FURY in the Commons | Speaker Lindsay Hoyle's position hangs in the balance over Gaza ceasefire vote
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2024
- Fury has erupted in the Commons as Speaker of the House Lindsay Hoyle is accused of changing the rules in the Commons amid a key vote on calling for a ceasefire in Gaza.
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No wonder our country is in such a bloody mess
That started with Blair.
But these cowards WILL NOT attend a debate about Excess Deaths that have "nothing to do with the jibby jabby".
Thatcher@@johntooth1886
@@johntooth1886 started with Winston ‘let’s fight the Germans’ Churchill.
@@johntooth1886Time to move on
WTF are they doing even spending time on this garbage?
They are in the Commons to serve the BRITISH people,NOT those 3000 miles away.
We have enough crap going on that needs sorting out at home.
Well said 👏
Don't be so ridiculous
This is over Iran sending in troops because of jheris expansion.
They've also expanded into our land.
We keep importing those from 3000 miles away against the will of the people, they are causing some problems!
Hammas yousless up in Scotland keeps spitting his dummy out over this issue, seeing as his wife is from over there. No conflict of interest at all from Mr Scotland is too-huwite. Sheesh
WHY are our politicians NOT CONCENTRATING ON OUR PROBLEMS? Instead of trying running another land thousands of miles away !
The world is interlaced, we trade with whole world. The world invests money in the UK? We are not one nation we are a world.
@@localreviewking134because they don't serve people like you and I, they serve Israel
@@teefx5681 Maybe, perhaps one of the few countries which work with the West in that area. We sell weapons to the Saudis too. Jordan is a friend of the UK. I do not see Israel as running the world either. Deals are made by some MPs sometimes just for the money and not for the people.
Brown envelopes
I call for an English parliament for the English to deal with English issues.
You have that.
@@kevonslims7269r u blind
I call for disbanding the provincial parliaments.
Wait so you want devolution?
No way - that is abolishing the Union. Abolish Devolution.
Our politicians should stop back biting over other countries and sort the uk out first
They are the one who started this go do your research in history
I love how we think we are important enough to influence Israel and our silly stupid MPs would rather argue about a foreign land than about stuff happening here at home.. they should be ashamed
I agree completely because while our MPs have been wasting time arguing over amendments regarding wording over a ceasefire /humanitarian pause... the Knesset in Israel have actually voted themselves against the establishment of a Palestinian state. And ironically it happened while our MPs were debating so isn't it crystal clear that Israel will not even blink at a vote by the house of commons.
It shows how ridiculous we are and that our MPs are just full of self importance when in reality the world barely even notices. What a joke MPs should be sorting out homegrown issues and leave Israel and its genocide to the ICJ which is also sitting today listening to debate on occupation and other breaches of international law.
So why is Britain refusing to vote for a ceasefire in the UN, why is Britain helping Israel from its base in Cyprus and why nine Israeli Air Force planes have taken off and landed in the UK since the bombing of Gaza began?
Exactly !
Britain is responsible for the mess in palestine. The colonial legacy of the empire.
They started this whole mess! Maybe if they weren’t colonizing pos …💁🏼♀️🤭
No wonder the country is in such a mess.
He mentioned the opposition a few times, I’d like to ask is WHAT OPPOSITION !
That would be Andrew Bridgen surely...?
What government more like!😂
In a couple of months labour will be in charge and the liberal democrats will be the opposition.
He's the opposition!
So it is the SNP Opposition Day and instead of putting forward and debating issues that affect Scotland (that something can be done about) the SNP prefer to debate a Gaza ceasefire (that nothing can be done about).
Virtue signalling at its best.
I think that you miss the point. Health, education, transport, housing, etc in Scotland are dealt with by the Scottish Parliament, not the Westminster Parliament. The Westminster Parliament does, however, debate matters of international interest.
SNP should be disbanded. What good have they done?
Nah virtue signalling is when people buy poppies to show support to veterans instead of donating directly so they would get 100% of the donation.
@@mikeryan3701 But this is the SNPs day - there's plenty of Scottish matters which are reserved which ought to be discussed not international interest.
@@mikeryan3701 There's nothing we can do about a ceasefire thousands of miles away. The people of Britain care about our country.
I will say what I said in my country, I am Belgian, no country has any business what a country does to get its kidnapped people back, what are you trying to do there in England? Hamas does not want a ceasefire so you want to force Israel to do something that the other party Hamas does not want, What is the POINT?
I'm always surprised that suddenly everyone comes from Gaza, calls themselves Palestinian and suddenly thinks it's sad..... The anti-Semitic oozes through... Btw I also said that in my country, but in my country that nonsense is quickly put to rest
@@sannywicca7504
Kinda like you all suddenly to have Jewish friends…..but not a Muslim friend between you 😂
Your country is greater Germany.
Thank you Sir.
@sannywicca7504 England, unlike Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland does not have a parliament of its own. This is the UK Parliament and it should be noted that one of these bills/motions/amendments is from the Scottish Nationalist Party, whose MPs are entirely from Scotland.
Westminster not furious about the shambolic migrant chaos.
Get a life
@kevonslims7269 get a brain.
you should have noticed by now, that the migrant issue is exactly what the elite want, if not, it wouldnt be happening all over the western world, infact all the world, except one place, can you guess what place?
Would be beneficial if they spent time U.K matters, as if Israel is going to take any notice what happens in parliament. It is just a ploy to divert from the reality of what needs to be done.
Is the S.N.P tail wagging the dog
The SNP should have put this before their Assembly first.
Ordinary people in this country couldn't give a rats ass about Gaza.
Three quarters of the country (maybe two thirds actually) absolutely do care about it one way or the other.
People following this propaganda channel masquerading as news really have no brains do they
That's where you are wrong. The current Middle East situation could so easily deteriorate into a global conflict, no thanks to Hamas, Iran & Israels' determination to behave like their historical nazi oppressors...
I care about it becoming a wider conflict, but that is the extent of my interest.
I thought he was ok when appointed but he seems to have lost the plot.The whole World watches this!
You witnessed him committing treason before he was speaker🙄
Not sure that's true, not even the whole of Britain watches this.
He is the best ,i bet you cant do his job as you are not good enough for it .
Such a Circus 🎪
I was going to ask when the bearded lady will be turning up but that will probably happen sooner than we think
If the whole world is watching then the Politicians are doing themselves no good either - like a load of children being denied their sweets.
Shocking needs sacking
That's not what we do to traitors
Explain tough guy.
As do the present govt 😂
@@kevonslims7269
You a traitor bro?
Leave Shocking alone - Don't sack him!
What about the SNP paper on deleted messages..
Labour and the Speaker trouncing the rules to accommodate the wishes, feelings and emotions of muslims.
Yes very good speaker of the house the best for a long time ,bless him .
@@obeidgolamrassoude3688 get back in your boat and return.
@@kevinb9830Tut Tut.....
Bullshit. If all the followers of Islam are gone who will you hate next?
Sick of it!
just shows how little democracy is left in this god forsaken country
Oh sorry Chum,"Democracy" passed away many years ago.
LOL democracy????
Are you kidding?
It's an illusion dear.
replaced with Idiocracy, a new phenomenon from U$A!@@user-ru7lw2xh1k
Ain’t the point of democracy to hear all sides. What are people scared of 😂😂😂
What democracy remains? Country is run by the elite.
This is a disgrace and party politics are at play. I'm also ashamed to be Scottish at the moment.
So your a Unionist? Keep taking the medication.
@@pmcg68 Really something seriously wrong with you.
@@pmcg68 And you still believe in Krankie / Useless as THE way forward ?
@@pmcg68you can't still support these criminals, surely? That just makes you look so bad!
Not a word when members voiced treeeasonnn.
Time to worry about British borders not Gaza, Ukraine and Israeli borders
Insulate yourself from the outside by hiding under the duvet.
What a joke !!! This country as become 😢
@localreviewking134 cant clothe, house or feed our own. Time to ask other countries for handouts instead of paying billions to them
Whoever pays more, and our Government never really cared about us.
Here here. Its ridiculous how much money the immigrants get. When the old woman next door can't put her heating on because it's too expensive. Time to look at our problems and our taxpayers first and what we want
Hoyle knows exactly what he is doing, mumbling his way through and on the defensive. Guilt written all over him, he showed he was a puppet during covid.
He revealed that MPs were exempt from having the vaccine.
I'm as right wing as right wing can be but I think that he knew Labour MPs would be going back to very dangerous constituencies where their lives may be be at risk from 'you know who' so he wanted to give them a vote that would make an attack less likely.
Absolute nonsense. Hoyle has been a brilliant Speaker.
Hoyle is a disgrace, but the whole house, is, too. Squabbling and crying like children. Letting Muslims dominate the political agenda. If they only cared about native Brits, so much. Pathetic! What a shit-show!
Max Bygraves i wanna tell you a story.....
When they had a debate on unexplained excess deaths the chamber was empty. Just goes to show where the priorities of our useless politicians are.
We need a "none of the above" options on this years general election paper.
UK citizens first 🇬🇧
I've always said Hoyle was a wolf in sheeps clothing, this proves I am right. MKII Bercow now reveals himself. Get rid ASAP!!!!
Not him referring to an andian as the p.m?
Not him failing to arrest a single okkyoupyer?
Not him allowing a vote on jherri sov ren tea over us?
He’s actually a wolf in sheep’s clothing!!
@@richardgallagher4880seek help Heinrich
They're worse than schoolkids.
Guy Falkes is needed
But he failed so not what we need
@@robertcreighton4635we need his older , more intelligent brother 😂
Isn't his brother a weather presenter? He knows how to spell too.
TRATOR HE HAS TO GO AS BAD AS BERCO!!!!
He is a disgrace
They're all a disgrace
He's not that good.
Hoyle is making the SNP look credible and organised which takes some doing
No he is not he is correct in every sense ,just because he does not buy your crap and lies you dont like him .
@@obeidgolamrassoude3688 I don't like any of them.
Deal with English problems first!
Aye and give Scotland independence that way we don't need to listen to the sh**e coming out of the English that is supposed to be intelligent debates..
@@pmcg68Scotland is sh te.
@@pmcg68 Keep taking the tablets.
@@pmcg68how's the Sturgeon getting on, found the missing money yet😅. Muslim leaders of the SNP sending Scottish an British taxpayers money to Gaza 🙄🥴🤪
They're not mutually exclusive events. The country has been trashed over the last 14 years though & desperately needs a change of power.
Bercow set a precedent and this numpty has followed it. We need another Guy Fawkes.
I don’t understand why waste their time voting and arguing over whether there should be a ceasefire in Gaza because let’s face it, it doesn’t count for anything as Israel doesn’t have to listen and it shouldn’t. Would we listen if it happened to us. We should concentrate on problems back at home and be discussing that.
I foolishly thought that Hoyle was an honest man. He’s as bent as Bercow, using his power to shape parliament to fit his own agenda. It’s very sad when the Speaker is proved to be crooked.
Bercow just loved his own self importance ( and his own voice)
Bercow and Hoyle two cheeks of the same backside
Bend it like Bercow
at least bercow was funny
@@pollos1 REALLY WHEN AND HOW
It's time to make the speaker of the house a civil service position. Maybe limit it to a person who has served in the military. Using an elected MP to run the house brings the house into question and deprives a constituency an MP for its affairs.
I couldn't careless about Gaza.
Decent footballer but the creator of his own downfall, seems a decent guy when he's sober and not slobbering.
@@scepticAL4322 That Gazza had to Z's, but still funny!😂
@edthompson9337 and that's what makes funny, funny
They were saying the same in world war 2, then that created a far bigger problem when it "wasn't our place". Do you know why there was so many problems in Africa and the middle East in the 90s? What the terrorists were saying ""The Americans and British killed my family" they were saying. What better way tomavoid making enemies of Gazans and their allies and their citizens by doing the right thing and deescalating the situation
They can flap their gums as much as they like, they have no power to stop Israel from defending itself.
Hamas does not observe ceasefires, they always break them so Israel has no choice but to carry on until their enemies are defeated
Not sure, killing children is not something we can accept on either side.
Children wouldn't be being killed in Gaza if Hamas were not making them human shields.@@localreviewking134
@@localreviewking134 Tell that to Hamas who started this conflict by killing children and refuse to pursue peaceful means to solve the issue
@@stevehayward1854 The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has tragically claimed the lives of many, including children. Recent reports indicate high numbers of casualties in the Gaza Strip, and unfortunately, this figure may change as confirmation continues. No matter the number, every life lost, child or adult, is a human tragedy.
Violence in any form, from Hamas attacks to the IDF's actions, poses significant risks to civilians, including children. It's crucial to acknowledge the suffering on both sides and avoid language that demonizes entire groups ("terrorists"). Instead, focus on the individuals impacted and the need for peaceful solutions.
The historical context of the conflict matters. Children have endured its repercussions for generations, participating in protests and experiencing violence firsthand. Schools and other youth spaces have not been spared. International organizations have urged both sides to uphold children's rights and avoid targeting them. Data suggests thousands of children have lost their lives on both sides in recent decades.
While the goal of protecting lives is paramount, the reality of conflict often leads to casualties, including children. The objective should be to minimize these losses and strive for a future where no child dies in war. Peace negotiations remain the only sustainable solution.
Extending peace wishes to all communities impacted by the conflict, including those in Gaza and those within Israel who yearn for peace.
He has.lost all respect from the members of the house.
a muslim bill from the SNP who have a muslim first minister who in turn thinks hes a prime minister
Whaaaaaaaaaa
Waving the independence flag for his middle east backers.
A humanitarian bill not a Islamic bill. And he is a first minister of Scotland.
@@pmcg68A load of rubbish, none of our business, they're concerned is to find the Loch Ness monster.
@@pmcg68 And he's as thick as two short planks.
What are these people voting for last time I checked it’s not your country to decide what to do
This was my thought as well. If i'm right they are all debating what the countries official stance should be and ok i kind of get that but this war has been going on for ages now and Israel i don't think care at all and won't change their mind if suddenly britain now says "Hey lets have a ceasefire because we say so" . I'm not sure what all this debating would actually do and achieve.
@@thedegoosethese debating could stop the uk from using our taxes to send arms to the israelis to commit a genocide. I'm surprised that you aren't aware. The uk sends 6.4 billion pounds to israel every year. That's OUR money. If these debates could stop that, than it's worth it.
So our taxes today paid for these clowns to complain about wording for a vote on something that we have no control over? Cheers guys, good job today 👏 I wonder if tomorrow we can propose a motion to stop it raining on my birthday moving forward. I’ll let you guys work on the wording for the debate
😂😂❤❤❤
Gazza is not english problems
did he not get a new liver
@@josephberrie9550 No.
@@josephberrie9550 What are you on about
@@davidwestley007I think you mean Gaza and the other chap was referring to Gazza the alcoholic footballer.
He retired years ago
Have always thought he is a knob.
This whole Prime Ministers Questions and silly motions pantomime/circus needs to be dropped,
We are the laughing stock of the entire World 🎪 🤡
Bought and Paid for by his Masters then walks straight into the Lords for the rest of his life ?
You have two amendments. The SNP'S and Labour's you would struggle to slip a cigarette paper between them, concerning differences. Yet Hoyle thought it necessary to allow the Labour amendment on an SNP opposition day. The speaker is supposed to be unbiased. To show no favouritism. The fact that the Labour amendment was all about controlling its own M.P. s votes and had nothing to do with concerns for Palestinians was well known. Therefore Hoyle's decision was not in Parliaments interest, as a whole's, it was in the interest of Labour's internal interests. Hoyle has shown himself to not be independent nor unbiased and must resign
The British government does not seem to discuss many issues that concern British people and what we want
Britain has no business interfering in foreign affairs!
Yeah man.... YEMEN?
Belfour declaration comes to mind. Educate yourself before you pass comment.
Apart from being the US poodle when required.
Time to stay out of other countries business.
Hoyle narrates like a dumbo.
And we pay for this lot unbelievable 🤬
He is biased against the tories because he is labour.
Labour will be in power soon anyway
@@Seb_latimerwell, a corrupt Tory-form of New Labour.
Why aren't these STNUC as vocal and involved when it comes to Covid vaccine injuries and Covid origins !!!
He needs to go.
They all need to go.
Six months to go. You are gonna love the change 😊
They're all liars and not fit for purpose
What's lying got to do with it?
THIS POINTLESS VOTE STRETCHES THE DAY OUT SO ALL CAN HAVE A JOLLY UP. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LOOK AT EXPENSES SHEETS FOR THIS DAY!!!
MY CAPS LOCK IS STUCK TOO - HELP!
I’m absolutely appalled that our HoC is spending valuable time on a motion that is purely symbolic and will be ignored in the place that it matters. Our country is multicultural and there will be many who support what the Israelis are doing and many that will oppose. As a country we should obviously support finding a way to peace but other than that a vote like this is meaningless unless we have leverage that can be used to facilitate the result.
Arse covering because the UK government is complicit in plausible genocide and since the ICJ ruling, Israel has got worse, not better.
Our country going to hell in a hand basket and they worry about countrys that have nothing to with us
there seems to be a desire for main party involvement, don't see an issue with that, but if the proposal is to curry political votes rather than UK interests then we need a UK referendum outside of an UK election.
This is not for Parliament to decide it is for Israel this is not the Raj anymore
I never trusted Hoyle from the minute he stood in that seat.. Berkow mk ll.. 🤮
The comments here show all right what's missing. Affairs at home need to be counted as having priority. We badly need a truly BRITISH House of Commons, one full of people who have Britain's needs at heart.
This is Westminster. This is parliament. This is bloody disgusting.
They act like immature school kids!
What a waste of time. "A Gaza ceasefire Vote " Why? does Gaza and Israel give a damn what these Prats vote- time they worked in our interests or got out of Politics all together sick of these work avoiding Red Herrings from a bunch of 11+ failed candidates
They think they’re that important
Gaza or Israelis wouldn't have cared what UK thought. But our taxes are being used to fund a genocide. That makes it a uks business. This needs to be addressed.
Irrelevant, waste of time and just incredibile they think they have any power.
The snp would really need to try and sort Scotland out ....what is this nonsense in the uk parliament
I heard the words, I heard the raucous shouting, I saw the arm waving but did not understand a thing..they are an embarrassment
It’s a pity the UK parliament couldn’t get a speaker who could speak so that he could be understood.
This is a U.K. Parliament what are we wasting time on this matter which is in another country and thousands of miles away. Spent your time for which we pay you on the people who vote for you
Its all theatre anyway, a smokescreen to take attention away from all the major problems and failings here at home.
Needs sacking what a disgrace
He also neglected to reprimand Keir when he used the Gallery audience
Yep
Socialism in every facet of our society
Hoyle should resign. He has clearly changed the rules of the house to favour the Labour Party. For me his position is untenable.
The UK is more important for the government than anywhere else on the planet, we have more problems that we have had for many decades, so concentrate on these issues before worrying about others areas of the world.
Why are we voting for a ceasefire in other country's wars? It's just weird.
Can someone explain in plain English what all that was about?
Parliament is a joke. Please stop trying to deny that a certain medication is harmful.
No ceasefire until the hostages are returned. Arguing for an immediate ceasefire is doing exactly what ham as wants and supporting terrier ists
Mr Hoyle was blatantly biased and must resign
The job creates arrogance and self inportance like this man. Never really replaced bet boothroyd
get this man out now.
Cost of living crisis -country being invaded - nhs overloaded-dentists like gold dust-and our mp's our discussing another country's problems what a CARRY ON
Can someone explain to me whats happening as I have no idea what he said
Starmer promised Hoyle his continued job as leader when they’re in power.
It's not Starmers gift to do so. Google "How the Speaker is Elected" and learn something ?
@@jjefferyworboys8138 what Hoyle did was unprecedented. Starmer was seen in Hoyles room beforehand, no doubt strong arming. Sue Grey spotted too. Pressure.
@@jjefferyworboys8138 and what is it with you people and the aggression. So sour and bitter.
@@Sam-gw5pl they always resort to insults.
GOD HELP US ALL IF THAT'S ALL WE HAVE AS A GOVERNMENT WHERE HAS MY BELOVED ENGLAND GONE
Why don’t they get this vocal over our own country and our own problems 🤷🏽♀️
Why is our government voting on this anyway we are itrrelevant
Can someone explain to me where the common people are considering it is the house of commons? Let's change its name to represent what it's filled with, ceo's, millionaires, real estate owners, Lords and sir's and not 1 commoner in sight. Absolutely disgrace the lot of them.
Loyalty to a 3rd party and integrity cannot co-exist.. it is impossible to balance the interests of the UK.. and the interests of Wall St
I wonder if this SNP motion came about as a result of Humza Yousaf’s recent meetings with Hamas representatives. I would not be at all surprised .
It's nothing to do with the UK or the yanks we should concentrate on our own country which is in an abysmal state
Hoyle is Labour, after all. Shouldn't even be there...
They are all bent. Not his first time is it. No honour amongst thieves. They forget they work to make things better for the people.
Lack of discipline in the House of Commons with riff raff no wonder the speaker is hacked off ORDER
Nothing to do with us, maybe fix our own problems first.
Why haven't the English got their own parliament
Just call an Election and sort this mess out once and for all.
WAKE UP BRITAIN 🇬🇧 😳 WAKE UP !!
I feel its time for a clear out, in a position such as the speaker! You can never take sides, this speakers most certainly does.
Sooo many changes needed inc the number of seats reflecting the number of votes
this has gone on long enough! Make an example of this bungler! The Counsel demands it!
The position of ‘power’ often goes to their heads.