I know you arent happy with the project or the complexity of the system but it makes sense the way you did it and it is providing excellent content. I have done plenty of fishing (not the fun kind) and i knew that wire pull was going to be a awful task. Thanks, and keep up the good work.
Thanks. I had so many requests to do this I don't think people think about the work that goes on in the background that Hass to happen for it to work. it's not as simple as just programming some modules lol
To be honest, I love the systems you installed. You did an excellent job. I agree that you found the perfect balance by programming the systems to trigger a supervisory instead of a full alarm. Another project well done. Looking forward to the next one.
Nic I just want to say all your videos are awesome! I really enjoy all I've learned from you. You should be very proud of yourself for all that you do and how smart you are.
I’m certainly glad that the college I went to between 2016 and 2018 had the fire alarms set up properly with the interconnections (I’m still not sure why the 5+ systems were interconnected, as from what I saw, the other panels would only beep and display “FIRE” and “Fire Link Active” (these were lights on the panel that lit up with the actual words, and yes, the panel was just inside the entrance in each building, I don’t remember what was displayed on the screen on the panel when one of the other panels went into alarm))
Thank you very much I truly appreciate your comment. The electrical/life safety industry is filled with lots of negativity when it comes to sharing it on the Internet where no matter what you do you can't win and somebody won't like it. it's very nice to see positive comments.
You have done a great job with the system, i understand what you mean about the complexity, things can be a pain, also in your opinion do you find it easier to program things into the notifier panel than the firelite since the notifier panel has a built in keyboard?
Thank you. As far as notifier verse firelite the keypad is much easier for labelling but that's about it other than that they are pretty much mostly the same however I do feel like the interface on firelite is laid out a bit easier and things interact more as you would expect if you weren't knowledgable on it if that makes sense. I find the screen shape on notifier makes it a little more odd how things have to be displayed sometimes.
You are a pro at all things alarms, and video editing and production. Always impressed. Not sure age wise and whatnot but I bet you'd make a killing in your own business, especially with the videos you could train others.
@@nics-systems-electricif I was in Canada I wouldn't want anyone else to teach me but you. I've learned a lot of stuff from you and combining the knowledge I already had
For those going to say that he should redo the systems because he deals with problems adding things like he even said in the video. I honestly think he would have a bigger problem and a bigger headache tearing down and redoing either system vs going through these small issues of adding devices to either system. That is my theory!
It's only the garage system that is a little bit crazy to wrap your head around the house system is quite easy to work on and makes sense how it's laid out so that one's fine
reason why on big notifier panels from what i see the relays aren’t programmable is because you’re expected to use a relay module, kinda wack but it’s whatever.
Thanks. It looks fine and it functions fine it's just trying to work on it or add anything can be confusing trying to remember all the additions and how it's wired
Great video, I look forward to see what those extra wires are going to be for. Also, your explanation at the beginning on how much of a PITA setting both modules to trigger an alarm instead of just supervisory reminded me of how much of a pain it was to get my Simplex 4207 and FCI FC-2224 to work together and not to worry about needing to reset both systems. I ended up using the smoke detector power on the FC-2224 to power a relay that would be wired to the 4207’s remote reset contacts. Obviously terrible for life safety systems, but fine for hobby systems. Anyways, sorry for rambling
You should put more boards down in the attic space and/or have a board cut to slide across the top of the joists over the insulation, so you don't have to lay in it.
Could put some more boards up there however it wouldn't help for much laying in it because you need the most room you can get so you pretty much need to lay right on top of the drywall
@@topher8634 yeah I'm going to be adding five recessed lights at the front of my house opposite of the conduit in this video not looking forward to it lol
The video about the thing that texts you when the garage alarm goes off was one of the first videos of yours I watched. Now that there's a supervisory link will it also text you if the house goes into alarm? Based solely on this video I'd think no but assuming the first relay in the Fire-Lite is also programmable I think you could make it work.
You could have gone with an annunciator one for house in garage and one for garage in the house and you would control both systems from either location but those annunciators are expensenive though
That would be around $1500 Canadian minimum not to mention would need at least 10 conductors minimum which would be very challenging to fit in a half inch pipe that already has data in it and then I would need to mount those annunciators somewhere
@@nics-systems-electric the firelite I think is 4 conductor on newer addressable panels but ridiculous cost for those annonctiors your right Cost prohibitive your idea is most practical
You should run the notifier slc over you you can have more monitor moduals. For stuff like id the generator is running or if you security system is triggered.
Nice. So let me get this~ Relay module connects to Monitor module and when relay kicks in, it activates the Monitor module, and then goes into Supv? And vise versa. Also, how do the Monitor module(s) reset them selfs? Arent they normally latchinbg? or is it because its programmed as a Supv. Thanks, and great video!
Hey, definitely not they aren't legally listed in Canada and even if they were they're not very good, that would be a huge downgrade from real fire alarm systems my systems are not hard to work on at all it's only the amount of additions that make the garage system more complicated but that has absolutely nothing to do with the panel and whatever you're using does not make a difference
Not absolutely necessary but no matter what I do people will be upset with me as people wanted me to do this and if I do this people will still be upset that I did do it so it's a battle I can never win
No mean to be rude but i see a few risks in your old videos. In 15min i found the school you live next to please DON"T take this as rude, im just trying to share advice. Also i do hope to see more upgrade and fun projects along the way
Yes people can use Google lens and find the schools and stock my location not a lot I can do about it when there are AI programs that can locate buildings
You should've seen it a couple years ago you don't have much choice when you have too much stuff and not enough space especially when you all the sudden bring home a bunch of stuff from work
Hello from the Deep South of Ontario. Attics suck... almost as much as RUclips comment sections. The work you are doing is professional in caliber. Are you hoping to become a licensed tech?
Thank you and thanks for the comment I'd like to probably go into the fire alarm field but I am going to finish my apprenticeship and become an electrician first and then might consider going into the fire alarm field as long as I can find a position that isn't just testing.
I know you arent happy with the project or the complexity of the system but it makes sense the way you did it and it is providing excellent content. I have done plenty of fishing (not the fun kind) and i knew that wire pull was going to be a awful task. Thanks, and keep up the good work.
Thanks. I had so many requests to do this I don't think people think about the work that goes on in the background that Hass to happen for it to work. it's not as simple as just programming some modules lol
To be honest, I love the systems you installed. You did an excellent job. I agree that you found the perfect balance by programming the systems to trigger a supervisory instead of a full alarm. Another project well done. Looking forward to the next one.
Thank you! I appreciate it, I'm glad you enjoyed.
I was actually going to ask if you were going to do this a little while ago lol. This will definitely provide more protection, Super cool!
0:18 You forgot the tower😂
Yeah I didn't think it really counted as it's only one manual station
Nic I just want to say all your videos are awesome! I really enjoy all I've learned from you. You should be very proud of yourself for all that you do and how smart you are.
Thank you very much I appreciate that I'm glad you enjoy thanks for the comment
Nice job!! Nic I always look forward to your videos
Thanks
I’m certainly glad that the college I went to between 2016 and 2018 had the fire alarms set up properly with the interconnections
(I’m still not sure why the 5+ systems were interconnected, as from what I saw, the other panels would only beep and display “FIRE” and “Fire Link Active” (these were lights on the panel that lit up with the actual words, and yes, the panel was just inside the entrance in each building, I don’t remember what was displayed on the screen on the panel when one of the other panels went into alarm))
Good idea Nic! You did a great job. Must of been a hard work, but you did it!
Thanks. I don't think people realize it's not as simple as just installing the modules when they told me to do this lol
I've seen a few of your videos now. You put some professionals I've worked with to shame. Keep it up, you have a great career ahead of you.
Thank you very much I truly appreciate your comment. The electrical/life safety industry is filled with lots of negativity when it comes to sharing it on the Internet where no matter what you do you can't win and somebody won't like it. it's very nice to see positive comments.
You have done a great job with the system, i understand what you mean about the complexity, things can be a pain, also in your opinion do you find it easier to program things into the notifier panel than the firelite since the notifier panel has a built in keyboard?
Thank you. As far as notifier verse firelite the keypad is much easier for labelling but that's about it other than that they are pretty much mostly the same however I do feel like the interface on firelite is laid out a bit easier and things interact more as you would expect if you weren't knowledgable on it if that makes sense. I find the screen shape on notifier makes it a little more odd how things have to be displayed sometimes.
"You shorted out my SLC you mother!" 🤣
I love this integration. I thought you would've had the garage system on pre-alarm for the house system, but still very nice!
From my experience pre-alarm is only for smoke detectors
Pretty sure you could make pull stations do pre-alarm aswell.
@@lightningking1552 never seen that as a possibility maybe if it was set up as a two-stage pull station with a two-stage system
You did a great job 👌
Thank you!
You are a pro at all things alarms, and video editing and production. Always impressed. Not sure age wise and whatnot but I bet you'd make a killing in your own business, especially with the videos you could train others.
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoy. I'm currently 17 still in school. thanks for the comment
@@nics-systems-electricif I was in Canada I wouldn't want anyone else to teach me but you. I've learned a lot of stuff from you and combining the knowledge I already had
I heard that expletive when the string broke😮
For those going to say that he should redo the systems because he deals with problems adding things like he even said in the video. I honestly think he would have a bigger problem and a bigger headache tearing down and redoing either system vs going through these small issues of adding devices to either system. That is my theory!
It's only the garage system that is a little bit crazy to wrap your head around the house system is quite easy to work on and makes sense how it's laid out so that one's fine
Love it! I think it looks awesome! Keep up the great work!
Thank you
reason why on big notifier panels from what i see the relays aren’t programmable is because you’re expected to use a relay module, kinda wack but it’s whatever.
Supervisor great idea what's going on the house or garage. do your system text message in alarm
i know nothing about fire alarms but i find all these videos super interesting xd
This looks pretty good! TBH I don’t think you need to redo the system because it already looks good. Great video!
Thanks. It looks fine and it functions fine it's just trying to work on it or add anything can be confusing trying to remember all the additions and how it's wired
23:27 Yeah It's Stinking Hot Out In Pennsylvania Aswell
It's OK one month later now we are below zero lol
Your videos are cool
Great video, I look forward to see what those extra wires are going to be for.
Also, your explanation at the beginning on how much of a PITA setting both modules to trigger an alarm instead of just supervisory reminded me of how much of a pain it was to get my Simplex 4207 and FCI FC-2224 to work together and not to worry about needing to reset both systems. I ended up using the smoke detector power on the FC-2224 to power a relay that would be wired to the 4207’s remote reset contacts. Obviously terrible for life safety systems, but fine for hobby systems. Anyways, sorry for rambling
Thank you. Yeah it can become a pain triggering two systems try three in a real building situation fun times lol
@@nics-systems-electriclemme guess, based on a true story?
@@HenBasketFireAlarms yes lol
@@nics-systems-electric oh god, I can only imagine the headaches. And another guess, they were nowhere close to being near each other, were they?
@@HenBasketFireAlarms more like one building with three separate additions with their own system installed
You should put more boards down in the attic space and/or have a board cut to slide across the top of the joists over the insulation, so you don't have to lay in it.
Could put some more boards up there however it wouldn't help for much laying in it because you need the most room you can get so you pretty much need to lay right on top of the drywall
Those low pitch roofs are a pain when needing to reach the eaves or outside walls. I've had many insulation baths.
@@topher8634 yeah I'm going to be adding five recessed lights at the front of my house opposite of the conduit in this video not looking forward to it lol
The video about the thing that texts you when the garage alarm goes off was one of the first videos of yours I watched. Now that there's a supervisory link will it also text you if the house goes into alarm? Based solely on this video I'd think no but assuming the first relay in the Fire-Lite is also programmable I think you could make it work.
At the time of this video no it would not however they are connected now so both systems will text
i like your videos Nic ! Hello from Québec, Canada
Hey, thanks!
What type of fire wire did you did you use during the house alarm build (the one that you said in the vid that would designate
14/3 and 18/3 and 18/5 FAS/LVT
Good job!
That is a nfs2-640 panel 0:33
Nope 320C
are you adding fire doors/magnets to your house?
Maybe one someone
You could have gone with an annunciator one for house in garage and one for garage in the house and you would control both systems from either location but those annunciators are expensenive though
That would be around $1500 Canadian minimum not to mention would need at least 10 conductors minimum which would be very challenging to fit in a half inch pipe that already has data in it and then I would need to mount those annunciators somewhere
@@nics-systems-electric the firelite
I think is 4 conductor on newer addressable panels but ridiculous cost for those annonctiors your right
Cost prohibitive your idea is most practical
i use 14awg tw wire as a pull string
You should run the notifier slc over you you can have more monitor moduals. For stuff like id the generator is running or if you security system is triggered.
That functionality is provided by the firelite system in the garage
Can we see a collection video
What is the supervisory? Is it just the system pays more attention to that or notices it?
A non-alarm condition for monitoring life safety and critical equipment
@@nics-systems-electric alright thanks
good job nick
have a good day
Thank you
Really cool!
I feel your frustration about how annoying getting wires in the conduit areand overall just how abnoying electricians work is in general
There any System Sensor Mass or Classic horn strobes in Canada? Meant to ask that the other day.
Seen the classics plenty but not mass
Nice.
So let me get this~ Relay module connects to Monitor module and when relay kicks in, it activates the Monitor module, and then goes into Supv? And vise versa.
Also, how do the Monitor module(s) reset them selfs? Arent they normally latchinbg? or is it because its programmed as a Supv.
Thanks, and great video!
Thanks. Yes that's right the latching verse non-latching function is all programming
Laying in the insulation is crazy,lt really bothers me. Nice video!
Thanks Yeah it's not the most fun but it is what it is
Hey Nic, Maybe You Should Get A Napco Commercial GEMC And FireLinkFACP To Replace The Honeywell Systems That Are A Pain For You To Work On!
Hey, definitely not they aren't legally listed in Canada and even if they were they're not very good, that would be a huge downgrade from real fire alarm systems my systems are not hard to work on at all it's only the amount of additions that make the garage system more complicated but that has absolutely nothing to do with the panel and whatever you're using does not make a difference
COOL! 🆒 😎 👍🏻
What version is your notifier panel is yours version 29 or 27
Not sure
Very cool! I’m surprised it’s possible.
experimenting an LCD-80F on Notifier NFS-320C
Let me know how it goes as from my understanding they are not compatible with Onyx series panels so that would be interesting if you got it to work
@@nics-systems-electric well it can go up to 32 annunciators including FDU-80/LCD-80F
You need to contact your local fire department and see about the KNOX BOX program if they alarms go off the key is available
This is just my house this isn't commercial property that is monitored so it wouldn't happen however we don't use Knox box here anymore
13:10 *this project was never intended to be fun; but has now turned into a complete pain in the di*k....
The install doesn't look that bad. Most people might not even bother with the box or conduit at all and would slap the wire along the wall all messy
Thanks I appreciate it
i been waiting for this
This is cool
Its crazy how he edits these videos. 1 hour, sheesh.
Can u like add like some strobes for like supervisory you need to that's fine u don't nic and nice vid
woah but is this really nessary if it was in a school with portables this might replicate it lol
Not absolutely necessary but no matter what I do people will be upset with me as people wanted me to do this and if I do this people will still be upset that I did do it so it's a battle I can never win
@@nics-systems-electric that makes sense plus your house and your building you normaly film is in close proximity to make sense
No mean to be rude but i see a few risks in your old videos. In 15min i found the school you live next to please DON"T take this as rude, im just trying to share advice. Also i do hope to see more upgrade and fun projects along the way
Yes people can use Google lens and find the schools and stock my location not a lot I can do about it when there are AI programs that can locate buildings
I know, just wanted to be sure you know
Yes thanks I am aware people like to leak my location and stock my location unfortunately it's nothing new lol
Unlike them I don't like to leak info it seams rude and unfair witch both I don't like. I hope you have a great rest of day
Nice video sheesh tho your garage is messy
You should've seen it a couple years ago you don't have much choice when you have too much stuff and not enough space especially when you all the sudden bring home a bunch of stuff from work
i understand lmao its like a desk some days you clean it the next day it is soooooo messy lmao@@nics-systems-electric
oh this is a bitof an older recording
Only September 19 not too old
@@nics-systems-electric i was woundering!
45:56 *YOU SHORTED OUT MY SLC YOU MOTHER*
Hello from the Deep South of Ontario. Attics suck... almost as much as RUclips comment sections. The work you are doing is professional in caliber. Are you hoping to become a licensed tech?
Thank you and thanks for the comment I'd like to probably go into the fire alarm field but I am going to finish my apprenticeship and become an electrician first and then might consider going into the fire alarm field as long as I can find a position that isn't just testing.
16 mins ago!
Wired it underground?
Yes it goes underground
Type on the fire alarm is possible 💀
Of course how else would you label all your devices?
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