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- Jonny Benjamin, who has schizoaffective disorder, a combination of schizophrenia and depression, investigates why many young people with mental illness are failing to get the right treatment from the NHS.
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Mental illness is pure agony😢
I’ve been on both sides of this.
I was a carer for someone with BPD and had the 24 hour waits in A&E when they were in crisis. I’ve also worked as a trainee psychologist in the NHS and it’s awful. You are underpaid, overworked, have no support or real training and the water kept rising. The other staff are burned out and snappy, making
for a hostile environment. Me and many of the other trainees left, as we were all struggling with our own mental health and were basically told to suck it up.
Left that job 7 years ago and I’ve never looked back. Mental health staff and patients have been failed but my sympathy is with the patients more than anything. They need help and are vulnerable and are put into a system which has already ground to a halt.
This comment isn’t about the MH services, but my Mum waited over 4 hours for an ambulance. The paramedics wouldn’t help her and my brother had to put her on the gurney. If she could have got to the hospital a lot sooner, she could have been saved. She was bleeding internally and lost consciousness and died a few hours after arriving at the hospital. I’m not even going to go into my opinions on the doctor that was supposed to “help” her.
I’m so sorry, that’s awful. I am sorry for your loss, - it’s hard enough losing your mum anyway, but those circumstances must make your pain all the worse.
I don't live in England but I would like to say that I'm sorry you had to go through this.
I'm actually Australian & our Medicare system was based on your NHS.
It definitely has its failings.
Even though I am a disabled pensioner so qualify for completely free healthcare I still literally go without food sometimes to pay for private health insurance.
The government system is great here if you have obvious life threatening injuries etc but when it comes to things that aren't so urgent the waiting time is absurd.
We pay for it here in the states and have the same issues. Lack of caring, lack of support, not being taken seriously, not enough facilities or health specialists to treat us and so on. Whether it’s free or you have to pay, we’re in the same boat. And it’s disgraceful how the medical system sux the world over.
This maybe a old documentary I think it's 10 years old but today things have gotten harder with mental health services
I think the Mind your Mate program is wonderful. So good people are teaching these kids
You can't see a GP anymore, it is embarrassing and distressing having to explain PTSD to the Dr's receptionist. The receptionist doesn't know and explaining anything is hard work.
I’m extremely lucky . I can get a telephone appointment or face to face appointment with my gp any time I get in contact with them
@@MiaSummer-cm6cy•Yes but they shoved it all back to my GP ?From Enhanced Care and at least ?7 X sections 2 for a year ?This is a long time back since 2016 I realised DIY or DIE ..I have thank goodness a Great GP that’s worked in mental health gets Anxiety but means issues over ,Meds are down to him I have Epilepsy same with that given my ex GP had no pharmacist I had a toxic reaction to an over Prescribed Anti Psychotic and have a brain injury now ..I feel like I been black listed other than my GP no more enhanced care ?All these section papers ?Enough to paper a wall ?I did not request childhood trauma or mental illness unfortunately we all just statistics to the Government the Elderly/Sick /Poor quick way to cut lists -Wipe em off the list .
I suffer from depression. I wanted to move back to the UK but the health system is much better here in Germany. That's the only reason for me to stay here. I miss tge UK soooo much!
I feel so sorry for the lady with the son she tried her best to raise him RIP Christopher
The US doesn't fair much better. I'm a mental health consumer (someone with a confirmed disorder, in my case, major depressive disorder) and I live with my husband, who's schizoaffective and has epilepsy. While we live independantly, we rely on case managers to aide us in other things like transportation and such. Yet the quality of care we recieve here in Alabama just sucks as it's the bare minimum. We have very little hospital aide if we need it and when they hear "mental health patient" they immediately assume that's the reason we're in the ER and not some physical problem! They haven't really trained us for life in the real world and want us to stay in places that feel more prison like than a regular apartment complex. And God help those who aren't stable...they're either in prisons, homeless, or barely making it.
Hearing United States to the mental health system is so bad it's so hard to getting help for
Haven't yet watched the documentary - but for those in the comments saying "be glad it's free", I'm sure you would rather be alive and broke than dead. Just wait until you get cancer. NHS care is absolutely awful. My 2 year old niece has brain cancer and we have to call up to see if there's a free bed for her to have chemotherapy that day - if so, they go in, if not, they have no treatment that day. Having spoken to cancer patients in the US, although treatment is expensive, it's of much higher quality - there's a reason brits fundraise and pay thousands to get treated in America.
Wow that is awful, make sure you complain to your MP, the hospital board, get the media involved as well sometimes public shaming of the hospital means when treatment is due she will get a bee
@@Scouser89Liverpool22 It's Southampton General hospital. And it's just normal, lucky dip cancer treatment. People in our country are just brainwashed into supporting universal healthcare as part of our "British" identity. Us Brits would rather watch our children die than sign up to US-healthcare system that has much better outcomes for cancer survival.
Thank the Tories for how bad it’s gotten
It’s not even ‘free’. It’s funded by the public through taxation and the NHS decides what to do with our money and we have no say in the matter.
Nope. I JUST got denied for an infusion because my insurance dropped my infusion center here in America. Only one infusion center in the city takes my insurance. I went to the hospital, who denied it because they’re only for emergencies. I am now filing my second appeal, the first was denied. It absolutely happens here too.
It's scandalous that such suffering is caused by sheer neglect. Our system is fifty years out of date.
NHS should stop being a political football. It should have a minimum 25 year plan and political parties needs to stop and think long term. Not just 4 years in office. Enough.
My sons father has the same disease and it’s been so devastating to our family. I tried so hard to help him but I couldn’t and he never got help, he lives with his parents now and spends most of his time by himself it’s heartbreaking and I just wish there was help but there is nothing. Also, there is no help for family members on how to deal with it either..it’s so sad and such a waste of a talented loving person….
Mental health issues need addressing immediately in this country ASAP!
Mental health issues won't be addressed until psychiatrist stop using drugs as Band-Aids instead of looking for the root causes for these mental health issues.
The colonised countries are much the same as we fall under the U.K's guidance of laws and regulations.
Big changes need to be made.
I agree. If your arm is broken then it does need attention before the injury gets worse .....but if your brain is temporarily broken anything can ...and soemtimes does happen
In most of the world
Last year for two months I was in a mental health recovery unit, it was hard but I stayed the full two months
It's really really sad to think that it's been a decade since this documentary was made, and that if anything, mental health services are even worse than they were back then. Nothing has changed, there still isn't enough funding, people still aren't being assessed after self harming, and suicide rates are at an all time high. It's so sad that the country is in such a state.
I’m so shocked how the NHS fails these young people. In the US they would just be discharged from the ER when in crisis. I hope things do change and they receive better support.
having worked in MH and needing its services here in the states, I can empathize with you, as it's really no better here in the US.
You're wrong, it's much easier to get treatment here in the U.S. especially since hospitals here have to honor their mission statement that states they will treat each patient to the best of their ability regardless if they can pay. You will end up with a bill if your insurance doesn't cover certain treatment but you will get treated.
@@shemeciahaskell322 quality of treatment, bed availability and cost are still issues. Your mileage may have been different and thats good. But Ive seen people turned away, turned people away myself as part of my job, and watched when insurance kicks people out too. The US' problem is that for profit comes first and always will. Again though, if youre experience is different I am glad
@@shemeciahaskell322
And then what, every patient magically has the money to pay these disgustingly inflated bills?
Some people would rather choose a quick death than lifelong bankruptcy-fueled poverty
Better than the USA. I had to pay $8,000 before I hit my deductible with my last plan. Until then, nothing was covered at all. So people would go to the emergency room, where they don’t treat chronic conditions - just emergencies - and ultimately file for bankruptcy due to medical debt
UK wants to copy USA and create Pay-to-win healthcare too
Both countries dare to call themselves 1st world countries, but basic right like healthcare is denied.
It's not like we can't afford those things, we have billions for wars to spend on vs like some actual 3rd World country like Congo. It's just pure greed.
It's disastrous in my country as well.. Me and so many other people suffer on a daily basis.. I'm starting to physically feel the mental distress in my body now...
I have the hattrick depression, border line personality disorder, and really bad anxiety
I mean just to comment on the title of this video. I've had neck issues for 4 years. All I've ever gotten was the run around from doctors. I can't even work a full time job because of the severity of them but was recently told by a doctor my injury isn't severe enough and I'm not a candidate for surgery. I'd say I've been failed by the medical system.
Please look up a well-rated “Gonstead chiropractor” in your area, there’s plenty of RUclips footage detailing their beneficial treatments for all sorts of skeletal conditions
Good luck
There is a lack of understanding by some in the medical profession about mental health
Unfortunately attitude towards mental health issues is slow to change, especially in Western culture. Conservative government cut service and finding and mental health treatment/seevices are the lowest on the totem pole and are cut first.
The US is worse no better... If things were we wouldn't have mass shootings, homelessness, and high drug use. Insurance companies don't always cover mental health treatment. If they do, they limit what they will cover and how much. Its so bad that therapist and psychiatrists refuse to take insurance. Honestly, the BEST doctors are 100% out of pocket and its sad.
Edited: i speak from personal experience. Im fortunate my parents understand about therapy and have helped me over the years pay. I have a decent paying job, yet no money because it goes to pay for the support i need... I'm only able to hold a job, live on my own, and function because i hav3 amazing treaters. I feelt guilty and sad that i have this privilege. I hope it changes in my lifetime.
I'm a New Yorker & this is why I roll my eyes when people fantasize about free health care. At least here in the US, you have access to all types of care- unlimited options & availability. The only downside is that you might have to pay out-of-pocket if your insurance doesn't cover it.
I would rather pay for what I need because when there is an emergency, I don't want to be put on a waiting list or have to travel far for care. When you are desperate & in distress, you don't care about the price. Also, we pay our physicians/health care workers well. You can't expect the best care from a doctor or nurse who is overworked & underpaid.
I have friends & family in the UK and in Canada that had to come here to the US for certain medical procedures. I have cousins in England that moved here when they realized what a nurse's salary was. My cousin said she 'felt used' knowing she was working her butt off for half of what my cousin here in NY makes. My aunt in Canada worked as a psychiatrist for years and made an okay living. She ended up moving here, opened her private practice & flourished. Hearing tales of people having to wait months to see even a primary care physician because they're 'not accepting new patients'. Suffering for months &!having to wait for a life-saving surgery. That sounds horrible.
The US healthcare system isn't perfect but at least we always have available options. You can't worry about money when your life is on the line. ❤
Thank you, most sensible comment I have heard in a long time.
Well you can worry about money if you haven’t got any.
@@diane5522 at least American hospitals will treat you and bill you later.
Youngsters growing up realiaing that they are in fact not that special and that nobody really cares either... And yeah, just wait until you get to adult mental health services. Theyre great at acting when there is a major mental health event going on like a psychotic episode but if youre asking for support because youre feeling depressed, theyre maybe going to prescribe you an antidepressant at the most. Truth is that mental health services dont get anything but a tiny fraction of the funding that physical health services get...
Thankyou so much for sharing your story and helping others to speak up also. I am afraid the health systems are not qualified very well. Better training better expertise the ability to learn better techniques which go to the soul and spirit of a person are the way to really help people. Health systems are set up to help the provider, just to get a job done,not the person. Please continue to learn how to help yourself when you can, find your tribe.
What amazing young people.
I worked with yp in housing and homelessness services and for a short while in mental health for the nhs .
I only managed a year with the nhs, I couldnt honestly say that what I did vis a vis my job description did any good at all , mostly I felt stuff done under my own initiative ( often thwarted) and my personal interactions with service users might have been of some help but that was too depressing a situation for me to endure.
I worked with some good people ,some hopeless, but lack of funding and lack of imagination and an overeliance on meds made things so dull .....and young people arent dull , dont want to be dulled.
Containment is what I saw , in the community and on the ward.
Dont make a fuss , calm down ...
....i would be screaming fit to get sectioned in their shoes
For all those saying, "at least the healthcare is free", have you ever heard of the saying "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR". Ponder that.
And since I can’t afford to pay $30k out of pocket…because my insurance denied coverage…. Guess I’m in the same boat in America
@@strnglhld Indeed.
NHS isn't "free". It is the result of higher taxes. I am amazed people don't realize this.
I think many western counyries need to stop wasti g tax payers money on illegal immigrants and other countries.We in.Australia have a homeless problem at the moment because of lack of affordable housing
The system has ground to a halt here in America as well 😢.
I worked in the system when it was good and really helping people. Now I have a son who is in desperate need of it, and there is nothing. He is at the point of wanting to kill himself, and I don't know where he is most of the time because he is living on the streets.
That's when he is not in jail when I can finally breathe, knowing that he has a roof over his head and food in his mouth. He has turned to street drugs to self medicate.
It's truly just heartbreaking 💔.
A well made doco👏🤘
You are mostly on your own. Try to get the help you can and the missing help you have to compensate yourself. It's kinda like darwinian evolution. You either adapt or you die.
Yes, my son died, he went three times for help,
@ladylaois8184 •I came close the ex GP overdosed me on Halliperidol (As I was projectile Vomiting everywhere ?He had told me anxiety?)So then a blood test I just got taken off it was dreadful-13 Visits Later ..He told me to go away I tried phone the Crisis team ?Nothing?I had such a serious accident I broke nearly every bone in my body -Then he did the same (Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome)He had no pharmacist so a Typo nearly killed me a year later I was in a coma and brain was frying I have no recall thank goodness of this part but I think it in a bad way as my Dad said left enough fighting spirit killed off some negative and some positive brain cells
I'm a nurse
I've battled my employer for years
We are not your enemy, but we are faced with our employer telling us to shut up, protect the service, and we are threatened with being not only sacked, but they will report us to the nmc if we argue with them.
I'm commenting here as I have given up
I'll give the meds, I'll follow the policy
But ask me to care?
No
Because I'm sick of caring and then being told I worded it wrong.
33:47 can anyone name this song and artist?
UK is much better than the US. We the NHS in Australia and they have been a great help to my son.He has a driver and carers as he cannot look after himself.he has the same mental illness .However you will find that in most countries the mental health system is broken
most people with mh conditions are actually autistic but don’t know they are. the nhs is dreadful when it comes to neurodivergency.
It’s better have no help then have help like this!!as it’s waste of our tax money!! We already pay the biggest % from our wages, and for something we can’t get or receive!?! Give me that money and I will go private or abroad
And ptsd
When i used to live in Bournemouth, people told me how proud they are about the NHS and its free. Meanwhile they mocked me for our German healthcare system because people and their employer share the share the costs. NHS isn't for free, i had to pay 20£ before i even got an appointment at the dentist and the list goes on. I have a defect which causes my breasts to keep on growing and growing. I just had my breast reduction surgery and only had to pay 40€, 10€ for every day in the hospital. I know people in the UK who need fundraising for surgeries that are important for their life, its so sad! Im so grateful for the German system and thats actually one of the reasons i cant leave, I have chronic diseases
By the way there are literally tens of thousands of men who sail across the channel every year and get put up in hotels with paid security and given an allowance.
This costs British tax payers millions of pounds. However this money was non-existent before these men started coming apparently. The reason they are more important is because the British government wants to give them citizenship and make them part of the workforce. So if ordinary people want help for a family member who is homeless, disabled or seriously ill then you will have to literally threaten to shut down the country economically because they already have the next crop of people here to replace you. And when that crop get old or ill they will bring in the next crop. This is how the West operates now.
So true
glad i grew up in the 60s, we didnt have all these mental illnesses, true fact
I'm sorry but I must disagree. Mental health issues are not new. People always had anxiety, depression, addiction, etc the difference is today we talk about. We're honest and it's socially acceptable to ask for help. Also survival today is harder and we're breaking. We work more, we have debt and transgenerational trauma of living with family who have undiagnosed and untreated mental health issues.
Actually you did have them There used to be mental hospitals where mentally ill were kept. So you didn’t see them out on the streets. Then the Federal govt closed the state t-run mental hospitals. And now they are homeless and in plain sight.
Excuse I was born 1962 had depression and anxiety since I have been 10
Mental illness is a disease
Like any other.😂
You need to do a documentary on war vets mate. Your lucky trust me.....
Huh? Who's Lucky? This isn't a contest
So many people are only here for there kids. -- me being one. Them. I had good and bad experience.
WE ALL NEED THE LORD GOD JESUS
Stop throwing the religious card at ppl. Believing Jesus will not cure illness.
If Jesus helped, all these people wouldn't be unwell in the first place. Your comment is ridiculous and trivialises suffering.
keep it in church , will you?
Even with Jesus, if the care isn’t there, the care isn’t there. Having Jesus doesn’t mean an automatic cure to chemical imbalance in the brain.
If you want to believe in Jesus, that is up to you. You do you. But Jesus will not save the NHS or cure medical problems, such as severe mental illness or physical health issues. I'm not against religious ppl believing in their faith but I think it is very dangerous to tell a severally ill person to believe in God or Jesus in order to save them.
Australia
what good is free healthcare if they don’t do anything for you? they are missing the “care” part. i know no one likes to work for free but it might help a tiny bit if mental health workers donate a little time for urgent needs like those at the end of their willingness to live. i know it won’t solve everything but it can’t hurt. i know vets donate care for stray animals; why can’t we help ’stray’ people? i’m in the states but still …
It's not free...
I have a feeling the mental health workers would like more staff too. They're aware the patient liad is more than can be treated. Blame the private businesses and equity firms that are buying our health care facilities. Profit is their motive.
it's free for unemployed people thu@@eeeb2140
Dont forget to clap. Every thursday
I feel proud of india 🇮🇳. At least we can have free treatment here. The govt is good.
This is difficult to watch with the way they zoom right into his face. I don't want his face right in front of me.
I have a mental illness and in Canada I'm being failed for help. I'm so frustrated but I know I have to take my health in my own hands too. I have to push myself to choose healthy options that will affect me positively. I've changed my eating habits, I find a regular coke makes me sick. I take my meds on time everyday. It's called being structured.
Works for anxiety, not psychotic disorders
Being structured only works if you have a mild mental illness. It doesn't help suicidality and it does not help schizophrenia or other psychotic issues.
Wish more people felt this way. Good physical and mental health takes effort and work. Granted those with very serious mental health problems need more assistance, but too many people want the magic pill instead of taking charge and responsibility for their well being.
Maybe give up the coke all together. Also diet Coke is worse because it contains artificial sweetener which doesn't make you feel full like sugar does so people end up drinking more. Drink more water and exercise more; when you feel good about yourself it really improves your overall outlook on life and your mood.
Not honest sob that what the nhs is it’s a damm shame
I can see this video has been made by people with a conservative agenda at least in the UK every citizen is actually ENTITLED to health care unlike in US where millions go without the republicans still have a life long dream of ending Medicare And Medicaid which are public programs that have worked remarkably well for yrs the depth of their contempt for poor americans whether they work or not has always astonished me⚛😀
Lol, criticizing a broken system isn't a "conservative agenda ". Go touch grass ya fruit loop.
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If 'FREE' isn't working for y'all - purchase private insurance! I y'all can't afford private insurance, take what you can get for 'FREE'.
You're right, we all expect FREE treatment (although it's not free as paid for through National Insurance and taxes, free if you choose not to work and rely on benefits) but more people are looking at insurance plans. For some that's not an affordable option when they're already paying for health care through NI and tax. And NI is much more expensive than a private plan. So although you do have a point, healthcare here in the UK is not as straightforward as you think and it's certainly not free
@@eeeb2140 Employers should be offering those things if that's the reality we need to deal with.
But often you get low wages and no healthcare benefits.
Then private care is not even that sustainable.
If governments wants to disable NHS, they should force employers to provide private insurance and care as part of package like USA does. Then give back taxes from NI.
But then that creates another problem for disabled and unemployed people - maybe gov can put it as part of UC package.
The nhs is not free it is paid for by tax payer it is the uk government that squander money and has chosen to cut overall nhs budgets. They have blood on their hands but lets face it politicians have private medical care so why should they worry ! I have a friend who hasn't had any support from mental health services and looked into getting private treatment through the priory but at 3 thousand pounds a week is not an option. A great documentary. There should be more exposure on what is really happening.
The NHS isn't free, we all pay for it through tax.
Blah blah blah cry me a river lol
It really isn’t any better in the states. Idk how many times I’ve be admitted to the hospital because of my mental health issues, but Trey don’t help you, they don’t truly listen to you, and if you’re feeling any emotion too much they just over medicate you so they don’t have to deal with you. The stay is usually just 2week, because they just want their 2 weeks worth of insurance money, then you’re sent home, not feeling any better. Most times I’ve felt worse after I’d been in the hospital than I felt before I went in. It literally is maddening and crushing. They still treat you like you’re such a bother and that you’re feeling the way you are just for attention. It really hurts when you go to mental health professionals and they don’t listen to YOU, they just assume because they’re the experts. 😒😔😔 now it’s gotten to the point where I stopped telling them anything because they just end up making you feel like more of the worthless, waste of time loser than you already feel like. 😔 no one really cares or bothers to make the time or effort to want to listen. Idk it’s whatever 🫤
People need to help themselves 2 it can't all be done 4 u unfortunately