OH, AND BY THE WAY!! We have another way to enjoy all my videos in my life’s work as a separate option for premium and it is called “RETRIEVE” which is a new SEARCH TECHNOLOGY for instant access straight into the time stamp on any and all golf subjects in my work. Here is the link! wisdomingolf.retrieve.com/store/#/
Thank you for this video. I play with exactly the same grip as Sav and play a 5 yard fade. Last year I wanted to get some lessons and tried out a couple different instructors and each one IMMEDIATELY wanted me to completely rebuild my grip from the ground up. It seems everything I read is proof there are great players that play with all sorts of different grips. You're the first channel I've seen teaching players with a grip that makes sense to me and I appreciate it.
Yes sir!! Because our channel is all dynamically inclined human being delivering golf balls to target flight plans with simple tasks that don’t require any thinking; JUST CLARITY!!
Thank you, RH, I naturally draw the ball , strong grip, draw stance but then just move entire stance just a smish to the right which IMHO cases the face to be just a little negative to path which I projected that with fade just do opposite, move a littler back of normal tee position t possible create a positive face to path. This is why your video peeked my attention . Thank you for the corroboration. Will try out on range and let u know. If you ever do another power fade video, please include face on view in addition t down the line to clearly see what a little off center means. Great video.
I have been trying over the last 2 years to train a good swing. I watched a few of your videos, the concept of which I instantly knew would work for me. I hadn’t hit any shots only swung the club in my living room. I played today and shot -4 for 16 holes. ( missed my tee time and joined the guys at the 3rd) I hit 13 greens in regulation. two I missed I skinned through the greens, the other I missed was the last but my tee shot went too far under a tree. I pitched in for birdie 3. 😏 I also hit the ball off the tee, without a word of a lie, 20-30 yards further than normal. I don’t normally write anything on RUclips but felt I had to say thank you for your really simple method. 🙏🏻👍🏻👊🏻
Shawn, your videos are absolutely fantastic! I've only played two rounds so far but from where my game was to where it is now, it's all thanks to your easy teaching and techniques. Who knew it could really be this easy. Certainly not me, but it is now!
Playing for years, trying different things, recently struggling a lot. Tried stronger grip last year but some things were obviously missing .Watched few of your videos. went to driving range today, changed grip to strong and start thinking about throwing a club on target . Never hit better and more consistent in my life. Thank you !
Great video Shawn. I recently stumbled on your channel and I can’t get enough of watching your instruction. I love golf but simply am not very good at it. I can hook shots I can slice shots and I can rarely hit straight. I know now that my lower body is not as active as it should be. The grip that Sav uses I think would work well for me because I slice a lot and sometimes I push slice real bad. I jus think my grip isn’t very strong. Once the snow clears in Saskatchewan, Canada I plan to use the tools that I’ve learned from your video and Savs grip to see how my shots will be. This video explains the shot shape perfectly. Keep the videos coming I really enjoy them!
I understand the ball position & grip with regards to short/mid irons. How does that translate to long irons/woods/drivers? Where is the ball position?
This is super old school and it has never worked properly; the key is you have a flight plan, you have an intermediate point to help you deliver into the flight plan, then when you deliver your action into the direction you want to start the ball, your GRIP-CLUB RELATIONSHIP is such that the flight will happen the way that you predict it will. Please see “predict perfect contact and direction shawn clement” and “how to put the ball in the way of your swing shawn clement golf wrx”
Nice work so far. I like what you have to offer, Would be great if you could just give really concise instruction somewhere up front in the first few minutes.
Thanks for this video, it was really helpful. I have always struggled to hit a fade. One thing I still don’t understand in terms of the intermediate point is this: do I set up square to my target and then try to swing just to the right of it to hit a draw or just to the left for a fade (right handed). Or do I set up aimed slightly to the right of the intermediate point and then try to swing square to that line so that my club travels just to the right of it for a draw or same thing for a fade, aim slightly left of intermediate point and swing square to that line?
Thank again! Is it possible I feel more confortable with a stronger grip with long irons and more “neutral” with wedges? Should I experiment with different grips with different clubs?
Chip and pitch more open or “neutral”; and as soon as you get into a fuller range of motion with a full activation of the kinetic chain, then you need to solidify and make the grip stronger.
Once you understand how to play with a super strong grip, a fade is honestly easier to hit...with a draw it's sort of hard to get the right relationship face to path for me but fade, just open my front foot and don't let it turn over...simple
Awesome post! The fade flight plan into the target is the preferred shot on tour. Some of my students have to have a stronger grip with the fade as they move better through the ball and out into the direction they want to start the ball more effectively. Which means stronger grip! 👍😀👌💪
Hey Shawn, you all are awesome! Which swing training aide do you use with the speed "click" indicator? Sav was using it in one of your videos and I believe you said it was set at 102 mph.
Cool stuff huh? This is the power of task and the practice of delivering the task into her targets and allowing the anatomy to evolve around it. Her’s is the “throwing of the club through the “arc-blur” in the direction of the intermediate point with a nice attacking action that is easy to produce. The “blur of club” video as well as the “throwing series” and “arc-blur” videos can be found on our premium channel at www.wisdomingolfpremium.com and it’s only $9.95 per month.
@@golflessons Cool, thanks for that. Do u think the next stage of her development is to have the trial arm more bent at impact to have a more stable release? The theory I see around a lot is that the best players save a bit of trial arm so they are still accelerating power and keeping stability through impact. I find this helpful myself.
@@briantimlin2650 already happening! i have been teaching the “through the ball move” for decades! 😀👍 See my channel and in the recent videos we have a video that features that! 👌
THIS DOES NOT MATTER AT ALL. What matters is when she delivers her action in the direction her ball wants to start, that the ball curve in the air the way she wants it to. We are in a dynamic world and that is the world you want to live in. The static “paint by numbers” world of golf is slowly and painfully finally starting to sputter!!
Hi Shawn....question on a power fade (more like a push fade) where the path is in to out (like a draw) but slightly more open face ....what is the correct ball position if you are trying to hit a push fade with an in to out swing path....a video on this would be great thanx
Hi Lynne! It is different than you think; what you want to do is choose a flight plan first and then an intermediate point to help you deliver into that flight plan; then match the set up to the initial direction you want to start the ball and then deliver your task-action that way. See “predict perfect contact and direction shawn clement” and “how to put the ball in the way of your swing shawn clement golf wrx” and “how to match backswing to target shawn clement”. On the premium channel, it would be “predict contact” and “the goldie locks series” and “match backswing to ball direction”
Shawn, IMPORTANT QUESTION! 😁 Very interesting video, thank you.👏 However, do you recommend holding the face open through impact when trying to fade the ball, as opposed to allowing the same release feeling that you have on a draw? I have found that I need to do this as well as weaken my grip when I want to fade the ball, rather than keep my regular strong grip. Otherwise when I aim a little left the ball tends to go left, usually relatively straight without fading!! Keen to hear your response, this is really important for me! Cheers, Pete
Thanks! From your recommended video I gather the weakening of the grip is ok and I just need to match the backswing/downswing path with the direction I want the ball to start on. Makes sense! 🙏👍
One other possibility for why Mu's ball isn't coming back is that, unless there some misreading from the GC Quad, 7 degree toe down is going to be really hard to overcome.
Not at all! This is a major misconception!! I have several top amateurs here at the club who have this very same case! They draw at will and never push the ball; one is a classic puller when missing the shot which is focus based. He went to TXG to get it corrected and could absolutely not hit the ball with jis corrected clubs at 4 degrees up which brought him to 3 degrees toe down; an ABSOLUTE DISASTER!! Please wipe these misconceptions from your mind, they are now officially in the past.
I kicked a ball once in my life. He insulted my wife.She spit tobacco in his eye and kicked him with her combat boots .Speaking of balls tomorrow I will embark on my mission to purchase some golfballs. Two boxes should be fine for my upcoming golf trip. All manufacturers have the same claims. We have all heard these claims long ,soft and low spin blah, blah,blah. Should I just go to my local golf store plunk down the $80. and walk out with two boxes of prov1's ? Welp my question is why in the heck don't we have ball fitting programs. I'm sure there is a perfect ball for every swing speed out there. There are definitely differences in feel and performance. The problem is they want to market to the masses. The second issue is there is little money to be made. I wonder how they would react if I showed up with my golf clubs at the nearest golf store and asked to be fit for a box of golfballs. I would probably need to take my wife with me for intimidation purposes. All four hundred pounds of her all whiskeyed up. Great video ! Thank yinz
Monday Wisdom! I like to put a small mirror up to the screen to turn Savvy around right handed. It looks perfect then LOL! What iron was Mu using? Because it carried 208!
Here is what I do Shawn. 1. Find my target. 2. slightly adjust my feet right or left of my target line and then swing along my foot angle keeping the club square to the target line. Is this incorrect? It works but it's not consistent. I guess that means it doesn't work! hahahahaha. Kevin O'Rourke
😝😝That is old school “STATIC SET UP” See “predict perfect contact and direction shawn clement” and “how to put the ball in the way of your swing shawn clement” On premium the titles are “predict contact” and the “goldie locks series” and “fade fine tuning” and “draw fine tuning”
wrote it before. you need to show excerses with a righthanded golfer. mirror a movement is really hard I spend a whole year switching from left end to right end position at football
Why do we, you need to fade/draw the golf ball, why not just try and hit it straight, no need to change grip, stance ect, get your neutral grip and let it rip, works with practice but hey just my opinion, good luck out there.
She is on a terrific fitness program with her boyfriend Munashe (Mu for short) who is certified with TPI and more importantly with “GOLFITPRO” and Nick Randall who coaches Cameron Smith on the PGA tour. It is the best program we have seen out there bar none and Mu is now certified with Nick! Contact Mu at masawiisrael@gmail.com
@@golflessons some of them yes, but not all of them. I don't mind the odd add, I get that creators are trying to make $, but it felt like it was a noteable distraction from enjoying the video. 👍
OH, AND BY THE WAY!!
We have another way to enjoy all my videos in my life’s work as a separate option for premium and it is called “RETRIEVE” which is a new SEARCH TECHNOLOGY for instant access straight into the time stamp on any and all golf subjects in my work. Here is the link! wisdomingolf.retrieve.com/store/#/
That's such a beautiful shot...thats a true power fade...more or less it's actually a straight shot that just trickles rigjt on the way down
Good stuff Mark! Thanks for the great comment! 👍😀
Thank you for this video. I play with exactly the same grip as Sav and play a 5 yard fade. Last year I wanted to get some lessons and tried out a couple different instructors and each one IMMEDIATELY wanted me to completely rebuild my grip from the ground up. It seems everything I read is proof there are great players that play with all sorts of different grips. You're the first channel I've seen teaching players with a grip that makes sense to me and I appreciate it.
Yes sir!! Because our channel is all dynamically inclined human being delivering golf balls to target flight plans with simple tasks that don’t require any thinking; JUST CLARITY!!
On power fade, what does forward of center mean? Center of stance?
Correct! 😀👍
Thank you, RH, I naturally draw the ball , strong grip, draw stance but then just move entire stance just a smish to the right which IMHO cases the face to be just a little negative to path which I projected that with fade just do opposite, move a littler back of normal tee position t possible create a positive face to path. This is why your video peeked my attention . Thank you for the corroboration. Will try out on range and let u know. If you ever do another power fade video, please include face on view in addition t down the line to clearly see what a little off center means. Great video.
My apology, I was talking about the driver primarily. Still just a forward of center?
I have been trying over the last 2 years to train a good swing. I watched a few of your videos, the concept of which I instantly knew would work for me. I hadn’t hit any shots only swung the club in my living room. I played today and shot -4 for 16 holes. ( missed my tee time and joined the guys at the 3rd) I hit 13 greens in regulation. two I missed I skinned through the greens, the other I missed was the last but my tee shot went too far under a tree. I pitched in for birdie 3. 😏 I also hit the ball off the tee, without a word of a lie, 20-30 yards further than normal. I don’t normally write anything on RUclips but felt I had to say thank you for your really simple method. 🙏🏻👍🏻👊🏻
Boom!!! Love my job!! Thank you for the great feedback and will be looking for my 10% 😝😝😂😂
Shawn, your videos are absolutely fantastic! I've only played two rounds so far but from where my game was to where it is now, it's all thanks to your easy teaching and techniques. Who knew it could really be this easy. Certainly not me, but it is now!
Awesome my man!! Glad to hear you are enjoying and internalizing some good golf wisdom! 😀👍💪👌
Wonderfully simple. Love you guys!
Thanks so much!
Man you are pumping out some quality content at the moment.. Sav and Mu are great helpers as well..
Thank you so much man! I love my job so much!! 😀👍❤️
Mo Norman best ever at hitting straight
Moe was the best at working the ball and the tolerances of his shots were such that they LOOKED STRAIGHT!!!
Playing for years, trying different things, recently struggling a lot. Tried stronger grip last year but some things were obviously missing .Watched few of your videos. went to driving range today, changed grip to strong and start thinking about throwing a club on target . Never hit better and more consistent in my life. Thank you !
You are so welcome!! Nice acquisition of golf wisdom today! 👍💪👌😀🎯
Shawn awesome info ty
Any time!
Great video Shawn. I recently stumbled on your channel and I can’t get enough of watching your instruction. I love golf but simply am not very good at it. I can hook shots I can slice shots and I can rarely hit straight. I know now that my lower body is not as active as it should be. The grip that Sav uses I think would work well for me because I slice a lot and sometimes I push slice real bad. I jus think my grip isn’t very strong. Once the snow clears in Saskatchewan, Canada I plan to use the tools that I’ve learned from your video and Savs grip to see how my shots will be. This video explains the shot shape perfectly. Keep the videos coming I really enjoy them!
Right on prairie man!! 👍😀💪👌
Great instruction once again.
I understand the ball position & grip with regards to short/mid irons. How does that translate to long irons/woods/drivers? Where is the ball position?
See “ball position bible shawn clement” video
just a quick question from the UK. does the clubface always face the target at address for either the fade or draw. thank you
This is super old school and it has never worked properly; the key is you have a flight plan, you have an intermediate point to help you deliver into the flight plan, then when you deliver your action into the direction you want to start the ball, your GRIP-CLUB RELATIONSHIP is such that the flight will happen the way that you predict it will. Please see “predict perfect contact and direction shawn clement” and “how to put the ball in the way of your swing shawn clement golf wrx”
@@golflessons great question even better answer... Shawn your the man!!!
So need to open and close the face, just moving it forward or back in the stance takes care of that?
Fade you aim left of target-swing left of target with ball forward of centre
Draw you aim at the target-swing right of target with ball back of centre
Visited my local club champion today.
Impressive ! :)
Very good business!! Great service!!
Great video Shawn. Any chance you will be back in Florida for teacing this year?
Shawn, used this today for my entire round and hit some great looking fades, a little unnerving at first.
Thanks.
Nice work so far. I like what you have to offer, Would be great if you could just give really concise instruction somewhere up front in the first few minutes.
Thanks for this video, it was really helpful. I have always struggled to hit a fade. One thing I still don’t understand in terms of the intermediate point is this: do I set up square to my target and then try to swing just to the right of it to hit a draw or just to the left for a fade (right handed). Or do I set up aimed slightly to the right of the intermediate point and then try to swing square to that line so that my club travels just to the right of it for a draw or same thing for a fade, aim slightly left of intermediate point and swing square to that line?
See “hit a honkin’ draw to hit straight shawn clement” and my earlier oldies but goodies “draw and fade shawn clement”
To simplify for everyone, the draw or fade is all about the relation of your club face to your club path. Open to path = fade, closed to path = draw.
Thank again! Is it possible I feel more confortable with a stronger grip with long irons and more “neutral” with wedges? Should I experiment with different grips with different clubs?
Chip and pitch more open or “neutral”; and as soon as you get into a fuller range of motion with a full activation of the kinetic chain, then you need to solidify and make the grip stronger.
Once you understand how to play with a super strong grip, a fade is honestly easier to hit...with a draw it's sort of hard to get the right relationship face to path for me but fade, just open my front foot and don't let it turn over...simple
Awesome post! The fade flight plan into the target is the preferred shot on tour. Some of my students have to have a stronger grip with the fade as they move better through the ball and out into the direction they want to start the ball more effectively. Which means stronger grip! 👍😀👌💪
Are we going to see these two on the course this summer actually scoring?
You betya!!!
Hey Shawn, you all are awesome! Which swing training aide do you use with the speed "click" indicator? Sav was using it in one of your videos and I believe you said it was set at 102 mph.
The Swing Caddy swing trainer from Swing Impact; you can order on our website at www.wisdomingolf.com and go to the “proshop” page! 😀👍
Savs pivot is so much better than last year, very impressive. How did she improve her legwork and hip clearance so much Shawn?
Cool stuff huh? This is the power of task and the practice of delivering the task into her targets and allowing the anatomy to evolve around it. Her’s is the “throwing of the club through the “arc-blur” in the direction of the intermediate point with a nice attacking action that is easy to produce.
The “blur of club” video as well as the “throwing series” and “arc-blur” videos can be found on our premium channel at www.wisdomingolfpremium.com and it’s only $9.95 per month.
@@golflessons Cool, thanks for that. Do u think the next stage of her development is to have the trial arm more bent at impact to have a more stable release? The theory I see around a lot is that the best players save a bit of trial arm so they are still accelerating power and keeping stability through impact. I find this helpful myself.
@@briantimlin2650 already happening! i have been teaching the “through the ball move” for decades! 😀👍
See my channel and in the recent videos we have a video that features that! 👌
With Sav's strong grip, is her club face closed to the target at setup or is it square?
THIS DOES NOT MATTER AT ALL. What matters is when she delivers her action in the direction her ball wants to start, that the ball curve in the air the way she wants it to. We are in a dynamic world and that is the world you want to live in. The static “paint by numbers” world of golf is slowly and painfully finally starting to sputter!!
Hi Shawn....question on a power fade (more like a push fade) where the path is in to out (like a draw) but slightly more open face ....what is the correct ball position if you are trying to hit a push fade with an in to out swing path....a video on this would be great thanx
Hi Lynne! It is different than you think; what you want to do is choose a flight plan first and then an intermediate point to help you deliver into that flight plan; then match the set up to the initial direction you want to start the ball and then deliver your task-action that way. See “predict perfect contact and direction shawn clement” and “how to put the ball in the way of your swing shawn clement golf wrx” and “how to match backswing to target shawn clement”.
On the premium channel, it would be “predict contact” and “the goldie locks series” and “match backswing to ball direction”
Shawn, IMPORTANT QUESTION! 😁
Very interesting video, thank you.👏
However, do you recommend holding the face open through impact when trying to fade the ball, as opposed to allowing the same release feeling that you have on a draw?
I have found that I need to do this as well as weaken my grip when I want to fade the ball, rather than keep my regular strong grip. Otherwise when I aim a little left the ball tends to go left, usually relatively straight without fading!!
Keen to hear your response, this is really important for me!
Cheers, Pete
See “how to match the backswing to target shawn clement” if the backswing is too inside for the fade, you will struggle!
Thanks! From your recommended video I gather the weakening of the grip is ok and I just need to match the backswing/downswing path with the direction I want the ball to start on. Makes sense! 🙏👍
One other possibility for why Mu's ball isn't coming back is that, unless there some misreading from the GC Quad, 7 degree toe down is going to be really hard to overcome.
Not at all! This is a major misconception!! I have several top amateurs here at the club who have this very same case! They draw at will and never push the ball; one is a classic puller when missing the shot which is focus based. He went to TXG to get it corrected and could absolutely not hit the ball with jis corrected clubs at 4 degrees up which brought him to 3 degrees toe down; an ABSOLUTE DISASTER!! Please wipe these misconceptions from your mind, they are now officially in the past.
When it says 5 degrees closed is that closed relative to target or closed to path?
This awesome machine (GC Quad from Foresight sports) can give you both! Cannot remember what setting it was for this one…
In the opening shot Shaun I believe is 6'3" Moo is a seriously big guy. It's not surprising that he can hit the ball so far.
Yes, we are both 6’1” but his frame has a bit more meat on it! 😝😝😝💪
I kicked a ball once in my life. He insulted my wife.She spit tobacco in his eye and kicked him with her combat boots .Speaking of balls tomorrow I will embark on my mission to purchase some golfballs. Two boxes should be fine for my upcoming golf trip. All manufacturers have the same claims. We have all heard these claims long ,soft and low spin blah, blah,blah. Should I just go to my local golf store plunk down the $80. and walk out with two boxes of prov1's ? Welp my question is why in the heck don't we have ball fitting programs. I'm sure there is a perfect ball for every swing speed out there. There are definitely differences in feel and performance. The problem is they want to market to the masses. The second issue is there is little money to be made. I wonder how they would react if I showed up with my golf clubs at the nearest golf store and asked to be fit for a box of golfballs. I would probably need to take my wife with me for intimidation purposes. All four hundred pounds of her all whiskeyed up. Great video !
Thank yinz
Monday Wisdom! I like to put a small mirror up to the screen to turn Savvy around right handed. It looks perfect then LOL!
What iron was Mu using? Because it carried 208!
7 iron
@@davidd1395 That is insane. Effortless 200+
@@jdheelfan yes, and it is a blade 7 iron, above 32 degrees loft!
@@golflessons Oh to be young and strong as a bull.
@@jdheelfan that is the one! Ferdinand the Bull!! 👍😝
Here is what I do Shawn. 1. Find my target. 2. slightly adjust my feet right or left of my target line and then swing along my foot angle keeping the club square to the target line. Is this incorrect? It works but it's not consistent. I guess that means it doesn't work! hahahahaha.
Kevin O'Rourke
😝😝That is old school “STATIC SET UP”
See “predict perfect contact and direction shawn clement” and “how to put the ball in the way of your swing shawn clement”
On premium the titles are “predict contact” and the “goldie locks series” and “fade fine tuning” and “draw fine tuning”
What is with using two left-handers? What are the odds?
I can hit draws well fades are a weakness I use a strong grip too and I’m a lefty too
See “how to match backswing to target shawn clement” to make sure your backswing matches the fade!
I have a strong grip too. So watching her with interest in fading.
i love Sav ! and like a lot Shawn and the other guy. hits 200 yds a 7 iron
wrote it before. you need to show excerses with a righthanded golfer. mirror a movement is really hard I spend a whole year switching from left end to right end position at football
But I always hit some shots in every video! Are you staying to the end??
Straight shots in soccer is pretty common. It might feel similar to a punch shot.
I can fade the ball with strong grip but not to the extent she does I’m about 20 yards behind
Savannah hits a drive 285 carry 312 total with 107 MPH swing speed???!?!? Holy crap. You are the Bryson Dechambeau of women's golf!
She is surprising the crap out of us!! I use this machine with 14 to 20 students a day and man, she can rip it now!!!
straight fade? :-)
Why do we, you need to fade/draw the golf ball, why not just try and hit it straight, no need to change grip, stance ect, get your neutral grip and let it rip, works with practice but hey just my opinion, good luck out there.
We answered this in the video big time; why did you not listen to the video before making this comment?
Owwww bit bitchy mate
I am also right handed but swing left handed like Savvy. What did she do to stengthen her
left hand and arm to hit with power. Thanks
She is on a terrific fitness program with her boyfriend Munashe (Mu for short) who is certified with TPI and more importantly with “GOLFITPRO” and Nick Randall who coaches Cameron Smith on the PGA tour. It is the best program we have seen out there bar none and Mu is now certified with Nick! Contact Mu at masawiisrael@gmail.com
When I'm striking it well I hit very straight. I struggle to demand draw or fade it just goes straight.
the content is great, but waaaayy too many ads man. It really just makes me want to move on to another video
Ok, great feedback there man, I appreciate that! But you are able to skip the adds though right?
@@golflessons some of them yes, but not all of them. I don't mind the odd add, I get that creators are trying to make $, but it felt like it was a noteable distraction from enjoying the video. 👍
are shawn & sav married? from this i receive an important principle of life - "be the student"
Thanks Tim! But she is my daughter! 😝😝
@@golflessons it all makes sense now!