Periphery's Signature Pickups Comparison (Omega,Titan,Ragnarok,The Juggernaut)
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Sentient Glow (Full Mix)
0:13 Seymour Duncan / Omega
0:24 Dimarzio / DP259 Titan
0:34 Bare Knuckle Pickups / Ragnarok
0:43 Bare Knuckle Pickups / The Juggernaut
Icarus Lives (Full Mix)
0:57 Seymour Duncan / Omega
1:06 Dimarzio / DP259 Titan
1:15 Bare Knuckle Pickups / Ragnarok
1:23 Bare Knuckle Pickups / The Juggernaut
Sentient Glow Guitar Track (No Processing)
1:36 Seymour Duncan / Omega
1:46 Dimarzio / DP259 Titan
1:55 Bare Knuckle Pickups / Ragnarok
2:05 Bare Knuckle Pickups / The Juggernaut
Icarus Lives Guitar Track (No Processing)
2:17 Seymour Duncan / Omega
2:26 Dimarzio / DP259 Titan
2:34 Bare Knuckle Pickups / Ragnarok
2:43 Bare Knuckle Pickups / The Juggernaut
Gear I used
・GrassRoots G-HR-55FX
・GHS BOOMERS GB-LOW Low Tuned(Drop C)
・GHS BOOMERS GB7MH 7-STRING - Medium Heavy(Drop G#, not in use 1st strings)
・Joey Sturgis Tones Toneforge Misha Mansoor
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Guitas DI track w/ download link
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Even though the difference is very subtle over all, I think I lean more toward the Omega.
the only great comparison i even heard between those djenty pickups !!! thank you !!!
the difference in pickup tone is so subtle
Plugins...
@Matheus Zalenski like you said, this video is using toneforge. It sounds nothing like a real amp and probably won't pick up (pun unintended) the subtle differences in sound between each set.
@@Matheuszalenski i am. . . yeah those dang plugins ! love em or hate em.
I can tell a huge difference even with the plug-ins, it's astronomical.
I find that pickups that are voiced around the same general idea tend to be like that. Just sounds the same. If you're playing the different ones however, you FEEL the difference.
They fuck about with their signal so much after it leaves the guitar that the pickups mean very very little and this comparison proves it.
I'm not gonna pretend like I can hear any difference at all between any of these
to me, the juggernaut and omega sounded almost exactly the same and were my favorite sounding ones, thanks for this comparison man
Agreed! They cut best through the mix as well.
Weird how Sentient Glow is a Mark riff but the Titans sound the most like the original recording.
They use each other’s guitars when recording. Mark recorded some of his parts with Misha’s Jackson , it’s on one of their documentaries.
It's a Mark riff, but that doesn't mean he was the only one tracking the riff on the record. I think it was him or Misha that said in an interview that Mark and Misha are panned hard left and right, while Jake is panned dead center
@@wfe06 that’s their live setup... don’t think this applies to the records
I think the answer is in the mix! When mixing, an emphasis is placed on the mids, which are the frequencies where guitars predominate.
The Titans, due to their materials and manufacturing objective, are focused to highlight the mid frequencies.
I will preface what I'm about to say by acknowledging that the pickups more than likely sound/feel different when played live. However, in a mix the differences aren't really discernable. I think this video proves that good quality pickups, regardless of brand, will net great results.
This video has made me realize how much I don't need to spend on pickups :D
More distortion more PU sound the same..........
True. But it's great upgrading from stock pick ups if you use low mid class guitar lol
@@firmans12 ..as I do always...
False. its the plugins. If you use tube or solid amps (not digital) and mic your speakers and cabs like a true genius.
The Titan sounds so wide & HUGE. Love that.
Great comparison, thank you! I'm going to try the DI tracks too, I really appreciate this.
After listening to these through studio monitors, can confirm the most that’s going on is Bass Low Mid changes and different boosts in high end.
Half tempted to rip the audio to evaluate the EQ curves but I think it’d be kind of a bust since these aren’t DI’s.
The differences are subtle, but noticeable. The Seymour Duncan sounded pretty great, Dimarzio did a decent job, Ragnarok had crazy clarity, and the Juggernauts seemed oddly muffled...
Ragnaroks or the Duncans for me, and moreso the former!
been the juggernaut guy for more than five years now. haven't been dissapointed once haha
I’m kinda shocked people aren’t picking up on the differences in the sounds. Ragnaroks and Juggs are much chuggier and bassier where is titans and omegas are a lot warmer. Think Omegas sound the best all round. Ragnaroks sound great drop C. Juggs sound best at lower tunings followed by the ragnaroks.
Out of the mix, you're right
But in the mix?
@@korayem I was able to tell instantly without headphones for the mix and put of mix versions. Guess I’ve been able to pick up certain things recently
@@adamcogan211 awesome man
For me I couldn't until the video compared tone solo and heard it clearly
On the fence between BK and Fishman but BK is a lot or variety so trying to shortlist
Juggernaut is mostly my final choice but wanted to check
Any idea how does Juggernaut stand against Aftermath? Cause those come pre-installed in many guitar brands
The omega has the least amount of low end by far of the group which makes sense as they are speced out and EQed like that. The Rag's have the fattest warmest tone of the bunch and are also the hottest. They were the ones that stood out the most in and out of the mix for me and would be the pickup I would choose for my guitar personally.
I love the ragnaroks on everything in and out of the mix. Misha and BKPs know how to build a pickup lmao
Amazing work!! The difference is not too much, but sure with more experiment, one should understand what to go with
Juggz are the greatest pickups i have ever heard in my life... Greetings dude
Thanks for doing this, sick comparison! I'm trying to decide between the Juggs and the Rags. The Juggernauts seem to have a bit more of an upper mid range bump over the Ragnaroks. However the Ragnaroks seem to be a bit more focused with less chub. What do you think?
i agree. not a huge difference though. you could get the same tone either way just by messing with the eq
Rags for me had the fattest sound of the bunch and would be my choice for sure.
The Rags seem to have a nice presence boost in the high mids like the Jugs, that sets them apart from the others in the mix context. But they also have all the thick, weight for the single notes and chugging. To my ears, the Rags would be the fastest to mix in full band context. They seem to be harmonically richer than the rest but not loose, boomy or congested in the 200-450Hz range that blankets so many pickups under saturated dense mixes. That said, I love them all!
If I'm being honest, I like the Seymour Duncan Alpha and Omega pups and that Dimarzio Titan.
And I've been wanting a set of rags or jugs for awhile too.
I bought one of Marks PRS and I LOVE the Seymour set.
I don't know man....I guess it's just me wanting it all lol.
I have a Jackson Juggernaut HT-6 Pro that I've added a Hipshot bridge and tuners too, but need decent pups for.
I put the Titan set in my juggernaut they sound great. Be warned tho if you go with covered titans you will need to open up the pickup cavity’s just a little bit on the corners to get the Dimarzio to fit into the guitar
Any chance you could make the DI tracks available? Then we could re-amp and really explore the differences with our rigs?
I see, I'll prepare a file with just the DI tracks next time, so please wait a bit.
Fantastic riff choices, The mix really drowns out the subtle differences, but solo'd the omega and ragnarok sound super similar. The juggerenaut sounds like it pickups up more harmonics on the low end( in the good way). Funny how different companies can achieve similar results for these guys.
The alpha and omega sound good and super tight
Omega definitely shines on chords clarity, suiting considering Mark's style. Sounds the best on Sentient Glow but sounds kinda weak on Icarus imo.
Ragnarok sounds huge and aggressive, capturing lots of freq range though with emphasis on certain mid tone.
Juggernaut sounds tight, clean, and bouncy, definitely strong in the mid region. Sounds the best on Icarus imo.
Titan doesn't really shine on any example but it kinda works on all. Maybe the most versatile?
Any chances of doing these experiments again but on clean sections? Luck as a Constant or something like that.
Thanks for the amazing vid.
The titan and the ragnarok have an insane mid range sound, love that.
Titan and Ragnarok are the best IMO
How come Misha and Mrak’s pickups are named after periphery songs and Jake has mirage and titan’s?
Gotta say I just got a set of titans installed in my pro series juggernaut and they’re killer pickups 10/10 highly recommend
i'm wondering what the differrence between titan and omega is. I hear that titans are bit darker. but for my ears it is negligible. the price difference is big though. do they respond differently as well? Both BKP are fairly distinguishable from those two and also from each other.
I found the Omega to be brighter sounding than the Titan.
Titan also seems to have a bit more depth.
@@surroundingsstudios2596 cool, i'm looking for good articulation for big chords. which i believe all these pickups will do. did you happen by ani chance to try out BKP silo? because Rabea's playstyle is often filled with massive chords.
The SILO seems to be the clearest and best sounding pickup I own.
I have the SILO in my Suhr guitar and I am very happy with it.
@@surroundingsstudios2596 then i may have a winner :D
@@vitkosek8949 I'd recommend Fishman Fluence Tosin Abasi Signatures for huge chords and clean articulation. The SILO's are also extraordinary for that. Both are comparable in terms of quality, but the SILO's seem to have a slight bit better chord articulation (only slightly) while the Fishmans have better clarity overall. Honestly, when you compare them without mixing or anything, the Fishmans sound like a master guitar track and the BKP SILO's sound like just a really good raw tone.
with fresh ears I can hear how mids and highs are changing depending on a pickup. Yeah it's not 50%, but it's there around 10 %
But also bear in mind these pickups are just an excuse for selling signature products... The guys could just use random 30 buck ceramic pickups from GFS and still would nail the tone lml
Awesome man. Searched a lot for similar comparison on the tubes to decide what to buy.
Did they all go through exact same signal chain with same settings/presets or you had a target tone and with each pickup you tried to make the tone close to it?
The bass sounds amazing!
juggernaut for the win and second is the omega
Yep, omega and ragnarok 🔥🔥
I usually don’t post comments nor do I know your setup but in my professional audio setup that I can hear a pin drop in an orchestra mix… I can’t hear a single differentiating thing
I had the 7 sting Omega in the bridge. It has a very distinct lack of low end. So I didn't vibe with it, and put my Black Winter back in.
i don't think this clip does justice to the pickups imo, i played all of them besides the ragnaroks, and they all sound different, in feel and tone, they sound better in different amps and with different pedals imo
juggernauts - probably the best sounding of them all, easy to play on, quite aggressive and midrangey, some people say they are honky but i don't think so, they have a nice roar to them when playing chords
alpha/omega - the palm mutes are sooooo pleasing, chunky, they have this depth to them, cleans are aenemic with decent split, careful with the high end as they can get pretty brittle
titan set - my favourite for my playing style, versatile, nice musical palm mutes, it shares a lot in common with the juggernauts, and can get very brutal when you dig in enough, perfect for leads and clean stuff
Juggernaut are total win. So clear defined attack.
guys IDK about you but my god those seymour duncans sound the best in my ears. Jakes on the other hand sound the worst...But of course all of these pickups sound GREAT. We are just looking for tiny differences. But IDK Mark`s set sounded like they had the full package. Modern mids but also that nice high end that isn`t piercing and has this nice melodic tone.
Not a fan of how the Titans sound at all but they must work for where his guitar sits in a live/album setting
what about the aftermath compared with these also? afterall it started it all.
can you tell me the amp settings!
its truly sad when in the mix of the band there is not enough difference to say one or the other because they were all based off of one pickup of some sort and everyone made their version and its not enough difference to do this .. now guitar alone maybe !!
Almost the same in the mix. Guitar isolated are somewhat different and for sure under your fingers they react differently, but still the price gap is too huge.
I can clearly hear that the Ragnarok and Juggernaut have slightly more Mid than the Titan or Omega.
I hardly noticed the difference ... it is much more noticeable that someone here needs the right tabs for sentient glow 😜
if its in the mix like thqat u wont hear any diffrence maybe try raw tones instead when ur comparing pickups pretty sure a dimareio paf would have done the same without makijng any diffrence in the mix
The subtle is different is from the amp.
I'm sure the DI sound way more different each other. At least that what i learned from watching pick up comparison with DI lol.
But in the end its the amp tone you'll using.
They sounds almost the same expecially in the mix the differences are negligible. I own the titans. Good all around pickups. Titan neck Is a sort of modern Paf
how's the Titan for e standard 6 string?
They're gorgeous for 6 string.
what was the EQ ?
to me, 2 pickups are the best: 1 The Juggernaut and 2 Omega
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I think that two bare knuckles and titan is similar but omega is different. I like omega more!
Ragnarok has more punch and is more louder. It's hard to choose between Ragnarok and Juggernauts.
I think the most differential one is Mark's
Pls, upload diference with a solo
There are differences between the two, but they are all very slight.
I hear a difference between the pickup covers.
Titan sound good in my taste. i like it sound when u bend it
Omega
After listening carefully i like the ragnaroks best, they are most powerful and sound pretty detailed too. The titans are softer than i thought and the juggs sound like s*it here
Damn...I put the Titans in my Ibanez. Sadly they sound the worst of the bunch😕
How would you rank them?
They are all great, but my personal favorite is Juggernaut.
@@surroundingsstudios2596 I like them they are just ridiculously expensive
I prefer Dimarzio because they have more color options 🤣
Djent music makes them all sound the same. Only the Omega sounded a little less muddy. You needed to play more variety and forget about the mix: the other instruments make all of them identical.
Anyone who says they here a difference is full of shit. They sound identical in a mix, no one would be able to pick them in a blind test.