Why is macOS 11 Big Sur (Beta) Ugly? - Krazy Ken's Tech Misadventures

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  • macOS 11 Big Sur is a huge release from Apple. But… why is it ugly? It has an all-new user interface, but since it's in beta, there's a couple issues. Let's take a look. Remember, this is the first BETA of this system. To see the public release (11.0.1) in action, check out this episode: • macOS Big Sur Tour, Ti...
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  • @dgames1355
    @dgames1355 4 года назад +2326

    That battery icon literally looks like it’s from one of those crappy “battery saving” apps

    • @allan.n.7227
      @allan.n.7227 4 года назад +32

      Spot on 😁😄

    • @OscatA
      @OscatA 4 года назад +36

      The battery icon looks Apple-like to me, but the color scheme and gradients of the battery icon look...um...bad.

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 4 года назад +8

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

    • @oofnack
      @oofnack 4 года назад +5

      why did i put that battery saveing app on my dads phone once in like 2015

    • @MenacingPerson
      @MenacingPerson 4 года назад +1

      it's like a spicy pillow

  •  4 года назад +983

    These icons feel like the "realistic" 3D renders of The Simpsons characters.

    • @therottenlemon5048
      @therottenlemon5048 4 года назад +18

      thats the best way ive seen this described as

    • @JakeyCroft
      @JakeyCroft 4 года назад +4

      True 😂👌🏽

    • @tHeplAyiER
      @tHeplAyiER 4 года назад +3

      This sums it up pretty nicely xD

    • @xcruxifiedx3477
      @xcruxifiedx3477 4 года назад +2

      that describes it perfectly 😂

    • @coffeearch2906
      @coffeearch2906 4 года назад +1

      Or pacman, or LEGO...that was Horrendous.

  • @ashleybyram9095
    @ashleybyram9095 4 года назад +1154

    The battery looks like when your charging a dead 2009 android phone

    • @gao_yuan
      @gao_yuan 4 года назад +15

      Actually, 1999.

    • @NonsensicalSpudz
      @NonsensicalSpudz 4 года назад +36

      @@gao_yuan android didn't exist 1999, neither did battery icons on that level of style

    • @annaaffkhan
      @annaaffkhan 4 года назад +7

      @@NonsensicalSpudz cheeel kaarl cheel cheel!

    • @ccanthony887
      @ccanthony887 4 года назад +6

      NonsensicalVids thanks smartass

    • @SananeNapcanAmq
      @SananeNapcanAmq 4 года назад +3

      @@NonsensicalSpudz imagine taking everything seriously LMAO

  • @LunarDelta
    @LunarDelta 4 года назад +102

    The "100%" being so badly off-center bugs the crap out of me.

    • @no89lan3
      @no89lan3 4 года назад +1

      It's just gross

  • @xeijix
    @xeijix 4 года назад +355

    It's like they've given fresh-outa-classical-artschool-interns-who-played-around-with-illustrator-for-2hours the responsibility to redesign all of the icons

    • @_danu
      @_danu 4 года назад +21

      No joke its bassicly animoji edition of icon or a paint 3d edition

    • @FascistTrex
      @FascistTrex 4 года назад +6

      Maybe it's the same guy that made the adobe redesign

    • @haze2427
      @haze2427 4 года назад

      And the entire UI also

    • @user-ve7rz3pm3h
      @user-ve7rz3pm3h 4 года назад +1

      Apple isn't exactly one to abide by social norms...
      In business, youre always told that market research is vital to a businesses success and yet, when steve jobs was asked if he wanted to do it, he replied ''no because our customers don't know what they want until we've shown them."

    • @axethepenguin
      @axethepenguin 4 года назад

      @@_danu paint 3d looks even better than this

  • @rivvvers
    @rivvvers 4 года назад +414

    I feel like I’m living in an alternative reality as of late

    • @adamm.8498
      @adamm.8498 4 года назад +30

      It's like a bad nightmare

    • @TheDanielLivingston
      @TheDanielLivingston 4 года назад +24

      What if we are? What if we’re in some “quantum branch” of reality, where the RNG is cranked up way too high

    • @mereobserver1727
      @mereobserver1727 4 года назад +19

      Turn on the news, and see Brave New World / 1984 instead. Switch over to WWDC, expecting some relief - but get a comic book instead.

    • @alierengam1749
      @alierengam1749 4 года назад +1

      ok

    • @Dettankarmen
      @Dettankarmen 4 года назад +1

      This year just gets better and better

  • @Xeyph
    @Xeyph 4 года назад +86

    You know they really messed up the icons when even Microsoft has released better icons recently.

    • @illford6921
      @illford6921 3 года назад +3

      The Microsoft icons are iconic, how dare you diss the Windows XP icons

    • @aetimes2
      @aetimes2 3 года назад +1

      @@illford6921 i don't think you know what he meant... ruclips.net/video/wYmTkgqbrDM/видео.html

    • @MCAlexisYT
      @MCAlexisYT Год назад +1

      @@illford6921 He’s only talking about Windows 11’s icons and nothing else

  • @random_rosa
    @random_rosa 4 года назад +93

    these icons remind me of that meme with the cat, “graphic design is my passion”

    • @kg790
      @kg790 4 года назад +2

      Just did a search for that phrase and now I'm crying
      knowyourmeme.com/memes/graphic-design-is-my-passion

    • @Ben-rz9cf
      @Ben-rz9cf 3 года назад +2

      as an actual designer it brings me joy to see such terribleness captured so perfectly.
      in one typography class back in college we would actually submit assignments using comic sans as a joke

    • @PatchworkRose567
      @PatchworkRose567 3 года назад +1

      As a graphic communications student, I just want to go in and fix the icons as it feels like I’m staring at an unfinished project with tons of placeholders of things that need to be refined and uniform with the rest of the design. There are things in some of the icons that are considered wrong when it comes to designing

  • @coneypylon
    @coneypylon 4 года назад +503

    The icons look like a bootleg version of MacOS

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 4 года назад +19

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

    • @FoxBlocksHere
      @FoxBlocksHere 4 года назад +7

      "bootleg version of MacOS"
      laughs in Red Star OS

    • @Rashaexe
      @Rashaexe 4 года назад +1

      Like they tried to port iOS to the Mac

    • @sxuan8419
      @sxuan8419 4 года назад +1

      Yep. When I watched the keynote being showed, I thought even the circle icons are much better than the squircle ones on the desktop machines. The new icons are hilarious about shape and design detail. I still hope Apple will keep the old design of icons or make them just circular.

    • @asfrflagcommunity966
      @asfrflagcommunity966 4 года назад

      ItzMichaelPhillips it’s *laughs in Korean*

  • @padraigrab08
    @padraigrab08 4 года назад +1398

    When the macOS battery icon looks like one from a kid fake phone. Only thing it needs now is a smiley face

    • @Curios_Cat
      @Curios_Cat 4 года назад +7

      Yes! Exactly what I was saying

    • @Oney105
      @Oney105 4 года назад +7

      It gives me Subway Surfers Vibes

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 4 года назад +1

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

    • @realandychen
      @realandychen 4 года назад +1

      You know, I think that Tim Apple is trying to copy Steve Jobs, cause Steve was the one who did the whole "freindly" interface language, but I guess it works? maybe?

    • @Executivebird
      @Executivebird 4 года назад

      Pod lol I was thinking that

  • @DavidsLifeYT
    @DavidsLifeYT 4 года назад +85

    the icons and stuff makes it look like a children’s toy, i’ll be keeping Catalina for now

    • @KSA21Geladettor
      @KSA21Geladettor 4 года назад +7

      David’s Tech Talk me too unless they keep the icons normal like before

    • @happysmash27
      @happysmash27 4 года назад +9

      For me, it strongly reminds me of children's toys and that blue Windows XP theme. I'm surprised there aren't more people commenting that.

    • @DavidsLifeYT
      @DavidsLifeYT 4 года назад +1

      happysmash27 i would rather use windows xp tbh lol

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu 4 года назад

      Well duh, it's a beta version not a final one.

    • @kingdededelicious
      @kingdededelicious 3 года назад +5

      I'm still rocking Mojave to this day

  • @benbaert2166
    @benbaert2166 4 года назад +295

    The new version of MacOS is like the Chinese ripoff of MacOS.

    • @omarsoub_._
      @omarsoub_._ 4 года назад +6

      without the engrish

    • @vampiro4236
      @vampiro4236 3 года назад +2

      @Rishab Tirupathi The software is not designed in China.

    • @Ben-rz9cf
      @Ben-rz9cf 3 года назад +4

      Actually considering that xiaomi and huawei have been stealing from apple's design language for years and they've actually done it pretty well (take MIUI 12 for example which is beautiful) the new version of MacOS looks WORSE than ACTUAL chinese ripoffs of apple. Which is frankly just sad.

    • @tenminutetokyo2643
      @tenminutetokyo2643 3 года назад

      Ben Baert Or a crappy version of Linux.

    • @PEK-97
      @PEK-97 3 года назад +1

      To your surprise (or not?) there is a Chinese linux distro that mimicks MacOS: www.deepin.org/en/ Note the most recent version with redesigned icons actually came out BEFORE Big Sur was even revealed 🤔 So MacOS is copying their Chinese ripoff now?

  • @para_dies8071
    @para_dies8071 4 года назад +385

    This version of macOS feels a bit too cartoony, I always liked the "serious" or professional look old macOS versions had idk its a bit hard to explain

    • @kalijasin
      @kalijasin 4 года назад +37

      “Cartoony” is a good word for this Os.

    • @2by3
      @2by3 4 года назад +12

      Haha, I was calling it childish, like more your cartoony way.

    • @onometre
      @onometre 4 года назад +19

      It's windows xp all over again

    • @garageghost6038
      @garageghost6038 4 года назад +39

      I think the problem is that it looks too much like iOS. It looks too much like a touch screen interface and we all know how horrible those are to use with a mouse (I'm looking at you windows 8)
      Edit: typo

    • @jj-qq8dg
      @jj-qq8dg 4 года назад +19

      Garage Ghost I agree. I’ve been using macOS as a workstation, and not a “portable” device. I loved that it looked professional and felt that it’s better off as an actual laptop, rather than a mixup between ipad & macbook.

  • @feratul9173
    @feratul9173 4 года назад +223

    new apple icon designer : "Ah, yes. Design is my passion. I am a professional WordArt designer, shade is my soul."

    • @alus992
      @alus992 4 года назад +20

      Apple is like trying to compete with Microsoft for most inconsistent design title for their OS.
      I would never thought that Apple could make something so inconsistent and jarring to look at

    • @eliusamarus
      @eliusamarus 4 года назад

      Hahahahahhahahaha. Absolutely!

  • @TastyGuava
    @TastyGuava 4 года назад +35

    I feel like they could’ve just directly copied iOS icons

  • @Scout6O9
    @Scout6O9 4 года назад +68

    As a graphic designer i almost died from laughing when i saw those app store corners and battery icon 😂😂😂
    I was like :
    *It's so ugly ...I love it!*

  • @paincreatesfame
    @paincreatesfame 4 года назад +323

    The whole “two things touching right on the edge” is actually something my graphic design teachers always told me to avoid - they always would call it “kissing” because they’re just barely brushing each other like a light kiss. And that’s a no-go. Either you go in or go home with the touching.

    • @pingozingo
      @pingozingo 4 года назад +26

      Did they also teach that excessive bevel and emboss effects looks tacky?

    • @paincreatesfame
      @paincreatesfame 4 года назад +9

      Paul Zach I can recall it being mentioned once or twice, maybe?

    • @ShaqarudenGames
      @ShaqarudenGames 4 года назад

      I don’t think it’s intentional. I would bet on it getting fixed whether we say anything or not.

    • @windowsfan95
      @windowsfan95 4 года назад +2

      Aimee Crawford My graphic design teachers said exactly the same thing, so I am wondering who they hired to design this.

    • @AngryApple
      @AngryApple 4 года назад

      Its propably not fully implemented yet, I think for now it just more of a asset Switch than a real tweaking for the new UI

  • @markschwartz9905
    @markschwartz9905 4 года назад +255

    The battery icon looks like a condom.. not digging this new overall look

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 4 года назад +6

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

    • @HaniiPuppy
      @HaniiPuppy 4 года назад +15

      I was thinking the nub looked more like a nipple.

    • @DanielVlogsAnything
      @DanielVlogsAnything 4 года назад

      HaniiPuppy I burst out laughing reading that comment! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @julianmurillo4678
      @julianmurillo4678 4 года назад +2

      @@jacobanderson9530 "I noticed the battery icon looks like a condom, could you change that please" -To Apple from the Feedback Assistant

    • @lucretius8050
      @lucretius8050 4 года назад +2

      So Big Sir would have been more fitting?

  • @jptaylor
    @jptaylor 3 года назад +14

    Amazing how people constantly need to “fix” things that aren’t broken. Humanity’s biggest flaw.

    • @tenminutetokyo2643
      @tenminutetokyo2643 3 года назад

      John Taylor Thanks India Inc. They also take over code written by others, paste their names in the source files, then claim they wrote it. These people have no design sense.

  • @CurveTheRain
    @CurveTheRain 4 года назад +32

    The icons look like the defaults from a Mac knockoff. Hideous.

  • @Narwaro
    @Narwaro 4 года назад +346

    Steve Jobs would already have absolutely slaughtered everybody on this design team. Its one thing to go for a different style, its another to make it imperfect in every detail, very un-Apple.

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 4 года назад +26

      First. It’s a BETA!
      Second. It’s a BETA
      It’s not imperfect in every little detail. It’s more that it’s not perfect in some details. That for sure will be fixed before the release.

    • @augustogalindo8687
      @augustogalindo8687 4 года назад +48

      Stefan Holmqvist even if it’s a beta, Steve and Johny wouldn’t have allowed those icons

    • @thevitruvianman9781
      @thevitruvianman9781 4 года назад +12

      @@augustogalindo8687 Its so easy to say that, quite frankly, we dont know.

    • @MultiRobotnik
      @MultiRobotnik 4 года назад +10

      If Steve Jobs didn’t turn to alternative medicines that costed him real treatment, he would still be alive.

    • @coregmr
      @coregmr 4 года назад +2

      A heatsink without a fan, The fuse is not the fuse. You can't tell me that's un-apple!

  • @user-lt2rw5nr9s
    @user-lt2rw5nr9s 4 года назад +108

    The battery looks like a cross between Microsoft Word Art and a Chinese knock off of an old iPhone.

    • @wordart_guian
      @wordart_guian 4 года назад +1

      Don't drag WordArt down with this. It has class.

  • @FranzSarmiento17
    @FranzSarmiento17 4 года назад +47

    These icons look like they were made by a rip-off company lmao

    • @tenminutetokyo2643
      @tenminutetokyo2643 3 года назад

      Franz Sarmiento Oh you mean India Inc outsourcing companies.

  • @thebassist122
    @thebassist122 4 года назад +27

    They should create a "classic" mode where macOS10 look and feel can be chosen instead of the new design. Would make everyone happy :)

    • @jonathanmcintosh9896
      @jonathanmcintosh9896 4 года назад +3

      that's probably what ppl wanted with iOS 7

    • @KSA21Geladettor
      @KSA21Geladettor 4 года назад +2

      You are great person

    • @superNova5837
      @superNova5837 4 года назад

      Same here with iOS imagine going from flat clean icons to iOS 6

    • @martian1232
      @martian1232 3 года назад +1

      Yesss, because now I’m not going to update this freakin’ os

    • @KazunaiOwO
      @KazunaiOwO 3 года назад

      that would add like 2 gb extra to the update which is huge especially if you dont use it

  • @AllUsernamesTaken
    @AllUsernamesTaken 4 года назад +98

    I already have nostalgia for the 10.10-10.15 interface and it hasn’t even been phased out yet lol

    • @axethepenguin
      @axethepenguin 4 года назад +1

      @Juliano Lyons-Cayson same although I prefer 10.13 to 10.10 interface in 10.14 they made the os fonts more like iOS and iPadOS, which personally hurt non retina macs alot and it's like they were preparing for big sur especially in Catalina although that just my opinion

  • @wtfcomments2585
    @wtfcomments2585 4 года назад +112

    "hey I'm pickle battery icon"

    • @usdevineni007
      @usdevineni007 4 года назад

      Funniest shit l’ve ever seen

    • @kf4294
      @kf4294 4 года назад

      Why is it ugly? Because Jonathan Ive is not there anymore.

  • @FF9F00
    @FF9F00 4 года назад +9

    "Two things are touching that are not supposed to be touching..." - best line ever!

  • @Beto_Beats
    @Beto_Beats 4 года назад +74

    The whole os seems less advanced and less professional.

    • @tenminutetokyo2643
      @tenminutetokyo2643 3 года назад

      Beto Beats Thanks India.

    • @axispro2215
      @axispro2215 3 года назад

      Exactly thank you

    • @Riasat202
      @Riasat202 3 года назад +2

      I knew iOS' encroachment into macOS would forever ruin it.

  • @aldeywahyuputra5719
    @aldeywahyuputra5719 4 года назад +77

    8:34 Oh my god, those icons AREN'T Even properly centered!

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 4 года назад +2

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

    • @JemaKnight
      @JemaKnight 4 года назад

      This probably hit me harder than anything else in the video tbh

    • @mr.whimsic6902
      @mr.whimsic6902 4 года назад +2

      and they aren't the same width either...

    • @birdnerd9437
      @birdnerd9437 4 года назад

      I see I wasn't the only one to notice that.

  • @TurboWafflz
    @TurboWafflz 4 года назад +273

    Everything about this feels like it should be an April fools joke.

    • @prestonferry
      @prestonferry 4 года назад +10

      Well they were founded on April Fools, which was April 1st 1977...

    • @Jonascohen2005
      @Jonascohen2005 4 года назад +20

      Apple really needs a Steve jobs kinda guy. Apple right now does not really feel different then any other company. But that’s my opinion

    • @pastaya
      @pastaya 4 года назад +1

      its june lol

    • @TomHofmann
      @TomHofmann 4 года назад +2

      @Smashing That Like Button One would argue the Jony Ive leaving design will take a bit of a dive.

    • @reinoldg
      @reinoldg 4 года назад +1

      Smashing That Like Button what do you talk about dude? They have release AirPods (which was named the best invention of the decade), Apple Watch, drastically improved their services, lowered the cost of acquisition for almost all products, was the first trillion dollar company, they have invested more in communities than ever before, they are running 100% (and more) on renewable energy, etc. Tim Cook is a great CEO and even Steve would ask him first for advice about every big decision he would take when he was alive and running the company. I truly don’t understand why people say Apple is not the same as before. It is not the same company just because is better actually.

  • @lofised9588
    @lofised9588 4 года назад

    What version do u use in the mac behind you?

  • @CherryTv_CUP
    @CherryTv_CUP 4 года назад

    anyone wanna explain the pre 2007 imac running big sur in the background?

  • @bixbabble3935
    @bixbabble3935 4 года назад +72

    This is what happens when Jonny Ives leaves

    • @Dogmicspane
      @Dogmicspane 4 года назад +31

      Jony made some dumb design choices in the past, but at least he was consistent.

    • @novkoviix
      @novkoviix 4 года назад +1

      He was involeved mostly in hardware and iOS design, he didn't design anything in macOS design in the past.

    • @bixbabble3935
      @bixbabble3935 4 года назад +6

      Filip Novković didn’t he work on Yosemite and beyond?

    • @Dogmicspane
      @Dogmicspane 4 года назад

      @@novkoviix I was thinking about how you're supposed to charge the Magic Mouse, but yeah, you're right.

  • @Windowsfan100
    @Windowsfan100 4 года назад +72

    It's like they're trying to take the Windows XP icons but with a modern take on them...

  • @MichaelN77
    @MichaelN77 4 года назад

    Great video is there any place I can download the image from 03.07.2017 and some of the other ones by any chance?

  • @glenntoal6346
    @glenntoal6346 3 года назад

    Is there anywhere to get that wallpaper? I know in the video you said it was your own photography.

  • @garyandresbarba1707
    @garyandresbarba1707 4 года назад +189

    The absence of Jony Ive is really feeling with macOS 11

    • @ysink
      @ysink 4 года назад +37

      Trying to do a complete redesign without Jony is, IMO, what has caused these problems

    • @cunnyman
      @cunnyman 4 года назад +20

      That seems to be the case, huh.
      But not having him around also removed Apple of any restrictions to abide by aesthetics.
      After he was gone, we had seen major overhaul to hardware. I honestly think it's not a coincidence because he's not responsible for just software design.

    • @TheSteveSteele
      @TheSteveSteele 4 года назад +24

      I don’t know. Ivy was responsible for Yosemite, the ugliest macOS of all time. Bring back Scott Forstall. Yeah, that will never happen.

    • @pnnytx
      @pnnytx 4 года назад +24

      @@TheSteveSteele IMO Yosemite is the best macOS redesign, from ugly skeuomorphism to flat design

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 4 года назад +1

      pnnytx I think it’s alright but nothing special. I live skeuomorphism and would’ve preferred that look over the 10.11 redesign for sure.
      10.15 looks really nice imo though, just hope they can get that consistency again when 11 actually releases.

  • @jcfawerd
    @jcfawerd 4 года назад +114

    The new window title looks like GNOME design coming to macOS

    • @UnrelentingAssault
      @UnrelentingAssault 4 года назад +22

      That's the first thing that came to mind as well. I personally don't mind GNOME's CSD, but it just seems unnecessarily thick. :/

    • @Fraudjaku
      @Fraudjaku 4 года назад

      What is gnome

    • @vinny30
      @vinny30 4 года назад

      Prince Saiyon第7火影 linux thingy

    • @armanelgtron4533
      @armanelgtron4533 4 года назад +7

      @@Fraudjaku Is Google broken?

    • @jcfawerd
      @jcfawerd 4 года назад +1

      deadmoose I’m okay with the title bar but icons really bug me

  • @TS-wb5nb
    @TS-wb5nb 4 года назад

    Where can I get this Wallpaper for my Mac?

  • @francoisgermain3991
    @francoisgermain3991 4 года назад

    Is that an OLD Mac I see in the background with Big Sur beta installed on it?

  • @woohoo2491
    @woohoo2491 4 года назад +236

    "big sur" sounds like how you make fun of someone calling someone else fat online, I hope 11.1 is called "bro pls"

    • @ambreiaju
      @ambreiaju 4 года назад +17

      Your pf (profile picture)... KDE Plasma gang rise up.

    • @jonatas.
      @jonatas. 4 года назад

      Lol true

    • @Locutus
      @Locutus 4 года назад +2

      I always read it as Big Slur.

    • @JakeSmith-fz9fp
      @JakeSmith-fz9fp 4 года назад

      @@ambreiaju lol, the exact thing I thought!

    • @usdevineni007
      @usdevineni007 4 года назад

      Locutus i read it as big slur because its easier

  • @felixband3000
    @felixband3000 4 года назад +200

    I don't really care about how it looks, the name is just so weird.
    "What OS do you use?"
    "Big Sur"
    "??"

    • @Tobykaani
      @Tobykaani 4 года назад +29

      Yeah. I am more of a Linux kind of guy, but Apple's naming scheme is usually pretty neat even though some could argue at times bit cheesy. *cough* *cough* Genius *cough*.
      But that name is straight out of some github repo to somekind of exploit tool to vulnerability.

    • @MyurrDurr
      @MyurrDurr 4 года назад +5

      I love using Big Sur! :') I really can't take it seriously that much

    • @ukoronje
      @ukoronje 4 года назад +2

      It’s so funny I laugh everytime I hear it, I love it♥️

    • @d9zirable
      @d9zirable 4 года назад +8

      BEEG SIR

    • @dinkledankle
      @dinkledankle 4 года назад +26

      Is anyone here aware Big Sur is an actual place? It isn't ridiculous at all. Mountain lion (lives in mountains), Maverick (lives in mountains), Yosemite (mostly mountains), El Capitan (a mountain), Sierra/High Sierra (more mountains), Mojave (in Cali, has mountains), Catalina (same deal as Mojave) and now Big Sur which is a strip of California coast with, you guessed it, mountains. All of it has to do with mountains. How are mountains ridiculous?

  • @manish4275
    @manish4275 4 года назад +6

    Why still use a hard drive for Macintosh icon instead of SSD? Considering all macs use SSD nowadays

    • @bru-ri5es
      @bru-ri5es 3 года назад

      bro i have a 2010 imac pro and a 2009 macbook cus apple is too expensive but for some reason i have like a $1k gaming setup with a op pc but apple is way more expensive than my op gaming setup so if im not on my pc ill use my 2009 macbook or 2010 imac pro that has a mechanical hard drive lel 🙃 and i am messaging on my pc so i is forced to use low quality emojis that look like the new battery icon in mac os big sur

    • @kartoffelstranger9187
      @kartoffelstranger9187 3 года назад

      Same reason the save button is a floppy disk icon~

    • @Photosounder
      @Photosounder 3 года назад

      Because we know what harddrives look like, SSDs on the other hand are either a smooth rectangle or a chip.

  • @AstAMoore
    @AstAMoore 4 года назад +2

    The icon of the internal SSD is still represented by an image of a 5.25″ hard drive?

    • @devihcra
      @devihcra 3 года назад

      And the save icon is still represented with a floppy?

  • @andreechen96
    @andreechen96 4 года назад +82

    this happens when the chief design forget to leave a note before leaving the company.. 😂😂😂

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 4 года назад +3

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

  • @mootsym
    @mootsym 4 года назад +101

    just take me back to Snow Leopard. So stable and so good looking.

    • @asinglefrenchfry
      @asinglefrenchfry 4 года назад +27

      is snow leopard like the windows 7 of mac

    • @user-dx8br5vb3n
      @user-dx8br5vb3n 4 года назад +8

      a single french fry Yes lol some people can’t let go of the stainless steel and wood grain

    • @CherryTv_CUP
      @CherryTv_CUP 4 года назад +4

      dang snow leopard was a very good release so smooth and stable and even ran my mid 2010 macbook pro as cool as ice! even today without a thermal paste replace!

    • @hkja99
      @hkja99 4 года назад +1

      And me osx tiger. Pretty old school, but I loved it

    • @richierich087
      @richierich087 4 года назад +6

      Yes, I wish there was a setting in MacOS to set the preferred UI style (for those of us who prefer the early days of the Aqua interface and whatnot).

  • @communismisawin
    @communismisawin 4 года назад

    I have a mid 2010 MacBook Pro 15 inch, can I get Big Sur?

  • @adityokristianto2757
    @adityokristianto2757 3 года назад

    Does anyone notice something?, The Old Imac on the background running macos big sur

  • @highvoltage12v
    @highvoltage12v 4 года назад +82

    The notification Bell in System Preferences is absolutely hideous.
    Edit: Yes, you mentioned the same thought I had about the bell.
    Some things look like a really bad Linux skin.
    If you use OS 11 in Light mode then look at the forward and back arrows in System Preferences, they look like they blend in, they're missing the rectangle box around the buttons.

    • @gleerty
      @gleerty 4 года назад

      @Deon Denis Better keep using Linux... You probably also prefer Android...

    • @ambreiaju
      @ambreiaju 4 года назад

      Your profile picture looks like the battery icon, maybe better than MAC OS big sur.

    • @highvoltage12v
      @highvoltage12v 4 года назад

      @@ambreiaju it's from IOS5 lol

  • @evancrazyerror
    @evancrazyerror 4 года назад +55

    So after trying to avoid it for years, they managed to have a Windows Vista (Catalina) AND a Windows 8 (Big Sur) release back to back...

    • @IdRatherNotHaveAHandleThankYou
      @IdRatherNotHaveAHandleThankYou 4 года назад +10

      What's wrong with Catalina? And Big Sur hasn't even been released yet AND is still in development, calm down.

    • @ILoveWomen
      @ILoveWomen 4 года назад +18

      outernet Catalina is so buggy. My favourite bug is the one where my laptop display doesn’t turn on after going to sleep (backlight on but black screen) and i have to do a hard reset, losing unsaved work. Adobe apps also didn’t work on release, a small Catalina update broke a daemon causing my CPU to spike to constant 75% usage, random massive log files in the system directory bring dropped for no reason, etc.
      Shit makes me almost want to go back to windows. Almost

    • @Jackson-sr7ms
      @Jackson-sr7ms 4 года назад +3

      Gabe Newell What system are you running it on? Catalina has run flawlessly for me

    • @xalataf3365
      @xalataf3365 4 года назад +2

      @@IdRatherNotHaveAHandleThankYou what Gabe said and the fact they killed 32 bit app support.

    • @vshnv_c
      @vshnv_c 4 года назад +2

      Gabe Newell Catalina isnt bad at all. You’re just cynical. Ive been running it with minimum problems on my 5k iMac.

  • @vischo
    @vischo 3 года назад

    Where can I get your desktop wallpaper?

  • @epic_paul27
    @epic_paul27 4 года назад

    Why and how does the old Intel 1st gen iMac in the background run Mac OS Big Sur?

  • @olek0019
    @olek0019 4 года назад +105

    Now it's looks more like Linux "MacOS copy" distro than real Mac OS

    • @CasioMaker
      @CasioMaker 4 года назад +25

      Heh, even copied themes on Linux or elementarOS base design is more consistent than what Apple did here

    • @themadoneplays7842
      @themadoneplays7842 4 года назад +7

      Yeah but some such distros do give it an effort like elementary OS, I am not a total fan of the OSX aesthetic but elementary is rather nice looking.
      I also like mints efforts too as while in terms of first looks it looks like windows but it marries some of the best parts of OSX and its design language into it, I am a big fan of the mint Y theme, not overly flat and fairly consistent and sure there are a few app icons that stand out a bit on it it does blend together for the most part, even QT apps blend in well given the right settings.

    • @TheRetroGamerBay
      @TheRetroGamerBay 4 года назад +6

      That's an insult to Linux lol

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 4 года назад +2

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

    • @dbzdrag0n
      @dbzdrag0n 4 года назад +2

      Jacob Anderson you’ve literally spammed this reply on like every comment do you not have anything else to say?

  • @seankkg
    @seankkg 4 года назад +19

    There's no way that's the real battery icon... It looks like a joke from 2007...

  • @neoqueto
    @neoqueto 4 года назад +3

    macOS Product Manager: So how many Photoshop Layer Style effects do you want to use?
    macOS Lead UI Designer: Yes.

  • @hanro50
    @hanro50 4 года назад +8

    ...this reminds me of Android phones from the days gingerbread was still considered a fresh release of Android...

  • @moth.monster
    @moth.monster 4 года назад +30

    They look like an art student trying too hard to practice shading

  • @Shadow_Lifeman
    @Shadow_Lifeman 4 года назад +66

    I really don't like the push to make it look like iOS. Doesn't really effect me since I'm stuck with Mojave, or else I lose a ton of compatibility for my older apps.

    • @RyanZohoury
      @RyanZohoury 4 года назад +14

      I feel the EXACT same way! Except for the fact that I am still on High Sierra, I feel that the decision to make macOS like iPadOS was a big mistake. They are two distinct systems made for two completely different purposes and interactions!

    • @chidorirasenganz
      @chidorirasenganz 4 года назад +2

      Ryan Zohoury nah it made perfect sense and I’m glad they made the change. I just wish they didn’t go so skeuomorphic with the icons 😑

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 4 года назад +1

      This push was already started. Have you forgotten the steps. In 2009 there was more stylization. And when moving from cats to landmarks there was again more stylization. Like a mix of current look and iOS.
      problem is not if they make it look like iOS. Problem is the icons that look like nothing else.

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 4 года назад +1

      Ryan Zohoury there is no decision to make them like each other. The navigation and layout is very very different. They are only bringing the visual styling a bit closer together. Which. They have done in phases since the last 5-7 years.

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 4 года назад +1

      chidorirasenganz yes. Why. All will be fine if they just fix those icons.

  • @svengoranabela4994
    @svengoranabela4994 4 года назад

    Where can I download your wallpapers

  • @LegioXXI
    @LegioXXI 4 года назад

    Can you at least still customize the toolbars (especially in finder)?

  • @alolanstarboy
    @alolanstarboy 4 года назад +56

    I honestly thought the UI on Catalina was just fine. There were still some old "glossy" skeumorphic style icons but overall the style was still clean and up to snuff with modern design sensibilities. It was a pretty nice mix of the two and it looked neat. It really didn't need to be overhauled this hard and especially not with those icons

  • @npgy
    @npgy 4 года назад +153

    Me: Mom can we have battery icon?
    Mom: No we have battery icon at home
    Battery icon at home:

  • @lahmyaj
    @lahmyaj 4 года назад +2

    Yeh pretty much agree with you on all that. I was surprised when I saw the WWDC demos that the icons and general UI just seemed a little off Apple’s usual standard.

  • @Ezvisas
    @Ezvisas 4 года назад

    Where can I have that wallpaper?

  • @elementaldraco
    @elementaldraco 4 года назад +31

    Battery icon is now reminiscent of the shape of baby feeding bottle.

  • @tivatavi
    @tivatavi 4 года назад +65

    Windows user: *insert James Francos "First time?" meme*

    • @holymoly849
      @holymoly849 4 года назад +1

      Lol this comment underrated

  • @ZacharyMcCoyMD
    @ZacharyMcCoyMD 4 года назад +2

    I appreciate that you focused a lot on the inconsistencies rather than just complaining about what you didn't like.

  • @hjonkiamgoose.5964
    @hjonkiamgoose.5964 3 года назад

    I wonder if the pipe organ voice in voice over utility is still available?

  • @nikuw
    @nikuw 4 года назад +94

    I'll miss the older tightly packed, smaller UI elements from our good old friend (mac)OS X. They worked fine on XGA and they're better than anything else at modern resolutions. Too bad Apple jumped on the pixel wasting trend.

    • @OscatA
      @OscatA 4 года назад +15

      OS X looks better than macOS 11. macOS 11 looks like it should be iPadOS.

    • @RyanZohoury
      @RyanZohoury 4 года назад +6

      Totally agree but I think that somewhere around how Catalina was already great but Big Sur is way too much!

    • @hikkamorii
      @hikkamorii 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, and while I get why you may want UI like this on windows(tablets, bad mice and trackpads), on macOS it's just wrong and sad, I hope they will remove that space wasting crap...

    • @BirdieParTee
      @BirdieParTee 4 года назад

      @@OscatA Because it probably is at the core, it makes sense that their starting point would have been iOS since they are building for ARM.

    • @adaml.5355
      @adaml.5355 Год назад

      macOS is dead. It’s truly a shit show these days. Terrible user interface. Terrible user experience. No innovation. The Steve Jobs era of macOS was just a different time entirely. So sad.

  • @rafisofyan
    @rafisofyan 4 года назад +38

    The battery icon looks like something you get from a free icon pack.

    • @kalijasin
      @kalijasin 4 года назад +1

      It does.

    • @deomkds
      @deomkds 4 года назад

      Or Android Gingerbread.

    • @MobileDecay
      @MobileDecay 4 года назад

      Don’t insult free icon packs. 😢

  • @DezeTimisTim
    @DezeTimisTim 4 года назад

    Your attention to detail is incredible. I would never ever have noticed the buttons in the photo app are different than the ones in activity monitor. Same goes for the rounded corners when you select things in different menu's.
    I do wholeheartedly agree with your opinion on the FaceTime, iMessage and battery icons.

  • @manzanaman9488
    @manzanaman9488 4 года назад

    First time RUclips has shown me a video fro you. Look forward to checking out more!

  • @Krysstophe
    @Krysstophe 4 года назад +16

    I’m glad I’m not the only one, it looks like a slightly ugly jailbreak tweak...

  • @ComputerClan
    @ComputerClan  4 года назад +28

    Enjoy the new video! I have at least one more WWDC 2020-themed video coming soon, so stay tuned! If you'd like, please subscribe and click the bell so you don't miss it!

    • @LoganT547
      @LoganT547 4 года назад

      h

    • @lythix3314
      @lythix3314 4 года назад

      Hi. How are you?

    • @2012X
      @2012X 4 года назад

      Yea

    • @davechen4979
      @davechen4979 4 года назад

      Hey, you know for most apps to change the icon you can go into the app itself and change out the image called favicon.icns usually

    • @jaybrooks1098
      @jaybrooks1098 4 года назад

      Ken.. what we are seeing is fusion of tablet and desktop os’s. We might see a tablet like design in future macbooks.

  • @DemonKitty666_
    @DemonKitty666_ 3 года назад

    Will Big Sur work on Imacs from 2013

  • @nw4538
    @nw4538 4 года назад

    I was waiting for someone to talk about this
    Thanks ken

  • @litjellyfish
    @litjellyfish 4 года назад +50

    The new shading on icons is just bad. Unbalanced and it feels like a step backwards to what it was 5y ago. But worst.

    • @ArunG273
      @ArunG273 4 года назад

      Not 5 years. It's like 10+ years back

  • @mohitsingla9263
    @mohitsingla9263 4 года назад +27

    the pro feel of developer is missing from big sur, it feels kinda childish.

  • @skyegorman1988
    @skyegorman1988 3 года назад +3

    The gods have answered your prayers, lol, they changed the battery Icon

  • @simonb2241
    @simonb2241 4 года назад +1

    I think that rounding from corners shows that in the September event a new imac comes with bigger screen and rounded corners probably then it looks way smoother and makes More sense

  • @nickarchiver52
    @nickarchiver52 4 года назад +19

    macOS Big Sur sounds like an out of place name for macOS

  • @PizzaParkersGarage
    @PizzaParkersGarage 4 года назад +123

    Welcome to macOS 11: Big Brain

    • @flipperskate6729
      @flipperskate6729 4 года назад +9

      You have macOS 11 Big Brain Edition and you have macOS 11 Small brain edition

    • @codix__
      @codix__ 4 года назад

      Apple: It's battery time !

    • @comicsanz97
      @comicsanz97 4 года назад

      macOS 11 Honda Civic. The same engine, ugly custom body kit.

    • @juliancumming6893
      @juliancumming6893 4 года назад

      As is the words of Sam Tucker, macOS Mcdonalds

  • @JoSephGD
    @JoSephGD 4 года назад +5

    I'm gonna stay at 10.13 for two reasons
    -My computer can only run up to it
    -It can run 32-bit apps without issue

  • @powergear5
    @powergear5 4 года назад

    Insightful Video, thanks for sharing

  • @samic
    @samic 4 года назад +46

    The battery looks very "Fisher-Price". Overall those icons has a Windows XP feel to them.

    • @TorutheRedFox
      @TorutheRedFox 4 года назад +1

      I guess that's what they're trying to go for?
      a design that has highlights and shadows to make things pop out from each other (making them easier to discern) but still is otherwise flat?

    • @kalijasin
      @kalijasin 4 года назад +1

      It does.

    • @thumbwarriordx
      @thumbwarriordx 4 года назад

      That's actually fine if they'd do it consistently across the whole system.
      But apparently they have issues even being consistent within the same icon.

  • @LloydLynx
    @LloydLynx 4 года назад +32

    They're making it look like Gnome 3.

    • @arthemis1039
      @arthemis1039 4 года назад +6

      Come on Gnome 3 is pretty nice now. They fixed most of the mess

    • @ezmod0
      @ezmod0 4 года назад +4

      come on gnome 3 theme looks better than this cartoony mess

    • @s9209122222
      @s9209122222 4 года назад +1

      It is what I'm thinking. However, Gnome3 looks much better with this kind of design, Mac does it wrong.

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu 4 года назад

      @@arthemis1039 It still feels like it was made for tablets instead of desktops and laptops.

  • @HelloGlamorous
    @HelloGlamorous 4 года назад

    oh my god lmao did you install the beta on that old core 2 imac?

  • @SchioAlves
    @SchioAlves 4 года назад

    That iMac G5 in the background... Is it just displaying a picture of Big Sur or did it get it's guts replaced, monitor mod, or something else?

  • @CWINDOWSsystem32
    @CWINDOWSsystem32 4 года назад +19

    This reminds me of when Windows 10 was in beta and the default system icons looked like they were clip art. There was a whole meme about the Recycle Bin looking like a kid's drawing...

  • @AnthonyThomas_Ant
    @AnthonyThomas_Ant 4 года назад +10

    The battery graphic reminds me of when I was learning to create web graphics in the early 2000s.

  • @ConnorGriffinMusic
    @ConnorGriffinMusic 4 года назад

    The difference in alignment is that in previous versions of macOS those dropdowns were aligned with the edge of the button highlight at the top, which made the text out of alignment. The new menus align the TEXT instead, so the checkbox in that one menu offsets it but the text remains aligned.

  • @tauhid9983
    @tauhid9983 4 года назад

    I have a question...
    Can we expect that the new OS update may potentially be able to fix some OS related issue from the previous update; catalina?

    • @ComputerClan
      @ComputerClan  4 года назад

      What issues are you referring to?

    • @tauhid9983
      @tauhid9983 4 года назад

      @@ComputerClan just generally speaking. I went to a mac repair centre and they just said there's smth wrong with my OS, and suggested I reinstall my OS or smth. I was hoping instead, to wait for the Big Sur and getting the problem solved

  • @RyanZohoury
    @RyanZohoury 4 года назад +17

    I’ve seen a few tweets from people who hate this redesign like me but I’m glad to see some RUclipsrs with the same views posting content about this as well. Really hope Apple will correct what they have messed up.

    • @techied
      @techied 4 года назад +3

      Nah they'll probably double down and refuse to listen to people.

    • @RyanZohoury
      @RyanZohoury 4 года назад +1

      I know Apple would never go back after unveiling this, but I hope they make some changes to make it more desktop-like instead of iPad-like. I have to admit that standardizing some of their designs isn’t a bad thing but I don’t like the implementation as a whole.

  • @loganlafont1091
    @loganlafont1091 4 года назад +13

    Rounding corners? More like cutting corners.

  • @gotnoid
    @gotnoid 4 года назад

    Can you do a side by side comparison with previous UI elements.

  • @luiz_pantoja
    @luiz_pantoja 4 года назад

    Hello, Ken! How do i get your wallpapers?

    • @ComputerClan
      @ComputerClan  4 года назад +1

      Hi Luiz! You can get the wallpapers with a Computer Clan Insider membership on our RUclips channel or on Patreon. Here's a quick link: bit.ly/clan2JGWYhz
      You may have to scroll back through the member-only content to find them because they were posted a couple weeks ago, but if you have any troubles, just let me know : )

  • @dragonv4953
    @dragonv4953 4 года назад +18

    Apple changes the market...
    *and with this new design I'm scared of that.*

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 4 года назад +6

      This is why I use Linux

    • @dragonv4953
      @dragonv4953 4 года назад

      oof, same here.

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 4 года назад

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

  • @raider4394
    @raider4394 4 года назад +20

    Mid 2012 13" Unibody User here. Can't say I'm too heartbroken about my Mac being killed off. I guess I'll update when DosDude pulls through I'll update.

    • @shockwaveexp3465
      @shockwaveexp3465 4 года назад

      Drew dosdude1 has already said that he doubts hardware graphics acceleration will ever come to Macs that have AMD Radeon 5000 or 6000 GPUs. The best you can do is replace the GPU with a Nvidia card, as it uses notebook MXM cards. Though that would require extensive disassembly and flashing the replacement card to work.

    • @kalijasin
      @kalijasin 4 года назад

      Programmed obsolescence.

  • @LaurenSchraderMusic
    @LaurenSchraderMusic 4 года назад

    Nice video, definitely subbing :) I really like how they are trying to homogenise their various OS’s, but some of the graphics on Big Sur are definitely all over the place and I hope they get that taken care of before launch

  • @viniciusferrao
    @viniciusferrao 4 года назад

    I sometimes just give up on Feedback Assistant. Curious there’s no Feedback when you report something. Bugs are there to stay...