Why Team USA Basketball Will Keep Getting Worse
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2023
- Team USA basketball will keep getting worse. #nba
In 2012, Team USA with one of the best rosters assembled beat Nigeria by 83 points. In 2021, Team USA played Nigeria again and lost. And just two weeks ago, they didn’t even get a medal in FIBA 2023.
Who was on the roster…oh. Before 2021, USA basketball had only 5 losses..in 85 years. 3 of those losses happened in 2004, the worst performance in USA basketball history. So when Team USA loses in basketball it’s a big deal.
If we take a look at the roster this year, not a single player had ever been part of a world cup or Olympics before and only had 3 all-stars in total. Anthony Edwards was our best individual player and that’s part of piece #1 players are more concerned with resting than representing the country.
We went from this to this.
Yet this time, it wasn’t due to injuries that some of the best players said no. Rather, the offseason is for rest and that’s fair, especially if you had a deep playoff run. But we’re in the age of load management. Players are already sitting out NBA games, voluntary extra games seems far fetched. In 2019, LeBron, Curry, Kawhi, Harden, everyone said no for the World Cup. There was only one All-NBA player on the roster.
Kevin Durant, Paul George, Lillard, Bam, everyone said no this year. Leading to players with no All-NBA players on the roster this year. So the roster was filled with several first time international players.
It all changed one day during the 2006 FIBA World Cup in Japan when Coach Mike Krzyzewski was coaching Team USA for the very first time… and it didn't go NEARLY as expected… well at least for the players, namely guys like LeBron and Dwight Howard. You see… during an exhibition game versus Lithuania, Coach K absolutely obliterated Dwight Howard for dosing off on defense and how he was defending the pick-and-roll… and Dwight Howard - a bonefied star and probably the best center in the NBA at the time - didn't LIKE IT!
In 2007 Team USA would have a scrimmage with their full roster, a duel between LeBron and Kobe in which Kobe hit a game winner, a whole year early. The main players were set, not some random last minute team.
But, no… it didn't end there… because Coach K took Kobe aside one day when they were watching film on there games… and said to the best player in the world “Those were some bull-t shots.” He directly questioned Kobe's shot selection…
But to Kobe's credit… he responded with a simple, “OK, I gotcha, coach.”
And then came 2008… a new era, new time… what we famously remember at the Redeem Team! It had been two years now since Coach K was introduced, the stage was set, and the players were locked in…
Coach K appointed Kobe and LeBron as the leaders of the team. Kobe made it his mission to one up him in competitiveness… diving on the floor in practice, intense defense, and it set the tone for the rest of the guys on the roster
As the USA went on to go a perfect 8-and-0 in the tournament and bring gold back to the territory it belongs… the team didn't just go on to become the notorious 'Redeem Team' - the United States took stake as number one with a winning identity and a championship culture.
2016 might've been Coach K's last year on the Olympic stage… but he didn't go out without helping deliver a third straight gold medal…
No LeBron, no Kobe, no D-Wade, no CP3… no PROBLEM!
Team USA has since struggled with the X's and O's, and with the foundational aspect of the game…
Olympic competition has grown massive, international talent has evolved RAPIDLY… to the point that the chemistry and attitude Coach K instilled is now more crucial than ever and needed to win games, something that’s missing.
Those were the words of the late Kobe Bryant going back to 2019 when Team USA strung together some L's in the FIBA games. And that’s piece #3 competition is much more difficult now, the game is more international.
Team USA was outscored 16-2 over the closing minutes of the ballgame while France looked like a well-oiled machine on both ends with all their players in cahoots with the gameplan! Team USA, though they had far better talent… scored just 11 points in the third quarter… proving that talent can only take you so far.
If we backtrack to 2008… there were just 17 NBA players that played internationally, but not for Team USA. In 2016, that number grew so much that now just TWO of the 12 competing teams in the Rio Olympics didn't have at least one NBA player on their roster…
So what’s the solution?
Finding a coach who is able to handle several personalities while still being respected and listened is tough, but one coach comes to mind and that’s Erik Spoelstra who has made literally any squad whether it’s filled with stars or filled with undrafted players get to the finals. So Team USA, get it done. 
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What should Team USA basketball do?
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Team USA needs to recruit better players!!!!! Love the vids by the way!!!!
It's all about lack of culture, the NBA is full of spoiled kids that just want to show off
@MJ2KALLDAY that 2020 team still found a way to win that tournament though
@@AntTheGoat3we in good hands now that embiid comitted to USA we have a big for years we just need to develop a big man since overseas ball is more team oriented and defense we need that defense big man
Ja morant and Lamelo want to play in the USA, but they got rejected because they represent another brand of shoes, almost all of the player on USA is nike branded
Kobe agreeing with Coach K's criticisms and Lebron walking from Coach K criticisms, shows the difference between the players and shows why the redeem team needed Kobe
@@Weeber2000_1he’s was in the league for 5-6 years that’s no excuse at that point
@@Weeber2000_1 he was in the league for 5 years, it's not immaturity it's his ego.
*NEEDED*
@@ItsMeStrider To be fair, Kobe finally became the leader he was supposed to be in 2007-08. MJ couldn't hack it until Phil Jackson came and after losing to Detroit 3 years in a row. Lebron figured it out in his second run with the Cavs.
Being a leader requires loss, experience, communication and manipulation skills, and a certain age for young players. Talent is talent. You can't become a leader before being open to people around you. You need to become a man first.
So, around the age Kobe was runing LA finals in 2004... @@godserena6059
They don't love the game anymore, we got a bunch of streamers and celebrities but not many actual hoopers
Well usa is too focused on offense yes they are the most talented in the world but damn step up on defense
What’re u even on abt dawg
That's a very presumptuous thing to say. A lot of them are just getting older. LeBron, KD, Steph, Kawhi, Harden, and Russ are well into their 30s and don't have much longer in the league. Your body needs more time to recover as you get older
@@mattr2626he’s referring to the younger players coming into the league. THEY don’t have that love for the game no more
@@mattr2626 it is presumptuous but it's not unfounded. I didn't say every player doesn't love the game but it's very observable that a lot of these guys just want the celebrity and will sit out when they actually can play.
One of the biggest problem with modern NBA is the rules. It’s too far away from FIBA rules. It’s a joke. In the 90’s and early 2000’s it was somewhat close to FIBA.
The problem is much deeper. The rules are practically the same. We are talking about minute differences.
The problem is coaching in the states has no merit.
What is different between USA and Europe is the coaches.
In NBA the players are walking all over the coaches. In Europe- the coaches have the central role when it comes to teamplay and strategy overall.
American players are all about individual performances and promoting themselves. In Europe this is a big no no where the team is more important than the individual. teamplay is everything in Europe and always was. Ball movement, finding shortcuts outsmarting the players etc.
So back in the day USA was producing way bigger and much stronger players that could easily even score against a double team from other countries. These days the Europeans cought on with the training and beefed up their players to endure not to be overpowered easily by NBA pros.
much stricter Fitness regimes and especially strength programmes were implemneted and this produced European players that can easily deal with NBA super athletes.
Europeans are still long way from producing super athletes but then again- they dont need to. They need their athletes to be athletic JUST ENOUGH for the teamplay to work its magic.
Basketball is a team sport and USA is unable to keep their national team consistent enough to actually build a solid team structure. Basically American teams in International competition are all improvising.
Maybe this worked in the past but today as Ive said, this doesnt work anymore, where Internatinal teams play for years together. You cant beat a team that played together through several tournaments with an ever rotating teams.
So if USA wants to win, they need to get a NBA team that played together 82+ games the previous season or star building an international team of players that are willing to commit to several years of playing for Team USA.
@@robotube7361 Rules are pretty different in FIBA, no 3 second rule, True Zones aren't viable in the NBA to physically be easily punished, No touch 3 etc.
The rest are correct though, the major part that hit home however is how "Talent" in the US had made players complacent from learning the fundamentals, not to mention it's a huge facade caused by the NBA and College rulesets made in order to cater "Talented" One trick offense oriented Ball Players that lose the ball once a handcheck is placed on them, still they look cool IF they get the ball into the hoop.
@@robotube7361 that no 3 second rule in the paint(on defense) is really critical. Guarantee you if they added NBA rules to fiba. A lot of European countries or other countries would struggle. European players are way more fundamental on offense but lack athleticism and lateral movement.
@@LordoftheTHOTs It don't matter, Athletecism should never be prioritized over fundamental team play, Americans always chase for the "most athletic players" instead of ones that can gaurantee you chips by playing smart.
I mean look at Jokic, MVP in 3 years (Embiid stole one) while posting up like an 80s Bigman, not as athletic but he Bully Balls through defenders like how the Euroleage and FIBA players bullied the US this year.
@@youngrody2386Exactly. I posted basically the same thing. NBA’s rules favor creating space and wide open lanes, discouraging contact, all so the high fliers can fly high on their way to the hoop and not be met at the rim. It looks good on TV and TikTok.
Everything today is about looking good. Even the shoes. Players wear lows and mids with less ankle protection because they sell better for daily wear and allow harder crossovers. So instead of enforcing highs to protect their ankles, the NBA change the jumper rules to tell defenders “no hard closeouts into the shooters space” and we get flagrants for crowding jump shooter and the fadeaway jumper…a critical skill for international play…is now totally unnecessary. And the root cause is all to sell shoes.
Like what are we doing here, NBA?
All said are correct, BUT coach K was helped by two more things:
1. The loss from Greece, when Schortsianitis roasted US playing Pick n' Roll all night (you know after that Carmelo had to listen!)
2. The fact that Kobe knew about international play and mentality (naturally supplementing coach K)
Kobe actually called them showboats in the documentary because they avoid doing the dirty work.
Kobe predicted this would happen
Prophet Kobe? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
thats exactly why germany was so good, they were a TEAM, they fought for each other and that plays a huge role in tourneys like that.
those finals against Spain made it pretty clear that the international competition caught up. those were all Real Madrid and Barça players + the Gasol brothers
and suspicous lack of travels than went unoticed by the referees
@@FULANODETAL juro que vi a lebron dar cuatro pasos en algún momento
3 all star coaches Lue Spo Kerr
3 all star
1 dpoy
1 first team all defense
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How many of these were on the German team or the Lituanian team???
Cam said it best, there's no excuses for losing.
Agreed. Lithuania only have 1 NBA role player and Germany has only 4. Team USA is composed entirely of NBA players.
nobody took dis shit serious until niggas start questioning USA abilities😂😂
Bron, Curry, KD assembling the avengers to dominate in 2024
@matthieusaade3616
Stupid people say what you just said. Very stupid comment jeez the homie just analytically broke down WHY Team USA lost and your lizard brain cant comprehend nuance
Team chemistry and playstyle matters this isnt 2K idiot. Generating future success is IMPOSSIBLE if you cant figure out WHY YOURE LOSING.
The "loss is a loss" mentally is not good enough to generate future success. Period
Hey guys just wanted to let you know that I could win the football world cup. I just don't try very hard because I care about my home games more. But like ignore anyone that wins the world cup because they didn't beat me for real you know?
Yea individually they are better. But that's the biggest issue with sports in America. Its a show off, a dick comparison. I know it's a cultural thing, but still.
Nobody is questioning if NBA is the best. But how come, games still get closer and closer?
And saying nobody gives af is pathetic. Let's just compare the prices of the players, cause they are reflecting the value of a player. 205mil for Team USA and Germany was like 20 mil.
Imagine a NBA team with teamwork of a fiba team. They would crush every competition. I don't get it how people are so ignorant, that if somebody else is doing a certain point better it's not like: yea we could improve here or there, its: yea naaa we just send shit players.
When you have a so individualistic mindset in your society, it's translating into every part even professional sport. In our societies, in Europe, there still a bit of this idea of unity around a more bigger goal than yourself...and this culture is still living into some sports and basketball is one of those where you can still witness it. Team first, individualities second. It's up to the NBA to change their rules and find a common ground between circus basketball and pure basketball.
I love the break down of NBA and Euro ball. However you’ve been gathered your facts, keep doing it that way. Keep your presentation in this format. You should definitely keep doing it this way. amazing job. Salute to you. Redeem.
Nba plays no defense……… overseas they play defense like their life absolutely depends on it and they love it
They changed basketball in boardroom meetings according to social media rating charts.
Corporate America killed everything it touched in the last 10-13 years. Movies, music, video games, sports, everything is dead.
True their offense is incredible,
But you're right there defense is pretty bad compared to overseas teams, if they don't develop there defense then their absolutely fucked
The only reason why it look like they play defense in Europe is because there isn’t a 3 second In the paint rule(on defense). If they added that a lot of European clubs would struggle with defense aswell.
@@LordoftheTHOTs 3-sec violations are one of the moronic ideas to increase offense at the expanse of defense and the actual sport. It doesn't just LOOK like it because they're allowed to play defense, they're playing it. Dumb American kids wanting to watch only highlights doesn't change the essence of the game. NBA talent is basically wasted with these rules, they're making canned food from lobsters over there. It is pitiful, so don't bring excuses, live with the shame.
@@soloistdeve what shame? Having the best basketball league in the world ? Lol. And no buddy. Not having 3 seconds in the paint means you actually have to guard your man and not rely on somebody else. The NBA court is also wider(and 3 point line is farther) Which means tougher closeouts. playing defense in the NBA Is tougher challenge than fiba.
10:45 I noticed that. Almost every player did have their best season right after up to that point. 11 of the 12 players were all stars the following season with the exception of Harrison Barnes.
Bruh this is the realest assessment from anyone on this, from anyone, on RUclips and I appreciate it.
Really good video and analysis. I would just add a couple of thoughts:
1. Steve Kerr is algo a good option, but he can not make miracles with the roster he got.
2. Time is also important. You can not just put a bunch of guys together a couple of weeks before a World Cup. The world is not 1992 anymore.
3. In this last World Cup we saw the biggest issue with USA against FIBA rules and strategy: they can not defend consistently when offense is complex.
You can bring the best squat, and they will probably lose because the rule and strategy gap is becoming wider and wider.
You can not expect them to win anymore just doing isos, pick&rol and apply poor defense.
Kobe’s presence made the difference. His international knowledge and experience was all they needed. That Blue vs White game said it all too.
I think the most important thing is his mid-range shooting. FIBA 3 point lines is about 3 feet nearer. It is actually a 2 pt mid-range shot in NBA. Kobe is one of the most lethal midrange shooter in NBA. He had no problem in his 3 pt shots in FIBA games. Same thing for Kevin Durant. And I would say that nearly all 3 point shooters in NBA now will perish in FIBA games. They do not shoot 2 pt midrange shots in current NBA games. They do not have muscle memory of those shots. So team USA must select excellent 2 pt midrange shooter. Kevin Durant and Chris Paul are my first choices. 3 point shooters are not suitable in FIBA game. Every 3 point shooter will struggle badly in FIBA games and will bring down team USA.
You 2 are delusional kobe shot 41% in 2008😂
@@drexlspivey3047 I read that it was 46.2%, not 41% with a breakdown of 60.8% 2 pt shots 32.1% 2 pt shots.
@catchnkill he's still missing out kobe was still the leader didn't matter how he shot 😅 he's going on every kobe comment to say this bs
Hearing you say spo becoming USA coach made me so fucking happy. Being a lifelong heat fan, I think you are absolutely right and really hope it does happen. He definitely has what it takes to coach team USA and at least be almost as dominant as ‘12 and 08
Commitment is perfect. Look at the current world champion. In terms of quality, it's not the best squad, but all of the players on the roster committed to playing for the team and the country 2-3 years ago. You can bet on any player and their role in the team. This means its chemistry is so good and runs like clockwork. That's why Germany ultimately became world champions. That's what Team USA is missing. The spirit and commitment of fighting for your country
Kerr was a big part of the problem. He went through the motions with no fire. Got outcoached too. Without NBA refs to back him up, Kerr aint much.
No Curry as well😅😅😅
Not really the coach fault
@@Jon1LAW u cant really blame anyone 100% as well. Non of the players played international games before and none of them are superstars. They never played with each other. Semi finals is good enough in my opinion. We really have to wait to see the Olympics
Refs backing him up? Did you even watch GSW vs LAL last year? Leflop and his apprentices had 3x the calls 🤡
@@mmmmmmmmmmm10 sooooo his 4 rings the calls weren't in his favors those years? Just jk no hate lol
USA losing its total dominance is a good thing for both USA _and_ basketball. It means that the world can finally start trying basketball more and more. That means eating the share out of soccer. USA needs to be seen as an Argentina, Brazil, or Germany of basketball. Feared, but beatable. If USA is seen as an unbeatable monster, then why even play basketball at all?
Xd euroleague is better now
Redeem from Brazil! Awesome content, perfect analysis! Coming from Brazil, the country of soccer that has been failling in World cups for quite some time now, I could not agree more. Talent will only take you so far. There is no dumbs in sports anymore. Internet improved tactics, Technology improved physicality, everyone knows the stars. It is not just to assemble a lot of All Stars and make them play...
NBA should align with FIBA rules. The soft rules are holding the team back. I would even say it held Canada back which I think had the second most NBA players on a team this past tournament.
Redeem. Enjoyed this video. Was there watching USA weak defense and also what's with the coaches discussing among each other before addressing the players. So much time wasted on time outs by doing so
The problem is that there is no defense in the NBA. But they still have awards for the best defenders. Since NBA players consider each other to be the best, based on these awards, they think they are top defenders, which they are absolutely not, as we saw at the World Cup.
Nobody cares
And one more thing. Given that NBA players play in a league where defense is almost never played, they think they are better scorers than they actually are. We also saw that at the World Cup.
Casuals always say this dumb shit. So Jrue Holiday, Jaren Jackson, Giannis, Herb Jones, Jose Alvarado, Anthony Davis, Rudy Gobert, Wemby, Dillion Brooks, Kawhi, Derrick White etc arent good defenders??? Ludicrous
Yes the rules make it HARDER to play defense but defenders are better now because they actually have to move their feet and cant clothesline somebody then call it "hard-nosed" defense
@@jdrmanmusiqking They are not good defenders.
@@aaa-dk6jr Stupid is your native state
redeem i love ur videos like imagine if the people from the nba actually listened to youtubers advice sometimes it might actually help them
kobe changed it for team USA, you say lebron is a leader but he hasn't won a gold as the undisputed leader without kobe or possibly curry
Now you just hating on LeBron. Curry leading USA over bron? Even when lebron doesn’t play it’s somehow his fault.. that’s why he made 10 finals appearances as the leader of his teams!!
@@DarkKnight-px7rg where I come from we celebrate WINS not invites, NO FINALS LOSERS SHOULD BE CELEBRATED and curry got 3 on lebron's head, if you say durant then that just means KD better than lebron so go ahead and just say it, pick a lane and stay in it
when you got ZERO basketball arguments you say 'HATING'
@@DarkKnight-px7rg you mispelled FRONTRUNNING not leading
LeBron beat Steph and KD lost to Steph and joined his team. Big difference. Steph hasn’t had much luck against LeBron without KD. The only one he got was the free ring in 2015.
Kobe was the best in 08’ , but struggled in 2012. LeBron was the best player on that Olympic team. Curry doesn’t have Olympic medals. He just has fiba cups and he wasn’t the undisputed leader in 2010 or 2014.
Everybody been taught to hate this country why would they wanna play for it.
Congrats on holding my attention for over 17 minutes, you're a real one
Great breakdown🔥
They don't have a stable core for many years like other teams... every year they change the roster. Lithuania, Germany, Greece, Italy, these teams have had the same core for the last 8+ years...
God, I remember the Redeem Team really well.
I'm Spanish and we lost against USA in Beijing and in London. We were amazing. We had Pau, Marc, Navarro, Rudy, Calderón, young Ricky Rubio...
And it was amazing to watch. Watching Bron, Kobe, CP3 and others play like a team was beautiful.
But European basketball is catching up. We are well oiled machines. Spain, France, Greece, Slovenia, Germany... We are competing better.
The Reason why is very simple, our NBA is focused on highlights, shooting from half court and no concern for DEFENSE. This was the first year a team with ZERO All Defensive players were on the starting lineup won a Championship. Everyone is in it for the money and no one cares about being anything more than highlighters
The NBA is a business, the world cup is a competition
If NBA voters didn't lag on recognizing good defenders, Aaron Gordon probably would have made second team all-defense this year.
@omnione12
Casuals like yourself dont even know what defense looks like... Teams play defense every night so saying what youre saying is objectively wrong
@@jdrmanmusiqking judging by your word play "casual" you must be too young and dont know shit about what I am talking about. Do some research
The NBA PPG as a team averages in
1999- (91 PPG)
2005 (97 PPG)
2010 (100.4 ppg)
2024 (114 ppg) 23+ !!!!
The Crazy part is you are watching players shoot from half court like nothing, MVPs who are winning but never making the All Defensive team and you open your mouth as if you proved something wrong
@@jdrmanmusiqking Fun Fact: Do you realize this is the first year since the inception of "All Defensive" tag that a team has won a Championship without ONE all defensive player on the starting lineup
Bro didn’t need to show phs leg bruh😫
I don’t blame players not wanting to play in the Olympics, a lot of those players come back and suffer crazy injuries. But if you play for a lottery team you really have no excuse
This is probably the most logical video on this subject I’ve seen euro basketball is on top now now America
So you're telling me that a team composed of 12 NBA players is not good eniugh against teams that has 2-3 NBA players?
The overall theme is the world caught up. There's a lot of guys who are not in the NBA who are NBA talent or at least have high enough b ball in to be in the NBA. Just situations or things that keep them somewhere else. 6 of the top 10 best players in the NBA are foreign. Last 3 mvp winners are foreign, and every year an older out his prime foreign rookie finds a spot on NBA roster. The usa style of basketball has become uncreative and predictable, and our young players seem to not have the same amount of love and respect for the actual game of basketball. They only care about what it can do for them
No excuses, those were still all stars that lost to guys that wouldn't make an nba roster. The rules and the opponents actually being good at the game of basketball is why they lost. The NBA has to get back to actually basketball rules! IE not allowing travels, moving screens etc ect. Thise proves the players of the 80s and 90s possibly even back to the 70s and 60s would smoke this generation!
Our "varsity team" we want to send out to the Olympics plays worse defense than the team we just sent to fiba.
Truth is. Nba basketball has gone soft. Defense has been watered down. And the rules are so lenient on offense, might as well be playing a different game than the one i fell in love with over 25 years ago.
Yeah the team genuinely wasn't bad... Niggas wanna find excuses for the reason that they lost..... But this generation would smoke the others just because of three pointers and the sheer amount of offensive power
Ain't no all stars on that squad!!!
Might as well take Garland and Jarred Allen and Kyle Korver and Tyrone Hill!!
JJJ is a bench all star at best, in a weak conference/lacking positional competition.
They're NOT Bird/Magic/MJ!!
@@manz7860What is you yappin about😂
What all stars?? I don’t think a single player was an all star😂
That kawhi and pop clip cracks me up every time he getting yelled at and bro starts rubbing his chin
Best NBA Channel rn!
Coach K deserved the credit, but I think it is Kobe who really change team USA with his leadership and competitiveness on and off the court that inspires the players. USA still lose even with coach K in 2006, they only start winning when Kobe arrive
Even without NBA players, Team USA should be able to from a good competitive with a bunch of players from Euroleague and G-League.
Small Ball lineup, Too much Iso, less ball movement, no rebound no defense = Epic Failure
International ball is so much more fun. The NBA is probably the worst it's been in a while. The rules are too loose. Defense isn't emphasized enough.
Welcome to Adam Silver's NBA. The worst type of leader a league can have.
The fourth problem is the mentality of America. It’s gotten very weak because we’re so coddled.
Edit: I forgot to be specific and say the ref superstar whistle and the players expectation of it will be our biggest detriment
oh so true, mental illness is being championed
@@wobbafett2464based
and self-absorbed.
The fact that lots could not accept Germany as the "World" Champ just because USA are still the best talent, shows how conceited lots of Americans are.
Lots of people including me agree that US is still the best talent. If top players played, US will win FIBA. But the fact that they didn't and the current US team lost, it's easy to understand that they are not the "World" Champ. What's there to debate?
Well, lots of Americans could not even tell the difference between _then and than,_ _their and there and they're,_ _your and you're_ despite English being their primary and only language.
@@august6281 you hit the nail in the head and they're still so arrogant to admit that street talk has dumbed them all down
Humans don't do well without adversity. That's why every empire eats itself in most uncanny, monstrous, or hilarious ways.
Don’t forget when Australia head coach kicked as with Spurs head coach , in that Coach battle in the game.
Some context in 2004 was that many star players declined to go due to terrorism concerns. USA Olympic athletes even stayed on a cruise ship offshore partly as a safety precaution.
15:47 “Im a fine guy” 😢😂 @REDEEM
Probably because international basketball won't let players take four steps.....
i love kobe's response, " i got you coach " lol
Coach spo def best choice for our coach and he’s younger too
List of things team USA needs to still dominate
1. Worlds best player
2. Winning concepts (that includes defense and offensive schemes)
3. Sad to say, officiate in a way where the games will translate better.
Excellent analysis, but I missed two things. One in 2006 Team USA lost badly in FIBA with an stacked team with Wade, Bron and Melo with more experience. And two, the "redeem team" didn't roast anyone. Indeed they hard fought some of the matches they played. Even the final was difficult. They weren't the 92' Dream Team.
And I think there is something extra that needs to be fixed. The NBA is actually a league that is based on show more thatn of a competition. A lot of scoring and little defense. In the past you had the traditional big guy that bullied the paint and that figure doesn't exist anymore. Now it's all about the 3.
It's funny because Europeans ere supposed to be the "soft" shooters and now is the US who has problems to handle the paint and spam three pointers like there's no tomorrow.
The other issue is the USA team is coach by Steve Kerr. He still thinks small ball can win but in FIBA they allow physical play. Those little guards couldn't rebound and that's why they lost. They could score but couldn't get a defensive rebound.
Bro is spitting straight facts
The bigger problem is the NBA is nothing like international play. It’s less physical, there’s more space with the wider floor and the 3 seconds rule, and they play less zone.
Basically the rules are set up to be entertaining and create high scores for the TV audience, not to train them how to compete internationally. They are playing a different game. A vastly easier one, in the US.
BINGO!! But we can overcome it with better roster construction.
Wow.. the only guy making highlight reels on this years Olympic team was Reaves... and he's a baby in the NBA??? Wtf
So what if they havent played international.
The NBA claimed to be the world champions. So even scrubs or bench players should be able to be at the top.
2004 the media already were hyping both Lebron and Melo. So not an excuse that they were just rookies. Melo went to the playoffs. Lebron was already being compared to Jordan.
The NBA needs to revive Kobe or atleast his mentality. Players now are just to comfortable. As Shaq said NO ONE is near Kobe's mentality. As Kobe said players are just playing for salary cause they are now financially comfortable or something like that.
So much stupid in this comment
As long as USA best players remain unpatriotic by refusing to represent their country, we can expect the fall to continue. COUNTRY IS BIGGER THAN THE CLUB, and those players thinks that NBA is more important than national team. Pathetic and unpatriotic.
Spo was the Assistant on the FIBA team. I get that its not the same as being the Head Coach, but I would like to think that if Spo offered some good ideas, Kerr would have listened… maybe not🤷🏾♂️
15:22 that was so clean
10:31 had to check my own ankle watchin that shit wtf
I guess they don't use magnets on the balls/rims anymore in the Olympics...
What's the point of watching an NBA game when you aren't sure the top stars will show up in the game? It's a waste of time & money. For modern NBA players it's just about getting paid & load management. MJ & Kobe's eras was peak NBA.
This is why american sport culture will forever be different from other countries. You buy tickets to a TEAM game, not to the "Kawhi Leonard incredible show". NBA has fans who go to games like they go to concerts, the rest of the world has supporters that follow their team even when they loose.
bro i didnt even realize some of the countries played basketball sheesh
I can't remember the last time I actually cared about the Olympics, the World Cup, or any other international play. Honestly, it should go back to non-professionals playing in the Olympics or any International play.
You can't play players who have barely been in the league for 3-4 years against men who are willing to die for their countries
And they really sent a squad with no center ….. and they got exposed for it
Lol. I remember after 2004 people calling him "Lebronze James".
They like the fame and money more than the actual sport nowadays. The effort and care is gone. The growth of social media and load management is killing the sport here
For the last 10 years or so, I've been saying that we need to mesh some of our best players in Europe with the NBA guys and hire a no BS coach with International Experience. Ettore Messina, David Blatt or Mike D'Antoni
The 2008 team BARELY won gold - look at the scores of the last few rounds. It is not as if the NBA All-Star team just blew out other teams by 40 - meaning the gap was getting smaller and smaller even back then
As Anthony Edwards said, "We dont have a Kobe."
Yeah, y'all dont. That's why y'all losing bad.
Exactly Kobe would be on there asses to play defense all the time usa lacks the defensive effort and playing to much iso ball they need a strategy for fiba specifically because it’s so different
Dammmmmn. If he said that my respect for him just went up immensely
Especially with how a lot of younger fans treat him like hes a future superstar in the league
@@manz7860 I think you are missing the context on that quote, which is very important.
Coach Kerr asked Edwards to come off the bench during the FIBA WC and during the conversation he said: "Even Wade came off the bench." meaning even a huge superstar like Wade sacrificed for the team when needed. Kerr wanted to mix the much more stable bench unit with the unstable starters to not have such bad starts and endings to games.
Edwards answered: "Yeah, but we don't have a Kobe." meaning that he considered himself the best player on the team and was not open to come off the bench.
In my eyes that's not really respect worthy. I get being confident about yourself, but that was likely his ego talking.
@@hissoka3138 ya that sounds more like anthony edwards
Time to congratulate the German national team on winning the World Basketball Championship 2023🥇🏆🇩🇪 not NBA Champions Denver Nuggets.
Someone led me too yoooooooooooooo
LMAOOOOOO RJ SAYING IN 2004 "Kobe said yes but he had some things going on"
they almost lost to spain in 08. world been catching up
No hunger they don't want it, too much money too comfy.
RIP Kobe ❤
It’s not load management, mentality, or effort it’s quite literally the value that international has in the eyes of fans. Even back in 96, being apart of America was still a huge deal, but we are in an age where someone has a gold medal, and it’s seen with indifference or even mockery, why would a player put any level of interest in awards that almost feel like an afterthought, so it’s going to be comprised of players who either want more national light that they won’t get in the nba, or guys who will contribute to a tournament of any kind because their team isn’t good enough,
I mean even as early as 2000 why isn’t Duncan, Shaq, Kobe, AI, and Webber not on that team? At least Jordan in 96 was somewhat understandable because of both the emotional side of the 1996 finals and the financial side with his contract, Shaq should have been on that 2000 team. And yes Kobe put some life back, but if fans walk and spit on the very tournament and then feel entitled to win don’t be shocked when it doesn’t go your way. The fans in Europe worship guys who represent their country and near cause a riot if you skip out. Same in Asia and South America. You want America’s best, then treat them with respect
I heard after 9/11 many Superstars feared a terror attack at Olympia, so they did not want to play.
It's a matter of talent, first and foremost. The USA team does not have the talent they had either in the Redeem team or the original Dream team.
Does anyone think a team comprised of Magic, Jordan, Bird, Ewing and Barclay would get anything but gold metal in the latest fiba competition?
Here come the old heads. "Back in my day we played defense. These guys now are soft. Jordan would never." 😂
Well, USA basketball also wasn’t getting punked this often back in the day. So maybe they have a point. 🤷🏽♂️
@@randoonyt270Seriously. It’s a crime on how far we’ve fallen.
that old chappelle bit "i am under SHAQ ATTACK"
those days are over, gotta show up now.
The USA Team 2023 was still the roster thats salary value was by far the highest
Its really crazy that this team didnt even get a medal
Bro you comparing us winning against Niagara in the Olympics vs losing in FIBA
Niagara Falls?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Literally, who cares? Getting that nba chip and 💰 is more important
world championship of what
People walk into the NBA and say Easier, Safer and less physical. USA really being turned out.
Spo was on the coaching staff this year tho
Oh man you blew my mind 🤯
Spoelstra would be such a good choice for team USA. And it is coming from a french supporter
Bro team USA didn't even have to go through a Greek team with Giannis or a Serbian team with Jokic, those two didn't participate.
There is no love for this country any more. No pride. The people have become comfortable, complacent, and narcissistic. The men and women in America grow up more privileged than they realize, their small minded view of the world has trapped them in a cycle of self victimization and, ironically, superiority. While everyone in America dwells on the things that they don’t have, the rest of the world watched in hunger. The people of the world see our vanity. They see our weaknesses the way one can sense them in a child, because that’s how we’re acting. America has lost it’s grace. And the saddest part is, the people will never realize it. It will take falling into the oblivion of desperation for people to realize just how beautiful this country is.
Wow this was beautiful. Thank you for putting into words what I have never been able to write myself.
@@Pgforlyfe I appreciate that, friend.
These are all just cheap excuses. Team USA lost against Lithuania, Germany and Canada. These teams all have no All-NBA players.
Germany has 4 NBA players with Franz Wagner, Moe Wagner, Schröder and Theiss. None of them are even all-stars.
The Americans just don't want to play an international tournament because they don't get extra money there. If you pay $20 million for each participant, they all come crawling out of their caves. They just don't feel obligated to the country that gave them that opportunity. They just feel obligated to themselves. And that's exactly how they play. Like filthy rich mercenaries who don't care about anything.
Shows a complete lack of pride in their country. Can you imagine if pro footballers refused to represent their country in the world cup.
Maybe they don't want because they didn't get paid 😂
My condolences Karl
Life is roblox
All these superstars like lebron and KD are committing to team usa......and none of these stars play hard defense.
Steph will be committed because he hasn't one gold yet
these guys been playing since the 2000s. They've been in the Olympics. Obviously they're not performing at the same level they would in America, but because they're great, and LeBron has polished his game since then, there is hope for the USA.
if we keep this up dillon brooks is going to drop 50 against us in the coming olympics
Losing to Dillon Brooks is a federal crime. 39 pts against team USA you deserve prison time to think about your mistakes against DB.
People hate when i say this but time and time again, Steve Kerr proves he is the most OVERRATED COACH of all time
Dude has been carried by Steph on a team Marc Jackson built his entire career and people think he's actually a good coach
Now they have to maybe face Wenbanyama if he plays in worlds