I've been so excited about these for a while. The level of modularity and customization was one reason I always stuck with Waterborne. The endless truck, bushing and other combos is awesome for dialing down! Plus how deep that dive is, is addictive! But these trucks seem to be able to do it all in one, way more compact and lightweight package. Really park friendly too. The axle options rather than swapping trucks, the baseplate options instead of reassembling with angled risers, these are awesome! I've always been really into modifying and customization, and I think these will bring something special to the industry (and us tinkerers) for sure! So so excited to finally get these on some different boards for testing! 🛹
Another great review thanks Mark 🙏 Looks like another purchase we didn't know we needed! Can I ask which wheels you are using here please? They look like a good all rounder. Atb
@bushmonkey877 These were actually prototype versions of the new surfskate love bowl wheels that Steve sent to get my impressions, but these were a softer durometer than the final product. The final version are better I think.
I've always wondered if someone could design a coper for the kingpin on surfskate trucks. Madrid makes retro copers for their trucks that lock on pretty well.
how is the noise on rough terrain? Love my Curfboard but since the nylon insert bits wore out it's very noisy on rough ground, lots of metal on metal clanging, no bushings. The Synergy has bushings but it also has sphericals, so do they transmit noise more than a CX type truck? The sphericals should make it awfully efficient though. Also compared to Curfboard, they both have lots of offset so I think they could be very similar in feel, but Curfboard with its unique geometry prevents the deck from tipping over when you lean far to the side; essentially it shifts the pivot axis toward the direction of the lean. The double-pivot trucks do a similar thing. The Synergy doesn't do this, so with its heavy offset does it feel tippy when leaning far?
@madzubmetler I think it is hard to judge on noise. I have fairly hard wheels on them which transmit noise more, and Qwiktruks which add the metal on metal component. The way I have it set up, it does make noise but I couldn't pinpoint it on the trucks. They lean a lot, and I love that, but I know some people like tighter trucks. Not "tippy" in my opinion.
@MarktheLandlockedSurfer thanks I have my curfboard at 15inch wheelbase with three wedge risers so it's mega lean and loose so many this will be super stable compared. Lol
Hello, I have a question but not for the trucks... I see in your videos that you really love your whitetail board. But why are they different from au regular street skate board? They both have nose and tail. I don't see the differences. Are those board the best board for surfskating in a skatepark? Why? Thank-you for your videos, they are very valuable to me.
The difference is that this board has the functional shape of a skateboard that is geared for the type of aggressive riding I prefer, while also accommodating a wheelbase that is long enough to give me a proper distance between surfskate trucks. It is rare to find a regular skate deck with greater than 15" wb which greatly limits the options of trucks that would work without feeling too twitchy.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Ok :D now i am here for the trucks hahaha. They seem good for the skate park and bowl but what do you think about it for crusing. Does it push foward well? Thank you for all your advices.
@rageburst "More resistant" could be good or bad in the context of grinds! Did you mean more durable (good), or grinds poorly because of greater resistance/friction (bad)?
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer I'm just wondering if the hangar is made of something more durable other than the usual aluminum. I would often swap to regular skateboard trucks since I feel they're more disposable than the more pricier surfskate trucks, and I cheat by only going on metal. I haven't grinded on my curfboard yet because they're already so pricey.
Nice review! I watched yours and Shane’s review but my burning questions are… 1) How much do these weigh as a set? 2) How tall is the axle from the ground when the baseplate is resting on the ground? I’ve learned that height and weight (and wheelbase offset) make big differences when it comes to doing a lot of skateboard type tricks on a surfskate.
I'm curious how your front foot position is compared to Carver C7? It seemed like it might have a similar feel, but maybe your foot can be closer to the bolts and slightly less dive on hard turns? It looks comparable to the C7 height, too. With those trucks adjustability and options, immediately I'm imagining a quiver of very similarly equipped boards, but each set up for a different purpose. When I first saw the concept I was super hopeful for it. Now that I see the manufacturer is motivated to really make a superior product, they have my attention. Another trustworthy review, my friend. 🤜🤛
@JimmyMacAdventureClub very different feel than the C7. It is smooth and silent like the Curfboard, leans and carves similar to grasp, and flows almost "floaty" like a Swelltech.
Finally a customizable truck! The hanger’s width is so important in skateboarding
My gosh...😮 It's gonna be like waiting for Christmas.. That looks outstanding.
Great review!
Fantastic review. The amount of customization would seem to be a game changer in the world of surfskating.
Great review and I think they will be amazing as well!
I've been so excited about these for a while. The level of modularity and customization was one reason I always stuck with Waterborne. The endless truck, bushing and other combos is awesome for dialing down! Plus how deep that dive is, is addictive!
But these trucks seem to be able to do it all in one, way more compact and lightweight package. Really park friendly too. The axle options rather than swapping trucks, the baseplate options instead of reassembling with angled risers, these are awesome!
I've always been really into modifying and customization, and I think these will bring something special to the industry (and us tinkerers) for sure! So so excited to finally get these on some different boards for testing! 🛹
Another great review thanks Mark 🙏
Looks like another purchase we didn't know we needed!
Can I ask which wheels you are using here please? They look like a good all rounder.
Atb
@bushmonkey877 These were actually prototype versions of the new surfskate love bowl wheels that Steve sent to get my impressions, but these were a softer durometer than the final product. The final version are better I think.
Should be a new champion truck❤
Sounds like an amazing truck would be curious to flip the kingpin and not have the issue at all. Is that possible?
Wah, these look fantastic, great video. When will these be coming out?
I believe the Kickstarter campaign will launch very soon
I've always wondered if someone could design a coper for the kingpin on surfskate trucks. Madrid makes retro copers for their trucks that lock on pretty well.
Lots of tinkerers in the community. Seems like this could keep them busy for a long time 🤔
These trucks look really interesting. Is there any information about when they will go to market?
If you check out Synergyskateboards on instagram, there is aa link to sign up for updates
how is the noise on rough terrain? Love my Curfboard but since the nylon insert bits wore out it's very noisy on rough ground, lots of metal on metal clanging, no bushings. The Synergy has bushings but it also has sphericals, so do they transmit noise more than a CX type truck? The sphericals should make it awfully efficient though.
Also compared to Curfboard, they both have lots of offset so I think they could be very similar in feel, but Curfboard with its unique geometry prevents the deck from tipping over when you lean far to the side; essentially it shifts the pivot axis toward the direction of the lean. The double-pivot trucks do a similar thing. The Synergy doesn't do this, so with its heavy offset does it feel tippy when leaning far?
@madzubmetler I think it is hard to judge on noise. I have fairly hard wheels on them which transmit noise more, and Qwiktruks which add the metal on metal component. The way I have it set up, it does make noise but I couldn't pinpoint it on the trucks. They lean a lot, and I love that, but I know some people like tighter trucks. Not "tippy" in my opinion.
Hey mark my fav set up is curfboard with a lot of wedge risers, are these looser or more stable than that set up you think?
@@spadelump More stable than Curfboard definitely, but pump almost as easy.
@MarktheLandlockedSurfer thanks I have my curfboard at 15inch wheelbase with three wedge risers so it's mega lean and loose so many this will be super stable compared. Lol
Oh dear… another thing I’ll need to buy 🤣
Thx for the review ! However , why is there another voice over than yours ?
I am sick and nasally 🤧
Hello,
I have a question but not for the trucks...
I see in your videos that you really love your whitetail board.
But why are they different from au regular street skate board? They both have nose and tail. I don't see the differences.
Are those board the best board for surfskating in a skatepark? Why?
Thank-you for your videos, they are very valuable to me.
The difference is that this board has the functional shape of a skateboard that is geared for the type of aggressive riding I prefer, while also accommodating a wheelbase that is long enough to give me a proper distance between surfskate trucks. It is rare to find a regular skate deck with greater than 15" wb which greatly limits the options of trucks that would work without feeling too twitchy.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Ok :D now i am here for the trucks hahaha.
They seem good for the skate park and bowl but what do you think about it for crusing. Does it push foward well?
Thank you for all your advices.
What wheels did you use in that curb session?
@misan2 These are actually prototype wheels from when Surfskate Love was experimenting with different durometers for the park wheel.
WHAT IS YOUR BEST SURFSKATE TRUCK FOR TRANSITION
I'm wondering if the metal is more resistant to grinding on coping. I heard it will use titanium?
@rageburst "More resistant" could be good or bad in the context of grinds! Did you mean more durable (good), or grinds poorly because of greater resistance/friction (bad)?
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer I'm just wondering if the hangar is made of something more durable other than the usual aluminum. I would often swap to regular skateboard trucks since I feel they're more disposable than the more pricier surfskate trucks, and I cheat by only going on metal. I haven't grinded on my curfboard yet because they're already so pricey.
Any issues with jackknife?
Never mind you mentioned it in fly outs :-)
@danm2666 Surprisingly no! And you can see in the infinity carve clips how far I am pushing it.
Nice review! I watched yours and Shane’s review but my burning questions are…
1) How much do these weigh as a set?
2) How tall is the axle from the ground when the baseplate is resting on the ground?
I’ve learned that height and weight (and wheelbase offset) make big differences when it comes to doing a lot of skateboard type tricks on a surfskate.
I'm curious how your front foot position is compared to Carver C7? It seemed like it might have a similar feel, but maybe your foot can be closer to the bolts and slightly less dive on hard turns?
It looks comparable to the C7 height, too.
With those trucks adjustability and options, immediately I'm imagining a quiver of very similarly equipped boards, but each set up for a different purpose.
When I first saw the concept I was super hopeful for it.
Now that I see the manufacturer is motivated to really make a superior product, they have my attention.
Another trustworthy review, my friend. 🤜🤛
@JimmyMacAdventureClub very different feel than the C7. It is smooth and silent like the Curfboard, leans and carves similar to grasp, and flows almost "floaty" like a Swelltech.