NO OVEN? NO PROBLEM POWDERCOATING!
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- Опубликовано: 23 дек 2017
- NO OVEN? NO PROBLEM POWDERCOATING!
This video has been the most popular video on my channel and I have to thank you all for being interested in my take on doing powder coating with limited tools.
I don't have an oven for this video and use a propane radiant heater to get the wheel to 400F so that the powder is cured. I'll revisit this later with a custom sized oven at some point.
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Thanks for sharing your idea of using radiant heaters ,it's a big help.
thanks for taking the time to share your technique. Great video.
So nice idea!Keep it up!!Technology is so dynamic!!!
This is the most liked video on your channel because of your DOG GOOD HELPER :-)
THANKS. That was very helpful. I wonder why I hadn't thought of that.
Super cool nice work it looks really good
nice job and good thinking with the heat source but hey don't forget you owe sparky a powder coated food dish lol and a few tosses of the ball I kept laughing as he was trying to get your attention the whole time and watching lol great video!
looks great. i like the heater idea
Yeah, I'm doing this - thanks!
Cool improv. I powder coated my Jeep bumper by stacking two drums and putting two oven elements inside. I did the rims by building a cinderblock oven and a oven element on the sand poured in the center.
When you need to get it done, but don’t have time to wait!
Great video!
Thats an amazing idea.thanks for sharing
Lol..your shepherd is wanting to play with you while you work. Nice video, thanks for the info
You've got to be kidding me Great video thanks
Great technique. I never thought of using a propane heater to cure powder coat.
Now that is a thumbs up sir!
capeman10 Thanks! I’ll be revisiting this video later since so many people have disliked the video because of the audio.
Thats excellent
Pretty damn smart dude.
Awesome idea. Saw a few vids with an electric oven and now have an idea for a larger oven with the LPG Gas heater.
Wild Side Customs just don’t have the tank inside the oven
That be def awsome man
0:37 my German shepherd does the same thing it brings a ball drops it like that and waits but if you try to grab it she runs away with it
Dude that’s pretty cool man!!! Keep them videos coming!! How long did you expose the wheel to heat as you rotated it? Just when it looked glossy enough basically. I noticed that you could basically see the heating element reflecting and then you rotated. About right?
blueswasted6768 Yes, I let it sit long enough in one spot to let it flow out and then sit for a minute or two. The steel is really thick so I knew that it would retain most of the heat for the post-flow cure time.
about 10-15 min, the video was sped up considerably(2000%).
Hey show your boy a bit more. I have 2 German shepherds myself and my girl Roxy loves playing ball fetch too. Cute dog. And good video.
Will do, there's been a few comments about the dog. I didn't think there would be that much interest in the pup otherwise I would've given him a little more time in front of the camera.
Grab an older electric oven. I wired one up outside my shop under the stairs and i built an extension box so i can open the door and have heat. I'm going to start grabbing electric heating elements to make a larger oven out of an old small walk in freezer. Big enough to do motorcycle frame easily.
just ditch the insulation, replace it all with mineral wool good to go. i build mine out of upright serving carts. the things that hold like 12 baking trays. i just trim em out with sheet metal and mineral wool. pick the carts up from the prison auction for like 15 bucks a pop.
@@DieselRamcharger thanks for the idea. Have a friend that just built a forge using the wool so I'm gonna pillage his leftovers. Lol
i was too cheap to use sheet metal so my last one i built with Hardie Panel {not backer board} this stuff is cement/fiberglass 1/4" thick 4x8 sheets exterior paneling for houses. Still used mineral wool batts for the insulation. I do a lot of dirt bike frames and stuff like that. the oven stays cool to the touch on the outside.
You can also build a brick box pizza oven style too and make it as big as you want using electric heating elements from an oven
Hey super informative video. I'm going to try a metal entry door from my house. Do you think that too much area to heat with the LP heater?
824rmrock Thanks! That shouldn’t be an issue at all. I’m actually going to do another video for powder coating when I do the shipping container.
Nice how you. Buy. the heating part on the gas tank . or name
Good tip or hack.
You think it could of work with the torch too? Been thinkin about it for a while
9:09 What's the name of the track you used here?
I'm gonna try out using that radiator heater while also using a heat gun as well.
Thanks for the tip! 👌
I thought about the heat gun also but I think it would blow off the powder. How about using a map or propane torch to heat it up 1st then powder coating hot, then putting the propane heater on it?
Cool man. I’m just learning about powder coating. I thought you had to heat the part first and then apply the powder when it’s cool to the touch. Did your method last? Thanks
Leo C You don’t always have to preheat the workpiece. If your workpiece can still conduct electricity then you don’t have to. If you are working with multiple coats of powder, or a workpiece that is not conductive then you will have to hot-flock, which is what you just described. As far as durability, I will address that when I break that wheel apart next time.
I've wondered if just blow torching the rim before and putting the can in really hot near boiling water will help fuse the paint better to the metal.
NoSunBeach If you’re going to use a torch make sure to get the metal good and hot first because it will leave moisture on the metal. It theory it could be trapped below the powder if it melts before the metal gets hot enough for it to bond.
I thought you were going to add coals and light them in the barrel to get the wheel to temperature, would not have taken too long. The outside with the propane is brilliant. Work the coals and the propane and you will have a cure to last.
Good vid man keep it up! I actually like the music what were the songs played?
Let me tell you something Mister, You are the Man! I never thought of that, a propane heater. Like a fool I would have over spent on a lamp. All I want to do is my bike. Does it leave any seem lines between the powder and new run out after the finish?
capeman10 If you’re trying to do multiple coats on metal you’ll most likely have to hot flock it. Basically just keep the frame hot and spray it with the next layer. I’ve done that with other parts that I haven’t videoed.
capeman10 If all you are doing is a bike frame, the metal should heat up quicker than this wheel did. You can also try using a good heat gun.
Love It! I've never considered using anything like this!
Gotta think "outside the box" sometimes
What kind of medium were u using that u void have your gand that close? I need to do the inside of a t roof for my Camaro as I need to replace that roof section, s (the s3ction is off the car) so this gives me what I needed to know to get the inside sections coated:) you can also use high temp tape for this so you can mask it off and not worry about the heat!
Vicki k Gibson 80grit aluminum oxide I think
@@OffGridOverLander wow fast reply! I have another q. How long did u put the heater on each section? Normal temp is around 400 f for cure. That takes about 30 min, I am told, so how long do you put the heater on the rim? Of course thinner metal will get hotter much faster. Might be hard to regulate, but not impossible, just watch it very close?
Vicki k Gibson with as thick as my rim was I just watched it and rotated it about an inch at a time when I saw that it had melted, between the metal retaining the heat and slow rotation I figured I hit the 10-15 min needed for my powder.
Pretty clever solution. Do you think it will hold up as well as a truly baked finish?
Not sure, we will see over time, but honestly this was the inside of the wheel so I wasn't at all worried if it wasn't as durable as a traditionally cured finish.
Good luck with it. I hope it works. I’ve got several items I intend to try this on Please do a future update.
So now that it’s been a year how did it hold up? This is awesome. I’m about to build a giant oven, but if this works, I might just do it instead and save some money.
At 0:43 your dog XD
Powder coating isn't just to melt the color on it and that's it, that won't be hardened and last in scratches.... might as well just painted them for same scratch resistance.... you need to heat them for much more time and much higher temperature or it's really just barely melted powder paint.
Bad ass
You think it's possible to powder coat a car panel or maybe even do the wheels while they're on the car
Sorry for the late reply, I wouldn’t do them while they are on the vehicle, mainly for risk of fire. Too many different materials on vehicles with different melting points, even if a part doesn’t burn it could still be destroyed by high heat.
I like your video, but can you repost it without the music? I'd rather be able to hear what you had to say. Especially since I'm likely going to go this route.
Dood. What kinda Prius those goin on? Just playin.
I wish it had the fuel economy of a Prius lol
can you powdercoat steel bumper that way
sammy ruiz I don’t see any reason why not
that worked good you just moved it when it melted to shiny black by eye
Do need to wait a little while after it goes glossy to make sure that it cures. The video was sped up considerably since curing took about 2 hrs.
Great idea using a small bottle heater. Fast and cheaper than a large brick oven type.
How did you keep the powder from blowing off?
ConDragon10 It wasn’t too windy that day and it generally takes compressed air to blow the powder off. Have to remember that it is static charged with electricity so it wants to stay on the part.
It wasn't that windy that day, but it takes more than a gentle breeze to get it to blow off. If you're using the static charge type of application it'll take compressed air to usually dislodge it from the part being coated. If you're hot flocking it then you'll have to work with the breeze if you have any to get the powder on the part. Hot flocking is usually reserved for parts that already have a coat or two of powder already on them, or parts that aren't electrically conductive.
Ok thanks 1000x
I thought you had to use electric heat, can we use a gas stove also or just the propane heater?
No do not put anything in a gas stove it can't breathe and the paint is combustible
Good I deals..
Whet the you bouth that heater
Bought the heater through Amazon, I'll be sure to add a link next time I do a powder coating video. But unless you plan on doing small areas make sure you get the one with two heads. I might even keep an eye out for a larger one or make one next time.
Please make another video. No music and more detail! Pls!
Never use open flame for powder coating!
hello unfortunately this proses will not stand the test of time at all.... the bake time for gloss black is around 20 mins at 170 degrees, the timer starts when the part reaches 170. all you are doing there is making the powder gloss over, it will not bond to the surface and will have no durability , this will flake off or crack in a very short period of time. but I would love to be proven wrong :) I suppose your doing the inside of the wheel to get a good clean surface to mount the tyre,? I think if you used it for the wheel face stone chips and weather would take that off within weeks.......just an after thought what temp does the wheel get to roughly?
l8on6661 that is what I was thinking. It isn't cured but if it works for the application I guess its good.
Ye that's right if it works for the application and you have had no issues .......then it's a good work around for not having an oven just be mindful about durability when using the same process in different applications:)
To be honest, I think this could be used to do it correctly, just set it up so that the heater in heating the wheel from the inside, that way the actual wheel is heating up, not just the powder, and then just let it sit in each area for the necessary time, 10 minutes per section or whatever the powder requires
Ye that's a good point pal I think that would work..... enen get a couple of heater heads in there so the part gets to temp quicker and evenly :)
Total cure time was about 15 min at each point before I turned the wheel. Total cure time took about 2 hrs so the video was sped up considerably. I won't be using gloss on the outside of the wheel so I'm not sure how it will look when it finally gets to temp, we'll just have to see when I get there.
want to know why this has 52 dislikes ???/