PRS Silver Sky SE vs Core Silver Sky - The Five BIGGEST Differences
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- The John Mayer Silver Sky SE and Silver Sky USA Core model are two incredible guitars, but they are very DIFFERENT. Here are the five main differences between the two Strat style guitars.
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Just picked up the SE Model in Piano Black yesterday. First strat style guitar I’ve owned. Looks and sounds great! I played the core model as well but I liked the sound more coming from the SE. Thanks Tom for all the input and reviews on both of them. 😎🎶🎸
Nice! Congrats! They are such different sounds it’s hard to compare the Core and SE!
Many prefer the 2 point trem over the 6 & bigger frets are better. Locking tuners are not overly expensive and can be changed if need be. Thanks for the info.
I bought a red Fiore which i love but always wanted a core silver sky rosewood. When they first came out, i tried 5 different ones in different stores and all were great and very consistent. My problem was i couldn’t decide on the color.
I know. The colors are all so cool. Makes you want them all. I’m still after a Moc Sand or Golden Mesa.
Played them both and was torn between the two. Went with the SE model since it was so much less $$ and absolutely love it. My favorite neck of any guitar I’ve played and I’ve owned multiple high end Fenders.
I agree no doubt the core is better, but is worth all the extra $$$? I bought an se and changed out the plastic tuning keys with locking tuners.
Hi Tom, I own a core model, changed out the pickups with Seymour Duncan Texas hot. For me SD are more my tone preference. Funny thing is I sold the JM pickups for $650. Person who bought them put them in his SS SE. As I am sure you know with PRS running 20% of SE models one can purchase the SE SS for about $650 new.
I'm not surprised they went for that much! They are definitely sought after and most people aren't ripping them out of SS Core models (yet) lol. So, you're ahead of the curve, I think. I like the lower output vibe, but these SE pickups are definitely thicker/hotter and interesting. Would definitely be curious to play your Silver Sky! I'm sure it sounds great. Appreciate you watching.
Did you have to route the body to fit the antiquities in it?
@@RealROCKnROLLA Hey, yes I did, very minor. My guy had a jig created just for this ask I am not the first to request this. He shared one of his customers dropped in a SD 78 HB. Sounded incredible from what I understand.
@@TrevorrNourse thank you for the reply! I'll try a silver sky this weekend and see how I like its stock pups.
@@RealROCKnROLLA Nothing wrong with those stock pickups. I was just going for something else. Love the overall feel of the SS Core vs the SE
I am a bit less sensitive to the more premium esthetics of the core model than I would be when I was beginning to play guitar. To me the SE actually looks beautiful and a fully legit guitar on it's own. Apart from wood and any hardware quality differences possibly the core model is going to have a bit more vintage style electronics but I haven't tested that yet.
Tommy B., Have you ever been to Elderly Instruments, a guitar store in Lansing?
I have! It’s an awesome place. I need to head back soon.
PRS SE sounds louder and more compresed coz pickups little too hot I find.
I lower the pickups, and it sounds even better now. My rule is bottom side 3,4,5mm, treble side 4,5,6 mm pickup height. Now amazing!
I’ll have to try that!
that was a very smart thing to do, good thinking !
The SE bite has more to do with the maple fretboard, dont you think?
Eh, I think it's 90% pickups in this case...maybe 8% fingerboard...2% my inconsistent playing lol
Tom is not responding to these comments, he is busy ripping out the frets and the pickups from the SE right now for his core model 😊
Haha! The thought has crossed my mind.
Also w every ss se model I’ve played makes pedals over drive and way more bass response
Same.
I don't know how to define it, but to me it looks like the core model has a cleaner/sharper sound and "wider" range? The SE sounds a bit muted and the notes a bit mushier? I don't know... that being said, both sound good, specialy considering the price difference. If they sounded the same no one would go for the Core model.
I think “mushy” is somewhat accurate for the SE since it seems to overdrive whatever I plug it into easily. Appreciate you watching!
Both fabulous guitars SE is a Amazing guitar in its own right and has pick shielding to in the body routes down to personal choice is the core worth shelling out the extra £££££££ have to play them side by side both are that good
They need to bring back all the original colors from 2018 like horizon red and onyx! :)
They might! You never know. I hope they make that graphite color JM had awhile back.
Do you think PRS intentionally made them sound different so that the core was unique and the buyers of it wouldn’t be annoyed that the SE was way cheaper but sounded the same?
Maybe? They claim to have tried to get it close, but I suspect that's not exactly what they were intending on doing. One isn't better than the other...just very, very different. The SE model is a much more "hot rodded" kind of sound vs. the vintage, low output Core model...which is what Mayer seems to prefer.
Paying 4 times the price for the core version over the se is nonsense😂
Gotta try them both!
SE is a more playable guitar for more players. Core is an interpretation of a distinct vision of vintage guitar in the modern era. I’ve almost considered grabbing the exact SE you’re playing but can’t really accept the redundancy.
That’s a really great point I haven’t seen anyone articulate clearly. Very well said and I think you’re right on. That really encompasses all of the differences and the “why” behind them.
@@TomButwin hey thanks! Right, the 'why' totally makes sense! If you think of a new player picking up the core there's no way they way they're gonna vibe with those super narrow frets (which I've come to love), or that chonky neck. Honestly, even todays' core Silvery Skies are apparently more aligned with John's blk1 in terms of pickups. Whether you love it or hate, that 2018 Silver Sky was no comprising vision for modern appointments. SE is almost more refined in the sense it just kind of serves more people.
Bigger frets for the win.
I’ve recently come to the same conclusion.
Give me a core model now!
We should make a video about a RUclips giving another RUclipsr a guitar!
I think the sound is pretty much how they claimed it to be. The core sounds like a vintage Fender, that's why it was created, the SE sounds like a PRS that tries to sounds like the core model. Very intentionally made different.
…And I really like them both!
@@TomButwin Me too, from what I have heard of them. I'm yet to play the core model, do you think the difference in feel is substantial enough to actually pay 3x?
I want to like the silver sky. I’m trying to get a cup of the PRS koolaid but Paul makes it tough for me. They just do mind boggling things. For example: the fb radius. What playing musician in 2023 wants to play a 7.25” fretboard radius on a $3000 strat? It’s 2023. It blows my mind that this doesn’t have a much flatter fretboard or at least a compound radius like 9-12”. I have a Fender CS POMO with a compound radius and 1/2 blender w/ greasebucket 2 wiring that lets you add in the nck pickup in positions 1&2 for a tele on roids kind of thing, and it has handwound pickups. There is no force on this earth that would make me want to jump to a 7.25” radius with generic wiring.
Wasn’t the whole point of PRS as a company to improve on what the big 2 were doing to make more sense for a musician?
Paul. I know you’re crazy enough to read comments on PRS oriented videos:
Why in the fk would you use a 7.25” radius? Is this guitar for the beach boys? This is JM’s guitar- why would anyone ever play dead jams with a 1954 style fretboard? We need flatter fretboards today. I’ll keep my custom shop for now. I’m kind of feeling the SE hollowbody II piezo though ngl
I have a video on the SE HB II! Check it out: ruclips.net/video/t881XC9Ynpw/видео.htmlsi=310QJCsm4wuxd2Cd I don't find the 7.25" radius to be distracting at all, honestly. I'm not a super shredder type player, so 9.5 or 7.25 or 10"...doesn't matter really to me. I like them all for different things at different times, but don't find that any of them are particularly prohibitive. I WISH Paul read my comments lol! Actually, maybe not. Sometimes the comment section is a mess. Appreciate you watching.
@@TomButwin NP. Just to clarify- I can play a strat with “7.25 radius- it wouldn’t stop me from playing a silver sky- but it definitely is keeping me from shelling out $2500 for one, uk? The lack of options forcing you to accept a straight 7.25” radius - it’s just not what I would expect from PRS let alone being the only thing they offer on the SS. Perfect example- when Gibson jumped on the Strat train and started doing stratty models back in the 1980’s even ancient Gibson knew that modern players (even 30 years ago) wanted flatter faster fretboards. I’m not a shredder either- but once I started playing compound radius and/or flatter fretboards it just feels weird to play a 7.25”. It’s too round. Lets break it down to basics- “7.25 radius are for playing chords. Paul can’t be so out of touch with reality to know that nowadays folks expect a flatter radius down the neck. Also most folks who want a JM signature guitar aren’t playing jangly rhythm stuff.
It’s just one of those baffling things that I can’t understand. I was looking at the dead spec silver sky on SW and comparing to the se and core and I was shocked that only “7.25 exists.
@@WithCarePlz All I can say is, the SS was based on JM’s ‘64 Strat and I know they did some “blind” testing of different radius’s. He always chose the 7.25” and he certainly does more than playing chords. I think the lack of options is just because of the signature guitar thing. For what it’s worth, the SE Silver Sky is way cheaper, still a great guitar, and has a 9.5” board!
@@TomButwin yeah I messed that up the SE does have a 9.5. And of course a great player can play on anything functional, but that doesn’t mean we don’t prefer certain playability things. The SS SE is a fantastic deal no doubt about it. But for me as a player I can make anything work and sound like me, but that doesn’t mean I want to. Uk?
I prefer American made guitars. I just find myself enjoying them more and being more inspired by them. But for me personally when I’m used to playing a custom shop strat that has a compound radius it’s hard to want to spend around 3K for a strat that doesn’t have a nice flatter fretboard and isn’t relic’d, doesn’t have the neck pickup tie in thing. I can’t be the only one. Certainly the SE is a good value and it’s selling like hotcakes.
My point in the end isn’t to be negative. It’s basically to say that I would expect PRS to have playability features more in mind- like a compound radius fretboard or 7 way wiring. Instead they seem to be just making old style strats with birds on them. Uk?
I’m trying to be positive though so I’d say it like this. I think paul would make a nice little chuck if he offered a silver sky USA that had a compound radius and offered the ability to tie in neck on positions 1 and 2.
I can still play on whatever but if I was gonna drop 3k on a strat from someone other than fender that isn’t relic I’d expect them to do something extra like try and improve the design. It’s just shocking to me that PRS would be like: “hey we’re PRS, a company that started from trying to combine gibson and fenders good ideas while making them more playable and modernizing playability features- here have an old strat with old specs with birds on it and a 2 point trem like fender used in the 90’s- enjoy folks”
Idk if I’m explaining what I mean well, but it’s just kind of an odd look.
The silver sky SE doesn’t get a pass from me either bcuz if we’re being honest people like Sire make a superior strat for that price point. Sire’s have the most comfortable rolled fretboards I’ve ever felt and they’re made with superior materials like roasted swamp ash or roasted maple. So even the SE doesn’t intrigue me uk?
Nice video though I’m not trying to knock you or your opinions in any way I just think for the usa silver sky price it makes more sense to get a used fender custom shop with nice playability feAtures and old vibe, and for the SE price something like a Sire or even a squier classic vibe at half the price makes more sense uk?
I own both. If you think the differences are "massive" and "shocking", then I have no idea...can not imagine... what your idea of "small" is. Lol.
I’ve got both too…the neck and pickups alone aren’t even close lol.
SE is better if you don't have money. US Core is worth it.
Who cares seriously
Cue "Everybody Hurts" by REM. Cut me deep.
Exactly who cares no believes these RUclipsr anyway many of them caught in their lies
Me
I do.
@@BloodlessGaming64 I don't care either
Do you think PRS intentionally made them sound different so that the core was unique and the buyers of it wouldn’t be annoyed that the SE was way cheaper but sounded the same?