The Nature of Flow- with Ahmed Aldoori
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
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CONGRATS ON 20,000 SUBS
thats another delusion right?
60000!!!!!
Okay fine, I'll subscribe.
yes, do it sinix :D
this is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels on youtube
Name a more iconic duo. This is like the Drafstmen podcast on edibles. Proko and Marshall better watch out!
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The flow is like a sneak-peek into enlightenment.
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Congratulations my man you deserve it
always love listening to these while I draw
This podcast is great, it helped a lot to think about things different and on a different perspective. I'm someone who always tells them self to "This is bad, make it better" or "It has to be perfect", but in reality perfection is just an illusion, it's something we just compare it to and trying to reach this perfect outcome is simply impossible, and the end result will be disappointment. This is something I've struggled with many years, not just in art but in many different things, trying to reach the impossible. Be it in a presentation, socially interacting with people and trying to say something that is 100% right, and choosing the perfect words and creating a complicated sentence that no one understands, and at the end of the day I will fail to be perfect and the outcome will be stress and delusional embarrassment. Trying to be perfect makes in my opinion yourself delusional and will hinder you in one way and another.
is it just me or does med look jacked holy shit look at those guns man
Why do I coincidentally see you everywhere now 👁️👁️
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clash of the big brains.
Congrats!! Steven. Glad to see you guys talking in a same room. brings back memories
Miss yah bud. Hope to visit you in Hawaii some day soon.
I can't even begin to express how happy I am that I found and listened to this conversation. Earlier today, I was trying to describe the mindset I'm in when taking photographs at the fairs and you've explained it so perfectly here. Every time I hear you talk, it's as if I'm hearing all the thoughts from my own mind that I've been unable to articulate over the years. I wish I had friends like you in my life =)
Thank you for all that you do!
Nice! Thanks Earth. Always cool to hear how flow is available in all disciplines
Cant wait for more of these
Love love love hearing you two converse.
What a great time I had listening to both of you, thanks for cheering us up with this so damn natural conversation.
I can imagine grandpa steven zapata being a damn sage in the art community.
I Really liked that you guys looked at other ways to get into Flow! (Dancing, Music) and i recognized a lot about your descriptions of Flow in my personal life. not only as an artist but also as an amatuer Boxer. I only recently have been able to get into a Flow state during sparring. It's gotten to a point where my body Moves and reacts on it's own and my mind is just here for the Ride. for me personally there needs to be three components to achieve flow. familarity, concentration and commitment. familarity and concentration in the beginning stages and commitment until the very end (that last part is super easy when in flow). It takes a lot of time and practise (especially the familarity part). One thing that helped me a lot was somebody telling me:
"when the thoughts Rush in, don't react to them. Let them flow by and Concentrate on the task at Hand."
I would describe the state of not reacting to your thoughts like this:
It's like Hearing chitter Chatter from the Radio in the background and you are not even listening in on the Words. so it's just sound that you hear but you're not really paying attention to it. Instead you're doing something else like reading a really interesting Newspaper article, draw a scribble or eat a Sandwich, i dunno.
Beautiful audio/video! Thanks Steven and Ahmed!
Ah yes the Flow theory. From a Psychological researched point of view, it is where your competence/skills are met with a difficulty which is neither too hard nor too easy. Anybody can "reach" the flow state, but as you gain more skill, your need for difficulty raises to "achieve" the state of flow.
When in flow, you forget time and your physical location. As the only thing that exist in the moment is you and what you are doing.
This subject is well discussed within game development too.
Thanks for reading my wall of text.
and... thanks, for drawing today, Steven.
Love from Denmark.
Gonna have to keep reminding myself to watch this video from time to time because I fall into a lot of traps you two often speak of.
Thanks to both of you for this beautiful talk
43:20 #nomakeup #noreference #wokeuplikethis #izidrawing #haveimentionedthatididnotneedreferenceforthisoneomglikeforreal
Fantastic points on the topics of worshipping the work of our heroes and idiosyncratic mastery. Thoroughly enjoying diving into these older conversations and art talks on the channel, Steven. Thank you.
In regards to the reference and having the reference, I remember that in Orhodox christianity, there was a word for a sin, which is in translation in english, actually a "delusion"".
What I meant to say is that, being in that little bubble and playing that little game of not using references, creates a delusion in a person''s mind where the actual rules of creating are relative , relevant and irrelevant at the same time.
The thing is with me personaly. how I found my peace inside the digital drawing, is that when I paint I jump from rhytmical texturing , back to painting the overall image. This way, I create a diverse workflow where I dive in the pool of creative energy (abstract forms) and come back to proceed to paint. This style of work really keeps me up on the image for a whole day.
By the way, I came from the video on secret skill, and I must say I haven't seen as friendly and as understanding video for an artist since youtube came up.
Thanks
I love these physical chats face to face.
very good talk! im still listening to it and just getting to the part of "using ref = cheating"
i feel like i should confess that i feel that, when I use ref, im being dishonest with someone. I just feel this way about my art and no one elses. That im deceiving someone when i use ref. Weird mentality i know, but idk, maybe others felt like this once
Hi! I'm feeling like this from time to time as well. You're not alone. :D
Love it all! But also recognize the years and years of study and practice these men have had in order to inform and rely on while in the flow. It’s not always as simple as just letting go and seeing what happens
At 10:35, when Steven says “you almost forget you’re you” it reminds me of a sort of channeling. I watched an video with Shia lebouf and Kristen Stewart just asking each other questions and talking about acting and it seems their “flow” is almost like a sudden possession of sorts. Pretty interesting
awesome guys !
29:00 the funny part is there are some people that actually act painfully so in public or even new people to dance/physical acting my mom gives movement lessons to singers and there are new people who seem to move very robotic and calculated with no flow or gesture to their movements at all, accurate but not pretty to look at.
I think as an artist you're trying to get to a point where you draw without slow and calculated/robotic movements instead you'd use free flowing natural movements with tempo, but still maintaining high accuracy.
Some really great thoughts! Liked the touching on mindfulness. No clue why I’ve never tried applying those ideas to art before. Thanks for this!
Amazing convo. Please more!
You never know when or how it's going to hit or even what it really feels like, but when your in flow you know you're in flow. Like today. I didn't feel like drawing today, even though I wanted to. And I felt badish but whatever it happens. But right before bed I was looking at an older sketch book and the switch flipped and I spent over 2 hours touching up and fixing olderish drawings. Almost re doing some. Flipping through, thinking I have to put this here, and touch that up there, and oh aww that looks good. Next thing I know it's way past bed time lol.
Sooo so glad I found this podcast, and your channel in general. Love listening to it while making art . Such an inspiration for an aspiring artists and video makers like me!! I’m sure you will help hundreds of ppl around the globe see art from a healthier,broader perspective . Thankyou !!
What a comfy space
As always, thanks for the content Steven
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Well, amazing how RUclips suggests this video a day after I discuss flow in my most recent video - and you use the dance analogy as well
I take it we experience flow very similarly Ahmed - I love hearing you speak these words as well (ironically 2 years before I publish mine)
Feel free to accuse me of copying, I have zero means to defend myself now lol
Ah, how can you be copying when this feeling has always been around and artists have always treasured it? We always need more people pointing artists towards flow.
Some quote to Kim Jung Gi and other big ones (I don't know who said it an if I put it correct): 'Following the steps of all big masters do not forget to leave your own footprints.'
THX Steven for the podcast and this channel!
Loving this! great talk.
The nature of flow? 15:50 Getting in the zone occurs at any level of draftsman skills. I had a goal to draw a tree from memory. Not a specific tree, just the essence of trees, independent of fixation on whether it is maple, pine or palm.
For about a month I stared at trees. Photographed their pieces and textures, their branching patterns. Their leaf shapes. Noticing similarities and which way they grew following the sun or giving sway by wind. At month’s end, i set to letting that “tree” flow from all i experienced. It felt meditative, calm but still exciting. It flowed out because my brain mind had collected all that could be tree.🌲 🌳 🌴 or patterns. It looked like a tree. It was not an geometric or scribbled abstraction. It was realistic generalization of all the tree stuff my mind had absorbed. I was concerned only that i let it happen. I judged only to do the skill-related: its form within the space of my canvas, on a hill, under the sun, washed over by a blue sky. Nothing about a grand mastery.
- And ever since, i can pull a tree from my mental catalogue. I use this immersive experience to capture other things. I think i tend to do this because i once drew from Dynamic Anatomy front to back for 30 days. I was shocked at how much i had improved compared to my first week. That taught me how to draw better but also that practice also stores things in a person’s brain.
To me, flow is all the connections i discovered between all the aspects of drawing, mental and physical.
People ask when i’m drawing from imagination or freeform scribble, what is that. And then i tell them i don’t yet know.
19:58 Oh, those tangents. Made me laugh. Thanks for an amazing talk! I'm listening to it while drawing. Though perhaps I shall turn the video off to get into that flow state. ;D
It is better to only focus on drawing but I also got in flow while listening to stuff on youtube as well.
Wasn't expecting the part about AI, would be interesting to watch another episode with Ahmed where you expand on the subject a little more amongst other things.
Also excellent video, really enthralling topics and very well presented.
i love this
One of the best channels I have seen a long time
btw you rock that hoodie ahmed
Guys, I like art and illustrations but this conversation needs some green on the side and some baroque music classic hip-hop mix. Cool conversations!
Holy moly 20k when did that happen 😱😱
is it possible to learn that power 27:15? And isnt it holding back your groth if you dont experience failure
I learned it! And you would still "experience" failure in that mindset, you just wouldn't attach to it personally- which I don't think is needed for growth. There's a difference between calmly acknowledging you failed and living like you're failing. Don't you think the vast majority of artists trying to improve are experiencing failure with great regularity? They're certainly not guaranteed continued growth just because of that.
Fuck yeah dude.
anyone know the name of the story about alien poetry that they talk about
It’s a short story from “To hold up the sky” by Cixin Liu
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- Grogu
Did you see that part of the video where they say "confirmation bias" "that's right" and Grogu looks at the void while thinking of the implications of speaking up and decides to remain silent? How rude.
hey steven! been a while since i requested your oh so royal artist in the industry attention. but i had to pose this question since it bothers me so, when im in the flow the main thing i struggle with due to my background in fine arts is my conscious self stepping in and saying im not experimenting enough, normally when im in the zone i get comfortable and i do what i know to do best. is there a way to merge the flow state with this experimental urge to find new ways of drawing and finding something new while at the same time totally confortable with whats happening? thanks congrats on 20 k
You should indeed be able to merge those things. It's not about "what" your mind is interrupting with, it's that you're giving too much energy to the interruption at all.
where is that espresso footage!!!!
Niceeeee
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I can attest that you do not need to be good to enter flow state.
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Here's a topic. How to feel positive about art in a world full of "fake" artists.
Do you guys know Dr Joe Dispenza teachings, research and books? Think it could be interesting for you!
i like the guy on the lefts points... but guy on the right seems kinda out of it.
HI ROBBIE
No mask?