To express appreciation for your efforts (it was interesting to discover Marcus Edblad) and perhaps a bit of a hazard bonus for having to deal with overly blunt commentation. Cheers.
Thanks Marcus, and I definitely will. I see progress each day with this test, and just last night, I was able to add speed with driver, and I've been trying to get that for months. Love the simple method, and really happy to see someone who isn't spewing complicated biomechanics. Just focusing on what you want the club to do.
I have done 3 days of ínstense watching his videos. 1 day of actually putting thoughts into swings and already hit more draws and hooks than I have ever hit…all I could do before was SLICE! I’m amaze what I was able to do with such little time invested!!!
I told you so Chad! I like Marcus' honesty when he said, " If you want to fade the ball, go somewhere else, I hit a draw" The Driver technique he demonstrates to release early makes so much sense to me.
Nice that your promoting Marcus.. I've been watching him for some time. He's changed my driving to being long and straight with swinging out to the right with early release. Good stuff. Love this content Chad! Keep it up!
Marcus is incredible I can’t believe the results and the confidence I now have . I set up and hit it almost like no swing thoughts that has never happened. That is probably the biggest difference in all the other swings I’ve tried
Ive seen thousands and thousands of RUclips golf videos and teachers. This guy was the only one that put it in a way that is super simple and just makes a lot of sense. It was a little rough at first. There was definitely a lot of blocks and got into a case of the duck hooks but it took me about 2 months of going to the range to dial it in. For me the last key part that brought everything together was an open stance. I’ve always thought and been taught for a draw you need a close stance. With a close stance I was almost always duck hooking it. With the open stance it seemed that it was slightly harder to swing to the right but it closed the club face to the path. And the more I swung to the right the better the shot was .With that open stance it was almost always a slight push or a nice tight draw. Don’t get me wrong there are definitely still a lot of hooks and pushes but the timing gets better with practice. For me I got a little worse before I got better but stick with it. It works. It definitely works.
Too many videos😂 I thought watching to many videos was hurting my game which it probably was but you search long enough and you do fall into some gems that just click and this guy did it for me.
Great that you are promoting Marcus golf swing ! Here my story: 68 years old lefty golfer with more than 60 years of ice hockey background. I just came back from Myrtle Beach ( winter 2024) were I spent one month at the driving range hitting a basket of golf balls almost every day using the slap shoot golf swing. I went from hitting 75% of my shoots slicing and big fade with the driver to about 5% . I am now hitting 60% draw and 35% small fade. I now carry the ball near 220 yards in the air from the usual 170 yards before using my new golf swing. Big bonus I gave up golf 4 year ago due to back problem because of golf ( bad swings) I did not have any issue even practicing every day for a month
This is why I love your content!!! You are not afraid to try something new. I am going to watch his videos give it a test myself and see if I learn anything new and beneficial for me… Looking forward to the rest of the videos and your driver swing with this technique!
Marcus does have some very good stuff but there's an old instructional book (recommended to me by a teaching pro...who used it to go from a -2 to a plus 3 hcp...) that explains much of what he teaches and - IMHO - does it a lot better. The book is 'The Inside Path to Better Golf' (Kostis and Dennis, 1982, Golf Digest Books). He called it the "best almost completely unknown golf instructional book of all time". The book is not one of those "all inclusive" texts that tries to teach you every aspect of the game. Kostis simply leads you through 4 stages of learning how to convert your old slice to a strong draw.
I love Marcus' video's, he's a great guy. I must admit, through years of using my body poorly, I found it extremely difficult to hit out to the right. I just couldnt seem to stall my rotation enough to get the hands and club moving in the right direction. The thing that helped me the most was putting my ball position way back of centre. Your interpretation of his method seems spot on and more than happy to hear your views. Great video, bud.
Thanks as always! Yeah, the ball position freaks a lot of people out, but you just have to get weird and try it. The problem is that we have so much conventional golf and accepted information programmed into us, it's hard to imagine other things.
Great video. I’ve been following Marcus Edblad for about 3-4 months now and I’ve really made some gains in my ball striking with all of my clubs. Good stuff.
Coincidentally, I've been studying this guy for the last 3 weeks, as well. The big takeaway for me was letting the right hand provide the power (push) instead of pulling with the left hand. If you can relax enough to do this, you'll be amazed at the extra yardage. I'm still working on that. You will have a tendency to roll over with the right hand and pull it left, but we should be able to work that out.
Found Marcus because of your page. Seems to suit my game as Ive been working with an open stance but fading the ball. Watching your explanation and following Marcus i’ve started to see that draw. Not all the time but i’m working on it.
I have been following Marcus and his videos. His swing thoughts are not following the " norm" but really make sense in many ways. You have a new follower:) To Marcus. Good for you!
Followed & applied some of Marcus' ideas, he makes sense to me in my understanding of swing & ball path. I've had great results after only 2 practice sessions
Been following Marcus Edblad for 2 weeks now and what a difference it's made to my game, knocked 10 to 12 strokes off my rounds, would be 15 or 16 strokes if I could putt. He's recommended people to follow your channel so here I am. 👍
Thx for the video. I know Marcus really focuses on the throw of the clubhead from the top. Do you think it’s easier to do this with the hands/wrists or more of a straightening and extension of the trail arm?
So lucky I stumbled across Jim and your self. 58 yr old late starter playing for 8 months. Had lessons but still not confident with my shots until I tried Jim’s technique. After my first session at the range people were watching me hit my 7 iron right down the middle and landing on the 150 green. Stoked to hit the ball now.
I've been following Marcus for a few weeks. He says it's hard, and u need to hit alot of balls. What attracted me was I have severe back pain when I swing thinking of my hips, with Marcus I don't have any, and although I'm still in the habit of swinging from out to in, I have had a few shots that were the best I've hit in my life from his method of throwing. I'm Canadian with alot of hockey experience so I just do my hockey swing as he says, and will eventually have a consistent effortless draw.
I follow Marcus and I believe in his method. Unfortunately I did not discover his channel until a few weeks ago so I need more time before I can comment on my progress, but to me he makes things easy to understand.
Oh man, that’s beautiful! I tried it with my PW and it is really simple and fun! Reminding me of a shortstop or second baseman making that type of throwing motion to first base.👍🏽😃. I’m glad you’re doing this review for us Chad, thanks!
I have been followIng Marcus for couple of weeks, study his instructions and have tried his method. It is quite strange approach but once you can adjust your swing into Marcus style, it work very well and much more easier than conventional swing. Very recommended.
Well done ,love Marcus ,can I suggest you try some ice hockey swings with split grip and feel the fright hand over take the left at or just past impact.this will get the low point just past the ball with intended direction 45 degrees right.the driver is quite different but am sure Marcus explained it well.
I actually just started taking lessons and have been really focused on this recently and it's helped a LOT!! Way more power, and hitting more fairways, FINALLY hitting draws. Consistency isn't there yet but finally seeing some real progress!!
Hi Chad - As recommended I have subscribed to Marcus's YT channel and watched a few of his videos and have learnt a lot in a very short while. Many thanks for bringing this channel to your subscribers attention.
I'm trying Marcus' method now, 1 week into it. I have regained lost yardage in all my clubs, as much as 10 yards. I takes a lot of work to change over from a "body" swing to an "arms and hands" swing. I hit balls on the range three times and I have played two rounds with this method and hit some really good shots. The bad shots come in my driver, hitting low duck hooks. It is not the fault of the method, it is the fault of years of using too much body rotation in the down swing. Since I am having success with this method, I will continue to work to slow my body rotation down and hopefully this will decrease the misses to the left (right handed golfer).
Loving this Chad! Found Marcus couple weeks ago and immediately started following him. I was super intrigued about his methods..glad you’re on board with this because I think it’s a good swing as well. See you in the next one!
Started following Marcus a few weeks ago. He has transformed my golf game. For the first time I feel like I have control of my swing. Great that you're giving him some props. I've followed you for some time now and love that you do what I basically do, try a lot of things. I think I'm done with that except for some refining. I'll still check your videos because I just like them!
Much appreciated Steve! I try to mix it up and do different videos, but RUclips hates variety with small channels for some reason. They want you in your lane. Thanks for the support.
Chad just found your channel via Marcus Edblad golf because a couple guys said they were sent there by you. I have been working on the Marcus Method for about a month now and I have found that if the lead shoulder tries to lead the downswing it starts rotating open too soon and then it is difficult to extend out to the right of the target line. So by keeping the lead shoulder quiet it allows for my arms and the club to extend to the right. Also there is a tendency in the beginning for the shaft to roll counter clockwise thru impact which will cause a hook. But if I lead with the heel of the club it keeps the toe up and prevents the hook. Hope these personal insights help your viewers.
Thanks Chris, and I know what you mean in both instances. For you, leading with the heel helps to get it right, but for me, I focus on getting the toe up and going toward the sky. Rather than letting it stay open or roll over.
Great tutorial ! I see you use a baseball grip, do you have any instruction on that topic. I had a severe thumb injury and I have to use a baseball - hockey grip. I think that grip work well with that technique. Thanks. The baseball - hockey grip suits you very well.
I switched to the 10 finger grip well over a year ago during the single plane swing review I filmed. There's a video posted on my channel from then on my grip. I have pretty bad wrist and hand pains, and the change helped a bit.
Hi Chad….long time watcher first time commenting…….intensely watched ME’s method went out and practiced both sides of what he talked about, the interesting thing was I went out on the course and started bombing drives, nice soft draws, irons soft to a little hookey. Hit like never before…….then I really doubled down on practice ………lol lost the whole thing!!!??! Love this game called golf. Just have go back to basics and keep at it. Appreciate you taking the bullets for us Chad.
Haha, thanks, Wayne. I'm sorry to hear that, though. I think what you just summarized is a HUGELY common thing with golfers across all methods. I've experienced it many times. My theory is that we find something, it's fairly simple, it works for a time, and then, we try to oversimplify it AND, we have also created a new normal. Our frame of reference changes because now we're familiar with the "new stuff". It's a vicious cycle.
Welcome Peter! I have always gravitated toward and highlighted unconventional teachers that have real merit, and I try to help expose more people to them.
I started Marcus way a month ago, I play from the back tees 2 times in a row, this thing works for me, just let it happen, the idea that the body aims to one place and the club swing out, trip my brain out big time, as it’s not what we have been though, but after 3 weeks of none stop, it makes sense , works for me, 75 from the back tees on a par 72, I take it, but just like every golf change, make sure you work on this while keeping what you got, you know how fast you can screw up your golf swing, taste it out on real time if it works great, I still working on it, but I still have my back up, which feels not natural but it works
Got here from Marcus Edblad video (my Swedish golf coach). He is the best. Makes it look so easy. Don't slice anymore. Driver is hardest to master. After years of missing right swinging out there takes some guts to trust it coming back. So have used initially to straighten drives and slowly aiming further right. Irons I tend to over draw so keeping toe up is big focus.
keys for me: for irons ball is center or just back of center (helps in to out)...takeaway rhand face closed....swing exaggersted in to out..throw the club smooth snd loose
New sub,Great job! Marcus sent me. The magic I found in his videos was the hand movement Episode. I was definitely a lag dragger and a wrist rotator, that definitely caused my snap hook. Find the video that explains how the wrist should move, According to him. This was the switch that lit the bulb. Once I got my hands moving in the right direction I'm able to just drop that iron without worrying about my body turning as much as I used to,Effortless distance. This type of hand movement also helped with my driver. Now I'm just learning better ball positions and tee heights. That hand movement will definitely help with that forward release you were mentioning. Take care everyone! 🙋♂️
Hi Chad, I just found this video on Marcus Edblad which I found excellent. I’m going to sign up with Marcus to see how I get along. Would you recommend this system for a 78 year old golfer? Thank you.
Marcus makes a pretty good argument. He says that even when he's older and can't walk as well, he'll still be able to use his hands. It's a fair point. Marcus is a good guy and we talk often.
I have taken there lessons with Marcus and I must say that the development for me have been really good and I always think about the routines when hitting the ball. For me, extremely worth while investing in the lessons from him.
New sub here and l just recently sub to Marcus wow that guy can hit it a mile effortlessly. l am trying his push method and it also helps me understand the mistakes l have in my current swing itself l am trying to switch between the two now that l have a better understanding of the difference between a pull swing, hit (trail arm) and a push swing (trail arm) that Marcu is teaching. Just have to ingrain it so it becomes automatic.
Once you got the release point locked in each shot was the same, like JV teaching to block the big hook into the baby draw. Different methods that get the same result, good stuff Chad. And many people don’t wanna play a draw cuz they’re so afraid of the duck hook.
Jim I was JUST experimenting a couple hours ago, and found a striking similarity between JV and this, but in polar opposite ways, creating the same results..... stay tuned.
@@GolfTestDummy Hey Chad, I just hit a big bucket of balls playing around with Marcus method, it’s gonna take time to go from a left sided controlled swing to this method. Marcus has a great video about the shoulders rotating on the plane where the ball is, it made me realize that most traditional teaching tells you to rotate your hips around you, us high handicappers have a tough time rotating our hips one way and our shoulders another. His method has no focus on the lower body, just the correct shoulder movement and not pulling the left hand through where the right hand can’t catch up and square the club face. Marcus is the only teacher I’ve seen who tells to take swings doing it the wrong way so you can feel the difference from the correct way.
Jim let me just say that you have a video coming that is almost custom for you, haha. I was experimenting, going back and forth from JV to Marcus. I was lacing shots with both. I'll be making that video at some point.
Well you went and did it. Thought he might be a little fringe for you. I have watched many of his videos and so far have not tried to implement what he is promoting, though I have no doubt I will. My driver is terrible right now and I am grasping at straws for some consistency and some length. This guy promises both. I just want so much to be better. Thanks again for what you do, I am gonna look sweet in one of those polo's.
Haha, thanks PJ! The first little while, the driver wasn't working, but once a few pieces tripped for me, boom. I've added considerable distance.... I'll be sharing all of this stuff in coming videos, so stay tuned. And the site will HOPEFULLY be up in early to mid October. Working on all the legal crap.
By "too fringe", do you mean that his swing model is too far off the beaten path? Or that he himself has a fringe personality? I haven't been able to try this on course yet, and it's early days, but I dont have any reason to doubt that it will carry over onto the course. The coming weeks will tell.
@@GolfTestDummy I meant too fringe in that it is far from the "NORM". Every time I get on the range to work this, I resort back to trying the same stuff. I just gotta commit to this or to something!
Careful mate, you're going to get that open top car ride in dallas claiming that the back swing will naturally change to fit your intention. You any idea the amount of money invested in hitting position 2 3 and 4 in the back swing, let alone "trigger" movements to start the down swing 😉😂
Test Dummy, its good that you add to what Marcus teaches with a different point of view !!!! like focusing on the trail arm and hand what it is supposed to do after impact
So glad that you pointed that out, because that's really the value of the review. It's not helpful for me to just parrot what someone else already says. You have to offer something beyond that. Thank you.
Hi, Chad, I found Marcus in recent month and did try his methods such as trail hand push over lead hand, the feeling is special. One question about your setup, it seems you still use single plane swing foundation, am I right? Thanks.
How far out are you thinking of throwing out the clubhead, when you say corner are you referencing the corner of your screen ? Im struggling a bit with it, don't think im releasing it properly tbh ? Think i need some different feels
When I was doing this, throwing it to the corner of my screen was my thought, and getting the toe of the club straight up when I had the shaft parallel to the ground on the follow through.
In trying this method with irons the shots come off as low baby draws or pull draws. What kind of ball flights did you experience and how what adjustments did you make to get the ball to draw with a decent launch ? Thanks
That could be as a result of ball position and/or a rolling of the hands. It's also possible that you're moving forward, as in transferring weight, during the swing. I've got a video coming out Monday that should offer some insight. I get high ball flights, and I think it's a result of my weight and the way I go about it.
Also “keeping the toe up” is elusive for me. Maybe you could demonstrate the toe up motion real slow in a video we could see how the motion of the toe up looks like. Again Thanks
I'm not sure where you ball position is now, but maybe. And starting with more weight on the trail foot and keeping it there, is one of the things that will be in Monday's video. Also, the toe up thing as well. The best way I can explain toe up is to either think about it matching your spine angle, or imagining that you're trying to hit the toe of the club on the bottom of a shelf or a table.
No, that was a big one, haha. I'll say this much; I have some gapping issues, so that 6 might be closer to a 5. I have new forged irons coming so we will see what happens.
The fact that he tosses out a lot of myths, and has alternatives to conventionally accepted "must do's", is awesome, and eliminates a lot of the pains and injuries.
From what I've seen, I'm not really sure that he has a steadfast setup that MUST be. He does advocate an open setup, and a ball position that's not way forward. In my eye, he also favors a trail leg weight majority, and staying there until after the shot has left.
I’ve long fought hitting a fade as my go to shot but there’s something about a draw that’s just powerful and freeing! Do I see a bombtech driver in your bag??
I've played a few rounds in the low 80's with Marcus Swing. It's hands down the easiest swing on your body, yet hits the farthest. Short game is very easy when you let right hand lead the action. The driver is the only club I have problems with. Will pop up some drives until you get used to it
Seems like I’ve tried every new swing concept that comes along … guess I’ll give this one a try as well. Fingers crossed that this is the answer. 75 years old … I’m tired, ha.
So i just checked out his channel but im confused...how are you learning anything from him with him not speaking english? Does he have an english channel im missing or something?
I’ve seen this dude pop up on my feed but had no idea of his philosophy only watching one video. I’ll have to check his driver vids as others mentioned as I’ve noticed I’ve lost some distance after working on my accuracy.
@@GolfTestDummy you sent me down the same rabbit hole, watched about 20 of his videos in a row last night. Question: have you kept a log regarding yardages from all of the different methods you have tried? It seems like this new method is the longest of all, I remember your 6 iron only going 180 at one point.
Your follow through and finish is much like Steve Elkington’s ..these ideas are not conventional but they do have a lot in common with Steve Elkington’s ideas as well as many of the old timers like Mike Austin.
I personally enjoy my koolaid flavor inbarly . your segment here reminds me of something Trevino said you can talk to a fade . not knocking Marcus but you better hit a draw if your going to win a long drive contest. And works well dipsy doodle . with wind blowing from left. Swinging out with face closed to path purfibly ball back a bit. There's a fellow trying to get hit on this channel you might as well check out its a little foggy with the red print yet but being from the south you have to slow it down a bit. He's got a fairly good shot of hogans swing and things to activate. The Bobby Locke pitching is pretty good. It's in the hands that we could debate later.
Ya my draw controll sucks. My brain closes the face. Just seems like more timing involved. Probably does suit your swing . I'm a pounder swing style so there is some thing to be said about the differents between hitting and swinging . Ya but check the feller out he's capital DASH1ful . if that don't work I'll dig a little deeper. I'm not that computer calculus friendly right now.
I will analyze Marcus's videos . I never agree 100% with anyone but I've come to the conclusion that we can learn something from everyone. I will tell Marcus that you have a man crush on him. That is one bad azz cool friggen shirt Chad. Thanks
Haha, thanks Mike. And I have to agree that 100 percent is rarely, if not never, going to work for everyone. I think Marcus has trail side dominance, with weight back on trail leg, and rotating or pivoting on the back leg. Hand speed and hands being the focus, has the body facilitating movements to allow the hands to lead. Body supports the movement of the hands.
@@GolfTestDummy First video was good in regards to training the brain to find the preferred low point. He failed to mention that it must be from a shallow angle of attack. Most will come over the top and still accomplish that task. This guy appears to have a solid biomechanical swing and if anyone says it is natural and not trained they are lying. This guy has hit many golfballs and it wouldn't surprise me if he was coached. I need to look at his swing closer but I will bet he has a weak grip due to the fact that he looked flippy thru impact. Sounded like very solid contact however he might have the exceptional ability to square the clubface thru impact. This can only be achieved by hitting many golfballs everyday. The action and sequence of the feet , knees and pelvis cannot be ignored and must be trained. He seems like a cool guy but the judge is still out.
@@GolfTestDummy I thought the same that Marcus had some similarity to Channel Lock / JV swing. He looks like a powerfully built bloke that worked out this stuff by trial and error. Having maximum release before impact makes sense to me, rather than after contact. I don't always get it right with Driver, but when I do they fly further. So far, if the course is wide open and a slight block is OK I try the ME swing. If not, I try the Eureka swing for a slight draw but in play.
Yo Steve. As soon as I heard Chad say swing out to the right, my ears perked up. Now start moving the ball back in your stance and keep swinging out to the right, and you are in Channel Lock City my brother. Sorry, but I'm Locked in! 😎
(Adding this: I'd compare him to *Malaska golf,* i.e. lots of common sense and good advice - and I try to find the best advices that works for me, that I can use). I actually think he (Edblad, just as Malaska too) has one of the best golf channels in the world (with so many good helpful advices in almost every video, often small key things that makes you think or realize something about golf swings, and like he himself says, there are many different ways of doing the golf swing). And I have looked at many golf channels. But there are some other very good golf channels too out there. But Edblad is among the top 5 educational golf channels out there, in my opinion. However, the channel is in Swedish (that I speak too) but I don't think there are any English translations to the videos? But like I said, it's various small key things, that he usually helps to bring understanding and insights about, and which you can realize. So I don't understand how English speaking people will be able to really enjoy all the gold that is on his channel, or are there English translations available to all his many great, and often short videos, addressing various topics?
He has an English speaking channel now, which is fantastic, and I really wanted to try and help expose more golfers to him. This stuff can help so many people find better golf. Awesome stuff.
Chad, I noticed that when you were setting up your feet were angled in an open to the target position. Meaning your lead (left) foot was farther back than your right foot. This position is the classic fade setup. For a draw, it would be easier if your lead foot was farther forward than your right, I.e., closed to target. This was you’re sure to swing out to the right for the draw. Also your club face also needs to be slight right of target. In other words, club face slightly right of target and path of swing a little farther right of club face.
I’ve always thought the same too.. open stance has been getting way better results. It seems with that open stance you can swing way more to right field and it keeps that club face close to the path better.
Marcus's swing is very unconventional . He does things that are very unique. The lowerbody pivot is full and text book. Regardless of what he feels he starts the downswing with the lower body and gets a weight shift. What you see in video is actually a rebound off the lead foot from pushing .He does things in his golfswing that would make Moe Norman say "WTF" ? Instead of starting 2 feet behind the ball at address he moves swing center up and away until his clubhead hovers 4 inches above the ball. Then what he does with the hands and arms throughout the swing is even more unique. His swing is very much in to out which explains his ball position. You have to admire the guy for such a unique and powerful swing . If not well that's just stupid. LOL
Haha, I noticed some of those things as well. He mentioned in one video that move up to start was a habit. I have a video coming out today with some of the things that helped me, and it's full of "unconventional", and I'm sure there will be no shortage of people lined up to call me a moron. That's cool. It'll be like family holiday dinners!
Well there's a lot of slight misunderstanding here in terms of what you he's doing in order to achieve his draw. I'll go on record as saying that I don't think that it's a particularly good swing but it works and is a lot better than many swings that are out there. His swing is quite Shane Lowry-like in the takeaway and the overall motion also has similarities. What you are doing is very different from what he is doing especially in the takeaway. However trying to extend out to right field later in your video got you into a slightly better copy of what he is doing. You do tend to swing out to the right somewhat naturally anyway and then you normally sort of pull down into the ball to hit it straight. It is noteworthy that Shane Lowry both is known for a bent lead arm and predominantly (almost exclusively) hits a draw. So if you really want to have his takeaway which is essential to what he is doing you need to bend your lead arm early and get the lead arm going up earlier while simutaneoulsy pulling the trail elbow back enough to start flipping the club up and around and pretty much right up and over and line with the lead shoulder and lead arm. This move allows a lot of quick early agressive wrist cocking while "flipping" the club head up and over and behind the lead shoulder. By the way, the bending of the lead arm in the early takeaway is very helpful in getting the arm and club moving up quickly and in flipping it around and behind the lead shoulder. This is why he can swing from the inside so much; because the club is aggressively cocked over the lead arm and as soon as he starts the lead shoulder down and inside out the club naturally and invariably follows it and then one can just control the release of the torso to release through and square the club from the inside. It is worth noting that when you swing like this, the motion of the upper lead arm is on a very tight arc (there is very little arm extension and reaching with the arms in this back swing) and thus if you watch him you can see that his lead upper arm moves up very quickly and just folds right under and across his chin. His takeaway arm motion is the reason he is able to swing inside out and maintain his hip distance from the ball through impact because that arm motion allows him to swing out to the ball. You are still moving closer to the ball because your arm motion does not resemble his and is still a version of your previous arm motion. Thus you are more tending to move the center line of your torso out towards the target line in order to try and replicate his draw motion rather than just moving the club out. If you could manage to replicate his actual arm motion it might help you to learn to swing down on plane from your across the line position at the top. If you want any further information to help you understand this, I'll be glad to offer you more input. Cheers.
You took the long way around to tell me my swing is no good again. That I think I'm doing something, but I'm not, lol. I'm not trying to make my swing look like his. I'm trying to do what he says, which is an intention to swing across the line, with trail arm dominance, right? That's really the only prerequisite. Now when I get into a groove, and I've been swinging a bit, I can feel a bump with my body to let the arms start moving back, and the club feels like it lifts quickly with the bending of my trail arm. From there, my feel is to extend quickly down and let the club whoosh out and forward, with the toe up, leading the way to the sky on the other side.
@@GolfTestDummy Well, I am speaking with the goal of getting you on plane and improving your technique as I have been all along. The way that he takes the club back puts the club across the line AND behind his turn down so he can swing OUT to the ball and keep his hips a fairly consistent distance from the ball. This is why he has the ball so far back because he can only swing out that much in the early downswing. Also this method will work for him with any club even one with a longerr shaft where he has to swing OUT but with a flatter plane. You can manage this with a 7-iron or so but I doubt that you will manage it very easily with a 3-wood or driver. As I have mentioned before, that length of club (7-iron) gives you the best chance of swinging on plane with your particular technique but it will be harder with a longer shaft and very hard with a 3-wood because of the precision of the angle of attack required. It is not merely trail arm dominance that is required; it is trail arm dominance with the shaft releasing on plane from far enough from the ball in order to release the toe of the club. In order to do that consistently through the bag, it will be necessary to be able to start down on plane and swing out to the ball with hips a fairly consistent distance from the ball and to do that using something like his method you need a takeaway like his. The real acid test of what he is doing is that he can produce a solid draw with his fairway woods. This is because he has, as I have mentioned to you quite a bit, width in front of his body in his takeaway. Because he is emphasizing the rear portion of the swing, he HAS to get the club up fast and inside in order to have width on the way down and be able to swing out to and through the ball with his arms so it's just another version of the same thing that I have been talking to you about in terms of width being what is required. If you try a driver and check the butt end of the club for plane while swinging OUT at the ball that is somewhat back in your stance like he does, you will find that the only way to swing on plane is to take the club away something like he does. If you swing back the way that you are, you will start down way off plane. In any case, you can try what you like but I am just trying to tell it like it is and ultimately help. Cheers.
@@GolfTestDummy By the way, I just want to be clear that I would never say that your swing is no good both because that is mean and because it's just not true at all. Your swing has a lot of excellent qualities and many of them have continued to get better as I've watched you so I'm sorry if anything that I've said has given you that impression. Basically you are pretty darn close to having an excellent swing but are just held back by a few details. In fact, I think that the whole problem could largely be corrected by improving the relationship between the motion of your chest and your upper lead arm. In the best swings. the upper lead arm is constantly reflecting the changes in the shoulder turn as the lead moves down, around, etc. and the wrist cock works in accordance with those changes so that the lead arm becomes almost a direct reflection of the way that the lead shouder moves. This in turn puts the club shaft in position to be pulled down on plane. Your early takeaway motions tend to be out of synch with your shoulder motion and thus the club has to be somewhat dragged back into a reasonable striking position. You were doing a somewhat better version of that motion in your demonstration swings (like at 5:09) but perhaps need to do that and keep your chest down a bit more an get the club head moving up a little faster. When you actually swung, it was much more like your usual takeaway so I think that you just would need to get used to a takeaway that feels really different in order to fully fix the problem. Cheers.
@@GolfTestDummy I also realized that when I said that it's "not a particularly good swing" that it could have sounded like I was talking about your swing. In fact, I was talking about Marcus' swing because I don't like the model of swing that it represents. Interestingly enough, I discovered that exact swing model when I was trying to understand exactly how the downswing works. I mean EXACTLY the same. It taught me a lot about how the club drops into the slot in the downswing and basically a more standard swing just moves a set of similar positions more towards the lead side of the stance but the mechanics of transitioning and dropping the club into the slot remain virtually the same however things end up looking quite different. I ruled it out as a potential candidate for a swing that I would promote because I felt that swinging out at the ball when it's back in the stance did not seem like a method with enough flexibility to accomodate different shots. However , it did occur to me that many individuals might find it easier to achieve a solid hit using such an approach. So it was interesting to find out about Marcus. If you understood that to mean your swing, I am sorry that I wasn't clearer in my comment. Cheers.
been following that dude for 3 months. AFTER STUDYING THE GOLF SWING AND PRACTICING AT NAUSEAUM ......... MARCUS. confirmed all my suspicions that what I was doing was RIGHT ALL THE TIME .... THE POWER AND SWING IS (((((((((((. BEFORE. ))))))). NOT ((((((( AFTER THE BALL )))))))
To express appreciation for your efforts (it was interesting to discover Marcus Edblad) and perhaps a bit of a hazard bonus for having to deal with overly blunt commentation. Cheers.
Haha, I expect nothing less Timothy!
So much fun to hear someone else talk about my videos. Good job on your channel, a lot of good stuff. Thanks and keep going. 👍
Thanks Marcus, and I definitely will. I see progress each day with this test, and just last night, I was able to add speed with driver, and I've been trying to get that for months. Love the simple method, and really happy to see someone who isn't spewing complicated biomechanics. Just focusing on what you want the club to do.
I have done 3 days of ínstense watching his videos. 1 day of actually putting thoughts into swings and already hit more draws and hooks than I have ever hit…all I could do before was SLICE! I’m amaze what I was able to do with such little time invested!!!
I told about you on my swedish channel with 13700subs. Hope it will give you some new subs.
@@johnanthony6092 Great job John. I'm happy to know that one more golfer understands that holding lag is a bad concept for speed. Keep going. 💪
The left arm looks a little too straight on the way back.
I told you so Chad!
I like Marcus' honesty when he said, " If you want to fade the ball, go somewhere else, I hit a draw" The Driver technique he demonstrates to release early makes so much sense to me.
Pretty awesome stuff, huh? Simple, repeatable, and doesn't follow convention.
Nice that your promoting Marcus.. I've been watching him for some time. He's changed my driving to being long and straight with swinging out to the right with early release. Good stuff. Love this content Chad! Keep it up!
Thanks Kent! It's changing my game and I'm seeing very positive results so far.
Marcus is incredible I can’t believe the results and the confidence I now have . I set up and hit it almost like no swing thoughts that has never happened. That is probably the biggest difference in all the other swings I’ve tried
I love this. Same here. Very few, if any, swing thoughts and complications.
I had never heard of Marcus before, but now I am hooked. Great stuff, and keep it going.
Thanks Brian! Much more to come.
Ive seen thousands and thousands of RUclips golf videos and teachers. This guy was the only one that put it in a way that is super simple and just makes a lot of sense. It was a little rough at first. There was definitely a lot of blocks and got into a case of the duck hooks but it took me about 2 months of going to the range to dial it in. For me the last key part that brought everything together was an open stance. I’ve always thought and been taught for a draw you need a close stance. With a close stance I was almost always duck hooking it. With the open stance it seemed that it was slightly harder to swing to the right but it closed the club face to the path. And the more I swung to the right the better the shot was .With that open stance it was almost always a slight push or a nice tight draw. Don’t get me wrong there are definitely still a lot of hooks and pushes but the timing gets better with practice. For me I got a little worse before I got better but stick with it. It works. It definitely works.
I can identify with a ton of that. Especially the part about watching thousands of videos.
Too many videos😂 I thought watching to many videos was hurting my game which it probably was but you search long enough and you do fall into some gems that just click and this guy did it for me.
Great that you are promoting Marcus golf swing ! Here my story: 68 years old lefty golfer with more than 60 years of ice hockey background. I just came back from Myrtle Beach ( winter 2024) were I spent one month at the driving range hitting a basket of golf balls almost every day using the slap shoot golf swing. I went from hitting 75% of my shoots slicing and big fade with the driver to about 5% . I am now hitting 60% draw and 35% small fade. I now carry the ball near 220 yards in the air from the usual 170 yards before using my new golf swing. Big bonus I gave up golf 4 year ago due to back problem because of golf ( bad swings) I did not have any issue even practicing every day for a month
This is why I love your content!!! You are not afraid to try something new.
I am going to watch his videos give it a test myself and see if I learn anything new and beneficial for me…
Looking forward to the rest of the videos and your driver swing with this technique!
Thanks Eloy! Much appreciated, and more progress to come.
Marcus does have some very good stuff but there's an old instructional book (recommended to me by a teaching pro...who used it to go from a -2 to a plus 3 hcp...) that explains much of what he teaches and - IMHO - does it a lot better. The book is 'The Inside Path to Better Golf' (Kostis and Dennis, 1982, Golf Digest Books). He called it the "best almost completely unknown golf instructional book of all time". The book is not one of those "all inclusive" texts that tries to teach you every aspect of the game. Kostis simply leads you through 4 stages of learning how to convert your old slice to a strong draw.
I love Marcus' video's, he's a great guy. I must admit, through years of using my body poorly, I found it extremely difficult to hit out to the right. I just couldnt seem to stall my rotation enough to get the hands and club moving in the right direction. The thing that helped me the most was putting my ball position way back of centre. Your interpretation of his method seems spot on and more than happy to hear your views. Great video, bud.
Thanks as always! Yeah, the ball position freaks a lot of people out, but you just have to get weird and try it. The problem is that we have so much conventional golf and accepted information programmed into us, it's hard to imagine other things.
Thanks!
Thanks so much, TD!
Great video. I’ve been following Marcus Edblad for about 3-4 months now and I’ve really made some gains in my ball striking with all of my clubs. Good stuff.
Coincidentally, I've been studying this guy for the last 3 weeks, as well. The big takeaway for me was letting the right hand provide the power (push) instead of pulling with the left hand. If you can relax enough to do this, you'll be amazed at the extra yardage. I'm still working on that. You will have a tendency to roll over with the right hand and pull it left, but we should be able to work that out.
Absolutely. It takes some time and practice but it is powerful and simple.
Found Marcus because of your page. Seems to suit my game as Ive been working with an open stance but fading the ball. Watching your explanation and following Marcus i’ve started to see that draw. Not all the time but i’m working on it.
I have been following Marcus and his videos. His swing thoughts are not following the " norm" but really make sense in many ways. You have a new follower:) To Marcus. Good for you!
Welcome Anders! Marcus has one of the best instructional channels out there.
No one better than Marcus on RUclips for easy and results golf instruction. You will thank Chad for the mention. 😊
Followed & applied some of Marcus' ideas, he makes sense to me in my understanding of swing & ball path. I've had great results after only 2 practice sessions
Been following Marcus Edblad for 2 weeks now and what a difference it's made to my game, knocked 10 to 12 strokes off my rounds, would be 15 or 16 strokes if I could putt. He's recommended people to follow your channel so here I am. 👍
Thanks Gordon and I have plenty more videos coming on this!
Thx for the video. I know Marcus really focuses on the throw of the clubhead from the top. Do you think it’s easier to do this with the hands/wrists or more of a straightening and extension of the trail arm?
So lucky I stumbled across Jim and your self. 58 yr old late starter playing for 8 months. Had lessons but still not confident with my shots until I tried Jim’s technique. After my first session at the range people were watching me hit my 7 iron right down the middle and landing on the 150 green. Stoked to hit the ball now.
That's great Brent! I'll tell you this much, I never get tired of hitting golf balls.
I've been following Marcus for a few weeks. He says it's hard, and u need to hit alot of balls. What attracted me was I have severe back pain when I swing thinking of my hips, with Marcus I don't have any, and although I'm still in the habit of swinging from out to in, I have had a few shots that were the best I've hit in my life from his method of throwing. I'm Canadian with alot of hockey experience so I just do my hockey swing as he says, and will eventually have a consistent effortless draw.
I follow Marcus and I believe in his method. Unfortunately I did not discover his channel until a few weeks ago so I need more time before I can comment on my progress, but to me he makes things easy to understand.
Oh man, that’s beautiful! I tried it with my PW and it is really simple and fun! Reminding me of a shortstop or second baseman making that type of throwing motion to first base.👍🏽😃. I’m glad you’re doing this review for us Chad, thanks!
I love that excitement Charlie! Comments like that keep me going. Thank you.
I have been followIng Marcus for couple of weeks, study his instructions and have tried his method. It is quite strange approach but once you can adjust your swing into Marcus style, it work very well and much more easier than conventional swing. Very recommended.
Absolutely true. I agree completely. If you can just try and think differently and be open to it, his method can REALLY make a difference.
Marcus sent me here! I love your channel or at least what I have watched so far. Sir, you just got yourself a new subscriber. ❤️
Much appreciated Ludwig! I post a new video every Monday, and there's plenty more to come on this series.
Well done ,love Marcus ,can I suggest you try some ice hockey swings with split grip and feel the fright hand over take the left at or just past impact.this will get the low point just past the ball with intended direction 45 degrees right.the driver is quite different but am sure Marcus explained it well.
I actually just started taking lessons and have been really focused on this recently and it's helped a LOT!! Way more power, and hitting more fairways, FINALLY hitting draws. Consistency isn't there yet but finally seeing some real progress!!
All it takes is more time and practice in the right direction 😉
Hi Chad - As recommended I have subscribed to Marcus's YT channel and watched a few of his videos and have learnt a lot in a very short while. Many thanks for bringing this channel to your subscribers attention.
No problem at all George. I love to do it. Best of luck to you and I will be making a bunch of videos on my progress.
@@GolfTestDummy Looking forward to them.
I'm trying Marcus' method now, 1 week into it. I have regained lost yardage in all my clubs, as much as 10 yards. I takes a lot of work to change over from a "body" swing to an "arms and hands" swing. I hit balls on the range three times and I have played two rounds with this method and hit some really good shots. The bad shots come in my driver, hitting low duck hooks. It is not the fault of the method, it is the fault of years of using too much body rotation in the down swing. Since I am having success with this method, I will continue to work to slow my body rotation down and hopefully this will decrease the misses to the left (right handed golfer).
Loving this Chad! Found Marcus couple weeks ago and immediately started following him. I was super intrigued about his methods..glad you’re on board with this because I think it’s a good swing as well. See you in the next one!
Thanks SI! More coming. I learn a little more each day, so should have some insights.
Started following Marcus a few weeks ago. He has transformed my golf game. For the first time I feel like I have control of my swing. Great that you're giving him some props. I've followed you for some time now and love that you do what I basically do, try a lot of things. I think I'm done with that except for some refining. I'll still check your videos because I just like them!
Much appreciated Steve! I try to mix it up and do different videos, but RUclips hates variety with small channels for some reason. They want you in your lane. Thanks for the support.
Chad just found your channel via Marcus Edblad golf because a couple guys said they were sent there by you. I have been working on the Marcus Method for about a month now and I have found that if the lead shoulder tries to lead the downswing it starts rotating open too soon and then it is difficult to extend out to the right of the target line. So by keeping the lead shoulder quiet it allows for my arms and the club to extend to the right. Also there is a tendency in the beginning for the shaft to roll counter clockwise thru impact which will cause a hook. But if I lead with the heel of the club it keeps the toe up and prevents the hook. Hope these personal insights help your viewers.
Thanks Chris, and I know what you mean in both instances. For you, leading with the heel helps to get it right, but for me, I focus on getting the toe up and going toward the sky. Rather than letting it stay open or roll over.
Excellent. Arrived here via the link inMarcus's new posting.
Fantastic Andy. I'll keep em coming!
Great tutorial ! I see you use a baseball grip, do you have any instruction on that topic. I had a severe thumb injury and I have to use a baseball - hockey grip. I think that grip work well with that technique. Thanks. The baseball - hockey grip suits you very well.
I switched to the 10 finger grip well over a year ago during the single plane swing review I filmed. There's a video posted on my channel from then on my grip. I have pretty bad wrist and hand pains, and the change helped a bit.
Been watching Marcus videos and i have to say say you explain it better than he does . LOL . Your tips help .
Hi Chad….long time watcher first time commenting…….intensely watched ME’s method went out and practiced both sides of what he talked about, the interesting thing was I went out on the course and started bombing drives, nice soft draws, irons soft to a little hookey. Hit like never before…….then I really doubled down on practice ………lol lost the whole thing!!!??! Love this game called golf. Just have go back to basics and keep at it. Appreciate you taking the bullets for us Chad.
Haha, thanks, Wayne. I'm sorry to hear that, though. I think what you just summarized is a HUGELY common thing with golfers across all methods. I've experienced it many times. My theory is that we find something, it's fairly simple, it works for a time, and then, we try to oversimplify it AND, we have also created a new normal. Our frame of reference changes because now we're familiar with the "new stuff". It's a vicious cycle.
Marcus sent me over :-). I have been a fan of his method for a long time as I got tired of all the others and not getting better !
Welcome Peter! I have always gravitated toward and highlighted unconventional teachers that have real merit, and I try to help expose more people to them.
I have been using Marcus method for about 9 months. My handicap is down from a 13 to a 9 and have shot the lowest round of my life, a 75.
That sounds like a pretty good success story to me!
I started Marcus way a month ago, I play from the back tees 2 times in a row, this thing works for me, just let it happen, the idea that the body aims to one place and the club swing out, trip my brain out big time, as it’s not what we have been though, but after 3 weeks of none stop, it makes sense , works for me, 75 from the back tees on a par 72, I take it, but just like every golf change, make sure you work on this while keeping what you got, you know how fast you can screw up your golf swing, taste it out on real time if it works great, I still working on it, but I still have my back up, which feels not natural but it works
That's great Maximo! And I agree, you have to be diligent and keep at it until it locks in as habit.
nice hits. the outward swing combined with a turn and wham, tight draw.
Got here from Marcus Edblad video (my Swedish golf coach). He is the best. Makes it look so easy. Don't slice anymore. Driver is hardest to master. After years of missing right swinging out there takes some guts to trust it coming back. So have used initially to straighten drives and slowly aiming further right. Irons I tend to over draw so keeping toe up is big focus.
Welcome Paul! "Toe up" is my swing thought with this method. Works wonders. Marcus is awesome.
keys for me: for irons ball is center or just back of center (helps in to out)...takeaway rhand face closed....swing exaggersted in to out..throw the club smooth snd loose
Sounds like a pretty good recipe, and I think more throw than push for myself, also.
key dont throw from top...let club drop to hip leve and lrhand keep face closed ..then let it release in to out....with right
Nice to se you found Marcus ! Realy great guy.
Agreed. Class act and fantastic coaching.
New sub,Great job!
Marcus sent me.
The magic I found in his videos was the hand movement Episode. I was definitely a lag dragger and a wrist rotator, that definitely caused my snap hook.
Find the video that explains how the wrist should move, According to him. This was the switch that lit the bulb. Once I got my hands moving in the right direction I'm able to just drop that iron without worrying about my body turning as much as I used to,Effortless distance.
This type of hand movement also helped with my driver. Now I'm just learning better ball positions and tee heights.
That hand movement will definitely help with that forward release you were mentioning.
Take care everyone! 🙋♂️
Thanks Robby! I've watched that one and a ton of others, and I agree, it's great stuff. Plenty more coming.
@@GolfTestDummy Looking forward to watching more of your content. Just a bit busy at the moment. Have a great day
Hi Chad, I just found this video on Marcus Edblad which I found excellent. I’m going to sign up with Marcus to see how I get along. Would you recommend this system for a 78 year old golfer? Thank you.
Marcus makes a pretty good argument. He says that even when he's older and can't walk as well, he'll still be able to use his hands. It's a fair point. Marcus is a good guy and we talk often.
I have taken there lessons with Marcus and I must say that the development for me have been really good and I always think about the routines when hitting the ball. For me, extremely worth while investing in the lessons from him.
From what I've seen, he has a fantastic way of presenting the lessons and the lessons themselves are great.
New sub here and l just recently sub to Marcus wow that guy can hit it a mile effortlessly. l am trying his push method and it also helps me understand the mistakes l have in my current swing itself l am trying to switch between the two now that l have a better understanding of the difference between a pull swing, hit (trail arm) and a push swing (trail arm) that Marcu is teaching. Just have to ingrain it so it becomes automatic.
Marcus and I talk often. He's a fantastic guy and a great coach.
Once you got the release point locked in each shot was the same, like JV teaching to block the big hook into the baby draw. Different methods that get the same result, good stuff Chad.
And many people don’t wanna play a draw cuz they’re so afraid of the duck hook.
Jim I was JUST experimenting a couple hours ago, and found a striking similarity between JV and this, but in polar opposite ways, creating the same results..... stay tuned.
@@GolfTestDummy Hey Chad, I just hit a big bucket of balls playing around with Marcus method, it’s gonna take time to go from a left sided controlled swing to this method. Marcus has a great video about the shoulders rotating on the plane where the ball is, it made me realize that most traditional teaching tells you to rotate your hips around you, us high handicappers have a tough time rotating our hips one way and our shoulders another. His method has no focus on the lower body, just the correct shoulder movement and not pulling the left hand through where the right hand can’t catch up and square the club face.
Marcus is the only teacher I’ve seen who tells to take swings doing it the wrong way so you can feel the difference from the correct way.
Jim let me just say that you have a video coming that is almost custom for you, haha. I was experimenting, going back and forth from JV to Marcus. I was lacing shots with both. I'll be making that video at some point.
Marcus a fan of yours like us. Cool. I'd love to hit the 200 yard 6iron like you just did. Working on it.
Keep grinding Geronimo!
he is one of the few instructors I will watch on Yt.... he is the best male and I believe Lily golf is the best female instructor
Well you went and did it. Thought he might be a little fringe for you. I have watched many of his videos and so far have not tried to implement what he is promoting, though I have no doubt I will. My driver is terrible right now and I am grasping at straws for some consistency and some length. This guy promises both. I just want so much to be better. Thanks again for what you do, I am gonna look sweet in one of those polo's.
Haha, thanks PJ! The first little while, the driver wasn't working, but once a few pieces tripped for me, boom. I've added considerable distance.... I'll be sharing all of this stuff in coming videos, so stay tuned. And the site will HOPEFULLY be up in early to mid October. Working on all the legal crap.
Now I am struggling with him being too fringe for me. Can this really lead to consistent playable power on the course??????
By "too fringe", do you mean that his swing model is too far off the beaten path? Or that he himself has a fringe personality? I haven't been able to try this on course yet, and it's early days, but I dont have any reason to doubt that it will carry over onto the course. The coming weeks will tell.
@@GolfTestDummy I meant too fringe in that it is far from the "NORM". Every time I get on the range to work this, I resort back to trying the same stuff. I just gotta commit to this or to something!
I know exactly what you mean, and there are millions of golfers who can identify with what you're saying.
Thanks for turning me onto Marcus. Circle of speed
The guy is amazing.
Agreed. And he has a manly golf bag.
Marcus sent me. His instruction has dramatically improved my golf game.
Seems like there are a lot of people that can say the same thing. Love it.
Marcus is the man with the plan. So glad you’re featuring him. New sub here.
Much appreciated WeR! I can't wait to see where the coming weeks and months take me with this. Love his teaching.
Marcus's 'trail arm/ early relese' method has straighten up my slicing/fade drives...no doubt about it.
Fantastic. I'll bet there are quite a few people that he's helped over the years with the same results.
Careful mate, you're going to get that open top car ride in dallas claiming that the back swing will naturally change to fit your intention. You any idea the amount of money invested in hitting position 2 3 and 4 in the back swing, let alone "trigger" movements to start the down swing 😉😂
Hahahaha. Love this comment.
Great video as always mate. Love hitting a draw as a stock shot.
Thanks D! More coming, but I have a projector that I've gotta do a review on next, then I'll come back to this.
@@GolfTestDummy Awesome mate, keen to see that video
Test Dummy, its good that you add to what Marcus teaches with a different point of view !!!! like focusing on the trail arm and hand what it is supposed to do after impact
So glad that you pointed that out, because that's really the value of the review. It's not helpful for me to just parrot what someone else already says. You have to offer something beyond that. Thank you.
Hi, Chad, I found Marcus in recent month and did try his methods such as trail hand push over lead hand, the feeling is special. One question about your setup, it seems you still use single plane swing foundation, am I right? Thanks.
That's great to hear Tao, but no, I'm not trying to use the single plane setup, but it could be old habits creeping in.
@@GolfTestDummy It looks like your elbows are between Moe's and conventional.
How far out are you thinking of throwing out the clubhead, when you say corner are you referencing the corner of your screen ? Im struggling a bit with it, don't think im releasing it properly tbh ? Think i need some different feels
When I was doing this, throwing it to the corner of my screen was my thought, and getting the toe of the club straight up when I had the shaft parallel to the ground on the follow through.
@@GolfTestDummy thank you for the reply
Marcus sent me enjoyed it keep up the good work!
Thanks Louis! Plenty more coming so stay tuned.
I love these program reviews.
Thanks TT! More coming.
In trying this method with irons the shots come off as low baby draws or pull draws. What kind of ball flights did you experience and how what adjustments did you make to get the ball to draw with a decent launch ? Thanks
That could be as a result of ball position and/or a rolling of the hands. It's also possible that you're moving forward, as in transferring weight, during the swing. I've got a video coming out Monday that should offer some insight. I get high ball flights, and I think it's a result of my weight and the way I go about it.
Are you suggesting to maybe move the ball position back and keep my weight back longer ?.
Also “keeping the toe up” is elusive for me. Maybe you could demonstrate the toe up motion real slow in a video we could see how the motion of the toe up looks like. Again Thanks
I'm not sure where you ball position is now, but maybe. And starting with more weight on the trail foot and keeping it there, is one of the things that will be in Monday's video. Also, the toe up thing as well. The best way I can explain toe up is to either think about it matching your spine angle, or imagining that you're trying to hit the toe of the club on the bottom of a shelf or a table.
Absolutely love your videos your such a hart warming person mate keep up the videos your amazing and incredible 💜💜💜
Very much appreciated Tom, and I'll try to keep producing to that end.
I've been following Marcus for a couple of weeks. Awesome
Smart man.
Wow! You carried that 6 iron 194 yards. Is that how far you carry your regular swing's 6 iron?
No, that was a big one, haha. I'll say this much; I have some gapping issues, so that 6 might be closer to a 5. I have new forged irons coming so we will see what happens.
I have 3 bad discs in my spine, with Marcus's swing I can actually hit it farther now than before my injury!
The fact that he tosses out a lot of myths, and has alternatives to conventionally accepted "must do's", is awesome, and eliminates a lot of the pains and injuries.
Found Marcus’s channel months ago I can hit driver with his method but struggling with irons⛳️⛳️
Hopefully I can provide some insight on that in the coming weeks as I progress through it
He's got a great video explaining the difference between driver and irons, slightly different release patterns, once i found that, it clicked
Marcus is the best.
Will definitely check him out. Does he advocate that narrow of a stance? No shade, just curious.
From what I've seen, I'm not really sure that he has a steadfast setup that MUST be. He does advocate an open setup, and a ball position that's not way forward. In my eye, he also favors a trail leg weight majority, and staying there until after the shot has left.
@@GolfTestDummy I guess as long as one is able to make theswing and stay balanced, it's all good. Cool, thanks. Keep up the good work sir!!!
I’ve long fought hitting a fade as my go to shot but there’s something about a draw that’s just powerful and freeing! Do I see a bombtech driver in your bag??
Haha, yep. I'm doing a test with the driver and 3 wood to see what kind of performance I get.
Awesome! Look forward to your thoughts on that as well. I’ve not played their woods but I’ve used an iron of theirs and it was surprisingly good
I sought out the 2nd generation specifically. A friend of mine said it was the best driver he ever owned.
I've played a few rounds in the low 80's with Marcus Swing. It's hands down the easiest swing on your body, yet hits the farthest. Short game is very easy when you let right hand lead the action. The driver is the only club I have problems with. Will pop up some drives until you get used to it
With driver, I found that I had to play the ball back in my stance a good bit more than my normal.
@@GolfTestDummy Good tip, will try it.
@@GolfTestDummy Marcus says play driver with ball middle of stance, although for consistent results i tee it a bit lower than Marcus does
@@GolfTestDummy Yes, Marcus talks about that. In fact, he appears to play the ball back with all his clubs.
Need to slow down and hit out more on the driver to avoid the hook. It works for me if I relax, and focus on pushing the club from my right elbow.
Seems like I’ve tried every new swing concept that comes along … guess I’ll give this one a try as well. Fingers crossed that this is the answer.
75 years old … I’m tired, ha.
Haha, I can relate George. I don't know if I'll ever be ever to morph the channel into something that does t involve blowing up my swing constantly.
So i just checked out his channel but im confused...how are you learning anything from him with him not speaking english? Does he have an english channel im missing or something?
I’ve seen this dude pop up on my feed but had no idea of his philosophy only watching one video.
I’ll have to check his driver vids as others mentioned as I’ve noticed I’ve lost some distance after working on my accuracy.
Watch a bunch of his vids and the whole picture will take shape.
@@GolfTestDummy you sent me down the same rabbit hole, watched about 20 of his videos in a row last night.
Question: have you kept a log regarding yardages from all of the different methods you have tried? It seems like this new method is the longest of all, I remember your 6 iron only going 180 at one point.
Confirmed. Last night actually, I was longer with irons and I FINALLY turned a corner with driver. This is the longest.
Your follow through and finish is much like Steve Elkington’s
..these ideas are not conventional but they do have a lot in common with Steve Elkington’s ideas as well as many of the old timers like Mike Austin.
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Played 9 holes today using Marcus's swing theory. Some good, some bad but it will happen. Needs more practice.
Wish Marcus well…He’s undergoing treatment for throat problems…
Marcus rocks
Yes sir, I agree.
I’m a lefty too but he says on one of his videos that he is righty playing lefty. What a letdown. 😂
I'm not 100 percent sure that wasn't a tongue in cheek comment, but I could be wrong.
In to out is a band-aid
That makes me want to know more. Can you explain a bit?
@@GolfTestDummy hi mate remember I've told you you have to listen to what Colin McCarthy golf has to say and it all makes sense
I love Marcus Edblad's channel. Ex hockey player who can hit it a mile.
Yep, and super simple methodology that can help a ton of people.
I personally enjoy my koolaid flavor inbarly . your segment here reminds me of something Trevino said you can talk to a fade . not knocking Marcus but you better hit a draw if your going to win a long drive contest. And works well dipsy doodle . with wind blowing from left. Swinging out with face closed to path purfibly ball back a bit. There's a fellow trying to get hit on this channel you might as well check out its a little foggy with the red print yet but being from the south you have to slow it down a bit. He's got a fairly good shot of hogans swing and things to activate. The Bobby Locke pitching is pretty good. It's in the hands that we could debate later.
My bad utube (dash1full)
Yep, you can talk to a fade, but a hook won't listen was the quote. I've always hit a draw naturally.
Ya my draw controll sucks. My brain closes the face. Just seems like more timing involved. Probably does suit your swing . I'm a pounder swing style so there is some thing to be said about the differents between hitting and swinging . Ya but check the feller out he's capital DASH1ful . if that don't work I'll dig a little deeper. I'm not that computer calculus friendly right now.
Hi i hear about you by marcus Edblad
Welcome aboard Sebastian!
I will analyze Marcus's videos . I never agree 100% with anyone but I've come to the conclusion that we can learn something from everyone. I will tell Marcus that you have a man crush on him. That is one bad azz cool friggen shirt Chad.
Thanks
Haha, thanks Mike. And I have to agree that 100 percent is rarely, if not never, going to work for everyone. I think Marcus has trail side dominance, with weight back on trail leg, and rotating or pivoting on the back leg. Hand speed and hands being the focus, has the body facilitating movements to allow the hands to lead. Body supports the movement of the hands.
@@GolfTestDummy First video was good in regards to training the brain to find the preferred low point. He failed to mention that it must be from a shallow angle of attack. Most will come over the top and still accomplish that task. This guy appears to have a solid biomechanical swing and if anyone says it is natural and not trained they are lying. This guy has hit many golfballs and it wouldn't surprise me if he was coached. I need to look at his swing closer but I will bet he has a weak grip due to the fact that he looked flippy thru impact. Sounded like very solid contact however he might have the exceptional ability to square the clubface thru impact. This can only be achieved by hitting many golfballs everyday. The action and sequence of the feet , knees and pelvis cannot be ignored and must be trained. He seems like a cool guy but the judge is still out.
He talks about low point in several videos, and he played a lot of hockey. He's the pro at his club.
@@mslu62 whats his Swing got to do with his coaching qualities?
@@swardmusicgpt ? I made no reference as to his coaching qualities. I merely stated that I'm on the fence.
CL?
Haha, way ahead of you Steve! That comparison is coming very soon.
@@GolfTestDummy I thought the same that Marcus had some similarity to Channel Lock / JV swing. He looks like a powerfully built bloke that worked out this stuff by trial and error. Having maximum release before impact makes sense to me, rather than after contact. I don't always get it right with Driver, but when I do they fly further. So far, if the course is wide open and a slight block is OK I try the ME swing. If not, I try the Eureka swing for a slight draw but in play.
Was about to ask the same question..
Yo Steve.
As soon as I heard Chad say swing out to the right, my ears perked up. Now start moving the ball back in your stance and keep swinging out to the right, and you are in Channel Lock City my brother. Sorry, but I'm Locked in! 😎
@@pigaman1
Locked into Channel Lock is a plus
Lock and load 😊⛳️👍
(Adding this: I'd compare him to *Malaska golf,* i.e. lots of common sense and good advice - and I try to find the best advices that works for me, that I can use).
I actually think he (Edblad, just as Malaska too) has one of the best golf channels in the world (with so many good helpful advices in almost every video, often small key things that makes you think or realize something about golf swings, and like he himself says, there are many different ways of doing the golf swing). And I have looked at many golf channels. But there are some other very good golf channels too out there. But Edblad is among the top 5 educational golf channels out there, in my opinion.
However, the channel is in Swedish (that I speak too) but I don't think there are any English translations to the videos? But like I said, it's various small key things, that he usually helps to bring understanding and insights about, and which you can realize. So I don't understand how English speaking people will be able to really enjoy all the gold that is on his channel, or are there English translations available to all his many great, and often short videos, addressing various topics?
He has an English speaking channel now, which is fantastic, and I really wanted to try and help expose more golfers to him. This stuff can help so many people find better golf. Awesome stuff.
Marcus sent me!
Welcome aboard Dirk!
Chad, I noticed that when you were setting up your feet were angled in an open to the target position. Meaning your lead (left) foot was farther back than your right foot. This position is the classic fade setup. For a draw, it would be easier if your lead foot was farther forward than your right, I.e., closed to target. This was you’re sure to swing out to the right for the draw. Also your club face also needs to be slight right of target. In other words, club face slightly right of target and path of swing a little farther right of club face.
I always thought the same, but Marcus teaches an open setup. I've tried both and honestly, I get better results setting open like he says.
I’ve always thought the same too.. open stance has been getting way better results. It seems with that open stance you can swing way more to right field and it keeps that club face close to the path better.
Marcus sent me...hahaha
Thanks for showing up! I'll be putting up a bunch of videos on this review.
Checking out Marcis E
Worth it!
Marcus's swing is very unconventional . He does things that are very unique. The lowerbody pivot is full and text book. Regardless of what he feels he starts the downswing with the lower body and gets a weight shift. What you see in video is actually a rebound off the lead foot from pushing .He does things in his golfswing that would make Moe Norman say "WTF" ? Instead of starting 2 feet behind the ball at address he moves swing center up and away until his clubhead hovers 4 inches above the ball. Then what he does with the hands and arms throughout the swing is even more unique. His swing is very much in to out which explains his ball position. You have to admire the guy for such a unique and powerful swing . If not well that's just stupid. LOL
Haha, I noticed some of those things as well. He mentioned in one video that move up to start was a habit. I have a video coming out today with some of the things that helped me, and it's full of "unconventional", and I'm sure there will be no shortage of people lined up to call me a moron. That's cool. It'll be like family holiday dinners!
Well there's a lot of slight misunderstanding here in terms of what you he's doing in order to achieve his draw. I'll go on record as saying that I don't think that it's a particularly good swing but it works and is a lot better than many swings that are out there.
His swing is quite Shane Lowry-like in the takeaway and the overall motion also has similarities. What you are doing is very different from what he is doing especially in the takeaway. However trying to extend out to right field later in your video got you into a slightly better copy of what he is doing. You do tend to swing out to the right somewhat naturally anyway and then you normally sort of pull down into the ball to hit it straight. It is noteworthy that Shane Lowry both is known for a bent lead arm and predominantly (almost exclusively) hits a draw.
So if you really want to have his takeaway which is essential to what he is doing you need to bend your lead arm early and get the lead arm going up earlier while simutaneoulsy pulling the trail elbow back enough to start flipping the club up and around and pretty much right up and over and line with the lead shoulder and lead arm. This move allows a lot of quick early agressive wrist cocking while "flipping" the club head up and over and behind the lead shoulder. By the way, the bending of the lead arm in the early takeaway is very helpful in getting the arm and club moving up quickly and in flipping it around and behind the lead shoulder.
This is why he can swing from the inside so much; because the club is aggressively cocked over the lead arm and as soon as he starts the lead shoulder down and inside out the club naturally and invariably follows it and then one can just control the release of the torso to release through and square the club from the inside. It is worth noting that when you swing like this, the motion of the upper lead arm is on a very tight arc (there is very little arm extension and reaching with the arms in this back swing) and thus if you watch him you can see that his lead upper arm moves up very quickly and just folds right under and across his chin.
His takeaway arm motion is the reason he is able to swing inside out and maintain his hip distance from the ball through impact because that arm motion allows him to swing out to the ball. You are still moving closer to the ball because your arm motion does not resemble his and is still a version of your previous arm motion. Thus you are more tending to move the center line of your torso out towards the target line in order to try and replicate his draw motion rather than just moving the club out.
If you could manage to replicate his actual arm motion it might help you to learn to swing down on plane from your across the line position at the top. If you want any further information to help you understand this, I'll be glad to offer you more input. Cheers.
You took the long way around to tell me my swing is no good again. That I think I'm doing something, but I'm not, lol. I'm not trying to make my swing look like his. I'm trying to do what he says, which is an intention to swing across the line, with trail arm dominance, right? That's really the only prerequisite. Now when I get into a groove, and I've been swinging a bit, I can feel a bump with my body to let the arms start moving back, and the club feels like it lifts quickly with the bending of my trail arm. From there, my feel is to extend quickly down and let the club whoosh out and forward, with the toe up, leading the way to the sky on the other side.
@@GolfTestDummy Well, I am speaking with the goal of getting you on plane and improving your technique as I have been all along. The way that he takes the club back puts the club across the line AND behind his turn down so he can swing OUT to the ball and keep his hips a fairly consistent distance from the ball. This is why he has the ball so far back because he can only swing out that much in the early downswing.
Also this method will work for him with any club even one with a longerr shaft where he has to swing OUT but with a flatter plane. You can manage this with a 7-iron or so but I doubt that you will manage it very easily with a 3-wood or driver. As I have mentioned before, that length of club (7-iron) gives you the best chance of swinging on plane with your particular technique but it will be harder with a longer shaft and very hard with a 3-wood because of the precision of the angle of attack required.
It is not merely trail arm dominance that is required; it is trail arm dominance with the shaft releasing on plane from far enough from the ball in order to release the toe of the club. In order to do that consistently through the bag, it will be necessary to be able to start down on plane and swing out to the ball with hips a fairly consistent distance from the ball and to do that using something like his method you need a takeaway like his. The real acid test of what he is doing is that he can produce a solid draw with his fairway woods. This is because he has, as I have mentioned to you quite a bit, width in front of his body in his takeaway. Because he is emphasizing the rear portion of the swing, he HAS to get the club up fast and inside in order to have width on the way down and be able to swing out to and through the ball with his arms so it's just another version of the same thing that I have been talking to you about in terms of width being what is required.
If you try a driver and check the butt end of the club for plane while swinging OUT at the ball that is somewhat back in your stance like he does, you will find that the only way to swing on plane is to take the club away something like he does. If you swing back the way that you are, you will start down way off plane. In any case, you can try what you like but I am just trying to tell it like it is and ultimately help. Cheers.
@@GolfTestDummy By the way, I just want to be clear that I would never say that your swing is no good both because that is mean and because it's just not true at all. Your swing has a lot of excellent qualities and many of them have continued to get better as I've watched you so I'm sorry if anything that I've said has given you that impression.
Basically you are pretty darn close to having an excellent swing but are just held back by a few details. In fact, I think that the whole problem could largely be corrected by improving the relationship between the motion of your chest and your upper lead arm. In the best swings. the upper lead arm is constantly reflecting the changes in the shoulder turn as the lead moves down, around, etc. and the wrist cock works in accordance with those changes so that the lead arm becomes almost a direct reflection of the way that the lead shouder moves. This in turn puts the club shaft in position to be pulled down on plane.
Your early takeaway motions tend to be out of synch with your shoulder motion and thus the club has to be somewhat dragged back into a reasonable striking position. You were doing a somewhat better version of that motion in your demonstration swings (like at 5:09) but perhaps need to do that and keep your chest down a bit more an get the club head moving up a little faster. When you actually swung, it was much more like your usual takeaway so I think that you just would need to get used to a takeaway that feels really different in order to fully fix the problem. Cheers.
@@GolfTestDummy I also realized that when I said that it's "not a particularly good swing" that it could have sounded like I was talking about your swing. In fact, I was talking about Marcus' swing because I don't like the model of swing that it represents.
Interestingly enough, I discovered that exact swing model when I was trying to understand exactly how the downswing works. I mean EXACTLY the same. It taught me a lot about how the club drops into the slot in the downswing and basically a more standard swing just moves a set of similar positions more towards the lead side of the stance but the mechanics of transitioning and dropping the club into the slot remain virtually the same however things end up looking quite different.
I ruled it out as a potential candidate for a swing that I would promote because I felt that swinging out at the ball when it's back in the stance did not seem like a method with enough flexibility to accomodate different shots. However , it did occur to me that many individuals might find it easier to achieve a solid hit using such an approach. So it was interesting to find out about Marcus.
If you understood that to mean your swing, I am sorry that I wasn't clearer in my comment. Cheers.
Please send positive thoughts to our friend Marcus whom have health problem at this time.( March 2024)
The first driver shot i hit after watching Marcus was a draw, i first time ever!
Haha, fantastic, right? Very simple, nothing complex to remember, and no need to completely change the way your body works.
Nope!
been following that dude for 3 months. AFTER STUDYING THE GOLF SWING AND PRACTICING AT NAUSEAUM ......... MARCUS. confirmed all my suspicions that what I was doing was RIGHT ALL THE TIME .... THE POWER AND SWING IS (((((((((((. BEFORE. ))))))). NOT ((((((( AFTER THE BALL )))))))
Love it! Great to hear when your theories are proven and confirmed.
Marcus sent me!
Welcome John!