FURY over Commons speaker's position on ceasefire amendments has Lindsay Hoyle 'BEGGING for his job'
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- GB News Political Editor, Christopher Hope, breaks down what caused both Conservatives and SNPs to leave the House of Commons - chaos ensued over amendments to an SNP motion calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.
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At one point I would not have believed what is going on in British Politics these days , however why have a vote in our house of Commons for something we cannot control ! It would be better if the Politicians paid more attention to Our Country as we are in turmoil also or have they not noticed this due to worrying about things that have no consequences in our Country ( apart from allowing the protests outside ) get all of these islamists out of our country
Absolutely agree 100%
At least it stops all the talk of excess deaths, Covid enquiry, etc
It seems Labour wanna buy all of the votes from islamists
TOTALLY AGREE..GET BRITAIN BACK ON TRACK 👏👏🇬🇧
The UK is in a right old state, where nothing works anymore, yet they decide to have a vote on a ceasefire when it's none of our business, won't make any difference, and is nothing to do with Home Affairs. Idiots will still vote for either side of the House in a General Election. If you vote for any of the main parties you deserve everything you get which will be more woke, messed up crap, where nothing works anymore. Can't remember at any time when the country was in such a state and I'm 70 years old.
This is shameful and has nothing to do with the UK what about the real issues,cost of living ,rampant immigration and a police force that is openly in support of all muslim rights and non for the indigenous people
The indigenous people here have caused this problem, and we sell arms to a state commiting jen o cide. We are commiting a crime.
Britain signed the Balfour Declaration. Go read.
@@siemprestruggle9272that was back in the day. Understand where you are coming from but we need to deal with our own domestic issues first👍
Who’s actually running this country? What an absolute joke this country has become.
You asked who is running this country try the ilegal migrant's Muslims and a bunch of idiots who call themselves politicians if the British people held all these protests there would be a lot of arrests and yet those who back Islam can do what the hell they want and our so called great police force do sod all to stop them in fact it's the complete opposite the Islamic supporters can do what the hell they want in fact the UK is fucked it's being taken over by the Muslims and ilegal migrant's, what a bloody disaster,
Aliens are running
civil service and soros
@@rogerwood4846 Shin Bet
That’s the Conservatives who are running the country and making this country a joke.
If only they showed as much passion for the UK.
Came here to say the same thing…. 🤬
Exactly
The idf are terrorists.
His heads still in the jungle
Not bothered about cost of living or illegal immigration crisis anymore it seems?
Bla bla bla is easier
Israel wants you to take a big share of pally refugees.
Don't worry your parliament will make them legal immigrants.
When was they?
Your share of three million pallies on the way.
No matter what they decide in parliament, the war in gaza will continue and there is nothing the UK or anyone else can do about it.
Like any war, both sides are at fault to some degree and neither will stand down.
Parliament should concentrate on what is going on in the UK, if you can even call it the UK anymore, and they need to support the people of the UK instead of letting illegal immigrants and migrants take control.
Well said
Erm actually there is a lot that they can do, stop sending god damn tax payers money to Israel and stop sending arms and ammunitions that used to kill children. So yeah maybe stop sending money to them and instead use the money to build new homes in the UK.. how about that????
Hamas and Hamas alone are at fault.
@@paulbuckingham15 so what.. since Hamas at fault lets wipe out all Palestinians including children, women and innocent men?? Where did you get that logic?? You’re a genius. Your mum should be proud of what she brought to the world, doesn’t she??
All for Money of the War Mongers who have shares in all the arms manufactures … it’s One Big Club or Corruption to keep us debt slaves to the system !
Does anyone remember what the response in parliament was when Andrew Bridgen spoke about the thousands and thousands of mysterious deaths the UK has suffered over the last couple of years? Empty building.
We the people are just a wallet to pay for foreigners both at home and abroad. They don't give a toss about us.
100,000 excess deaths and counting since the pandemic, lots due to cardiovascular problems in previously fit and healthy young people, and the response from our MPs is to shoot the messenger (withdrawal of the whip from Andrew Bridgen). During the German "Blitz" bombing campaign of 1940-41 there were only 43,000 civilian deaths.
Goes to show how rotten to the core our entire parliament has become. Not fit for purpose and needs to be reformed instantly.
House of Commons has not been fit for purpose for years it is just a rich lazy kids playground.
Imagine voting for these people.
If Starmer gets in to Power he will drive a Stake through the Heart of Britain!!!
is that comedy! i guess you dont live in england then at the moment.
Starmer must be stopped or somehow threatened with revolt if he continues this shit
Certainly bigger than Blair did.
The whole of parliment should be sacked
A chap called Guy Fawkes had the right idea 😂
The UK has no say and no sway in what happens in any other country of the world. It is at best gesture politics, which is not what any of those MPs were elected to do.
I am sick to the teeth of seeing marches calling for genocide overwhelming our streets without hinderance, and then picking up the bill. I am sick of seeing people turn up in a small boat on Monday, get free everything on demand and turn up on the streets by Wednesday in protest marches.
Public finances have unprecedented numbers of people awaiting surgery for 3+ yrs after 'urgent referral' (and waiting) whilst the House indulges in these antics.
SNP plays games for Independence, Labour plays games for a "Muslim vote" that pushes people to vote for changes in all things secular without even enquiring as to the reasons and effects just on account of their family (not even personal) religious history and allegiance. Oh, and a 'trans vote' as if there was such a thing.
Maybe it is time to abolish political parties and have every one of them sit as Independents.
You forgot to mention a small detail… the billions and billions of pounds of tax payers money that UK send to Israel.. so you’re not fooling anyone, they do have a say.
Very well said
i have never seen a more disgusting act by the speaker of the house in all my life this was a vote that means nothing anyway as if Isreal are going to surrender just because the voted a ceasefire but for him to be corrupted by the labour party is disgusting he need to be fired
Its an embarrassment.....wtf has happened to this country.
Why would the IDF listen to the tiny UK its nothing to do with us.
We need to sort our country out first ….. it’s a right mess.
It's got nothing to do with the UK.
So what's all the fuss about.
Uk politics is utter bollicks
Ofc it has its UK that started it all
@@Aimed6 utter bollocks.
@@goochygoochoutdoors.1913 how stupid are u uk made the borders who defeated hitler than France or UK 🤣🤣
@@goochygoochoutdoors.1913 bro u right wings don't know anything abt the world
UK has major issues that our elected politicians need to debate and solve - education and training talent, housing, NHS, energy, infrastructure, mass migration legal/illegal - but not lets waste time grandstanding on something they cannot influence in Gaza. #thestrangedeathofeurope
This is the UK. Surly the government should be discussing British problems and there are certainly plenty of issues that require sorted out before discussing other countries. It won't make one little difference of what our parliament says to Israel or Gazza .The same as all these protest marches they don't make one bit of difference , they only anger people going about their normal business and change what people think of the country in a negative way .
Our Parliament take its orders off the WEF.
UN WEF 2019 strategic partnership.
Vote "Reform".
They are not all they make out to be either,wait and see
@@russellbruton6344 precisely problem with this country they don't see the truth
i agree
@@russellbruton6344How will you know that if the are not in government. That's just your opinion not fact.
Change your leader first.
Despite the Tory’s being hated more than at any time in history. The desperate Labour Party show that it would be madness to put them in power. We simply can’t wait another five years. We must vote reform to give ordinary people a voice.
Definitely.
I don't hate the Tories - and if you do I hope you are not hypocritical enough to have taken ANY of the extra monies they have handed out (which they didn't have to) over the recent cost of living crisis? I do however have absolutely no faith in the Labour Party or the SNP who are more concerned about Muslim votes than they are about anyone else. Disgusting!
@@user-hx8lw8pu1f I think your confused. It was the SNP day and they put forward the motion yet the speaker went along with Kier Starmers. Labour wanted to have theirs put forward to appease the Muslims. The speaker changed the rules for Starmer. Bercow use to do the same but always got away with it. No wonder the SNP who put forward the motion was fuming. This is way out of order.
@@user-hx8lw8pu1f If the speaker wants to change procedures that is for another time and should be debated. It should not be done just because he thinks it's right to. Labour spent a lot of time delaying the motion obviously to work on the speaker. Labour and the speaker are at fault here and the baying mob at the door. It was the SNPs day and he had no right to do this. Would he have done this for the Tories. I think not. The people of Gaza voted for this so don't really have to much sympathy.
Our government is a complete joke. None of our MPs care about what is happening in and to this country. These MPS appointed by the public, i wish thay were as passionate about this country instead of what is happening in another country.
Starmer and the speaker are a disgrace
Why ??
@@matthewcook9404because!
So Labour blackmailing the speaker if he doesn't do what they say.
Typical. The focus outside of the country in someone else's mess whilst ignoring the countries enormous collective crisis. What is even worse is they are getting paid by the British tax payers to do their jobs on their behalf and they are not, they are using the money for other purposes which provides a shocking example of how they are not invested in the country as a whole.
Israel wants you to take a large share of pally refugees. You had a big big role in the creation of this problem.
Im voting far right as possible, because my country is not Britain anymore. Hate to say that but if i don't my kids future is in danger
i care about my bills going up.i care about my mortgage going up.i care about where i live not being taken over by illegal sand people.i care about being able to pay for petrol.i care about if i can see a doctor and go to hospital when i need it.id like to be able to treat myself to a nice dinner out sometimes.but the tories and snp want to grandstand about something very few people give a fuck about and not get on with what they where voted in for to sort out.and they wonder why the working class that the tories hammer will never vote for them
Your bills are going up and have been because of a war in Ukraine and a war in Gaza. If you are slightly to simple to understand that all that happens in this world, has a cause and effect on all of us. We are complicit in the mess that is the middle east. We have, over a long period of time been main instigators in this region. We still sell arms there snd I guess there is no profit in peace for our well to do I guess.
Wars make your bills go up. But let's pretend that it's some guy on a dinghy boat causing it.
Absolutely, spot on
Labour aren't innocent in all of this
I believe it was Labour and the SNP (Supporters of Nauseating Palestine) that showboated it. The Tories just jumped on the bandwagon. Adoo adooi saddique - my enemy’s enemy is my friend!
maybe need to ask, who paid for useless and his wife's recent trip to Gaza
The taxpayers
And then their trip to Qatar .
@@dotmac6480taxpayers again
This is not what parliament should be discussing. Everything now revolves around keeping muslims happy. British people dont matter to the government. Just dont upset foreigners.
And who do you think is responsible for Europe being swamped by Muslims? It’s the Israel lobby. They are using Islam as a weapon to destabilise the nation State since they want global governance with them at the top. All the mid wits are falling for it too.
It has to stop. This is England and it is the land of the English.
Foreign policy is a valid point of discussion
Guess what...you want to do business with China then you gotta keep them happy...do you hear about the 1000s locked up in Chinese prisons on the daily news? No. That's because of business.
Yeah keeping Muslims happy with wars in Iraq for decades, wars in Afghanistan, bombing Syria, Yemen etc. Of course none of that should be discussed. Another complete dimwit.
What on earth has the SNP got to do with Israel, they need to concentrate on Scotland and the Scottish people because that is the problem facing Scots. Their own country should come first.
Get used to it. You're about to vote for this as a member of the public! This is a great test for what the Labour Party is capable of when they get into power.
I'm voting for Reform UK, if they are not in my area, I'm definitely spoiling.
@Arc-is8lt Yet Labour will still get in because people are falling for the same old, vote for one just to get rid of the other, yet time and again it's been proved they are both as bad as each other in the end.
Sad thing is, people just won't bother to vote at all, it will probably be one of the poorest turnouts ever.
Sometimes I feel like starting up a:-
'SPOIL YOUR VOTE CAMPAIGN!'
Just to p##s them off! Like they have with us for so many years..lol
@@Arc-is8lt All the way...👍
@@user-hx8lw8pu1f The whole thing is a disgrace.
@@user-hx8lw8pu1f The Middle East is a tragedy in the same way that Ukraine is. But this is all part of the "World War" which the military industrial complex is winning, nobody else.
We should be coming together over our country. Unemployment, recession, knife crime, drug use, increase of over 1500 people/month dying just to name a few. None of which bothers our government. Instead they ignore it and as seen in the last few days agree to change and manipulate the data in their favour.
Do as the muslim want or their will be trouble i guees
Who gives a flying fuck over Gaza and Hamas?
Yea
I’m sick of hearing about it. I’m more bothered about the illegals being spread about and seeing football stadiums full of men not doing Jack shit about it.
Lots of people on both sides.
I do. Regional conflict causes much more migration for 1 thing.
You will when the pallies refugees arrive at your door
They need to stay out of it
The UK is finished the writing is on the wall.
Hoyle needs to be sacked immediately.
Vote Reform
🎉 Vote Alan. Tice is a shill and controlled opposition 🎉
It is an utterly unpeaceful call for peace
Yep..cos only one side wants peace
ISRAEL@@madmelwood3778
@@madmelwood3778 what side?
No one seems to want peace not Israel/ Palestine
Nor any party here.
No one can seem to get along with anyone else
Why would Israel listen to the SNP ?
The Speaker has to go,he broke convention.Labour is now shown to support both Hamas and the Palestinians via Hoyle.
Free hostages
pandering to the middle east, what about great britain?
So you have problem with Labour supporting innocent Palestinians, BUT you don’t have problem with the Tories sending billions and billions of tax payers money to Israel?? Don’t you think that money should be used in the UK instead of being used in a Fascist country to kill children??
Well said and bloody TRUE !!
Israel has the right to defend itself
Its now the Muslim Labour party. Labour needs those Muslim votes.
I've never seen politicans so passionate, on any other subject in my life. Linsay Hoyle's TOAST
Passionate about something that is none of our business. That's very telling.
What do you think is going on?
Shame they can't be passionate about this country.
I wish they could be as passionate about our own domestic issues!
What did Hoyle mean about the safety of MP's, threats from whom? We all know!
We saw this with Brexit when the Speaker was making things up to support the Remain side.
Vote Reform before its to late to
Safe UK
It has nothing to do with the UK.
Vote Reform folks
🎉 Vote Alan. Tice is a Ukraine first 🎉
We need a proper leader and it isn’t Sunak.
The speaker was brought back to explain why he had allowed the amendments. He stated that he allowed them hoping the HOC would unite because many MP's had expressed to him their concerns and worries about the threats they had received in their constituency. Can this be true that our cowardly MP's are willing to change Government policy to appease foreign nationals that they have housed across the Country whilst we cannot even criticise them without being called a racist.
Its like listening to a group of schoolchildren arguing over who's got the best pack lunch no wonder this country's in such a mess what a disgrace
Time we sorted out our own mess before telling other countries what to do.
Hoyle has compromised his required impartiality and with it, his integrity.
He isn't fit to hold the position of Speaker of the House.
By disregarding and breaching the rules, he has prevented a huge and rightful defeat for Labour, and or has circumvented the 'due' Labour sackings and resignations that were imminent because of the vote.
If Hoyle was a decent man they'd have never let him be Speaker of The House.
Rubbish. Please explain what 'rule' the speaker broke. As I see it, he made a judgement call - precisely what he is there for.
Article 32 of the standing orders (article 31, mentioned by Farage, is an irrelevance), holds that "In respect of any motion or any bill under consideration on report or any Lords amendment to a bill, the Speaker shall have power to select the amendments, new clauses or new schedules to be proposed thereto.". So he FOLLOWED the rule, far from breaking any.
Yeah because you know better than every MP and Journalist in the country.@@markd1516
@@markd1516 Standing Order Rules, prevent a 2nd Party's amendment to another Party's motion.
Hoyle over rid' the Rule, allowing 'Labour' to make an amendment to an SNP Bill.
Standing Order Rules exist precisely for this very reason of avoiding Parliamentary chaos.
He has compromised his integrity and should be relieved of his post, despite his subsequent apology.
It just sums up the pathetic state of our politics when, with, as you say, pressing problems at home time is wasted debating events abroad that we have no influence over.
The Labour Party has indeed a lot to answer for, ditto for the cons !
Why ??
Shouldn’t our MPs just keep their noses out of it, it simply puts our people in danger.
A bunch of six formers would have realised that even if we wanted a cease fire it’s out of our governments control.
so it's pass the ammunition to one side and humanitarian aid to the other?
All the problems in this country and this is what our politicians are concerned about. The whole lot are an absolute shower.
Shame housing isn’t dominating British politics.
What a waste of time!
At last, a clear explanation from the media.
What makes anyone think that a debate over here will do anything to effect the policies of the current Israel government? This isn't Hogwarts and we don't have a magic wand!...We should be focusing on our own house and the issues we can actually do something about.
The last time I heard Gaza mentioned so much is when I still had my season ticket at ibrox 😂
The last time Jordan opened its borders for the Palestinian refugees it ended up in Black September where Pakistani armed forces had to clear the Palestinian attempt to overthrow the king. A bad reputation they have...FOR A VERY GOOD REASON
His excuse is that Gaza supporters are intimidating MPs in public. It feels different now that they are impacted by open door policies and they need to push it through to bow to pressure
Time they all looked after their own country !
Israel and anything to do with Jews, always makes people very emotional. Such an OBSESSION WITH ISRAEL AND JEWS.
If it helps, Jews are not wanting this, they want to be left the heck alone and be treated equally
THERE'S "SUCH AN OBSESSION" WITH MUSLIMS TOO ........ THIS IS GOING TO KILL OUR COUNTRY, BECAUSE NOW OUR OWN INDIGENOUS CHRISTIANS ARE BEING TREATED AS THOUGH THEY'RE LEPERS BECAUSE OF IT😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡
@@hannacook859 The chosen ones.
@@paulharris1502 Says who?
@@paulharris1502 🤣🤣
It’s a pity they are not as passionate about the huge problems this incompetent government has created,rather than procedure and protocol!
New Rule: Ban all lawyers from being MP's.
They have too much conflict of interest. The laws that are best for the country will not always be the laws that the lawyering profession make the most money from.
After that mad narcissist Bercow, I had high hopes for Lindsay Hoyle as Speaker. Hoyle has behaved in the past like he thinks the speakership is his own, personal fiefdom. I am so disappointed….
Vote Reform UK
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The Speaker is literally wearing the colours of the Palestinian flag.
Yet another clear indication that the indigenous population need to rise up and take control of our country, establish a new form of government; institute the necessary controls on religion, immigration and forced repatriation for immigrant offenders; and a restructure of our police force.
How does a vote in the UK do anything for a war in gaza? I genuinely don't understand what this achieves.
Yet no demand for the return of the hostages!
It looks like they're a bunch of cowards
SNP refuse to mention the hostages 😂 their call is ridiculous, it is so anti Israel, it will just make Israel not listen to anything in future
SNP mentioned hostages.
They also mentioned collective punishment which is a legal accusation that isn't supported by the official government of our country
@@ads13924 does not mean your not allowed to voice your opinion in the houses of parliment. The government don't dictate what everyone's view on a subject are. We aren't quite at dictatorship level just yet champ.
Most British people don't really care what is happening in Gaza, it's just a shouty minority.
It is time the SNP gave some attention to fixing Scotland.
A good share of three million pallies will have then in full song.
Hoyle is Finished 😷
The pantomime we witnessed in Parliament proves politicians are fast becoming totally irrelevant. This 'debate' will have no effect on the Gaza conflict and was a total waste of Parliamentary time.
Sir KS is a DISGRACE !
Manipulating The Speaker to
"save his own skin"
KS - SHAME on HIM.
About time our elected representatives, our servants bothered themselves about issues that directly impact the citizens of this country instead of issues that are essentially none of our business.
This parliament is in no position to make international decisions on behalf of the UK/NI population, a General Election should be called immediately ? : )
I havent given gaza a second thought since that goal against Germany
UK needs to implement some positive Brexit energy in to its politics....
Build back better & Take back control.....
Most of them didn't want brexit to happen wider, look at all the games with the brexit debates. As far as I'm concerned, that Bercow; or what ever his name was? He was playing much worse games than this.
@@chriswilde7246 I hope the Brexit dream wasn't the recipe for this disaster, makes a lot of us look dumb.....
@@widervision710 certainly does. 👍
This guy Hoyle has got to go immediately he is an absolute disgrace
What about Britain. Why can’t OUR Parliament, OUR Government deal with OUR REAL problems HERE,
Just when you think that you have seen it all , something else pops up. Ffs what next.
Waste of time and money.
Imagine if they cared about England this much.
What a shower; every last one of them. Just who the hell do they think they are? There is no government in this country now. How dare they put themselves above the people.
Yet they don't get so heated over excess deaths!
Well reported on Nigel
Hoyle the labour schill
I am just furious that the MPs spend so much time on a problem that has NOTHING TO DO WITH US. What is our business is the constant noisy Palestinian supporting protests on our capital's streets, which should be stopped, as it is growing the feeling against innocent Jewish people in this country.
Are u stupid innocent Jews ur joking right?!?!?!
What we are seeing here is the lack of quality of the people that represent us. I don’t care whether your labour or conservative Green or liberal Democrat, if you can’t see that politics is broken because of your tribal loyalty, then you are the problem.
The Limp Dems seem to be very quiet all of a sudden, probably wondering which side of the fence to sit on😊
What is it with speakers ,Pelosi was the same, they are acting like the leaders of Countries.
Its virtue signalling on a massive scale, nothing we say will make any difference to what Nuttiyahu does