If you are doing a lot of commuting, the hookworms are a good call. Over broken pavement and even glass, they will be durable. They are heavy but durable. These are definitely on the performance side of things. Thinner and lighter to be faster but odds are they will cut and puncture more easily.
Hookworms are available in a standard weight (for 26", anyway: 26x2.5", IIRC); Lighter fare could be Holy Rollers: 26x2.2" or 26x2.4". All three are great; If you want progressively lighter and less burly: 2.4 & 2.2 HR. IME Holy Roller has better puncture resistance from the thicker knobs, but that could well be circumstantial. Anyway-! Happy riding- Stay safe.
Definitely thicker than Speed Kings in regards to sidewalk and tread thickness. They do have more grams that Speed Kings,but those things are paper thin.
Thanks man!!) Saw these tires in some online stores - never saw them before....looked at the price,at weight, tpi, brand...it tells me a lot! :) Thanks for your measurements! Nice volume. Definitely gonna purchase at least one in the future for my 26" monster cross for rear :> Have a nice day!!
Greath video. How would you compare this tyre with Continental BC Speed King 26x2.2? Cotni is lighter but what about rolling resistance, puncture protection? I run conti tyres on cracked asphalt with hig pressure.
I would say the protection is going to be a bit higher with the Michelin. Mainly due to being thicker in the tread region. Grip wise, probably similar to your Speed King, I know that Black Chili is pretty nice.
I use my 26 mtb as a tourer, mostly on roads. I've been using Conti Speed Kings but theyre discontinued now. I've ordered a set of Conti Contact Urban tyres as a stop-gap but they are wired and therefore heavier. Im not sure i can get a set of 2.3" tyres on my bike but I've ordered some of these Michelins anyway. They look great, and they're light enough. Incidentally, I always lined my Speed Kings with Panaracer Flataway which added almost nothing to their weight and left them as flexible as ever. I'll do the same with the Michelins but ill wait and see if it's necessary for the new Contis.
Good question, as long as the fort is hard packed, these will work. Dust over hard dirt is hard for any tire to grand onto. If your dirt is more natural or just to be safe, Michelin also make a tire called the Pilot Slope which is optimized for dirt.
You could definitely use it on the road. Probably will wear faster than a dedicated touring/commuter tire due to it being made for maximum grip not mileage.
Yes,. I've been using DTH tires for about 4 years on my DJ and BMX race bike. So far these are on the same level of quality and performance. I've had zero issues with either one. They are both amazing tires.
That's a tricky one to call because I never ran them side by side. But rolling resistance wise, the nod goes to the Michelin. Grip, has never been an issue for me at least on either.
@@Skyeward01 To give an example, I have been running pumptrack on 1,35 schwalbe Kojaks... A lot of my riding palls are scared of the grip... but NEVER came across an issue... even in wet conditions... The only thing you need to trade in is comfort. ( Imagine casing with a narrow tyre .. with at least 6 - 7 bars of pressure inside ) Just got these Michelin pumptrack tyres as well. Curious how they will end up
I bought them they are pure asphalt or indoor on dirty asphalft they are awfull and gravel i get 4x punctures on my e bike runnin them on rear,i think hookworms are better and thicker .Just bought michelin country 2.0 for 10euros(cheap gonna do a lot of skids😅😉) gonna try it on my dt swiss fr560 30mm wide rim with 2.3-2.5 tubes for better cornering stability
Ya the Pilot Pump are definitely a race use/performance tire. I do agree that for ebike use the Hookworm will be way better. You can run over broken glass with those.
Currently looks like all suppliers that I know of are out of stock. Bike industry still hasn't recovered from all the factories and supply chains being shut down.
Pilot Pump is the easy winner. Hookworm tires are extremely heavy. It does make a noticeable difference. We ran them in the past and changed tires the same day to see if it was true. Now, Hookworms tires do have their place in the world. The benefit of the heavy tire is that they are almost indestructible. Very good for true urban riding where glass and broken concrete is more of an issue.
Not it is not impossible. Years ago we made many tires and wheels tubeless when they were not designed for it. Maybe I should not say we made them tubeless, I should say we assembled them like tubeless tires. Because the tire bead and probably the rim bead are not designed to be ran tubeless you have an extremely high probability of the tire pulling off of the rim. This is amplified by the higher pressure a DJ bike would use and the hard cornering that will be done. 1 out of 5 stars I would not recommend doing it.
Maybe at the skatepark on a sharp edge. With the high pressure and nature of the riding the tire is going to be doing, flat tires aren't really much of a thing.
How they will be on dirt jumps really depends on the prep work of the dirt at your spot. If it's true prepped hard pack that's been watered and swept you are golden. If it's public access/dusty and rough, it depends on if you are landing tricks or straight landing. Not sure on puncture protection since I always run high pressure and never got something stuck in them.
@@WattOnWheels I have Maxxis DTH and had 10 punctures in 2 years just bad luck and never had issue for dirt jumping only in dry. If anything else you would recommend? That fast rolling for pump track and dry dirt jumps good grip and strong puncture protection as well. I think get Maxxis DTH with EXO protection should help
@@WattOnWheels Yeah just cheaper than pilot pump and dirt more expensive and don’t know what these will be like for puncture protection so I should get DTH with EXO protection
I just bought 2 Maxxi Hookworm for street and commuting. Never new these were out. these are what I want!
If you are doing a lot of commuting, the hookworms are a good call. Over broken pavement and even glass, they will be durable. They are heavy but durable. These are definitely on the performance side of things. Thinner and lighter to be faster but odds are they will cut and puncture more easily.
@@WattOnWheels In canada here i can't find anything but the heavy ones?
Hookworms are available in a standard weight (for 26", anyway: 26x2.5", IIRC); Lighter fare could be Holy Rollers: 26x2.2" or 26x2.4". All three are great; If you want progressively lighter and less burly: 2.4 & 2.2 HR. IME Holy Roller has better puncture resistance from the thicker knobs, but that could well be circumstantial. Anyway-! Happy riding- Stay safe.
how thin are these tires? are they thin like continental speed kings or thicker than those?
Definitely thicker than Speed Kings in regards to sidewalk and tread thickness. They do have more grams that Speed Kings,but those things are paper thin.
Thanks man!!) Saw these tires in some online stores - never saw them before....looked at the price,at weight, tpi, brand...it tells me a lot! :) Thanks for your measurements! Nice volume. Definitely gonna purchase at least one in the future for my 26" monster cross for rear :> Have a nice day!!
That's going to be an awesome tire for that bike.
Greath video. How would you compare this tyre with Continental BC Speed King 26x2.2? Cotni is lighter but what about rolling resistance, puncture protection? I run conti tyres on cracked asphalt with hig pressure.
I would say the protection is going to be a bit higher with the Michelin. Mainly due to being thicker in the tread region. Grip wise, probably similar to your Speed King, I know that Black Chili is pretty nice.
Can it be used with tube? or there will be danger of it coming off the rim
Dislike the loud logos-? Black Sharpie marker applied in even strokes, and re-applied from once or twice per year.
I use my 26 mtb as a tourer, mostly on roads. I've been using Conti Speed Kings but theyre discontinued now. I've ordered a set of Conti Contact Urban tyres as a stop-gap but they are wired and therefore heavier.
Im not sure i can get a set of 2.3" tyres on my bike but I've ordered some of these Michelins anyway. They look great, and they're light enough.
Incidentally, I always lined my Speed Kings with Panaracer Flataway which added almost nothing to their weight and left them as flexible as ever. I'll do the same with the Michelins but ill wait and see if it's necessary for the new Contis.
Sounds like a plan. Let me know how it goes.
hi, I want to buy these tires, but I don't understand, will it be a good idea to ride these tires on dirt jumps, where is a lot of dust.
Good question, as long as the fort is hard packed, these will work. Dust over hard dirt is hard for any tire to grand onto.
If your dirt is more natural or just to be safe, Michelin also make a tire called the Pilot Slope which is optimized for dirt.
Can you use that on road? Or only specified for bike/skate park?
You could definitely use it on the road. Probably will wear faster than a dedicated touring/commuter tire due to it being made for maximum grip not mileage.
Alvin Galut have you tried this in city?
Whats your thoughts on these after a year
No complaints from me for the way I use them. Indoor parks and race track only for me. Especially with the DTH in 2.3 nearly impossible to find.
Any thoughts On how these compare to the DTH?
Yes,. I've been using DTH tires for about 4 years on my DJ and BMX race bike. So far these are on the same level of quality and performance. I've had zero issues with either one. They are both amazing tires.
@@WattOnWheels cool thanks. do you notice much difference in grip or rolling resistance between the two?
That's a tricky one to call because I never ran them side by side. But rolling resistance wise, the nod goes to the Michelin. Grip, has never been an issue for me at least on either.
@@Skyeward01 To give an example, I have been running pumptrack on 1,35 schwalbe Kojaks...
A lot of my riding palls are scared of the grip... but NEVER came across an issue... even in wet conditions...
The only thing you need to trade in is comfort. ( Imagine casing with a narrow tyre .. with at least 6 - 7 bars of pressure inside )
Just got these Michelin pumptrack tyres as well.
Curious how they will end up
I bought them they are pure asphalt or indoor on dirty asphalft they are awfull and gravel i get 4x punctures on my e bike runnin them on rear,i think hookworms are better and thicker .Just bought michelin country 2.0 for 10euros(cheap gonna do a lot of skids😅😉) gonna try it on my dt swiss fr560 30mm wide rim with 2.3-2.5 tubes for better cornering stability
Ya the Pilot Pump are definitely a race use/performance tire. I do agree that for ebike use the Hookworm will be way better. You can run over broken glass with those.
Does anyone have a link to buy the tire I cannot find any
Currently looks like all suppliers that I know of are out of stock. Bike industry still hasn't recovered from all the factories and supply chains being shut down.
Maxxis hookworm or Michelin Pilot pump
Pilot Pump is the easy winner. Hookworm tires are extremely heavy. It does make a noticeable difference. We ran them in the past and changed tires the same day to see if it was true. Now, Hookworms tires do have their place in the world. The benefit of the heavy tire is that they are almost indestructible. Very good for true urban riding where glass and broken concrete is more of an issue.
@@WattOnWheels oh thanks
I am doing some research ...
Cause I dont thing it is impossible to make these tubeless.
Not it is not impossible. Years ago we made many tires and wheels tubeless when they were not designed for it. Maybe I should not say we made them tubeless, I should say we assembled them like tubeless tires. Because the tire bead and probably the rim bead are not designed to be ran tubeless you have an extremely high probability of the tire pulling off of the rim. This is amplified by the higher pressure a DJ bike would use and the hard cornering that will be done. 1 out of 5 stars I would not recommend doing it.
I wish it was offered in a skinny size
What's size do you need?
@@WattOnWheels 26x2.1 :-)
@@aleskelnar1355 it also comes in x1.95
The cons I think it is getting flat tire very often..
Maybe at the skatepark on a sharp edge. With the high pressure and nature of the riding the tire is going to be doing, flat tires aren't really much of a thing.
Will these tyres be enough grip for dirt jumping? I only go when dry conditions also go pump track a lot as well. Plus what puncture protection like?
How they will be on dirt jumps really depends on the prep work of the dirt at your spot. If it's true prepped hard pack that's been watered and swept you are golden. If it's public access/dusty and rough, it depends on if you are landing tricks or straight landing. Not sure on puncture protection since I always run high pressure and never got something stuck in them.
@@WattOnWheels I have Maxxis DTH and had 10 punctures in 2 years just bad luck and never had issue for dirt jumping only in dry. If anything else you would recommend? That fast rolling for pump track and dry dirt jumps good grip and strong puncture protection as well. I think get Maxxis DTH with EXO protection should help
@@robert8077 ok, you'll be fine then on dirt. DTH is what I used for the longest time when I could get 2.3 easily.
@@WattOnWheels Yeah just cheaper than pilot pump and dirt more expensive and don’t know what these will be like for puncture protection so I should get DTH with EXO protection
@@WattOnWheels I’m getting Maxxis DTH tan wall folding ones in 26X2.3 with EXO protection and MaxxPro should be good enough for puncture resistance