odd-numbered things always go on the starboard side.

  • @RetroBerner
    @RetroBerner 5 лет назад +8

    I upgraded to a 32" monitor just so I can get a better look at these snaps, nice work guys

    • @Jack_Stafford
      @Jack_Stafford 5 лет назад +1

      I definitely like to watch on a big screen, always have. A Chromecast to a TV for the same reason, so come across the room I can still see the detail. I wish I had a 32in computer monitor! But this makes for a comfortable way to watch as well.

  • @lieutenant_dan27lt.d45
    @lieutenant_dan27lt.d45 5 лет назад +10

    What if the Saber class and Sabre class are different ships?

    • @terryforsdyke306
      @terryforsdyke306 5 лет назад +5

      Maybe they are, for example Saber is the science ship and Sabre is the combat ship or a slightly diferant name to diferentiate a wartime refit

    • @casbot71
      @casbot71 5 лет назад +1

      Or one is twice the size of the other and that explains the different stats. … … s/

  • @Redheadliner
    @Redheadliner Год назад +1

    I’ve really warmed up to the design. I like how the secondary hull area is reminiscent of an old sailing ship in the rear. The pennants are like the Defiant in that they are throwbacks to the original series delta. It has a Galaxy-style coloring, windows and bussard collectors and a TNG-esque deflector. It’s a nice melding of styles - a science ship with teeth, as Sisko might say. It’s cool that this class was also the one given to the Starfleet Corps of Engineers in the book series for the USS da Vinci.

  • @AlphaRaptor2k6
    @AlphaRaptor2k6 5 лет назад +1

    Hmm, horizontal warp core? Rearward ejection sequence?
    NEVER tailgate a Saber class(You'll be sorry(and vaporized)) under any circumstances. Surprised the Defiant class didn't have this feature (guess having a giant bomb for the bow/main defector dish(?) was more important).

  • @JohnChandler2006
    @JohnChandler2006 4 года назад +1

    I thought the Sovereign Class was replacing the Galaxy Class as the "long term explorer," and the Intrepid being the new standard explorer. And the Nova being science oriented, but not completely a "science vessel."
    The Saber Class ***I think****is a tactical focused ship....

  • @bsmnt23
    @bsmnt23 5 лет назад +1

    Hell back in Armada (2 or 3, I don't remember) I'd take out a whole Borg cube with one shot from a single Saber (we speak "Murican here). It was easy, just maneuver the cube to a point where an asteroid was between you and the cube, then warp away. The cube would warp right into the asteroid, and boom, scratch one cube. Worked for antimatter mines, too. Damn fine ship.

  • @chrisgurney2467
    @chrisgurney2467 5 лет назад +5

    I fell in love with this ship reading the Corps of Engineers Series :D

  • @positronicfeed
    @positronicfeed 5 лет назад +1

    Apart from the wirdly shaped nacelles, I like this ship. It's like all of the 'First Contact' battle of sector 001 ships look great, but are let down by the nacelles. Also, no nacelle grid line of sight. Boooo!!! :(((( I would have removed that oddly shaped engineering section to make the nacelles work and put the deflector on the nose.

  • @willstikken5619
    @willstikken5619 5 лет назад +1

    I like this ship. Easily prefer it over the Akira...
    Aesthetically the "fantail" area is a bit clunky and could be more elegant and the notched from for the shuttle bays isn't my favorite but overall the design is good.
    One aside is a longer horizontal warp core should provide more power than a shorter vertical one. Purely vertical cores can be compact but in ships like the Constitution refit the vertical core effectively lengthened the core by a significant amount which would provide a much greater intermix area in the same size of ship.

  • @NightOwlModeler
    @NightOwlModeler 5 лет назад +15

    I always thought this was best as a Miranda replacement for the late 23rd century.
    NOM

    • @Zarcondeegrissom
      @Zarcondeegrissom 5 лет назад +3

      ditto. Always had me wondering what was up with the enterprises getting updated designs every few years, and the lowly Miranda and D7/K'tinga just kept going and going and going like that Battery commercial bunny, lol. Clearly, two of the 3 designs was apparently a hell of a lot better than the other that constantly needed retrofitting, lol.

    • @Tony-dh7mz
      @Tony-dh7mz 5 лет назад

      Agreed

  • @johnromano3427
    @johnromano3427 2 года назад +1

    To me it looks like a Catamaran-style ship, like it's supposed to be quick and maneuverable. I very much like it

  • @Liopleurodon
    @Liopleurodon 5 лет назад +1

    Still prefer the Sabre instead of Defiant. Think it looks much more like a small but mean "Don't underestimate me!" vessel, even if it's not so heavyly armed

  • @bcluett1697
    @bcluett1697 5 лет назад +1

    I like this design and never really contemplated what type it is. To me it's generic light cruiser type like a Miranda. When Cmdr Cockings mentioned the torpedo add on I instantly thought that ship would be perfect for mods like Miranda has on roll bar style struts or even a small Nebula like pylon with a sensor pod. It would have made more sense in DS9 to have seen these flanking the Defiant, boy that would have looked awesome with pods and such. I wonder if they remaster will they change much, or would people want that.

  • @xowishuwereherex
    @xowishuwereherex 5 лет назад +1

    To fight the Borg and the Founders these ships needed a more penetration style phaser like a disrupters approach. Type 10 phasers were already known to the Borg so it was useless after a few minutes of fighting with their adaptation

  • @ilejovcevski79
    @ilejovcevski79 5 лет назад +1

    I kinda like it. Out of all the ships first shown in FC, this and the Akira i like the best (Sovereign excluded). But i can't quite decide which one i like more, the Nebula or the Akira. What i do know is, that in SFC3 i had a hard time letting it go, but alas, it was a starter ship....

  • @josephamendolea3431
    @josephamendolea3431 5 лет назад +1

    They probably started making their ships flatter during the war as flatter ships would present a far more difficult target to hit

  • @JasePow68
    @JasePow68 5 лет назад +1

    Not a huge fan of most of the cannon fodder ships from First Contact. But I prefer all of them to most of the ships from STD.

  • @90lancaster
    @90lancaster 5 лет назад +1

    I'm fond of the Saber Class - it heavily featured in the Corp of Engineers novels.
    I can see it being a bit like the Centaur Class though that ship may be more suited to interception and border patrol and long range scanning for tactical reasons.
    The Saber seems like something that is fast enough to be very useful for a variety of tasks, not an embarrassment to any official being given a lift by it Like a Miranda would be. It's also ideal to keep around at short range for home front missions and also to travel in 3's for search roles or border patrol work, you wouldn't want it unsported to far away from something that hits harder - but considering Starfleet failed to do a proper 3 or 4th generation refit on the Excelsior a ship like this can pick up the slack of that out of date (but bigger and more heavily crewed ship) - but even the Excelsior has it's uses as a training vessel and something you put people on before you decide to send them to a more specialised ship.
    But yeah the Saber is good. I don't dislike the Steamrunner - I do think the Deflector mount needs to articulate though to allow the ship to land. Norway is fine.
    Sabers are likely a bit more useful than a Nova Class, and might even be able to take some roles away from a Nebula - but as a support vessel for an Akira or a Nebula or even an Excelsior in pairs they'd be very useful indeed.
    I can see these being useful in some roles on their own and in other roles as support for a larger ship or even in a squadron of 3 like Bird of Prey's often do.
    I notice it has a few heavy armoured panels on the hull too, Perhaps DS9 was a little guilty of showing them as under-powered - but it might depend how the warp core is laid out if it is horizontally mounted running fore to aft it could be quite powerful. If it's vertical then it would be quite weak and no real threat to anything in terms of shield power it would be something that could be battered into submission like Janeway homicidally did to the Equinox.

  • @nickokona6849
    @nickokona6849 5 лет назад +2

    The Sabre class was one of my favourite new ship designs from First Contact. The Akira and the Sovereign beat it out. I always thought, especially given that they'd ok'd the Defiant. What Starfleet always needed was a smaller, more maneuverable and able to leverage the Federations greatest strength. Using science and strategy to out-think their challenge. The Oberth and Miranda's are pretty much exclusively for being blown up. They needed a ship that could do what the Oberth did, but handle a Klingon Bird of Prey or a Jem'Haddar attack ship.

  • @ectogambit
    @ectogambit Год назад +1

    The Sabre is my favourite. Fast and agile like the Defiant.

  • @terryforsdyke306
    @terryforsdyke306 5 лет назад +1

    There were 5 new Federation ships for First Contact, not 4, I think Trekyards are forgetting the Soverign class, there were also the 3 non federation ships, Phoenix, Vulcan explorer ship and the Borg Sphere.
    I like the design, but I liked the designs of all the Federation ships in First Contact, the ship I liked least from First Contact was Phoenix mostly because it looked 24th centuary instead of the 21st centuary it should have been
    I would rank the Federation ships from First contact
    1) Akira and Soverign (yes tied for first place)
    3) Sabre
    4) Steamrunner
    5) Norway
    On the closeups of the CGI model it looks like the Nacelles are designed to be jetisoned for easy replacement, there are structures on top of and under where the nacelles slot through the primary hull look like they could be clamps holding the nacelles in, remove those clamps and it looks like you could just slide the nacelles out and silde in replacements. I am not sure how useful that would be on a science vessel but for a combat vessel it could seriously help get ships repaired faster if Starfleet had decided that Nacelles could be vulnerable to damage.

  • @paulrasmussen8953
    @paulrasmussen8953 5 лет назад +2

    Sorry, Nova is Oberth replacement. END OF STORY

  • @thomaskirkness-little5809
    @thomaskirkness-little5809 5 лет назад +1

    If it only has a crew of 40-60, why does it seem to have so many escape pods? Do they get one each?

  • @solace001
    @solace001 2 года назад +1

    I absolutely love the Akira, Sabre, and Steamrunner designs.

  • @WillPittenger
    @WillPittenger 5 лет назад +1

    Is it just me, or does someone else think the Saber class has a similar layout to the Jem'Hadar fighter?

  • @lieutenant_dan27lt.d45
    @lieutenant_dan27lt.d45 5 лет назад +1

    Steam runner is the ugliest, and people give the Jaeger hell.

  • @reesemontoya5318
    @reesemontoya5318 5 лет назад +2

    I've always looked at the Sabre class as a Defiant classes' big sister ship with her longer range & a Lil more teeth

  • @lieutenant_dan27lt.d45
    @lieutenant_dan27lt.d45 5 лет назад +17

    Saber class in STO is a beast.

    • @CyricD
      @CyricD 5 лет назад +5

      Team it up with the Steamrunner and do some serious DPS

  • @Talon1124
    @Talon1124 5 лет назад +2

    Who wants a Sabre as a Hero Ship in a series or even a spinoff or stand alone?

    • @terryforsdyke306
      @terryforsdyke306 5 лет назад

      Check out the Starfleet Corps of Engnieers series of novels/ebooks to read all about it.
      not quite the same as a tv show but some great stories following an SCE team based on and supported by the Sabre class Da Vinci.

  • @orutakawatenga8820
    @orutakawatenga8820 5 лет назад +1

    For me the Saber is best suited as a strafer against the largest ships enemies have & needs to be bigger if it's a science forward design.

  • @keirfarnum6811
    @keirfarnum6811 2 года назад +1

    It’s hard to believe this ship has such a small crew considering the Connie had 500 crew. It looks like it has much more internal space than the Connie.

    • @pauls478
      @pauls478 8 месяцев назад

      The Saber also has a lot more automation. :)

  • @GingerTrekkie
    @GingerTrekkie 4 года назад +1

    This has just replaced my nova class in STO and I'm loving it !

  • @jimtilley1158
    @jimtilley1158 3 года назад +1

    My all time favorite design. I have dived deep in almost every info source on this class of ship. From RPGs, fan made tech manuals, blueprints, deck plans. She is a beast. Great video.

  • @dk6419
    @dk6419 5 лет назад +2

    Great review this is such a good little ship that really works well in my opinion. I'd love to see more of it.

  • @Jack_Stafford
    @Jack_Stafford 5 лет назад +1

    I like these unique little ships that came up with for First Contact. It seemed like a new era in the fleet, that we haven't had since Star Trek 3. And yes I like the steam Runner too! It's okay if it's low res, I just think the design is interesting.
    Thanks for covering the Sabre, it is a capable little ship!

  • @fatenabu1
    @fatenabu1 5 лет назад +1

    I would think the Saber was made for detecting the Borg and Cloaked ships. Where as Defiant was made for killing Borg.

  • @essexexile
    @essexexile 5 лет назад +1

    Sabre 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧😁

  • @sailormoonfan692derekweter6
    @sailormoonfan692derekweter6 Год назад

    The Saber Class Is A Perfect Escort.
    Hits Fast Hits Hard Has Phaser Cannons And Quad Cannons.
    A Good Ammout Of Torpedos
    This Ship Is A Small Compact Version Of The Defiant Class.
    This Is In No Way Comparable To That Space Coffin Oberth Class

  • @stanislavkostarnov2157
    @stanislavkostarnov2157 2 года назад +1

    Looks very Klingonish to me

  • @DnD_Painted_Miniatures
    @DnD_Painted_Miniatures Месяц назад

    I'd have said the opposite in regard to it's aesthetics. I think it looks very tactical and agressive compared to others. But maybe that is just me. I really liked the Ares class from that Axanar thing also.

  • @dratheart
    @dratheart 7 месяцев назад

    I like the ship and though I wish we'd seen more of it in one of the shows I know why we didn't. Any ship without much room and such a small crew (40 or so) can't realistically have an exploratory ship unless you commit to a permanent cast of the 40 people which would be insane and expensive. Deep Space Nine was different because they could always rotate crew in and out from DS9 which was (Effectively) a Starbase or the fact that "these are the folks the Bajoran Militia sent us" each rotation. I'm not sure how you build that into a new show, but it'd been to see it. Perhaps in an anthology series.

  • @JohnSmith-gr5qp
    @JohnSmith-gr5qp 5 лет назад +1

    Love the little Saber class, such a cool and different design. Never really appreciated how nice it was until I bought the Starcraft version and then eaglemoss.

  • @MINKIN2
    @MINKIN2 5 лет назад +1

    Built as a science vessall but with the vision that it can easily be refitted for combat should it be necessary?

  • @jpasby779
    @jpasby779 2 года назад

    The Saber (Sabre) class was/is not equipped with a pulse weapon or pulse phaser in star Trek Armada II. I have the game. Out of the Steam Runner, Saber and Akira, I like the Akira design The most followed buy the Steam Runner. The Akira after getting more familiar with it, I later realized that it is a torpedo boat/ship.

  • @jasoncaldwell8199
    @jasoncaldwell8199 5 лет назад

    The DS9TM had that length as a placeholder that, unfortunately was never updated before publication. The roughly 188 meter length matches the flyby of the ship in the Dominion War battle (Sacrifice of Angels, I THINK).

  • @brandond9181
    @brandond9181 5 лет назад +1

    Well done, guys! I only recently found this channel, and I'm enjoying going through your rich history of videos. Thanks for all you do!

  • @jamesknight3070
    @jamesknight3070 5 лет назад +1

    I always enjoy sending a fleet of these out in Armada 2, set to the "Clover Leaf" attack pattern - nothing lasts for very long! XD

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 5 лет назад

    How would it have fared in the _Delta quadrant_ if the *Equinox* had been a Saber instead of a Nova? (It had Holodecks* at least).
    Is it capable of _planetary landings_ (I assume not)?
    How much resources does it take to build compared to a Defiant** class?
    * It seems illogical that the Nova wouldn't have Holodecks, being a long range science vessel. They are the single most versatile piece of equipment Starfleet ships have besides replicators. Holodecks are great for scientific analysis (how many mystery episodes have been solved on the Holodeck…) and can become bespoke labs if necessary with working equipment. They can supplement medical, they can provide AI experts and trainers for specialist skill areas. And they keep the crew sane (as demonstrated). Obviously they were absent for plot, but it could have been contrived that they were trashed, along with the main replicators (or all the replicators), so couldn't be repaired as they weren't made of weeklyonium.
    ** In my head canon post Dominion, Starfleet mass produces Defiants to use as patrol craft (low crew requirement) and it becomes the *Federation Bird of Prey.*
    All Federation worlds have some, and remote colonies and outpost have one on the landing pad, in a bunker or large hanger, or docked to a station, ready to launch (the landing gear make deployment and storage very versatile).
    It does light duties as well as pirate patrol ect, and should the Federation be attacked again they have a massive inventory of combat ships to swarm the enemy from all sectors.
    As well as making raids against isolated facilities a losing proposition, hear that rogue Ferengi!
    Perhaps even a slightly downgraded version with a bit less performance, but less maintenance requirements and full medical with EMH (bring back the Bashir EMH!) and a larger replicator. For use as the frontier model. …

  • @leeprice2849
    @leeprice2849 2 года назад

    It needs something like an interchangeable mission pod on the dorsal area.
    Right in the middle for the new designs
    1. Sovereign
    2. Akira
    3. Saber
    4. Norway
    5. Steamrunner

  • @manenkoff
    @manenkoff 5 лет назад

    In the views of the model you show in the video, you can only spot 3 phaser arrays. I'm curious as to where the 4th array is located.
    Personally, this has always been one of my favorite designs. I personally think it does look more tactical than scientific. To me, the compact and streamlined design, combined with the small size give more towards being a fast strike attack ship intended to limit losses in major combat. Recall the usual US design philosophy in the early 20th century with both tanks and ships for WWII: build them simple, build them fast. The idea being that a simple design that can be built quickly with less resources allows you to build in greater numbers and use those numbers to overwhelm your enemies. The Sabre class fits in with the design philosophy of being a small, simple ship to build that is also fast with a good amount of concentrated firepower. You can build several of these ships with same amount of resources as a Galaxy class and do it in less time. Plus, if you lose one or two ships, you lose less people and resources while still having multiple "guns" capable of continuing the fight, whereas if you lose a Galaxy class ship, you lost several hundred to a thousand people and major amount of resources in one hit.

  • @bradleybriggs4910
    @bradleybriggs4910 5 лет назад +2

    1 small change I would make. Move the nessles down where they're supposed to be and this ship would be great. XD

    • @90lancaster
      @90lancaster 5 лет назад

      Canted Nacelles are Likely trying to make it look like it's sisters and not look like a Miranda to much. As well as them being harder to hit side on & lowering the profile of the ship. Which if it's in part designed to be good at combat survivability is a good thing to do.

  • @everettjohnson9374
    @everettjohnson9374 5 лет назад +1

    Love the ship, wish we saw some interiors or even got a mini series set during the dominion war with this or an Akira as the ship

  • @ralphwalsh3310-Empire4Ever
    @ralphwalsh3310-Empire4Ever 10 месяцев назад

    Bigger than Defiant,but less crew?? 40 makes NO sense, same amount as Nova class to me- 80 makes more sense for crew count

  • @darthXreven
    @darthXreven 5 лет назад +1

    IMO the Saber is a good addition to Starfleet, it looks unique while still keeping the starfleet look and it's reconfigurable which is useful plus it's pretty tough

  • @thomaskirkness-little5809
    @thomaskirkness-little5809 5 лет назад

    Why can't we play so many Star Trek games any more? The Armada games, Away Team... Are they in legal limbo? I would buy them if they popped up on GOG or Steam.

  • @adamlytle2615
    @adamlytle2615 5 лет назад

    Also, I can't help but think that the back end of the canonical Saber is basically unfinished. It's just so blank. Like they knew it wouldn't really be seen in the movie so they didn't bother. Maybe it's just my disdain for forward facing shuttle bays, but in my head canon there also an aft shuttle bay door, making this a through carrier. Basically I only like a forward shuttle bay as part of a through carrier scenario. Not necessarily *fly* through, but the fore and aft bays are both connected to the same central shuttle hangars. I imagine it being a ship that would frequently be used by the engineering corps, with shuttles and work bees exiting one end and entering the other.

  • @ambientlight3876
    @ambientlight3876 5 лет назад

    I question the sheer number of federation classes. Considering Federation ships are designed to be flexible why is there so many classes? Are ships like this redundant? Wouldn't this be more inefficient for maintenance and repair? Just wondering...

  • @jonneexplorer
    @jonneexplorer 5 лет назад

    Anyone reading g this, go read the SCE books! They’re some of the best written Trek in any medium, and their work horse ship is the Sabre! Seriously read it, they’re short stories about the length and scope of your average episode. 50 pages on average

  • @adamlytle2615
    @adamlytle2615 5 лет назад

    There's a more polished variant of this ship in the "Ships of the Line" calendar that really fleshes it out and beefs it up a bit. It adds a vertical fin on the back with photon launchers, and moves the shuttle bays to the back. It's very nice, however it places the bridge in a more traditional centered position on the saucer which ends up looking more boring. The more forward positioned bridge on this canonical version is more dynamic, Imo.

  • @FF-wv8kz
    @FF-wv8kz 3 года назад

    Watch any episode of Trekyards and see dedicated fans and what makes Trek and the federation Great. Watch Season1 of Picard and get Copy and pasted fleet. Its so obvious that if its not a SJW agenda or crap writing Paramount don't care. #CancelSTrekDiscovery

  • @JohnChandler2006
    @JohnChandler2006 4 года назад

    The Norway is awful....the two pylons holding the nacelles are "weakly" attached to the main hull....it just looks weak.

  • @randybentley2633
    @randybentley2633 5 лет назад

    I wholeheartedly agree in regards to the Steamrunner class and the Norway class always looks half finished with that big gapping section. The only complaint that I have with the Saber class harkens back to the Roddenberry rules of starship design, specifically the line of sight of the nacelles. I know that some designs have broken this rule but for the most part, the rest of the fleet ships hold true to this design philosophy. This could be easily remedied by either extending the pylons or lengthening the nacelles so that the warp coils are unobstructed.

  • @realistic-location9213
    @realistic-location9213 2 года назад

    I like the look of the ship but it makes me think of old-time a Romulan ships. From back during the war between the Federation and Romulan star Empire

  • @watchthe1369
    @watchthe1369 3 года назад

    Thte side profile is remnicent of an old airliner, and if you turn it backwards, it can look Cardassian That trapeziod brick on the tail is useful for something they are not talking about?

  • @toddwalker2161
    @toddwalker2161 5 лет назад

    May I man the weapons console, captain? I promise not to scream like a little girl if V'Ger shoots an energy ball at us that comes through my station and burns my hand! 🤣

  • @dls1970
    @dls1970 5 лет назад +1

    Compared to the Oberth class, she's a beaut. :)

  • @PreistofGHAZpork
    @PreistofGHAZpork Год назад

    Since saber is a French word we should default to the French spelling. I don't know what that is

  • @MrSheckstr
    @MrSheckstr 4 года назад

    Where the Nova Class is a science or medical ship I always felt like the saber class was in industrial engineer or tactical ship with the difference being extra tractor beams and shuttle bays or redundancy in tactical systems (much in the same way in the nova the difference is the amount of sensors and labs for science and transporter and medical suites