Did the CIA Brainwash Charles Manson?
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- In this week's American Alchemy, we interview Tom O'Neill, author of the new bestselling book Chaos: Charles Manson, The CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties. O'Neill and I went to Spahn Ranch, the famous old western movie set in Chatsworth California where the Mansons lived plotted a lot of their murders. We go through his book and its crazy thesis: that Charles Manson could have been an MK Ultra patient. What do you think?
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Mk ultra never stopped, nor did mockingbird.
this guy needs more subs fr
Went down this rabbit hole the other day and now I'm back.
I genuinely look forward to your episodes every single week Jesse, great work man.
Besides the CIA connection, check out the work that the late Adam Parfrey amassed on the subject. Everyone involved has a unique back story that is relevant to the case.
@Joint Electromagnetic Spectrum Operations (JEMSO) hello cia
When the powers in charge do not like something, especially in society, they get creative with unlimited budget.
Wow. Psychedelics were about to wake people up, and that’s not good for the government.
Wonder if the Author you highlighted here knows about The Door's Jim Morrison's connection to the same MKultra program. Oddly enough Morrison's dad was also likely who brought us into Vietnam. He was in command of the Gulf of Tonkin ships that did the False Flag Ops that brought us in. Morrison also died in Paris, 6 hours ahead of NYC. The same exact day his father's ship from Vietnam was decommissioned. The death records show two separate dates but when Morrison died in Paris, it was still the day the ship was decommissioned in the US...
Jim's dad also had some weird Greek or Italian message to his son engraved at his son's grave. The message mentions not liking the inner demon. Which can be read from a totally different standpoint if people believe Jim was killed by the mysterious Heroin given to him as he was writing that day in his journal about heroin being a government operation to control and take everything away from him...
I think his dad and the old timers of MKultra knew that had he not died, their secrets would've been too accessible.
Jim was an mk ultra victim.
This content is incredibly well done and so very intriguing. From start to finish, your channel is top-notch, and I appreciate very much what you share with us. I would definitely appreciate a more long-form conversation between you and all of the American Alchemists you have had on so far.
Read Tom O'Neill's book CHAOS.
Charles Manson was not at the house when the murders happen. His friends did something messed up that's what happened he got scapegoated
Glad to have caught on to your channel when I did, keep it up 👌
Really enjoy your podcasts/show, MK ultra is a incredibly deep subject obviously you've seen Tom O'Neill on Joe Rogan which is a incredibly fascinating interview where a great deal more is covered than what you did in this 10 minutes.
The problem is you need an hour to even start to begin to understand the context of how this all worked. Tom O'Neill hopefully we'll show up on American Alchemy for a good hour or two to discuss this with you.
One of them just got released from prison. Someone should try to get an interview with her to find out what, if anything she knows about this CIA stuff.
Loving your stuff, new binge subscriber.
Is there a longform of this interview? Tom O’Neill is the man. His journeys with Publishers alone is wild and dude went through hell to make the book a reality. Unrivalled journalistic dedication.
YES!!! Jesse I was hoping you'd lean into this topic! You guys are killing it. Each. And. Every. Time.
There is absolutely a state of being in which certain individuals can be made to do things they aren't aware of. Fascinating and real. You can literally create any reality imaginable in the minds of people and have them act out whatever intent imaginable.
It only works in the most highly suggestable of people, however. Ones lacking in critical thinking abilities. You know, the NPC types out there.
@@Gobble_de_Goop yes, of course but you can see educated individuals who poses critical thinking capability and fall prey to various ideas like end of world scenarios, world trade center terrorists, soldiers being told to kill the "enemy" any war any point in history. Religious fundamentalists or people who are in any religion throughout history for that matter every believer knows that his religious beliefs are real to them. It's not just the gullible or highly suggestive people who can be manipulated. There is something we're missing as a species that we haven't figured out yet. I think this is why we are so devided. To the point of killing the other guy because one side is right and othe other guy just won't listen so off with his head. Everyone is trapped in a reality set by a few individuals they assert this is how things are and we follow because most of us haven't learned how reality is created in the human mind objectively and subjectively.
Great segment! Explains so much so quickly!
The LSD / sensory deprivation experimentation on Manson happened BEFORE he was released from Terminal Island in March 1967. I have the statement from his cellmate.
Chaos is the best book I ever got into.. I think there’s a common hypothesis in this case, but we’re all just 5 or so answers away. Those Tex tapes need to be heard
Never been on your channel. I have to say, that is the slickest intro I've ever seen. Fantastic editing.
Great work @JesseMichels!!
When you said the West was Ruby’s psychiatrist 🤯🤯🤯🤯
I read his book a few years ago when it came out and it is mind blowing. His book comprises one of the greatest long term journalistic digs and inquiries that I’ve ever heard of. The dude is the world expert on the topic without a doubt. He followed and dug into the case for DECADES. But and read his book. It’s such a good read.
Have you seen the Netflix documentary, Wormwood, about Frank Olson who was given LSD in the MK Ultra program and seems to have been murdered by the CIA?
O'Neill's particular work was indeed interesting. I'm sure Jesse is also aware of Levenda's "The Sinister Forces" trilogy. (Tim) Tate also touches upon the subject in his (relatively) recent work on Sirhan in the RFK assassination. Well, there are just way too many to list out there connecting Bluebird, Artichoke, MKU, and so on to Berkowitz, Hinckley, and other high-profile cases. 🤔 So when are we gonna see the interview with O'Neill? 🤨
This has been my favorite channel since I found it last month
It came out of nowhere and the content is amazing
@@onlyonewhyphy or did it come from the spooks? why cant i find anything out about this guys background? jesse michels who are you? what is your story? how are you funded? who is pulling your strings? oh and you should do a video on the havana syndrome.. either way your content is entertaining
Dude I love your show, and your intro is killer. Keep it up 😊
We need a deeper dive on this topic! This was great but too short.
Jesse you make all the best videos of all my favorite topics, the lawyers of Manson and Jack ruby are suspicious!
Thank you for this!
By the way- we need a deeper dive on this man!
Just found my new favorite channel
Good Job - Keep it up
Please do an extensive video about Skinwalker Ranch :)
because you always make videos about topics that interests me maybe you could make a video about reptilians/greys, aliens that live on the planet? Like investigate if its "underground" or where they come from.
Let’s ask this question about the unibomber Timothy McVeigh.
Mae Brussel was on this in 1973. I first heard of her on Bonnie Faulkner's show "Guns and Butter" on KPFA, the Berkeley radio station (the first fully listener supported radio station in the nation, which still exists in a watered down form, a shadow of what it was in its prime) sometime around 2008 if I recall correctly. Mae had her own radio show "Dialogue: Conspiracy" in either LA or Santa Cruz in which she called out a lot of evil behavior by the powers that be.
Way ahead of (actually, right on) her time, she exposed the motivation behind the Mockingbird Manson narrative, the Helter Skelter bullshit. I like to think that she was the inspiration for Faulkner's legendary radio show. Look her up!
just watched the interview he did with a news caster (charles manson) and i got chills hearing jack ruby say "its not in my vocabulary". manson said that many times through-out the interview. think it was good morning america
Great video man, subscribing now. Have followed manson story for over 40 years. O'Neill's book was amazing. many parts of it still intrigue me, but possibly the biggest one is the CIA program of implanting false memories. A guy called professor Thomas Henry Horan has several fascinating videos on Manson. He states that there is no physical evidence that places any of manson's people at the tate house on the night of the murders. He does believe that they were probably there after the murders. There is strong evidence suggesting that bodies were moved after they were dead. There is an end to this rabbit hole. I only hope the absolute truth will come out. One key is the Watson tapes.
It's 3AM and here I am still watching, great channel.
Manson is a misunderstood guy, and a pretty good musician. I bought his album on Apple Music when it was still iTunes lol.
He was super smart.. when drugs hit, shit went sideways in a very dark way.
I'm very familiar with this and maybe your definition of a smoking gun is different than mine but I can count 1000 alarm bells.
04:31 Minor detail in an excellent documentary.
Manson wasn't 5'7, he was 5'2. Which is relevant considering he spent most of his time in prison, trying to get protection from bigger prisoners and setting prisoners against eachother.
Wrong
@@behindthen0thing525Elaborate.
@@MrK-wu7ci i looked at his arrest record it says 5ft 6
The powers that be are too powerful
hey Jesse, how do you approach the stargate research and its claims. (no ep this week? this is a reupload)
Love Toms book Chaos.
make this a longer episode
Holdup is this a reupload? I kept getting crazy déjà vu moments throughout this vid
Chaos was a great book. Highly recommend.
I wish more people looked at "conspiracies" objectively, and asked more questions.
The term "conspiracy theory" has been so misused and abused (because it is a CIA creation) that if there is info that the Powers that Be don't want you talking about.. you just say "oh why do folks believe these "Crazy Conspiracy theories"??? and QAnon (which is in and of itself a psy-op, along with Flat Earth ) there is also a lot of Controlled opposition stuff. the SKEPTIC movement, the "Woke" movement etc etc.. LEFT and RIGHT are BOTH captured and attemps at everything in between. It is a big MIND TRAP. "What is reality" You have to dig your way upwards and above teh fray to begin to see the Patterns (that not suprisingly we are told are "tricks of our minds" By Michael Shermer). It is a very effective tool and tactic and I fear will keep humanity under the Thumb of power for years and years into the future if not enough of us break the programming
@@outoftheforest7652 indeed.
Research the process church of final judgement
Most under-subbed channel on RUclips
MK is still going on... via hypnosis music frequency and controling or influencing emotion while changing the state of our environment. Stay prayed up
the CIA loves making documentaries about itself
Exactly
I think he was. One of the things that they were looking for was a drug they could give so their soldiers would have no remorse. Ain all of the interviews and parole hearings, none of them, although they may say they are, seem capable of showing remorse. Cm will flat out state that he's done nothing to be remorseful of.
I was born in 1954 and experienced the huge changes in the 1960s and 1970s. Vietnam war, hippie movement, desegregation. Such a big change in the order of society after World War II. We went from needing to trust the government to totally distrusting the government. Don't think boomers have ever gotten over that. Probably for very good reasons.
Good 30 seconds of Tim O'neil. Can you leave the link to Joe Rogan interview where there is information? Thanks
The song it's actually called look at your game girl. Also on the Ronald Reagan interview Ronald was able to bring in a CD and played it in front of manson the person who covered the song was named Steve Grogan. You can find the video here on RUclips. Look up Ronald Reagan Charles Manson interview part 3. If people can be misinformed about something as small as to making of the song imagine all the other things they say about him. We will never know the real truth
Didn't you already upload this? Did RUclips take it down?
I suppose a lot of people associate the song Something In The Air with the 60s, hippies, free love, etc and it was added to great effect to the description of the Summer of Love (1967, the year I was born.) But that song came out in 1969, a bit late for the summer of '67.
good vid--to me the smoking gun is that he was on FEDERAL parole and was left off each time
Great video, subbed!
I like the fact that you studied this case pretty well before you decided to download on this subject, I do agree with you about the book Helter Skelter, I do also see what you mean about the Politician's hating the hippie movement as it did have a lot of communist ways, living in communes, what yours is mine and mine is yours nonsense and I believe the whole thing has effected America worse then people think, I enjoyed your download on this subject, thanks.
There was also, due to the war and the hippy movement. A greater cohesion than ever, between black and white citizens. United in various ideas, and against various happenings. Rises in protests and counter culture. Vocal disagreement with the prior obeyed government. The vilification of crack vs hydrochloride salt cocaine was another act the Gov did to create 'us vs them' between races and classes. They did everything they could to break up the counterculture and divide the people. I think the communal aspects as you said, probably played a massive role too. Add it all together, add JFKs mentality and goals etc. You can really see how much was done to keep the status quo and the direction they had for everyone.
that Reeve Whitson looks like the character that plays Manson in once upon a time in hollywood.although in the movie it doesnt really point out that the guy who visits polanskis house in the movie is manson.
Much obliged, also loved the side-notes on Jack Ruby. I can't believe you don't have more views on your videos, you're awsome!
Anybody knows where long form version of this interview lives?
This somehow ties into synanon and the troubled teen industry
If this is true people need to wonder what they are doing to the homeless in California specifically San Francisco and LA with all those spots where they treat homeless people and gives them the tools to “do the drugs they want safely”
Isn’t there a connection with jolly west & the parol officer as well?
How does he always make videos about stuff I wanna watch?
Dare I say, you might just be an American alchemist? I’m a Canadian alchemist apparently. But it’s all the same turkey dinner just different fixin’s.
another certified CLASSic
New sub here, this is my kind of stuff 🕳️ 🐇
Great content!
The people at the Altamonte concert, headlined by the Rolling Stones on December 6, 1969, in the Frisco Bay area, claimed the LSD they got there was far different from any other kind they took. I wonder if it's the same kind Manson and his followers took.
I doubt Leslie Van Houtten will ever be able to spill any of the beans in this case. 1 her memory has been altered by drugs and 2 it would be dangerous now that she is free
Deep as hell
Excellent stuff. One thing, how is Operation Midnight Climax linked to the Haight-Ashbury? Seems like it's just thrown in as speculation, when everything else is solid in this theory.
Mkultra was many projects in frisco in 1960's
The clinic is thought to be where the people were procured for the lsd experiments.
I knew of this for years and it became kind of a joke. He's definitely not the only one. Helter skelter is an occult phrase also. Awesome vid 👍
The Manson thing goes way deeper than discrediting the hippie movement.
"Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream", ch-check it out!
Interesting. You didn't mention Sirhan Sirhan though. Isn't he a victim of MK-Ultra as well? I read Bugliosa's book. Bout 40 years ago. I had to burn the damn book. Charlie used to freak me out when I was young.
You met Charlie?
@@matiasruud5839 Never did. No, just watch as a kid, his trial and all the hype around it. He was just a little scrapper type who seemed to have direct connection with the Devil.
the craziest shit about this subject is that it really sounds like a conspiracy theory, but i tried really hard to find a counterpoint to O'Neils book or even podcast appearances and there is, at least to my knowledge, zero. This is CoD: Black Ops type of shit, omg
Is this a reupload?
Yea Wilson wanted to know about him alright haha so they can jack his music
What is the name of the song at 4:38?
"all i wanna do" - my favorite beach boys song!
@@gridreeves thanks so much. It's a beautiful song. I don't know how I missed it, I've always been loved the B boys.
Yes .
If the CIA was involved and it was all set up then why did they let Manson get caught instead of having a way to get them out of it ?
West was Tim McVeigh s Dr to
Left out Jollyon West 's involvement with Patty Hearst and the SLA/Sinque/Colston Westbrook cut-out.
Check out the Reagen interview with Manson, where he said the guy from UCLA (jolly west?) drugged him.
It's the frequency Guy here aGain. 😂😂😂 Mike Bara has a Great presentation on this and also JFK beinG done in by NASA. I don't aGree with him in the UFO field most of the time but this stuff I do aGree with. You can also find a video of Danny Trejo talkinG about when he was locked up with Manson. Said he was basically a bum or portrayed him as a homeless dude that would sit outside the Gas stations or somethinG like that but he could hypnotize them to Get hiGh in the cell while they were locked up but it only worked if you had done the druG B4 and experienced the effects if you didn't you didn't know what you were supposed to be feelinG and even more interestinG ppl are able to Get hiGh off of frequencies even without havinG experienced it 1st. There is work beinG done with binaural tones and can even find them on RUclips, so I can imaGine if someone was brainwashed and trained it could truly be a winter soldier type of situation but instead of a word maybe it's an ultrasonic triGGer instead of a word...
I dig the shirt
What interview with Tom O'Neill we see in the Video?
Next episode address if the IDW is a CIA op. K, thnx.
I have to say, I support anyone's endeavour to eradicate hippies 🙂👍🏻
8:46 - they're right
He specifically said he was a nobody and both the devil AND god. All are common occult spiritual viewpoints. Actually its so common that for me it feels like I have to explain to a 4-year-old.
If you want to know what really is going on in this world and space,
Listen to Tony Rodrigues and read his book "Ceres Colony Cavalier".
yes.
maybe
This video should have been SO much longer.
I Guess if you can control one you can control them all. 4D chess someone does something crazy and tgey can change the laws to suite their narrative.
Yes, but Sharon Tate was used by her mikitary intelligence father too
I don’t believe so. Not enough of a connection
It's not true Ruby had no violence in his past.
You left out Allen Rose