30+ years ago I was solo backpacking in January In Massachusetts. As the sun was going down I stripped naked and stood in the wind then put on warm dry wool. I hung the day clothes overnight to dry out the sweat. 20 years ago I was snowshoeing in northern Illinois at about -20 F. I stopped to get a drink and get some pictures. I unsnapped my down coat and watched the steam rise off my chest and frost form on my sweater. Knowing the backside was just as moist I took off the down coat for a few minutes and shook it to drive cold dry air through the barely moist down. Why am I telling you this? Cold air is dry, use it to dry your sweat damped clothes and body. Dry clothes will quickly warm you, damp clothes will slowly kill you.
Years back when I lived in New England and climbed Mt. Washington regularly (in the winter as well and during storms), I would dress extremely lightly in the winter on the mountain. I'd routinely wear summer weight liner pants/shirts under my shell gear (basically next to no insulating value on the clothing as I tend to overheat easily when moving), and that would be about it. Of course I had warm gear with me in case I got stuck/needed it. I'd be comfortable while moving, although one time I got stuck for 2 hours on a small ice ledge while ice climbing Huntington Ravine (on my knees....that was super painful), and that got a bit chilly since it was 7 degrees not including the wind chill. I remember hiking up to Harvard Cabin one time in 3 degree temps at Pinkham, in those same lightweight liner pants and long sleeve shirt (basically the insulating equivalent of spandex lol), gloves and a hat....no shell stuff or gaiters. I don't think I sweat a drop on that hike up (it basically felt like being naked in a very cool room - not cold enough to shiver, but not comfortable by any means), even with a full pack......the only way that was possible in those temps was due to no wind - a very slight breeze would go through the woods from time to time, and that was coooold. I miss that mountain.
One of the things that an old grey beard (I'm sure he was younger than I am now, given that he was a dad of one of the scouts, but...) told me as a scout back in the 80s has stuck with me. I spent my college years in Michigan's UP, winter camping throughout the Keweenaw peninsula and it proved its worth. Your base layers are less about keeping you warm than they are about keeping you from getting cold. Moving the moisture away from the body so that evaporative cooling happens at the layers and NOT on the skin is key to both comfort and survival.
When you're sleeping in a tent in your sleeping bag, your head is exposed and you actually lose body heat through your scalp. It's best to wear a soft, warm hat at night, but dress lightly inside the bag. You'll be more comfortable and warm, and not wake up sweaty in the morning.
Or get a mummy bag, the chances of me keeping a hat on at night is zero with all the tossing I do so a mummy bag is the solution for cold camping for me.
I've never used anything other than a mummy bag since I was 10 - you've got a warm layer all around you and you just pull it tight around your head. If your head gets cold, it makes your body try and heat up to compensate, then you wake up covered in sweat - not good.
@@andrewfidel2220 I do a lot of tossing from side to side, no way I could keep a hat on but can't stand mummy bags, I use conventional bag with a "blanket" over my head, what I have is an Ozark Trail fleece sleeping bag I use as my head cover, it's light weight but very warm, you can tuck it around your head/shoulders, keeps cold air from going down into the bag, and you're head can move under it. I even do this at home, works great for keeping the head warm on cool nights.
My tip, and this had made a huge difference when in snowy areas. Before getting into your tent and sleeping bag in winter, do about 20 fast deep squats. This will get your body warm, but not sweat. That residual heat from your body when going into your cold sleeping bag will make the start of your night nice and cosy.
Yep, and take of much of your clothes, many people go into the bag with a lot of clothes on and the clothes are cold.. and then the sleeping bag insulates a lot of that cold on the inside.. making you freeze more.
@@Fixdgear Yeah, enough fluid and calories are of vital importance in the cold. And another kinda hilarious thing I learned, that I never thought about before is if nature calls and you have to go.. Go.. Don't hold it in, because the body burns energy wastefully (pun intended) by keeping it warm.
I'm an experienced cold weather camper and backpacker, yet I still learned something really valuable from this video, wear my cheap frogtogs over my pricey puffy to embers from the fire dont burn even more holes in it! Thanks Dan!
A couple of thoughts: 1. If it's really cold out, maybe 20°F, avoid using a filter since the water will immediately start to freeze inside the filter. Boil the water at a rolling boil for 1 minute instead. 2. R-value demystified. This is the same rating system as the insulation in your house. Typical walls in northern states are R-38 (in Oregon, anyway). But a nice R-4 or R-6 sleeping pad will keep you toasty at night. 3. Keep batteries in your sleeping bag and pockets. Batteries don't lose power in the cold, just the chemical reaction in batteries slows waaaaaay down and they must be warmed back up to produce power. 4. Socks. At least a second pair to sleep in so your other socks can dry out in your sleeping bag overnight. Wool is best. And shoes/boots/socks that don't restrict your toes moving will allow those toes to stay warm all day. That takes care of a couple of items.
20 degrees is really cold? Those of us in the Great White North would laugh at that because you will still see people wearing shorts at that temperature up here.
Good list! To elaborate on #4, have dedicated sleep clothes (if you don't sleep in the buff). Don't reuse ANY clothes that you've already worn outside. You can use the next day's clothes, but not ones you've already worn. That said, I bring PJs and fuzzy socks, sometimes they're thermals, but they only get used for sleeping.
@@stevec3872 Ha-ha! Absolutely, you're much colder up there. We just combine our temps with rain or wet snow through air inversions--I've stood in rain at 30 or lower!
Two cold weather sleeping tips that have helped me stay warm. 1. Wear a neck gaiter 2. Bring your down parka into your sleeping bag and spread it over your chest/torso. Even if you switch to your side to sleep some, it still helps insulate you.
if it's dry, I use mine as my pillow, stuffed into an appropriately sized stuff sack. if it's been damped out due to fog & winter mix conditions, I try to wear it as dry as I can after changing my base layers. there's no way it's going to dry on its own in those conditions.
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Be bold, start cold. Start cold on a backpacking trek for example. When I am setting up, I purposely pull off layers until I am mildly uncomfortable, to keep from overheating and getting sweaty. Also, a head covering is a great piece of gear to have to sleep in to preserve body warmth. Lasty, smoke follows ugly. Just saying.
Here's a tip: if you're using an air mattress in car camping, you will need to put an insulating later on top of the mattress between you and the mattress. Otherwise the cold from the ground can still get to you.
These are great tips for anybody camping in cold weather. I do like how you emphasized the need for a 'sleep-system', it was one of the things our instructors drummed into us, "never sleep directly on the ground, unless you want to be planted in it". I learned most of these tips in the Canadian Armed Forces, as an infantryman a lifetime ago. The best advice I ever got that wasn't mentioned though, was "always have multiple methods for starting a fire". Even though it's not the first thing you do when you set-up camp, you never want to rely on just one way to start a fire. Not only for the igniter, but also the tinder that will help grow a fire. My fire-kit has a Bic lighter, fire-stick, waterproof matches, a magnifying glass, cotton balls w/Vaseline, cardboard strips soaked in parafin wax,, home-made fatwood, a small container of coffee-mate, and a few small candles. All of which can be combined in a myriad of ways to create fire in a variety of adverse conditions. Practice in adverse conditions too, and like others have pointed out, do it where you're safe first, so you know when the chips are down, you're not going to freeze due to lack of fire.
Would hexamine bricks and a Ferro rod be a good option? I keep seeing surplus hexamine packs on eBay and was thinking about some of those and an esbit stove as a back up to a canister stove
@@V8DV the fire-stick in my kit is a ferro-magnesium rod, invaluable, I also have 5 more in my pack with general supplies, since I'll wear one out eventually. I haven't added hexamine tablets, but they are a good idea, especially if you want a smokeless fire.
My Granny always told us "Smoke follows beauty." when we complained about the smoke following one of us as we searched for a spot around the fire that was smoke free. I believed her, as there was a cousin or two that never got a face full of smoke, and it was deserved!
My son and I went on a backpacking trip (in CO) last Thanksgiving. We noticed our destination had received 3-4 inches of snow the night before our trip began, but figured that wasn't much snow, so it shouldn't be a big deal. What we didn't think about was the wind blowing that snow into depressions and valleys along the trail. There were places we only had 2 inches of snow and places we found 12 or even 16 inches of snow. We'd left our gaiters at home and snow quickly found its way into our boots, so we had wet boots and cold feet. A planned 3-day trip turned into a hike straight back to the truck on day 2. Now we take everything we can possibly conceive of needing and make the decisions at the trailhead about what to carry along and what to leave in the truck.
Very good point about not sweating. I live in the Great Smokies area, so I simply sacrifice an entire layer of clothing climbing to the camp site, and immediately change into dry clothing at camp, knowing that the wet clothes will still be wet ( and/or frozen ) to carry out in the morning. It's just too difficult to not sweat while climbing the elevation gain that Smokies trails are known for.
Another reason you shouldn’t fill your pad up with your lungs in cold weather is because once the warm air your put in cools down the pad will need to pumped up more
Don't pull your bag/quilt over your head to keep your face warm. I did this thinking I'd be helping myself two ways by also exhaling warm air into the bag and heating myself up, but that air is moist which makes you wet pretty quick. I figure out my issue after a couple shivering nights.
@@veganpotterthevegan that is such a sensible solution! I camped recently in cool weather (49F) and the only thing that got cold was my face. I don't like a blanket over my face bc it makes me feel like I can't breathe. Balaclava for next time!
@@that_auntceleste5848 I don't like a blanket over my mouth but do like it over my face, trick is to learn how to fold it so it covers most of the face leaving the mouth out to breathe. I use a separate blanket just for my head, it's a light fleece blanket but very warm, I use this "trick" at home for cold nights, it works great for sleeping bags cause you can tuck the blanket around the bag opening, keeps cold air from getting inside.
I what try my new camping quilts out at home in the back yard in winter to see how well they keep me warm. If it's too cold I can just come inside the house. Easier to know how a quilt works before you go into the Backcountry with it.
If it's really cold I'll stick a Hot Hands on the underside of each wrist, usually just held in place by my long-sleeve t-shirt cuff. (Although they do make adhesive hand warmers.) I like that under-the-wrist location because the Hot Hands ends up wherever I'm cold. If I roll to my side and go fetal, my wrists lay across my chest and I sort of hug the handwarmers. If my hands end up at my sides, away from my body, the handwarmers on my wrists keep my hands warm. If I've shrugged out of my stocking cap or otherwise my face gets cold, it's easy (and natural) to put my wrists up to warm my face or ears or nose--automatically, while I doze. Anyway, for a Dollar per night, it's totally worth it to me.
They're also a lifesaver if your feet get wet in the cold. I fell off of a log into a river during a crossing on a mountain hike once. It was November and there was about 6-8 inches of snow. I still had a few hours of walking and my boots were 100% soaked through. Changing my socks would have been pointless, because the new ones would just immediately become saturated. So I took two hand warmers, popped them and tucked them into my boots over my wet socks above my toes. Kept them from going completely numb or becoming frost bitten until we got to where we were spending the night and I was able to take off my boots and dry them safely. Definitely was the right call. Even if steaming my boots in foot sweat and river water for a few hours made them stink so bad that I discarded them after the trip.
Another good location for a handwarmer is between your thighs - it will warm the blood flowing through your femoral artery and you will warm up faster in your bag
You should never put them directly on bare skin. If you always have a layer of cotton or wool between the warmer and your skin, it won't burn you. You'll feel it getting too hot and can get it out long before it will damage your skin.
Really good tips! Just a couple comments. 1. Sweating is okay (and many times cannot be avoided) as long as you change your clothes to clean, dry clothes before you climb into your sleeping bag. Even if you don't believe you sweated during the day, change your clothes! 2. Sleeping pads that are closed cell foam also work very well. Adding a few layers of cardboard or paper below them helps too! I spent 15 years camping with Boy Scouts in all temps in Michigan!
Oh my, I'm totally putting that tiny air pump on my wishlist. That is exactly what I didn't know I needed! Especially because (the booth of) my car is tiny, so even when weight isn't a big issue when car camping, size definitely is! Generally great tips in this video
An important lesson I learned is to be a little more careful about deciding on a campsite when planning a cold weather trip. Just winging it works ok in fair weather and long days, but as darkness is closing in, the snow is flying, and the temp is falling, hunting around for a campsite is a bummer. And plan less ambitious hiking days!
I learned this one the hard way last winter hiking in the Smokey's. I was convinced we would find a beautiful spot at 5,000 feet. Then we got up there and it was like...Nope...blowing snow with temps in the teens. Had to hike back down a couple thousand feet before we could setup.
I love your authenticity immediately dude. I'm going to do some camping with my kids in the backyard and it's a little cold and one's autistic and a lot of the things you're saying. I know this stuff but with my kids and that unique situation in mind and what bedtime routines are going to be the most advantageous in mind while listening to you go through this stuff it gives me a whole new perspective unique to the situation I'm planning.
Sleeping bag comfort also depends on where you come from and where you go to. Years ago I met a Jamaican lady who was wearing a thick turtleneck sweater in the middle of summer and she was freezing here in Canada, newely arrived. Ha, I told her she's gonna be in for a surprise in winter.
Nice Tips Dan ! One thing I want to add is: A woollen blanket that packs right in your jacket or bag pocket. I have used it since I was a kid and it does wonders. You can use it as a layer or as an insulation beneath you.
I lol'd about the smoke, because it's like every single time out in the bush that smoke just comes after you. So funny. When I'm camping in the cold, I like to pre-warm my sleeping bag by putting a hot water bottle in about a half hour before bedtime. Also wear a toque to bed to keep your noodle warm. It helps a lot
Your body produces a back draft or eddy in the breeze. You move, the smoke moves too. Best to debark wood snd feed the fire with little wood, often. Less smoke.
Netting t-shirt. Or whatever it's called. It's great to have on the inside, because it lets air flow, which dries out sweat. At the same time air pockets are made which traps hot air.
Dan - I've camped all my life, however last year was my first year backpacking in cold weather. I succumbed to not putting my batteries in a warm pocket with me in my hammock and top quilt. Yes, dead batteries in the morning. LOL I did remember to snuggly tuck away my water filter though!! Thanks for the insight and tips! -dave
Not a backpack camper, but a van camper which is mostly my sleeping pod. For winter I've made the back of my van into a freestanding tent using an 8x10 emergency blanket tarp held to the roof & sides by 3 pvc poles. So far it works well and provides complete privacy inside. I have a medium sized solar blanket that will power a heating pad I can use to keep my core warm which shuts off every 2 hours. Next week it'll get into the 20s at night so I'll test it some more.
Even car campers need these tips. I learned that at Yellowstone. I was greatful I had multiple layers of clothing and multiple layers of bedding. Used a summer sleeping bag zipped, a blanket I had for my dog, plus an unzipped regular sleeping bag. My dog slept at my feet under the blankets and we both stayed warm. Oh and I always put an extra tarp under my tent because it doesn't matter what season it is, the ground is cold. LOL
It is a problem on a multi day hike in the cold. The clothes don't dry, so you have to put them back on wet the next day. Making a fire is, most of the time, not possible. Plus : wet clothes are heavier. It is a problem if you have a lot.
Have not cold weather camped in years, but I always found that a decent and decently sized wool blanket has a myriad of uses. Especially when cold, damp conditions are a factor. Bit heavy but very resistant to damage from fires and brush. And if you wear it like a kilt, people point at you.
I had a nice mummy bag backpacking in Colorado, slept on the ground, no tent mostly. One night, we're up just below the snowline...somebody is shaking me...I open it up...gale force winds. "We need help looking for the tents". A couple of them had blown away, the floors stayed because people were sleeping in them but the tops ripped off. I think, It's dark, we're on a mountainside and they are useless now. Nobody flew away in one. "No. We'll find them in the morning if anything is left" Closed that thing back up. Couldn't tell a storm was blowing...well not a storm just windy like crazy.
Another great video! My two cents on the subject: go pee before sleep, you don’t want to have to get out of your sleeping bag during the night get cold and then have to get warm again… and bring reusable hand warmers, they can add the little extra comfort you might need, and next day, put them in boiling water and they’re good to go again! Hope it helps! Cheers from France!
I used footwarmers once and took my shoes off and left them in my socks when I went to bed. Bad idea. Foot warmers are calibrated differently from hand warmers in terms of oxygen. So when I took my shoes off and all that new oxygen was available, they got really hot.
@@jm-bv1wh I need to experiment around with those pee funnels, try a few different ones, because it sucks so bad having to get out of the tent...and for some reason when I backpack and camp I need to pee 3x through the night whereas at home I sleep through the night. I assume it'll take a bit of time trying it out at home before I'm comfortable using a pee funnel and a bottle inside a tent in the dark ^~^'
My wife and I have used hot water bladders when camping in Idaho during the winter. Wake up a little cold, start the jetboil and toss a hot bladder in by your feet. Works like a charm
And remember the wind chill effect... The temperature on the termostat is not the same as felt temperature with wind! I slept outside in a tent in -22C (-7.6F) but my sergeant said that with wind chill that day the effective felt temperature outside the tent was closer to -37C (-34F). So having a layer that breaks the wind is really important.
@@harryhumphries72 Northern Norway, way above the arctic circle during winter. But like I said, the temperature was with wind chill effect. Not the air temperature itself.
Few winter sleeping tips from random stranger: You can put empty backpack over your sleeping bag's feet end to get extra insulation, usually your feet are the coldest part of the body and they are secluded far from your torso as main heat generator. You might want to put your tomorrow clothes inside your sleeping bag for the night. That way, the clothes are not stupid cold, but lukewarm. This might also apply to your water container if you cannot afford to let it freeze solid, just put it all the way to the bottom of your sleeping bag. If you got fire and extra heat inside your sleeping bag would be appreciated, wrap a stone from fireplace in some fabric and put it in the feet of sleeping bag. Thinking of this popular comment section tip - you could also do this inside your tent with more stones, without risk of ruining your sleeping bag and without possibly dirtying useful piece of fabric. Just put the stones on layer of sticks. Also a little note - you should not blow into your mat because of the humidity, thats right. I think you misconcepted the explanation though - the air humidity inside the mat dulls its insulation properties as the humid air conducts the heat better.
In the military, we'd first lay down visqueen as a vapor barrier, our sleeping pad over that, then both our wool blankets folded in thirds, and finally our ECW sleeping bag. Make sure to fluff the the bag well! Strip down in the bag , and keep your cloths by your feet. One camp was in -20 F, and I was almost too warm all night. In the morning, I only had a 6" melted spot under my hips. Others that didn't follow the training woke up cold, and had huge "deer beds" melted into the ground. You need about 7 times the insulation below you than above you. For car camping, I run a 1.5" neoprene pad with a wool blanket above, and then my military mountain sleeping bag. Works down to about 15 F.
Good tipps 👍🏼 I make also sure to set up the sleeping bag as early as I can, so it unfolds the fibers as good as possible. And I always make myself feel warm before I go inside. You probably won't start to feel warm if you hop in feeling cold already. And i have warm wather in a thermos bottle ready to be poored into an uninsulated bottle so it acts as a heatsource.
Tip 8: Always buy an extra long sleeping bag so the bottom an be used for storage particularly for your boots (have a bag to put them in). Tip 9: Use a water bottle that can hold hot water and not leak to bring to bed at night. Makes for a great warm start and gives you safe water in the morning.
Excellent video! When I went through the Air Force Arctic Survival Course, they told us that the Eskimos had a saying: "To sweat is to die." Since it was -30 F. in Alaska for the course, I have never forgotten that. Also, I liked your layering system. Excepting the brand names, I wore the exact same thing to the summit of Wheeler Peak, New Mexico two weeks ago, and despite the freezing temperatures (23 F. at the summit), 35 mph wind, and ankle deep snow, I was mostly warm. I always enjoy your very informative videos.
Elmendorf is still kicking strong and the damn weather changes by the hour between humid and dry due to the clouds at the elevation in the surrounding area Alaska is not always a dry cold
I don't think sweating itself is bad. You just have to have dry wool shirt to change after the excercise. Spend a winter in northern Finland in the military. Sometimes you just have to sweat.
I usually boil up some water to put in a thermos before I go to bed in winter time so I dont need to start the morning with melt snow into water. Last time I was out in the winter time it was -4 F or -20 C (up in the north sweden). I took wrong thermos with me this time so the hot water had frozen under the night. So if you want to test if the hot water in the thermos will still be a fluid the day after, put the thermos with hot water in the freezer over night to test it.
Things that work for me: Eat a high calorie snack b4 bed, fresh thick wool socks, fresh clean tight sleeping clothes and hat. All these things together warm you from the inside out and then trap in the heat. Nothing wrong with Hand/body warmers sometimes.
Temperatures don't even need to drop below freezing to be dangerous. One time I was camping in Florida in winter and I didn't think it would get cold so I didn't bring a sleeping bag and all I had was a t-shirt and light denim jacket. I woke up in the middle of the night, shivering uncontrollably, and I eventually had to get up and start a fire and just hang out the rest of the night because I was definitely going into hypothermia. It probably wasn't less than 50°F
It has been my experience that companies usually use survival rating. A wiggys bag is comfort rated, but I don't know about any others. I was just out in my wiggys bag that is 20 degree rated. It was 26 degrees and I was totally comfy. I'm a cold sleeper so if I am warm then the bag is warm. Regarding layering etc also remember that you do not want cotton, anywhere anytime. The saying is "Cotton kills". Get clothing that will wick moisture away. Super important. Pillows. I use a down coat for that. When its really cold, be sure to wear a hat. Site selection is another cold issue. If you can choose a place where you can find leaves to put under your tent that is good. Also, being in the bottom of a valley vs being higher up. Choose higher up. The cold air settles. Just don't get so high you are up in the breezy areas.
Cotton can be useful for windbreaker layer. It's true you don't want cotton close to skin but it works well as outer shell with wool layers underneath.
Been backpacking for 41 years and still learning. 2 years ago I got a bag that plugs into my sleeping pad and you roll it and that pushes the air into the pad. I have asthma and this helps. But I never thought air from my lungs would make the pad colder. Also when you get a new filter system, realize cold temps can cause a problem. I was at 12,000 last October and my Katadyn 3 liter bag filter and tubes froze. The next several nites I filtered 3 liters and drained the filter and tubes.
i always add 2 bottle of warm water (platypus or other) in water resistant bags (in case the bottle leak) usually one at my feet and one close to my chest. This add a lot of comfort and when you wake up you can drink the warm water (with tea or coffee) to warm you up before leaving the sleeping bag.
Wear a hat or balaclava, fresh dry underwear, dry wool socks or booties, put pillow inside sleeping bag hood or put inside your puffy jacket for warmth, maybe use your clothes bag and youll have warm clothes in am. Put wool socks over hands as mittens and you will be sooo happy. Do light exercise before turning in stretch and pee BEFORE sleeping and if needed have a pee bottle so you don't have to go dress up to tramp to a friendly tree in the dark. My friend actually almost got lost on his pee adventure (newbies dont realize just how dark it can get in the woods), so keep your headlamp around yor neck. Hot water bottle in Ziploc, put water filter there. More happiness and you might even have a warm drink in the morning. Even more happiness. If your bag has a big foot box put shoes in drawstring trash bag so avoid putting on frozen shoes,
Useful tips for me as I'm planning to keep camping over the winter in the UK. The overheating/sweating issue is something i've noticed when actually trying to sleep. I've not done any extreme cold camping so far, but some nights down to maybe 5 C / 40 F. Expecting much colder temperatures later in the night, I shove everything on and in half an hour I'm too hot, but here's the thing - I don't realise it. I'm hot, but I feel cold, because I move and I expose a bit of my overheated, damp body to a draught or a slightly colder bit of the sleeping bag, so I snug everything in even more, and it's a vicious circle. I know the feeling now, like I'm hot and cold at the same time. So, as when setting off on a cold day, it's maybe better to feel slightly chilly and only wrap up more when it gets colder. Another thing I saw on a video - there's a tendency to put too many layers on our torso and overheat the core temperature - tops and bottoms overlap for one thing, so with 3 layers you can end up with 6 around your middle. The brain reacts to the core temperature getting too hot by trying to cool off, by sweating and opening the blood vessicles in the skin - just what you don't want. I guess in a hypothermic situation, you do everything you can to protect your core temperature, but at more normal temperatures it might be better to pay attention to head, hands and feet, lower legs, arms, etc. But I'm not sure how you avoid that doubling up on the middle other than only wearing onesies, or very short tops!
Super wet and rainy days around 3°C are the hardest to cope with. Cause its really hard to dry yourself with all this condensetion on you. Now I always bring more spare cloths than I need. A tip if you expect temperature to freeze during the night is to expect your boots to be frozen if they were wet when you went to sleep. So its a good idea to have an extra pair of small shoes / socks. Ive seen a few friends having terrible days because they started their day by putting on frozen boots.
My mistake was "trying not to sweat". Took an overnight trip and I'm a sweaty dude. 5'9 255lbs. In the morning, I had my down jacket. Once we started hiking 38-44° out, I only had my wool base layer and a t-shirt. It was 40° but I was sweating like it was 70° out.
The first time my wife and I went car camping together nearly 20 years ago we learned quickly the need for a sleeping pad. It was probably late September and temps were not that cold but we learned fast the cold ground sucks the heat out of you. I also started winter hiking for the first time since gyms were closed during the lock downs. After my first hike in the snow I returned with icicles on the brim of my hat. I thought it was cool till I watched a video (maybe one of yours??) that made it clear that I would be in trouble if I'd lost my car keys and was stranded dripping with sweat. I have since learned to layer and slow down when I am stripped down as much as I can. Thanks for the tips!!
In South Texas, we don't get snow often (think once every 10 years or so) but it can get bitterly cold. I was camping with my troop once and we were near the Guadalupe River. It got down to 8 degrees, but the the wind chill was even colder. Tip 1: If you can avoid camping near water when it's cold, do it. The air off the water will only increase the wind chill factor. Tip 2: This wasn't really covered, but if your sleeping bag is properly rated, DON'T wear clothes to bed. It can cause you to sweat, which will only make the clothes your wearing damp. Tip 3: This is counter intuitive, but open the vents of your tent! You'd think you want them closed so you limit the cold air getting to you, but really it's allowing the air to flow. I've closed the vents before and the moisture from my lungs while sleeping actually froze on the inside of my tent.
I loved that the first recommendation is to avoid sweating, a problem that affects also and even in a worse manners bikers. That's why, when leaving for a trip, I first get my bike totally ready with all the luggage and stuff ready to go and only then I take a bath/shower and get dressed for the ride. Same when I camp. I get my camp completely ready to sleep and then I shower and get dressed for the night with dry clothes as hoc for sleeping, not riding.
I lived in Wyoming years ago and did alot of cross country skiing. In cross country its a very big deal to learn how to be a quick change artist, its essential. Start out with what you came with. After you start down your snowie trail, you start peeling off layer by layer. Then when you stop for a break, you put some of it back on, then as you go again, off it comes. Your layers have to be handy, effective and light weight. I often had a light wind beaker around my waist to slip on when I stopped. As soon as I feel my skin feel cool, and my clothes, no long steam, means my clothes are becoming dry. Then I'll put on the wind breaker until I'll start again. Your right you have to be aware of what your body is doing, and work around it.
One mistanke ive made where using a propane stove outside in -15 degrees celsius..... Used a lot of fuel and bareley got my water to boil, compared to my buddy next to me using a multifuel burner, it worked slow and used a lot more fuel..... You live u learn
I would add bring more cloths than you normally do in case things get wet, spare socks, gloves, hat, and a fresh mid layer set to sleep in. I also really like a set of polar-guard boots after a day trudging on snowshoes.
Good tips. Particularly, don’t believe sleeping bag temperature ratings. Though not sure that using your breath to blow up mattress is a mistake- moisture content of the trapped air makes little difference to insulation- for me anyway. Also real pillow, bulkier and heavier. Take an Inflated pillow and use the weight saved to offset taking a warm hat that you wear in bed. Good stuff. In ultra cold, could mention using a vapour barrier to stop your sweat passing through and freezing on the outer layers.
When sleeping in the cold make sure to try to go to the bathroom (number 1 or 2, or both) before you go to sleep for the night. Your body naturally keeps your urine and fecal matter warm. Therefore your body spends more energy keeping those things inside your body warm, instead of distributing that heat to other places in your body. This also applies if you wake up at 3:00 AM with the dreaded urge to pee in negative temps and meters of snow outside of your tent. As much as it sucks, you've just gotta get up, get dressed, and get it over with. You'll be way warmer throughout the night, trust me.
It's a good idea to do a trial run with all equipment in the expected type of conditions. I bought a quilt rated to 20 degrees, I set up my tent in a snow storm with wet sleet in my yard and tried out the quilt. I woke up shivering at 32 degrees. I bought another quilt from another company, a 10 degree quilt that many reviewers said was comfortable below zero. When I tried it out at home I was toasty all night with temps that went down to 18 degrees. Had I stuck with the first quilt or failed to try it out in the cold I would have been miserable in the snow in the Sierra Nevada Mountains at high altitude. Similarly setting up my tent in a storm showed me what was needed to keep dry, keep the tent dry as well as my gear. One lesson was to absolutely know where I had stored the stakes, to have all the adjustments pre set on the tent and to have a cover of some sort to place over my pack. a light weight clear plastic poncho works well. I had occasion on my back pack to set up in serious downpour with hail and dropping temps and was really glad I had learned how to do it.
@@franny5295 Works if your unheated house reaches the temps you will be experiencing on the trail. I crawled into a down sleeping bag in an AZ mid summer. However that wasn't to test temps, rather I was testing fit. It was claustraphobic so back it went and I went to using a quilt.
Did this when I was in the Army in Vermont, before going to sleep warm up a Nalgene of water, put your socks around it for the next day and throw it in your sleeping back. keeps those socks warm for the next morning and keeps the bag warm all night.
I would definitely add the importance of managing condensation vs ventilation, especially with respect to sleep system. Something warm at the beginning of the night can turn into a soggy mess by the end of the night. Another thing would be understanding how to correctly use a mylar energency blanket to reflevt heat. If you are backpacking in unpredictable conditions, it's worth the weight consideration or having a secondary thermarest with this feature, especially if you are in a valley or canyon because they create their own convection system and can get colder overnight. Mylar under your pad will reflect your body heat back and can be helpful if you find yourself in an unforcasted storm sutuation suddenly and unexpectedly colder than what you were prepared for (e.g. freak summer snow). Additionally, adding a bag liner can also help add 5°-15° to a sleeping bag and are good to have if you are in a scenario when the weather can get iffy. An emergency bivy can also be helpful, but make sure it breathes so ypu stay dry.
Good advice. Below freezing does present risks for hypothermia, but most serious cases take place around 50 degrees. Fifty and wet with exhaustion trumps most temp ratings.
One of my best tips for cold weather camping is to take a hot water bottle with you, even in the Spring/Summer, here in the UK, the temp during the night can still drop. I fill mine with the hot water left over from my last cup of tea for the evening, by the time I get in my sleeping bag, it's really toasty and helps retain the warmth inside the bag until the morning.
Great video and all good points! I would add one thing and that is to put on a change of clothes when going to bed. Especially socks and underwear. I bring sweatpants, a separate sweatshirt and a hat too. Even if you don’t seem to sweat, your clothes do pick up oils and such. The drier you and your clothes are, the warmer you will be when sleeping in the cold.
With the whole layering thing-- also wear clothing made out of the right material as well. Wool is the best for next to the skin, since it will wick moisture, and it naturally adjusts to varying temperatures. It also retains most of its insulating properties even when wet, so you won't freeze even if you are sweaty.
@@finnberglander7816 That's why I suggested it. Light weight wool is good for warmer weather or layering in cold weather, and heavier weight wool for cold weather. There's a reason why people used to wear it so much before we started making synthetic fabrics. Wool, cotton, and linen were the staple fabrics up until recently.
I have definitely made the sleeping bad mistake. I upgraded the bag and Now I keep a wool blanket so I don’t have the heat pulled out from under me. Keep warm and camp on. 🤙🏼
I have a sleeping bag that is big enough for my sleeping pad to slide into, and I have a fleece sleeve that the sleeping pad filled bag can slide into. I have never had a cold night. The fleece sleeve is nice to drape over my legs or wrap around my shoulders while I eat, it rolls up to be a nice pillow, or it can be an extra layer of cush between me and my sleeping pad when it isn't so cold. I don't care how much space this takes up in my pack - I want to sleep warm!
Depending on the weather that you are camping in, I would probably talk about the importance of bringing your boots, water source/hydration bladder, and any electronics you have with you into your tent. My first winter backpacking trip in the snow, my boots were literally frozen solid, my bladder was a block of ice, and my electronics all died cuz of the cold. Made for an extremely miserable and tedious morning, which ended up in my group missing our objective for the next day since we had to thaw out our boots over the stove. Also, keeping your boots dry is super important, once again if you dont wan't it to freeze. Between using a vapour barrier and gaiters, its an absolute game changer!
You might ad to that that you should keep your tent well ventilated. Might sound a little counterintuitive But nothing worse than damp gear because of condensation
There's more to add to this. If you keep the inside layer more ventilated than the outside (i.e. zip up the fly, but leave the ventilation open for the core part of the tent), you can force the condensation to form on the inside of the tent fly, instead of the living area of the tent, keeping you nice and dry. This is because condensation forms at the coldest locations, and your body keeps the tent interior slightly warmer than outside. Remember to take any gear that you don't want damp inside the tent, though, so dirty boots? Wrap them in an old T-shirt or something to keep the dirt contained and bring them inside with you! Also, if the core of the tent ever reaches the temperature of outside, dew will form in there too, so keep that in mind if you have an itching for a midnight walk.
I've sewed a pillow slip, one for warm and one for cold, for my blow up pillow. First it keeps the pillow from siding around and second it adds some insulation value.
The water filter tip is a really good one. I never thought of that, I've also never done any cold weather camping but may do some 3rd season camping soon ish. The Thermarest pillow is amazing. It is as comfortable as a home pillow in bed. I tried different air pillows and didn't like sleeping on a balloon. That Thermarest is where it's at, I'll take the hit to weight and space for the comfort.
I’m just starting out and went for my first camp recently. Kept my phone on the tent floor over night and wondered why I hardly had any battery in the morning 😒. Won’t make that mistake again! Thanks for the tips
Couple o crucial oversights here. No mention of the importance of head gear: all thr blood circulates thru the neck and scalp every 2 to for minuites. It is the body’s radiator. And can be used to regulate therms in either direction. Moisture. Just adding and removing layers is not the complete story. Ability to vent is important. Clothing with crotch and pit zips help as well as the zippers up front. In layering, why a tee shirt. When it is cold a wicking longlseve underlayer is de rigour. Turtle neck with zipper. About that fire smoke. Wherever you sit influences air eddying due to the idea that heat rises. Also it was a good time to mention that when you sit facing a fire there is a heat gradient between the front and back of the body. The back gets chill and boom discomfort leads to more imballance as you feed the flames. Night insul is strongly influenced by moisture retention. When it is cold , a vapor barrier added inside the bag stabilizes heat loss thru evapouration. Tune for ballance so that you do not begin sweat. Persperation will be reduced if moisture does not escape out of the bag. a bivi sack added out side the bag adds significant RValue. No mention that snow never gets below 32 degrees F. It can be the warmest thing around in the outside environment and many unsurvivable bivis have been survived by burrowing into it. Stay out of the wind. Iven if everything gets wet you can wake up in the morning if you manage to keep all your body heat from being blown away. Finally, and this one is a bit of a reach but it is a fact of thermondynamics. Heat will go from where it is to where it is not. Clear night sky is an infinite heat sink. All year around! In winter this one convection cell can kill you. If you are outside, Cover your face with something non conductive. This is not a factor under an overcast. Or innthe trees. The steers to appropriate products is good on its face and everyone has to make aliving, but this has the feeling of an infomercial for backcountry, which is a great outlet with competitive prices and whose gear heads have never been able to provide me with much actionable intel. Besides these quibbles, i give you a thumbs up for the incentive. But there is alot more to it. Sometimes in a pinch you have to sleep in shifts or if alone just stay awake till dawn. Inotherwords have some fun.. no guts no good story
While the ground can "suck that heat right out of you", the ground can be warmer than the air. It is a problem because the sleeping bag insulation is compressed by your weight and is much less effective than the insulation above you. That 20 degree bag may only be a 50 degree where you are laying on it. Ask any hammock camper. No ground contact but they will use a underquilt or a pad to keep the bottom side warm.
I personally use a inflatable pad on a cot, while inside my sleeping bag. I sleep like a baby in a 3 season tent. No buddy heater. I’ve not tried this in below 20 f weather. But at 28 f it worked great.
Did a late season (November) elk trip in Wyoming and used a combination of an insulated switchback pad and insulated air pad with my Nemo 20 deg bag, stayed warm at 12deg. Great tips!
About R-Values: you can roughly calculate the R-Value or your ground insulation by just adding up those of everything you sleep on. So if you got an old but good 3-season-pad already like a thermarest self inflating one (like I do) and you don't want to invest a ton of money in a new one just to try out winter camping you just bring one or two of the good old foam mats (depending on their thickness) and put them under your pad. This was warm enough for me and also my girlfriend in slight freezing conditions. Also I had tried to put three layers of mylar or such a foamy aluminium windshield cover under or between the layered mats. I cannot say how much that does improve the whole thing as I had no intention to try without while camping in the snow but you might want to give it a try. ;-) It might also be a good idea to build a bed of twigs under sleeping site or even under you whole tent, if you have one. Speaking of tents: make sure to use one with really good ventilation, you'll have a lot of condensation and wet=cold! I'm thinking of just bringing a tarp next time and making a longfire in front of it.
Empty air filled structures have R values, an empty wall has a R value of 3 (~2 inches). Also they are additive, so that pillow with your sleeping bag is adding to the overall value (and your pad)
Except that an unobstructed cavity like an inflated pillow can develop a convection current, so it brings cool air toward the spot that's being warmed by your head and shoulder.
Good tips and many great suggestions in the comments! While I have somehow ended up with two hiking pillows in my possession (neither of which I have bought), I rarely use them, because a great insulating pillow can be made with the stuff you already have: Pull your sleeping bags stuffsack inside out (so the compression straps are now inside the bag) and stuff it with your down&puffy jacket - voila! Another thing to note is that you need REALLY good ventilation in a tent in freezing condition, otherwise the water vapor from your breath will freeze and you'll wake to a tent full of frost that could have fallen on your sleeping bag/pad, melted and made it wet.
My biggest tip with staying warm overnight is to eat a big meal right before you sleep, preferably a slow burning carb like oatmeal or brown rice etc. Gets the internal furnace going and helps you stay warm throughout the night !
This advice is perhaps the most important and the most common one that is not taken into account when spending the night in the woods in winter. Even if you have the best sleeping bag and sleeping pad, they won't keep you warm if your body doesn't have the energy to produce heat. It is the most common mistake that novice hikers make. Of course, you need to have the right gear for cold conditions, but it's easy to imagine that gear is just about keeping you warm. The sleeping bag only acts as insulation, and the heat produced by the body actually keeps you warm.
After 30+ years of using the same bag, plus a couple others I've added for other conditions, I'm convinced that the temperature rating is a number that, when new, the bag will keep you alive at that temp. Adding a blanket or extra bag inside the bag can add (subtract?) another 10 degrees or so. Wearing clean thermals to bed is a wonderful idea--I have taught my offspring to always change clothes before getting in their bags--and dress for the temperature. And yes, keep tomorrow's clothes in to get warm--they make a great pillow.
i remember the first time i camped in the cold. i slept like i normally would at home in just in short and i woke up freezing, i never made that mistake after that i even heated a bottle of water put it in my sleeping bag it helped alot
I went to a fall campout with my thermarest corus 32 degree camping quilt. A 1.4 r rated sleeping pad a camping hammock saw the temps were in the mid to high 40’s thinking ai was golden because I’m a warm sleeper. There was nowhere to hang my hammock and the campsite was in a bowl. The last time I was that cold was sleeping on a rock at St Patricks Well in Ireland. I was cold the next night too.
It doesn’t have to be freezing or below for hypothermia to be a concern. An ambient temperature of 50 degrees F is the threshold. Without proper equipment and depending on other weather conditions, even temperatures of 60 degrees F can be dangerous.
Remember to be extra careful to keep your down sleeping bags dry. Moisture can cause the down to collapse and you lose some if not all of the insulation value. I know hydraphobic down is better but I usually go synthetic when even the possibility of down failure can be fatal.
Super helpful video! People should avoid cots while camping in the fall/winter! I was camping as a kid and my parents didn’t even know that. I had a terrible night, cold the entire time.
The big reason for losing insulation underneath you is your weight, smashing feathers or foam Cancels the insulation rating because there is no air pockets left to do the installation. While rigid rest and other airfield pads do not crush under the weight of your body as much keeping the R-value up.
I cant begin to explain how important a sleeping pad is, 2013 Afghanistan I was sleeping on the floor with just my sleeping bag freezing my a#$ off, next night I used my iso mat and the difference was day n night, I was actually sweating from how warm I was. Trust me use that sleeping pad/mat
It is a camping law that campfire smoke will follow you no matter where you sit.. trust me… I just scientifically proved this
That code work on climbing gear?
@@AZDesertExplorer it should!
Ah, mistake #8 is not using a Solo Stove to cut down on the smoke when you are filming a good video.
I hate rabbits...that cures the smoke following issue....
Time for a Breo or Solo...lol
30+ years ago I was solo backpacking in January In Massachusetts. As the sun was going down I stripped naked and stood in the wind then put on warm dry wool. I hung the day clothes overnight to dry out the sweat.
20 years ago I was snowshoeing in northern Illinois at about -20 F. I stopped to get a drink and get some pictures. I unsnapped my down coat and watched the steam rise off my chest and frost form on my sweater. Knowing the backside was just as moist I took off the down coat for a few minutes and shook it to drive cold dry air through the barely moist down.
Why am I telling you this? Cold air is dry, use it to dry your sweat damped clothes and body. Dry clothes will quickly warm you, damp clothes will slowly kill you.
Years back when I lived in New England and climbed Mt. Washington regularly (in the winter as well and during storms), I would dress extremely lightly in the winter on the mountain. I'd routinely wear summer weight liner pants/shirts under my shell gear (basically next to no insulating value on the clothing as I tend to overheat easily when moving), and that would be about it. Of course I had warm gear with me in case I got stuck/needed it. I'd be comfortable while moving, although one time I got stuck for 2 hours on a small ice ledge while ice climbing Huntington Ravine (on my knees....that was super painful), and that got a bit chilly since it was 7 degrees not including the wind chill. I remember hiking up to Harvard Cabin one time in 3 degree temps at Pinkham, in those same lightweight liner pants and long sleeve shirt (basically the insulating equivalent of spandex lol), gloves and a hat....no shell stuff or gaiters. I don't think I sweat a drop on that hike up (it basically felt like being naked in a very cool room - not cold enough to shiver, but not comfortable by any means), even with a full pack......the only way that was possible in those temps was due to no wind - a very slight breeze would go through the woods from time to time, and that was coooold. I miss that mountain.
One of the things that an old grey beard (I'm sure he was younger than I am now, given that he was a dad of one of the scouts, but...) told me as a scout back in the 80s has stuck with me. I spent my college years in Michigan's UP, winter camping throughout the Keweenaw peninsula and it proved its worth. Your base layers are less about keeping you warm than they are about keeping you from getting cold. Moving the moisture away from the body so that evaporative cooling happens at the layers and NOT on the skin is key to both comfort and survival.
Wow!
@@ChuckCharbeneau
I'm a native Hoosier but a big UP fan. Winter camping up in the Kewaa is HARD core. Hoo raah!
Yesir.
When you're sleeping in a tent in your sleeping bag, your head is exposed and you actually lose body heat through your scalp. It's best to wear a soft, warm hat at night, but dress lightly inside the bag. You'll be more comfortable and warm, and not wake up sweaty in the morning.
Or get a mummy bag, the chances of me keeping a hat on at night is zero with all the tossing I do so a mummy bag is the solution for cold camping for me.
I've never used anything other than a mummy bag since I was 10 - you've got a warm layer all around you and you just pull it tight around your head. If your head gets cold, it makes your body try and heat up to compensate, then you wake up covered in sweat - not good.
I always sleep nacked in my sleeping bag
@@andrewfidel2220 I do a lot of tossing from side to side, no way I could keep a hat on but can't stand mummy bags, I use conventional bag with a "blanket" over my head, what I have is an Ozark Trail fleece sleeping bag I use as my head cover, it's light weight but very warm, you can tuck it around your head/shoulders, keeps cold air from going down into the bag, and you're head can move under it. I even do this at home, works great for keeping the head warm on cool nights.
Heck, I wear a knit hat to better in winter at home. It makes all the difference for a cold natured sleeper.
My tip, and this had made a huge difference when in snowy areas.
Before getting into your tent and sleeping bag in winter, do about 20 fast deep squats. This will get your body warm, but not sweat. That residual heat from your body when going into your cold sleeping bag will make the start of your night nice and cosy.
Yep, and take of much of your clothes, many people go into the bag with a lot of clothes on and the clothes are cold.. and then the sleeping bag insulates a lot of that cold on the inside.. making you freeze more.
A few army vets told me this trick.
and a spoon of peanut butter! burning calories through the night keeps you warmer
@@Fixdgear Yeah, enough fluid and calories are of vital importance in the cold. And another kinda hilarious thing I learned, that I never thought about before is if nature calls and you have to go.. Go.. Don't hold it in, because the body burns energy wastefully (pun intended) by keeping it warm.
@@spuddlingbob8724 great point
I'm an experienced cold weather camper and backpacker, yet I still learned something really valuable from this video, wear my cheap frogtogs over my pricey puffy to embers from the fire dont burn even more holes in it! Thanks Dan!
🙌🔥
I learned that coats are now called, "puffys"!
Or, embrace your inner Joseph technicolour repair tape on your puffer like I do
If embers can burn holes through it it shouldn't be expensive or for camping.
A couple of thoughts:
1. If it's really cold out, maybe 20°F, avoid using a filter since the water will immediately start to freeze inside the filter. Boil the water at a rolling boil for 1 minute instead.
2. R-value demystified. This is the same rating system as the insulation in your house. Typical walls in northern states are R-38 (in Oregon, anyway). But a nice R-4 or R-6 sleeping pad will keep you toasty at night.
3. Keep batteries in your sleeping bag and pockets. Batteries don't lose power in the cold, just the chemical reaction in batteries slows waaaaaay down and they must be warmed back up to produce power.
4. Socks. At least a second pair to sleep in so your other socks can dry out in your sleeping bag overnight. Wool is best. And shoes/boots/socks that don't restrict your toes moving will allow those toes to stay warm all day.
That takes care of a couple of items.
20 degrees is really cold? Those of us in the Great White North would laugh at that because you will still see people wearing shorts at that temperature up here.
Good list! To elaborate on #4, have dedicated sleep clothes (if you don't sleep in the buff). Don't reuse ANY clothes that you've already worn outside. You can use the next day's clothes, but not ones you've already worn. That said, I bring PJs and fuzzy socks, sometimes they're thermals, but they only get used for sleeping.
@@HostileTakeover2 Good points! "Dry" is the key to staying warm.
@@stevec3872 Ha-ha! Absolutely, you're much colder up there. We just combine our temps with rain or wet snow through air inversions--I've stood in rain at 30 or lower!
Socks socks socks. Yep
Two cold weather sleeping tips that have helped me stay warm. 1. Wear a neck gaiter 2. Bring your down parka into your sleeping bag and spread it over your chest/torso. Even if you switch to your side to sleep some, it still helps insulate you.
I sometimes sleep in my puffy coat and down booties and can stretch the bags temperature rating considerably.
if it's dry, I use mine as my pillow, stuffed into an appropriately sized stuff sack. if it's been damped out due to fog & winter mix conditions, I try to wear it as dry as I can after changing my base layers. there's no way it's going to dry on its own in those conditions.
Wow. RUclips hasn’t suggested you in over a year. Just clicked in this and your filming style has changed and this video quality is amazing. Beautiful imagery!
Be bold, start cold. Start cold on a backpacking trek for example. When I am setting up, I purposely pull off layers until I am mildly uncomfortable, to keep from overheating and getting sweaty. Also, a head covering is a great piece of gear to have to sleep in to preserve body warmth. Lasty, smoke follows ugly. Just saying.
I was taught to sleep in only underwear. It’s brutal in the morning but it beats waking up in the morning and not being able to get warm
Exactly. Our rule is to leave camp cold. The physical exertion will warm you up faster and more than you think.
Minnesota native. Yup! Be cold until your moving.
@@americanclassicmetal7913 I always keep the next day clothes next to me in the sleeping bag. Use them to block the zipper so less breeze gets in.
I always bring a balacava with me to sleep in, super small and light way to really help keep heat in
Here's a tip: if you're using an air mattress in car camping, you will need to put an insulating later on top of the mattress between you and the mattress. Otherwise the cold from the ground can still get to you.
Put it under the mattress too..so they air bed isn't getting cold from under it.
These are great tips for anybody camping in cold weather. I do like how you emphasized the need for a 'sleep-system', it was one of the things our instructors drummed into us, "never sleep directly on the ground, unless you want to be planted in it". I learned most of these tips in the Canadian Armed Forces, as an infantryman a lifetime ago. The best advice I ever got that wasn't mentioned though, was "always have multiple methods for starting a fire".
Even though it's not the first thing you do when you set-up camp, you never want to rely on just one way to start a fire. Not only for the igniter, but also the tinder that will help grow a fire. My fire-kit has a Bic lighter, fire-stick, waterproof matches, a magnifying glass, cotton balls w/Vaseline, cardboard strips soaked in parafin wax,, home-made fatwood, a small container of coffee-mate, and a few small candles. All of which can be combined in a myriad of ways to create fire in a variety of adverse conditions. Practice in adverse conditions too, and like others have pointed out, do it where you're safe first, so you know when the chips are down, you're not going to freeze due to lack of fire.
Would hexamine bricks and a Ferro rod be a good option? I keep seeing surplus hexamine packs on eBay and was thinking about some of those and an esbit stove as a back up to a canister stove
@@V8DV the fire-stick in my kit is a ferro-magnesium rod, invaluable, I also have 5 more in my pack with general supplies, since I'll wear one out eventually.
I haven't added hexamine tablets, but they are a good idea, especially if you want a smokeless fire.
All those fire starters-hope you don’t spontaneously combust! : )
In the winter I use a Wool Blend Blanket inside my 20* Coleman Sleeping Bag in my tent and I sleep well even though I am a cold natured person.
My Granny always told us "Smoke follows beauty." when we complained about the smoke following one of us as we searched for a spot around the fire that was smoke free. I believed her, as there was a cousin or two that never got a face full of smoke, and it was deserved!
“Not having the embers on my nice coat” as the camp fire engulfs your jacket. Lol also didn’t know that about the sleeping bags. Thank you.
My son and I went on a backpacking trip (in CO) last Thanksgiving. We noticed our destination had received 3-4 inches of snow the night before our trip began, but figured that wasn't much snow, so it shouldn't be a big deal. What we didn't think about was the wind blowing that snow into depressions and valleys along the trail. There were places we only had 2 inches of snow and places we found 12 or even 16 inches of snow. We'd left our gaiters at home and snow quickly found its way into our boots, so we had wet boots and cold feet. A planned 3-day trip turned into a hike straight back to the truck on day 2. Now we take everything we can possibly conceive of needing and make the decisions at the trailhead about what to carry along and what to leave in the truck.
Very good point about not sweating. I live in the Great Smokies area, so I simply sacrifice an entire layer of clothing climbing to the camp site, and immediately change into dry clothing at camp, knowing that the wet clothes will still be wet ( and/or frozen ) to carry out in the morning. It's just too difficult to not sweat while climbing the elevation gain that Smokies trails are known for.
Another reason you shouldn’t fill your pad up with your lungs in cold weather is because once the warm air your put in cools down the pad will need to pumped up more
Remember COLD:
C: Keep Clean
O: Avoid Overheating (remove layers before increasing exertion)
L: Dress in Layers
D: Stay Dry
I agree but thats not how acronyms work lol
@@MrJames_Bondage Yeah, that is exactly how they work.
@@MrJames_Bondage damn, it sure is kcao(rlbie)dilsd today
Don't pull your bag/quilt over your head to keep your face warm. I did this thinking I'd be helping myself two ways by also exhaling warm air into the bag and heating myself up, but that air is moist which makes you wet pretty quick. I figure out my issue after a couple shivering nights.
Classic mistake. We’ve all done it.
Thanks for the tip. It now seems so obvious. I usually tuck my head inside the sleeping bag. Next time I'll try it your way.
@@georgelewis7154 a balaclava will make you a lot more comfortable
@@veganpotterthevegan that is such a sensible solution!
I camped recently in cool weather (49F) and the only thing that got cold was my face. I don't like a blanket over my face bc it makes me feel like I can't breathe. Balaclava for next time!
@@that_auntceleste5848 I don't like a blanket over my mouth but do like it over my face, trick is to learn how to fold it so it covers most of the face leaving the mouth out to breathe. I use a separate blanket just for my head, it's a light fleece blanket but very warm, I use this "trick" at home for cold nights, it works great for sleeping bags cause you can tuck the blanket around the bag opening, keeps cold air from getting inside.
This is where the hot flashes cease to be a curse, when everyone else is cold your on fire.
Amen sister
Or have Graves’ disease.
I what try my new camping quilts out at home in the back yard in winter to see how well they keep me warm. If it's too cold I can just come inside the house. Easier to know how a quilt works before you go into the Backcountry with it.
Yep, I’ve done that.
ONLY IF I do my pad straps right, my quilt works great in very cold temps UNTIL I toss and turn in my sleep. Always create air gaps…..
@@gwmtnbiker I place my puffer on the side that develops a small gap and the chill is gone.
If it's really cold I'll stick a Hot Hands on the underside of each wrist, usually just held in place by my long-sleeve t-shirt cuff. (Although they do make adhesive hand warmers.) I like that under-the-wrist location because the Hot Hands ends up wherever I'm cold. If I roll to my side and go fetal, my wrists lay across my chest and I sort of hug the handwarmers. If my hands end up at my sides, away from my body, the handwarmers on my wrists keep my hands warm. If I've shrugged out of my stocking cap or otherwise my face gets cold, it's easy (and natural) to put my wrists up to warm my face or ears or nose--automatically, while I doze. Anyway, for a Dollar per night, it's totally worth it to me.
They're also a lifesaver if your feet get wet in the cold. I fell off of a log into a river during a crossing on a mountain hike once. It was November and there was about 6-8 inches of snow. I still had a few hours of walking and my boots were 100% soaked through. Changing my socks would have been pointless, because the new ones would just immediately become saturated. So I took two hand warmers, popped them and tucked them into my boots over my wet socks above my toes. Kept them from going completely numb or becoming frost bitten until we got to where we were spending the night and I was able to take off my boots and dry them safely. Definitely was the right call. Even if steaming my boots in foot sweat and river water for a few hours made them stink so bad that I discarded them after the trip.
Another good location for a handwarmer is between your thighs - it will warm the blood flowing through your femoral artery and you will warm up faster in your bag
Just be careful to not let them get trapped somewhere too tight. They can cause some pretty serious burns
You should never put them directly on bare skin. If you always have a layer of cotton or wool between the warmer and your skin, it won't burn you. You'll feel it getting too hot and can get it out long before it will damage your skin.
Really good tips! Just a couple comments. 1. Sweating is okay (and many times cannot be avoided) as long as you change your clothes to clean, dry clothes before you climb into your sleeping bag. Even if you don't believe you sweated during the day, change your clothes! 2. Sleeping pads that are closed cell foam also work very well. Adding a few layers of cardboard or paper below them helps too! I spent 15 years camping with Boy Scouts in all temps in Michigan!
What’s up Dan, tips for beginners are just as important as reminders to the experienced. Good video 👍
Oh my, I'm totally putting that tiny air pump on my wishlist. That is exactly what I didn't know I needed! Especially because (the booth of) my car is tiny, so even when weight isn't a big issue when car camping, size definitely is! Generally great tips in this video
You need a "Left -Handed Smoke Shifter". In Boy Scouts we always carried one.
An important lesson I learned is to be a little more careful about deciding on a campsite when planning a cold weather trip. Just winging it works ok in fair weather and long days, but as darkness is closing in, the snow is flying, and the temp is falling, hunting around for a campsite is a bummer. And plan less ambitious hiking days!
I learned this one the hard way last winter hiking in the Smokey's. I was convinced we would find a beautiful spot at 5,000 feet. Then we got up there and it was like...Nope...blowing snow with temps in the teens. Had to hike back down a couple thousand feet before we could setup.
Right! setting up in the dark (which comes sooner) is less fun.
I love your authenticity immediately dude.
I'm going to do some camping with my kids in the backyard and it's a little cold and one's autistic and a lot of the things you're saying. I know this stuff but with my kids and that unique situation in mind and what bedtime routines are going to be the most advantageous in mind while listening to you go through this stuff it gives me a whole new perspective unique to the situation I'm planning.
Sleeping bag comfort also depends on where you come from and where you go to. Years ago I met a Jamaican lady who was wearing a thick turtleneck sweater in the middle of summer and she was freezing here in Canada, newely arrived. Ha, I told her she's gonna be in for a surprise in winter.
Nice Tips Dan ! One thing I want to add is: A woollen blanket that packs right in your jacket or bag pocket. I have used it since I was a kid and it does wonders. You can use it as a layer or as an insulation beneath you.
I lol'd about the smoke, because it's like every single time out in the bush that smoke just comes after you. So funny. When I'm camping in the cold, I like to pre-warm my sleeping bag by putting a hot water bottle in about a half hour before bedtime. Also wear a toque to bed to keep your noodle warm. It helps a lot
Your body produces a back draft or eddy in the breeze. You move, the smoke moves too.
Best to debark wood snd feed the fire with little wood, often. Less smoke.
It looks like he's the Devil reporting from the very depths of hell, surrounded by smoking brimstone. It does not inspire trust!!
Netting t-shirt. Or whatever it's called. It's great to have on the inside, because it lets air flow, which dries out sweat. At the same time air pockets are made which traps hot air.
Dan - I've camped all my life, however last year was my first year backpacking in cold weather. I succumbed to not putting my batteries in a warm pocket with me in my hammock and top quilt. Yes, dead batteries in the morning. LOL I did remember to snuggly tuck away my water filter though!! Thanks for the insight and tips! -dave
Thanks Dave!
Yup! Even phones! I often slept with my electronics and all batteries near my abdomen to not wake up to dead phone.
Not a backpack camper, but a van camper which is mostly my sleeping pod. For winter I've made the back of my van into a freestanding tent using an 8x10 emergency blanket tarp held to the roof & sides by 3 pvc poles. So far it works well and provides complete privacy inside. I have a medium sized solar blanket that will power a heating pad I can use to keep my core warm which shuts off every 2 hours. Next week it'll get into the 20s at night so I'll test it some more.
Even car campers need these tips. I learned that at Yellowstone. I was greatful I had multiple layers of clothing and multiple layers of bedding. Used a summer sleeping bag zipped, a blanket I had for my dog, plus an unzipped regular sleeping bag. My dog slept at my feet under the blankets and we both stayed warm. Oh and I always put an extra tarp under my tent because it doesn't matter what season it is, the ground is cold. LOL
Sweating is no problem if you change base layer when you’re done working for the night. I always put in a dry merino wool base layer when camp is set.
It is a problem on a multi day hike in the cold. The clothes don't dry, so you have to put them back on wet the next day. Making a fire is, most of the time, not possible. Plus : wet clothes are heavier. It is a problem if you have a lot.
yeah, usually you have to re wear clothes. I'd rather not put on clothes that I had soaked with sweat the previous day.
Have not cold weather camped in years, but I always found that a decent and decently sized wool blanket has a myriad of uses. Especially when cold, damp conditions are a factor. Bit heavy but very resistant to damage from fires and brush. And if you wear it like a kilt, people point at you.
I had a nice mummy bag backpacking in Colorado, slept on the ground, no tent mostly. One night, we're up just below the snowline...somebody is shaking me...I open it up...gale force winds.
"We need help looking for the tents". A couple of them had blown away, the floors stayed because people were sleeping in them but the tops ripped off.
I think, It's dark, we're on a mountainside and they are useless now. Nobody flew away in one.
"No. We'll find them in the morning if anything is left" Closed that thing back up. Couldn't tell a storm was blowing...well not a storm just windy like crazy.
Another great video! My two cents on the subject: go pee before sleep, you don’t want to have to get out of your sleeping bag during the night get cold and then have to get warm again… and bring reusable hand warmers, they can add the little extra comfort you might need, and next day, put them in boiling water and they’re good to go again! Hope it helps! Cheers from France!
I used footwarmers once and took my shoes off and left them in my socks when I went to bed. Bad idea. Foot warmers are calibrated differently from hand warmers in terms of oxygen. So when I took my shoes off and all that new oxygen was available, they got really hot.
Put a pee bottle in your tent. Lightweight Nalgene wide-mouth bottle works best. I've never had to leave my tent to pee.
@@jm-bv1wh I need to experiment around with those pee funnels, try a few different ones, because it sucks so bad having to get out of the tent...and for some reason when I backpack and camp I need to pee 3x through the night whereas at home I sleep through the night. I assume it'll take a bit of time trying it out at home before I'm comfortable using a pee funnel and a bottle inside a tent in the dark ^~^'
My wife and I have used hot water bladders when camping in Idaho during the winter. Wake up a little cold, start the jetboil and toss a hot bladder in by your feet. Works like a charm
Use your pee bottle as the hot water bottle. Don’t let that heat go easily.
And remember the wind chill effect... The temperature on the termostat is not the same as felt temperature with wind! I slept outside in a tent in -22C (-7.6F) but my sergeant said that with wind chill that day the effective felt temperature outside the tent was closer to -37C (-34F). So having a layer that breaks the wind is really important.
Bro Antarctica is -57c , where Tf u been camping
@@harryhumphries72 Northern Norway, way above the arctic circle during winter. But like I said, the temperature was with wind chill effect. Not the air temperature itself.
Few winter sleeping tips from random stranger:
You can put empty backpack over your sleeping bag's feet end to get extra insulation, usually your feet are the coldest part of the body and they are secluded far from your torso as main heat generator.
You might want to put your tomorrow clothes inside your sleeping bag for the night. That way, the clothes are not stupid cold, but lukewarm. This might also apply to your water container if you cannot afford to let it freeze solid, just put it all the way to the bottom of your sleeping bag.
If you got fire and extra heat inside your sleeping bag would be appreciated, wrap a stone from fireplace in some fabric and put it in the feet of sleeping bag. Thinking of this popular comment section tip - you could also do this inside your tent with more stones, without risk of ruining your sleeping bag and without possibly dirtying useful piece of fabric. Just put the stones on layer of sticks.
Also a little note - you should not blow into your mat because of the humidity, thats right. I think you misconcepted the explanation though - the air humidity inside the mat dulls its insulation properties as the humid air conducts the heat better.
Pee bottle rolled down towards your feet in the middle of the night. 🤗
Change your socks before you go to bed. That way you are not wearing sweaty socks that could get cold during the night.
In the military, we'd first lay down visqueen as a vapor barrier, our sleeping pad over that, then both our wool blankets folded in thirds, and finally our ECW sleeping bag. Make sure to fluff the the bag well! Strip down in the bag , and keep your cloths by your feet. One camp was in -20 F, and I was almost too warm all night. In the morning, I only had a 6" melted spot under my hips. Others that didn't follow the training woke up cold, and had huge "deer beds" melted into the ground. You need about 7 times the insulation below you than above you. For car camping, I run a 1.5" neoprene pad with a wool blanket above, and then my military mountain sleeping bag. Works down to about 15 F.
During the winter I feel like the best is to make yourself a quinzhee. The problem is it takes a lot of time.
Thanks for serving and sharing your training and experience . Useful information.
Good tipps 👍🏼 I make also sure to set up the sleeping bag as early as I can, so it unfolds the fibers as good as possible.
And I always make myself feel warm before I go inside. You probably won't start to feel warm if you hop in feeling cold already.
And i have warm wather in a thermos bottle ready to be poored into an uninsulated bottle so it acts as a heatsource.
Tip 8: Always buy an extra long sleeping bag so the bottom an be used for storage particularly for your boots (have a bag to put them in). Tip 9: Use a water bottle that can hold hot water and not leak to bring to bed at night. Makes for a great warm start and gives you safe water in the morning.
Tip 10: use an inexpensive 55° sleeping bag as a liner to save you from having to buy a dedicated winter bag
Tip#1 hydrate .
cold and higher elevation increases the rate of evaporation, you will dehydrate faster
Excellent video! When I went through the Air Force Arctic Survival Course, they told us that the Eskimos had a saying: "To sweat is to die." Since it was -30 F. in Alaska for the course, I have never forgotten that. Also, I liked your layering system. Excepting the brand names, I wore the exact same thing to the summit of Wheeler Peak, New Mexico two weeks ago, and despite the freezing temperatures (23 F. at the summit), 35 mph wind, and ankle deep snow, I was mostly warm. I always enjoy your very informative videos.
Elmendorf is still kicking strong and the damn weather changes by the hour between humid and dry due to the clouds at the elevation in the surrounding area
Alaska is not always a dry cold
I don't think sweating itself is bad. You just have to have dry wool shirt to change after the excercise. Spend a winter in northern Finland in the military. Sometimes you just have to sweat.
I usually boil up some water to put in a thermos before I go to bed in winter time so I dont need to start the morning with melt snow into water. Last time I was out in the winter time it was -4 F or -20 C (up in the north sweden). I took wrong thermos with me this time so the hot water had frozen under the night. So if you want to test if the hot water in the thermos will still be a fluid the day after, put the thermos with hot water in the freezer over night to test it.
Things that work for me: Eat a high calorie snack b4 bed, fresh thick wool socks, fresh clean tight sleeping clothes and hat. All these things together warm you from the inside out and then trap in the heat. Nothing wrong with Hand/body warmers sometimes.
Temperatures don't even need to drop below freezing to be dangerous. One time I was camping in Florida in winter and I didn't think it would get cold so I didn't bring a sleeping bag and all I had was a t-shirt and light denim jacket. I woke up in the middle of the night, shivering uncontrollably, and I eventually had to get up and start a fire and just hang out the rest of the night because I was definitely going into hypothermia. It probably wasn't less than 50°F
It has been my experience that companies usually use survival rating. A wiggys bag is comfort rated, but I don't know about any others. I was just out in my wiggys bag that is 20 degree rated. It was 26 degrees and I was totally comfy. I'm a cold sleeper so if I am warm then the bag is warm.
Regarding layering etc also remember that you do not want cotton, anywhere anytime. The saying is "Cotton kills". Get clothing that will wick moisture away. Super important.
Pillows. I use a down coat for that. When its really cold, be sure to wear a hat.
Site selection is another cold issue. If you can choose a place where you can find leaves to put under your tent that is good. Also, being in the bottom of a valley vs being higher up. Choose higher up. The cold air settles. Just don't get so high you are up in the breezy areas.
Cotton can be useful for windbreaker layer. It's true you don't want cotton close to skin but it works well as outer shell with wool layers underneath.
Been backpacking for 41 years and still learning. 2 years ago I got a bag that plugs into my sleeping pad and you roll it and that pushes the air into the pad. I have asthma and this helps. But I never thought air from my lungs would make the pad colder.
Also when you get a new filter system, realize cold temps can cause a problem. I was at 12,000 last October and my Katadyn 3 liter bag filter and tubes froze. The next several nites I filtered 3 liters and drained the filter and tubes.
i always add 2 bottle of warm water (platypus or other) in water resistant bags (in case the bottle leak) usually one at my feet and one close to my chest. This add a lot of comfort and when you wake up you can drink the warm water (with tea or coffee) to warm you up before leaving the sleeping bag.
Wear a hat or balaclava, fresh dry underwear, dry wool socks or booties, put pillow inside sleeping bag hood or put inside your puffy jacket for warmth, maybe use your clothes bag and youll have warm clothes in am. Put wool socks over hands as mittens and you will be sooo happy. Do light exercise before turning in stretch and pee BEFORE sleeping and if needed have a pee bottle so you don't have to go dress up to tramp to a friendly tree in the dark. My friend actually almost got lost on his pee adventure (newbies dont realize just how dark it can get in the woods), so keep your headlamp around yor neck. Hot water bottle in Ziploc, put water filter there. More happiness and you might even have a warm drink in the morning. Even more happiness. If your bag has a big foot box put shoes in drawstring trash bag so avoid putting on frozen shoes,
Useful tips for me as I'm planning to keep camping over the winter in the UK. The overheating/sweating issue is something i've noticed when actually trying to sleep. I've not done any extreme cold camping so far, but some nights down to maybe 5 C / 40 F. Expecting much colder temperatures later in the night, I shove everything on and in half an hour I'm too hot, but here's the thing - I don't realise it. I'm hot, but I feel cold, because I move and I expose a bit of my overheated, damp body to a draught or a slightly colder bit of the sleeping bag, so I snug everything in even more, and it's a vicious circle. I know the feeling now, like I'm hot and cold at the same time. So, as when setting off on a cold day, it's maybe better to feel slightly chilly and only wrap up more when it gets colder.
Another thing I saw on a video - there's a tendency to put too many layers on our torso and overheat the core temperature - tops and bottoms overlap for one thing, so with 3 layers you can end up with 6 around your middle. The brain reacts to the core temperature getting too hot by trying to cool off, by sweating and opening the blood vessicles in the skin - just what you don't want. I guess in a hypothermic situation, you do everything you can to protect your core temperature, but at more normal temperatures it might be better to pay attention to head, hands and feet, lower legs, arms, etc. But I'm not sure how you avoid that doubling up on the middle other than only wearing onesies, or very short tops!
Super wet and rainy days around 3°C are the hardest to cope with. Cause its really hard to dry yourself with all this condensetion on you. Now I always bring more spare cloths than I need.
A tip if you expect temperature to freeze during the night is to expect your boots to be frozen if they were wet when you went to sleep. So its a good idea to have an extra pair of small shoes / socks. Ive seen a few friends having terrible days because they started their day by putting on frozen boots.
My mistake was "trying not to sweat". Took an overnight trip and I'm a sweaty dude. 5'9 255lbs.
In the morning, I had my down jacket. Once we started hiking 38-44° out, I only had my wool base layer and a t-shirt. It was 40° but I was sweating like it was 70° out.
The first time my wife and I went car camping together nearly 20 years ago we learned quickly the need for a sleeping pad. It was probably late September and temps were not that cold but we learned fast the cold ground sucks the heat out of you. I also started winter hiking for the first time since gyms were closed during the lock downs. After my first hike in the snow I returned with icicles on the brim of my hat. I thought it was cool till I watched a video (maybe one of yours??) that made it clear that I would be in trouble if I'd lost my car keys and was stranded dripping with sweat. I have since learned to layer and slow down when I am stripped down as much as I can. Thanks for the tips!!
In South Texas, we don't get snow often (think once every 10 years or so) but it can get bitterly cold. I was camping with my troop once and we were near the Guadalupe River. It got down to 8 degrees, but the the wind chill was even colder.
Tip 1: If you can avoid camping near water when it's cold, do it. The air off the water will only increase the wind chill factor.
Tip 2: This wasn't really covered, but if your sleeping bag is properly rated, DON'T wear clothes to bed. It can cause you to sweat, which will only make the clothes your wearing damp.
Tip 3: This is counter intuitive, but open the vents of your tent! You'd think you want them closed so you limit the cold air getting to you, but really it's allowing the air to flow. I've closed the vents before and the moisture from my lungs while sleeping actually froze on the inside of my tent.
I loved that the first recommendation is to avoid sweating, a problem that affects also and even in a worse manners bikers. That's why, when leaving for a trip, I first get my bike totally ready with all the luggage and stuff ready to go and only then I take a bath/shower and get dressed for the ride. Same when I camp. I get my camp completely ready to sleep and then I shower and get dressed for the night with dry clothes as hoc for sleeping, not riding.
I lived in Wyoming years ago and did alot of cross country skiing. In cross country its a very big deal to learn how to be a quick change artist, its essential. Start out with what you came with. After you start down your snowie trail, you start peeling off layer by layer. Then when you stop for a break, you put some of it back on, then as you go again, off it comes. Your layers have to be handy, effective and light weight. I often had a light wind beaker around my waist to slip on when I stopped. As soon as I feel my skin feel cool, and my clothes, no long steam, means my clothes are becoming dry. Then I'll put on the wind breaker until I'll start again.
Your right you have to be aware of what your body is doing, and work around it.
"Plenty of blankets below - he'd been told. But Tommy knew better - and so he got cold." Wisdom from the 1918 edition of "Scouting for Boys."
One mistanke ive made where using a propane stove outside in -15 degrees celsius..... Used a lot of fuel and bareley got my water to boil, compared to my buddy next to me using a multifuel burner, it worked slow and used a lot more fuel..... You live u learn
I would add bring more cloths than you normally do in case things get wet, spare socks, gloves, hat, and a fresh mid layer set to sleep in. I also really like a set of polar-guard boots after a day trudging on snowshoes.
Dan! Wow I can't believe I found you on RUclips! Lol show everyone your cricket impression! Lol I haven't seen you since the old Impact days!
Wow! Small world! Hope you’re well!!!
Good tips. Particularly, don’t believe sleeping bag temperature ratings. Though not sure that using your breath to blow up mattress is a mistake- moisture content of the trapped air makes little difference to insulation- for me anyway. Also real pillow, bulkier and heavier. Take an Inflated pillow and use the weight saved to offset taking a warm hat that you wear in bed. Good stuff. In ultra cold, could mention using a vapour barrier to stop your sweat passing through and freezing on the outer layers.
Love the geese in the background! Nothin else screams FALL in southern Canada/Northern USA like migrating geese!
When sleeping in the cold make sure to try to go to the bathroom (number 1 or 2, or both) before you go to sleep for the night. Your body naturally keeps your urine and fecal matter warm. Therefore your body spends more energy keeping those things inside your body warm, instead of distributing that heat to other places in your body. This also applies if you wake up at 3:00 AM with the dreaded urge to pee in negative temps and meters of snow outside of your tent. As much as it sucks, you've just gotta get up, get dressed, and get it over with. You'll be way warmer throughout the night, trust me.
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Need a collapsible urine container so you can stay in the tent. Much more convenient for winter camping.
I have used a sun reflection pad from automotive windshield to sleep on. Work great
It's a good idea to do a trial run with all equipment in the expected type of conditions. I bought a quilt rated to 20 degrees, I set up my tent in a snow storm with wet sleet in my yard and tried out the quilt. I woke up shivering at 32 degrees. I bought another quilt from another company, a 10 degree quilt that many reviewers said was comfortable below zero. When I tried it out at home I was toasty all night with temps that went down to 18 degrees. Had I stuck with the first quilt or failed to try it out in the cold I would have been miserable in the snow in the Sierra Nevada Mountains at high altitude. Similarly setting up my tent in a storm showed me what was needed to keep dry, keep the tent dry as well as my gear. One lesson was to absolutely know where I had stored the stakes, to have all the adjustments pre set on the tent and to have a cover of some sort to place over my pack. a light weight clear plastic poncho works well. I had occasion on my back pack to set up in serious downpour with hail and dropping temps and was really glad I had learned how to do it.
I wasn't bold enough to do that lol. I just turned the heat off in the house...
@@franny5295 Works if your unheated house reaches the temps you will be experiencing on the trail. I crawled into a down sleeping bag in an AZ mid summer. However that wasn't to test temps, rather I was testing fit. It was claustraphobic so back it went and I went to using a quilt.
Did this when I was in the Army in Vermont, before going to sleep warm up a Nalgene of water, put your socks around it for the next day and throw it in your sleeping back. keeps those socks warm for the next morning and keeps the bag warm all night.
I would definitely add the importance of managing condensation vs ventilation, especially with respect to sleep system. Something warm at the beginning of the night can turn into a soggy mess by the end of the night. Another thing would be understanding how to correctly use a mylar energency blanket to reflevt heat. If you are backpacking in unpredictable conditions, it's worth the weight consideration or having a secondary thermarest with this feature, especially if you are in a valley or canyon because they create their own convection system and can get colder overnight. Mylar under your pad will reflect your body heat back and can be helpful if you find yourself in an unforcasted storm sutuation suddenly and unexpectedly colder than what you were prepared for (e.g. freak summer snow). Additionally, adding a bag liner can also help add 5°-15° to a sleeping bag and are good to have if you are in a scenario when the weather can get iffy. An emergency bivy can also be helpful, but make sure it breathes so ypu stay dry.
I was wondering about reflection to protect heat, Mylar under your pad, could also be over one or lining a tent.
Good advice. Below freezing does present risks for hypothermia, but most serious cases take place around 50 degrees. Fifty and wet with exhaustion trumps most temp ratings.
One of my best tips for cold weather camping is to take a hot water bottle with you, even in the Spring/Summer, here in the UK, the temp during the night can still drop. I fill mine with the hot water left over from my last cup of tea for the evening, by the time I get in my sleeping bag, it's really toasty and helps retain the warmth inside the bag until the morning.
I've used my army canteen bottle. Just saves on bag space. Two pairs of wool socks.
You can also use it to pee in the middle of the night, and then snuggle with it.
@@garki1369 Actually, not a bad idea. Just remember what's in it before you make tea in the morning!
@@davidcox3076 Lolol! Otherwise it’s “pee tea”
Great video and all good points! I would add one thing and that is to put on a change of clothes when going to bed. Especially socks and underwear. I bring sweatpants, a separate sweatshirt and a hat too. Even if you don’t seem to sweat, your clothes do pick up oils and such. The drier you and your clothes are, the warmer you will be when sleeping in the cold.
With the whole layering thing-- also wear clothing made out of the right material as well. Wool is the best for next to the skin, since it will wick moisture, and it naturally adjusts to varying temperatures. It also retains most of its insulating properties even when wet, so you won't freeze even if you are sweaty.
I've found wool to be more comfortable over a broader range of temperatures than any other material.
@@finnberglander7816 That's why I suggested it. Light weight wool is good for warmer weather or layering in cold weather, and heavier weight wool for cold weather. There's a reason why people used to wear it so much before we started making synthetic fabrics. Wool, cotton, and linen were the staple fabrics up until recently.
can't stand wool! Never used it for camping. Other materials worked best for me, but I guess that's just personal.
I have definitely made the sleeping bad mistake. I upgraded the bag and Now I keep a wool blanket so I don’t have the heat pulled out from under me.
Keep warm and camp on. 🤙🏼
arm pit zippers are a great feature on outer layers
I have a sleeping bag that is big enough for my sleeping pad to slide into, and I have a fleece sleeve that the sleeping pad filled bag can slide into. I have never had a cold night. The fleece sleeve is nice to drape over my legs or wrap around my shoulders while I eat, it rolls up to be a nice pillow, or it can be an extra layer of cush between me and my sleeping pad when it isn't so cold. I don't care how much space this takes up in my pack - I want to sleep warm!
Depending on the weather that you are camping in, I would probably talk about the importance of bringing your boots, water source/hydration bladder, and any electronics you have with you into your tent. My first winter backpacking trip in the snow, my boots were literally frozen solid, my bladder was a block of ice, and my electronics all died cuz of the cold. Made for an extremely miserable and tedious morning, which ended up in my group missing our objective for the next day since we had to thaw out our boots over the stove. Also, keeping your boots dry is super important, once again if you dont wan't it to freeze. Between using a vapour barrier and gaiters, its an absolute game changer!
Me: "I'm just gonna move over here to get out of the smoke."
The Fire: "The hell you are..."
You might ad to that that you should keep your tent well ventilated.
Might sound a little counterintuitive
But nothing worse than damp gear because of condensation
There's more to add to this. If you keep the inside layer more ventilated than the outside (i.e. zip up the fly, but leave the ventilation open for the core part of the tent), you can force the condensation to form on the inside of the tent fly, instead of the living area of the tent, keeping you nice and dry. This is because condensation forms at the coldest locations, and your body keeps the tent interior slightly warmer than outside.
Remember to take any gear that you don't want damp inside the tent, though, so dirty boots? Wrap them in an old T-shirt or something to keep the dirt contained and bring them inside with you!
Also, if the core of the tent ever reaches the temperature of outside, dew will form in there too, so keep that in mind if you have an itching for a midnight walk.
Framing houses in Oklahoma winter, when it's icy and snowy, I stuff hand warmers in the toes of my work boots. Works amazingly well.
I've sewed a pillow slip, one for warm and one for cold, for my blow up pillow. First it keeps the pillow from siding around and second it adds some insulation value.
The water filter tip is a really good one. I never thought of that, I've also never done any cold weather camping but may do some 3rd season camping soon ish.
The Thermarest pillow is amazing. It is as comfortable as a home pillow in bed. I tried different air pillows and didn't like sleeping on a balloon. That Thermarest is where it's at, I'll take the hit to weight and space for the comfort.
I’m just starting out and went for my first camp recently. Kept my phone on the tent floor over night and wondered why I hardly had any battery in the morning 😒. Won’t make that mistake again! Thanks for the tips
Couple o crucial oversights here. No mention of the importance of head gear: all thr blood circulates thru the neck and scalp every 2 to for minuites. It is the body’s radiator. And can be used to regulate therms in either direction. Moisture. Just adding and removing layers is not the complete story. Ability to vent is important. Clothing with crotch and pit zips help as well as the zippers up front. In layering, why a tee shirt. When it is cold a wicking longlseve underlayer is de rigour. Turtle neck with zipper. About that fire smoke. Wherever you sit influences air eddying due to the idea that heat rises. Also it was a good time to mention that when you sit facing a fire there is a heat gradient between the front and back of the body. The back gets chill and boom discomfort leads to more imballance as you feed the flames. Night insul is strongly influenced by moisture retention. When it is cold , a vapor barrier added inside the bag stabilizes heat loss thru evapouration. Tune for ballance so that you do not begin sweat. Persperation will be reduced if moisture does not escape out of the bag. a bivi sack added out side the bag adds significant RValue. No mention that snow never gets below 32 degrees F. It can be the warmest thing around in the outside environment and many unsurvivable bivis have been survived by burrowing into it. Stay out of the wind. Iven if everything gets wet you can wake up in the morning if you manage to keep all your body heat from being blown away. Finally, and this one is a bit of a reach but it is a fact of thermondynamics. Heat will go from where it is to where it is not. Clear night sky is an infinite heat sink. All year around! In winter this one convection cell can kill you. If you are outside, Cover your face with something non conductive. This is not a factor under an overcast. Or innthe trees.
The steers to appropriate products is good on its face and everyone has to make aliving, but this has the feeling of an infomercial for backcountry, which is a great outlet with competitive prices and whose gear heads have never been able to provide me with much actionable intel. Besides these quibbles, i give you a thumbs up for the incentive. But there is alot more to it. Sometimes in a pinch you have to sleep in shifts or if alone just stay awake till dawn. Inotherwords have some fun.. no guts no good story
Thank you for your knowledge
While the ground can "suck that heat right out of you", the ground can be warmer than the air. It is a problem because the sleeping bag insulation is compressed by your weight and is much less effective than the insulation above you. That 20 degree bag may only be a 50 degree where you are laying on it. Ask any hammock camper. No ground contact but they will use a underquilt or a pad to keep the bottom side warm.
looks like both airflow (under the hammock) and the ground are heatsinks
I personally use a inflatable pad on a cot, while inside my sleeping bag. I sleep like a baby in a 3 season tent. No buddy heater. I’ve not tried this in below 20 f weather. But at 28 f it worked great.
Did a late season (November) elk trip in Wyoming and used a combination of an insulated switchback pad and insulated air pad with my Nemo 20 deg bag, stayed warm at 12deg. Great tips!
About R-Values: you can roughly calculate the R-Value or your ground insulation by just adding up those of everything you sleep on.
So if you got an old but good 3-season-pad already like a thermarest self inflating one (like I do) and you don't want to invest a ton of money in a new one just to try out winter camping you just bring one or two of the good old foam mats (depending on their thickness) and put them under your pad. This was warm enough for me and also my girlfriend in slight freezing conditions.
Also I had tried to put three layers of mylar or such a foamy aluminium windshield cover under or between the layered mats. I cannot say how much that does improve the whole thing as I had no intention to try without while camping in the snow but you might want to give it a try. ;-)
It might also be a good idea to build a bed of twigs under sleeping site or even under you whole tent, if you have one.
Speaking of tents: make sure to use one with really good ventilation, you'll have a lot of condensation and wet=cold!
I'm thinking of just bringing a tarp next time and making a longfire in front of it.
This video has taught me a few things, but probably the single biggest illumination is that I need a bigger bag.
Empty air filled structures have R values, an empty wall has a R value of 3 (~2 inches). Also they are additive, so that pillow with your sleeping bag is adding to the overall value (and your pad)
Except that an unobstructed cavity like an inflated pillow can develop a convection current, so it brings cool air toward the spot that's being warmed by your head and shoulder.
I agree. My uninsulated pillow is very warm on my very insulated pad.
Good tips and many great suggestions in the comments!
While I have somehow ended up with two hiking pillows in my possession (neither of which I have bought), I rarely use them, because a great insulating pillow can be made with the stuff you already have: Pull your sleeping bags stuffsack inside out (so the compression straps are now inside the bag) and stuff it with your down&puffy jacket - voila!
Another thing to note is that you need REALLY good ventilation in a tent in freezing condition, otherwise the water vapor from your breath will freeze and you'll wake to a tent full of frost that could have fallen on your sleeping bag/pad, melted and made it wet.
My biggest tip with staying warm overnight is to eat a big meal right before you sleep, preferably a slow burning carb like oatmeal or brown rice etc. Gets the internal furnace going and helps you stay warm throughout the night !
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This advice is perhaps the most important and the most common one that is not taken into account when spending the night in the woods in winter. Even if you have the best sleeping bag and sleeping pad, they won't keep you warm if your body doesn't have the energy to produce heat. It is the most common mistake that novice hikers make. Of course, you need to have the right gear for cold conditions, but it's easy to imagine that gear is just about keeping you warm. The sleeping bag only acts as insulation, and the heat produced by the body actually keeps you warm.
After 30+ years of using the same bag, plus a couple others I've added for other conditions, I'm convinced that the temperature rating is a number that, when new, the bag will keep you alive at that temp.
Adding a blanket or extra bag inside the bag can add (subtract?) another 10 degrees or so. Wearing clean thermals to bed is a wonderful idea--I have taught my offspring to always change clothes before getting in their bags--and dress for the temperature. And yes, keep tomorrow's clothes in to get warm--they make a great pillow.
i remember the first time i camped in the cold. i slept like i normally would at home in just in short and i woke up freezing, i never made that mistake after that i even heated a bottle of water put it in my sleeping bag it helped alot
I went to a fall campout with my thermarest corus 32 degree camping quilt. A 1.4 r rated sleeping pad a camping hammock saw the temps were in the mid to high 40’s thinking ai was golden because I’m a warm sleeper. There was nowhere to hang my hammock and the campsite was in a bowl. The last time I was that cold was sleeping on a rock at St Patricks Well in Ireland. I was cold the next night too.
It doesn’t have to be freezing or below for hypothermia to be a concern. An ambient temperature of 50 degrees F is the threshold. Without proper equipment and depending on other weather conditions, even temperatures of 60 degrees F can be dangerous.
pine needles and leaves under your tent/ pad can help insulate you from the ground + it makes the ground a little more comfortable
Remember to be extra careful to keep your down sleeping bags dry. Moisture can cause the down to collapse and you lose some if not all of the insulation value. I know hydraphobic down is better but I usually go synthetic when even the possibility of down failure can be fatal.
Super helpful video! People should avoid cots while camping in the fall/winter! I was camping as a kid and my parents didn’t even know that. I had a terrible night, cold the entire time.
The big reason for losing insulation underneath you is your weight, smashing feathers or foam Cancels the insulation rating because there is no air pockets left to do the installation. While rigid rest and other airfield pads do not crush under the weight of your body as much keeping the R-value up.
I cant begin to explain how important a sleeping pad is, 2013 Afghanistan I was sleeping on the floor with just my sleeping bag freezing my a#$ off, next night I used my iso mat and the difference was day n night, I was actually sweating from how warm I was. Trust me use that sleeping pad/mat