I DONT CARE IF HE HAS RESERVATIONS. It was HIS responsibility to mold this kid. He knew the situation when he got the job and he’s failed. Doug can’t stop the bleeding and has no idea how to. He did the same thing with Wentz and I fear he’s ruining Trevor the same way
Yeah I don't understand why wig is making excuses for Doug here. He's ruined a QB before in Wentz, he's doing it again with Lawrence. As an organization who is now paying him the big bucks, you are responsible for puting him in positions to succeed. Right now Doug is doing the complete opposite of that. You can't just raise your hands and say "welp this QB ain't working guess we gotta spend another decade finding another one". Hell no, you committed to this you go down with the ship if you think it's sinking. If this is what Doug really thinks fire his ass and get someone who actually cares.
@@aplfennPederson is a bad coach, but he’s not solely to blame. Ballke is the manager, he did nothing with this atrocious offensive line. But even if he did, I don’t care who the coach is, Lawrence is simply a bust. He plays scared, he over throws, and has no fire whatsoever “let’s go “ a million times a game don’t cut it
All of this sounds just like Philadelphia all over again! 😢 And Trevor unfortunately appears to have the same result Wentz had with the same coaching staff 😢...is that not enough to just fire them as unfortunate as they may appear to be and just move on and hope for the best for the remainder of the season 😔
I cut up my Trevor Lawrence Jersey today and turned it into cat toys for my cats. So even though im done with that bum Trevor, at least he is still providing entertainment to my cats! 😺😸
Tony, the tone in your voice says it all. Very disappointed all around. Hopefully there will be a silver lining that can be found. As a fan in Oviedo, Fl since middle school this is very sad to see. Thank you Tony for always being honest and providing local Jaguars news and reality!
I feel you Tony. Ppl dont understand, 30 yrs and youve only have about 6-7 to be excited about. It makes the expectations we had for this season hurt that much more
Trevor is plenty good enough. He’s way better than most AB’s out there. The coaching is awful! The front office is awful! They can’t build an oline worth a crap, but teams like kc can rebuild an oline in one off season. That’s on the GM.
I could've sworn that Khan was supposed to give Doug as much sway as Trent. Even so, it's still an indictment on him that Trent has any sway at all, when the whole football world was telling him Baalke should be gone. He's hardheaded. He should've hired an EVP, but is so sure of his intelligence that he didn't. The initial feel-good behind the Trevor pick was negated by him hiring Urban. The initial feel-good behind the Doug hire was negated by him keeping Baalke on staff. The common denominator is the well-meaning man at the top that keeps making bone-headed football decisions. But none of that explains how good players put on our uniform and all immediately turn into ducks.
I’ve been saying this same thing to everyone, he can fire all the people he wants. It won’t change the fact he does not know how to make football decisions. His resume with this franchise is hiring the wrong people and firing them when it’s too late. We need a VP of football operations.
Well articulated, Tony. We are hurt as Jaguars fans. All of us deserve a better product. Hopefully, one day, it will come together. Until then, I personally will be watching Locked on Jaguars to see how things progress.
Doug has lost this team. I can't count how many players I have seen standing around watching plays unfold....NO ONE is playing to the whistle, no one is playing to their ability. That all comes back to coaching.
been a jags fan my entire life and i’m 35… seen some BAD qb play… trevor is bad staring at targets and locking onto them and still throwing it he always throws fastballs he never throws anything else ( even checkdowns to rbs he’s firing missles ) he can’t read a defense he’s scared in the pocket
@@silentgrind34it’s obvious that’s what he did if u watched the game. He can still have a good game against a bad team so your reply is clueless. Obviously he’ll have a good game sooner or later. That doesn’t make him sucking wrong.
The best thing you said is what you said at the end. Go ask Doug the hard questions. It doesn't feel like our media in Jacksonville holds the coaches accountable tbh. They, as a whole, ask softball questions. Go ask his ass how good he thinks Trevor is. Ask him if he feels like he still deserves his job and why. I wish the Jax media were more like NY and Philly and other passionate areas' media. Ask the question! Please! Sincerely, An Everydayer
When have you ever seen a QB succeed with a bottom 3 OL? The QB position is significantly more reliant on other positions than you're letting off. Mahomes is struggling right now because his receivers are struggling. I have never seen a QB aside from Texans Deshaun Watson, succeed behind a bottom 3 OL, so I'll ask again: aside from Texans Watson, name a single QB that has ever been successful behind a bottom 3 OL.
This is for Trevor Lawrence if he reads this use the same as motivation to win to prove them wrong if not please step down so we can get the right guy to do it
I remember the first year with Doug- our offensive play calling was incredible, like a Dougie P masterclass. What happened? Is it press Taylor’s play calling now that changed everything? Did defenses figure us out? I just do t get it.
What I’m hearing is Trevor isn’t anywhere near Brady mentally, he has all the tools but not the brain to use those tools effectively at the NFL level. Notice I’m not saying he isn’t intelligent, he may or may not have a high football IQ, but if he does he doesn’t process quickly enough.
how can you with a bad oline put prime peyton manning and prime tom brady behind this line they gone be scared too and running for they life trevor aint no michael vick or lol
Wigg you on to something... at this point we gota stop thinking its something other than whats in your face... doug had wentz ready to win a mvp and even better won a super bowl with foles u mean to tell me he cant get trevor right? Naw he just aint good enough to take thst next step thats why this offense is struggling... but of course he csnt come out and say it
We're down 3 CB's, 2 Safety's, and our Pro Bowl middle LB? our defense is hurt bad and other teams know how to take advantage of that. Unfortunately it won't get any better until our Defense is healthy again because other teams will be dropping more points on them and our offense still can't put up more than 17 points.
You are TOTALLY RIGHT Wiggs about Trent and the moronic ish he says after making a silly pick in the draft. Ya know, the player that he could have got like 1 or 2 (minimal) rounds later in the draft and wasn't rated by damn near any scouting service to go around or near where he drafted the player. It isn't the first time we have had a GM who did this crap. Gene Smith was notorious to making picks that you scratched your head like WTF??
Maybe Trevor will do better with another organization Tony dungy got fired went to Indianapolis won a superbowl Doug Williams was traded won a superbowl with Washington so sometimes people need a change look at minshew now stop making excuses with players we have to win this is a talented team.
Drafting is our #1 issue and I’ve been saying this. You took 2 dt from the worst lsu defense in ten years and expect us to be better defensively because one of them was a 5 star in high school and has measurables instead of talent. ( I’m just giving an example of this draft and not every draft from not the worst drafting gm in nfl history statistically.) giving undeserving contracts, and not building the trenches and giving us some good pass rushers and o lineman. (Something that the best teams in the nfl have built up.)
Thing is we have seen Trevor play elite football in 2022 and I'd argue a lot if 2023. He's just clearly off mentally. This is a different qb, and I think a new regime and big change is what he needs
Then you have not watched the games for the last 2 years. Trevor has not changed at all. He has always made poor decisions, he has always over threw people, and he has never been a leader. We have the most over paid over rated qb in nfl history, and we are stuck with him. The really sad part is Mac is a better qb but we can’t start him because of what we are paying Trevor.
@Nick-hk9io mf what? He literally damn near took us to the AFC Championship two years ago and every single top tier analyst was saying he was a top 5 qb. And I watched him last year and for the most part he was very good up until the Niners game
@@ledgnr197gaming5then you need to go back and watch him again. If I remember right he had to come back in a record fashion in the chargers game because he was so bad in the first half. He is not good and people need to stop looking past the fact he is the main reason we don’t score on offense.
@Nick-hk9io bro maybe on of the ints in that game were his fault and he then bounced back and led an unreal comeback that was ALL bc of him offensively with the help of our defense ofc. And no he is not the main reason we don't score every film nerd analyst would completely disagree unless we are talking about the last two games and even then there's a bunch of other shit
@@ledgnr197gaming5keep believing but the jaguars are not going anywhere until people realize he is not a starter and we need to find a qb to lees this team.
I cut up my Trevor Lawrence Jersey today and turned it into cat toys for my cats. So even though im done with that bum Trevor, at least he is still providing entertainment to my cats! 😺😸
Deverydayer here. Sick and Tired of This regime. If Trevor really gave a damn about this team he would have taken a modest contract and got some OLine or other things that could help him. I am not really sold on Trevor Lawrence anymore. I had been for years upon years but it has gotten to the point ANY QB can be good if surrounded with a great OLine, WR's, etc. Can Trevor turn it around, we shall see. I think Caldwell was given a bad break.. If there was a coordinator that should have been fired last year it should have been Press. The Defense was progressing (rushing the passer). Josh Hines-Allen had his best year, Trayvon made great progress, Caldwell had to deal with a bunch of issues during the season.
I h oped the Jags would drift or sign a guy able to help Lawerence develop. Witten was one in a lifetime talent, bu he was a great "safety blanket" for Dallas. My example
When you have a GM who drafts players based on “traits”, “upside” and everything else except the God given ability to actually do what the coaches are asking them to do, then these are the results you’ll get. How many superstars draft picks fell to the jags just to be passed on for players that they “felt” had better measurables and upside. What a stupid way of scouting talent. This is all Trent’s fault. The players aren’t good enough to do what Doug asking them to do. Trent is a man who has no accountability and would rather double down than admit fault.
Why we fired our dc last year? We been well def wise. We always struggled offensive. Should have fire all offensive stuff and keep defensiv ones. Also deff. Got weaker
Trent ran this organization to the ground. Shad also has no idea how to make the right football decisions. Trent should have been fired along with Urban. Shad continues to make wrong hires and fires them then we’re back at square one. The same reasons Trent and Doug got fired from their last jobs are the exact reasons why we aren’t succeding now. You are 100% correct that Trent ran that defense staff out, when truth was he should have been fired. But Shad not knowing football listened to Trent and fired Caldwell which I disagreed with from the start.
Eh, Caldwell needed to go. He never made adjustments at the half and it seemed like every team we went against ran the same offense he couldn’t stop. At this point, any and everyone is to blame. If Shad fires Doug but not Trent, we’ll go through this same stuff again
Jacksonville last chance to move in a major role as a city thanks to Mr weaver and all his work we are not Miami Orlando Tampa we don’t have the luxury of a failing this franchise we have to win.
I see the same...Doug never really over praises Trevor...I can feel his lack of confidence in Trevor. I also think Urban may have been right...He wanted Trevor to earn his spot. Minshew was out playing him in camp...period. players are just too wimpy today to have a hard nose coach...period. Wimps with no killer instinct. And Coach P eterson is handcuffed having to play Trevor. He was more complementary of Matt Jones...b/c he is more of a leader than TLaw...period
How many QB’s are there in the league right now that have the ability to carry a team when everything else breaks down? Mahomes and Josh Allen are the only 2 I can think of right now, Maybe Burrow but they’re 0-3 too. Those guys aren’t walking through the door. We can’t fix this thing until we’re honest with what we have. We have a few nice pieces but clearly not enough. The offense didn’t give up 40+. We have no pass rush therefore exposing a weak secondary and our WR’s can’t separate and Trevor is playing like crap right now. This starts with roster building. Tlaw needs help this sin’t all on him.
Please stop with the Lawrence is good crap. Did anyone see the BIG difference between our qb and Allen???? And we have a Superbowl winning coach who won off a qb we traded for that never lived up to that Superbowl game smh. Lawrence is a bad decision maker and is scared of running. Even #0 shrugged off Lawrence last night. Our defense is actually good but what good is it if its always 3 and out. Coach needs to mix it up... at least give Jones a try for the season sake. Maybe that will put a fire under the 55 million prince as they call him smh. Bad performance last night and nothing is gonna change if they keep it this way.
sounds like we got a HC who's already given up on the QB, how can Trevor ever be successful with that? We've seen what's happened with Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield once they got to teams that actually believed in them, looks like Jags are next up on that list.
In my opinion, I think it's the higher-ups in the NFL. Let me explain. They plant a garbage GM in the front office (Trent Baalke) then rig games to be the way they want them to be, heck, look at how they've been rigging games for Kansas City to consistently win the way they have been, very fishy to me. The commissioner, as well as all the other owners, don't want the Jaguars in Jacksonville and never have because it's a "small market," and that's no secret. Think about it, a talented team like our home team Jaguars comes out and loses very badly and consistently, get the fans to think we should get rid of them and then boom....that gives the NFL the go ahead to move the team to a much "bigger" market. That's part of the billionaires plan to crap on the little people. I wouldn't be surprised one bit, but they forgot one thing.... no matter how bad our Jaguars are, we love our team, and we will go to bat for them, win or lose, because we are very determined to keep our Jaguars, they are ours.......and we will win in the end...........DUUUVAL!!!!!
I agree that Lawrence is not as good as his hype since draft. They have no choice tho. They’re stuck with him now no matter what. That throw to Thomas was so bad and he was so open. He was also fixated on Thomas and Gabriel the first 3 games to a fault. He couldn’t regularly complete anything until he started throwing to Kirk. I don’t know why they stopped going to Kirk this year since I thought he was going to be the #1 wr with Ridley gone.
is as clear as the sky that doug does not trust trevor… he’s seen trevor throw the dumbest passes ever and has decided that’s not my guy and we need to make it simple for him but trevor just is not him man.. it’s sad bc i was so happy we got him but all these rookie qbs coming into the league and winning has shown us how bad he is
So if Trevor Lawrence was on Miami right now, he would be bad? The team is bad ,football is a team sport Sam Darold doing as good as he does on the Vikings and Baker Mayfield doing as good as he does in Tampa Bay points out the flaw in your logicfor a good quarterbacks to succeed the system around them has to be successful, Tom Brady could come out of retirement play on the current Jaguars team, and they would still be 0-3
MC was not the problem last year looking at the numbers MC improved the defense from 22 to 23...All our other delusional fans always fall for they bull crap, The problem has always been Trent, Offense Coaches and O-Line
Trevor doesn’t have the scramble ability to perform in this team. To be honest in the short time I’ve watched the NFL the best QBs run around to make plays.
Man, we are going to regret blaming Trevor when he thrives in a better franchise and wins a Superbowl or two. I'm not hopping on this trend. Fire Trent, I guess Doug too because I want a clean slate. I want a franchise that can establish itself with a GM that isn't hated around the league and a head coach that brings the best out of his team. The team has no heart. You said it well Trent is treating it like madden, he just wants skill players. I'm tired of taking Philly's sloppy seconds (Foles, Peterson).
Sam Darnold type stuff man. Dude is just shook, but we know he can play ELITE football. He just needs a better situation and mental/cultural environment and I think he resurges
@@ledgnr197gaming5 at what point has he specifically played elite football? From a statistical and eye test perspective he literally never has. He’s played at a pretty good level for some stretches but he’s never even looked close to what we saw from Josh Allen last night. That’s elite
Travon Walker, swing and miss. Anton Harrison, swing and miss. Brian Thomas, jury is out but he hasn't had a game like any of the other top guys. MHjr, Nabers, Odunze....have you seen a stand out guy among his 2nd or 3rd rounders? Trent Baalke has literally missed on EVERY pick he has made. I've defended this team during this bad stretch but at some point you gotta call a spade a spade. Trent Baalke has built a bad team that has over achieved at times.
Tank for QB sheduar sanders i’ve had it with Trev we’ve seen enough he’s too inconsistent, doesn’t have that dog in him. Trade him to Denver for picks & defensive lineman
Josh allen hines isnt worth his contract one good season and paid him like hes t.j. trevon walker what a joke he's a bust. Tyson and Lloyd are both bust. Trevor regressed and is a bust. Shouldn't signed Gabe,savage,Armstrong, honestly the should have not paid anyone. They need to see what the can get in a trade for all of them
I think he's TRASH because he Has everything around him to "LIVE UP TO THE HYPE," but we see it was "ALL HYPE," and at least I'VE been CONSISTENTLY Saying it since the NFL COMBINE!!!!! So imma TAKE my credit for being RIGHT
We are seeng EXACTLY what happened when the Eagles collapsed under Doug. The man stinks, the SB season was an fluke. Every other season hes had as HC is either 9ish wins or catastrophe. Get him OUT of jacksonville.
At this point, especially after what I witnessed last night,I blame the entire Jacksonville Jaguars franchise
Dear Shad,
WE DESERVE BETTER!
-Duval
I DONT CARE IF HE HAS RESERVATIONS. It was HIS responsibility to mold this kid. He knew the situation when he got the job and he’s failed. Doug can’t stop the bleeding and has no idea how to. He did the same thing with Wentz and I fear he’s ruining Trevor the same way
Yeah I don't understand why wig is making excuses for Doug here. He's ruined a QB before in Wentz, he's doing it again with Lawrence. As an organization who is now paying him the big bucks, you are responsible for puting him in positions to succeed. Right now Doug is doing the complete opposite of that. You can't just raise your hands and say "welp this QB ain't working guess we gotta spend another decade finding another one". Hell no, you committed to this you go down with the ship if you think it's sinking. If this is what Doug really thinks fire his ass and get someone who actually cares.
@@macgobhann8712 amen
I’ve been saying this on every platform all day. Doug is a QB killer. Ruined Wentz and is ruining Trevor.
So at what point are we going to look at Trevor…this would be the 2nd coach fired…#itsnevertrever 😂
@@aplfennPederson is a bad coach, but he’s not solely to blame. Ballke is the manager, he did nothing with this atrocious offensive line. But even if he did, I don’t care who the coach is, Lawrence is simply a bust. He plays scared, he over throws, and has no fire whatsoever “let’s go “ a million times a game don’t cut it
All of this sounds just like Philadelphia all over again! 😢 And Trevor unfortunately appears to have the same result Wentz had with the same coaching staff 😢...is that not enough to just fire them as unfortunate as they may appear to be and just move on and hope for the best for the remainder of the season 😔
This needs to be talked about more
This offense has looked handicapped since we let Jim Bob Cooter go.
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
I cut up my Trevor Lawrence Jersey today and turned it into cat toys for my cats. So even though im done with that bum Trevor, at least he is still providing entertainment to my cats! 😺😸
The best D is a good offense. Jags don’t scare anyone with the ball
Jim bob cooter shoulda been our OC instead of letting him walk to indy...
Tony, the tone in your voice says it all. Very disappointed all around. Hopefully there will be a silver lining that can be found. As a fan in Oviedo, Fl since middle school this is very sad to see.
Thank you Tony for always being honest and providing local Jaguars news and reality!
I feel you Tony. Ppl dont understand, 30 yrs and youve only have about 6-7 to be excited about. It makes the expectations we had for this season hurt that much more
Trevor is plenty good enough. He’s way better than most AB’s out there. The coaching is awful! The front office is awful! They can’t build an oline worth a crap, but teams like kc can rebuild an oline in one off season. That’s on the GM.
Bro he runs into sacks 😂 he’s not plenty good
You just said it's the coaching...
Trevor doesn’t have the ability to uplift the team an make them better … “Generational Trait”
@@CornerstoreRod.then explain 2022 and 2023
@@bigcurtnumba9798he absolutely does not. He’s been sacked 10 times this year and only 2-3 have been his fault. This is a fact.
I could've sworn that Khan was supposed to give Doug as much sway as Trent. Even so, it's still an indictment on him that Trent has any sway at all, when the whole football world was telling him Baalke should be gone. He's hardheaded. He should've hired an EVP, but is so sure of his intelligence that he didn't. The initial feel-good behind the Trevor pick was negated by him hiring Urban. The initial feel-good behind the Doug hire was negated by him keeping Baalke on staff. The common denominator is the well-meaning man at the top that keeps making bone-headed football decisions.
But none of that explains how good players put on our uniform and all immediately turn into ducks.
I’ve been saying this same thing to everyone, he can fire all the people he wants. It won’t change the fact he does not know how to make football decisions. His resume with this franchise is hiring the wrong people and firing them when it’s too late. We need a VP of football operations.
Well articulated, Tony. We are hurt as Jaguars fans. All of us deserve a better product. Hopefully, one day, it will come together. Until then, I personally will be watching Locked on Jaguars to see how things progress.
Doug has lost this team. I can't count how many players I have seen standing around watching plays unfold....NO ONE is playing to the whistle, no one is playing to their ability. That all comes back to coaching.
I'm down bad tremendously cuz I don't know how this gets fixed anytime soon.
I feel bad for BTJ and Tank
Me too
Tank isn't good lol
@@ledgnr197gaming5you’re stupid lmfao
@@ledgnr197gaming5better than ettiene
They both sorry
been a jags fan my entire life and i’m 35… seen some BAD qb play…
trevor is bad
staring at targets and locking onto them and still throwing it
he always throws fastballs he never throws anything else ( even checkdowns to rbs he’s firing missles )
he can’t read a defense
he’s scared in the pocket
lol I can’t wait for y’all to eat these words some of y’all haven’t played a lick of football
@@silentgrind34it’s obvious that’s what he did if u watched the game. He can still have a good game against a bad team so your reply is clueless. Obviously he’ll have a good game sooner or later. That doesn’t make him sucking wrong.
nah man i seen worse as a jags fan
I wonder how much better the defense would be if Walker had 6.5 sacks like Hutchinson
Dont act like Hutch would ball out if he would play for the jags. Jags find way to ruin players.
i guareentee you he wouldnt be the same player here
The best thing you said is what you said at the end. Go ask Doug the hard questions. It doesn't feel like our media in Jacksonville holds the coaches accountable tbh. They, as a whole, ask softball questions. Go ask his ass how good he thinks Trevor is. Ask him if he feels like he still deserves his job and why. I wish the Jax media were more like NY and Philly and other passionate areas' media.
Ask the question! Please!
Sincerely,
An Everydayer
When have you ever seen a QB succeed with a bottom 3 OL? The QB position is significantly more reliant on other positions than you're letting off. Mahomes is struggling right now because his receivers are struggling. I have never seen a QB aside from Texans Deshaun Watson, succeed behind a bottom 3 OL, so I'll ask again: aside from Texans Watson, name a single QB that has ever been successful behind a bottom 3 OL.
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This is for Trevor Lawrence if he reads this use the same as motivation to win to prove them wrong if not please step down so we can get the right guy to do it
you were right Wigg, Jags never fail to find a new way to lose, might be the only thing they're good at.
I remember the first year with Doug- our offensive play calling was incredible, like a Dougie P masterclass. What happened? Is it press Taylor’s play calling now that changed everything? Did defenses figure us out? I just do t get it.
Trevor Lawrence was never a Doug Pederson draft pick. He was just assigned to be the one to elevate his career.
Great show brother!
What I’m hearing is Trevor isn’t anywhere near Brady mentally, he has all the tools but not the brain to use those tools effectively at the NFL level. Notice I’m not saying he isn’t intelligent, he may or may not have a high football IQ, but if he does he doesn’t process quickly enough.
how can you with a bad oline put prime peyton manning and prime tom brady behind this line they gone be scared too and running for they life trevor aint no michael vick or lol
The defense did enough to win the first two games, the offense has been the biggest disappointment
Wigg you on to something... at this point we gota stop thinking its something other than whats in your face... doug had wentz ready to win a mvp and even better won a super bowl with foles u mean to tell me he cant get trevor right? Naw he just aint good enough to take thst next step thats why this offense is struggling... but of course he csnt come out and say it
We're down 3 CB's, 2 Safety's, and our Pro Bowl middle LB? our defense is hurt bad and other teams know how to take advantage of that. Unfortunately it won't get any better until our Defense is healthy again because other teams will be dropping more points on them and our offense still can't put up more than 17 points.
You have it backwards, Pederson isn't getting the message players on offense are sending...
We won't play for Press Taylor anymore
You are TOTALLY RIGHT Wiggs about Trent and the moronic ish he says after making a silly pick in the draft. Ya know, the player that he could have got like 1 or 2 (minimal) rounds later in the draft and wasn't rated by damn near any scouting service to go around or near where he drafted the player. It isn't the first time we have had a GM who did this crap. Gene Smith was notorious to making picks that you scratched your head like WTF??
Brian Flores would be a good coach to consider as our HC. We would have hard nose physical identity.
We need a mean coach . These coaches are soft af
We have the talent. It’s coaching
Gilmore is in Minnesota, 3-0 rn too
Maybe Trevor will do better with another organization Tony dungy got fired went to Indianapolis won a superbowl Doug Williams was traded won a superbowl with Washington so sometimes people need a change look at minshew now stop making excuses with players we have to win this is a talented team.
Drafting is our #1 issue and I’ve been saying this. You took 2 dt from the worst lsu defense in ten years and expect us to be better defensively because one of them was a 5 star in high school and has measurables instead of talent. ( I’m just giving an example of this draft and not every draft from not the worst drafting gm in nfl history statistically.) giving undeserving contracts, and not building the trenches and giving us some good pass rushers and o lineman. (Something that the best teams in the nfl have built up.)
We don’t have one play where a guy runs wide open 12 yards down the field. Is our D that bad or is our O that boring? I’d say both!
Now I see why Philly got rid of him
GM and HC should be let go. It’s been a group effort to field this mess.
No apparent passion anywhere in this organization. From the ownership down.
Minnesota here. We'll send you Darnold and a extended contract for Trevor Lawrence.
Darnold is playing really well
It feels like this team has become an experiment gone horribly wrong. 😕
I never had a great feeling about Phil Rauscher, we blame the line. Phil isn’t talked about enough
Thing is we have seen Trevor play elite football in 2022 and I'd argue a lot if 2023. He's just clearly off mentally. This is a different qb, and I think a new regime and big change is what he needs
Then you have not watched the games for the last 2 years. Trevor has not changed at all. He has always made poor decisions, he has always over threw people, and he has never been a leader. We have the most over paid over rated qb in nfl history, and we are stuck with him. The really sad part is Mac is a better qb but we can’t start him because of what we are paying Trevor.
@Nick-hk9io mf what? He literally damn near took us to the AFC Championship two years ago and every single top tier analyst was saying he was a top 5 qb. And I watched him last year and for the most part he was very good up until the Niners game
@@ledgnr197gaming5then you need to go back and watch him again. If I remember right he had to come back in a record fashion in the chargers game because he was so bad in the first half. He is not good and people need to stop looking past the fact he is the main reason we don’t score on offense.
@Nick-hk9io bro maybe on of the ints in that game were his fault and he then bounced back and led an unreal comeback that was ALL bc of him offensively with the help of our defense ofc. And no he is not the main reason we don't score every film nerd analyst would completely disagree unless we are talking about the last two games and even then there's a bunch of other shit
@@ledgnr197gaming5keep believing but the jaguars are not going anywhere until people realize he is not a starter and we need to find a qb to lees this team.
I cut up my Trevor Lawrence Jersey today and turned it into cat toys for my cats. So even though im done with that bum Trevor, at least he is still providing entertainment to my cats! 😺😸
Deverydayer here. Sick and Tired of This regime. If Trevor really gave a damn about this team he would have taken a modest contract and got some OLine or other things that could help him. I am not really sold on Trevor Lawrence anymore. I had been for years upon years but it has gotten to the point ANY QB can be good if surrounded with a great OLine, WR's, etc. Can Trevor turn it around, we shall see. I think Caldwell was given a bad break.. If there was a coordinator that should have been fired last year it should have been Press. The Defense was progressing (rushing the passer). Josh Hines-Allen had his best year, Trayvon made great progress, Caldwell had to deal with a bunch of issues during the season.
I h oped the Jags would drift or sign a guy able to help Lawerence develop. Witten was one in a lifetime talent, bu he was a great "safety blanket" for Dallas. My example
This team has quit on him, from the start of the game they had no fight
I hear stuff like this team are so close with one another and I wonder if that's true
When you have a GM who drafts players based on “traits”, “upside” and everything else except the God given ability to actually do what the coaches are asking them to do, then these are the results you’ll get. How many superstars draft picks fell to the jags just to be passed on for players that they “felt” had better measurables and upside. What a stupid way of scouting talent. This is all Trent’s fault. The players aren’t good enough to do what Doug asking them to do. Trent is a man who has no accountability and would rather double down than admit fault.
Fire trent, doug and press or trade Trevor. There is a total disconnect between trevor and the staff. They cannot coexist!!!
Why we fired our dc last year? We been well def wise. We always struggled offensive. Should have fire all offensive stuff and keep defensiv ones. Also deff. Got weaker
Trent ran this organization to the ground. Shad also has no idea how to make the right football decisions. Trent should have been fired along with Urban. Shad continues to make wrong hires and fires them then we’re back at square one. The same reasons Trent and Doug got fired from their last jobs are the exact reasons why we aren’t succeding now. You are 100% correct that Trent ran that defense staff out, when truth was he should have been fired. But Shad not knowing football listened to Trent and fired Caldwell which I disagreed with from the start.
It ISNT SHAD'S MISTAKE....Hr has gotten the best coaches available in everyones eyes. Pederson was my pick too and everyone elses...
Knew this was going to happen press is garbage should of kept Caldwell they owe him an apology. Ben Johnson needs to be our next head coach
Eh, Caldwell needed to go. He never made adjustments at the half and it seemed like every team we went against ran the same offense he couldn’t stop.
At this point, any and everyone is to blame. If Shad fires Doug but not Trent, we’ll go through this same stuff again
This was my team everyday But now Im just here for Tony
Jacksonville last chance to move in a major role as a city thanks to Mr weaver and all his work we are not Miami Orlando Tampa we don’t have the luxury of a failing this franchise we have to win.
Not turning the fans into ‘FBI agents’ 😂😂😂 Thanks for the laugh!
Do we even have an Identity? When was the last time we did?
I see the same...Doug never really over praises Trevor...I can feel his lack of confidence in Trevor. I also think Urban may have been right...He wanted Trevor to earn his spot. Minshew was out playing him in camp...period. players are just too wimpy today to have a hard nose coach...period. Wimps with no killer instinct. And Coach P eterson is handcuffed having to play Trevor. He was more complementary of Matt Jones...b/c he is more of a leader than TLaw...period
How many QB’s are there in the league right now that have the ability to carry a team when everything else breaks down? Mahomes and Josh Allen are the only 2 I can think of right now, Maybe Burrow but they’re 0-3 too. Those guys aren’t walking through the door. We can’t fix this thing until we’re honest with what we have. We have a few nice pieces but clearly not enough. The offense didn’t give up 40+. We have no pass rush therefore exposing a weak secondary and our WR’s can’t separate and Trevor is playing like crap right now. This starts with roster building. Tlaw needs help this sin’t all on him.
CJ stroud, which is an issue because he’ll run our division for the next decade.
So if your POSITION COACH does NOT LIKE the GM...the players play bad? Is THAT what we are saying? the same GM who SELECTED the players? cmon man
Please stop with the Lawrence is good crap. Did anyone see the BIG difference between our qb and Allen???? And we have a Superbowl winning coach who won off a qb we traded for that never lived up to that Superbowl game smh. Lawrence is a bad decision maker and is scared of running. Even #0 shrugged off Lawrence last night. Our defense is actually good but what good is it if its always 3 and out. Coach needs to mix it up... at least give Jones a try for the season sake. Maybe that will put a fire under the 55 million prince as they call him smh. Bad performance last night and nothing is gonna change if they keep it this way.
It'd press Taylor and trent balke no olime whst do ever we are drpuping balls and not opening up the field four etn
sounds like we got a HC who's already given up on the QB, how can Trevor ever be successful with that? We've seen what's happened with Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield once they got to teams that actually believed in them, looks like Jags are next up on that list.
It would be cool if Trevor went to miami
Or maybe be backup to a veteran QB and coach
Trevor should believe in Trevor.....
Josh Allen just wanted the money! He don’t care !
Gilmore play for the Vikings
In my opinion, I think it's the higher-ups in the NFL. Let me explain. They plant a garbage GM in the front office (Trent Baalke) then rig games to be the way they want them to be, heck, look at how they've been rigging games for Kansas City to consistently win the way they have been, very fishy to me. The commissioner, as well as all the other owners, don't want the Jaguars in Jacksonville and never have because it's a "small market," and that's no secret. Think about it, a talented team like our home team Jaguars comes out and loses very badly and consistently, get the fans to think we should get rid of them and then boom....that gives the NFL the go ahead to move the team to a much "bigger" market. That's part of the billionaires plan to crap on the little people. I wouldn't be surprised one bit, but they forgot one thing.... no matter how bad our Jaguars are, we love our team, and we will go to bat for them, win or lose, because we are very determined to keep our Jaguars, they are ours.......and we will win in the end...........DUUUVAL!!!!!
I agree that Lawrence is not as good as his hype since draft. They have no choice tho. They’re stuck with him now no matter what. That throw to Thomas was so bad and he was so open. He was also fixated on Thomas and Gabriel the first 3 games to a fault. He couldn’t regularly complete anything until he started throwing to Kirk. I don’t know why they stopped going to Kirk this year since I thought he was going to be the #1 wr with Ridley gone.
Go back to shotgun, rpo, one read Clemson offense. The under center peyton manning offense doesn't fit TL16 and etn.
If that's the case, then Lawrence is not an NFL QB.
If we all liked the roster, i tend to just blame Doug 🤷
Bust
is as clear as the sky that doug does not trust trevor…
he’s seen trevor throw the dumbest passes ever and has decided that’s not my guy and we need to make it simple for him
but trevor just is not him man.. it’s sad bc i was so happy we got him but all these rookie qbs coming into the league and winning has shown us how bad he is
Bad organizations can kill quarterbacks, you see so often around this league and that’s what’s going on with the jags period!!!!!
I don't think Trevor has enough between the ears. Also, Cam Robinson has been hotdog water.
So if Trevor Lawrence was on Miami right now, he would be bad? The team is bad ,football is a team sport Sam Darold doing as good as he does on the Vikings and Baker Mayfield doing as good as he does in Tampa Bay points out the flaw in your logicfor a good quarterbacks to succeed the system around them has to be successful, Tom Brady could come out of retirement play on the current Jaguars team, and they would still be 0-3
Kirk drpuping and btj drpup balls
Actually - the Jags do NOT look like they are trying hard
Josh Allen was fantastic! 😮
MC was not the problem last year looking at the numbers MC improved the defense from 22 to 23...All our other delusional fans always fall for they bull crap, The problem has always been Trent, Offense Coaches and O-Line
has anyone ever thought about that?
maybe doug knows trevor isn’t the answer…. and he’s tied to him bc trent
put a prime Peyton manning and prime Tom brady behind this line do you think the outcome would be diffrent?
A new quarterback
Trevor doesn’t have the scramble ability to perform in this team. To be honest in the short time I’ve watched the NFL the best QBs run around to make plays.
Man, we are going to regret blaming Trevor when he thrives in a better franchise and wins a Superbowl or two. I'm not hopping on this trend. Fire Trent, I guess Doug too because I want a clean slate. I want a franchise that can establish itself with a GM that isn't hated around the league and a head coach that brings the best out of his team. The team has no heart. You said it well Trent is treating it like madden, he just wants skill players.
I'm tired of taking Philly's sloppy seconds (Foles, Peterson).
trevor is here 7 more years he’s going nowhere….
Sam Darnold type stuff man. Dude is just shook, but we know he can play ELITE football. He just needs a better situation and mental/cultural environment and I think he resurges
@@ledgnr197gaming5 at what point has he specifically played elite football? From a statistical and eye test perspective he literally never has. He’s played at a pretty good level for some stretches but he’s never even looked close to what we saw from Josh Allen last night. That’s elite
@@ledgnr197gaming5 completely agree. he’s seeing ghosts
Trvor is NOT HIM...get a life. A true QB leader brings even a average team up..he elevates NO ONE
Oline has him seeing ghosts. Period
If the jags lost this week I believe tha should not wear the throwback jersey
This is tough, Trent has to go
Trevor Lawrence sucks
every time jags get a national game we choke and show the league we are clowns
What we don’t need is another Joe Namath
Travon Walker, swing and miss. Anton Harrison, swing and miss. Brian Thomas, jury is out but he hasn't had a game like any of the other top guys. MHjr, Nabers, Odunze....have you seen a stand out guy among his 2nd or 3rd rounders? Trent Baalke has literally missed on EVERY pick he has made. I've defended this team during this bad stretch but at some point you gotta call a spade a spade. Trent Baalke has built a bad team that has over achieved at times.
I love Doug but Bill Belichick 👀
I miss Minshew every day.
Tank for QB sheduar sanders i’ve had it with Trev we’ve seen enough he’s too inconsistent, doesn’t have that dog in him. Trade him to Denver for picks & defensive lineman
Old skool mad than a mf.
😂😂
Lia Thomas isn't Elway after all crowned them too soon just because he played at Clemson
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Trevor to busy starting a family . His head isn’t in the football anymore .
Josh allen hines isnt worth his contract one good season and paid him like hes t.j. trevon walker what a joke he's a bust. Tyson and Lloyd are both bust. Trevor regressed and is a bust. Shouldn't signed Gabe,savage,Armstrong, honestly the should have not paid anyone. They need to see what the can get in a trade for all of them
Trent Baalke picked the grocery and his cooking ain't good.
Unfortunately Jags just Jagging is a thing
I think he's TRASH because he Has everything around him to "LIVE UP TO THE HYPE," but we see it was "ALL HYPE," and at least I'VE been CONSISTENTLY Saying it since the NFL COMBINE!!!!! So imma TAKE my credit for being RIGHT
We are seeng EXACTLY what happened when the Eagles collapsed under Doug. The man stinks, the SB season was an fluke. Every other season hes had as HC is either 9ish wins or catastrophe. Get him OUT of jacksonville.
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