Have Campervans gone ELECTRIC? Certainly looks that way thanks to
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- @MotorhomeMatt gives me the low down with some help from John at @lifebeyondbricks . Could electric be the future of Motorhomes and Campervans? Maybe, but when...?? Matt shares his opinion of the @ford eTransit and the Bailey conversion which is a bit special! and when it may be viable. That said there is a lot of love for EV in this wonderful community of Motorhomes, Campervans and Caravanning... but a fair bit of scepticism too
Great video Paul, Was lovely to meet you again at the show. I am very impressed and encouraged with Bailey taking the leap forward and showing what can be done, We just need Ford to increase the battery size and efficiency of the drive train so the range is a little more 200-250 miles between charges would be about right for us.
The Iveco eDaily would be the only viable option for us right now, although, we would have to commission the motorhome build ourselves as no Converter in Europe are using these as yet.
Good insight John. Do have a look at the Stellantis press release outlining their new large Van EV for 24. A 260 Mike range… official figures so it will be nearer 200 in real life but a strong move in the right direction
@@electricvanman Thanks Paul, interesting to see the Stellantis 2nd gen large van for 24, will probably see a motorhome converter using this platform for a camper van at the next Caravan salon in Germany I expect.
Its great to see Bailey having a go at an EV camper but when you look at all the forums and feedback on this van at the only a very small amount of people would buy this because of range. All manufactures would love to see EV campers start to sell but until the real life range is 250 miles plus they will remain just a very small market but hopefully the time will come when they do work in the leisure industry.
I agree that this is very "early adopter" territory. The range is certainly not yet enough , on this vehicle, to facilitate the kind of trip that most of us would like. That said the VW ID Buzz starts to get there with north of 200 miles range and Stellantis have made a 250 ish mile range version of their large van, think Fiat Ducato. Although that will be less with a Motorhome conversion it may be OK for the campervan. We shall see as things develop!
250? I wouldn't even consider till they're well north of 500 mile range. My old T5, which has the big tank (85l) brought me back from the Vendee, through Glasgow to Ayrshire (on fumes...) without having to stop at all for fuel. just on 730miles
@@lfoster7601I find it helpful to look at efficiency figures when comparing ICE vehicles to BEV, to put this into perspective your Diesel T5 requires 850KWH of Energy (10KWH per litre of diesel) to travel 730miles, so roughly 0.9 miles per KWH on that journey. A comparable battery electric van Vauxhall e-Vivaro absolute worst case scenario does 2.5 miles per KWh. If you could fit a 850KWH battery in the E-vivaro you could do a staggering range of 2'125miles.
500+ mile range passenger BEV's will be available in the next couple of years but the Van sector lags behind considerably unfortunately due to weight constraints.
@@lifebeyondbricks Frankly I don;t really care how efficient or not the van is - it's only used when I NEED the range. Most of the rest of the time I cycle or take the train. Which more than offsets the ecological cost of running the van. If you want to talk efficiency, let's add my bike in, it requires zero fossil fuels to move it or charge it. It just needs me to burn some fat pedalling it.
@@lfoster7601That's more than fair, I agree a push bike is probably the best mode of transport we could all take up, would be better for our health and the planet.
I was disapointed not to see any other electric base veichles at the show. The transit base here is not up to the job but the 110 kWh vans coming from Iveco, Mercedes and Stelantis as well by the sounds of things should get the range up to about 200 miles for this type of van. For the smaller vans then the Stelantis 75kWh base veichle is suitable. I have a home build on the e-dispach.
The people that will early adopt are people with a standard electric car. After some use you learn thar you don"t realy need that big range if it charges reasonably fast. If you get to 200 miles that is workable with experiance.
A very well informed view. the upgrades coming from Stellantis and also the new Sprinter, with the now available vehicle from Iveco there are some real options which may start to tick the right boxes!
Dream for me = electric van with enough solar panels on the roof that it can help trickle charge the main battery. Won't be the main way power source, but will give a few extra miles per day.
Good luck taking one of these contraptions to the wilds of anywhere . Never mind , there is sure to be an old diesel engined tow truck coming sooner or later .
It could be an idea to check with your insurance company first before buying one. There is a big market correction happening with insurance of BEV's at present and a global car hire company will be looking to unload as many of the 100,000 Tesla's they bought because their maintenance costs are to high and that partly relates to the insurance problem but body repairs and tyres as well. I would not like to be tucked up in that vans cozy bed and the big battery decides to make you into a BBQ. An ICE powered van could do the same thing I suppose But I know which fire would present as more serious should it happen.
There is a market correction on everything insurance wise currently and it is due to the higher cost of repair due to the ever increasing safety tech including radar lane assist and so on. Longer waits on parts for all vehicles. EV’s do currently take longer to repair but first signs say on the whole less likely to be in an accident. REGARDING FIRE risk an EV is 24 time LESS likely to combust than an combustion engine vehicle. The fire risk is being vastly overstated!
*When BAILEY Goes Woke in Bristol we are are **-fucjy-** lost the plot !*