Because swampers are one of the most common used real scale good functioning tire, At least up here in washington. Great self cleaning tire. + the sizes you can purchase......
I have the 2.9" version of these on my SCX6 Jeep JLU with dual stage foams. I was pleasantly surprised how well they do on the sandstone up here along the riverbank. Completely blew away the stock Axial KM3 tires.
My 4.75" inserts were designed around the Proline TSL SX XL, though mine are Predator compound (Norwegian climate and all that). The set of inserts you have should fit perfectly and do well in the G8 version as well. :)
The swampers is probably most requested because it's one of the most best performing (and popular) tires in the 1:1 world. I have two 1:1 crawlers and they're the best performing I've found so far for the terrain in my state. I found when I first started messing with the RC version of the proline swampers, I couldn't get side hill performance at all. A few buddies recommended the proline dual stages. I didn't get them for a long time since I was running anti-foams from 3 brothers. Then I went to other 3d printed inserts that were made for the swampers. Still not very good. Finally got some proline dual stages and it was night and day for side hill. Not sure why but they work 😂
Thanks for the review, after our emails I considered buyin a set and shipping them the long way to TN through you so we could get this review. Now there is no need! Good to see how these stack up and as always, love the content!
Thank you! I bought this tire because I needed sand and rock tire, it does better than my hyrax for that, but I need to see how they do at crawler canyon!
So interesting that in the full size world the TSL would be preferred over the bogger for side hilling and lateral traction but here it was the other way around
This tire in 1/24 by Injora is an absolute beast. In door and out here in AZ. Finally pulled the trigger on these today and I don’t doubt they’ll perform any different. I think a “wider” offset would have helped your side hill. Even if it was 2mm.
You can't "unround" that shoulder. Pretty much every tire with that kind of profile does the same thing. Tires that excel on the side hill either have a very squared shoulder, or have tread blocks that extend down onto the sidewall (not just sidelugs) and seem to maintain stability where other tires fall away.
@@CrawlerCanyon I see exactly what you’re talking about. I will keep an eye out for this when I finally install them. I know this may sound like I’m arguing but I’m not I promise. When I had these in 1.0 from injora I went and bought “tuning disks” from Akers Enginnering. And basically it stiffened up that side wall enough to make its inherent problems with the rounded edges go away, side hilling and grabbing inside edges improved tremendously. No one that I know of makes “tuning disks” for 1/10 yet. I know 3D inserts and Silicone insets are all the rage but I feel like a more simple solution has been sorted out it just hasn’t been scaled up yet. I have plans to try some things out once I get some materials in my hands. What I want to try might actually help the Proline Trenchers as well. Ultimately I would like to test these out on my own with some video footage and then contact Will at Akers a see if maybe he can put them on his store permanently like his other 1.0 versions.
yep..same here. I luckily found a set of duratrax deep woods. Double bun in them? What would be your choice on insert for a 8lb rig? I even thought possibly Injora sillies. Considering your not a PL lover...Ill buy'em after the testing.
Im pretty late to this party, perhaps because i already own a set....in predator and g8....and 4.3...and swamper iroks... obviously i like them. I've had the 4.3 swampers for 5 years. And put at least 300 real miles on them. Only ever cleaned with simple green. And they have stayed remarkably sticky over the years. Originally picked for aesthetic reasons, but became the standard I measured from.
so.. when countering steering and reverse to self right... uh. love it. This is the same tire i got for the utb18.. er 12 or some other number. Have people come to test their 24th scale tires on your course?
Hey my favorite tire. I have like 10...11..no, 13 sets of SS TSL XL's in the G8. I have the Crawler Innovations single stage fronts, dual stage rear in all but one set...and I'm about to try that one set with the Injora silicone inserts.
The Crawler Innovation foams are smaller diameter and allow the tire to 'squish'...which I think really lends to being able to grip and pull over so many obstacles. When the tire is filled with insert or foam I'm uncertain if performance is better than with a 'squish' type insert. They jsut work so well with squish.
I live in a northern land of extreme temps. I concur, predator compound definitely gets too soft on the hottest of days. Even worse though is that I have actually torn through the predator tire tread on my local precambrian rock. All said, spring and fall they pretty awesome so I have not completely dismissed them. There is a certain pleasure I have derived from subjecting them to a certain thrashing. I should add that your review was indeed thorough. I think you pretty much nailed it though comparing it to a flat iron seems unfair to the tire. The Flat Iron has a beast of a shoulder . Perhaps compare them in the mud pit?
If you tried these on Eskee....being super, duper low CG...which might negate the side wall rolling over while side hilling, I'm seeing confetti and fireworks raining from the skies. LOL.
I use these on all my scale rigs I love them in the terrain I have here in mid wales Uk mud .shale .water, slate ,rocks etc I’ve not found any tyres yet that can outperform them on these mediums .and I’ve tried dozens ,from proline to RC4wd to the cheap Chinese tyres and none have beaten them yet .on my mud bog trucks I use cut rc4wd boggers .
First non-junkview tire test since the shock upgrade on baseline? I almost want to see the sidehill again on his old trusty shocks. Thanks for the vid!
Have brand new ones on predator compound ready to go once Beadlocks land here with injora blues and brass rings in front. The blues I saw on here. Predator all day every day 1000 times on Sunday lol But that’s if you just want straight up cling to shit. Man love watching you work. So many good tips all day every day 20000 times on Sunday!!! 🍻🤘
Exactly what it sounds like, the stuff you blow bubbles with. I've been using it as mounting solution for bicycle and RC tires for ages. Out of the same 32oz bottle that cost me 99¢ when my kids were small. Leaves no residue.
That’s crazy. I literally just got home after trading to get these tires in G8 compound. I recently got them in predator compound, which work great. I’ll have to do some side by side testing when it gets hot out. People in these parts say to go predator all day every day and twice on Sundays.
Today the predator compound did pretty well sidehilling for me on some wet and muddy slate rock using 3d printed inserts. I did notice the rear end sliding out more than I would like a couple of times. Luckily they were more predictable for me than you experienced. There was some water below that was deep enough for it to submarine if it fell in. I was prepared to rescue it if need be. I wore my crocs, but it’s really slick as soon as you step in the water.
To be used for anything resembling actual crawling, the High Trail. For looking the absolute unmatchably coolest, the Willys for sure. For financials, the Willys by an overwhelming margin. It costs $250 less, so you can have a tricked out and loaded down Willys for less than the High Trail RTR. You could even get the trailer.
@@CrawlerCanyon Horizon ruined my Willys experience by using cheap shipping methods with no tracking. I waited 2 weeks and it was damaged. It took another month to get my money back. During all this, it goes on sale, so you see why I’m leaning towards the black edition high Trail. I can lower it and put an SE 1800 in it and climb rocks. After seeing the mirror laying in the backseat when I open the box, it hit me at how quick the novelty of this item will wear off. Then to top it all off I turn on crawler Canyon and bam there it is right in my face.
I think sidehill would improve on something 3D printed, but that it would likely be even worse on the Injoras, as the weakness of the tire shape (for me) is the rounded shoulder, and the Injora inserts would not help that. I think the Swampers have a smidge more forward drive than the Flat Irons, but the Flat Irons benefit from an "across the board consistency." The Flat Iron is kinda Pro-Line's equivalent of the Canyon Trail-- not the absolute best in every category, but just nice and consistent.
These VS. Hunks? Would we all pay a few $$ more if JConcepts produced licensed tires? Green vs. G8 at high/low temps, vs predator at high/low temps...??? This is the way.
The issues with BBs are that they're just too dense. 100g of steel BBs takes up 1/7th the space of 100g of airsoft BBs, so then we need something else to fill that space. Being smaller, they also like to wedge themselves into every nook and cranny in between whatever else is being used to fill up that space.
I see this tire a lot on Instagram, im not sure if I like this design or not (same as Hunks), maybe I will try them who knows when Super Swampers get 5th place on the leaderboard, nothing really important/interesting to say about it
The Swamper look doesn't pull me in for whatever reason (the entire fleet features one set of Hunks) and they have the typical Pro-Line problem of being just-so-close, but leaving us knowing that there are other tires that are more consistent performers for the same or less money. So you buy Swampers because you like them. I just had a Swamper Thought--- I need to act on it before I forget completely.
The wheels are generic Amazon Method 105 clones. I buy whatever is cheapest at the time from any of the Amazon brands like Globact, DKKY, Que-T, etc. These were OGRC: amzn.to/48Dwd6A This set ended up all orange by coincidence-- they're sold as "yellow" with black rings, and I had bought a set of Injora -10 offset deep wheels, which were black with orange rings. I swapped them around and made an all-black set of deeps and a full orange test wheelset. So long story short, I don't think you can buy them all orange, you gotta kit-bash two sets together. RCLIONS does sell rings by themselves amzn.to/3T9hxXj but they actually look reasonably close to gold. The Injora orange & black deeps are no longer a thing, it seems.
Because swampers are one of the most common used real scale good functioning tire, At least up here in washington. Great self cleaning tire. + the sizes you can purchase......
The G8 Swamper is always my go to on the majority of my trucks. I add the SL3D squid inserts and it’s an amazing combination.
I have the 2.9" version of these on my SCX6 Jeep JLU with dual stage foams. I was pleasantly surprised how well they do on the sandstone up here along the riverbank. Completely blew away the stock Axial KM3 tires.
My 4.75" inserts were designed around the Proline TSL SX XL, though mine are Predator compound (Norwegian climate and all that). The set of inserts you have should fit perfectly and do well in the G8 version as well. :)
The swampers is probably most requested because it's one of the most best performing (and popular) tires in the 1:1 world. I have two 1:1 crawlers and they're the best performing I've found so far for the terrain in my state.
I found when I first started messing with the RC version of the proline swampers, I couldn't get side hill performance at all. A few buddies recommended the proline dual stages. I didn't get them for a long time since I was running anti-foams from 3 brothers. Then I went to other 3d printed inserts that were made for the swampers. Still not very good. Finally got some proline dual stages and it was night and day for side hill. Not sure why but they work 😂
Got a link to the foams?
The proline
agree with ktm . most people like these because they are very popular in full scale . def over here in colorado/utah area .
These did a lot better than I expected. I knew they did great on dirt but didn’t expect them to do that great on the rocks with the tread pattern
Thanks for the review, after our emails I considered buyin a set and shipping them the long way to TN through you so we could get this review. Now there is no need! Good to see how these stack up and as always, love the content!
Thank you! I bought this tire because I needed sand and rock tire, it does better than my hyrax for that, but I need to see how they do at crawler canyon!
So interesting that in the full size world the TSL would be preferred over the bogger for side hilling and lateral traction but here it was the other way around
Great test I have these in 2.2 I trawl with it in Colorado works great. Thanks for sharing.
I have these in 2.2 with the stock foams on my bomber and they seem a little flatter , a little less roundness , great test thanks
Baseline out here working 9 to 5. What a way to make a livin’!
This tire in 1/24 by Injora is an absolute beast. In door and out here in AZ. Finally pulled the trigger on these today and I don’t doubt they’ll perform any different. I think a “wider” offset would have helped your side hill. Even if it was 2mm.
You can't "unround" that shoulder. Pretty much every tire with that kind of profile does the same thing. Tires that excel on the side hill either have a very squared shoulder, or have tread blocks that extend down onto the sidewall (not just sidelugs) and seem to maintain stability where other tires fall away.
@@CrawlerCanyon I see exactly what you’re talking about. I will keep an eye out for this when I finally install them. I know this may sound like I’m arguing but I’m not I promise. When I had these in 1.0 from injora I went and bought “tuning disks” from Akers Enginnering. And basically it stiffened up that side wall enough to make its inherent problems with the rounded edges go away, side hilling and grabbing inside edges improved tremendously. No one that I know of makes “tuning disks” for 1/10 yet. I know 3D inserts and Silicone insets are all the rage but I feel like a more simple solution has been sorted out it just hasn’t been scaled up yet. I have plans to try some things out once I get some materials in my hands. What I want to try might actually help the Proline Trenchers as well.
Ultimately I would like to test these out on my own with some video footage and then contact Will at Akers a see if maybe he can put them on his store permanently like his other 1.0 versions.
yep..same here. I luckily found a set of duratrax deep woods. Double bun in them? What would be your choice on insert for a 8lb rig? I even thought possibly Injora sillies. Considering your not a PL lover...Ill buy'em after the testing.
Im pretty late to this party, perhaps because i already own a set....in predator and g8....and 4.3...and swamper iroks... obviously i like them.
I've had the 4.3 swampers for 5 years. And put at least 300 real miles on them. Only ever cleaned with simple green. And they have stayed remarkably sticky over the years.
Originally picked for aesthetic reasons, but became the standard I measured from.
so.. when countering steering and reverse to self right... uh. love it. This is the same tire i got for the utb18.. er 12 or some other number.
Have people come to test their 24th scale tires on your course?
wow, did great. curious if a squared off rear insert would lay flatter. great test.
I'd like to see a video listing the scores of all the name brand tires you've reviewed to see where they all fall out.
The tires have sipping which really help
same as everyone wanting the one iconic Japanese car......the GTR. Alot of hype
Hey my favorite tire. I have like 10...11..no, 13 sets of SS TSL XL's in the G8.
I have the Crawler Innovations single stage fronts, dual stage rear in all but one set...and I'm about to try that one set with the Injora silicone inserts.
I'm kinda scared to see how they perform at the Canyon. LOL. Eeeek!
The Crawler Innovation foams are smaller diameter and allow the tire to 'squish'...which I think really lends to being able to grip and pull over so many obstacles. When the tire is filled with insert or foam I'm uncertain if performance is better than with a 'squish' type insert. They jsut work so well with squish.
I live in a northern land of extreme temps. I concur, predator compound definitely gets too soft on the hottest of days. Even worse though is that I have actually torn through the predator tire tread on my local precambrian rock. All said, spring and fall they pretty awesome so I have not completely dismissed them. There is a certain pleasure I have derived from subjecting them to a certain thrashing.
I should add that your review was indeed thorough. I think you pretty much nailed it though comparing it to a flat iron seems unfair to the tire. The Flat Iron has a beast of a shoulder . Perhaps compare them in the mud pit?
If you tried these on Eskee....being super, duper low CG...which might negate the side wall rolling over while side hilling, I'm seeing confetti and fireworks raining from the skies. LOL.
I use these on all my scale rigs I love them in the terrain I have here in mid wales Uk mud .shale .water, slate ,rocks etc I’ve not found any tyres yet that can outperform them on these mediums .and I’ve tried dozens ,from proline to RC4wd to the cheap Chinese tyres and none have beaten them yet .on my mud bog trucks I use cut rc4wd boggers .
And I Love the look of a Suoer Swamper TSL
First non-junkview tire test since the shock upgrade on baseline? I almost want to see the sidehill again on his old trusty shocks. Thanks for the vid!
Have brand new ones on predator compound ready to go once Beadlocks land here with injora blues and brass rings in front.
The blues I saw on here.
Predator all day every day 1000 times on Sunday lol
But that’s if you just want straight up cling to shit.
Man love watching you work.
So many good tips all day every day 20000 times on Sunday!!!
🍻🤘
Thanks for all your videos. Bubble juice… what is that?
Exactly what it sounds like, the stuff you blow bubbles with. I've been using it as mounting solution for bicycle and RC tires for ages. Out of the same 32oz bottle that cost me 99¢ when my kids were small. Leaves no residue.
@@CrawlerCanyon thank you. I almost asked if that what it was but then felt silly! I will give it a whirl next tyre change.
I’ve been wanting to see this test!
That’s crazy. I literally just got home after trading to get these tires in G8 compound. I recently got them in predator compound, which work great. I’ll have to do some side by side testing when it gets hot out. People in these parts say to go predator all day every day and twice on Sundays.
Hey ma loves your comment so much stole the Sunday thing!!
Subbed you!
Have great day Hollier
@@rcarty419 haha. I didn’t come up with it, but thanks.
Today the predator compound did pretty well sidehilling for me on some wet and muddy slate rock using 3d printed inserts. I did notice the rear end sliding out more than I would like a couple of times. Luckily they were more predictable for me than you experienced. There was some water below that was deep enough for it to submarine if it fell in. I was prepared to rescue it if need be. I wore my crocs, but it’s really slick as soon as you step in the water.
That is a good looking tire.
Could you square up the profile a little with a different insert. I find the jc holds side hill well because of it square profile
are you going to review the cross RC emo tow truck, it looks to be pretty good
I'm curious as to why they opted for 1/8th scale. That fella is BIG.
put the swampers on the 41 MB they are sort of similar to the stock tires,kind of solid in the center with side lugs
Hey Mr. Canyon would you be interested in a IERC chassis kit? We want to send one out to ya
72’ High trail Blazer or Willys jeep?
To be used for anything resembling actual crawling, the High Trail. For looking the absolute unmatchably coolest, the Willys for sure. For financials, the Willys by an overwhelming margin. It costs $250 less, so you can have a tricked out and loaded down Willys for less than the High Trail RTR. You could even get the trailer.
@@CrawlerCanyon Horizon ruined my Willys experience by using cheap shipping methods with no tracking. I waited 2 weeks and it was damaged. It took another month to get my money back. During all this, it goes on sale, so you see why I’m leaning towards the black edition high Trail. I can lower it and put an SE 1800 in it and climb rocks. After seeing the mirror laying in the backseat when I open the box, it hit me at how quick the novelty of this item will wear off. Then to top it all off I turn on crawler Canyon and bam there it is right in my face.
The original super swamper 4.3 was the first set of tires i ever tried out. Still have them and still a super c 1 tire. Can you even get them still??
A lot of the class 2 comp guys use these tires.
Do you think that the side hill would be better with Silica Gel Insert or a different foam? Do you think the flat irons have the same forward drive?
I think sidehill would improve on something 3D printed, but that it would likely be even worse on the Injoras, as the weakness of the tire shape (for me) is the rounded shoulder, and the Injora inserts would not help that. I think the Swampers have a smidge more forward drive than the Flat Irons, but the Flat Irons benefit from an "across the board consistency." The Flat Iron is kinda Pro-Line's equivalent of the Canyon Trail-- not the absolute best in every category, but just nice and consistent.
These VS. Hunks? Would we all pay a few $$ more if JConcepts produced licensed tires? Green vs. G8 at high/low temps, vs predator at high/low temps...??? This is the way.
The hunks performed very well for me but I just didn't like the looks of them. They looked like wish version swampers 😂
I have not seen you try the rc4wd irok 1.9 or 2.2 or 1.7
Bosh. ruclips.net/video/UX2lwE_bqZ0/видео.html
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Have you tried does bb are 1.77 copper balls wheel weight
The issues with BBs are that they're just too dense. 100g of steel BBs takes up 1/7th the space of 100g of airsoft BBs, so then we need something else to fill that space. Being smaller, they also like to wedge themselves into every nook and cranny in between whatever else is being used to fill up that space.
But you are forgetting that these tires are in the 1:1 world in a big way. very common 1:1 tire to see on the trail off road for years.
Hello everbody
How do you make the double bun with the tin tin?
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I see this tire a lot on Instagram, im not sure if I like this design or not (same as Hunks), maybe I will try them who knows when
Super Swampers get 5th place on the leaderboard, nothing really important/interesting to say about it
The Swamper look doesn't pull me in for whatever reason (the entire fleet features one set of Hunks) and they have the typical Pro-Line problem of being just-so-close, but leaving us knowing that there are other tires that are more consistent performers for the same or less money. So you buy Swampers because you like them. I just had a Swamper Thought--- I need to act on it before I forget completely.
Do you have a link to those wheels? Or the brand
The wheels are generic Amazon Method 105 clones. I buy whatever is cheapest at the time from any of the Amazon brands like Globact, DKKY, Que-T, etc. These were OGRC: amzn.to/48Dwd6A This set ended up all orange by coincidence-- they're sold as "yellow" with black rings, and I had bought a set of Injora -10 offset deep wheels, which were black with orange rings. I swapped them around and made an all-black set of deeps and a full orange test wheelset.
So long story short, I don't think you can buy them all orange, you gotta kit-bash two sets together. RCLIONS does sell rings by themselves amzn.to/3T9hxXj but they actually look reasonably close to gold. The Injora orange & black deeps are no longer a thing, it seems.
Tony, Did U vent them??
All tires are run vented, no exceptions.
i have a pair - and they have their place, especially on transitions stuff - and loose stuff - they are good but not wow