crucial tips for every who do this: DONT USE THE SHIFT KEY, USE THE RIGHT MOUSE CLICK INSTEAD!! attack -> right mouse click -> spacebar ( always right mouse click first before using spacebar)
Great video! Tho i think the hardest part of optimizing Dragonstrike in battle is knowing when to land the dragonstrike, so it does the desired reaction.
That's why only Mono and Melt are encouraged, unless you have C2 Jean or C6 Amber. Mono for the obvious reason while Melt has a properly working setup and rotation, which practically works just as traditional Melt, albeit harder execution. As long as your Dragonstrike timing isn't off (Either staying mid air for too long or doing it too soon) you wouldn't have trouble finding the right timing. It all comes down to muscle memory.
It's the opposite for me. Finding the right time is easy, but pulling of the Dragonstrike is the tricky part. When I manage to pull 3 consecutive Dragonstrike, rest of the combo always do what I intended. Probably because I have used to playing Diluc Melt so I kinda know the Cryo & Hydro application I run Bennett, Diona, Rosaria for melt and Kokomi, Diona, XQ for Vape btw.
@@cavernman4739 im relatively new to your channel, so im not too sure if you ever make the guide for it. Personally i have harder time on Diona Rosaria than Diona Kazuha, tho to my knowledge its suppose to be easier xd I'm hoping to be able to see it 👍
I have been getting lots of comment on how to plunge with Xianyun/Cloud retainer recently, so I will shamelessly send them your way by sending them this video 😊
Noooo, i had given up on dragonstrike because it’s so hard, but since you posted a guide I’ll give it another go. Plus it’s so well explained! Next 500 views will be me replaying this guide 🥲 Thank you for all your videos, you are a treasure to diluc mains EDIT: I DID IT FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER!!!! AND I DID LIKE 10 OTHER TIMES AFTER THAT!!! I'm so happy, I never did it before and I tried WAY HARDER than I did now! I just didn't get it before. The "press shift a little before jump" tip and showing the actual N1 frame where I need to dash+jump made all the difference. Thank you so so much. I'll keep practicing now that I know it's possible for me :")
Last abyss was hard as hell but at the very least I got a lot better at dragonstriking. Like you said the best way to practice is to do it at chaotic areas 😊( TM and the four beast)
Maybe i can do better in PC once i get it. Dragonstike is so painful to do in mobile for me. I can do it fine on stationary targets like ruin guards. But when it comes to abyss, I can't do it reliably enough for it to be a DPS increase. Missing just 1 dragon strike is a massive DPS loss. Like you mentioned in previous video, I think you should add that you cant dragonstrike when you are inflicted with cryo in this guide. I didn't know about this before and tried practicing it in abyss 7-1 that gives additional movement speed buff, but there were also cryo hili shooters who'd inflict me with cryo. I had no clue on why i couldn't dragon strike there at all even though i did everything correctly, until I observed that the attacks were very slow for some reason. Only much later did I learn about this. Got my c6 Diluc today BTW!!!! YAAAAAY!!!
I have got diluc I love him so much this is the first time I see this combo it’s quite hard for me but I will try to be good in this combo also really really magnificent work dude with diluc I will train as much as I can to make this combo 🤙🤙🤙
Yes and No. You don't have to hold the Dash Button but you do need to Hold the jump button because you don't immediately gain Height for Plunge so it's necessary to hold the jump button. There's also the benefit to allow you to do High Plunge instead of Low Plunge the longer you hold the Jump button. In some cases, Enemies (Generally Tall Enemies or those float like Pyro Lectors, ASIMON, and those Black Swordmans) can slow down character from gaining height because they collide longer with your character, so Holding the Jump button would massively help in this scenario.
Hello, thank you for this guide. I have a question about Dragonstrike on different enemies. For some reason with outworld's ASIMON and outworld's Maguu Kenki is much harder to perform Dragonstrike than to do the same with Abyss Doggos at 12-1-1 while with Funguses at 10-1-1 is literally impossible to do that. Why there is such difference? Does enemy's size/height/floating state matters for Dragonstrike?
Hello! Only ASIMON is indeed "harder" to execute in OW as it afloat in the beginning, starting after it first use camouflage, it'll the same as in Abyss. Rest of the mentioned works just the same as in Abyss. Yes, enemies that afloat is harder to Dragonstrike as their Hitbox can "Block" Your character from gaining height. Refer to the "advanced Dragonstike" Section in which I mention a workaround for such enemies (including those with Janky hitbox like ASIMON, Aeonblight, TM) that is harder to execute normal Dragonstrike consistently.
Tho I think I've mastered it to 85-90%, its still nice seeing a guide like this. I recommend DS training on the Ruin Guards, its the best dummy for the skill imo. Next are the quirky enemies, the small enemies and the bosses. It feels great once you master and finish the abyss using the skill.
I have tried and test in every possible scenario, and I can guarantee that connection doesn't affect Dragonstrike at all. Though Device performance indirectly affect it through tighter Frame windows, it is still doable and Managable through memorization. There are case where people actually find Dragonstrike easier to do in lower FPS (30) in fact. Unlike Echoes that tied to the Game server (which is why low Ping matters, because having low / fluctuate ping means delayed DMG which tied to the server hence delayed effect of the artifact), Dragonstrike tied *directly* to the core gameplay in real time that has no bound to connection at all. If you aren't convinced, in many of my Dragonstrike runs, I occasionally face delay from high ping, sometimes accompanied with stutters. It's nor because I'm used to it, it's simply because connection and Ping doesn't affect Dragonstrike one bit (just Like Keqing twin blink worked)
@@kibathefang6022 You mean Cloud Retainer? I accidently saw the leak. I don't think she boost party's jump though. But I didn't see the video leak in full though.
Yes. Although try to not keep holding jump button for too long so your hand won't get used to it in case you wanted to try Melt Dragonstrike Since your Plunge timing is determined by how fast you execute Dragonstrike.
@@cavernman4739 so can I take it that by prolong holding the jump button can make me jump a bit longer? sorry it might sounds dumb but I just simply don't understand and want to know more.
@@naoyagami8329It's Fine! Yes, by prolong holding the Jump, it enables you to jump higher to certain extent. The height and how longer you can jump (from keep holding Jump button) is determined by how precise your Dragonstrike is. On side note, you can still prolong holding Jump, regardless of your Dragonstrike timing when facing enemies that can support footstooling (Slimes, Regisvine, Mitacurl, the back of ASIMON just to name a few)
I mean, you can still do it on Mobile but go for it. In some case, people that already used playing on Mobile actually find it easier to do it on Mobile too.
Yes, kinda. High and Consistent frame rate basically means easier Dragonstrike. Though haven't test above 60 FPS to confirm if 90 or 120 make any difference compared to 60.
Every character has the same difficulty in practice Except Eula (for Her fast NA speed) and non Claymore. It all depends which character (specifically which Attacks) you are more used to.
Such a great tips! I play on mobile so it kinda hits different and it was my resinless behaviour to train dragonstrike 😂. The only thing i struggle with is how to change the direction (the pro level lol 🫠).
@@cavernman4739 it's kinda easy if u r used to play on mobile tho. Well yeah that difficulty appears when i wanna maintain multiple dragonstrikes not just once, i mean my fingers lose the sense of directions and where to press 🤣 at the end i managed to memorize the technique lol .
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Diluc Melt Dragonstrike Guide:
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How do you do this on mobile? >:)
I mastered this on console some years ago, but it was quite the excruciating experience
hey cavernman just want you to know that you are my favorite diluc main
I'm very happy to hear that.
crucial tips for every who do this: DONT USE THE SHIFT KEY, USE THE RIGHT MOUSE CLICK INSTEAD!!
attack -> right mouse click -> spacebar ( always right mouse click first before using spacebar)
Great video!
Tho i think the hardest part of optimizing Dragonstrike in battle is knowing when to land the dragonstrike, so it does the desired reaction.
That's why only Mono and Melt are encouraged, unless you have C2 Jean or C6 Amber.
Mono for the obvious reason while Melt has a properly working setup and rotation, which practically works just as traditional Melt, albeit harder execution.
As long as your Dragonstrike timing isn't off (Either staying mid air for too long or doing it too soon) you wouldn't have trouble finding the right timing.
It all comes down to muscle memory.
It's the opposite for me.
Finding the right time is easy, but pulling of the Dragonstrike is the tricky part.
When I manage to pull 3 consecutive Dragonstrike, rest of the combo always do what I intended.
Probably because I have used to playing Diluc Melt so I kinda know the Cryo & Hydro application
I run Bennett, Diona, Rosaria for melt and Kokomi, Diona, XQ for Vape btw.
@@cavernman4739 im relatively new to your channel, so im not too sure if you ever make the guide for it.
Personally i have harder time on Diona Rosaria than Diona Kazuha, tho to my knowledge its suppose to be easier xd
I'm hoping to be able to see it 👍
@@Aven. You can check pinned comment.
I leave a link to my Melt Dragonstrike Guide.
i think the hardest part about optimizing diluc dragon strike is getting it to do half as much damage as any hu tao team
I have been getting lots of comment on how to plunge with Xianyun/Cloud retainer recently, so I will shamelessly send them your way by sending them this video 😊
broke diluc mains: i will practice dragon strike
woke diluc mains: i will build 4pc glad and use charge attack a1 passive
Chad Diluc Mains: *I will ignore Diluc vision and play Physical Diluc*
@@cavernman4739 reminds of how most people played way back in release, just stack triple attack on every character lol
Noooo, i had given up on dragonstrike because it’s so hard, but since you posted a guide I’ll give it another go. Plus it’s so well explained! Next 500 views will be me replaying this guide 🥲 Thank you for all your videos, you are a treasure to diluc mains
EDIT: I DID IT FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER!!!! AND I DID LIKE 10 OTHER TIMES AFTER THAT!!! I'm so happy, I never did it before and I tried WAY HARDER than I did now! I just didn't get it before. The "press shift a little before jump" tip and showing the actual N1 frame where I need to dash+jump made all the difference. Thank you so so much. I'll keep practicing now that I know it's possible for me :")
Last abyss was hard as hell but at the very least I got a lot better at dragonstriking. Like you said the best way to practice is to do it at chaotic areas 😊( TM and the four beast)
This is the best dragon strike guide ever!! It helped me a lot.
Maybe i can do better in PC once i get it. Dragonstike is so painful to do in mobile for me. I can do it fine on stationary targets like ruin guards. But when it comes to abyss, I can't do it reliably enough for it to be a DPS increase. Missing just 1 dragon strike is a massive DPS loss.
Like you mentioned in previous video, I think you should add that you cant dragonstrike when you are inflicted with cryo in this guide. I didn't know about this before and tried practicing it in abyss 7-1 that gives additional movement speed buff, but there were also cryo hili shooters who'd inflict me with cryo. I had no clue on why i couldn't dragon strike there at all even though i did everything correctly, until I observed that the attacks were very slow for some reason. Only much later did I learn about this.
Got my c6 Diluc today BTW!!!! YAAAAAY!!!
Still waiting claymore give us movement speed like lost prayer
I have got diluc I love him so much this is the first time I see this combo it’s quite hard for me but I will try to be good in this combo also really really magnificent work dude with diluc I will train as much as I can to make this combo 🤙🤙🤙
Thats what i have been waiting for 😁
Nice tips ❤
ive actually done this before in cecilia garden over a year ago, but i didnt know this was a thing/it had a name
Sheeshhh great video!!! i did 3x in a row after watching this vid lol
Glad if the video helped
Hmm, nice tips 🤗
Do you have to hold dash and jump like you do? Wouldn't pressing them just work? What's the benefit of holding them?
Yes and No.
You don't have to hold the Dash Button but you do need to Hold the jump button because you don't immediately gain Height for Plunge so it's necessary to hold the jump button.
There's also the benefit to allow you to do High Plunge instead of Low Plunge the longer you hold the Jump button.
In some cases, Enemies (Generally Tall Enemies or those float like Pyro Lectors, ASIMON, and those Black Swordmans) can slow down character from gaining height because they collide longer with your character, so Holding the Jump button would massively help in this scenario.
this is great
Nice
Hello, thank you for this guide. I have a question about Dragonstrike on different enemies. For some reason with outworld's ASIMON and outworld's Maguu Kenki is much harder to perform Dragonstrike than to do the same with Abyss Doggos at 12-1-1 while with Funguses at 10-1-1 is literally impossible to do that. Why there is such difference? Does enemy's size/height/floating state matters for Dragonstrike?
Hello!
Only ASIMON is indeed "harder" to execute in OW as it afloat in the beginning, starting after it first use camouflage, it'll the same as in Abyss.
Rest of the mentioned works just the same as in Abyss.
Yes, enemies that afloat is harder to Dragonstrike as their Hitbox can "Block" Your character from gaining height.
Refer to the "advanced Dragonstike" Section in which I mention a workaround for such enemies (including those with Janky hitbox like ASIMON, Aeonblight, TM) that is harder to execute normal Dragonstrike consistently.
@@cavernman4739 Thank you for reply. I will train hard to perform DS perfectly.
U got a sub
i can do ds randomly but its hard to hit the enemy with the plunging XD
Tho I think I've mastered it to 85-90%, its still nice seeing a guide like this.
I recommend DS training on the Ruin Guards, its the best dummy for the skill imo. Next are the quirky enemies, the small enemies and the bosses.
It feels great once you master and finish the abyss using the skill.
U the best
even with guide, it still never works here
but I guess it heavily depends on your pc performance, in a certain way like that stupid echoes set does
I have tried and test in every possible scenario, and I can guarantee that connection doesn't affect Dragonstrike at all.
Though Device performance indirectly affect it through tighter Frame windows, it is still doable and Managable through memorization.
There are case where people actually find Dragonstrike easier to do in lower FPS (30) in fact.
Unlike Echoes that tied to the Game server (which is why low Ping matters, because having low / fluctuate ping means delayed DMG which tied to the server hence delayed effect of the artifact), Dragonstrike tied *directly* to the core gameplay in real time that has no bound to connection at all.
If you aren't convinced, in many of my Dragonstrike runs, I occasionally face delay from high ping, sometimes accompanied with stutters. It's nor because I'm used to it, it's simply because connection and Ping doesn't affect Dragonstrike one bit (just Like Keqing twin blink worked)
I'll wait for Anemo character that can boost your jump. Using Xiao for now. xD
Understandable xD
The wait will be over soon.
@@kibathefang6022 You mean Cloud Retainer? I accidently saw the leak. I don't think she boost party's jump though. But I didn't see the video leak in full though.
Oh that comment is before the cloud retainer release , how cute
Can you use dragonstrike without speed buff? Share your tip if u can do it bro
Yeah it possible but really difficult😊
Can you do it on mobile?
so do I have to hold down the dash and jump button until I execute the plunge atk?
Yes.
Although try to not keep holding jump button for too long so your hand won't get used to it in case you wanted to try Melt Dragonstrike
Since your Plunge timing is determined by how fast you execute Dragonstrike.
@@cavernman4739 so can I take it that by prolong holding the jump button can make me jump a bit longer?
sorry it might sounds dumb but I just simply don't understand and want to know more.
@@naoyagami8329It's Fine!
Yes, by prolong holding the Jump, it enables you to jump higher to certain extent.
The height and how longer you can jump (from keep holding Jump button) is determined by how precise your Dragonstrike is.
On side note, you can still prolong holding Jump, regardless of your Dragonstrike timing when facing enemies that can support footstooling (Slimes, Regisvine, Mitacurl, the back of ASIMON just to name a few)
im not far in the video so dont asnwer if it is but can u do it in ittos burst?
Yes, you can.
I might buy a pc just to try this
I mean, you can still do it on Mobile but go for it.
In some case, people that already used playing on Mobile actually find it easier to do it on Mobile too.
@@cavernman4739 well they are right ….. if my fingers weren’t bigger than my phone !!
Dose frame rate affect dragonstrikes ?
Yes, kinda.
High and Consistent frame rate basically means easier Dragonstrike.
Though haven't test above 60 FPS to confirm if 90 or 120 make any difference compared to 60.
Question is it easier with Diluc than using Beidou
Every character has the same difficulty in practice Except Eula (for Her fast NA speed) and non Claymore.
It all depends which character (specifically which Attacks) you are more used to.
I don't have diluc but I want to practice the combo but I'm struggling to get it corrected. Beidou herself is tough. I can't time it correctly
Actually can I use right click then space jump and attack?
@@cavernman4739oh lol thats why its so hard for me to do it with eula, its not impossible but it needs very perfect timing
Such a great tips!
I play on mobile so it kinda hits different and it was my resinless behaviour to train dragonstrike 😂.
The only thing i struggle with is how to change the direction (the pro level lol 🫠).
I can see it being harder to do it on Mobile since you have to press at least 3 button simultaneously.
@@cavernman4739 it's kinda easy if u r used to play on mobile tho.
Well yeah that difficulty appears when i wanna maintain multiple dragonstrikes not just once, i mean my fingers lose the sense of directions and where to press 🤣 at the end i managed to memorize the technique lol .
In pro level which button you use first. I don't see any movememt button
Can you do it on mobile?
Yes.
You can do it in other platforms too.
@@cavernman4739 can you make a guide for it plss I'm struggling to do it