You're really talented! What do you think about LaHabra Allegro 2 Cement Coating for changing stucco color, say going from a lighter to a darker color? They say that "it is neither Fog Coat nor Paint, Allegro is something between the two and is the product designed to change or in some cases provide surface color." Have you ever tried this product and is it hype? What do you think about painting stucco with an acrylic paint? How often can you Fog Coat? In one video you mentioned that Fog Coat can create a lot of chalkiness if you over-apply, so it seems Fog Coat might make it difficult to paint the stucco in the future?
Thank you. Much appreciated it. I think that on paper it might be a great product. However, I have not personally used it recently. I used it once a looong time ago helping another guy out and it didn’t work for him so we stopped using that same day. Having said that, I don’t think he mixed the product correctly to begin with. It is true that it is not neither paint nor fog since it has cement in it. I’ve been wanted to try it again for a while because it offers better (darker) colors that traditional stucco can not offer. I just need a family member to convince so I can use their house as a guinea pig to see how it works 😂. Really looking forward it to it though. As far as painting goes, I don’t know much about it. There’s more guys out there that are more qualified to answer that question than I am. Sorry. Fogging can get chalky off you go over it many many times. It’s fine if you spray it the way I do. I say that because I’ve seen videos of walls getting sprayed a little too much that they can in fact become chalky. I’ve seems homes that have been fogged from lighter to darker and in time it seems like they get washed up little by little. Maybe for the untrained eye it might not seem like a big deal, but guys that do this for a living can see the color has been discolored. I think fogging the house once maybe twice having a similar color should be fine as long as you don’t pressure wash the house.
@@blackhemi8 Good info! I talked to Parex/LaHabra tech support about the Allegro 2 product and they said that it really needs to be applied with an airless sprayer for best results (rolling / pump sprayer won't look very good). Also it shouldn't chalk or wash-off (like a Fog Coat might do) since it is a polymer-modified cement and will truly bond to the existing stucco and will definitely allow for color change (dark to light, light to dark). If doing a dark color then they recommend also applying Parex 610 Matte Sealer to protect the dark color from UV degradation. Tech support also said that you could paint over the Allegro 2 with an acrylic or elastomeric paint say if things didn't turn out well. The product has been out for about 10 years. Wished there were more reports about it good or bad online.
@@jmmec Looks like we learn something something everyday 👍🏼. I tried calling Parex from here in Riverside and I couldn’t get ahold of them. This was when the pandemic had just started. I was doing a project and wanted to offer Alegro II as an alternative, but I couldn’t get any info at the time. I haven’t done any home fogging since so I just brushed it off. Definitely want to know more about it since it should add one more product to offer in my arsenal. I agree with it not being too popular and not much is known about it. I’ll try grabbing a bag one day and checking it out. Maybe it is a great product that not many know about it. At least the old heads that I know don’t know much about it either. Thanks again for the great info. Hopefully I can do a video about it in the future. 👍🏼
@@blackhemi8 Ya, when I called Parex earlier this week, it was hard to get a person to answer the call. I probably called 10 times! Forgot to mention that the guy I talked to said that the ElRey building in Albuquerque has the Allegro product applied to it. BTW, I'm not in California, but found a website by a company in California named, Fog Coat Corporation, that uses the Allegro product. They still call it Fog Coating, even though they use the Allegro product instead of the LaHabra Fog Coat product. Well maybe they use both products. It's not clear. There are some youtube videos on Fog Coating from Kirk Giordano plastering, but he's referring to real Fog Coating, not the Allegro product. He's not a fan of Fog Coating. It doesn't sound like he is aware of the Allegro product at all, or maybe he is, and just doesn't think it is a good solution for color changing stucco. Anyway keep up the good work!
Hey guys am in the same spot trying to just fit the stucco with some fog coat to hit the stained around the house trying to figure what products from La Habra to use I was trying to get it from homedepot but there no help and its seem like fog coat is not popular or not much people know about it much I was wondering if I can use the small color bag they sell next to the stucco to do the the coating around the house or do I still need the fog coat bag ?
Yes sir. It doesn’t guarantee that they will never crack again, but it is a strong enough product that it’ll hold for a long time. Depending of the severity of the cracks. If the crack is too wide, then the problem lies on the wire, therefore chipping the crack out and installing new wire. I hope this helps.
Negative. If the wall (such as this wall) has not been painted, then you can apply stucco over it. In fact, you can go ahead and re stucco your house without any bonding agent if the walls have stucco that has not been painted over them.
@@blackhemi8would you paint a stucco color coated home? It seems to be common practice! I had to paint both of my chimneys and I haven’t decided what to do with the walls. I have the paint match but I know my stucco is color coated from 2006
Unfortunately or fortunately I stopped doing stucco already. I did at one point. This house was repaired in Riverside, but yes, at one point I was all over Southern California. Thank you for watching.
@@blackhemi8 Well, congrats for moving to a new career area! Any body you know that you would recommend that is on par with your work? I'm in the Lake Forest area.
as said by every stucco guy, stucco will crack.....and using stucco patch they will crack again. That looks great but I use caulk because it lasts the longest. the reason it cracked is because the movement of the building....Another concrete product will do the same in a very short time.
Hey Mike. I see you’re a painter. It’s very common to repair a crack with caulk if the house has been painted. However, this house is color coated and it can still be repaired using this method. It’s very rare to see a plasterer patch a crack with caulking because we know it’ll be an eye sore. We get hire to make it look like nothing ever happened. There’s more to a repair than just applying caulking into a crack and telling the homeowner that this is the best a PLASTERER can do. This isn’t stucco patch btw. I would never recommend that product if you patch a color coated house. Thanks for watching.
@@JonathanRamirez-sm6pz thanks. Takes years to know how to match the texture and color match. I understand him though, he needs to get his. Thanks for watching.
Sure. I used foamtek by omega, but you can use polyprep by LaHabra or poly bond by Merlex. Not sure if Merlex is still around. As far as stucco, you can use LaHabra from the Home Depot.
If done correctly, this repair will not show and it will hold as well. Not saying it won’t crack in many years later since anything can happen, but I have found it to be a better method than some other ones that I know. How do you repair cracks? I’m asking to pick up some pointers.
@@blackhemi8 after u put bonder over the caulking, I’ve done this for over 38 years man , I’m not talking shit bro , u have your way I have mine , I’ve never had a call back either,.
@@DavidSanchez-ot3it that’s fine. My question was, was, “ would you FOG over the caulking to make it blend with the rest of the house? “ Just a question. You and I know that a painted surface isn’t patched like an original stucco surface.
@@DavidSanchez-ot3it didn’t answer my question, but moving on. I can’t say I can. I am aware of what I can and cannot do. I can’t say that I can match every single texture because I’ll be lying. I have heard of guys that have said they can match anything and welllll 😬 I’ll just leave it at that. You’re obviously way older than me and I won’t get into a back and forth argument with you. I don’t plan on doing this my whole life. Good thing for you, I will be out of the industry soon (long overdue) and won’t “ruin” any more homes. Good day sir.
Matched texture 💯💯👌🇮🇹🇨🇦
Thank you. Thanks for watching.
bad ass !!!! beautiful work big dawg!
Thank you. That’s for watching.
Tu est tres minutieux et tes réparages sont parfait.
Thanks man
..I'm going to do some of my repairs
Best of luck 👍🏽
What do you charge for that amazing service you offer
@@jacec5855 thanks. This is just a distant memory of what I used to do. Good times though. Thanks for watching.
amazing 👏
Thanks
You're really talented!
What do you think about LaHabra Allegro 2 Cement Coating for changing stucco color, say going from a lighter to a darker color? They say that "it is neither Fog Coat nor Paint, Allegro is something between the two and is the product designed to change or in some cases provide surface color." Have you ever tried this product and is it hype?
What do you think about painting stucco with an acrylic paint?
How often can you Fog Coat? In one video you mentioned that Fog Coat can create a lot of chalkiness if you over-apply, so it seems Fog Coat might make it difficult to paint the stucco in the future?
Thank you. Much appreciated it.
I think that on paper it might be a great product. However, I have not personally used it recently. I used it once a looong time ago helping another guy out and it didn’t work for him so we stopped using that same day. Having said that, I don’t think he mixed the product correctly to begin with. It is true that it is not neither paint nor fog since it has cement in it. I’ve been wanted to try it again for a while because it offers better (darker) colors that traditional stucco can not offer. I just need a family member to convince so I can use their house as a guinea pig to see how it works 😂. Really looking forward it to it though.
As far as painting goes, I don’t know much about it. There’s more guys out there that are more qualified to answer that question than I am. Sorry.
Fogging can get chalky off you go over it many many times. It’s fine if you spray it the way I do. I say that because I’ve seen videos of walls getting sprayed a little too much that they can in fact become chalky. I’ve seems homes that have been fogged from lighter to darker and in time it seems like they get washed up little by little. Maybe for the untrained eye it might not seem like a big deal, but guys that do this for a living can see the color has been discolored. I think fogging the house once maybe twice having a similar color should be fine as long as you don’t pressure wash the house.
@@blackhemi8 Good info!
I talked to Parex/LaHabra tech support about the Allegro 2 product and they said that it really needs to be applied with an airless sprayer for best results (rolling / pump sprayer won't look very good). Also it shouldn't chalk or wash-off (like a Fog Coat might do) since it is a polymer-modified cement and will truly bond to the existing stucco and will definitely allow for color change (dark to light, light to dark). If doing a dark color then they recommend also applying Parex 610 Matte Sealer to protect the dark color from UV degradation. Tech support also said that you could paint over the Allegro 2 with an acrylic or elastomeric paint say if things didn't turn out well.
The product has been out for about 10 years. Wished there were more reports about it good or bad online.
@@jmmec Looks like we learn something something everyday 👍🏼. I tried calling Parex from here in Riverside and I couldn’t get ahold of them. This was when the pandemic had just started. I was doing a project and wanted to offer Alegro II as an alternative, but I couldn’t get any info at the time. I haven’t done any home fogging since so I just brushed it off. Definitely want to know more about it since it should add one more product to offer in my arsenal. I agree with it not being too popular and not much is known about it. I’ll try grabbing a bag one day and checking it out. Maybe it is a great product that not many know about it. At least the old heads that I know don’t know much about it either. Thanks again for the great info. Hopefully I can do a video about it in the future. 👍🏼
@@blackhemi8 Ya, when I called Parex earlier this week, it was hard to get a person to answer the call. I probably called 10 times! Forgot to mention that the guy I talked to said that the ElRey building in Albuquerque has the Allegro product applied to it.
BTW, I'm not in California, but found a website by a company in California named, Fog Coat Corporation, that uses the Allegro product. They still call it Fog Coating, even though they use the Allegro product instead of the LaHabra Fog Coat product. Well maybe they use both products. It's not clear.
There are some youtube videos on Fog Coating from Kirk Giordano plastering, but he's referring to real Fog Coating, not the Allegro product. He's not a fan of Fog Coating. It doesn't sound like he is aware of the Allegro product at all, or maybe he is, and just doesn't think it is a good solution for color changing stucco.
Anyway keep up the good work!
Hey guys am in the same spot trying to just fit the stucco with some fog coat to hit the stained around the house trying to figure what products from La Habra to use I was trying to get it from homedepot but there no help and its seem like fog coat is not popular or not much people know about it much I was wondering if I can use the small color bag they sell next to the stucco to do the the coating around the house or do I still need the fog coat bag ?
What do you put in the cracks? foam tech?
Yes sir. It doesn’t guarantee that they will never crack again, but it is a strong enough product that it’ll hold for a long time. Depending of the severity of the cracks. If the crack is too wide, then the problem lies on the wire, therefore chipping the crack out and installing new wire. I hope this helps.
Nice job. Are you in So Cal?
Thanks. I sure am.
Do you have to put any bonding agent before adding the stucco?
Negative. If the wall (such as this wall) has not been painted, then you can apply stucco over it. In fact, you can go ahead and re stucco your house without any bonding agent if the walls have stucco that has not been painted over them.
@@blackhemi8would you paint a stucco color coated home? It seems to be common practice! I had to paint both of my chimneys and I haven’t decided what to do with the walls. I have the paint match but I know my stucco is color coated from 2006
Do you offer stucco repair work in Orange County?
Unfortunately or fortunately I stopped doing stucco already. I did at one point. This house was repaired in Riverside, but yes, at one point I was all over Southern California. Thank you for watching.
@@blackhemi8 Well, congrats for moving to a new career area! Any body you know that you would recommend that is on par with your work? I'm in the Lake Forest area.
@@hikeclimbsail Thank you. Email me at blackhemi8@yahoo.com
@@blackhemi8 Okay, thank you. Will do.
as said by every stucco guy, stucco will crack.....and using stucco patch they will crack again. That looks great but I use caulk because it lasts the longest. the reason it cracked is because the movement of the building....Another concrete product will do the same in a very short time.
Hey Mike. I see you’re a painter. It’s very common to repair a crack with caulk if the house has been painted. However, this house is color coated and it can still be repaired using this method. It’s very rare to see a plasterer patch a crack with caulking because we know it’ll be an eye sore. We get hire to make it look like nothing ever happened. There’s more to a repair than just applying caulking into a crack and telling the homeowner that this is the best a PLASTERER can do. This isn’t stucco patch btw. I would never recommend that product if you patch a color coated house. Thanks for watching.
So should I caulk the cracks instead and then add the texture? What is your process? Thanks
@@blackhemi8there’s a difference of levels here 😉 great job I’m sure he doesn’t have that much experience either even if he is a painter.
@@JonathanRamirez-sm6pz thanks. Takes years to know how to match the texture and color match. I understand him though, he needs to get his. Thanks for watching.
Can you share the product you used?
Sure. I used foamtek by omega, but you can use polyprep by LaHabra or poly bond by Merlex. Not sure if Merlex is still around. As far as stucco, you can use LaHabra from the Home Depot.
Theres a better way you wont see it and it will hold
If done correctly, this repair will not show and it will hold as well. Not saying it won’t crack in many years later since anything can happen, but I have found it to be a better method than some other ones that I know. How do you repair cracks? I’m asking to pick up some pointers.
Caulking is ur best friend
Would you caulk and fog over the caulking to make it blend with the rest of the house?
@@blackhemi8 after u put bonder over the caulking, I’ve done this for over 38 years man , I’m not talking shit bro , u have your way I have mine , I’ve never had a call back either,.
@@DavidSanchez-ot3it that’s fine. My question was, was, “ would you FOG over the caulking to make it blend with the rest of the house? “ Just a question. You and I know that a painted surface isn’t patched like an original stucco surface.
@@blackhemi8 that’s a different way we both know that . I can patch anything to mat regardless bud , can you ?
@@DavidSanchez-ot3it didn’t answer my question, but moving on. I can’t say I can. I am aware of what I can and cannot do. I can’t say that I can match every single texture because I’ll be lying. I have heard of guys that have said they can match anything and welllll 😬 I’ll just leave it at that. You’re obviously way older than me and I won’t get into a back and forth argument with you. I don’t plan on doing this my whole life. Good thing for you, I will be out of the industry soon (long overdue) and won’t “ruin” any more homes. Good day sir.