Gobert without the shadow of a doubt. Anyone can do what mitchell does these days, a very very few can be this efficient below the rim. Especially when you see his playoffs, if he trully starts to make spinmoves and be a reliable 3 pointer he'll be in the hall of fame, mitchell won't.
@@Brandonix26 his mom was the one who told him he didn't make it. She was in tears. If your mom crying doesn't make you cry, you have no soul. He said this: "I wasn't emotional because I missed out on one All-Star Game. It was way deeper than that. I was crying because of the deeper meaning," the Frenchman explained. "How much my mom means to me. How much this game of basketball means to me. Everything that we have lived through together." His mom and him had been through a lot being a single mom and being mixed race.
@@Ace-Bonez what about your mom crying because you didn't get the promotion you worked a decade for because your cubicle happened to be in the wrong spot? Humans are emotional creatures. They cry when they win and when they lose. It takes a certain kind of asshole to judge what a person subjectively values and proclaim "I don't value that as much and therefore those emotions are invalid".
Rudy didn't cry because he didn't make the all star game. He cried because something the reporter said reminded him of his mom and the struggles they had.
Wolves fans were saying this before they lost though, gobert was a liability on offense, and got cooked on defense by jokic when he’s supposed to be a dpoy
Rudy can’t guard the entire court himself and that’s how he got hated on the Jazz. On the wolves, he’s hated cuz wolves fans want an excuse for the wolves not showing up in a game
@@lightbeforethetunnel Yeah that’s true. I think people would’ve wanted McDaniels to guard Luka rather than Gobert and them switching helped Luka way more
@ItzM36Spadez Yeah that's true. Luka would have wanted any center from any team guarding him on the perimeter. Because centers are typically atrocious on perimeter defense. But Gobert haters wants to pretend like it's just because he's Gobert. Nah, they just don't understand that any center would be the same.
@@lightbeforethetunnelLord have mercy. Y'all NBA fans have the most cognitive dissonance I've ever seen. So people weren't grilling Gobert when he was getting bashed into oblivion in the post by Jokic? People weren't bashing Gobert when Denver was hunting for him play after play? When it was shown that Towns and Reid played Jokic far better than he did? Year after year in the playoffs it's shown how easy it is to beat this guy. This has nothing to do with one play with Luka. He plays weak, soft, and he's uncoordinated . His defensive instincts at it's best are just average, and usually is below average. He's not the defender y'all make him out to be. Period.
@myleekb I'm not an NBA fan, so idk what you're talking about. The NBA is not legitimate competition much of the team, with many of the games predetermined as to their outcome off the court. What you're interpreting as me being an NBA fan is actually just me pointing out fallacious reasoning of casuals who don't understand the SPORT of basketball. For example, you're claiming Gobert got grilled by Jokic in the post? Is this a joke? MN took out Denver, the defending champs. And the way that they did this was by putting an oversized PF (KAT) who played center for many years on Jokic near the perimeter but then they had Gobert roaming behind him so that Jokic essentially had to beat two centers to get to his spot near the basket where he's most effective People who don't understand basketball, particular defensive schemes, interpreted this as KAT playing better defense on Jokic than Gobert. Which is just flat out ignorant. KAT only APPEARED TO play good defense on Jokic because he had Gobert roaming behind him protecting the rim. Same for Naz Reid. If you put either KAT or Naz in a 1 on 1 scenario against Jokic. Without Gobert roaming behind them at the rim, they'd get beat almost every single time. Try looking at Gobert's advanced defensive stats in the playoffs so far, including the Denver series. It's elite across the board. People who think otherwise are ALWAYS engaging in fallacious reasoning. Every time. Usually cherry picking 1 play.
@@Pat323232 Like who? Some moron like Gilbert Arenas? People question his DPOY but that's not hate, that's debate. Plus, they have him the damn award in the first place. Nobody talks about him touching the microphones anymore-- that didn't lead to much hate. People just think he's soft/overrated. Nobody really hates him like some do Draymond, Dillon Brooks, Ben Simmons, LeBron, etc. It's like KAT, people doubt him but they don't sh!t on his name.
At least Rudy's teammates like Ant and Kat got his back. Draymond being a certified 🤡 is why the Wolves didn't want to get interviewed by the TNT crew showing their solidarity with Rudy
Well they are a bunch of misfits that will certainly fit in together. Rudy, the maligned defensive beast KAT, the "best three point shooting big man ever" in his head Ant, the loudmouth "son of MJ"
Dikembe Mutombo Career stats: 9.8 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 3,2 STOCKS, *1.8 TO* - 52% FG, *68.5% FT* - 4 DPOY Ben Wallace Career stats: 5.7 PPG, 9.8 RPG, *3,3 STOCKS,* 1 TO - 47.5% FG, 41.5% FT - 4 DPOY Dennis Rodman Career stats: 7.3 PPG, *13.1 RPG,* 1.3 STOCKS, 1.6 TO - 52% FG, 58.5% FT - 2 DPOY RUDY GOBERT Career stats: *12.7 PPG,* 11.8 RPG, 2.8 STOCKS, 1.6 TO - *65.5% FG,* 64% FT - 4 DPOY Tell me, why is Gobert hated for his subpar offense, when so many defensive greats before him are not? Noone cared if Rodman made points, or Mutombo... hell Ben Wallace was 7th in MVP voting in his prime averaging 9.5 PPG on 42%/12.5%/49% shooting splits! Wallace never averaged over 10 PPG in his entire career in the 1st place, Rodman did it once... in his 2nd NBA season! Mutombo, to his advantage, at least averaged 10+ PPG his entire prime. But so does Gobert... And can anyone imagine Mutombo trying to defend MJ in 1on1 situations on the perimeter? Or Wallace defending Kobe? Exactly... The hate has nothing to do with him as a player. It has to do with jealousy. He is the 13th higest payed player in the league right now. 13th... earning basically twice as much as Green, one of his most outspoken critics. In the last year of his current contract he will also earn 20 Mio more then Shaq ever did. Did anyone notice that all the hate actually really started AFTER he signed is Max extension in Dec of 2020? Yeah, the Covid thing wasnt good, but he wasnt the most hated player in the league at that point... but as soon as he signed that 200+ Mio contract... Petty, jealous, small minded men with big egos! Those are the ones hating on Gobert. Btw, I am a Mavs fan... a Mavs fan from Germany on top of that! So I dont really like this guy, or anything french whatsoever in the 1st place. Its in my DNA! I cheered every time Luka puts him on skates, or Lively/Gafford dunked on his head! But I am fair enough to recognize that he is clearly the best defender in the NBA for nearly a decade. And I respect that as well! Thats what men do!
Those 3 that you listed have solid iq and prediction, can guard multiple positions and are athletic. No DPOY before Rudy were under the basket merchants. I've been saying it to my friends for a long time. Gorbert does not add anything another 7 footer bench player could not do. He gets out muscled by lighter guys for rebounds, if the wolves perimeter defense collapses, he becomes a cone, he doesn't take charge to guard the ball when it enters the paint, he is reliant on others to pick up the coverage so he can play help defense. He looks good when he is on help duty. On an island 1 v 1 against another centre, he's cooked.
You bring up regular season averages when the narrative is he is a playoff liability. He literally got outplayed by both Derek lively and Daniel Gafford. Before you try to argue that it’s wrong lively shot 100% from the field! You mean to tell me Rudy can’t hold a rookie to below 100%? Or the fact that Gafford was just as dominant the last game without lively. This is not an unfair narrative. It’s the truth
@@thechosen3136 Kid, he said in this Video that Gobert had a huge pos impact on the Wolves. Best +/- on the entire roster this Postseason. He allways has! Every PO team he ever played on were better with him on the feld then when he was on the bench. You just do not understand Basketball! He didnt get outplayed by Gafford/Lively, the Wolves were outplayed by the Mavs. If anything Ant/KAT got hugely outplayed by Luka/Kyrie! Cause once more... he had the best NetRtg of the entire Wolves team in this series! Kid, I am a Mavs fan, I know exactly what Lively did and how good he is. Did he put the moves on Gobert in the post, beating him 1on1 with his back to the basket? Did he beat him off the dribble in face up situations? Or did Luka/Kyrie constantly beat the Wolves perimeter D and left Gobert on an Island defending 2 vs 1? It might sound strange to you, but 2 things can be true at once! Gobert is an elite paint defender and rim protector, but he cant do shit if he constantly has to play 2 vs 1 or out of Position. Noone can! Can we agree that Holiday is an elite Permeter and Guard defender? How would he do defending Jokic or Embiid in the post 1on1? Exactly...
@@safetymail1068 Whoever says Gobert doesnt have great defensive BB IQ has no idea what he is talking about. End of Story. Mutombo/Wallace never left the paint their entire careers. And do not only look at the Numbers... look at the Field Goal percentage. No matter the Pace! Center, specially Center who only score around the basket, should have a FG% way higher then 50%. Only one of those 4 has! None of those 4 has any real offesive Bag whatsoever. But one is at least efficient doing the view things he does.
Minnesota lost that series as a team, but if you’re gonna point fingers it’s on Ant and Kat for playing like 🤡 on both sides of the ball. The media replays the game winning shot over Rudy, but there’s plenty of highyof Kyrie and Luka making ant and kat look silly. Without Rudy Wolves are barely a first round team.
TNT should have never allowed Draymond as a panelist during the Wolves series. He literally choked Rudy out *that season* and obviously still hates him. He's a childish person that can't control his emotions - everyone knows it and so should have TNT. Shame on them
Number 1 player at the center of controversy is Draymond Green. With his stupid on court dirty plays, his stupid take on his podcast and his love for LBJ.
I got two things to say: The only attendance "issues" he had is because he missed a playoff game for THE BIRTH OF HIS CHILD 2. Imagine saying you should hate somebody because they're good at something and other people hate them. That's just uncalled for.
Nba is the only sport where most of the fans don't watch the games and only look at stats and highlight. They don't see the intangibles of the game. They don't really know anything about the game. They really care about storylines and drama. The NBA also has terrible analysts who don't know the game either.
you genuinly had a great take today, very real and genuine seeing both sides, this is the type of great type of commentary journalists and reporters these days need !
Rudy cried because he had just spoken to his mom on the phone, who was devastated herself that he did not make the All Star team. That's why he cried. So it wasn't even him thinking he should have made it, it touched on a sensitive situation that had literally just occurred
Fair. 1. He does talk trash and does slick stuff on the court and try to play innocent. 2. Just like players with offensive game get criticized for not performing in the post-season, he has to get it also because he gets cooked every postseason. 3. Ben Simmons should get more hate than he does. 😂😂
Only cuz Ben ain't playing out of sight out of mind. And Rudy hate is kinda fair, 4x dpoy shouldn't be a liability in the playoffs KAT and Reid were better on defense in the playoffs dpoy should be able to defend more than 5 feet from the basket but people should be more upset at the stupid voters.
@Pat323232 What are you talking about? Dude is the highest paid player in the team. Ant is the 4th and will be the 3rd when his extension kicks in next year. Sorry, no when you don't perform you get criticism, full stop.
the only people who really hate rudy are the ones who jump on the bandwagon during the playoff season- the true ones know that he’s always been a good player with a unique skillset
@@Chris-ot7lf get any other 7 footer there and it's the same result. Wolves defense plays around gobert, funneling to him. Once he's forced to do something like guard the midrange, he's a liability. He is the ONLY DPOY in the last 20 years whose heat map showed no presence in the key or midrange
@@safetymail1068 There are other 7 footers in the NBA and the results are not the same. A 7 foot 1 guy isn't supposed to be able to guard elite perimeter players. Other elite perimeter players can't even really guard them, so how is Gobert supposed to do it? Some of the best defenders in NBA history had no offensive game, Gobert fits right in with them.
@@LoneWolf-mu3xm I'm not talking about offense I'm talking about defense. As to the 2nd part, that is WHAT A DPOY IS SUPPOSED TO DO, GUARD MULTIPLE POSITIONS. A DPOY IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE BEST DEFENDER IN THE LEAGUE. If you are comparing him to regular players, that means he shouldn't have won DPOY. Giannis can guard multiple positions, Tatum can guard several positions, wemby can guard several positions, Kawhi can, AD can, holmgren can, even Kessler walker can. Gobert is an under the basket merchant full stop. Even Brook Lopez has higher bpg. Edit: and I'm not talking about stopping. I'm talking about GUARDING. No ball pressure, drops off players, plays help defense, not guard defense
The DOPY hate is weird. Its not like he's voting for himself, get hot at the media not him. He has no control over who votes for him and he doesn't campaign for the award.
The part you missed about Rudy is him being sneaky dirty (cp3 esque). He will have little moments that will go unnoticed but are dirty, but then tries to play the victim card and act like he’s done nothing wrong (and have apologists come to his defense). the gafford lob is the most recent example of this
@@Pat323232 when did I ever say he was dirtier than embiid? My point is making more and more sense because you guys keep defending him. He is SNEAKY dirty, like I said you don’t remember what he did when gafford yammed it on his head?
6:00 so essentially in order to get respect as a foreigner you have to be an all time great (or projected to be) wheras American role players can get spoken about highly. (I’m American btw)
Rudy could be replaced with another 7 footer and there would be no difference. Wolves perimeter defense is set up to funnel players to rudy. When that doesn't work, Rudy is a passenger
You left out colorism as one of the reasons. Rudy Gobert being a light-skinned, mixed-race dude plays a role in hatred towards him as well. Light-skinned guys are often stereotyped as being "soft" (e.g., Kobe Bryant once telling his then-teammate Jordan Clarkson -- who is also mixed-race -- to "stop playing like a light-skinned dude") in the black community. Rudy being French and crying on camera certainly didn't help matters on this front.....
I just want to say watch first play from him you showed. What was he supposed to do? Mitchell was bullied, he can help and risk an open 3 or allow an easy layup. How is he supposed to guard this? Next Luka cooking his D wasn't him being bad it was Luka being nasty. He put up great D against Joker, Jokič just decided to tear drop everything in showing superior touch. Game winner.. Well.. He stayed close, he contented that 3 pointer. I am Luka fan from Slovenia and Rudy hater but sill we have to be realistic.
You're probably right. Players may have talent but they're not always smart. Players often overemphasize whatever THEY are good at and diminish the value of other aspects of the game that they don't concentrate on as much.
As a Wolves fan, I've 100% with you in this matter. This Rudy hate ia unfair. I've not saying we shouldn't question his game, I think he could have delivered a lot more during the playoffs, but he is not a horrible player, let alone a horrible person.
I think Giannis was massively overrated by that single ring he got lucky to get. KD was a few inches short without his2 other stars. Giannis folds in the playoffs and is injury-prone now. He is basically a taller Draymond with better scoring because they interpret traveling differently than decades before.
At this point he is a easy mark, because he does not speak up for himself. Same has happened to Russell Wilson in the NFL. They are easy targets because they never bite back. When they easily could.
We shpuldn't care what people think of us when we're being ourselves. Brooks is just living life being himself and I agree, he shows up on the court. We can't control what people think of us.
International players are being held to a higher standard, Luka, Nikola and Giannis are three best players in the NBA but still get disrespected by NBA Media (Stephen A. Smith as the frontrunner) Also SGA gets praised and Luka is being told he needs to win a chip before MVP talks because he is so long around in the NBA. SGA AND LUKA ARE THE SAME AGE
It is a little undeserved but he made everyone hate him. Cuz of the stupid crap he did in the past everyone hates him, so obviously every time he messes up he gets a ton of backlash
I don't even really see why people think he did "stupid crap." When he put his hands on the microphones that was misunderstood, it was to demonstrate they had already separated the reporters from the players. He wasn't mocking Covid
Simmons self-entitlement really turns a lot of people off as well. Man shows videos of himself making 3's and jump-shots every off-season, and it's like, why show them if you won't take a dam jumper during the season 😂
Dray takes on the opposing team's best offensive player in the post season. Draymond earns every ounce of hate. The only time it's not fair is when the league treats him extra.
Dallas vs Boston on June 6th will be one of the greatest NBA finals of all time Boston has Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown well Dallas has Luca Doncic and Kyrie Irving. Total dominance on both ends of the floor😮
Believe me , he doesn't give fcuk what you fools are saying, all he knows he just got a baby, that The Wolves reached the WCF finals, he goes to Paris for the Olympics this summer, thats he became DPOY for the fourth time, and that play-in Draymond is old garbage
No one wants Gobert AT THAT PRICE. That’s really the big thing. He has another 90/M left on the 2 remaining years on his contract and after that SHOULD be re-signed more in the 10-20/M range. He is far more valuable when he’s playing in high leverage situations later in games where he’s not asked to be a perimeter defender. If KAT leaves this year for better, lower priced defenders then Rudy can just be a defensive center and not a 3-4th option. He should be strictly cleanup. Bring in two great two way players for Townes and run it back next year. Naz replaces KAT in the starting lineup and now you have far better defensive flexibility in the playoffs. KAT for someone LIKE OG would be ideal.
@@lightbeforethetunnel I was thinking it would be something like Randle, Bogdanovic and 4-5 #1 picks for Townes. I don’t think they’d lose a lot offensively with those two guys and the picks could replenish what they lost in the Gobert deal.
As we say in Baguette Country " Merci pour avoir replacé l'église au centre du village". Rudy Gobert is legit one of the absolute best french basketball player ever, it's damn time he gets a little bit of recognition from across the Atlantic, cheers and Vive la NBA ! For me the answer why he is seen as most overrated is simple, if he was born in USA he would be praised but since he is french he attracts only jealousy, sorry if you can't handle the truth
Gobert is french and he has no fanbase. Its mostly the same people hating on Gobert that are hating on every successfull european player, but unlike some of those other high profile guys hating on Gobert results in no pushback.
He has a decent fanbase (+800k on IG). Interesting to note that when digging a little, it seems like most of his fanbase are middle aged ladies and men. He definitely doesn't appeal to 15 years olds who think peak basketball is just flashy like Ja Morant
The 4x DPOY was rendered useless in the last 2 playoff series he played... he is overrated as much as his teammate KAT who wants to be remembered as the best shooting big in history and shoots for 12% from 3 in one of the franchise's biggest moments...
for sur comparing to Simmons and Brooks , Gobert deserve a lot less to be hated, he just did one stupid thing during covid and he is a specialized defensive player in an era of offensive polyvalence , and some of the guys that trash him are trashing in the same time this era because the defensie aspect of the game is less physical and because the "soft" european are taking over, just try to be a bit logic
Plus/minus means absolutely nothing. Even if it happens to line up with your play, that just coincidence. A correlation not equaling causation type of thing. It's not an individual stat. Its a circumstantial stat based on everything that everyone does or doesn't do while u happen to be on the court and is not a causation of what u did on the court. U can play terrible and have a great +/-, and u can play great and have a terrible +/-
@lightbeforethetunnel I didn't make any comment about Rudy, or rather he's good or not. Just commenting about the stat alone. It's extremely convoluted, and most ppl don't know are give any thought to how it's calculated. It's not a stat that's based on your play, it's based on everyone on the courts play and credited to u, good or bad. It's a really bad stat is all I was saying. Didn't mention Rudy at all, it wasn't Rudy hate.
@cameronno6039 Wasn't talking about or hating on Rudy. Just the stat. I'd guess, based on your reply, that u, like most, dont thoroughly comprehend how it works, how a teams gameplan affects it, and more, which is all I was saying, but all good, nothing important enough to blindly debate about.
@@dwaynehiler5735 🤣Guess that all you want. It isn't perfect, but no stat is. However, over long periods, the value increases. If a person predominantly plays with starters and they have a huge impact (as Rudy showed), ignoring it seems obtuse. However, the value decreases with role players and people with few minutes. I'll put it this way, if I am in an NBA game and every game my minutes show the opponent scored 40 more points than when I am out, it won't look great for my agent. Conversely, regardless of stats, if I am winning and my impact shows we go plus 40 during my 40 minutes, I'm earning my keep. It doesn't show the full picture, but it's complimentary. But I can see how you might not "comprehend that" 🤪
NBA really needs to start fining people for doing that heroin emote. There is absolutely nothing cool about pretending you shot up because you think you made a great shot. People dying over that stuff and yet some people seem to think its cool to pretend they got "dope in their viens". I mean, really? What if someone makes a great shot and then does an emote like they are lighting up the crack pipe? Is that acceptable? I know damn well yall dont play around with drug use. And yet drug use emotes are okay?
I have no issue RG besides being a multiple time Dpoy can not guard an all star when it counts. Are they trying to increase viewers statistics in France? Alex Caruso shows up ever game & it seems like the suggestion he deserved it was appalling. The league is being lead by the marketing dept it appears.
There’s footage of almost every all time great defender in the modern era getting deep fried by a great offensive talent yet for some reason only Gobert gets out under the microscope
You forgot one of the reason for the hate is his massive contract and trade assets. Draymond is also the main team defense anchor on gsw but he doesn’t get nearly as much money and if he were traded i doubt the value would be as big as Rudy did. Draymond is also not a liability when switched in the playoffs and he has way more offensive capabilities than Rudy. So I understand why he hates Rudy that much
His contract is irrelevant. Draymond is a huge liability. He can't shoot. He can pass, and that's about it. Draymond on any other team would be a bench guy, and on his current team, he's an absentee guy. He does a ton of hating for someone who couldn't make the playoffs this year.
Gobert isn't a liability on D in the playoffs. That narrative was created by fools / casuals who just watched one play... and ppl who think that if you're a DPOY they you NEVER should get scored on. It's just dumb fallacious reasoning. All Advanced stats show he's elite on defense in both the regular season and the playoffs.
@myleekb He was elite then too. The reason why it was so effective to put KAT on Jokic is because Gobert was doing rim protection. Gobert's impact is strongest that way when he's a help defender at the rim, and the rest of the team funnels the ball handler into Gobert. That's what they were doing.
@myleekb It's most effective for MN to put an oversized PF (who played center for years) on Jokic up front, but then have Gobert there at the rim too. It basically makes it so Jokic has to beat TWO centers to get shots off near the rim, where he's most effective. Gobert is by far the superior defender to KAT when used this way, although KAT is probably better at perimeter D (which is where he would guard Jokic and then funnel him into Gobert near the rim)
Listen stats are deceptive. Time after time, after timeRudy has under performed in the post season. You can't be that big, that long and the entire league is NOT worrying about coing down the lane. Big men, Shaq, Ewing, Mourning, Oakley even. When guys knew they were playing other players knew it was going to be a night. Luka exposed him on primetime. When you are DPOY teams shouldn't WANT to catch you in the switch so they can for SURE exploit YOUR defense
What you're saying doesn't make sense as better offense always beats defense. Just look at Jordan, Shaq or Curry. Jordan had to be stopped by the Jordan rules and the only way to get around it was team play. Shaq bullied Mutumbo in 2001. Even Wallace was strugling 1v1.
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Who would you rather have on your team? Rudy Gobert or Donovan Mitchell?
Spida ofc
I would say Donovan Mitchell
That wasn't a fair question 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Donovan
Gobert without the shadow of a doubt. Anyone can do what mitchell does these days, a very very few can be this efficient below the rim.
Especially when you see his playoffs, if he trully starts to make spinmoves and be a reliable 3 pointer he'll be in the hall of fame, mitchell won't.
Ben Simmons deserves more hate
Yup, and now he's back to his pre-season photo shoots
bro I forgot about the "Shoot it Ben!" clip it caught me off guard
He definitely says "bitch"
Few get the "crying" right. He teared up because of his mom's reaction to him not making the team.
What did she say to him?
@@Brandonix26 his mom was the one who told him he didn't make it. She was in tears. If your mom crying doesn't make you cry, you have no soul.
He said this: "I wasn't emotional because I missed out on one All-Star Game. It was way deeper than that. I was crying because of the deeper meaning," the Frenchman explained. "How much my mom means to me. How much this game of basketball means to me. Everything that we have lived through together."
His mom and him had been through a lot being a single mom and being mixed race.
@@tripzero0 thanks, i have no soul
@tripzero0 it depends what my mom crying about. My mom crying about me not making the all star ain't gonna make me cry lol
@@Ace-Bonez what about your mom crying because you didn't get the promotion you worked a decade for because your cubicle happened to be in the wrong spot?
Humans are emotional creatures. They cry when they win and when they lose. It takes a certain kind of asshole to judge what a person subjectively values and proclaim "I don't value that as much and therefore those emotions are invalid".
Rudy didn't cry because he didn't make the all star game. He cried because something the reporter said reminded him of his mom and the struggles they had.
When the wolves are winning
they like "Ant is him"
when they lost "Gobert suck"🤣🤣🤣
Shit rolls downhill, cold world.
Well to be fair gobert was getting cooked before they were losing, and everyone knew that from the denver series
@@CahlilWessoncooked by a multiple MVP??? Is there a 7 footer that could guard Jokic? Or luka? You’re a casual
@@CahlilWessonEdward got cooked every game against the Mavericks exactly why they lost.
Wolves fans were saying this before they lost though, gobert was a liability on offense, and got cooked on defense by jokic when he’s supposed to be a dpoy
Rudy can’t guard the entire court himself and that’s how he got hated on the Jazz. On the wolves, he’s hated cuz wolves fans want an excuse for the wolves not showing up in a game
Wolves fans mostly defend Gobert. It's non-Wolves fans hating on him because they evaluate him based on 1 play they saw (the Luka game winner).
@@lightbeforethetunnel Yeah that’s true. I think people would’ve wanted McDaniels to guard Luka rather than Gobert and them switching helped Luka way more
@ItzM36Spadez Yeah that's true. Luka would have wanted any center from any team guarding him on the perimeter. Because centers are typically atrocious on perimeter defense.
But Gobert haters wants to pretend like it's just because he's Gobert. Nah, they just don't understand that any center would be the same.
@@lightbeforethetunnelLord have mercy. Y'all NBA fans have the most cognitive dissonance I've ever seen. So people weren't grilling Gobert when he was getting bashed into oblivion in the post by Jokic? People weren't bashing Gobert when Denver was hunting for him play after play? When it was shown that Towns and Reid played Jokic far better than he did? Year after year in the playoffs it's shown how easy it is to beat this guy. This has nothing to do with one play with Luka. He plays weak, soft, and he's uncoordinated . His defensive instincts at it's best are just average, and usually is below average. He's not the defender y'all make him out to be. Period.
@myleekb I'm not an NBA fan, so idk what you're talking about. The NBA is not legitimate competition much of the team, with many of the games predetermined as to their outcome off the court.
What you're interpreting as me being an NBA fan is actually just me pointing out fallacious reasoning of casuals who don't understand the SPORT of basketball. For example, you're claiming Gobert got grilled by Jokic in the post? Is this a joke? MN took out Denver, the defending champs.
And the way that they did this was by putting an oversized PF (KAT) who played center for many years on Jokic near the perimeter but then they had Gobert roaming behind him so that Jokic essentially had to beat two centers to get to his spot near the basket where he's most effective
People who don't understand basketball, particular defensive schemes, interpreted this as KAT playing better defense on Jokic than Gobert. Which is just flat out ignorant.
KAT only APPEARED TO play good defense on Jokic because he had Gobert roaming behind him protecting the rim.
Same for Naz Reid. If you put either KAT or Naz in a 1 on 1 scenario against Jokic. Without Gobert roaming behind them at the rim, they'd get beat almost every single time.
Try looking at Gobert's advanced defensive stats in the playoffs so far, including the Denver series. It's elite across the board.
People who think otherwise are ALWAYS engaging in fallacious reasoning. Every time. Usually cherry picking 1 play.
Players like Embiid and Draymond beef with him. Beyond that I don't think anybody really hates him. Luka and him hugged right after game 5
You’re delusional. Every other former NBA’s podcast has been taking shots at him and his character since Covid. You been living under a rock?
Luka said he’s slow lol
Ticket hates him
@@Pat323232 Like who? Some moron like Gilbert Arenas? People question his DPOY but that's not hate, that's debate. Plus, they have him the damn award in the first place. Nobody talks about him touching the microphones anymore-- that didn't lead to much hate.
People just think he's soft/overrated. Nobody really hates him like some do Draymond, Dillon Brooks, Ben Simmons, LeBron, etc. It's like KAT, people doubt him but they don't sh!t on his name.
He has no offensive game if he did he would be liked more
At least Rudy's teammates like Ant and Kat got his back. Draymond being a certified 🤡 is why the Wolves didn't want to get interviewed by the TNT crew showing their solidarity with Rudy
Mr triple single can't stand Rudy have been paid more than him
kat is a joke himself lmao
Well they are a bunch of misfits that will certainly fit in together.
Rudy, the maligned defensive beast
KAT, the "best three point shooting big man ever" in his head
Ant, the loudmouth "son of MJ"
@@jeffgumawid7554 is the Warriors fan whining cus his team didn't make the play-offs?
@@ibrahimgultekin1366 Nah. Just a casual NBA watcher with no particular team.
Draymond can get stomped in the nuts for 82 games for all I care. 😂
Dikembe Mutombo Career stats: 9.8 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 3,2 STOCKS, *1.8 TO* - 52% FG, *68.5% FT* - 4 DPOY
Ben Wallace Career stats: 5.7 PPG, 9.8 RPG, *3,3 STOCKS,* 1 TO - 47.5% FG, 41.5% FT - 4 DPOY
Dennis Rodman Career stats: 7.3 PPG, *13.1 RPG,* 1.3 STOCKS, 1.6 TO - 52% FG, 58.5% FT - 2 DPOY
RUDY GOBERT Career stats: *12.7 PPG,* 11.8 RPG, 2.8 STOCKS, 1.6 TO - *65.5% FG,* 64% FT - 4 DPOY
Tell me, why is Gobert hated for his subpar offense, when so many defensive greats before him are not? Noone cared if Rodman made points, or Mutombo... hell Ben Wallace was 7th in MVP voting in his prime averaging 9.5 PPG on 42%/12.5%/49% shooting splits! Wallace never averaged over 10 PPG in his entire career in the 1st place, Rodman did it once... in his 2nd NBA season! Mutombo, to his advantage, at least averaged 10+ PPG his entire prime. But so does Gobert... And can anyone imagine Mutombo trying to defend MJ in 1on1 situations on the perimeter? Or Wallace defending Kobe? Exactly...
The hate has nothing to do with him as a player. It has to do with jealousy. He is the 13th higest payed player in the league right now. 13th... earning basically twice as much as Green, one of his most outspoken critics. In the last year of his current contract he will also earn 20 Mio more then Shaq ever did. Did anyone notice that all the hate actually really started AFTER he signed is Max extension in Dec of 2020? Yeah, the Covid thing wasnt good, but he wasnt the most hated player in the league at that point... but as soon as he signed that 200+ Mio contract... Petty, jealous, small minded men with big egos! Those are the ones hating on Gobert.
Btw, I am a Mavs fan... a Mavs fan from Germany on top of that! So I dont really like this guy, or anything french whatsoever in the 1st place. Its in my DNA! I cheered every time Luka puts him on skates, or Lively/Gafford dunked on his head! But I am fair enough to recognize that he is clearly the best defender in the NBA for nearly a decade. And I respect that as well! Thats what men do!
Those 3 that you listed have solid iq and prediction, can guard multiple positions and are athletic. No DPOY before Rudy were under the basket merchants. I've been saying it to my friends for a long time. Gorbert does not add anything another 7 footer bench player could not do. He gets out muscled by lighter guys for rebounds, if the wolves perimeter defense collapses, he becomes a cone, he doesn't take charge to guard the ball when it enters the paint, he is reliant on others to pick up the coverage so he can play help defense. He looks good when he is on help duty. On an island 1 v 1 against another centre, he's cooked.
You bring up regular season averages when the narrative is he is a playoff liability. He literally got outplayed by both Derek lively and Daniel Gafford. Before you try to argue that it’s wrong lively shot 100% from the field! You mean to tell me Rudy can’t hold a rookie to below 100%? Or the fact that Gafford was just as dominant the last game without lively. This is not an unfair narrative. It’s the truth
When you adjust for the point inflation he is trash, he would be better in that era
@@thechosen3136 Kid, he said in this Video that Gobert had a huge pos impact on the Wolves. Best +/- on the entire roster this Postseason. He allways has! Every PO team he ever played on were better with him on the feld then when he was on the bench. You just do not understand Basketball!
He didnt get outplayed by Gafford/Lively, the Wolves were outplayed by the Mavs. If anything Ant/KAT got hugely outplayed by Luka/Kyrie! Cause once more... he had the best NetRtg of the entire Wolves team in this series!
Kid, I am a Mavs fan, I know exactly what Lively did and how good he is. Did he put the moves on Gobert in the post, beating him 1on1 with his back to the basket? Did he beat him off the dribble in face up situations? Or did Luka/Kyrie constantly beat the Wolves perimeter D and left Gobert on an Island defending 2 vs 1? It might sound strange to you, but 2 things can be true at once! Gobert is an elite paint defender and rim protector, but he cant do shit if he constantly has to play 2 vs 1 or out of Position. Noone can!
Can we agree that Holiday is an elite Permeter and Guard defender? How would he do defending Jokic or Embiid in the post 1on1? Exactly...
@@safetymail1068 Whoever says Gobert doesnt have great defensive BB IQ has no idea what he is talking about. End of Story.
Mutombo/Wallace never left the paint their entire careers. And do not only look at the Numbers... look at the Field Goal percentage. No matter the Pace! Center, specially Center who only score around the basket, should have a FG% way higher then 50%. Only one of those 4 has! None of those 4 has any real offesive Bag whatsoever. But one is at least efficient doing the view things he does.
When your 2 best players doesn't play well and go for 16 point each it cant be rudy's fault im sorry
When you're 8' tall and get paid $43mil a year, you can't have the same number of rebounds as Luka and Kyrie in an elimination game.
@@boricketts8367When you get pushed by the media run your mouth and get paid like Edwards you can't say I'm tired boss.
I was not a fan of Rudy but now I see how biased I was. Thank you.
GIVE RUDY THE CREDIT HE DESERVES, PLEASE!
@@carmenDS1234True this video really opened my eyes about rudy😢❤
Naw show me his playoffs
Rudy is a great human being and a great basketball player. I love him.
Minnesota lost that series as a team, but if you’re gonna point fingers it’s on Ant and Kat for playing like 🤡 on both sides of the ball. The media replays the game winning shot over Rudy, but there’s plenty of highyof Kyrie and Luka making ant and kat look silly. Without Rudy Wolves are barely a first round team.
I see so many people wearing Rudy jerseys at practice, so I think kids realise his skill.
And the fact that he doesn't have all the BS attitude.
@@J.J.J.J.J.J.Jikr? He just wants to play the game, which he does well
@@livingthecubelife3944 Yup, exactly.
cap wtf
TNT should have never allowed Draymond as a panelist during the Wolves series. He literally choked Rudy out *that season* and obviously still hates him. He's a childish person that can't control his emotions - everyone knows it and so should have TNT. Shame on them
Gobert hate is just a scapegoat for bandwagons who only gets to know NBA during playoffs or finals, when everybody talks about it.
Number 1 player at the center of controversy is Draymond Green. With his stupid on court dirty plays, his stupid take on his podcast and his love for LBJ.
Exactly. If Draymond Green doesn't like a player, it probably means that player should be liked.
You forgot to mention your boy Draymond "Flagrant 2" Green
Ofc he did lol
@@Nice-sm5hr Dray takes on the opposing team's best offensive player in the post season. And Drays hate is well earned.
I got two things to say:
The only attendance "issues" he had is because he missed a playoff game for THE BIRTH OF HIS CHILD
2. Imagine saying you should hate somebody because they're good at something and other people hate them. That's just uncalled for.
Nba is the only sport where most of the fans don't watch the games and only look at stats and highlight. They don't see the intangibles of the game. They don't really know anything about the game. They really care about storylines and drama. The NBA also has terrible analysts who don't know the game either.
Is funny, because every nba fan love the stadistic fact, but only with Gobert they over sea that info
you genuinly had a great take today, very real and genuine seeing both sides, this is the type of great type of commentary journalists and reporters these days need !
Rudy cried because he had just spoken to his mom on the phone, who was devastated herself that he did not make the All Star team. That's why he cried. So it wasn't even him thinking he should have made it, it touched on a sensitive situation that had literally just occurred
Gobert shuts down 1 of Jokic's offensive tactics, Aaron Gordon, and that alone deserves the credit it deserves.
Fair. 1. He does talk trash and does slick stuff on the court and try to play innocent. 2. Just like players with offensive game get criticized for not performing in the post-season, he has to get it also because he gets cooked every postseason. 3. Ben Simmons should get more hate than he does. 😂😂
Only cuz Ben ain't playing out of sight out of mind. And Rudy hate is kinda fair, 4x dpoy shouldn't be a liability in the playoffs KAT and Reid were better on defense in the playoffs dpoy should be able to defend more than 5 feet from the basket but people should be more upset at the stupid voters.
@@YeshuaspupilLiability? The advance metrics show that the Wolves are better with him on the court.
@@MigIggon defense and not by much, offense he was a burden
Another delusional casual who’s attention span for the game doesn’t exist outside of the superstars 😊
@Pat323232 What are you talking about? Dude is the highest paid player in the team. Ant is the 4th and will be the 3rd when his extension kicks in next year. Sorry, no when you don't perform you get criticism, full stop.
the only people who really hate rudy are the ones who jump on the bandwagon during the playoff season- the true ones know that he’s always been a good player with a unique skillset
Your transitions to the next video at the end are some of the best I’ve seen. This is the third video I’ve watched in a row! 😂
Its not fair at all
Hes a really good player but is not seen as one
Good as a bench player, not good enough to be a 4 x DPOY
@@safetymail1068not true check the stats
@@Chris-ot7lf get any other 7 footer there and it's the same result. Wolves defense plays around gobert, funneling to him. Once he's forced to do something like guard the midrange, he's a liability. He is the ONLY DPOY in the last 20 years whose heat map showed no presence in the key or midrange
@@safetymail1068 There are other 7 footers in the NBA and the results are not the same. A 7 foot 1 guy isn't supposed to be able to guard elite perimeter players. Other elite perimeter players can't even really guard them, so how is Gobert supposed to do it? Some of the best defenders in NBA history had no offensive game, Gobert fits right in with them.
@@LoneWolf-mu3xm I'm not talking about offense I'm talking about defense. As to the 2nd part, that is WHAT A DPOY IS SUPPOSED TO DO, GUARD MULTIPLE POSITIONS. A DPOY IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE BEST DEFENDER IN THE LEAGUE.
If you are comparing him to regular players, that means he shouldn't have won DPOY. Giannis can guard multiple positions, Tatum can guard several positions, wemby can guard several positions, Kawhi can, AD can, holmgren can, even Kessler walker can.
Gobert is an under the basket merchant full stop. Even Brook Lopez has higher bpg.
Edit: and I'm not talking about stopping. I'm talking about GUARDING. No ball pressure, drops off players, plays help defense, not guard defense
The DOPY hate is weird. Its not like he's voting for himself, get hot at the media not him. He has no control over who votes for him and he doesn't campaign for the award.
The part you missed about Rudy is him being sneaky dirty (cp3 esque). He will have little moments that will go unnoticed but are dirty, but then tries to play the victim card and act like he’s done nothing wrong (and have apologists come to his defense). the gafford lob is the most recent example of this
To say he’s dirtier or more malicious than other NBA players like Embiid or others, you’re delusional and just a salty hater 😂
Dennis Rodman was way dirtier and is praised for it because it's part of the defense, not to mention the whole Pistons bad boys narrative
You can find dirty plays from any player if you look hard enough. Gobert is not dirtier than most, by any means.
@@Pat323232 when did I ever say he was dirtier than embiid? My point is making more and more sense because you guys keep defending him. He is SNEAKY dirty, like I said you don’t remember what he did when gafford yammed it on his head?
@@radicalmatamune different era, the Rodman of our time is ridiculed for it and rightfully so
6:00 so essentially in order to get respect as a foreigner you have to be an all time great (or projected to be) wheras American role players can get spoken about highly. (I’m American btw)
Rudy could be replaced with another 7 footer and there would be no difference. Wolves perimeter defense is set up to funnel players to rudy. When that doesn't work, Rudy is a passenger
You left out colorism as one of the reasons. Rudy Gobert being a light-skinned, mixed-race dude plays a role in hatred towards him as well. Light-skinned guys are often stereotyped as being "soft" (e.g., Kobe Bryant once telling his then-teammate Jordan Clarkson -- who is also mixed-race -- to "stop playing like a light-skinned dude") in the black community. Rudy being French and crying on camera certainly didn't help matters on this front.....
Sounds like a big racist mess
You’ve changed up the sad music background a bit and im here for it but I do miss the bad Santa theme song in the background 🎶
I just want to say watch first play from him you showed. What was he supposed to do? Mitchell was bullied, he can help and risk an open 3 or allow an easy layup. How is he supposed to guard this?
Next Luka cooking his D wasn't him being bad it was Luka being nasty. He put up great D against Joker, Jokič just decided to tear drop everything in showing superior touch. Game winner.. Well.. He stayed close, he contented that 3 pointer.
I am Luka fan from Slovenia and Rudy hater but sill we have to be realistic.
I think star players hate him because he's so offensively inept and is earning as much as them. Luka on that postup attempt legit looked offended 😂
You're probably right. Players may have talent but they're not always smart. Players often overemphasize whatever THEY are good at and diminish the value of other aspects of the game that they don't concentrate on as much.
As a Wolves fan, I've 100% with you in this matter. This Rudy hate ia unfair. I've not saying we shouldn't question his game, I think he could have delivered a lot more during the playoffs, but he is not a horrible player, let alone a horrible person.
@6:15 That's not accurate, years ago they were saying Giannis has no skill at all!😂Harden was saying all he does is run and dunk!
I think Giannis was massively overrated by that single ring he got lucky to get. KD was a few inches short without his2 other stars. Giannis folds in the playoffs and is injury-prone now. He is basically a taller Draymond with better scoring because they interpret traveling differently than decades before.
Don't judge the people by a single mistake. Likewise, do not make reasons for you to be judged
Ben Simmons best fit in Spurs, Wizards, Magic or Suns
At this point he is a easy mark, because he does not speak up for himself. Same has happened to Russell Wilson in the NFL. They are easy targets because they never bite back. When they easily could.
We shpuldn't care what people think of us when we're being ourselves. Brooks is just living life being himself and I agree, he shows up on the court. We can't control what people think of us.
Ppl don’t hate Dillon Brooks anymore
Xenophobia??a topic for another day
Wasn't he crying because he just recently lost his mother when that interview happened?
Rudy Gobert is not bad sure he is a little overrated but he is one of the best defensive players in the league and can sometimes help on offense
International players are being held to a higher standard, Luka, Nikola and Giannis are three best players in the NBA but still get disrespected by NBA Media (Stephen A. Smith as the frontrunner)
Also SGA gets praised and Luka is being told he needs to win a chip before MVP talks because he is so long around in the NBA.
SGA AND LUKA ARE THE SAME AGE
It is a little undeserved but he made everyone hate him. Cuz of the stupid crap he did in the past everyone hates him, so obviously every time he messes up he gets a ton of backlash
Sheesh its in the fucking past man, might as well move on
I don't even really see why people think he did "stupid crap." When he put his hands on the microphones that was misunderstood, it was to demonstrate they had already separated the reporters from the players. He wasn't mocking Covid
He'd be the #3 player on his team.... #1 and #2 didnt really show up.
Simmons self-entitlement really turns a lot of people off as well. Man shows videos of himself making 3's and jump-shots every off-season, and it's like, why show them if you won't take a dam jumper during the season 😂
Funny...you skipped Draymond.
Draymond is disliked by many (most?) fans, but is he disliked within the league like these other guys?
Dray takes on the opposing team's best offensive player in the post season. Draymond earns every ounce of hate. The only time it's not fair is when the league treats him extra.
@@ZoraDelaney yes, he is.
@@virginiachris80False just watch the Warriors finals he's never on Lebron James.
@@virginiachris80lmaooo did Rudy not take on Luka? Jokic? Just say you don’t watch basketball little bro
Dallas vs Boston on June 6th will be one of the greatest NBA finals of all time Boston has Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown well Dallas has Luca Doncic and Kyrie Irving. Total dominance on both ends of the floor😮
LuCry DonB*tch gonna yell at his teammates when they bout to get sweep 🤣🤣🤣
Apples are red oranges are orange
Draymond is more hated I think
That's justified, though. Gobert doesn't deserve it.
Believe me , he doesn't give fcuk what you fools are saying, all he knows he just got a baby, that The Wolves reached the WCF finals, he goes to Paris for the Olympics this summer, thats he became DPOY for the fourth time, and that play-in Draymond is old garbage
I fr thought Ben Simmons was gonna become a ginass type player was disappointed
7:44 Anyone know what happened to Norris after getting banged by Joker? That looked like getting whiplashed
No one wants Gobert AT THAT PRICE.
That’s really the big thing. He has another 90/M left on the 2 remaining years on his contract and after that SHOULD be re-signed more in the 10-20/M range. He is far more valuable when he’s playing in high leverage situations later in games where he’s not asked to be a perimeter defender. If KAT leaves this year for better, lower priced defenders then Rudy can just be a defensive center and not a 3-4th option.
He should be strictly cleanup. Bring in two great two way players for Townes and run it back next year. Naz replaces KAT in the starting lineup and now you have far better defensive flexibility in the playoffs. KAT for someone LIKE OG would be ideal.
Ain't Gobert's fault that they wrote him a massive check.
I like your plan moving forward for the Wolves I was thinking a similar thing
@@lightbeforethetunnel I was thinking it would be something like Randle, Bogdanovic and 4-5 #1 picks for Townes. I don’t think they’d lose a lot offensively with those two guys and the picks could replenish what they lost in the Gobert deal.
Just bad matchup, nuggets would have mashed mavs..
After that 3, Doncic looked like a rabid maniac talking trash lmao.
As we say in Baguette Country " Merci pour avoir replacé l'église au centre du village". Rudy Gobert is legit one of the absolute best french basketball player ever, it's damn time he gets a little bit of recognition from across the Atlantic, cheers and Vive la NBA ! For me the answer why he is seen as most overrated is simple, if he was born in USA he would be praised but since he is french he attracts only jealousy, sorry if you can't handle the truth
I think that footage that Embiid hiding his face bec. of Bell's palsy
Whos here when jerry west died?
he would be a good bench center but playing as a starter, i dont think he can be so effective
Ppl so weird leave Rudy alone 😢
Gobert is french and he has no fanbase. Its mostly the same people hating on Gobert that are hating on every successfull european player, but unlike some of those other high profile guys hating on Gobert results in no pushback.
He has a decent fanbase (+800k on IG). Interesting to note that when digging a little, it seems like most of his fanbase are middle aged ladies and men. He definitely doesn't appeal to 15 years olds who think peak basketball is just flashy like Ja Morant
HE IS THE REASON FOR THEIR SUCCESS.. THIS WAS A “COACHING ISSUE” 💯
Why is the video the very same video A.M Hoop did on Gorbert?
I think this stems from him garnering a contract with money that's almost in the upper echelon of salaries.
The 4x DPOY was rendered useless in the last 2 playoff series he played... he is overrated as much as his teammate KAT who wants to be remembered as the best shooting big in history and shoots for 12% from 3 in one of the franchise's biggest moments...
Cassssuaaaal
Exactly. These people give Rudy excuses for playing Kevin Durant tier defense in the playoffs lmao.
KAT elbowed or kneed Dallas players 3 times in 2 games. He needs to be acknowledged as the dirtiest player in the NBA.
I think he’s deserving of the dmvps but he’s a max player without an offensive skillset. Hasn’t improved offensively which is disappointing
It's gotta be those bleach blonde tips he had coming into Minnesota.
I wonder how good Ben Wallace or Hakeem would be if they were in today's NBA. Would their defense look like Rudy's, or would they be better?
Finally no talking about the warriors every video
Should Gobert join the Warriors? Next video coming up.
Dylon brings the aggression we missed in nba duh..... nba should never be friendly 😒
for sur comparing to Simmons and Brooks , Gobert deserve a lot less to be hated, he just did one stupid thing during covid and he is a specialized defensive player in an era of offensive polyvalence , and some of the guys that trash him are trashing in the same time this era because the defensie aspect of the game is less physical and because the "soft" european are taking over, just try to be a bit logic
5:34 dont tell me he didnt travel😅
Zero step frfr 😊
Lots of stories to dig into here. The microscope is rough.
No. KAT is the real defensive issue. Trade KAT to get a worse big and a 3-and -D PG
Plus/minus means absolutely nothing. Even if it happens to line up with your play, that just coincidence. A correlation not equaling causation type of thing. It's not an individual stat. Its a circumstantial stat based on everything that everyone does or doesn't do while u happen to be on the court and is not a causation of what u did on the court. U can play terrible and have a great +/-, and u can play great and have a terrible +/-
Over the course of 3 rounds... it matters. Denying it is foolish when Rudy played over 30 mpg.
All the advanced stats show that Gobert is an all-time great defender, though. Not just the plus minus he showed
@lightbeforethetunnel I didn't make any comment about Rudy, or rather he's good or not. Just commenting about the stat alone. It's extremely convoluted, and most ppl don't know are give any thought to how it's calculated. It's not a stat that's based on your play, it's based on everyone on the courts play and credited to u, good or bad. It's a really bad stat is all I was saying. Didn't mention Rudy at all, it wasn't Rudy hate.
@cameronno6039 Wasn't talking about or hating on Rudy. Just the stat. I'd guess, based on your reply, that u, like most, dont thoroughly comprehend how it works, how a teams gameplan affects it, and more, which is all I was saying, but all good, nothing important enough to blindly debate about.
@@dwaynehiler5735 🤣Guess that all you want. It isn't perfect, but no stat is. However, over long periods, the value increases. If a person predominantly plays with starters and they have a huge impact (as Rudy showed), ignoring it seems obtuse. However, the value decreases with role players and people with few minutes.
I'll put it this way, if I am in an NBA game and every game my minutes show the opponent scored 40 more points than when I am out, it won't look great for my agent. Conversely, regardless of stats, if I am winning and my impact shows we go plus 40 during my 40 minutes, I'm earning my keep. It doesn't show the full picture, but it's complimentary. But I can see how you might not "comprehend that" 🤪
No way i literally just went to a random video to see if this dude hates dillon brooks so much and yes he does😂😂
I realise that too.. the moment rudy was off..Marvs had more advantage..These espn guys dont evn know what they are talking about ..
NBA really needs to start fining people for doing that heroin emote.
There is absolutely nothing cool about pretending you shot up because you think you made a great shot. People dying over that stuff and yet some people seem to think its cool to pretend they got "dope in their viens".
I mean, really? What if someone makes a great shot and then does an emote like they are lighting up the crack pipe? Is that acceptable? I know damn well yall dont play around with drug use. And yet drug use emotes are okay?
At least he makes an effort to play unlike Ben Suckins.
I have no issue RG besides being a multiple time Dpoy can not guard an all star when it counts. Are they trying to increase viewers statistics in France? Alex Caruso shows up ever game & it seems like the suggestion he deserved it was appalling. The league is being lead by the marketing dept it appears.
There’s footage of almost every all time great defender in the modern era getting deep fried by a great offensive talent yet for some reason only Gobert gets out under the microscope
You forgot one of the reason for the hate is his massive contract and trade assets. Draymond is also the main team defense anchor on gsw but he doesn’t get nearly as much money and if he were traded i doubt the value would be as big as Rudy did. Draymond is also not a liability when switched in the playoffs and he has way more offensive capabilities than Rudy. So I understand why he hates Rudy that much
His contract is irrelevant. Draymond is a huge liability. He can't shoot. He can pass, and that's about it. Draymond on any other team would be a bench guy, and on his current team, he's an absentee guy. He does a ton of hating for someone who couldn't make the playoffs this year.
Gobert isn't a liability on D in the playoffs. That narrative was created by fools / casuals who just watched one play... and ppl who think that if you're a DPOY they you NEVER should get scored on. It's just dumb fallacious reasoning. All Advanced stats show he's elite on defense in both the regular season and the playoffs.
@@lightbeforethetunnelhow elite was he when Denver was doing everything possible to get Kat off of Jokic and Gobert on him?
@myleekb He was elite then too. The reason why it was so effective to put KAT on Jokic is because Gobert was doing rim protection. Gobert's impact is strongest that way when he's a help defender at the rim, and the rest of the team funnels the ball handler into Gobert.
That's what they were doing.
@myleekb It's most effective for MN to put an oversized PF (who played center for years) on Jokic up front, but then have Gobert there at the rim too. It basically makes it so Jokic has to beat TWO centers to get shots off near the rim, where he's most effective.
Gobert is by far the superior defender to KAT when used this way, although KAT is probably better at perimeter D (which is where he would guard Jokic and then funnel him into Gobert near the rim)
Nothing wrong with Gobert. Dylan Brooks is the 🤡 clown in this piece.
Draymonds comment on Rudy were borderline xenophobia
I hate Rudy for his dirty plays anmd antics as well but that was just not ok
Hope fully he adds mid rage shots
fyi rudy's hands are actually made of bricks
9:01 kawhi laugh
How good would butler LeBron and rudy be? 😅 just need some extra 3pt power and a good bench... dunno the numbers though.
in what context whatsoever does it make sense to call ben simmons lebron james 2.0? that makes sense in 0 ways
Yes he dont deserve it the DPOY, he also dont deserve the hate. Blame the media who voted for him.
No one likes Gobert, which is one reason he gets a lot of the over-rated talk his way. The Wolves are better offensively without him though
Draymond should be on the list as well
Listen stats are deceptive. Time after time, after timeRudy has under performed in the post season. You can't be that big, that long and the entire league is NOT worrying about coing down the lane. Big men, Shaq, Ewing, Mourning, Oakley even. When guys knew they were playing other players knew it was going to be a night. Luka exposed him on primetime. When you are DPOY teams shouldn't WANT to catch you in the switch so they can for SURE exploit YOUR defense
What you're saying doesn't make sense as better offense always beats defense.
Just look at Jordan, Shaq or Curry.
Jordan had to be stopped by the Jordan rules and the only way to get around it was team play.
Shaq bullied Mutumbo in 2001.
Even Wallace was strugling 1v1.
He shakes at the free throw line and sometimes misses two in a row
Shaq missed more. Was he hated for it
Trade for Rudy for bradely Beal from sun's would be great
He was crying about his mum having issues
I kinda like Gobert he is not afriad to make money gestures to refs that are involved in betting even he knows he will be fined