Barn Find 80s Tuner BMW survivor - will it run?

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  • Barn Find 80s Tuner BMW survivor - will it run? Welcome to a special barnfind episode (although in truth Jonny Smith didn't need many tools for this one) involving an exceptionally rare 1980s E34 BMW made by German tuning house Hartge.
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  • @richardgledhill
    @richardgledhill 10 месяцев назад +271

    Stunning. I vaguely remember Hartge from the 80s! Walter's reaction is great, reminds me of our dog when faced with a piece of juicy steak... For reference, it's pronounced "Heart-guh". It would be "hurt-guh" if the a had an umlaut (ä). Even if it's not a real barn find, it's still a great video. Thanks Jonny and Team TLBS! And thanks to Matt for sharing a very special and personal car with us all.

    • @InitialP_Photography
      @InitialP_Photography 10 месяцев назад +1

      I thought they were still about doing wheels, didn't know they were a tuning company.

    • @BS-my6qx
      @BS-my6qx 10 месяцев назад +13

      Jonny pronounced Hartge correct 😉
      Greetings from North Germany

    • @kougerat5388
      @kougerat5388 10 месяцев назад +1

      Danke 🙂Now I know for sure, being an ex Londoner though I'll probably stick with Hartage😉 @@BS-my6qx

    • @grievuspwn4g3
      @grievuspwn4g3 10 месяцев назад +2

      The umlaut in Hartge is a real Mandela effect.

    • @PixelVogue
      @PixelVogue 10 месяцев назад +1

      I remember taking my Hartge styled E36 to BMW Gaydon show and people where like whats Heartage....LOL

  • @MatthewUrso
    @MatthewUrso 10 месяцев назад +370

    Omg the heartache in his voice "you never said that" when he mentioned the short shift kit.... That man has LONGING

    • @walterchrobok3114
      @walterchrobok3114 10 месяцев назад +71

      Thanks for understanding 🙏🏼

    • @clc2328
      @clc2328 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@walterchrobok3114 Its exactly like me wanting Cammisa's Scirocco.....

    • @Rich.Aardvark
      @Rich.Aardvark 10 месяцев назад +4

      A little bit ov wee definitely came out.

    • @Rich.Aardvark
      @Rich.Aardvark 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@walterchrobok3114 never seen a man so happy 👍

    • @jonathancost4927
      @jonathancost4927 10 месяцев назад +1

      I noticed that too Matthew, hilarious!

  • @andrewsanjayprasad
    @andrewsanjayprasad 10 месяцев назад +306

    As a kid I sent off to Birds Hartge for a brochure. Their Sales rep Alan Sherborne lived less than a mile away so they had him drop them off. They must have been anticipating a real sale enquiry and nor a kid wanting to add to a bulging brochure collection, as he turned up in the Birds silver H5 demonstrator. He was so polite and didn’t show any disappointment, I remember my parents saying what the hell have you asked for! He gave my Dad and I a blast between 2 motorway junctions in it, it was so impressive.
    Great to see one again!

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  10 месяцев назад +49

      What a story! Love that these barnfinds spark off the car memories.

    • @1983dmd
      @1983dmd 10 месяцев назад +30

      @@TheLateBrakeShow This reminds me when my friend and I were 27 years old and visited the Lotus dealer in Boston USA just to admire the Esprit...After a 30 minute talk with the very nice sales director, he told us if we would like a road test, even if he knew we were absolutely not prospective buyers ! He pulled the car out of the showroom and my friend took the passenger seat, I was ready to wait for them returning for my turn as a passenger but instead he gave me the keys and told us take it for a 30 minute ride and bring it back in one piece !!!!!!!!!!! Unbelievable....Guess what: My friend bought a Lotus Esprit 10 years later from the salesman...This is a lesson for all sales persons out there !! This is how you build a customer base...

    • @HQBProductions
      @HQBProductions 10 месяцев назад +13

      Johnny..I was “there” when Hartge was a well known BMW tuner and the cars were indeed highly regarded…but they were also impossibly expensive to buy. In 1989 I was able to buy a new 525i SE but a Hartge was certainly on my wish list but no chance I could buy one. It is interesting to hear you all so wonderous at the car and revelling in details which seemed quite normal back then…just hardly anybody could buy one! I still have some of the brochures from that time and I hope this car gets a proper refresh and is saved. These cars are now being recognised for the special things they were and to many of us, light years more interesting than ten You Tubers Launching yet another M3 Touring! 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂

    • @robmcdonald992
      @robmcdonald992 10 месяцев назад +5

      It’s a nice car for sure, but the idea that it’s been off the road for 18 years doesn’t tie up at all with the MoT history.
      Also the fact the engine was rebuilt by another tuner kind of takes away the “special” part of the car.

    • @Low760
      @Low760 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@robmcdonald992 to me it's but that special. It's a 535i with another badge. E34s aren't that rare.

  • @youremostwelcome
    @youremostwelcome 10 месяцев назад +67

    My favourite part of this entire video was when not long after they fired it up and you could see Jonny refrain from revving it at the throttle body, lest the owner clout him. You could see the entire thought process pass across his face. Quality viewing.

    • @adimw
      @adimw 10 месяцев назад +6

      100% he wanted to give that throttle cable a tug

    • @paulw103
      @paulw103 10 месяцев назад +2

      Yup, Jonny’s little devil was clearly there 😈

  • @matthewyoung3942
    @matthewyoung3942 10 месяцев назад +141

    I'm 34 years old, a self confessed car addict, been around cars my whole life, worked in franchise automotive retail for almost 18 years, bought, built and sold my own cars and I mean what I'm about to say with every fibre of being, I've never, ever, coveted a car more than this one. The rarity, the story, that era of German performance, my love for old BMW's and although I'll never have the opportunity the way I know it'll drive, that is, for me at least, automotive mecca. You can keep you unattainable 250 GTO's, this will be every bit as joyous to drive and even better to drag out of the garage and live with. Again well done Jonny for unearthing the unearthly weird and niche, and this is totally my niche 👏 👏 👏 ❤

    • @walterchrobok3114
      @walterchrobok3114 10 месяцев назад +9

      Nice words 😊

    • @marcusott2973
      @marcusott2973 10 месяцев назад +3

      Mine would be an E34 M5 Touring. I understand. 👍

  • @besenzon1
    @besenzon1 10 месяцев назад +137

    He loves his number plates 😳😳😳😳 Bless DVLA for remembering and contacting. Great story

    • @robertescott1139
      @robertescott1139 10 месяцев назад +24

      Probably had the plate at original point of contact, took them 10 years to process it 😂

    • @ramblerandy2397
      @ramblerandy2397 10 месяцев назад +15

      The DVLA must hav some enthusiasts in their midsts. I still have my Dutch imported Honda VFR 800FiY and it had to be registered in the UK. And so I went into the DVLA one day, about 20+ years ago and asked for a number. Bear in mind that my VFR is a V4, 5th generation, which hails from a racing heritage. So it's a Superbike. And the guy behind the counter came up with V45SBK, I couldn't believe it. He just smiled. Nice video, btw.

    • @eliotmansfield
      @eliotmansfield 10 месяцев назад +8

      i think the plate is a bit gash tbh

    • @matt-squires
      @matt-squires 10 месяцев назад +2

      HAR76E would have been better

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@matt-squires
      Except it wasn't available.

  • @bcm0022009
    @bcm0022009 10 месяцев назад +94

    I totally get the family heirloom thing, the connection, and wanting to pass it down.... but pleeeaassee don't give such an irreplaceable and priceless example of a unicorn to a teenager/young man; it will not survive!
    Vividly remembering my own youth, and seeing the young people around me (though of course I love them to bits), a beautiful thing like this will definitely not stay that way if placed in their hands...
    Thanks so much Matt for sharing...
    Love the videos...
    Much love from Australia 🙏❤️😋

    • @MalcolmLambe
      @MalcolmLambe 10 месяцев назад +21

      Exactly. I cringed when he said that.

    • @Roverturbo
      @Roverturbo 10 месяцев назад +11

      EVERYONE crashes their first car don’t they…😅

    • @evldan
      @evldan 10 месяцев назад +5

      As a teenage boy I would have preferred 50k to spend on a car of my choice! While Dad gets the other 50K..and a BMW fan gets a dream car! (it could have been a win all-round situation)

    • @karlschroen392
      @karlschroen392 10 месяцев назад +1

      I've had my 392 charger that me and my dad built since I was 16. Been 6 years and many hard miles, but I have yet to crash it or any car at all.

    • @Boomboom-ox9hn
      @Boomboom-ox9hn 10 месяцев назад +6

      Believe me, he isn't passing that car down to his son. A friend of mine bought a Ford RS 2000 way back quoting the same sentence. That same car sits at the back of his workshop under a cover collecting dust still to this day while his son runs around in a brand-new ST Fiesta.. You wait… that BMW Hartge will be for sale at some point… I guarantee you…

  • @space.youtube
    @space.youtube 10 месяцев назад +27

    I'm by no means a BMW fan, but this could be one of my favourite Barn Finds ever.
    The owner's somewhat reserved demeanor is hilariously contrasted by Walter's enthusiastic geeking out.

  • @violinmiata
    @violinmiata 10 месяцев назад +12

    The man made a special garage for it. It’s being cared for and that makes me happy! What a gorgeous car

  • @NYHeeb
    @NYHeeb 3 месяца назад +2

    American here 44 who loves tuner brands from the ,80,90s, this is so amazing. Ive only seen small pics in like a mag before. That man is a hero great taste and mad respect

  • @The_Foulmouthed_Cypriot
    @The_Foulmouthed_Cypriot 10 месяцев назад +26

    As a 45 year old son of a VAG mechanic who grew up on a staple diet of Vee-Dubs and Audis, I'd just like to say how taken a back I am seeing this absolute beauty.
    Never been a BM fanboy but seeing a car that's rarer than rocking horse shit and in such fantastic condition fills me with awe of it and respect for its owner.

    • @pinut187
      @pinut187 8 месяцев назад

      Sad to read that someone that is a VAG fanboy can only respect another brands car because of its rarity.

  • @clayp.e30_v86
    @clayp.e30_v86 10 месяцев назад +31

    As a bmw nut, this video hit the spot. That is what can be truly defined as a unicorn.!!
    This era of bmw was when bmw were at their absolute best. The pinnacle really
    Hope he gets it out and uses it. Both he and the car deserve it

    • @foundnotlost
      @foundnotlost 10 месяцев назад +2

      I have the same illness, started in my teenage years with the 2002 and e30 then driving my first e30 325i, has me for life now.
      What BMW nut doesn't know about Hartge,

  • @nickmoulton446
    @nickmoulton446 10 месяцев назад +56

    E34 / E39 ‘s, the pinnacle of BMW excellence. I had many. This is an absolute delight

    • @adams7405
      @adams7405 10 месяцев назад +1

      Best cars on the road by far back then...now all similar

    • @andrewgarcia3136
      @andrewgarcia3136 10 месяцев назад +1

      Those cars were so good every other automaker copied them

    • @marcusott2973
      @marcusott2973 10 месяцев назад +1

      I had an E34 525iX as a company car drove all over Central and Eastern Europe in it in ever weather on crap roads in the mid 90's. Always a great drive.
      The company switched to Audi A6 quattros(C5), "Vorsprung durch Technik " my a**.
      The older E34 platform was twice the car.

  • @br4kecheckd
    @br4kecheckd 10 месяцев назад +20

    Gran Turismo 2 backpack. 16:28.
    Damn. Relic. My childhood. Right in the feels.

  • @barfmeister8509
    @barfmeister8509 10 месяцев назад +36

    A friend’s deceased husband owned a number of Hartge builds. A e24 6er, a e28 M5 with Hartge conversion and a very special 1 of 6 Hartge H36 based on a e30 M3. This had a 3.6 M5 motor and was used to great effect on track days and ring trips. When it was time to sell it on, she struggled to find much interest in it and was sold for much less than it’s worth. This was maybe 15years ago, things would probably be very different in todays market……
    This e34 H5s is a bit of me. I know a number of people in BMW circles who would love a piece of this very special machine.

    • @Aha_0000
      @Aha_0000 10 месяцев назад

      For Sale?

    • @zakelwe
      @zakelwe 10 месяцев назад +2

      Nice story. I remember seeing one of their 6 cyl versions of the M3 back in the day at a normal garage in Rochdale, just sitting there, black and white chequerboard seats I recall.
      I think later they tried to put the V10 in the 3 series as well ... cough.

  • @jimothy84
    @jimothy84 10 месяцев назад +21

    I absolutely love the reaction of Walter to each of the little Hartge pieces!

    • @walterchrobok3114
      @walterchrobok3114 10 месяцев назад +8

      Cheers dude, all those bits add so much to my heartache 😂😂😂😢

  • @Slingshotgixxer
    @Slingshotgixxer 10 месяцев назад +11

    Must say it was rather nice to see a car that is cared for and in great shape for once, it gets a bit depressing seeing once gorgeous cars rotted , on flat tires , piled with debris , a shadow of their former selves . Great episode!

  • @ToucanLLC
    @ToucanLLC 10 месяцев назад +4

    I used to work for Hartge in Beckingen from 1991 to sometime in 1994. I never saw a H5S, but have had the pleasure of driving the 3-series with this engine and even the 24 valve engine. That was pretty wild.
    The Hartge badges on this car are from a later date than the car itself. We changed the font of the letters while I was with Hartge, so after 1989. The Hartge badge in the steering wheel is the original font, so that's likely to be from the original build. So anything with that font is original with the age of the car, but anything with the font as on the center bage on the trunk is from after the early 90's. Also, the rims are of a later date. These three piece rims have the bolts 'sunken'. The originals ones had them raised and were smaller. The 5-series Hartge folder is also from the early 90's as I was there when we did them for all the models. My favorite was the flyer for the 850i. We did a 850CSi with 6.0 liter engine with about 430hp. Anyway, happy memories.

  • @AdamJRichardson
    @AdamJRichardson 10 месяцев назад +20

    The sun backlighting as you start out and say the word "brighter" a few seconds in is *chefs kiss*. And I lol'd at the heart icon when Walter was staring at the open engine! I'm not a BMW nerd at all, but it was fun watching poor Walter have almost repeated fainting spells! Thanks for relaxing your BF "rules" to bring us this

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  10 месяцев назад +4

      Thanks Adam. We did use a bit of artistic license with the sun in the intro.

  • @northnj5856
    @northnj5856 10 месяцев назад +16

    You're getting my first RUclips comment. I really enjoyed watching the video. I grew up in N. New Jersey in the US. I had a neighbor who had several visitors over the summers and they would always have the latest BMW M cars with AC Schnitzer and Hartge add-ons. I was somewhat familiar with Hartage (London pronunciation) but have never had the pleasure of seeing one in such detail. It was nice to correct my pronunciation and learned a bit more about Hartge. In the end, it turned out the neighbors were drug dealers and the fed busted them in 93 or 94, one morning on my way to school. Seeing those cars actually started my appreciation and now enjoyment for BMWs.

  • @jamiedufrayer5461
    @jamiedufrayer5461 10 месяцев назад +81

    What a car! Sounds amazing. Walter's reaction was class 🤣

    • @walterchrobok3114
      @walterchrobok3114 10 месяцев назад +12

      Deeply upsetting to watch this back

    • @jamiedufrayer5461
      @jamiedufrayer5461 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@walterchrobok3114 I hope not mate! Love the passion, we could all feel your pain that it's not for sale!

    • @walterchrobok3114
      @walterchrobok3114 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@jamiedufrayer5461 was just as painful waiting for the episode to come out 😂😂

    • @jamiedufrayer5461
      @jamiedufrayer5461 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@walterchrobok3114🤣 How long since it was filmed?

    • @roelfkromhout
      @roelfkromhout 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@walterchrobok3114yeah I get that. It’s plain to read on your face 😂❤

  • @benhooper1956
    @benhooper1956 10 месяцев назад +10

    I am lost for words Jonny, but I will try. I started school in Salisbury in 2006, and to think that this was prowling the streets then is amazing. I have never been a die-hard BMW fan, but I am a die-hard fan of tuning specials. People always misunderstand me and think I hate modified cars. I don't, and I absolutely adore tuning house specials like this as they are officially special in a really subtle way and that speaks to my sense of style completely. Thank you so much to shedding light on this, only wish I had been 23 in 2006 and not, well, 3 - so that I might have been in with even a tiny chance of nabbing it.
    But then I'd have probably been a different person had that been the case

  • @fastEdCanuck
    @fastEdCanuck 10 месяцев назад +41

    What a beautiful car. That’s the best styling of all years of the 5-Series IMO.

    • @BlueHopi144
      @BlueHopi144 10 месяцев назад

      indeed

    • @jambear7862
      @jambear7862 10 месяцев назад

      Agreed

    • @e28forever30
      @e28forever30 10 месяцев назад

      That would be the E28 for me.
      Not hating on the E34, great car.

    • @jambear7862
      @jambear7862 10 месяцев назад

      @@e28forever30 great car but a bit tall. The e34 is powerful looking yet smart

    • @e28forever30
      @e28forever30 10 месяцев назад

      @@jambear7862 power to weight ratio is superb on the E28, it was the lightest 5 series.
      Classic styling with elegance and sportiness.
      E34 is more of a luxury barge.

  • @jonathancost4927
    @jonathancost4927 10 месяцев назад +30

    As a teenager i always pronounced it Hartige as Walter does. Walter's reactions are classic and had me in stitches! I hope to God Matt does not give it to his son! That is way too precious a car to let some kid rag it around!

    • @e28forever30
      @e28forever30 10 месяцев назад +10

      I was thinking the exact same thing.
      Let the kid drive some cheap cars first, this is not “first car” material.

    • @matthewmason8982
      @matthewmason8982 10 месяцев назад +1

      I’m sure it won’t be treated as your usual Saxo/ Corsa first car!

  • @Calvi36
    @Calvi36 10 месяцев назад +11

    Now that is a thing of pure beauty. Matt is a lucky man to own such a beautiful and rare car.

    • @aaronmacphee
      @aaronmacphee 10 месяцев назад

      Too bad it’ll be wrapped around a pole before long. Sad.

  • @chrisbiewer-rallye-info
    @chrisbiewer-rallye-info 9 месяцев назад +2

    Very interesting for me because I am from the town where Hartge was formed.
    First, the name as pronounced at the beginning of the video is correct, with an A as in car.
    I can’t remember that there was a H5 with 3.7L, there was a bored up 2.7L based on the BMW e34 525i.
    Hartge was quite famous and successful at some point with a European touring car program with the BMW 635CSi. They also had a rally program with e21 320, 323i and e30 M3. These cars were mostly driven by Swedish rally star Ingvar Carlsson, which was significant in an unexpected twist later.
    Company founder was Herbert Hartge, at first supported by his two brothers. In the late 1980s his brothers Rolf & Andreas Hartge switched to Mercedes tuning briefly under the same name from the same workshop in Beckingen. But it turned out BMW fans and Mercedes fans were very opposed to each other and the Mercedes arm moved to Merzig and needed a new name as well. As by pure coincidence the Hartge BMW rally star Ingvar Carlsson was a Mercedes works driver in the WRC in 1980, and so the new name for the Mercedes arm was chosen to be Carlsson Mercedes, even though the Hartge brothers remained the bosses with little influence from Ingvar Carlsson himself.
    Hartge also did some tuning on Mini models, but they were not as famous as his big engined BMW, and yes the Hartge cars were as far as I know always built from bare BMW chassis from scratch.
    Carlsson in turn had some interesting adventures with other manufacturers. They made a tuning kit for a Toyota Camry, converted a Toyota Celica into a Cabriolet and made rather nice work with 2 generations of the Citroen C5 estate.
    Sadly because of age (I suspect) the oldest brother Herbert Hartge meanwhile closed the doors on his company. Carlsson Mercedes I understand was sold in good faith to a Chinese company indicating big plans, but as so often with the Chinese, the new owner uses this name for his own products and couldn’t care less of the origins of the company.
    It’s a shame really. I liked them both not only for they were from my home, in contrast to other tuners Hartge and Carlsson played with relatively mild tuning but using bigger engines (see i.e. the H5 V12) and the body kits were subtle and elegant. Where i.e. especially Brabus and AMG seem to be right into your face, the Hartge and Carlsson cars were very much sleeper cars. Being as fast as Schnitzer, Alpina, Brabus etc but not showing off too much and being quite reliable too. The Carlsson Citroen C5 i.e. despite having in the area of 240BHP could even be ordered through official Citroen dealers with the full factory warranty.

  • @besenzon1
    @besenzon1 10 месяцев назад +31

    Not a BMW guy but with the passion from Walter you can’t help but fall in love with it. ❤️ Shame Walter didn’t get to go for a spin in it 😔

    • @walterchrobok3114
      @walterchrobok3114 10 месяцев назад +5

      Cheers dude much appreciated. Can’t have them all 😢

    • @besenzon1
      @besenzon1 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@walterchrobok3114 hopefully you get a chance soon 🙏🤞

  • @kevinwallace9921
    @kevinwallace9921 10 месяцев назад +2

    I've been away for a week without my LBS fix and I return to this gem. As a lover of BMW's and especially the 5 series and an owner of one now I can't even begin to imagine how special this thing is in the flesh. As an early 70's child I grew up on a diet of Sierra Cosworths only as my dad was a salesman for an Ford RS dealership. The whale tail was our family car. The school run car has become so iconic and valuable its crazy so surely this thing is on another level. Got to be worth way more than suggested due to it's rarity and unmolested condition. Mega car, lovely owner, super episode. One of your best to date. Wowsers!!

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  9 месяцев назад

      Glad you enjoyed it. Happy to give you the necessary TLBS fix!

  • @_TwoBobBit
    @_TwoBobBit 10 месяцев назад +2

    What a lovely car, and in great condition too, thanks for sharing it with us Matt and Jonny.
    I will say one thing though: PLEASE don't give this to your boy as his first car! I wholeheartedly agree with passing it down to your kids, as i shall be doing with my Elise, but i remember my first car - it was only a 1.1 Shitroen Saxo, i loved it (it didn't deserve to be loved!) but that poor thing took some abuse. It got scraped on things, the wheels got scuffed, nearly crashed, driven in winter salt, I practiced handbrake turns and skids in it, all the usual teenage stuff! First cars are for bonking into stuff without having to worry too much - for learning how to drive well without having too many consequences when things do go wrong.
    By all means hand it down, but in my opinion it needs to be kept as a second car, for high days and holidays, and cared for properly - not thrashed by the inexperienced hand of a young lad.
    Just my opinion, it's your car. Enjoy! :)

  • @razor000999000
    @razor000999000 10 месяцев назад +9

    Just wanted to say thank you.
    Lost my mam earlier this week and been finding this last week really hard.
    I couldn't sleep so click on this video as i love classic bmw and for them 20 mins or so that I watched, and listened to the back story of the car and watched your great reactions, for them few minutes i taken away from my pain and just enjoyed this stunning car.
    Thank you.

    • @1983dmd
      @1983dmd 10 месяцев назад

      That's nice...Hang on, things will be better...

    • @1968spikey
      @1968spikey 10 месяцев назад

      Clichéd remark, but you'll never get over it but having lost both my parents it DOES get a little easier.
      Glad this distraction did just what was needed. 😊

  • @thomaswelcomer8443
    @thomaswelcomer8443 10 месяцев назад +3

    Im thinking Jonny enjoys these "barn finds" episodes more than others.... many of us just enjoy ANY post that he brings us along! Thanx for all the hard work!

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you. Yeah, they are always interesting to work on. If the car fires up without tools it's always a bonus!

  • @pauldixon3677
    @pauldixon3677 10 месяцев назад +5

    Another new school day there Jonny. I like you had heard of Alpina but never Hartge! Wow what a beautiful example and with all the paperwork and the big purring lump starting on the button. Thank you for sharing this bit of motoring history.

  • @craigstorey4081
    @craigstorey4081 10 месяцев назад +5

    I remember being fascinated as a kid by a Hartge 3 series compact where they managed to squeeze a 750i tuned V12. Absolutely class!

  • @fretlessfender
    @fretlessfender 10 месяцев назад +4

    Sometimes I wonder... how high can this show fly? Jonny you are still in the up! This was great!

  • @Invisibleman7
    @Invisibleman7 10 месяцев назад +14

    Really enjoyed that.Walter stood there in stunned silence. Beautiful rare BMW indeed

    • @walterchrobok3114
      @walterchrobok3114 10 месяцев назад +3

      I would have driven it home no tax no mot no problem 😂😂 appreciate your comment 🙏🏼

    • @Invisibleman7
      @Invisibleman7 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@walterchrobok3114 Same here Walter

  • @simonzero3815
    @simonzero3815 10 месяцев назад +3

    That is simply the best video you have ever put together. So lovely to watch three enthusiasts rave over such a car. Thank you so much.

  • @peterbowden2646
    @peterbowden2646 10 месяцев назад +1

    Not a bmw fan but you cant help but be impressed with the specification and history and all the brochures and magazine articles for this rare bird built by birds? Excellent find johnny!

  • @AnagramAutoclassics
    @AnagramAutoclassics 10 месяцев назад +16

    The BFF is out, so it's going to be another good episode! And best of all, no rubbish to clear out first, just three big bikes! A 5-series in your back passage 😂

  • @WEZ4136
    @WEZ4136 10 месяцев назад +2

    That was an awesome video Johnny, a friends dad had a Hartge H5S back in the early 90s, it was actually one of the first BMW’s I’d actually seen, he purchased off a work colleague, he had it for a year or two and sold it on as the same guy that sold him it was selling his AC variant and he had always fancied it a bit more. I love videos like this as it does justice to a beautifully engineered beast that not many people knew about, I read about this very car in total bmw magazine, a back issue I may add, in around 2011 ish after I had an accident in my 328i Msport and replaced it with an E39 535i. Sadly lost all my mags in a house fire as I kept some of the more stand out issues same with performance bmw too.
    Love the passion that he has for the car and the story behind it, I really hope we get to see this beauty back on the roads again, thanks to all involved as I’d actually forgotten about that part of life and the beautiful cars that I’d seen. 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @1chish
    @1chish 10 месяцев назад +8

    Showing my age here but I owned a BMW M535i Hartge E28 in the early '90s. Gorgeous deep Burgundy colour, full body kit but without the side stripes. Big square exhaust outlet in the middle of the rear bumper. THE most amazing BMW Big 6 Sound.

    • @e28forever30
      @e28forever30 10 месяцев назад +1

      When Johnny announced “an eighties 5 series”, I was hoping for an E28..
      Not disappointed though!

    • @1chish
      @1chish 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@e28forever30 Me too as the E34 came out in 1988 so more 'Nineties' than 'Eighties'.
      Pretty special car though!

    • @olliewebbuk
      @olliewebbuk 10 месяцев назад

      @@1chish If it came our in 1988 all of it's development would have been done in the mid-80s. So not sure what your point is.

    • @1chish
      @1chish 10 месяцев назад

      @@olliewebbuk Well I can't help your inability to understand my very simple point. Try harder ... 🤣

  • @chr15DFC
    @chr15DFC 10 месяцев назад +2

    Love watching these barn finds because the passion and love for these cars the owners have makes me feel better for being such a nerd myself. Walters reaction is just so pure. Can tell he has a love for these cars. Bet he could fill a few videos with his knowledge… great episode as ever. Love it!

  • @andrewjones4285
    @andrewjones4285 10 месяцев назад +4

    Brilliant episode! What an absolute stunner of a BMW. Technical barn find or not a rare fine is a rare find!

  • @johngregory5280
    @johngregory5280 10 месяцев назад +1

    You've made a lot of great videos Jonny but this is right up there. Thoroughly enjoyed watching it. Walter's reaction is priceless and I really feel for him. The pure passion is what makes these old cars such emotional and evocative treasures.

  • @paulsheward
    @paulsheward 10 месяцев назад +8

    This is absolutely fantastic. What a car!!! Great to hear about the back story. Makes it even more special. 👊

  • @iainmartin1015
    @iainmartin1015 10 месяцев назад +1

    What a fantastic piece of automotive history. My heart sank when I saw the alarm under the bonnet - possibly Scorpion - and thought "that could scupper things. It sounds gorgeous too.

  • @TheManmoths
    @TheManmoths 10 месяцев назад +5

    What a top bloke 🤝🏻
    Love a Hartge - I’ve fond memories of them stuffing V8s into 1 Series and Z4s, everything they touch is just cool.

    • @T4Liam
      @T4Liam 10 месяцев назад

      They did a crazy conversion on the 3 series compact, and stuck the V12 into the 5 series as well.

  • @stephenkayll5241
    @stephenkayll5241 10 месяцев назад +2

    As a previous owner of big straight six BMW's they all sound the same on starting, a magic sound. A very special car.

  • @01FozzyS
    @01FozzyS 10 месяцев назад +4

    Amazing find. I remember reading about Hartge on maybe Road & Track back in the day.

  • @andyreynolds6194
    @andyreynolds6194 10 месяцев назад +1

    What a class video, you can tell Matt truly cherishes his exceptionally rare car and that it really MEANS something to him and his family. So nice to see a down to earth bloke owning such a rare car instead of a hedge fund manager or retired company CEO.
    I hope he takes it out for a spin with his family every now and again though - keep those seals lubricated and in order.

  • @cornishrider
    @cornishrider 10 месяцев назад +4

    The engine sound says it all! That's how I remember deprecation, notice how the similar standard 535i's in the surrounding ads were around the same price!

  • @peterunderdown4374
    @peterunderdown4374 10 месяцев назад +2

    Fantastic, true example of rare vehicles, plus true car nuts in the best sense.thank you.

  • @guyredshaw1422
    @guyredshaw1422 10 месяцев назад +5

    Oh wow! Amaaaaaaaazing car! Big thanx and respect to Matt for sharing it and his special story. Also thanx to Jonny and the team for getting it on film. Very special!👏👏👏👏⭐️💥

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  10 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you. Seriously niche and seriously rare is what we all seem to get off on! Appreciate the comment

  • @80skidgrownup00
    @80skidgrownup00 10 месяцев назад +9

    I couldn't quite see Walters expression when Matt said he was going to give the car to his son as a first car, but I'm imagining he looked gobsmacked

  • @brymills
    @brymills 10 месяцев назад +5

    Stop apologising for it not being a barn find! This was awesome!

  • @markforrester3385
    @markforrester3385 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was amazed when you started off this episode by saying not many people have heard of BMW tuner HARTGE. As I remembered them well!
    I remember helping out on a stand at a car show at Earls Court in the 90’s. Not the regular car show though. I think it was called the Performance Tuner Show, and HARTGE had a stand there. I much preferred them to the more common Alpinas and AC Schnitzers! 😂
    I came away with a brochure from them, which I think I may still have some where! I can’t remember for sure, but I think they had a full converted white 5 series on their stand too. I wonder if it was this car? I also remember HARTGE being featured in Fast Lane magazine. Which was the predecessor to Performance Car and today’s EVO magazine. Thank you for sharing this special car with us.

  • @t1mmy13
    @t1mmy13 10 месяцев назад +5

    I've been interested in some rare BMW's here and there, nothing serious, but I've never ever seen anything like this. Absolutely amazing

  • @superfast30
    @superfast30 10 месяцев назад +1

    The strut brace is stunning! The look on Walters face when he laid eyes on the strut brace and cam cover was priceless LOL. You can tell his was thinking "I can't believe it"! I had the same look when I saw the cam cover on a BMW M1 Procar. It's the only time I've ever seen BMW M division do the word Motorsport in calligraphy!

  • @gkstanfield
    @gkstanfield 10 месяцев назад +5

    HARTGE regularly placed advertisements in the BMW CCA ROUNDEL club magazine in the ‘80’s…generally showcasing the E28 5-Series tuned cars- I thought they were absolutely stunning, but I don’t know how many made it to the US or how many exist today.
    Great episode…much rarer than an ALPINA..!

    • @1983dmd
      @1983dmd 10 месяцев назад

      Agree, but Alpina has a greater racing history in their beginnings,no?

  • @richardkay1587
    @richardkay1587 10 месяцев назад

    Bloody brilliant episode! That era of BMW is my favourite era. I love the E30 and E34. I remember seeing Harge referenced in magazines I read at the time, (Total BMW, BMW Car to name a couple), so to see this car is an absolute treat! Walter's reactions are brilliant, and I would imagine mine being similar if I were ever to see this car in the flesh. A fantastic example that needs to be enjoyed, and not hidden away, although I do understand why it's been tucked away for so long. Thanks to Jonny and the team, and the owner for allowing us to enjoy that! EPIC!!!

  • @DaveBoyd-c2s
    @DaveBoyd-c2s 10 месяцев назад +18

    Lovely car but eldest son's first car!! Good luck trying to get that insured

    • @BRMCaptChaos
      @BRMCaptChaos 10 месяцев назад

      I love my kids too, but if they bent that one, they'd never forgive themselves.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 9 месяцев назад

      Classic insurance with limited mileage policy. Cheaper than you think.
      I still wouldn't dare let them though 😂

    • @axe2grind244
      @axe2grind244 9 месяцев назад

      Lol in the US thats $50 a month to insure, and probably $100 a month for a teen.

  • @tunwellengineering733
    @tunwellengineering733 10 месяцев назад +3

    Another great video, my parents had a mint white’ 89 525, basically needed the aftermarket alarm removed, they bought a 307 to replace it and my mate bought it for £200, different times.

    • @slacko1971
      @slacko1971 10 месяцев назад

      That "aftermarket" alarm was probably dealer fitted I worked at a dealer when these were released and they didn't come with alarms as standard. If memory serves we used to fit Scorpion alarms. The only factory security they had was a code you could program into the OBC They also had a design flaw in the door locks along with the E32's which meant they were incredibly easy to break into even when deadlocked as many of the local tea leafs discovered. I have fitted countless head units into these. Great cars.

  • @martinmagee6611
    @martinmagee6611 10 месяцев назад +2

    Fantastic episode - love the rarity, but even more, the passion of the owner.

  • @01tasker01
    @01tasker01 10 месяцев назад +4

    That was like a 5 year old meeting santa for the first time
    You absolutely made him speechless, loved it
    I bet he asked if he could buy it after the filming stopped about 20 times

  • @garethshaw5165
    @garethshaw5165 10 месяцев назад

    That is absolutely beautiful.
    I’d never heard or Hartge before.
    The first BMW I ever sat in was a E34 525i when I was 7, my dad always wanted one and we went to view one, for whatever reason he didn’t buy it and I remember nearly crying. I felt like a king in the back of that car on the test drive. My dad passed away when I was 9 and I put a matchbox bmw 5 series in his coffin. So the E34 will always be special to me. I’ve owned two E60 5 series and lived out his dream and mine.
    I hope the chap never sells it because it holds so much special memories with him and his dad it’s a family air loom in my opinion. Great episode

  • @christaylor4946
    @christaylor4946 10 месяцев назад +12

    The E34 has aged so so well. Had a dark green 525i model car as a kid, loved that thing

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  10 месяцев назад +2

      My friend bought a 525i manual in green as a cheap winter hack. It was £500 in 2004...

  • @seanadams8504
    @seanadams8504 10 месяцев назад +2

    This is stunning car I do remember these very well. Always been a fan of the older BMW's . Thanks for sharing with us. Great content.

  • @alextripp1230
    @alextripp1230 10 месяцев назад +3

    Hi Jonny, what a find, wow so rare and looking just fantastic. Great guy, who knows what he has and has cherished it. Started on the button, sounded bang on..!! Great video guys... Alex.

  • @tobyd352
    @tobyd352 10 месяцев назад +2

    There was a Hartge dealer near Holmfirth, West Yorkshire in the early 90's.

  • @iansmith7871
    @iansmith7871 10 месяцев назад +2

    Loved this. Get Walter on more often, he's gold.

  • @badwolf4058
    @badwolf4058 10 месяцев назад +1

    You've been spoiling us with BMWs lately; this is just gorgeous - the provenance, supporting paperwork and its condition. G G Steele are not far from me, too, which just adds to the video.

  • @humblepie9373
    @humblepie9373 10 месяцев назад +5

    Fantastic find .. what a beauty!
    Could we have a revisit on the day he gives his 17yr kid a 100k ..1 of only 5 bmw ?

  • @SJS764
    @SJS764 10 месяцев назад +1

    Jonny you have excelled yourself with this story, I’m not into BMWs but this episode is about a very rare care with and unbelievable back story with all of the fine details.
    I knew this car was special when Walter was lapsing in and out coherent thought, it’s must feel horrible to see, touch and smell an example of Unobtainable.
    This style of story with Matt, a grass roots guy is the direction I love to see on The Late Brake Show, this is a consummate performance. 10/10 Jonny
    Stuart in Australia

  • @berwhaletheavenger
    @berwhaletheavenger 10 месяцев назад +7

    I had a Racing Dynamics E34 535i with all the bits on. For me the E34 was the last of the proper ones.

  • @Smoovindecat
    @Smoovindecat 10 месяцев назад +2

    It’s such a pleasure to watch such genuine reactions from Walter it’s brilliant. I get it.

  • @Isthatyoudermot
    @Isthatyoudermot 10 месяцев назад +4

    Walter needs to be involved in this cars recomissioning. We need a video series on it too.

  • @dimitristamatakis2431
    @dimitristamatakis2431 10 месяцев назад +1

    I'm not going to lie, I got emotional seeing this and Matt's story. Thx for showing us this beauty. Really looking forward to seeing it drive.

  • @albertperks3476
    @albertperks3476 10 месяцев назад +4

    That era of BMW 6cyl. Engine were just sublime - they sounded and felt like they had been hewn from granite.

    • @e28forever30
      @e28forever30 10 месяцев назад

      The M30, the “big six”, made from 1968 to 1990 ( correct me if I’m wrong)
      One hell of an engine.

    • @slacko1971
      @slacko1971 10 месяцев назад

      I always love the little ring the starter makes when they fire, nothing else sounds like it.

  • @MrCRAIGJSTEVENS
    @MrCRAIGJSTEVENS 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great to see walter again. I bought a 2005 bmw X5 from him years ago and his stories were great, as was his garage!

  • @markmanderson
    @markmanderson 10 месяцев назад +5

    it sounds utterly amazing :D that generation of 5 series were always so pretty.

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  10 месяцев назад +2

      Agree. Handsome and simple 3 box saloon

  • @nicholaswatson3896
    @nicholaswatson3896 10 месяцев назад +1

    Would love to see more 'not strictly' barn finds like this Jonny and Walters reaction was priceless.

  • @ChrisGallighan
    @ChrisGallighan 10 месяцев назад +3

    Jst walters face never seen someone in so awe smashed it yet again Jonny ❤❤❤❤

  • @retroandy7166
    @retroandy7166 10 месяцев назад +1

    Yes remember those back in the day, what fabulous engine note, can’t wait for its test drive. Would be fabulous for you to lend it out to show it at the classic car show at the NEC…. We would all love to see it…

  • @welshy8216
    @welshy8216 10 месяцев назад +4

    Lovely car & motorbikes. But the worst Raleigh Burner ever made, Hanging on the wall. The re-pop Curry one 😂😂

  • @garyseaton4619
    @garyseaton4619 10 месяцев назад

    I've never heard of HARTGE but will certainly look for more information. Not a barn find, as you said, but certainly a priceless jewel in the automotive world. Matt, thank you for sharing your truly rare and outstanding vehicle with us. Your oldest son will be a lucky chap when he gets this from you... All the best to you and yours...

  • @muthaflaco75
    @muthaflaco75 10 месяцев назад +6

    Nice iconic car. The Buell is cool as well

  • @zachogdahl210
    @zachogdahl210 10 месяцев назад +2

    Im a big fan of the various bmw tuning shops from the 80s. I have a set of hartge and ac schnitzer e30 wheels stashed away and ive managed to collect an original ac schnitzer kit for an e30. I love all the hartge parts for the e30s though and really want to build a replica from my parts stash.

  • @beachamgroup2482
    @beachamgroup2482 10 месяцев назад +3

    You've done it again Jonny.

  • @GeesDrive
    @GeesDrive 10 месяцев назад +1

    Such a special machine. I worked on Alpina PDIs back in the early 2ks and some minor upgrades were done at the dealerships. Amazing episode Jonny.

  • @AndrewKay-fg1bj
    @AndrewKay-fg1bj 10 месяцев назад +7

    “This’ll be my oldest son’s first car” - Please, I understand the sentiment, but don’t. Promise it for later in life when he can truly appreciate it

  • @seanausten758
    @seanausten758 10 месяцев назад +1

    What a beautiful vehicle. This was a combination of ‘Barn Find’ and ‘Car Cave’. I really hope he gets this car back on the road and starts to enjoy using it, in honour of his dad.

  • @rajkohli81
    @rajkohli81 10 месяцев назад +3

    Johnny seems a little bit scared of Matt throughout this episode, right from the first scene where it looks like he's got a concealed weapon in his pocket :)

  • @In-the-shed
    @In-the-shed 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow what a find & what a fantastic car. I once had the pleasure of owning an E34 M5 3.8 with a Hartge suspension conversion which has been carried out by Birds. Loved that car ❤

  • @sidbobby3233
    @sidbobby3233 10 месяцев назад +3

    Be nice too see Walters collection...

  • @FvdE-7
    @FvdE-7 10 месяцев назад +1

    Birds used to have the Franchise BMW dealership in Gerrards Cross, so around the time E30/E28 where about there was a load of the new Hartge cars parked up outside their place in Station Road. I used to cycle into town to look at them.

  • @271chrissy
    @271chrissy 10 месяцев назад +5

    Walters face.....love deep love.

    • @walterchrobok3114
      @walterchrobok3114 10 месяцев назад +2

      100% 😊

    • @271chrissy
      @271chrissy 10 месяцев назад

      @@walterchrobok3114 What a machine that BMW is.

  • @rekker2688
    @rekker2688 10 месяцев назад +1

    What a stunning machine! Thank you for sharing it with us. How I miss my 95 e34. Absolute dream to drive but I bet this one would be a heck of a lot more fun!!

  • @Madonsteamrailways
    @Madonsteamrailways 10 месяцев назад +7

    Hartger is one of those BMW tuners that went into the dust in the 1995!! Very important car to have found!!

  • @markrobinson9969
    @markrobinson9969 10 месяцев назад +2

    Stunning car and great back story. I remember near where I worked in the mid 90’s a guy had an E32 Hartge 7 series (735i) in dark grey metallic, wheels almost identical to this one! I knew they were rare cars but didn’t realise how rare. My mate also called it the Hartage 😂

  • @kevindawson9270
    @kevindawson9270 10 месяцев назад +4

    Worth it as much for Walter's love/envy as for the car itself! Poor lad...

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  10 месяцев назад +2

      Simultaneous visual arousal and pain...

    • @kevindawson9270
      @kevindawson9270 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@TheLateBrakeShow His reaction to the words "short shift kit"? Lovely!

  • @dazsboxofwater
    @dazsboxofwater 10 месяцев назад +1

    What a car , what a guy , lovely find , thanks for letting it be viewed 🙏🏼