I'm surprised with some of the negative reviews. I was so impressed with the ruclips.net/user/postUgkxMwYg0MOXR4M-oGeyBsNSYe1aPOUoRH6D cage that I got the lat pulldown attachment that goes with it. It is equally outstanding. I don't have one complaint other than putting it together is a job. The instructions and packaging of the parts are very well designed and organized. Also, I stripped and damaged the pull down cable the first day, admitting it was my stupid fault, and they quickly replaced it at no charge. I'm 6'5, 280lbs and fit in the cage just fine. Glenn B
We have the Elite FTS. It took a while to get, went on sale before they shipped it and the cover came ripped (which they did not replace). It works fine for us but we probably won’t be purchasing from them again.
wow. surprised they didnt replace. When I got mine a few years ago the box was mangled, the handles were completely missing and the cover's white logo was smeared. They sent out handles and a new cover asap.
I bought the Elitefts SS yoke over the Titan. I like Dave Tate and I have learned a lot over the years from his RUclips channel. I prefer to support American companies and I’m willing to pay extra money to do so. Great review as always Coop!
@@muffemod It's funny, usually Americans get criticized for wanting to patronize local vendors. To most Americans (non-corporate) the thought of moving production over seas is a 'sign of the end times".
This is what I would have imagined, solid picks. Wonder how the new BoS bar compares. I know it's more expensive at $300, but also has a variety of handles available.
I was wondering the same. Curious to hear your opinion, do you think those extra handles would have a practical benefit or are they maybe more of a gimmick?
I don't have their latest, but do have the previous version. The camber was off. If they fixed that, it would be a good option. I actually gave them the idea for the replaceable handles. Thought it would be cool.
@@tap4825 The US has a massive advantage over us Aussies due to many factors, but the main factors are them having 15x our population and having a thriving manufacturing sector. This means US customers can either buy American made, or go down the cheaper import line. They're spoiled for choice because they have such a wide reach of customers who will use them. I'm in Melbourne and it took me a while back in April/May to figure out who the best suppliers are in Australia in terms if value, service and quality of equipment Nearly all of our equipment is imported unfortunately, so research and trial and error is needed to determine who sells the best stuff, RUclips reviews are handy, but not a lot out there unless you're buying a well known American/European type of brand. I went the cheapest possible option initially just trying to get a few dumbbells in back in early April, that was a bad choice, warehouse mistakes were made and I never saw those dumbbells, after around 2 months I asked for my money back which I got and bought dumbbells at a slightly higher rate off Gumtree in May/June (didn't pay over $5 a kilo though) Since May I've used about 5-6 different suppliers, Sam's Fitness is the best I've used as long as you're happy to wait for them to restock, however some others are reasonable too If you're a crossfitter for example and don't want to pay overs/wait a long time for Rogue stuff, then Verve on the Gold Coast would do the job, alot of their stuff is Rogue inspired and they do westside 5/8s spacing on their racks, so they'd be compatible with Rogue Monster Lite I'd imagine Flex Fitness in Perth is one of the better budget options for all round home gear although Sam's do a lot of budget options too for things like bars, plates, dumbbells etc. But in particular for budget racks and benches, Flex would be worth a look. My squat rack is from them and it does the job, will look at upgrading to a full cage from Rogue or Sam's in due course though And in Melbourne, commercial fitness in Heidelberg is my best local option, they're mid range price on most things, but their stuff is decent Rogue is available too in Sydney, but they seem to have a chronic shortage of stock. Have not seen a rack or barbells on sale all year from them since I started my iso home gym. I have only seen Echo Bikes, plates, dumbbells, kettlebells, some strongman type equipment like sleds and bands available from them and I'd guess all that was made in China too Anyways, hope this helps
Now that Titan has raised the price of the bar to 300, which is pretty close to the B.O.S SS3. What do you think about the SS3? It seemed that they address most of the issues in v1 and v2. I'm curious about how it perform now. Could you do a review about the SS3 bar? Also, do you know what the shaft diameter of the Titan? The online spec said the bar diameter is 1.5in. Not sure if it is the same one. The B.O.S one is 32mm (1.25in). Smaller size, I guess. Thanks
In terms of cost to effectiveness ratio you can't beat the SS Yoke by EliteFTS. They often run sales that bring the bar's price down to 280$. Most comfortable and well-calibrated safety squat bar I've ever used hands down
@@highviewbarbell I wouldn't call them identical. 1. It looks cheap (if you care about equipment aesthetics) 2. It's made in China (if you care about supporting products made in the USA) 3. The padding is much thinner and is nowhere near as comfortable as the SS Yoke 4. The padding is not connected together by stitches and often moves around when you squat, making it less stable 5. The handles are shorter and thinner
I bought the Titan SSB V2 back in November 2019 and it still looks as good the day it arrived. It gets used on almost every squat session and I absolutely love it. My buddy I train with occasionally has the Rogue SSB and I don't like it nearly as much, and he spent almost double compared to my Titan. Time for Rogue to step up their game!
The Marrs Bar is a totally underrated bar! Not only does it put you in the most perfect position for a squat every time, but you can literally do it hands-free and with any other variation of squat as well (such as front squat, lunges, etc). Yes its a little pricey, but its a small price to pay to have the best multi-squat tool for a lifetime.
I looked everywhere trying to find a gym near me that had one so I could try before I buy but no one had it. Purchased site unseen. It arrives sometime next week, excited to get under it
I still have Fred Hatfields SSB Fred gave me 40 years ago i test monlifts with it and drop over 2,000 lb and it dont even twitch its still the best i everseen and as it does not have the handles on the yolk its used as originaly intended with handles on the rack
Thanks for the review, I ended up getting a Titan. I’m just starting out with it having never squatted and being older I can’t place my hands behind my back right now to hold a standard olympic bar. With stretching I will get there, In the meantime I will build my squat strength up using this.
Can the Tranformer replicate the positioning of the Marrs? I like the way it sits but would likely choose the Kabuki if it can get that low on the back.
I personally use the Elite FTS SSB at my gym and love it, and I totally agree with the chipping. I previously used the rogue SSB, and i hated it. The pad was way too minimal and itd leave so many marks on my shoulder/back, and it just felt cheap as hell compared to the Elite FTS. p.s. Stache looks top notch, Coop!
Kabuki is awesome but still waiting 4 months for delivery for another transformer bar. Their manufacturing process and access to all goods needed to finish and distribute their products is severely limited. These are challenging times, yes, but their logistics should cause people to look elsewhere.
I have the Marrs bar and 2 elitefts ssb, now I feel like I need to buy the kabuki transformer bar. love the honesty in the video it's the only way equipment gets improved
@@thomasbrown7328 Let's say you're squatting twice a week, incorporate the SSB into one of those days. It will give you some variety and a slightly different stimulus
@@thomasbrown7328 Most would use the SSB on the 2nd or 3rd squat slot in a week. Since it is ultimately close to whatever squat style you practice (high bar, low bar, front squat) the carry-over is high. Further, since most people don't front-squat (in my experience), the SSB mimics that pretty well. Due to a short torso and long femurs, I am dang near horizontal in the hole when I low bar, and that is my preferred squat placement, so the SSB is great because it forces more of the weight onto my quads, which drives my overall low bar numbers.
@@thomasbrown7328 ive almost completely replaced traditional squat with it. I dont compete and find SSB a lot more enjoyable. I can put up more weight lowbar, but who cares when its in your garage, lol.
Good explanation on safety squat bars!!! funny my choice was Titan I got that in my cave hahha Female cave I like to know if you have or going to do a revue on MULTI-GRIP CAMBER BAR I have The flat multi already so I am looking for a Camber . What do you think about the one Titan has ????
I think having the Marrs Bar pad shape with the camber of the Titan/EliteFTS would probably be the perfect bar that Rogue can create. The Marrs Bar pad because of how the handles and shafts contour to/around your upper body (looks more comfortable than the straight handles), and the camber of the Titan/EliteFTS because of how it simulates a high bar squat, front squat, or conventional deadlift depending on how you use it.
Hey Coop, strongly considering getting a transformer bar at some point but I have a question. I store my bars upright, can the moving mechanism of the sleeve handle being placed in a vertical bar holder for extended periods?
Hmmm, aside from harping on the price of the MB, just a few months before this vid on the review of the MB, you'd said that for all the things you'd formerly done using your other SSBs and "all" your bars (which would include the Transformer that you had as well), that you now do with the MB. I believe that says it all, and some other odd setting or two doesn’t a hill make. Kinda like satellite radio that has a gazillion channels, but you only end up using a handful of them. Plus, SSB setting is unnecessary really when you have front and back, and the MB GM is superior to the Transformer GM. And if I'm working legs, why do I also have to a do a push or pull workout...? I don't have either, but reviewing different reviews, the MB is King.
I’ve used many different brands of SSB. Elite FTS is still my winner. Fit and durability is almost impossible to match. Yes, I’m talking to you Rogue and Titan. And Chinese no name knockoffs. If I buy one, I’ll be getting a Fortis Fitness that’s made for low back squatting.
I'm a smaller person (4'11.25") and have heard that the Titan is fairly wide, even on larger people. I was wondering if you felt the same way about it, and would recommend it for someone on the smaller spectrum, or if there is a bar that a bit more narrow that might fit me better. Any advice/input is much appreciated!
I don’t write many reviews or comments, but in case it helps other I’d save your money and buy from someone other than Titan. Poor quality bar (dinged, scratched, and rusty on arrival). Quality problems exist with everyone, but Titan has been miserable to deal with, refuses to address the problems, and I won’t be buying any of their products again. Appreciate Coop’s reviews - and if you get a good one the Titan bar is very functional (if I bought mine used off of Craigslist I’d be pretty happy with it , but since it was suppose to be new and I’ve wasted so much time with useless support at Titan I wish I would have bought elsewhere every time I use it).
Coop - have you tried the Watson SSB? Would have enjoyed seeing that reviewed with this group but understand that access to Watson equipment is limited in the US . I’ve used the Rogue and Elitefts bar and the Watson SSB is head and shoulders above them both in every aspect.
Anyone know of a short saftey bar on the market?...I do not have space for a full legth bar. I currently use the Rogue C-70S shorty bar for my barbell which is 72 inches and about all the space I have. I have done reasech for a short saftey squat bar but have never been able to find anything.
I have a Watson SSB which is probably one of if not the best UK option. They're over £400 new with shipping but I got mine second-hand for £150 which was an absolute steal!
In Canada they have a brand called "Bronson". Basically black coated titan (unsure if camber is the same but looks like it) Bells of Steel V3 SSB bar looks pretty cool with chain handles, could be a cool review
The Sb-1 Bar sucks. I like the Titan Fitness v1 ssb better than that Bar. It's way to long and heavy and the heavy space puts all the pressure causing ac joint pain. And this Ac Joint irritation is the exact opposite of what a ssb bar is supposed to do so...
I use the Elite FTS Yoke SSB 3X per week. After a year I need to rack it 4” higher because I now stand taller. Alsruhe or Thrall said wherever your weakness, this bar will find and fix it, and in my case this was true. I got it on sale for less than 350. It arrived in a few days in a broken box with a chip in the finish but I figured it would get worse anyway so I just accepted it. It’s as good after two years as when it arrived. I already had axle collars but I don’t always use them. Any outward drift of free plates gives me feedback that my lift is becoming unsymmetric. I haven’t used any others, but the latest Transformer looks interesting. Consider learning this bar through high frequency highly recoverable work. Going heavy right away might substitute compensation for foundation strengthening. Good review, thanks!
Lol just stick with Elitefts. Those guys are actually passionate about the sport and they provide so much free content on their site. I won't comment on what I actually think of Rogue.
I bought the Kabuki Transformer Bar and love it! It’s probably not the “best” SSB compared to Elite FTS or low bar SSB like the mars bar but for all the different options you can use it’s worth the money. I have 2 leg days a week, 1 hamstring focused and 1 quad and will rotate between the high bar, low bar and front squat position and it’s amazing. Good mornings are also nice on it
Hey Coop, how does the goblet and front squat option feel on the transformer bar? I don’t think I’ve seen anybody squat with it on that setting. I love the way goblet squats feel, I’m just wondering if this recreates that same position you get with the kettlebell
Literally the video I needed, I'm building my own home gym so thanks a lot and best luck to anyone building their own home gyms, were on this trip together 🤟
Thank you for saying this! Every time he says you need to buy different collars it bugs me. I have them and use them for all my bars, specialty or otherwise, and my loadable DB handles too.
One concern with the Marrs Bar if you use a mono lift. Since the bar sits so low, my crew noticed our heads get VERY close to the cross beam on the mono. We either have to raise the height and shrug OR take it out at a high bar point and then adjust. Always a little bit of a hassle too when re racking. Great bar for low bar squats, good mornings, hatfields, etc. Just a little sketchy with headroom when using a monolift (Elite FTS Mono for those wondering).
Honestly I wouldn't use a mono lift with a ssb anyways, just due to the fact that it's always gonna be harder to tell where the bar is and the angle is going to be weird.
Rogue doesn’t really care all that much about specialty bars. They do make a awesome Curl bar. And one amazing Stainless steel Lat bar which is one of the nicest bars I’ve seen and that’s about it for any specialty bars
Hate to be a stickler here but.... Axle bars are usually made from 1.5" sch40 pipe which has an outside diameter of 1.875". 2" pipe that you mentioned would have an outside diameter of 2.375".
The Marrs bar seems perfect for me. I have a problem of leaning way too far forward even in lowbar squats, so having a ssb bar like the titan do that intentionally is a bad idea but since the Marrs bar keeps you more upright that seems perfect
I was just looking into shoes (considering replacing my NB minimus prevails w. Metcon 6/7 or dedicated lifters for squats) and couldn't find any details on which types of shoes or heel/toe drop would work best with safety squat bars. Do you have any recommendations? I have the Titan SSB v2
Hey Coop , IF You Are really a Channel for GarageGym Reviews not a Rogue advertiser,Please give us an honest Review of everything from IRONMASTER from the IM2000,IRONMASTER Adjustable Dumbbells,and SuperBench Pro to all Attachments and Add On Kits for Each plus information about ways to buy it not only in USA but all around The World, it will be good for you if you got followers from all around the world wouldn't it?
I'd pay $600 every day of the week for a Transformer Bar, but to get one imported to the UK will cost me at least another $600, and just on principle I can't do that 😔
I would love to have a Transformer Bar but the current price of $670 plus shipping and California tax would have been $934 plus a 2 month wait... ouch!! I bought a SSYoke from EliteFTS today and it will be here in 5 days. When I win the lottery, I'll buy a Transformer Bar and a Marrs Bar... and maybe more of the cool stuff that Coop has! :-) Great review but I had to go with American made.
That moustache ...is very distracting. It's between you and your SO, if that's just your style then fine. But I'm just saying it kinda distracts from the video content. I keep expecting you to crack a joke, or do something silly...it makes me think of the police officers in comedy movies. I dunno. Maybe a clean shave. Or shave off the moustache and grow a beard. Or just shape-up the moustache differently. Just saying....
Coop, I want to ask if any fitness companies out there making a shorter version (70”) of safety squat bar? As for the limited space in a home gym setting, Rogue make shorter Barbell like the Stump Bar to fit in smaller space. But how come there are no options for the shorter Safety Squat Bar (70”) out there? What is the main reason behind it?
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I love Rogue, BUT you were spot on regarding your comment (17:55).
I'm surprised with some of the negative reviews. I was so impressed with the ruclips.net/user/postUgkxMwYg0MOXR4M-oGeyBsNSYe1aPOUoRH6D cage that I got the lat pulldown attachment that goes with it. It is equally outstanding. I don't have one complaint other than putting it together is a job. The instructions and packaging of the parts are very well designed and organized. Also, I stripped and damaged the pull down cable the first day, admitting it was my stupid fault, and they quickly replaced it at no charge. I'm 6'5, 280lbs and fit in the cage just fine. Glenn B
We have the Elite FTS. It took a while to get, went on sale before they shipped it and the cover came ripped (which they did not replace). It works fine for us but we probably won’t be purchasing from them again.
wow. surprised they didnt replace. When I got mine a few years ago the box was mangled, the handles were completely missing and the cover's white logo was smeared. They sent out handles and a new cover asap.
4:05 You can just buy 2$ clamps from Home Depot, guarantee you those plates aren't going anywhere
I thought I was the only one 😂 that's what I use on my log lol
Got some orange ones from Lowes. I use them on my elite fts American bar too. They're extremely effective
I bought the Elitefts SS yoke over the Titan. I like Dave Tate and I have learned a lot over the years from his RUclips channel. I prefer to support American companies and I’m willing to pay extra money to do so. Great review as always Coop!
What's more American than outsourcing jobs overseas?! 😂😂😂
@@muffemod It's funny, usually Americans get criticized for wanting to patronize local vendors. To most Americans (non-corporate) the thought of moving production over seas is a 'sign of the end times".
Same.
You like to support America companies I'm guessing ou didn't vote for creepy Joe Biden then 😂😂
This is what I would have imagined, solid picks. Wonder how the new BoS bar compares. I know it's more expensive at $300, but also has a variety of handles available.
I was wondering the same. Curious to hear your opinion, do you think those extra handles would have a practical benefit or are they maybe more of a gimmick?
I don't have their latest, but do have the previous version. The camber was off. If they fixed that, it would be a good option. I actually gave them the idea for the replaceable handles. Thought it would be cool.
@@GarageGymReviews Have you tried any of the sorinex bars yet like the ox bar
@@GarageGymReviews Hey Coop, any update on that BOS steel SSB?
@@GarageGymReviews not that it is any of my business, but if you don’t mind my asking did they credit you for giving them the idea?
I'm 15 idk why I'm looking for a safety squat bar.
I bought my first SSB at 16. Not like you only need an SSB when you’re old 😂
@@Applefanatic1000 yeah they are pretty useful regardless of age
Dont be a slave to the straight bar. Does the most versatile piece of equipment likely lead to the best results in each specific area?
Start saving money and buying parts of your home gym now! Then when you get your own space, boom you have a gym lol
I was looking at it for my pregnant wife.... Well that's what I'm telling her any ways.
Everyone at Coop's Gym the day of the review: Well, I could have sworn there were like 5 safety bars the last time I checked...
Support Kabuki and Elite FTS they are good companies.
5mo lead time for Kabuki, nah fam, nah.
Super high prices , 19-20 weeks, no thanks!! My legs what no the diffrence from titan or kabuki!!!
Still would buy the yolk bar, Dave has put out so much knowledge for free. Just for that. He gets my dollars.
Lol true
U.S has so many gym equipment company!! Australia doesn't have that many....and shipping to Australia is an arm and a leg.
You have ATX, don't you? Their SSB is pretty decent for the price.
Then you can just get a smith machine and do unilateral training, saves you cash in the long run
Sam's Fitness for ATX bro
I don't mean just for the SSB, but for all equipments in general, U.S have so much more equipment/variety.
@@tap4825 The US has a massive advantage over us Aussies due to many factors, but the main factors are them having 15x our population and having a thriving manufacturing sector. This means US customers can either buy American made, or go down the cheaper import line. They're spoiled for choice because they have such a wide reach of customers who will use them.
I'm in Melbourne and it took me a while back in April/May to figure out who the best suppliers are in Australia in terms if value, service and quality of equipment
Nearly all of our equipment is imported unfortunately, so research and trial and error is needed to determine who sells the best stuff, RUclips reviews are handy, but not a lot out there unless you're buying a well known American/European type of brand.
I went the cheapest possible option initially just trying to get a few dumbbells in back in early April, that was a bad choice, warehouse mistakes were made and I never saw those dumbbells, after around 2 months I asked for my money back which I got and bought dumbbells at a slightly higher rate off Gumtree in May/June (didn't pay over $5 a kilo though)
Since May I've used about 5-6 different suppliers, Sam's Fitness is the best I've used as long as you're happy to wait for them to restock, however some others are reasonable too
If you're a crossfitter for example and don't want to pay overs/wait a long time for Rogue stuff, then Verve on the Gold Coast would do the job, alot of their stuff is Rogue inspired and they do westside 5/8s spacing on their racks, so they'd be compatible with Rogue Monster Lite I'd imagine
Flex Fitness in Perth is one of the better budget options for all round home gear although Sam's do a lot of budget options too for things like bars, plates, dumbbells etc. But in particular for budget racks and benches, Flex would be worth a look. My squat rack is from them and it does the job, will look at upgrading to a full cage from Rogue or Sam's in due course though
And in Melbourne, commercial fitness in Heidelberg is my best local option, they're mid range price on most things, but their stuff is decent
Rogue is available too in Sydney, but they seem to have a chronic shortage of stock. Have not seen a rack or barbells on sale all year from them since I started my iso home gym. I have only seen Echo Bikes, plates, dumbbells, kettlebells, some strongman type equipment like sleds and bands available from them and I'd guess all that was made in China too
Anyways, hope this helps
Now that Titan has raised the price of the bar to 300, which is pretty close to the B.O.S SS3. What do you think about the SS3? It seemed that they address most of the issues in v1 and v2.
I'm curious about how it perform now. Could you do a review about the SS3 bar?
Also, do you know what the shaft diameter of the Titan? The online spec said the bar diameter is 1.5in. Not sure if it is the same one. The B.O.S one is 32mm (1.25in). Smaller size, I guess.
Thanks
13:53 - DAMN IT, COOP!!!
For the LAST TIME!!
The word, “Height” is NOT pronounced like that!!! Do you have a LISP??!!????
In terms of cost to effectiveness ratio you can't beat the SS Yoke by EliteFTS. They often run sales that bring the bar's price down to 280$. Most comfortable and well-calibrated safety squat bar I've ever used hands down
the titan one is identical though at half the cost
@@highviewbarbell I wouldn't call them identical.
1. It looks cheap (if you care about equipment aesthetics)
2. It's made in China (if you care about supporting products made in the USA)
3. The padding is much thinner and is nowhere near as comfortable as the SS Yoke
4. The padding is not connected together by stitches and often moves around when you squat, making it less stable
5. The handles are shorter and thinner
Titan is better. How does the FTS bar not look cheap with all the chips and scratches in the chrome lol
@@NaturalHypertrophy i think we're both just defending the ones we have and use lol
@@highviewbarbell probably lol
Titan bar is now $300
I bought the Titan SSB V2 back in November 2019 and it still looks as good the day it arrived. It gets used on almost every squat session and I absolutely love it. My buddy I train with occasionally has the Rogue SSB and I don't like it nearly as much, and he spent almost double compared to my Titan. Time for Rogue to step up their game!
Yep, it's one of my favorite things they make.
The Marrs Bar is a totally underrated bar! Not only does it put you in the most perfect position for a squat every time, but you can literally do it hands-free and with any other variation of squat as well (such as front squat, lunges, etc). Yes its a little pricey, but its a small price to pay to have the best multi-squat tool for a lifetime.
It's also out of stock everywhere I looked :(
I'd say it's much more than "a little pricey." It's a LOT pricy.
I looked everywhere trying to find a gym near me that had one so I could try before I buy but no one had it. Purchased site unseen. It arrives sometime next week, excited to get under it
@@matthewmurphy5543How'd it go...?
Titan is up to $300.
Right now it’s about a 40 dollar difference before tax…went with the EliteFTS myself.
Next one: buffalo, duffalo, Bow bar
I still have Fred Hatfields SSB Fred gave me 40 years ago i test monlifts with it and drop over 2,000 lb and it dont even twitch its still the best i everseen and as it does not have the handles on the yolk its used as originaly intended with handles on the rack
I got a Titan and I love the bar. The only complaint I have is that I wish I was much stronger haha
Hey coop, rogue did buy the kabuki bar lol. You must’ve had a idea you dirty dog 😉
Thanks for the review, I ended up getting a Titan. I’m just starting out with it having never squatted and being older I can’t place my hands behind my back right now to hold a standard olympic bar. With stretching I will get there, In the meantime I will build my squat strength up using this.
Can the Tranformer replicate the positioning of the Marrs? I like the way it sits but would likely choose the Kabuki if it can get that low on the back.
5 months later and the titan bar is almost the same price as the others.
I personally use the Elite FTS SSB at my gym and love it, and I totally agree with the chipping. I previously used the rogue SSB, and i hated it. The pad was way too minimal and itd leave so many marks on my shoulder/back, and it just felt cheap as hell compared to the Elite FTS. p.s. Stache looks top notch, Coop!
Kabuki is awesome but still waiting 4 months for delivery for another transformer bar. Their manufacturing process and access to all goods needed to finish and distribute their products is severely limited. These are challenging times, yes, but their logistics should cause people to look elsewhere.
Swiss bar round up, including cambered!
I have the Marrs bar and 2 elitefts ssb, now I feel like I need to buy the kabuki transformer bar. love the honesty in the video it's the only way equipment gets improved
I’m deciding between the marrs bar and the elitefts, which one do you recommend if you could only have one? Thanks!
@@philipportolano948 I’d go with the Marrs bar or the new kabuki transformer bar by rogue.
I'm not surprised. The titan SSB is a real game changer. Its fantastic. Get it.
How has it helped you, please? I’m still not sure how to incorporate my SSB into my programing.
@@thomasbrown7328 Let's say you're squatting twice a week, incorporate the SSB into one of those days. It will give you some variety and a slightly different stimulus
@@thomasbrown7328 Most would use the SSB on the 2nd or 3rd squat slot in a week. Since it is ultimately close to whatever squat style you practice (high bar, low bar, front squat) the carry-over is high. Further, since most people don't front-squat (in my experience), the SSB mimics that pretty well. Due to a short torso and long femurs, I am dang near horizontal in the hole when I low bar, and that is my preferred squat placement, so the SSB is great because it forces more of the weight onto my quads, which drives my overall low bar numbers.
Review coming soon ;-)
@@thomasbrown7328 ive almost completely replaced traditional squat with it. I dont compete and find SSB a lot more enjoyable. I can put up more weight lowbar, but who cares when its in your garage, lol.
currently doing “squat everyday” with my ssb yoke bar.... i love it
Finally the one i`ve been waitin` for. Thnx Coop!
Good explanation on safety squat bars!!! funny my choice was Titan I got that in my cave hahha Female cave I like to know if you have or going to do a revue on MULTI-GRIP CAMBER BAR I have The flat multi already so I am looking for a Camber . What do you think about the one Titan has ????
I think having the Marrs Bar pad shape with the camber of the Titan/EliteFTS would probably be the perfect bar that Rogue can create. The Marrs Bar pad because of how the handles and shafts contour to/around your upper body (looks more comfortable than the straight handles), and the camber of the Titan/EliteFTS because of how it simulates a high bar squat, front squat, or conventional deadlift depending on how you use it.
Lol i just paid 840 for my transformer bar with shipping. Can't wait to give it a test drive.
Hey Coop, strongly considering getting a transformer bar at some point but I have a question.
I store my bars upright, can the moving mechanism of the sleeve handle being placed in a vertical bar holder for extended periods?
Yes, it can. It locks into the sleeve camber attachment. Great question.
I have version 3. I store it vertically no problem. It does take alot of room though.
Hmmm, aside from harping on the price of the MB, just a few months before this vid on the review of the MB, you'd said that for all the things you'd formerly done using your other SSBs and "all" your bars (which would include the Transformer that you had as well), that you now do with the MB. I believe that says it all, and some other odd setting or two doesn’t a hill make. Kinda like satellite radio that has a gazillion channels, but you only end up using a handful of them. Plus, SSB setting is unnecessary really when you have front and back, and the MB GM is superior to the Transformer GM. And if I'm working legs, why do I also have to a do a push or pull workout...? I don't have either, but reviewing different reviews, the MB is King.
I’ve used many different brands of SSB.
Elite FTS is still my winner. Fit and durability is almost impossible to match. Yes, I’m talking to you Rogue and Titan. And Chinese no name knockoffs.
If I buy one, I’ll be getting a Fortis Fitness that’s made for low back squatting.
I'm a smaller person (4'11.25") and have heard that the Titan is fairly wide, even on larger people. I was wondering if you felt the same way about it, and would recommend it for someone on the smaller spectrum, or if there is a bar that a bit more narrow that might fit me better. Any advice/input is much appreciated!
No mention of the Bells of Steel SSB eh? Would be interested in you reviewing the SS3
Watching this in 2023 and the $600 Kabuki transformer is now $800, thanks Kabuki
Good lord. Just get a Top Squat attachment from Dave Draper. You don't need several bars in a home gym.
I don’t write many reviews or comments, but in case it helps other I’d save your money and buy from someone other than Titan. Poor quality bar (dinged, scratched, and rusty on arrival). Quality problems exist with everyone, but Titan has been miserable to deal with, refuses to address the problems, and I won’t be buying any of their products again.
Appreciate Coop’s reviews - and if you get a good one the Titan bar is very functional (if I bought mine used off of Craigslist I’d be pretty happy with it , but since it was suppose to be new and I’ve wasted so much time with useless support at Titan I wish I would have bought elsewhere every time I use it).
Do you have a recommendation for collars/clamps for the SS Yoke Bar that don't cost a lot. I have Lock Jaws but, they don't work. Too loose.
Coop - have you tried the Watson SSB? Would have enjoyed seeing that reviewed with this group but understand that access to Watson equipment is limited in the US . I’ve used the Rogue and Elitefts bar and the Watson SSB is head and shoulders above them both in every aspect.
That's good to know.
Anyone know of a short saftey bar on the market?...I do not have space for a full legth bar. I currently use the Rogue C-70S shorty bar for my barbell which is 72 inches and about all the space I have. I have done reasech for a short saftey squat bar but have never been able to find anything.
I have a Watson SSB which is probably one of if not the best UK option. They're over £400 new with shipping but I got mine second-hand for £150 which was an absolute steal!
Safety squat bar is basically like the trap bar for deadlifts because of how it's safer
Except the trap bar is more dangerous due to instability at the top
In Canada they have a brand called "Bronson". Basically black coated titan (unsure if camber is the same but looks like it)
Bells of Steel V3 SSB bar looks pretty cool with chain handles, could be a cool review
Awesome review Coop. I agree with you 💯. Going to get me a Titan 💪
Do you think the newer startups (Griffin, Strength Co, etc) will be around for a while?
The Sb-1 Bar sucks. I like the Titan Fitness v1 ssb better than that Bar. It's way to long and heavy and the heavy space puts all the pressure causing ac joint pain. And this Ac Joint irritation is the exact opposite of what a ssb bar is supposed to do so...
I use the Elite FTS Yoke SSB 3X per week. After a year I need to rack it 4” higher because I now stand taller. Alsruhe or Thrall said wherever your weakness, this bar will find and fix it, and in my case this was true.
I got it on sale for less than 350. It arrived in a few days in a broken box with a chip in the finish but I figured it would get worse anyway so I just accepted it. It’s as good after two years as when it arrived. I already had axle collars but I don’t always use them. Any outward drift of free plates gives me feedback that my lift is becoming
unsymmetric.
I haven’t used any others, but the latest Transformer looks interesting.
Consider learning this bar through high frequency highly recoverable work. Going heavy right away might substitute compensation for foundation strengthening.
Good review, thanks!
Excellent video by Nicolas Cage👌🏼👏🏻
Hey Coop, please do a review on a front squat harness such as from Rhyno Power. Curious on your thoughts
What about the elitefts spider bar?!
Rogue needs to use their incredible engineering and resources to start producing gym equipment again🙇♂️
Lol just stick with Elitefts. Those guys are actually passionate about the sport and they provide so much free content on their site. I won't comment on what I actually think of Rogue.
I bought the Kabuki Transformer Bar and love it! It’s probably not the “best” SSB compared to Elite FTS or low bar SSB like the mars bar but for all the different options you can use it’s worth the money. I have 2 leg days a week, 1 hamstring focused and 1 quad and will rotate between the high bar, low bar and front squat position and it’s amazing. Good mornings are also nice on it
I'm all in on Kabuki... "buy once, cry once."
same!
Can’t go wrong with Titan. Honestly, I think their products aren’t half bad as people say.
Their quality is getting better. It used to be serious garbage.
I won't support companies that make junk, even if I get a deal. Bye Titan.
Do you know right??texas cop! 👌
Man all these paddings look so much better than what I got on the StrengthShop one, i basically got 3 separate "pussy pads"
Paid $160 for my Titan SSB. Used some points and it was on a discount day. Saved like $60 overall.
You lot are spoilt in America. We have do make do with a broom handle and bags of flour over here in blighty.
I had the titan ssb, over 400 pounds you can feel bar on your collar bar it fucking sucks
Hey Coop, how does the goblet and front squat option feel on the transformer bar? I don’t think I’ve seen anybody squat with it on that setting. I love the way goblet squats feel, I’m just wondering if this recreates that same position you get with the kettlebell
I’m 1/2 way thru the 12 week agony waiting for my transformer bar. “The waiting is the hardest part”.
Literally the video I needed, I'm building my own home gym so thanks a lot and best luck to anyone building their own home gyms, were on this trip together 🤟
Have you tried the Watson SSB?
Would be great to see more Watson equipment reviewed
I can't imagine wanting to buy a Titan bar at all, especially when it's just a rip off of the original
I like the Crepinsek SSB over the Titan and EliteFTS models. The Marrs bars looks interesting.
Where can we get the crep? The web site gives an error.
You can use Rogue HG collars on the SSYoke
Thank you for saying this! Every time he says you need to buy different collars it bugs me. I have them and use them for all my bars, specialty or otherwise, and my loadable DB handles too.
I have the titan. It's great. Bought it a little over a year ago (pre-covid). I see it's $35 more now and they're backordered until Dec.
does anyone knows the exact angles between the bar and the sleeves?
and between the bar and the handles?
One concern with the Marrs Bar if you use a mono lift. Since the bar sits so low, my crew noticed our heads get VERY close to the cross beam on the mono. We either have to raise the height and shrug OR take it out at a high bar point and then adjust. Always a little bit of a hassle too when re racking. Great bar for low bar squats, good mornings, hatfields, etc. Just a little sketchy with headroom when using a monolift (Elite FTS Mono for those wondering).
Honestly I wouldn't use a mono lift with a ssb anyways, just due to the fact that it's always gonna be harder to tell where the bar is and the angle is going to be weird.
Do you still think the transformer bar is the best in 2024 ?
Rogue doesn’t really care all that much about specialty bars. They do make a awesome Curl bar. And one amazing Stainless steel Lat bar which is one of the nicest bars I’ve seen and that’s about it for any specialty bars
The trap bar is A1 though
Hate to be a stickler here but.... Axle bars are usually made from 1.5" sch40 pipe which has an outside diameter of 1.875". 2" pipe that you mentioned would have an outside diameter of 2.375".
It's the Marrs bar because it's not high bar style like the others.
Great video as always. Can you do a review on how to best use the ROGUE slinger?
I'm a big fan of my Black Widow Training Gear SSB. I'd love to see you a review on some of their products.
Same here!!!
Thumbnail looks like Hitler squatting
9:38 EliteFTS reads ELLTEFTS (not sure if that is an easy edit)
What's your take on the watson fitness safety squat bar from the uk
The Marrs bar seems perfect for me. I have a problem of leaning way too far forward even in lowbar squats, so having a ssb bar like the titan do that intentionally is a bad idea but since the Marrs bar keeps you more upright that seems perfect
Just wish shipping wasn’t 300$
I was just looking into shoes (considering replacing my NB minimus prevails w. Metcon 6/7 or dedicated lifters for squats) and couldn't find any details on which types of shoes or heel/toe drop would work best with safety squat bars. Do you have any recommendations? I have the Titan SSB v2
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I'd pay $600 every day of the week for a Transformer Bar, but to get one imported to the UK will cost me at least another $600, and just on principle I can't do that 😔
Rogue is becoming the Intel of CPU's and AMD is crushing you!
But.. you promised a complete Adjustable dumbbells video :(
Just a bit hard to get adjustable dumbbells right now. There's one other set I'm waiting on.
@@GarageGymReviews I see and yes, I can imagine.
I would love to have a Transformer Bar but the current price of $670 plus shipping and California tax would have been $934 plus a 2 month wait... ouch!! I bought a SSYoke from EliteFTS today and it will be here in 5 days. When I win the lottery, I'll buy a Transformer Bar and a Marrs Bar... and maybe more of the cool stuff that Coop has! :-) Great review but I had to go with American made.
That moustache ...is very distracting.
It's between you and your SO, if that's just your style then fine. But I'm just saying it kinda distracts from the video content.
I keep expecting you to crack a joke, or do something silly...it makes me think of the police officers in comedy movies.
I dunno. Maybe a clean shave. Or shave off the moustache and grow a beard. Or just shape-up the moustache differently.
Just saying....
So glad someone is making reviews without making dumb faces, stupid sounds, and just overall not being gimmicky. Good job.
Went to order the Kabuki and the did not offer 5% with the coop5 code. It was $669 and shipping was $223.88 for a total of $893.87. Damn!
Still waiting on my transformer bar. 13 weeks now.....
waiting on the trap bar myself. Going on 12 weeks.
I bought a York SSB it’s just ok
The rogue is the best if you go heavy. It isn't wimpy even beyond 600lbs.
hahahahahahaha
@@user-cm9ef4fw7m what's your problem?
Coop, I want to ask if any fitness companies out there making a shorter version (70”) of safety squat bar? As for the limited space in a home gym setting, Rogue make shorter Barbell like the Stump Bar to fit in smaller space. But how come there are no options for the shorter Safety Squat Bar (70”) out there? What is the main reason behind it?