How Did the Secret of the Death Camps Leak Out to the Outside World?
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- During World War II the Germans wanted the death camps in Eastern Europe to be a secret. Yet, in 1942 most of the world was aware of what was going on in the camps in German-occupied Poland. How did the world find out? History Hustle presents: How Did the Secret of the Death Camps Leak Out to the Outside World?
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What Did the Germans Know About the Camps?
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Nice video
@@aartimayankjha6605 👍
*Labor camps..!*
You are telling us what the satanic globalist are going to do to resistors soon, very soon. It is possible to die for Jesus as a free person/soul. VIVO CRISTO REY!!!
Woopie Goldberg needs to watch this.
Those polish fighters who went undercover to reveal the horrors of those death camps are genuine heroes! I wish there was a series on these.
Perhaps in the future some day.
The soldier who got into Auschwitz was executed after the war by the Polish government.
After war 2 there was no Polish gouvernment
@@charliesmith4072 if you don't know what was going in Poland after 2 war then stop your lie
@@annak8262 What lie? Witold Pilecki was executed in 1948 after a show trial by the Polish government. Or are you one of those poseurs who deny that there was a Polish government that collaborated with the Soviets? Pretending your history didn't happen?
As a grandchild of two Holocaust survivors; thank you, Sir. You're doing an amazing job with educating. This was so well presented and I would use this as a source for teaching others. Never Again is now.
Thanks for your reply Sarah.
I can't imagine what your grandparents went through. Massive Respect to them🙏
@@sarahhumphreys3980 they came out of the worst with the best hearts. They'd do anything to help anyone, especially if they were children. No matter what color, religion, where they lived or their national origin, they helped. My grandmother has unfortunately passed, but I will give the message to my living grandfather ❤️
@@sarahnicole45receive my 💕💕. Pass my regards to your grandfather if he is still around.
An appalling but necessary subject that needs to be remembered as much as we might want to forget it.
Well presented as always.
Many thanks David.
I served in the Canadian army from 1974 to 1998. During my service, I spent a few years in Western Germany. I visited Dachau and Bergen Belsen. Even though My visits were many years after WWII, the evidence supporting atrocities was overwhelming. Those visits will forever be memories that I can't forget. Kudos to you professor, for keeping history such as these atrocities in our collective consciousness.
Thank you for replying Guy.
I used to live in West Germany as a kid, Air Force brat, and my family and I visited Dachau. Experience I will never forget.
I visited Dachau in early 1980s, 40 years after the war. I saw many elderly people on public transit who lived in the neighborhoods beside the camp. All I could think was, how could they not know? Thank you for this video and your work to share truth.
@@Isabel-of4wq Because it didn't.
Only around 4 million of those so called victims in Europe at the time. More than 4 m claimed reparations after the war. Go figure it! It ain't rocket science.
My Dad was part of the liberation forces in WWII, and they patrolled thru the areas and he had to go into Dacau to check to make sure there were not German soldiers hiding in the buildings. He said the smells of the atrocities were still lingering there and it made him sick. A smell he said never got out his nose and an experience that affected him for the rest of his life. He told my Son and I about it, some 60+ years after it occured, and he unexpectedly passed a few days later. Bless his heart. He said the saddest thing in the world is Mans inhumanity to Man.
Thanks Stefan for talking about this difficult topic.
Thanks for your reply.
The world needs to know more about how this kind of dehumanization can happen.
I have a friend who told me that his father, a Hungarian Jew, would escape the camp to give information about what eas happening to Allied sources, then go back INTO the camp so as not to arouse suspicion and to keep feeding information to the Allies. He survived the war and passed away nearly 30 years ago.
Incredible!
My parents were Poles and in a camp. They spoke of what they had witnessed just kept it brief. Watching these videos just really sets that hook deep in me. Im 57, parents have been gone over 20 yrs now. I still find myself breaking down , balling and crying my eyes out, crying till my breath leaves me. Thats just due to what theyve seen and spoke of. They were witnesses at trials and became US Citizens ,their names on the plaqes at Elise Il. Same as mine look at them. Theres photos all over the Net. I really cant understand how they handled it, while i sit weeping days on end for what they went through.
Thanks for your reply. Wish you all the best.
@@HistoryHustle TY Stephen your channel is top notch. Wish i could just sit down and absorb everything you teach. Please never let this topic go.
Why were your Polish parents interned into a camp?
@@dreamdiction Father was a Polish soldier,
POW, and Mom was a teachers Aid.
@@henrybadiukiewicz8812 Your father was a prisoner of war but why was you mom interned into a camp?
As a Vet from the United Nations peacekeeping mission to former Yugoslavia when I was in my 20's I saw VERY similar things as this perpetrated by various combatants over there. Never saw any cruelties by any UN forces we definitely saved many from being summarily killed and THAT is the only thing that matters... civilians should never suffer!!!
Thanks for sharing your insights on this. Hope you got out of Yugoslavia OK.
@@HistoryHustle Just a few mortar fragments in my calf and shin, but I recovered quickly and have always worked...
My great grandfather was held in the Amersfoort concentration camp in ND for an unknown amount of time. He was a Dutch rebel, he never talked much about the war but as far as he told us, he was the only one from his barrack who survived. When the camp was liberated in 1945 by the ending of the German occupation he returned to a broken city, Kamperland, and was ready for the worst to be true. But his wife was still there. We very recently learned that his wife, my great grandmother, was Jewish. They hid her heritage, our families heritage, from all of us out of fear of what was done by the Nazis. My Opa passed in 2009 at the age of 88, and my Oma in 2010 at the age of 89. It’s incredible that they both managed to survive, and I am now here to continue their legacy with as much respect and grace as I can muster. Never Again.
They must have seen a lot. Thanks for sharing.
Bless their hearts. May they rest in peace, they are not forgotten.
I had the privilege of knowing the heroic Polish resistance fighter Jan Karski. Thank you for keeping his memory alive. Karski observed the German crimes and flew to the US to make a report to Roosevelt and his cabinet. They didn't believe anything like that could be possible.
Thanks for sharing this, Steve!
@@HistoryHustle You could tell from his face what he suffered from the Gestapo. The Polish resistance rescued him in time before he could commit suicide. Karski was afraid he might soon break. He was a man.
I had the honor of having Karski as a professor when I was a student in the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University in the early 1970s. He seldom talked about his experiences in WWII. Only a few students knew his background at the time. He was a proud man, and had strict expectations of his students. I found the way to get to know him was to play chess with him. I was fairly decent at chess, and played him fairly often. Today there is a full size sculpture of him outside the building where he taught most of his classes, sitting on a bench with a chessboard.
Very interesting to read. Thank you for sharing this!
I must express my gratitude to you professor Stefan. You are very professional when discussing the horrors of World War 2
Thanks for replying.
My friends grandparents were rural Austrians. They said: 'Sure, we heard things. But we couldn't believe them. This was Germany, a civilised country.' Somehow, I believe them. Even knowing for sure what happened, it is hard to imagine what people did to other people back then.
If you're interested what Germans knew, I covered that as well not too long ago.
That's why most of the camps were not in Germany. At least from what I understand.
But the death camps were a fine example of german culture and civilization?
To Andrew Allen; No. They were an example of ghastly cruelty and gross depravity by the Nazi government.
@@georgebrown8312 As I said, an example of German culture and civilization. or do you think it wasn't the Germans who did this?
Thank you for this video. As an American of Polish descent, I think that these stories need to be told to as many people as possible to avoid the history revisionists and deniers from being able to erase the truth. When I was in Poland in 2014, I visited Auschwitz and it is all just horrific to imagine.
Thanks for your reply John.
My father was from Bristol, England, and in the UK from 1912 to 1947. He said that there were stories and rumors about the camps as early as 1943.
Thanks for sharing.
UK is England
That corresponds with my take on when the Allies first knew. Dad spent two years studying International Law at Trinity College Cambridge to help prosecute the Nurenberg Trials while he was stationed at the 8th U.S. Army-Air Force Headquarters outside of Cambridge. I would love to know more about this, but my mother and I didn't find out that he helped prosecute Nazi war criminals until several years after his death when his old English girl friend called and asked to speak to him. We had copies of the letters he sent to his parents back home in the states that did refer to some of his experiences at Cambridge, but Dad didn't really talk about what he did in the War.
@@EvelynElaineSmith my grandpa was in world war 2. He's since passed but he never was able to talk about what he did in the war either.
Thank you very much, Stefan for making this video. As a citizen of the Federal Republic of Germany I think specially in Germany we must never forget about these horrible cruelties on humans. As long as we remember the victims they won't be forgotten.😢
Thank you for your reply, Christian.
@@dreamdiction- Stefan said up front that he was Dutch.
@@ross.venner There is nobody called "Stefan" on this thread, there is only "Christian" who claims he is a citizen of Germany.
@@dreamdiction Du glaubst also wirklich, dass ich so etwas geschmackloses tun würde, nur um Aufmerksamkeit zu erhaschen?! Da liegst du absolut falsch! Ich würde niemals den millionenfachen Mord an Menschen dafür verwenden, den du sogar als ,,unwahre Geschichte" verleugnest! Dies zu tun ist absolut widerlich und vor allem respektlos gegenüber den Opfern!
@@dreamdiction Ich werde deinen ekelhaften Kommentar melden. Nazis haben weder hier, noch sonst irgendwo etwas zu suchen!
Words cannot describe the horrors inflicted on these poor souls! We sometimes cannot wrap our minds around what really happened. May the world never forget
Indeed. Many people back then felt the same.
Stefan, thank you for this video, it is especially important at time when so many people negate what the Germans have done. Also thank you for mentioning Karski and Pilecki. Those brave gentlemen are virtually unknown to the 'western world' ...
Thanks for replying!
@Fascista Mexican If it is so important to you, then you can make a video yourself.
Karski is known enough.I saw an interview with Girgio Perlasca a Righteous Among the Nations man who saved more than 5000 Hungarian Jews in 44/45 and he said that from 41 when he was in Yugoslavia they knew about the camps.From what I know from my relatives in Lower Austria they knew that they were being taken to the east.From my father not so much because he was 15 years old in 45.
@Fascista Mexican Wow, big revelation! So what? You should be ashamed of yourself by calling yourself a fascist. Pero es evidente que no tienes vergüenza. A propósito, hay varios vídeos en RUclips acerca del Holodomor.
@Fascista Mexican Aaighh! More whataboutism... Good grief 🙄
Not everyone watching this is from America, so your personal politics do not belong here.
None of it is ok, no matter who does it. The fact that the German people believed it could not be happening there is the lesson for everyone now. It can happen anywhere and you don't need to believe in the evil for it to exist. Responding to someone by making an assumption & labelling them as the other or trying to make them feel inferior to you says nothing about them, only identifies you as being insecure.
I am sorry Stefan, and your other viewers, but this needed to be said on behalf of those here for the unifying lessons of history and not scoring political points on current adversaries. I promise to be quiet now, please carry on 😞
My Jewish grandparents were murdered by the Germans (and their Lithuanians and Ukrainians helpers) in October 1942 in the small forest near their home in the small town in Eastern Poland, than U.S.S.R and today Belarus. Thank you for this video
Sorry to hear this, thanks for your reply.
I am so sorry
God bless them, rewards in heaven. God does see everything.
The lord God will wipe away all tears.
WITOLD PILECKI - The Polish underground soldier and the hero who voluntarily had went to Auschwitz as political prisoner and escaped from it after several months. Immediately after he made secret report about mass extermination in Auschwitz and delivered it to British and Americans by Polish Home Army (Armia Krajowa). His adventurous life, extreme bravery and hero's death in Communist prison after the WW2 would be fascinating movie.
Thanks for the additional information.
The prisoner who physically delivered the Pilecki report to Polish Home Army was STANISLAW JASTER, Polish political prisoner. He had participated in the first successful escape from Auschwitz. Four Polish prisoners, one if them Jaster, pretended to be the German officers and escaped the camp using... the elegant limousine. Unfortunately later on during the war S.Jaster was killed by the Home Army (Armia Krajowa) where he served. He was wrongfully accused to be German informer without sufficient proof and executed without proper trial as traitor. In 2006 he was posthumously awarded Polish war medal which in fact meant his honorable rehabilitation.
This is a very hard episode, but so important, especially today.
I visited Therezenstadt in 2004 and found it both uplifting and disturbing . The Jews kept up cultural life there and had musical and theatrical groups. The most disturbing thing was the level of deceit in preparation for the Red Cross expected visit (which was cancelled), such as a whole room full of sinks and mirrors with fake plumbing.
Thank you for this well researched and heartfelt presentation.
Many thanks as always, Eleanor!
Thank you Stefan for addressing this very dark history in the 20th century. My grandmothers family persisted in the Holocaust.
Thanks for your reply.
No matter how many times I view videos like this I still find it incomprehensible that this could have happened on such an unbelievable scale. Hitlers so called thousand year Reich has turned into the thousand year shame for Germany, and the later generation were not even born but yet they are still saddled with this terrible guilt.
The shame will last longer than 1000 years...
Just the most recent in human times everything is forgotten after a few generations it is inevitable no one is sad about the crusades anymore or the mongols
Josef Stalin and Mao Zedong did way worse in terms of loss of life or forced starvation/labour camps.
It was the assembly line, efficient German approach to extermination that people find upsetting.
@Old Man: whataboutism.
@@HistoryHustle I wasn't saying "whatabout Mao and whatabout Stalin". My point is in the last sentence of my comment, had you bothered to read.
Stefan, it is my hope mankind’s lesson from war will never be forgotten or repeated once again. 🖤 Thank you for sharing ✌️
Many thanks for your reply!
Don't hold your breath. WW1 didn't stop WW2 and Putin is busy trying to start WW3 as we speak. Too many people who would burn down the planet as long as they could rule over the ashes.
Good luck with that
Flight lieutenant john ward was shot down in 1940. escaped a german camp, lived in poland for 2 years, took part in the uprising, escaped warsaw, re arrested by germans, escaped and hid till caught by russians, escaped and returned to warsaw to be arrested again by russians before escaping for the last time and linking up with repatriated british prisoners.
Unbelievable story!
Indeed, thanks for sharing.
My father and his family were arrested and deported from northern Serbia in 1944. Just as you said, they were told they were going to work in German factories. At the train depot, an SS man on the platform requested farmers to board a different group of trains, which his family did - they assumed food would be easier to find on a farm
His family spent the next year growing potatoes on an SS farm in the Sudetenland. The conditions were brutal, but they all survived. Sadly, the others were sent directly to extermination camps, and none ever returned
Thanks for sharing.
Wow! I stumbled upon this channel by accident and now I am hooked. Learning so many details that I did not know before.
Welcome to the channel. There is already much content to see. Take your time 👍
Thank you Stefan. I was very small, having been born late in 1939, but I can remember listening to Hitler's speeches in my hometown of Kalamazoo, MI & the trepidation my parents seemed to feel.
In 1943/44 I can recall people talking in hushed tones so as to not upset the children. Nobody was sure, but they thought it was probably truI remember my mother folding bandages for the Red Cross & the blackout curtains having to be pulled across the windows. I remember hearing the terms, Jews and death but that's all. I was accosted by some preteen boys because I wore a Star of David. Amazing what a small kid remembers and carries with her through life.
Very interesting to read. Thanks for sharing this Sandra.
Excellent post Stefan, it's so important, especially in today's world, that these events are never forgotten.
Thanks for watching!
This what they should teach in school so everyone grows up knowing the reason why we free.
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Yes!!!
JAN KARSKI - Polish underground soldier (Home Army -Armia Krajowa) and pre-war diplomat. He voluntarily went to Jewish ghetto in Polish city od LODZ (Łódź). Later on he delivered his report about hunger and sending Jews to death camps to the British and Americans. He personally met with president Roosevelt in Washington DC and his report was mentioned in the NY Times. The short news about killing Jews in occupied Poland was placed then by the NY Times on page 16 and did not have any impact on the Allies. They wanted to finish the war without helping Jews. In their view bombing or somehow trying to diminish casualties in German death camps in Eastern Europe would be counter productive. It would slow down pace of Allies offensive into Germany.
Thanks for the additional information.
@@HistoryHustle Polish city of LODZ (Łódź).
The spaniards opposing Franco that ended up in Matthausen were told "you go in through the door, you ll go out through the chimney".
Indeed. There is a Spanish movie about that camp on Netflix.
Me and my schoolclass once visited the former concentration camp in Dachau. Truly horrible, what happend there.
dachau was not an extermination camp
@@shutup2751 What?
Dachau was a concentration camp. In fact all the camps in Germany were concentration camps. The extermination camps were all in Poland, like Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, Chelmno, Majdanek and Auschwitz-Birkenau. This really showed how horrible the holocaust was. The “normal” camps were horrendous and depraved themselves beyond description
@@sebastienkhoo91 Corrected it
@@shutup2751 That’s correct. It was strictly a labor camp and not exclusively for extermination like the camps in Poland.
As a Pole, thank you for mentioning Jan Karski and Witold Pilecki.
Thanks for your reply.
Stefan...you have the best, most thorough channel on WW2 out there...I hope Im right in predicting that you will keep growing and even surpass other channels on the same subject. Yes, others are good..but you are as thorough as one can get. You dig deep and put an enormous amout of time n research in giving us the best information! I've watched your channel for a while and notice how thorough you have gotten! I appreciate your hard work and plan on becoming a sponsor!
Hi Darlene, many thanks for these kind words. Hope to keep you as a follower of the channel. Great to have you on board.
Thank you Stefan. One of the sad things about this is 15 of the 25 Einsatzgruppe who followed the Wehrmacht into Poland were led by educated men with doctorates or law degrees.
Thanks for your reply.
I think some were DR DR
Across the world today we trust men and women simply because they have "PhD" after their name or "Dr." before it. What a serious mistake! Always remember that Josef Mengele was a "doctor." Regardless of anyone's title, give him or her no particular respect until it's earned.
But they were educated in Germany and German lawyers.
B.S. bull s. M.S. More s. Ph.D piled high and deep
My parents in the States had no clue and both were avid newspaper readers. Think like today only some stories are allowed to see the light of day.
I hope to cover more on what individual people thought of it.
Thanks Stefan. I am a latecommer to your channel and doing a lot of catch-up. Really great when you list the books you have drawn from for those of us who want to learn a lot more in depth on your topics. My father spent the first 4 years of his life in the south of the Netherlands under Nazi occupation.
Thanks for your reply. Enjoy the catching up 👍
I think we need constant reminders of what happened back then so it doesn't happen in the future!! I am a 63 year old aboriginal woman I grew up with English people because of 'Stolen Generation' and they're always told me things about the war and watch World at War series with them it's sad and horrific. Sorry that it happened because of one man. R.I.P. To all the innocent people. South Australia
Thanks for replying.
Excellent episode. One mistake I hear frequently repeated is that the Wannsee Conference decided on the Final Solution. They didn't decide anything. It was all set in stone beforehand. Heydrich was the messenger, informing those assembled of it and their roles. The movie Conspiracy is taken directly from the conference minutes.
That's such an under-appreciated movie. I recommend everyone watch it.
Thanks for your reply.
Yes. The decision was made by Hitler and Himmler between October 14 and October 31, 1941. The purpose of the Wannsee Conference was first to organize the various ancillary departments to support the Shoah, and second to make complicit the leaders of those departments.
ruclips.net/video/bzd5y6DhdHA/видео.html this gentleman covers this topic here. 👍 Agreed, the Wannsee conference was the rubberstamping of a pre-arranged decision.
You’ve done this well, laying out the facts for all to see. Very hard to see and listen to, but we will never forget.
Thanks for replying Linda.
My man Stefan back at it again with the quality content
Thank you Paul!
A true historian through and through. Thanks for all you do Stefan.
Thanks for your reply.
Don't forget about the labor camps. At the end of the war, over 25% of the German work force was made up of slave labor. There were so many work camps that nearly every Allied division that moved into Germany came across one. It's something that isn't discussed as much but the worst of these camps, made up of foreign conquered citizens, were just as bad as any death camp.
This is a sensitive topic but it's necessary to remember and discuss. Thank you for covering this issue and treating it with respect.
True, this video isnt about the labor camps though.
My father was 20 when he was part of the liberation of a death camp. The fist time he spoke about what he saw was when he told my daughter’s husband
Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for making a video about this subject!
I especially appreciate you showing the role of the Polish Government in Exile in spreading the truth.
However, I got way too focused on one insignificant detail. At 9:40 I was like "That's clearly the Presidential Banner but why is there a Cross on top of the White Eagle's Crown?" before I remembered that it was added after the war. In 1956 the President August Zaleski thought that the best usage of his time would be to redesign the national coat of arms a bit. Yes, the Government in Exile was still existing, although it was no longer recognized by anyone and was in a middle of an internal schism, as many were questioning Zaleski's right to stay in office.
Thanks for sharing your insights, glad you find it interesting.
I grew up in Poland, about 100 km from Auschwitz. Every two years, seventh and eight grades would go to that place, currently a museum. Sombering experience for kids, I still have chills, remembering a hall, where behind a glass wall, you could see a mountain of human hair. Kid's little braids as well...
We, as kids in Poland, knew people with numbers tattoos on their forarms, they lived among us: grandparents, neighbors. Their stories served as the warning. But, then again, we lived under communism. Another disease that killed millions of people, and that history is still not made loud enough.
Thank you for writing this down.
I was acquainted with the late Rudolf Vrba, who escaped from Auschwitz in April, 1944, and prepared a report which was publicized by the Swiss government and forced the Hungarian regime to halt deportations to Auschwitz. By that point it was obvious that Germany was losing the war, and it had been made clear by Britain, the U.S., and the U.S.S.R. that participants would be tried.
Thanks for sharing this.
Thank you for taking on this topic.
Thank you for watching.
Your choice of photographic material and use of maps are excellent and your writing is concise yet comprehensive. Good work.
Awesome to read. Many thanks for your support.
Excellent tone and approach to this sensitive subject. Thanks for being so thorough. There are many angles and issues that can be looked at. In the future, a historical video on why the Jews were held with such disdain in the first place (obviously unfairly), might be informative.
Thanks for your reply. Can't promise anything.
I think that a lot of the Western allies didn't care that the Nazis were exterminating Jews. Antisemitism was alive and well in the West, too. The fate of the Jews under the Nazis was a minor issue to them. In the case of Britain, the higher ups were worried that a lot of Jewish refugees would want to flee to Palestine, which is exactly what happened. The British knew that would create problems for them, so they were willing to allow Hitler to kill all of the Jews in Europe in order to avoid that issue after the war. Stalin didn't give a shit about anybody, especially the Jews, and wouldn't waste resources on trying to save them. The US was naïve back then, and didn't believe that the stories of extermination were true, or at least thought that they were exaggerated.
More on this later.
It’s terrifying even more that it can happen again if we are stand complacent ! It’s still horrific!
Lets hope not.
Got news for you, Soup. It's been happening since, before and always will. The US has waged war and murdered countless millions since Hiroshima and Nagasaki, in Korea, Grenada, Panama, Honduras, Sudan, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Cambodia, check out the deaths of Palestinians since 1947 - the comparisons between Israeli deaths and Palestinians deaths is astonishingly one-sided - check out Israel's ethnic Cleansing atrocities, which are continuing as we speak, check out the casualties when the Brits subdivided the sub-continent of India, check out the number of Congolese murdered by the Belgians, the Algerians and Vietnamese slaughtered by the French, etc. What the Nazis did was horrific and totally unjustifiable but we have learned absolutely nothing from these crimes.
@@dieterbarkhoff1328 there's a difference between oppression and literal extermination of an entire people. You know why Hiroshima got nuked? The Japanese slaughtered prisoners and Chinese and ate them. Why Israel is so militant towards Palestine? Jewish people have always been the ones being suppressed and they finally have done freedom only for some terrorists to go and blow them up. There is no excuse for the Holocaust but there are definitely reasons for the things youve listed.
@@nickbell4984 A typically ignorant response. That's what happens when you get your history from Hollywood and Stefan.
@@dieterbarkhoff1328 so you just ignore the history behind it and only look at statistics? Sure the deaths are sad but sometimes for the greater good people have to die. That's partly why so many died in ww2.
Stefan! This is a very important and excellent post. Thank you for doing this. It is clear you put a lot of time, effort and research in doing such a comprehensive, summary reporting of the historical facts of Nazi Germany’s genocidal slaughter and what was known about it at the time. I deed, Never Forget!
Many thanks for your reply!
A well-documented episode on an extremely sensitive issue!
Thank you Luis!
America knew enough in 1942 for the word to get out to the public. I have a book, "The Pocket Book of War Humor", published in December, 1942. It's jokes about the military, but also the enemy, and several about Jews and the gas chambers. I was a history major and studied WWII formally and on my own. Many American politicians made comments near the end of the war or after the war to explain the lack of allied effort to stop the deportations or the death camps. Their excuse was that it wasn't known until the camps were uncovered by liberating troops. The humor book was the first thing I found to prove those statements wrong. The US government had to know in early 1942, and the word to get out, in order for someone to make jokes and write a book published in December, 1942. Several veterans and other adults of that time told me they heard rumors of the Jews being killed early in America's part in the war. I also had relatives in Germany that immigrated to the US after the war. Some still thought Hitler was good for Germany, the war wasn't his fault, and they were only unhappy because they lost the war.
Thanks for the additional information.
American don't want lisent polish people and evry country turn back on Poland England France America left Poland alone!!in comps not been only Jewish
Another documentary explained that while not fully aware of everything, the Royal Air Force had taken many aerial photographs of Autchwiss concentration camps. They spotted all the railroads so assume it was important but was not considered a primordial target since it was not an oil refinery or something as military strategic that would help the Soviet front
Then later some Polish escapees told the British what was happening at that location. But somehow never acted.
Hope to cover this later.
This is an issue that is often raised. The photos would probably have been taken from photo reconnaissance Mosquitos. There are also photos of USAF Liberators over the crematoria on the bomb run for an attack on one of the associated factories. The death camps could have been bombed, but would such bombing have saved lives? I think this is unlikely.
(1) By the time The Holocaust was at its horrendous peak, the Germans had been subject to extensive bombing of their railway networks. They had experienced crews available to repair most damage quickly.
(2) The range was so great that the big Tallboy and Grand Slam bombs (available in mid 1944 and 1945 respectively) could not be carried to Eastern Europe. Tnis would have limited the attacks to using of 500lb and 1000lb bombs and the craters caused could be filled relatively easily.
(3) One of the major constraints imposed on German rail operations was the lack of rolling stock, particularly locomotives. Destruction of a locomotive on any part of the network reduced overall capacity equally. This dangerous work was the task of fighter bombers and night intruders and such operations could be effectively conducted from the U.K.
(4) Group Captain Leonard Cheshire V.C. perhaps the most distinguished operation bomber pilot to survives the war was asked about attacking the camps. He was adamant that the crews would have given such an attack a red hot go, if the operation could have been effective.
(5) Finally, the only way to stop the killing was to defeat Nazi Germany. This view was brought more sharply into focus for those who were aware of developments in the Manhattan Project. Such knowledge made the tootal defeat of Germany a time critical goal, lest the German programme was equally advanced.
Thank you for a most informative piece.
@@ross.venner As I replied earlier to @Cosmic Cowboy, how about dropping handguns, hand grenades and ammo into the camp instead of bombs? A handful of Mosquitoes would have been sufficient for that. I suppose it would have made the guards quite uncomfortable.
@@thkempe- Dropping weapons is not a suggestion which I have previously encountered. My initial reaction is to consider the greatly weakened condition of the inmates. I recall an account by a British officer who entered Bergen Belsen. He described the desperate "slow wittness" of the walking corpses he encountered. These victims would stop if addressed, but would resume their shambling quest for food as soon as the officer stepped out of their path.
Part of the Nazi process of brutalisation was to weaken the deportees through starvation in the ghettos. I acknowledge that a resistance movement existed within the camp but even with drops of small arms, (and if they could be distributed), how much could be achieved against machine guns? Then what? The camps were far behind German lines until late in the war. Dying with guns in their hands, instead of as lambs to the slaughter? It has an emotional appeal, but would it have saved lives?
I have a very hard time to come to terms with the fact that the world knew and did nothing. They simply did not care enough and had their priorities elsewhere ☹️
Soon more about the Allied reaction.
Remarkable program. Thank you for your work.
Thanks for watching.
Excellent Work!
Thank you Michael.
Great piece of work. Keep it up. Truth sets us free.
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Your video explains alot of questions I had. Thank you.
Great to read. Thanks!
I never heard of a British soldier in the Warsaw ghetto. It would be interesting to learn more about his experience.
See if I can find out more about him. Could be a British POW who was Jewish. Not sure. Have to research that.
@@HistoryHustle Thank you. I tried googling it but had no luck. Hope he wrote a book.
I love history so this is the perfect channel for me. Thank you, sir...
Thanks for your reply.
My dad was an American G.I. who helped prosecute the Nurenberg Trials, although I didn't find this out until several years after his death in 1997 when his old English girl friend called and asked to speak to him. He was stationed at 8th U.S. Army-Air Force Headquarters outside of Cambridge where he studied International Law for two years, so the Allies most probably knew about the death camps from at least late 1943 to early 1944
Thanks for sharing.
Ik Ben een Zuid Afrikaner,mijn Oma was een Russiese Jood,Ik dank de Here dat onze Jode hier veilig gewees het tijdens de tweeze wereld oorlog.Jammer vir die gebroke Nederlands,ik spreek Afrikaans.
Bedankt voor je bericht, Fred. Ik begrijp het.
Another exemplary piece of work, professor Stefan. It occurred to me, by the way, while both watching this excellent video, and reading through the comments sections, that at least a couple of very detailed and intriguing interviews with the 1972 American presidential candidate for the Democratic Party, George McGovern, are available online,..and, as a veteran heavy bomber pilot of what was then the USAAF, he expressed his deep regret that himself and his crews were NEVER instructed to even attempt a bombing of the train networks to the death camps that were very well known to senior command. He opined that the crews would definitely have been keen and willing to attempt to destroy the transport infrastructure, and even the camps themselves. No such orders were ever issued.
More on that later. Thanks for watching and replying!
" Inmate in hell or a hero imprisoned?
Soldier in Auschwitz, who knows his name?
Locked in a cell, waging war from the prison
Hiding in Auschwitz, who hides behind 4859? "
This is a verse from a song called Inmate 4859, he was a polish hero who did his best to share the atrocities to the world, letting himself be captured and sent to Auschwitz, fought in the Warsaw Uprising, and after the war he was executed by the puppet government installed in Poland. I hope sharing it here will keep his memory alive, thank you for doing this content Stefan.
( His name was Witold Pilecki, for those who wanted to oppress him he was simply a number, 4859 )
Thanks for sharing.
my oma's first fiance was a Jewish man and he disappeared in the middle of the night and she never seen him again
Sounds like Nacht und Nebel.
@@phlm9038 That _Nacht-und-Nebel-Erlass_ was targeting political activists and resistance members in occupied countries, not "just" Jews *. . .*
@@letoubib21 Yes, it's just that the words "disappeared in the middle of the night" and the words "she never saw him again" made me think straight away of Nacht und Nebel. Maybe the Jewish man was a political activit at the same time or a resistance member.
@@phlm9038 Bad enough that something like that could ever happen *. . .*
Let's hope it won't happen again.
Very gud narration.. Love from India Tamilnadu
Thanks!
Another great video Stefan. It would be interesting to hear in greater detail your views on how much the average Germans knew about the Final Solution.
Thanks for your reply.
@@HistoryHustle After my made my comment I realized you have already done a video on what the Germans knew….🤗
Thanks for explaining something that I have often wondered about this great trajedy. Well done, Sir! I subscribed.
Many thanks Glenn!
The Ukrainian Trawniki men were volunteers and they were named for the town in Ukraine close to the Polish border - Trawniki. The Wehrmacht or SS built a functioning concentration camp there so the volunteers could have real "immersive" training there before being posted as guards to other camps including Auschwitz.
De-sensitivity acclimation.
The Einsatzgruppen soldiers had high levels of PTSD from the up-close and personal mass executions. Better to get someone else to murder on your behalf than to do it with your own troops.
Thanks for sharing this.
From your logical and detailed historically correct argument that you present I now understand why people say that most German Folk and the other World Powers knew something about the Shoa/Holocaust and it was not just a limited few who were aware of the Death Camps and Mass Shooting of Jews and then the "Final Solution" was known as early as 1942 to the Allied Powers - this is astounding and disgusting at the same time! In my opinion, upon the Allied Powers first learning of the "Final Solution" a concentrated effort should have been made to assassinate Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Martin Borman, and other key Nazi Leaders and bring the Nazi War Machine and in turn the "Final Solution" to a halt! From reading I know that there were over 40 separate failed assassination attempts on Adolf Hitler. It is still unbelievable to me that the Allied Powers waited/took two years to invade Europe and stop Hitler/"Final Solution" - were the Allied Powers complicit in the "Final Solution" by waiting two years to respond once they became aware of Hitler's "Final Solution" plans? This is indeed an eye opening lecture on who knew what and when they knew it about the "Final Solution!"
"Allied Powers waited/took two years to invade Europe" - I'm no expert, but I'm guessing the Brits were weary of getting caught into another quagmire, and saw they had little chance. The Soviet's only started to beat back the Germans after Stalingrad; early 1943. The USA still needed time to mobilise, so the Brits entering western Europe by themselves in 1942 would've been a blood bath.
I do think they should've done more to arial bomb the infrastructure for the death camps though - but I don't know how well that would've worked since they were deep in Poland/eatern europe (did they even have planes that could fly that far and back?)
@@hayleyxyz good questions! I am just very sad for all those who lost their lives and loved ones, suffered, and were placed in those Death Camps as well as those who were just shot outside somewhere! People always seem to forget about there could have been another 6 million or more Jews murdered outside the Death Camps in addition to the 6 million documented in the Death Camps. Thank you for replying!
Thanks for your replies!
Thank you for this video, please keep educating so this never happens again
Thanks for replying.
There were about five Swedish businessmen in Poland and they smuggled out material to Sweden. Among these was information and pictures from the camps. This material was then communicated from Stockholm to London.
In case you're interested, I talk about the Allied response in this video:
ruclips.net/video/AEe9jBwqR0c/видео.html
Thanks. excellent work as always.BZ
Even late in the game they were so unsure that on 11 June 1944 the "Jewish Agency executive committee", meeting in Jerusalem refused to call for the bombing of Auschwitz.
Hope to cover more on that later.
Concentration camp in Tunisia would be a great topic as I came to knew about it few months ago only
If I ever travel there.
@@HistoryHustle It's a very nice country *. . .*
Very well done
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I didn't pay attention in school and I remember while in school hearing about the Diary of Anne Frank these past few weeks I've been watching documentaries, movies of these survivor's. I can't imagine the pain all these poor people went through thank you for talking about these people and not forgetting about them. I just wonder why it took so long for these guys to get help why so many year's
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@@HistoryHustle New York Supreme Court awarded Meyer Levin 50 thousand dollars in 1959 for doing the famous diary.
Residing judge stated that no way a teenager actually did this work of fiction. Well, she didn't.
So sad, we need to keep this history alive, so it is never forgotten.
Indeed.
Great report!
American papers like the n.y times said vertully nothing. It was until 1943
That a paper in Demoine Iowa ran a front page story on what was happening.
The n y times would apologized years later saying it didn't want the American public to think the war was being fought for Jews .
The allies claimed they couldn't bomb the camps because it would have made little difference and they couldn't spare the resources.
This was of course was nonsense.
Thanks for your reply. More on this topic later
Excellent lesson to learn from tragic history. Thank you.
Thanks for your comment Milan!
I was always wondering why it was such a "surprise". Thank you for the information, I enjoyed your no nonsense style. I'm subscribed.
Welcome to the channel, Victor!
I just don't understand how people could see this as normal! How could people be so cruel and evil?
Most people didn't see it as normal. Today a new video about the Allied reaction.
They didn't see jt as normal, just as part of war, and if you spoke up you would be next.
Roosevelt knew but was worried about subverting resources when other places were needing to be bombed. When the Allies did bombed, the Gee,and made workers lay out in the fields so as to be the most likely casualties.
More on what how the Allies reacted in a recent video.
Very impressive video , well done
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I wonder why that SS officer wanted that Swede to tell the world about the gassing he saw. I guess he was one of those soldiers that thought the German army was infallible and fighting for a righteous cause, but then saw what was really going on with his own eyes and couldn’t hold that in.
We'll never know since he didn't survive.
Thank you. The must never forget this history only 76 years ago....
Thanks for your reply.
An extremely rich film and at the same time so concise with fantastic photos, some of which I have never seen. Did you arrange this information, thanks to which the world learned about what was happening in the camps, chronologically? I have never heard of most of them
Thanks Karol. I tried to arrange it chronologically in order to present the best overview.
Always a pleasure Stefan, great video.
Thanks!
Thank you. I have often wondered about this.
Soon more on the Allied Response.
So sad, but so true. Can't wait for your next installment.
Thanks for watching.
Another great video, thanks!
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I may be wrong about this, but I believe that the fist Allied pilot to take aerial photos of death camps was a S. African called Joel Alswang. He was my headmaster at primary school.
Not sure, but could be!
The general public knew about the camps but not about the details about them. They didn’t fully understand what was happening there
True.
Hey, Stefan. Since I know your interest in short lived states, I thought of a few that you might find interesting. I think a really neat video would be one about the CNT F.A.I. in Spain. Another one you might find interesting is Lajtabánság, a Hungarian breakaway State formed in 1921 out of then Austria.
Love the videos!
Thanks. Hope to cover it in the future. Can't tell when.
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