“I’ll show you just how lukewarm the hell you came from is.” Say what the fuck you want about Rosa, but THAT line and its delivery are BADASS. Absolutely one of the best moments in Umineko P E R I O T.
Knowing the one truth, it could be theorized that in the non-fantasy perspective of this fragment, the clambering goats chasing Rosa & Maria is a representation of the bomb being set off at midnight. Rosa saying that nowhere in the island is safe supports that. They likely didn't escape in time because of the gold ingot slowing Rosa down. When they lost it on the path to the beach, Rosa was still likely injured and still had the same ankle injury as shown here. She likely told Maria to run and swim away since they were close, but as shown here, she rejected that. Maria likely wouldn't have been able to survive swimming through the ocean anyway, so she stayed with the injured Rosa and both were consumed by the bomb.
And all of this is happenend only because of that shitty humans that are both Kinzo and Sayo. If Rosa and Maria had not died because of these 2 abortions, at this time, the first one would not only have had all the necessary money (that none of her equally shitty brothers and sister was even willing to give her rightful share to her) to pay all the debts from which she is afflicted and finance her fashion business but also to pay both for herself and her daughter a valid psychological or psychiatric help (Rosa to try to solve her numerous childhood traumas and to try to better manage the daily pressure she is subjected without vented it on her daughter, while Maria would be followed by an expert specialized in autistic syndrome in children) and together with Ange they would literally live a happy life. But no, that selfish piece of shit of Kinzo had to bring the bombs to the island (fantasizing about using them since Rosa still couldn't speak) and the son-daughter born of his rape/incest on Beatrice Ushiromiya, of course, not only well thought of planning the death of both but has largely exploited Maria's pain against her and Rosa to manipulate her. Really, I don't give a shit about how much the story tries to pity her to the point that you can't say anything against Sayo/Beatrice that you are immediately accused of not having understood anything about the story. A character like her and Kinzo, as well as Rudolf, Kyrie and even Eva, deserve to spend all their life imprisonment compared to Rosa.
@Alexis Togni Rosa is not good person either, she was accomplice of Sayo in this ep, but I definitely agree that Sayo and Kinzo are worst. Like I really don't understand why Sayo is so pitied, yes, she had bad childhood but she literally planned mass murder because of her selfish reasons. And unlike Eva or Rosa, Sayo is not even well written character.
@@alicealice8339 She is certainly a better person who deserves a second chance more than Sayo and Eva put together since, of all the characters in the family, she is the most justified and understandable.
@@alexistogni5499 I’m sorry but the fuck did Eva do? Sure she’s no saint but Eva, Hideyoshi, and George were probably the best people in the whole god damn family. I mean she literally took in the daughter of the people that murdered her husband and son, and tried her best to raise her like she was her own daughter. Sure Eva has flaws, she was greedy, she was controlling, she treated characters like Natsuhi and Shannon pretty shitty, and towards the end of her life she was bitter paranoid woman, but I do think Eva did try her best.
@@InquisitorThomas They're probably (justifiably) angry at Eva's treatment of Ange. Yes, Ange rejected her and that was cruel of Ange. But she was also a child who didn't understand why her parents and brother were gone and the only person who knew the truth (and gained significantly from their deaths) was staying silent about it. Eva could have powered through and loved her anyway, but honestly after the trauma she went through she'd have to be a saint. She also could have not chosen to completely and bitterly ruin Ange's life.
I remember this part in the original VN, and it was my favorite scene.... I think I really like it better with the voices. Damn, there's so much more emotion.
I can watch harry potter and not shed a tear as my favorite characters are slaughtered. I can have a straight face at the end of the walking dead game. But I watched this, and tears came pouring out of my eyes, but out happiness and kept whispering thank you,Rosa. I have alot of issues due to people I cared about leaving me for dead, but this made me so happy that Rosa stuck by Maria. I've been having an awful time lately and this really made me feel better, thank you for uploading this. :)
EP 3 Rosa best mom, EP 4 Rosa worst mom EP 4 Eva worst guardian EP 8 Eva best guardian Ep 3 I god damn love you Kirie and Rudolf EP 7 Go to hell Kirie and Rudolf EP 1 Ushiromiya damn what a disfuntional family EP8 most badass family ever they really know how to mpake 1 love and hate certain characters. Sorry on my phone so badp grammar and format
This scene is so amazing, high spirited, exciting yet emotional all at the same time... How many different ways it can be interpreted, some people may interpret as Rosa confessing to her being a bad mother to Maria and that even in a situation like this, she takes her gold and guns which protect her more than the actual daughter...Some may interpret this ending as Rosa trying to be a better mother to Rosa... Repenting her past mistakes and promising Maria that she will always stay with her, support her and play with her. In other words, give her much more time. Rosa protected Maria from those bad things with "epicness." Damn Epic 💥 Some, may say that this scene did not exist in the real world at all. But everyone knows that there is one single truth in this scene...Rosa truly loves Maria. They had it rough, so let's carry on. Amazing ending and it's with Worldend Dominator...!!
Doesn't quite make up for the past - you can't really - but were this not Umineko, this would be a good start towards rebuilding those two as a family.
I don't get why people think it's heartwarming that Rosa would, after careful consideration, not abandon her daughter for a bar of gold but try to run with both. Any parent should abandon gold for their kid in a heartbeat. That it takes Rosa so long (she doesn't even decide, she just drops it) is disgusting. That she lets Maria stay with her and die rather than trying her hardest to save her daughter is a selfish and cowardly act too, she basically murders maria in this scene. There's lots of other scenes looking into her psychology and past that give better support for the statement, "Rosa is not entirely a bad person," I love this as an epic scene but it isn't evidence Rosa is a good mum.
Worthless Winner The point is that she isn't the best mother. Here she acknowledges that she's been a shitty mother to Maria and asks for forgiveness. Maria, in turn lets go of the whole Good mama-Bad mama pretense and acknowledges that neither she or Rosa are the perfect mother-daughter pair, but they can still overcome their weaknesses, forgive each other and strengthen their bond.
Rosa isn't "not the best mother," she's abusive and neglectful. Forgiving your abuser and accepting their actions is a shitty lesson, though i understand it's the one the game is teaching. I guess it's Japanese morals at play.
Do you know why Rosa is the way she is? She's not evil, she's mentally unstable. She's not like Rudolph, or Eva, who are completely driven by greed and selfishness. She's been abused during her childhood, isolated as well, and she carried a very heavy burden with her. Maria knew she wasn't evil, too, that's why she had a "mama was possessed by the evil witch!" idea, she couldn't understand why her mother was like that but she knew that it wasn't how Rosa normally acted... People who were abused during childhood usually repeat that abuse when they are older, too, you know? I takes a great deal of self consciousness to know that they are abusing and to change their ways and ask for forgiveness, and that's what was shown in this scene. That the world isn't black and white, and that shit happens but things can get better...
Worthless Winner .... no "careful consideration" took place.... Humans will act on instinct and run away when they face a great fear (hence the wording "for an instant"). Rosa, being a guilt-ridden mother, confused instinct with thought. It's completely normal. The gold, in Rosa's mind, protects her "future" which in her own words, Maria is (or you can ignore that by being a selective reader). Letting go of the ingot wasn't an option from a logical standpoint. Grabbing her daughter's hands isn't going to make the debt disappear. The debt not disappearing means their relationship and behavior will continue to deteriorate.
If you ever want to convince someone to give Umineko a try, show them this video. In 8 and 1/2 minutes, it encapsulates everything excellent about it. * The best song (yes, I said it) in an unbelievable soundtrack? Check * Excitement that glues your eyes to the screen until it is over? Check * Badass moments with badass quotes? ("I'll show you just how lukewarm the hell you came from is") Double Check * A ton of emotion? Oh heck yes. Many tears were shed during Maria's reply that she only has one Mama. * Not a ton of spoilers? Surprisingly, check. There are some, like the goats and the gold ingot and implications that Rosa is not a good mom, but not massive ones. If you can't convince someone to give it a try with this scene, absolutely nothing will convince them.
only problem is that to get to the awesome stuff, you got a huge slog of boring stuff like seating arrangements, or even worse, shannon and george to sit through. then you have this amazing buildup to a fart. it says something that as these games were coming out, most of the forums that focused on story quality started turning on the series from about 4 on, and by the end there were just the shippers and uwus left.
I only watched the anime and i really like this scene so much, so epic. Didn't know that this scene is actually much longer. Wish we could see more Rosa-Maria epic heartwarming moments
Pengulord Y x2 Anyway my favourite is Turn because Rosa don’t die in the first twilight, and I get angry for it because I love Rosa. Her design, her voice, her courage, all
@@3fblacktruth847 it is very sad that Rosa is the only one who die 4 times i the first twilight and with Maria she is the only one who died in every Gamebord 1-6. I wish she had a Episode who we see more about her mind and what she really did like with Natsuhi in ep5.
What I don't get was, if Maria was looking forward to this ceremony, then why is it as if she's oblivious and terrified here? Has she not told by Beato that before going to the Golden land, she will be consumed by beasts? But then why was she indifferent when someone gets killed?
Maria is indifferent because she believes everyone will be revived as per the epitaph. I also doubt Maria knows the specifics of going to the golden land. To her its like ascending the stairway to heaven not being torn apart by goat demons.
@@darrenriccs I mean, she was told that at the end of the ritual they would be revived. They had reached the end of the ritual and instead of entering the Golden Land they are being pursued by demons.
Dang, this makes me tear up. I can feel her regret. 4:53 "Aaaah.. what am I doing..?? I chased wealth and everything, and lost everything.. and now even my child's in danger..." 5:15 "What my life has been..?" And she snapped out of it when she hears her child crying. 5:27 So sad. 5:42 So iconic. "Even though I'm such a bad Mama.. you still say you want to be with Mama?" 5:53 What Rosa says here is relatable to parents/guardians. She attended her child's every school events, but was kinda defeated by the society pressure, thinking too much of what other people think of her. She realized she didn't actually prioritize her child when she thought she was. This is what we should learn from Rosa's experience. 6:17 Maria is such a saint. In this world, there's only one Mama. There's no good or bad mama. Just Mama. ..She's right. To a child, the parent/guardian is their world. This story creator is so good, this story has so much moral values, and actually so relatable to real life. Many people can learn from it. The staff did good job as well, compiling this into a good story.
Ah, Umineko. Awesome scenes like this, mixed in with long, dull bits and unnecessary lolibait characters, leading up to garbage like "my dick fell off as a baby, so everyone must die." But the awesome scenes really are THAT awesome.
![[PS3 Patch][Voices] Umineko Eva-Beatrice's Web of Red Truth](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9lb0xcfFvtA/mqdefault.jpg)
![[PS3 Patch][Voices] Umineko Eva-Beatrice's Web of Red Truth](/img/tr.png)
“I’ll show you just how lukewarm the hell you came from is.”
Say what the fuck you want about Rosa, but THAT line and its delivery are BADASS. Absolutely one of the best moments in Umineko P E R I O T.
Thank you Boogiepop
Love this ending. So badass and emotional, not even mentioning the awesome OST. I get goosebumps every time.
Knowing the one truth, it could be theorized that in the non-fantasy perspective of this fragment, the clambering goats chasing Rosa & Maria is a representation of the bomb being set off at midnight. Rosa saying that nowhere in the island is safe supports that. They likely didn't escape in time because of the gold ingot slowing Rosa down. When they lost it on the path to the beach, Rosa was still likely injured and still had the same ankle injury as shown here. She likely told Maria to run and swim away since they were close, but as shown here, she rejected that. Maria likely wouldn't have been able to survive swimming through the ocean anyway, so she stayed with the injured Rosa and both were consumed by the bomb.
And all of this is happenend only because of that shitty humans that are both Kinzo and Sayo.
If Rosa and Maria had not died because of these 2 abortions, at this time, the first one would not only have had all the necessary money (that none of her equally shitty brothers and sister was even willing to give her rightful share to her) to pay all the debts from which she is afflicted and finance her fashion business but also to pay both for herself and her daughter a valid psychological or psychiatric help (Rosa to try to solve her numerous childhood traumas and to try to better manage the daily pressure she is subjected without vented it on her daughter, while Maria would be followed by an expert specialized in autistic syndrome in children) and together with Ange they would literally live a happy life.
But no, that selfish piece of shit of Kinzo had to bring the bombs to the island (fantasizing about using them since Rosa still couldn't speak) and the son-daughter born of his rape/incest on Beatrice Ushiromiya, of course, not only well thought of planning the death of both but has largely exploited Maria's pain against her and Rosa to manipulate her.
Really, I don't give a shit about how much the story tries to pity her to the point that you can't say anything against Sayo/Beatrice that you are immediately accused of not having understood anything about the story.
A character like her and Kinzo, as well as Rudolf, Kyrie and even Eva, deserve to spend all their life imprisonment compared to Rosa.
@Alexis Togni Rosa is not good person either, she was accomplice of Sayo in this ep, but I definitely agree that Sayo and Kinzo are worst. Like I really don't understand why Sayo is so pitied, yes, she had bad childhood but she literally planned mass murder because of her selfish reasons. And unlike Eva or Rosa, Sayo is not even well written character.
@@alicealice8339 She is certainly a better person who deserves a second chance more than Sayo and Eva put together since, of all the characters in the family, she is the most justified and understandable.
@@alexistogni5499 I’m sorry but the fuck did Eva do? Sure she’s no saint but Eva, Hideyoshi, and George were probably the best people in the whole god damn family. I mean she literally took in the daughter of the people that murdered her husband and son, and tried her best to raise her like she was her own daughter. Sure Eva has flaws, she was greedy, she was controlling, she treated characters like Natsuhi and Shannon pretty shitty, and towards the end of her life she was bitter paranoid woman, but I do think Eva did try her best.
@@InquisitorThomas They're probably (justifiably) angry at Eva's treatment of Ange. Yes, Ange rejected her and that was cruel of Ange. But she was also a child who didn't understand why her parents and brother were gone and the only person who knew the truth (and gained significantly from their deaths) was staying silent about it. Eva could have powered through and loved her anyway, but honestly after the trauma she went through she'd have to be a saint. She also could have not chosen to completely and bitterly ruin Ange's life.
I remember this part in the original VN, and it was my favorite scene.... I think I really like it better with the voices. Damn, there's so much more emotion.
That entire last minute is a very good example as to why this is one of the best visual novels ever made.
Umineko and Fata Morgana are peak
@@pepino35542 of the best
I can watch harry potter and not shed a tear as my favorite characters are slaughtered. I can have a straight face at the end of the walking dead game. But I watched this, and tears came pouring out of my eyes, but out happiness and kept whispering thank you,Rosa. I have alot of issues due to people I cared about leaving me for dead, but this made me so happy that Rosa stuck by Maria. I've been having an awful time lately and this really made me feel better, thank you for uploading this. :)
My god the emotions are strong. The music is amazing plus how can you hate Rosa's protective side? She's a badass.
No one gets to hit my child but me!
EP 3 Rosa best mom, EP 4 Rosa worst mom
EP 4 Eva worst guardian EP 8 Eva best guardian
Ep 3 I god damn love you Kirie and Rudolf EP 7 Go to hell Kirie and Rudolf
EP 1 Ushiromiya damn what a disfuntional family EP8 most badass family ever
they really know how to mpake 1 love and hate certain characters.
Sorry on my phone so badp grammar and format
EP1 Krauss Smart sly schemer EP 5 Krauss Patethic pitiful loser
@@ImaybeNormal natsuhi's badass the whole game
@@ImaybeNormal well you're quite right there, she's still pretty admirable tho
I still love Kyrie and Rudolf, for some reason they're my favourite characters along with Rosa
EP 1-7 kinzo you piece of shit, EP 8 HAPPY HALLOWEEN
How lukewarm your hell MAN THAT WAS EPIC AS HELL
This scene is so amazing, high spirited, exciting yet emotional all at the same time...
How many different ways it can be interpreted, some people may interpret as Rosa confessing to her being a bad mother to Maria and that even in a situation like this, she takes her gold and guns which protect her more than the actual daughter...Some may interpret this ending as Rosa trying to be a better mother to Rosa... Repenting her past mistakes and promising Maria that she will always stay with her, support her and play with her. In other words, give her much more time. Rosa protected Maria from those bad things with "epicness." Damn Epic 💥
Some, may say that this scene did not exist in the real world at all. But everyone knows that there is one single truth in this scene...Rosa truly loves Maria. They had it rough, so let's carry on. Amazing ending and it's with Worldend Dominator...!!
I have a save file starting at the exact moment of this video, the track and the tension are top notch in this episode's finale.
The world's worst good mom. Or the world's best bad mom.
Scene so good it has "real" in its RUclips ID.
Holy crap, no matter how many times, I always tear up ;-;
Doesn't quite make up for the past - you can't really - but were this not Umineko, this would be a good start towards rebuilding those two as a family.
I don't get why people think it's heartwarming that Rosa would, after careful consideration, not abandon her daughter for a bar of gold but try to run with both. Any parent should abandon gold for their kid in a heartbeat. That it takes Rosa so long (she doesn't even decide, she just drops it) is disgusting. That she lets Maria stay with her and die rather than trying her hardest to save her daughter is a selfish and cowardly act too, she basically murders maria in this scene.
There's lots of other scenes looking into her psychology and past that give better support for the statement, "Rosa is not entirely a bad person," I love this as an epic scene but it isn't evidence Rosa is a good mum.
Worthless Winner The point is that she isn't the best mother. Here she acknowledges that she's been a shitty mother to Maria and asks for forgiveness. Maria, in turn lets go of the whole Good mama-Bad mama pretense and acknowledges that neither she or Rosa are the perfect mother-daughter pair, but they can still overcome their weaknesses, forgive each other and strengthen their bond.
Rosa isn't "not the best mother," she's abusive and neglectful. Forgiving your abuser and accepting their actions is a shitty lesson, though i understand it's the one the game is teaching. I guess it's Japanese morals at play.
Do you know why Rosa is the way she is? She's not evil, she's mentally unstable. She's not like Rudolph, or Eva, who are completely driven by greed and selfishness. She's been abused during her childhood, isolated as well, and she carried a very heavy burden with her. Maria knew she wasn't evil, too, that's why she had a "mama was possessed by the evil witch!" idea, she couldn't understand why her mother was like that but she knew that it wasn't how Rosa normally acted... People who were abused during childhood usually repeat that abuse when they are older, too, you know? I takes a great deal of self consciousness to know that they are abusing and to change their ways and ask for forgiveness, and that's what was shown in this scene. That the world isn't black and white, and that shit happens but things can get better...
Worthless Winner
.... no "careful consideration" took place....
Humans will act on instinct and run away when they face a great fear (hence the wording "for an instant"). Rosa, being a guilt-ridden mother, confused instinct with thought. It's completely normal.
The gold, in Rosa's mind, protects her "future" which in her own words, Maria is (or you can ignore that by being a selective reader). Letting go of the ingot wasn't an option from a logical standpoint. Grabbing her daughter's hands isn't going to make the debt disappear. The debt not disappearing means their relationship and behavior will continue to deteriorate.
If you ever want to convince someone to give Umineko a try, show them this video. In 8 and 1/2 minutes, it encapsulates everything excellent about it.
* The best song (yes, I said it) in an unbelievable soundtrack?
Check
* Excitement that glues your eyes to the screen until it is over?
Check
* Badass moments with badass quotes? ("I'll show you just how lukewarm the hell you came from is")
Double Check
* A ton of emotion?
Oh heck yes. Many tears were shed during Maria's reply that she only has one Mama.
* Not a ton of spoilers?
Surprisingly, check. There are some, like the goats and the gold ingot and implications that Rosa is not a good mom, but not massive ones.
If you can't convince someone to give it a try with this scene, absolutely nothing will convince them.
only problem is that to get to the awesome stuff, you got a huge slog of boring stuff like seating arrangements, or even worse, shannon and george to sit through. then you have this amazing buildup to a fart.
it says something that as these games were coming out, most of the forums that focused on story quality started turning on the series from about 4 on, and by the end there were just the shippers and uwus left.
I only watched the anime and i really like this scene so much, so epic. Didn't know that this scene is actually much longer. Wish we could see more Rosa-Maria epic heartwarming moments
When the seagulls cry. There are no survirors *cackle cackle cackle* .......my goodness-~
The moment when you realize that Eva and Rosa are the best parents in Umineko.
+Kruukk Why Eva? I've only read up to the start of episode 4.... and all i've seen her being is total bitch.
+Azureus G You'll see Eva's awesomeness when you keep reading.
Donovan Dunne Eva is the hidden hero of the story.
Eva is best mum, unironically. I don't really think Rosa is good though, she's just not entirely bad :'(
Rosa is better than Eva.
I know very little about this visual novel
And this alone almost made me cry
This made me cry :'( i loved it
I so need Rosa to punch my face in and cuddle with me, holy shit bros
I feel like I'm the only person who's favourite episode is turn
Turn is my second favourite, rosa is so cool. But Ep 5 is just solid gold. Natsuhi neesan is the best
yuri hime noooo! Rosa is better. Natsuhi is cool, but Rosa is the best.
Pengulord Y x2
Anyway my favourite is Turn because Rosa don’t die in the first twilight, and I get angry for it because I love Rosa. Her design, her voice, her courage, all
@@3fblacktruth847 it is very sad that Rosa is the only one who die 4 times i the first twilight and with Maria she is the only one who died in every Gamebord 1-6.
I wish she had a Episode who we see more about her mind and what she really did like with Natsuhi in ep5.
As great as the manga is, it's version of this scene doesn't have a PATCH on this.
how I LOOOOVE this scene! :D
It would be nice if they recreated this scene in episode 7 but with Kyrie
epic ending
More like the GOAT vs the goats amirite
What I don't get was, if Maria was looking forward to this ceremony, then why is it as if she's oblivious and terrified here? Has she not told by Beato that before going to the Golden land, she will be consumed by beasts? But then why was she indifferent when someone gets killed?
Maria is indifferent because she believes everyone will be revived as per the epitaph. I also doubt Maria knows the specifics of going to the golden land. To her its like ascending the stairway to heaven not being torn apart by goat demons.
@@tehbige73 That doesn't make sense though, since she's also indifferent about the killings and most of them are brutal.
@@darrenriccs I mean, she was told that at the end of the ritual they would be revived. They had reached the end of the ritual and instead of entering the Golden Land they are being pursued by demons.
This moment made me bawl my eyes out. 😭😭😭😭
Someone should make a Rosa Mod for RE 2 Remake!
What about resident evil four replace Ashley with Maria and Leon with Rosa 🤣
@@laz981 well, now it can be possible with the remake
*I'LL SHOW YOU MY FUCKING GOLDEN DREAM!*
Dang, this makes me tear up. I can feel her regret.
4:53 "Aaaah.. what am I doing..?? I chased wealth and everything, and lost everything.. and now even my child's in danger..."
5:15 "What my life has been..?" And she snapped out of it when she hears her child crying.
5:27 So sad.
5:42 So iconic. "Even though I'm such a bad Mama.. you still say you want to be with Mama?"
5:53 What Rosa says here is relatable to parents/guardians. She attended her child's every school events, but was kinda defeated by the society pressure, thinking too much of what other people think of her. She realized she didn't actually prioritize her child when she thought she was. This is what we should learn from Rosa's experience.
6:17 Maria is such a saint. In this world, there's only one Mama. There's no good or bad mama. Just Mama. ..She's right. To a child, the parent/guardian is their world.
This story creator is so good, this story has so much moral values, and actually so relatable to real life. Many people can learn from it. The staff did good job as well, compiling this into a good story.
What if they head to Kuwadorian instead ? Like what Eva did in Episode 3 ?
they didnt have any time to escape to kuwadorian.
She didn't solve the riddle of the epitaph, so she was probably unaware that there was a secret underground passage leading to the Kuwadorian.
What a banger!
True :v
Best mama ever!
The 2nd part is so good ❤
Huh. Thought I wouldn't really be able to enjoy it as much with the voices added but this isn't too bad.
8:19
I Love It
i saw this visual novel on steam. want to buy it. is it easy to patch the voice?
Rosa Umineko
RIP channel
is there a way i can put the voices on the steam ver?
Yep!
With 07th mod :v
How do I get this with voices!
Umineko Project or 07Mod
What's the song that plays in this scene again?
Kareena Henry its called "Worldend Dominator" /watch?v=fAKkw71ff3U
Thanks!
Do you know when they are going to be released?
kino
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha in Italy the spoiled children like you call them bimbiminchia ^^
Ah, Umineko. Awesome scenes like this, mixed in with long, dull bits and unnecessary lolibait characters, leading up to garbage like "my dick fell off as a baby, so everyone must die." But the awesome scenes really are THAT awesome.
My dick fell off as a baby😂😂😂😂😂
That's a very insensitive way to describe the trauma that **** endured.