I saw Oppenheimer in the theater. It was full of people. When it all went silent at 1:02, I thought someone would be eating chips, drinking cola, talking or whatever. Well, I was very surprised when the entire audience fell into the utter silence for like a minute. Everybody was just amazed by the beautiful shots of the explosion. I'll never forget that cinema experience.
Feynman watched through the windscreen of a truck. This actually happened - he knew the glass would block harmful UV and he was the only one to actually witness the explosion without dark filters, but he was temporarily blinded for some minutes afterwards.
In reality there would have been a seismic wave preceding the actual blast wave. Adding it in discretely as a common thread through some of the cutscenes would have helped tie the whole thing together much better.
@@MetaKnight23for hydrogen or fusion bombs like the Tsar Bomba and Castle Bravo, invented by Edward Teller (guy in 1:25), it can reach 100 million K in the fireball.
Yes it does. Just not for the explosion scene. Well the fireball. It is just so far of. Anything else in this scene is an absolutely blast (😂) to watch.
@@Anna-sd4zl that is the problem. It is surreal or unreal. Watch some original videos of actual nuclear bombs. You don’t see flames like here. Never. It’s just a big ball of plasma millions of degrees hot and not a big tank of ignited gasoline.
@leoc1812 The fact that the Fallout series had a more visually realistic nuke scene than Oppenheimer must've really stung for the people behind Oppenheimer. A great example is the attention to detail for when the nuke seems to grow slower grow the further you are from it. A nuke is less like a bomb, and more like a ball of pure energy that expands outward than pulls everything back inward in a nucleur firestorm.
How are you using these lackluster effects as a point of reference for the real thing lol. That would be like me watching the lion king on RUclips and commenting, "wow Africa is so beautiful, am I right guys?"
When I watched this in theaters, the entire theater was filled. Every single seat had a person sitting in it. But after that countdown, not a single peep was uttered. Not a cough, not a breath, not the shuffle of clothes, absolute silence. Christopher Nolan is the most captivating film maker since my birth in 2000 and I don’t think that’ll change for a very long time.
If you did'nt notice at 1:07 you can see a wooden plank beeing trown away by the explosion which just betrays the real size of the explosion. Thats a shame given the fact that's the real detonation made a Mushroom cloud the size of the mount Everest. Saying that's i'm disappointed with this scene is an understatment. And at 1:31 The explosion is just played backward. Are you serious ? I'm not telling that cgi was absolutely needed but this is not good work right there.
yes imho it was a bit dissapointing. BUT, that was probably the real size of the real first explosion. the bomb was very small compared to the original fat man.. can you imagine being there in hiroshima?? I dread to just think of it.. poor people were instantly burned, woman children.. I do hope we humans will solve our issues with talking because we have the capability to solve it with force easily for decades now..
@@ehudv9276 this is not even remotely close to anything like even the smallest nuke. The shot where it first goes off looks like a propane bottle was exploded lmao.
@@BenjaminsSalgado4120 I've just checked it and you are right, more than 1.5 times than the Hiroshima bomb.. I didn't know that, thank you for correcting me. This is actually crazy to think about.. Also this means that the movie was no way close to reality. a weird decision..
I stand by this. The explosion looked horrible. The split second clips in the opening scene showed the sheer magnitude far better than the final result. This looked like a gas can explosion a hundred meters away rather than a massive nuke miles away. CGI was absolutely needed here. With the same team that made the black hole in interstellar, they could have made a realistic nuke
True. Not even CGI, necessarily. They could've captured the tremendous scale of a nuke better. Anyone's who's seen a footage of a real one feels it is way more overpowering than that.
Sometimes his refusal to use CGI kills him. Like Dunkirk... Even at the beginning he started by explaining that hundreds of thousands of soldiers were waiting at the beach for rescue, and then the entire movie is a very empty beach with what's clearly a couple thousand people. He really should break his rule for a brief moment when it's for the better.
all for the better too, looked incredible and the attention was on the outcome of the nuke rather than the nuke, it was a novelty, but obviously much attention was put into how it looked and how it was shot, but all done very well.@@vok9009
@@vok9009The only other option to accurately portray a nuke is to… actually launch a nuke. Which we NOW decided is unethical, in any situation other than to imminently retaliate against a nuke.
That is surely because of Nolan's fondness towards practical effects. So yeah surely it was a small explosion, or else Nolan wouldn't be actually filming a nuke type explosion 😂
That was the ONLY “blemish” of this film. I love Nolan’s obsession with practical effects but there are cases that CGI would prove much more effective. This was definitely one of them. And I am not saying full CGI but a combination of practical and CGI it would have made this scene soooo much more impactful. Now it just looks like a fuel explosion.
@@gpapa31Christopher Nolan should take some notes from Michael Bay. Yeah, many of Bay’s films aren’t good overall, but the guy sure knows how to blend practical effects and CGI together perfectly.
कालोऽस्मि लोकक्षयकृत्प्रवृद्धो लोकान्समाहर्तुमिह प्रवृत्त: | Kaalosmi lokakshayakrutpravruddho lokaansamaahartumiha pravruttaha I am mighty Time (death), the source of destruction that comes forth to annihilate the worlds. (Bhagwad Geeta: Chapter 11, verse 32)
Well because it was lol. The explosion is very weak since they went full practical effects, BUT you need to understand this was intentional. Nolan knows damn well it looks like a giant gas bomb, that was intended to ensure the story and events that took place were front and center, not the blast itself. I mean seriously, we already knew what true nuclear detonations look like. The disappointment is on the audience, not Nolan. We went into this expecting fancy CG explosion, despite the fact Nolan made it clear for months that this was 100% practical and not intended to be a fancy looking shot. The focus is on Oppenheimer and the events that took place. It's about the people, not the bomb. Besides, would it really have made that much of a difference?..
@@madezra64I think it looks pathetic. You can literally see bits of wood fly off. I’m sure you don’t mean this, but one could infer from your reasoning that he intentionally made it look bad to focus more on the story. I don’t think the intention was for it to look bad. They’ve tried to edit it so it doesn’t look as bad as it does, but you can’t paper over this 😂 It looks awful. Like instead of using real Spitfires in Dunkirk they just hung Airfix models off wires and went “Neeeeoooowww!” Like some sort of bad Thunderbirds episode. “It’s not about the Spitfires, it’s about the story!!” And I know they did use some models in Dunkirk, but it doesn’t look bad. Not like this. I think whatever the focus of the movie is, you have a responsibility to make stuff look realistic, and this fails in that regard. In fact, I think it does detract from the story. Part of it is his inner conflict about making something so terrifying. But all this shows is that he’s overseen the creation of a gasoline bomb. I’d be like “Don’t fret about it Rob, it’s not that bad! Cheer up!”
It's definitely weak, but that's intentional. Nolan knew this going into it. He did not want CGI. He wanted it to be as "real" as possible because the movie itself is supposed to be based as close as possible to the reality of it all. Also, this was a surface detonation. Most movies and pictures are based off of air bursts where the shot detonates a few thousand feet above the surface. Nolan intentionally made the explosion this way so that people would focus on the events that took place. The movie is about OPPENHEIMER, not the bomb itself.
@@madezra64Thats a very dumb excuse, like, if i made a movie based around a dude that experience 9/11 and the end of the movie is him surviving i am suppose to make the planes look like papercrafts? Like, its my intention therefore it doesn’t look bad anymore?
Yeah it's barely anything, I've seen far better nuke scenes, even an old film like Terminator 2 was better, Twin Peaks aswell did an amazing nuke scene
@@CdrChaos a lot of his movies use a lot of cgi, people just only talk about the practical effects. And if it looks worse than cgi then he should just use cgi
This movie isnt about the bomb. But yes i agree it couldve been shown as being of larger magnitude. However, maybe they left it that way so we could think about how bombs these days are hundreds of times more powerful
Eh. I finally saw the film and was pretty underwhelmed, on the whole. Nolan always makes movies I think I'll love, and then he sorta does these very pedestrian versions of what I hoped for. This was... fine. A historical reenactment with nice production values.
@@Ben-pd2bx I love history and I kind of knew this would be a long talking film since it's a biopic but it was right up my alley. I can see how from all his other films how people were expecting something different, but I knew there was only so much action type sequences there could be about his life. Being a history buff tho, this movie felt like it flew by with all the info they were giving.
@@SimpleJackPC I didn't want action. I actually think the one thing that would have really improved the detonation scene would have been not seeing the fireball at all. I just thought Nolan's view of the story kind of missed the mark, which I often think with him. He spends most of the movie focusing on how Oppenheimer was targeted for his links to Communism, which is possibly the least interesting thing about the man's life. I wanted more science, more appreciation for what they accomplished, more humanity, better character development for the supporting characters. There's just a big ice wall with Nolan, I find. He can't ever seem to get across it.
Go watch the real footage of the Trinity test and you'll understand why some of us are extremely disappointed with this explosion. Everything else in this scene was 11/10 though.
ngl, Nolan's obsession with practical effects is commendable in an era where Marvel adds CGI guns to scenes with Fury because they can't decide what gun to use, but this was incredibly underwhelming. This could've been the crowning jewel of what was already the movie of the year, and instead it looks like a tanker exploding from many angles. The scene is masterfully crafted, don't get me wrong, but the scale is clear here, that was not a nuke.
I guess it is commendable. I think it is a little arrogant to not use any CGI beyond what is absolutely necessary. All of this same rhetoric that "no CGI = good" since Dunkirk is so silly to me. You could go Marvel, and CGI/Green screen Every,.Thing. or you can go Nolan and CGI No.Thing. I went to see Dunkirk--& especially after seeing Interstellar-with such high hopes. & you may remember Nolan/the movie got heat because the beaches the soldiers were evacuating from were *so utterly empty.* Moral of the story, I guess, is: Nolan has a problem with scale; only due to his 'noble' aversion to CGI (imo).
Watching this back, this was the smallest most underwhelming bullish excuse for an atomic bomb explosion anyone has ever seen. I mean seriously the actual explosion is beyond miserable.
Most underwhelming scene in a long long time. I really thought the bang would absolutely shock us, I thought the explosion would be incredibly huge. Instead it looked like a gas station explosion in a 80s action flick. What a letdown
I liked the film but I thought the explosion was incredibly underwhelming and frankly disappointing. I understand this is a film about a man but it's also literally about his/their creation the bomb, and I think you are kidding yourself if you went into this film not expecting something fantastic out of the final reveal of the trinity test. Especially when every trailer and interview basically uses the explosion as it's centerpiece or talking point. Nolan built up this explosion for more than half the film, building tensions as to its awesome power and unknown destructive force, etc. He wound me up to expect something amazing out of the final product of their work and when I finally saw the explosion I honestly thought I was being punked. And again, I understand that Nolan wanted to use practical effects and I'm all for practical effects, but he should have known that there's really no way to emulate the sheer power, size and force of an actual nuclear bomb using practical effects. I don't care how many drums of gas you had to ignite, how good your lighting effects are, how much you slow down or reverse the images in the editing room - you will never be able to produce a convincing enough effect. Christopher Nolan delivered BIG in all other aspects (as is his staple) - big personalities and acting, big sound effects, big music, costumes, sets, scenery, etc. I don't think it's out of line to be disappointed by the small scale gas explosion we got when the whole movie is building to that moment. Maybe it's just me but this oversight took me completely out of the movie, it just lost it's credibility for me.
Great scene with emotion and tension, but quite underwhelming visually. I know and understand Nolan doesn't want to put CGI in his films, but, well, that's clearly not a nuclear explosion and doesn't even look "apocalyptic."
I like the symbolism of the silence. A lot of the people who die from nuclear weapons will die from radiation poisoning long after the explosion. The worst part is that you can be doomed and not even realize it. The most horrific effect of nuclear weapons isn't the explosion itself, it's how nightmarishly irradiated everything becomes, and what that radiation does to the human body. Your DNA literally melts and your physical body begins to dissolve.
Lol what are you talking about. 90% of the people who are affected by a nuclear explosion die from the thermal blast, are you sure that the explosion is not the most terrific part?
The movie isn’t about the trinity test, it’s about Oppenheimer himself on the lead up to the trinity test to the aftermath, not the actual bomb itself. I was a bit underwhelmed on the bomb not going to lie but as someone who worked on visual effects it would be very hard to replicate an actual atomic bomb through CGI and make it look realistic as possible. That’s what Nolan was going for.
I legit think this is so mid. You can clearly see that the explosion is small, you can see the trelice of the house the bomb where built in. In real life, in the photo they took picoseconds after the explosion you can see that house were already engolfed in a ball of plasma as hot as the sun's core. But here we get a slow motion shot of 5 barrels of gasoline exploding. When the slow mo guys do a slow motion explosion it looks more menacing than this. The editing too is questionable, the lights flicker strangely and the scale of the whole thing is so small... I think that if Nolan wanted to do only practical, he shouldve honestly just shown a bright light and the reactions of the characters. Like, an uninterrupted shot of Cilliian, than reset and another character, then reset and another character, and so on. Or recreated it in CG, with new perspectives, abstract shots of the quantum reaction, splicing it with the real test footage or something.
This movie has the best pacing I’ve ever seen in a movie. As you got closer to this moment , the pacing kept getting faster and faster. What a way to convey how these people felt getting to this moment
@ko7577so you needed to see thousands of people sizzling to understand the consequences of what was happening? Maybe nuance isn't your Forte and not the "American filmmaker", whatever you meant by that. Seeing the weight Oppenheimer carries is far more impactful than any display of violence could ever be, especially since it could never actually capture the real terror of that moment, no matter who the film maker was. It was over in an instant, a ton of people died horribly. We all understand what a nuclear weapon is and what it does. Not showing it was a choice, not a mistake. And it was the correct one imo.
@ko7577 it sounds like you didn't even watch the movie. The morality of making the bomb was one of the key pillars of the entire film. They literally showed peoples faces melting away Sicilian with simultaneously addressing a crowd of people after they drop the bombs. It sounds like you didn't watch the movie.
“We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, A few people cried, Most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture the Bhagavad Gita; Vishnu is trying to persuade the prince that he should do his duty, and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form, and says, *’Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.’* I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.
Just a massive let down. All they had to do was jush up the original Trinity footage, here it looks like something from a low budget 90s action movie, it just didn't work.
Yeah, its also really cool, because of how far away they were it would take quite a whilr for sound to arrive at where they were so it would be dead silent for a good long few seconds
This scene is a masterpiece of cinema but I do have one critique. I would’ve made it brighter. The atomic bomb is so powerful it would’ve turn night to day in an instant, the sky would’ve gone from dark black to blue real quick.
This scene is beautiful. Nuclear reaction is just a physical phenomenon and it's not politics. Truly simply beautiful. There's a big red circle on the Japanese national flag and it represents the Sun which is basically a big nuclear reactor. And that's beautiful. Oh BTW I'm a Japanese.
honestly i don't like the explosion its just another gasoline explosion. it looses its scale and breaks the immersion of this being the most powerfull bomb created to that date. It was so anticlimatic and nothing poetic about it
Still kinda mad at this. The way it is silent up until the bang is great but the way the explosion actually looked is super underwhelming. Any footage of a real nuke is so much more mind blowing and for this, because Nolan is a poopoohead that refuses to use CGI, is just an extremely normal Gasoline explosion and doesn't demonstrate the sheer scale of a real nuke. He did the same thing in Dunkirk where he made the evacuation of 300.000 people look like the end of small concert instead of a monumental event.
I’m no filmmaker but should’ve just had a bright white screen and used sound to convey the terror, followed by dark silence without theater lights. Anticipation and tension was perfect, not like you would see a blast in real life.
I think the explosion looked bad, but thats really the only negative thing i have to say about the movie, and its such a small thing that doesnt take away from the story or my enjoyment at all, love it
Saw it in theaters. The build up to detonation was so, incredibly, intense. I was on the edge of my seat for what felt like forever. I was literally shaking as the adrenaline was rushing through me. When the bomb finally went off, I remember flinching a little and slowly putting my hands up to my mouth. I actually started crying. Never in my life have I had as intense a reaction to something in film. I still get chills down my spine and feel all of those emotions all over again when I watch it here, but this film... you can't just watch it on your computer or your tv at home. This film needs to be experienced in theaters. A work of art.
I know, right? If you pause the video at that exact timestamp it actually looks like there's a spotlight coming from the left side of the screen. Both the car and jeep are lit up from the complete opposite side. What a total let down.
My heart pounded, and I sat bolt upright. A thick silence loomed in the theater. A film had not had such an effect on me since I'd watched United 93 in class a few years earlier. Just when I'd thought the scene would finish in silence, the sound of the explosion hit us. My mother was so startled, she jumped in her seat and yelped. I know people complain that the SFX isn't accurate to a real life atomic explosion. Fair enough. I get where they're coming from. But the scene absolutely got its point across, and I think the practical effects will age better than CGI. The buildup is the tension that these scientists feel as they wonder if pressing that button will bring about humanity's doom. The clouds of fire rising, the fury of the Universe as it realizes that the humble human has flouted its most sacred laws. The deafening roar, its warning that humans playing with the powers of gods will have deadly consequences.
One of the best movies, no joke. Is is one of the rare scenes we see the explosion first without sound because of the big distance, most another movie makers dont think about.
@easterworshipper730 no you can infact see nuclear explosions, after the flash because if you look at the flasg you will go blind and you cant see anything
When 1:02 happened, everyone in the theater was silent, I was expecting a boom, that caught me of guard I started laughing on how genius Christopher Nolan is.
I think the shot at 1:07 ruins it completely. Like the other stuff is all fine, that shots is just a bizarre choice the undermines the power of the nuke. Just before you see the tower in a wide shot then it turns to just white. Then they show you this tiny explosion with a much closer show of the tower, that slowly widens to the frame, wtf is that?
No,, i'm glad Chris Nolan pushes back on this issue. The use of CGI is becoming too ubiquitous and films are starting to look flat and similar. Nolan and his crew fashioned their own mushroom cloud using practical techniques.
CGI would have completely voided the entire point of the film, and this moment. Imagine building up for an hour and 58 minutes, talking about the atomic world, imagining a vast furnace in outer space, fire and density, gravity, real explosions…. just to then play it safe with CGI. Nope. Nolan and Hoyt shot REAL fire, the stuff of Oppie’s early nightmares, something no amount of CGI could replicate. And it exists on real IMAX 70mm film. It’s literally about as real as it gets.
Real schmeal, this looked lame. It's an atom bomb, the whole reason the film was even shot. And the bomb looked like a cruise missile explosion with some fire added. No shockwave or anything impactful like that. CGI nowadays looks incredible especially if you can spend a big part of your budget making that the only CGI scene. You can't capture the power of an atom bomb if you don't film a real one going off. Very underwhelming.
@@ckboy221 Hahha I thought it was a failed test. Amateur videos shot from a real atomb bomb are all over youtube and make much more impact, I cant believe this tbh. Come on guys, this wasnt impressive.
Great movie, but that explosion was so damn underwhelming. Who thought it was a good idea to make it a gasoline explosion?? It looks like something out of Die Hard...
I'm feels so sorry for the people who watch it on cinema, waiting to experience the climax of the movie, expecting majestic very realistic atomic explosion, and what the saw was only gasoline explosion, underwhelming even by Michael bay standard
I saw Oppenheimer in the theater. It was full of people. When it all went silent at 1:02, I thought someone would be eating chips, drinking cola, talking or whatever. Well, I was very surprised when the entire audience fell into the utter silence for like a minute. Everybody was just amazed by the beautiful shots of the explosion. I'll never forget that cinema experience.
Well people also probably didn’t want to be rude and make eating noises while it was silent 😂
The real credit goes to the buildup before that. Truly captivating
@@captprice0079 Thats why it won Best Picture.
The fact that people eat in a movie theatre is ridiculous.
@@evancodsworth2bro what
Feynman watched through the windscreen of a truck. This actually happened - he knew the glass would block harmful UV and he was the only one to actually witness the explosion without dark filters, but he was temporarily blinded for some minutes afterwards.
That is such a quintessentially Feynman thing to do....
What stops the glass?
@@nattttzip his skin XD
There wasn’t an actual bomb detonated, do some research bro bro
@@bruhmoment2306 bro bro
The silence is deafening.
Me with Tinnitus in My ears:
@@R4in46eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
When the violelence is cause of silence who are we mistaking😢
In reality there would have been a seismic wave preceding the actual blast wave. Adding it in discretely as a common thread through some of the cutscenes would have helped tie the whole thing together much better.
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"The power of the sun, in the palm of my hands."-Doctor Octopus
0:47 same goggles too
Whats scary is that the bombs explosion fireball can reach temperatures higher than the sun itself.
Wrong reference, Dr. Octopus said this because he had a fusion reaction, similar to the sun.
@@TheEvilSpiritOfBabel Only higher then the Surface Temperature of the sun. The core of the sun is around 15 milion degree Celsius.
@@MetaKnight23for hydrogen or fusion bombs like the Tsar Bomba and Castle Bravo, invented by Edward Teller (guy in 1:25), it can reach 100 million K in the fireball.
So glad it won Best Picture. Deserved every award
Yes it does. Just not for the explosion scene. Well the fireball. It is just so far of. Anything else in this scene is an absolutely blast (😂) to watch.
Explosion scene was a dumb... looked like a parody
@@DKofDAH nah it was awesome and felt surreal.
@@Anna-sd4zl that is the problem. It is surreal or unreal. Watch some original videos of actual nuclear bombs. You don’t see flames like here. Never. It’s just a big ball of plasma millions of degrees hot and not a big tank of ignited gasoline.
Meh. It should have gone to Poor Things.
*bomb doesn’t explode*
Josh: MEGAN!!!
😂😂😂😂
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I remember seeing this and thinking "Wait a minute, that's Josh Peck!"
sent Teller's a** to the shot tower to check out why. and make sure he has his goggles.
The bomb. ITS SPHERICAL!!!
The silence is actually really disturbing hearing nothing but breathing and a distant hum. It shows how messed up these bombs really are
It violates nature and our instincts have yet to cope
Meanwhile indiana jones in a fridge...
I was about to say the same thing
ahahhahahahahaha nailed it
That’s not for another decade
It would not working
@@borntoclimb7116 Yeah he would’ve died in so many different ways.
And this is only a fraction of the nuclear power we have to day. Absolutely frightening.
The movie also showed a fraction of the real atomic power then, to be fair.
@leoc1812 The fact that the Fallout series had a more visually realistic nuke scene than Oppenheimer must've really stung for the people behind Oppenheimer. A great example is the attention to detail for when the nuke seems to grow slower grow the further you are from it. A nuke is less like a bomb, and more like a ball of pure energy that expands outward than pulls everything back inward in a nucleur firestorm.
How are you using these lackluster effects as a point of reference for the real thing lol. That would be like me watching the lion king on RUclips and commenting, "wow Africa is so beautiful, am I right guys?"
Yup. I doubt a lot of people are aware of the Megaton yields of today in those silos. 😮
Yes. A gasoline fire is only a fraction of what a nuclear bomb does.
Josh: Drake…where’s the detonator button?
Drake" what do you mean I drew it right there, with a magic marker"
@@doncarlo4576You were supposed to cut it out with the power saw
I will
So go get the power saw
@@christopherhargrove5667 I see the problem….
I image this scene would be so much cooler if I wasn’t blocking my ears in anticipation of a super loud sound the whole time
Why would it? Light travels faster than sound, you'd see the light long before the noise of the blast.
@@LisaAnn777 not blaming the movie at all, i should've read up about it before it was my bad. awesome film
@@Paccyd33Ahhhhhhh meeeee tooooooooo!!!!!
I was definitely NOT expecting the BANG lmao
You didn’t do that
my heart was racing in the theatre
Same. Even though we knew it would go off.
Pfp checks out
No it wasn't
When I watched this in theaters, the entire theater was filled. Every single seat had a person sitting in it. But after that countdown, not a single peep was uttered. Not a cough, not a breath, not the shuffle of clothes, absolute silence. Christopher Nolan is the most captivating film maker since my birth in 2000 and I don’t think that’ll change for a very long time.
If you did'nt notice at 1:07 you can see a wooden plank beeing trown away by the explosion which just betrays the real size of the explosion. Thats a shame given the fact that's the real detonation made a Mushroom cloud the size of the mount Everest. Saying that's i'm disappointed with this scene is an understatment.
And at 1:31 The explosion is just played backward. Are you serious ? I'm not telling that cgi was absolutely needed but this is not good work right there.
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yes imho it was a bit dissapointing. BUT, that was probably the real size of the real first explosion. the bomb was very small compared to the original fat man..
can you imagine being there in hiroshima?? I dread to just think of it.. poor people were instantly burned, woman children.. I do hope we humans will solve our issues with talking because we have the capability to solve it with force easily for decades now..
@@ehudv9276 this is not even remotely close to anything like even the smallest nuke. The shot where it first goes off looks like a propane bottle was exploded lmao.
@@ehudv9276la prueba de Trinity fue más grande que la bomba de Hiroshima
@@BenjaminsSalgado4120
I've just checked it and you are right, more than 1.5 times than the Hiroshima bomb..
I didn't know that, thank you for correcting me. This is actually crazy to think about..
Also this means that the movie was no way close to reality. a weird decision..
I stand by this. The explosion looked horrible. The split second clips in the opening scene showed the sheer magnitude far better than the final result. This looked like a gas can explosion a hundred meters away rather than a massive nuke miles away. CGI was absolutely needed here. With the same team that made the black hole in interstellar, they could have made a realistic nuke
I love nolan and i hate to say that you are right, just a little bit of cgi could have made a very huge difference in proportions and perception.
Wrong
True. Not even CGI, necessarily. They could've captured the tremendous scale of a nuke better. Anyone's who's seen a footage of a real one feels it is way more overpowering than that.
100% agreed
Sometimes his refusal to use CGI kills him. Like Dunkirk... Even at the beginning he started by explaining that hundreds of thousands of soldiers were waiting at the beach for rescue, and then the entire movie is a very empty beach with what's clearly a couple thousand people. He really should break his rule for a brief moment when it's for the better.
all for practical effects, but they could have used some cgi to make the explosion look like an actual nuke
Christopher Nolan said he didn’t wanna use cgi
all for the better too, looked incredible and the attention was on the outcome of the nuke rather than the nuke, it was a novelty, but obviously much attention was put into how it looked and how it was shot, but all done very well.@@vok9009
agreed, I was super disappointed when I saw the explosion
@@vok9009The only other option to accurately portray a nuke is to… actually launch a nuke. Which we NOW decided is unethical, in any situation other than to imminently retaliate against a nuke.
@@sv9141tbf, it resembled the real explosion for like a second, but look too skinny of a fireball, but the shots in reverse weren’t bad
The explosion doesn't feel like a nuke
That is surely because of Nolan's fondness towards practical effects. So yeah surely it was a small explosion, or else Nolan wouldn't be actually filming a nuke type explosion 😂
That was the ONLY “blemish” of this film. I love Nolan’s obsession with practical effects but there are cases that CGI would prove much more effective. This was definitely one of them. And I am not saying full CGI but a combination of practical and CGI it would have made this scene soooo much more impactful. Now it just looks like a fuel explosion.
@@gpapa31the only blemish in the film was the ultimate scene the entire movie was leading up to. Got it
@@gpapa31Christopher Nolan should take some notes from Michael Bay. Yeah, many of Bay’s films aren’t good overall, but the guy sure knows how to blend practical effects and CGI together perfectly.
@@Jay-og4ybthe film is not about the visual of the explosion it is everything that surrounds the bomb’s creation
Man that looked nothing like the world ending nuke just a 10kg bomb man they should of used CGI
Someone on RUclips edited in archival footage of the actual trinity test and it fits perfect, they should’ve used that
The longest and most terrifying 45 seconds of my life.
Hahahahaha
“Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds”
Yeah something he didn't say until years later while being interviewed. Just after the test he said "well that worked"
कालोऽस्मि लोकक्षयकृत्प्रवृद्धो लोकान्समाहर्तुमिह प्रवृत्त: |
Kaalosmi lokakshayakrutpravruddho lokaansamaahartumiha pravruttaha
I am mighty Time (death), the source of destruction that comes forth to annihilate the worlds.
(Bhagwad Geeta: Chapter 11, verse 32)
Maybe hearing aids would have helped...?
Oh look, this quote again. How original.
I can't believe they used that. It looks just like a gasoline fire.
seriously! I was very disappointed
Well because it was lol. The explosion is very weak since they went full practical effects, BUT you need to understand this was intentional. Nolan knows damn well it looks like a giant gas bomb, that was intended to ensure the story and events that took place were front and center, not the blast itself. I mean seriously, we already knew what true nuclear detonations look like. The disappointment is on the audience, not Nolan. We went into this expecting fancy CG explosion, despite the fact Nolan made it clear for months that this was 100% practical and not intended to be a fancy looking shot. The focus is on Oppenheimer and the events that took place. It's about the people, not the bomb.
Besides, would it really have made that much of a difference?..
@@madezra64but... but... me like kaboom :c
@@NirvaExe lol I feel ya, dude. I was bummed out too still
@@madezra64I think it looks pathetic. You can literally see bits of wood fly off. I’m sure you don’t mean this, but one could infer from your reasoning that he intentionally made it look bad to focus more on the story. I don’t think the intention was for it to look bad. They’ve tried to edit it so it doesn’t look as bad as it does, but you can’t paper over this 😂 It looks awful. Like instead of using real Spitfires in Dunkirk they just hung Airfix models off wires and went “Neeeeoooowww!” Like some sort of bad Thunderbirds episode.
“It’s not about the Spitfires, it’s about the story!!”
And I know they did use some models in Dunkirk, but it doesn’t look bad. Not like this. I think whatever the focus of the movie is, you have a responsibility to make stuff look realistic, and this fails in that regard.
In fact, I think it does detract from the story. Part of it is his inner conflict about making something so terrifying. But all this shows is that he’s overseen the creation of a gasoline bomb. I’d be like “Don’t fret about it Rob, it’s not that bad! Cheer up!”
Worst nuke detonation in the history of cinema?
It's definitely weak, but that's intentional. Nolan knew this going into it. He did not want CGI. He wanted it to be as "real" as possible because the movie itself is supposed to be based as close as possible to the reality of it all. Also, this was a surface detonation. Most movies and pictures are based off of air bursts where the shot detonates a few thousand feet above the surface. Nolan intentionally made the explosion this way so that people would focus on the events that took place. The movie is about OPPENHEIMER, not the bomb itself.
Have you see the real one ? 😂
@@madezra64Thats a very dumb excuse, like, if i made a movie based around a dude that experience 9/11 and the end of the movie is him surviving i am suppose to make the planes look like papercrafts? Like, its my intention therefore it doesn’t look bad anymore?
Huh... that explosion looks... weird... it looks so small and more like a gasoline tank exploded instead of a nucleair bomb...
Yeah it's barely anything, I've seen far better nuke scenes, even an old film like Terminator 2 was better, Twin Peaks aswell did an amazing nuke scene
Because this was only a TEST. Not one meant to flatten a city.
@CdrChaos doesnt matter. The test didnt look like this.
@ Nolan doesn’t like CGI. That’s why this scene looks so small.
@@CdrChaos a lot of his movies use a lot of cgi, people just only talk about the practical effects. And if it looks worse than cgi then he should just use cgi
That did NOT look like an atomic bomb AT ALL
Oppenheimer expressed that he saw it as just a bomb at the time. Do you have to put this into words to understand?
@@user-yp5du2tz6k You have to put this into captivating cinema to understand. Nolan did none of that in this pathetic excuse of an "explosion"
@@domerust6899 An oppenheimer hater lmao, poor thing.
The only flaw with the scene is the initial explosion, looks like a plastic explosives explosion when it should have been nuclear fireball...
They should have hired you instead of the Experts.
Lol we're they supposed to detonate an actual nuke
@@Kailuh727 ever heard of cgi?
This movie isnt about the bomb. But yes i agree it couldve been shown as being of larger magnitude. However, maybe they left it that way so we could think about how bombs these days are hundreds of times more powerful
Also the "Nixie" countdown clock display was not realistic.
Not too worried about the practical effects of the bomb, this scene and scenes before with the buildup of the test are BEYOND Oscar worthy
Eh. I finally saw the film and was pretty underwhelmed, on the whole. Nolan always makes movies I think I'll love, and then he sorta does these very pedestrian versions of what I hoped for. This was... fine. A historical reenactment with nice production values.
No wonder the soundtrack won, the music builds tension perfectly
@@Ben-pd2bx I love history and I kind of knew this would be a long talking film since it's a biopic but it was right up my alley. I can see how from all his other films how people were expecting something different, but I knew there was only so much action type sequences there could be about his life. Being a history buff tho, this movie felt like it flew by with all the info they were giving.
@@SimpleJackPC I didn't want action. I actually think the one thing that would have really improved the detonation scene would have been not seeing the fireball at all. I just thought Nolan's view of the story kind of missed the mark, which I often think with him. He spends most of the movie focusing on how Oppenheimer was targeted for his links to Communism, which is possibly the least interesting thing about the man's life. I wanted more science, more appreciation for what they accomplished, more humanity, better character development for the supporting characters. There's just a big ice wall with Nolan, I find. He can't ever seem to get across it.
Well, the parts you can hear over the music
Go watch the real footage of the Trinity test and you'll understand why some of us are extremely disappointed with this explosion. Everything else in this scene was 11/10 though.
ngl, Nolan's obsession with practical effects is commendable in an era where Marvel adds CGI guns to scenes with Fury because they can't decide what gun to use, but this was incredibly underwhelming.
This could've been the crowning jewel of what was already the movie of the year, and instead it looks like a tanker exploding from many angles.
The scene is masterfully crafted, don't get me wrong, but the scale is clear here, that was not a nuke.
Exactly!
I guess it is commendable.
I think it is a little arrogant to not use any CGI beyond what is absolutely necessary. All of this same rhetoric that "no CGI = good" since Dunkirk is so silly to me. You could go Marvel, and CGI/Green screen Every,.Thing. or you can go Nolan and CGI No.Thing.
I went to see Dunkirk--& especially after seeing Interstellar-with such high hopes. & you may remember Nolan/the movie got heat because the beaches the soldiers were evacuating from were *so utterly empty.*
Moral of the story, I guess, is: Nolan has a problem with scale; only due to his 'noble' aversion to CGI (imo).
It's such an honor to say I saw this opening night on a 70mm IMAX screen. Something I'll definitely always cherish as a cinephile.
When I saw this scene, I was like “Yep this is winning Best Picture at the Oscars next year!”
because you knew at some level that if it didn't win, Rufus the demon core was going to respond to that.
And it did!
I was baffled by this scene. It looks like they blew up a kids cubby house with a couple of cans of gasoline.
@ko7577 And you seemed to care enough to comment on my other comment then delete it 🤷♂
It should have gone to Poor Things, though.
ehhh, that explosion looks 10 meters tall
I was disappointed with the explosion. It felt anticlimactic, especially since it was the most anticipated scene of the movie.
Cause it was very very far away from them.
@@everyknow7156 are u high? 🤨
@@adrian333dev yes
To be fair it is from Oppenheimer’s perspective, which he was like 6/10 miles away which people forget
Watching this back, this was the smallest most underwhelming bullish excuse for an atomic bomb explosion anyone has ever seen. I mean seriously the actual explosion is beyond miserable.
Never felt so anxious in a movie scene. Seeing this in imax was special behind words.
Thank you Nolan!
Most underwhelming scene in a long long time. I really thought the bang would absolutely shock us, I thought the explosion would be incredibly huge. Instead it looked like a gas station explosion in a 80s action flick. What a letdown
Agreed
I liked the film but I thought the explosion was incredibly underwhelming and frankly disappointing. I understand this is a film about a man but it's also literally about his/their creation the bomb, and I think you are kidding yourself if you went into this film not expecting something fantastic out of the final reveal of the trinity test. Especially when every trailer and interview basically uses the explosion as it's centerpiece or talking point. Nolan built up this explosion for more than half the film, building tensions as to its awesome power and unknown destructive force, etc. He wound me up to expect something amazing out of the final product of their work and when I finally saw the explosion I honestly thought I was being punked. And again, I understand that Nolan wanted to use practical effects and I'm all for practical effects, but he should have known that there's really no way to emulate the sheer power, size and force of an actual nuclear bomb using practical effects. I don't care how many drums of gas you had to ignite, how good your lighting effects are, how much you slow down or reverse the images in the editing room - you will never be able to produce a convincing enough effect. Christopher Nolan delivered BIG in all other aspects (as is his staple) - big personalities and acting, big sound effects, big music, costumes, sets, scenery, etc. I don't think it's out of line to be disappointed by the small scale gas explosion we got when the whole movie is building to that moment. Maybe it's just me but this oversight took me completely out of the movie, it just lost it's credibility for me.
Great scene with emotion and tension, but quite underwhelming visually. I know and understand Nolan doesn't want to put CGI in his films, but, well, that's clearly not a nuclear explosion and doesn't even look "apocalyptic."
I like the symbolism of the silence. A lot of the people who die from nuclear weapons will die from radiation poisoning long after the explosion. The worst part is that you can be doomed and not even realize it. The most horrific effect of nuclear weapons isn't the explosion itself, it's how nightmarishly irradiated everything becomes, and what that radiation does to the human body. Your DNA literally melts and your physical body begins to dissolve.
Lol what are you talking about. 90% of the people who are affected by a nuclear explosion die from the thermal blast, are you sure that the explosion is not the most terrific part?
I can't believe people are saying this scene was amazing. That was a slap in the face to the real team behind the manhattan project.
Same here.I am a huge fan of Chris Nolan but this is the worst movie i have ever seen on such topic. Completely underwhelmed.
@@quadaerospacespacecat8061the film is not about the Manhattan project specifically. It is first and foremost a biopic on Oppenheimer’s life.
were you on the real team?
It was a terrible film in general. So boring
The movie isn’t about the trinity test, it’s about Oppenheimer himself on the lead up to the trinity test to the aftermath, not the actual bomb itself. I was a bit underwhelmed on the bomb not going to lie but as someone who worked on visual effects it would be very hard to replicate an actual atomic bomb through CGI and make it look realistic as possible. That’s what Nolan was going for.
I legit think this is so mid. You can clearly see that the explosion is small, you can see the trelice of the house the bomb where built in. In real life, in the photo they took picoseconds after the explosion you can see that house were already engolfed in a ball of plasma as hot as the sun's core. But here we get a slow motion shot of 5 barrels of gasoline exploding. When the slow mo guys do a slow motion explosion it looks more menacing than this. The editing too is questionable, the lights flicker strangely and the scale of the whole thing is so small... I think that if Nolan wanted to do only practical, he shouldve honestly just shown a bright light and the reactions of the characters. Like, an uninterrupted shot of Cilliian, than reset and another character, then reset and another character, and so on. Or recreated it in CG, with new perspectives, abstract shots of the quantum reaction, splicing it with the real test footage or something.
That was a disapointing explosion 😂
This movie has the best pacing I’ve ever seen in a movie. As you got closer to this moment , the pacing kept getting faster and faster. What a way to convey how these people felt getting to this moment
Am in the only one not amazed by the explosion?
Why?
@ko7577so you needed to see thousands of people sizzling to understand the consequences of what was happening? Maybe nuance isn't your Forte and not the "American filmmaker", whatever you meant by that.
Seeing the weight Oppenheimer carries is far more impactful than any display of violence could ever be, especially since it could never actually capture the real terror of that moment, no matter who the film maker was. It was over in an instant, a ton of people died horribly. We all understand what a nuclear weapon is and what it does. Not showing it was a choice, not a mistake. And it was the correct one imo.
After seeing this and their faces, just remember this, i will never forget what they did. That's why i hate these 👿 (the real ones) for what they did.
@ko7577 it sounds like you didn't even watch the movie. The morality of making the bomb was one of the key pillars of the entire film. They literally showed peoples faces melting away Sicilian with simultaneously addressing a crowd of people after they drop the bombs. It sounds like you didn't watch the movie.
@ko7577because it wasn’t about that 💀 get over yourself it was Oppenheimer and his PERSONAL point of view and strauss’
"Mankind was so obsessed with whether or not they could they never stopped to ask whether they should" - Ian Malcom.
“We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, A few people cried, Most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture the Bhagavad Gita; Vishnu is trying to persuade the prince that he should do his duty, and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form, and says, *’Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.’* I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.
Just a massive let down. All they had to do was jush up the original Trinity footage, here it looks like something from a low budget 90s action movie, it just didn't work.
A universal experience we all had watching this was... "wait what? What happened to the sound?" And I love it
Yeah, its also really cool, because of how far away they were it would take quite a whilr for sound to arrive at where they were so it would be dead silent for a good long few seconds
This scene is a masterpiece of cinema but I do have one critique. I would’ve made it brighter. The atomic bomb is so powerful it would’ve turn night to day in an instant, the sky would’ve gone from dark black to blue real quick.
Love the way the flash goes from a bright blinding white/bluish flash, to slowly fading to a more bright yellow in the whole process
this scene had me clenching my cheeks and curling my toes
This scene is beautiful. Nuclear reaction is just a physical phenomenon and it's not politics. Truly simply beautiful.
There's a big red circle on the Japanese national flag and it represents the Sun which is basically a big nuclear reactor. And that's beautiful.
Oh BTW I'm a Japanese.
honestly i don't like the explosion its just another gasoline explosion. it looses its scale and breaks the immersion of this being the most powerfull bomb created to that date. It was so anticlimatic and nothing poetic about it
Is this how it actually looks in the movie? This looks barely 100 feet high!
Imagine being the guy who got to countdown which potentially could’ve been the end of the world…
I watched this on Blu-ray rather than in a theater but my mind was still blown from watching it
this is the moment Oppenheimer became death, the destroyer of worlds.
Whatever but this doesn't looks like a nuke explosion !...Should have used real footages
The use of silence here is absolutely blood-freezing.
Still kinda mad at this.
The way it is silent up until the bang is great but the way the explosion actually looked is super underwhelming. Any footage of a real nuke is so much more mind blowing and for this, because Nolan is a poopoohead that refuses to use CGI, is just an extremely normal Gasoline explosion and doesn't demonstrate the sheer scale of a real nuke.
He did the same thing in Dunkirk where he made the evacuation of 300.000 people look like the end of small concert instead of a monumental event.
The Tension leading up to this scene in theatres was incredible
They could have used the real footage of the trinity test would have been better
No.
The adrenaline in this scene was high 💥💥🔥🔥
I’m no filmmaker but should’ve just had a bright white screen and used sound to convey the terror, followed by dark silence without theater lights. Anticipation and tension was perfect, not like you would see a blast in real life.
Moms opening the window in the morning for no reason: 1:03
That shot at 1:40 apparently didn’t count for some people as a nuclear explosion
What the zoomed in wall of fire weve seen in movies since the 80's? Yeah, it doesnt.
I think the explosion looked bad, but thats really the only negative thing i have to say about the movie, and its such a small thing that doesnt take away from the story or my enjoyment at all, love it
I don't know why, but this scene made me tear up.
Really liking the direction this is heading! Sick job lads 😍
you guys cut the best part wtf
Saw it in theaters. The build up to detonation was so, incredibly, intense. I was on the edge of my seat for what felt like forever. I was literally shaking as the adrenaline was rushing through me. When the bomb finally went off, I remember flinching a little and slowly putting my hands up to my mouth. I actually started crying. Never in my life have I had as intense a reaction to something in film. I still get chills down my spine and feel all of those emotions all over again when I watch it here, but this film... you can't just watch it on your computer or your tv at home. This film needs to be experienced in theaters. A work of art.
This scene gave me chills. Actual chills.
1:11 why is the light coming from a different source
They are facing backwards
I know, right? If you pause the video at that exact timestamp it actually looks like there's a spotlight coming from the left side of the screen. Both the car and jeep are lit up from the complete opposite side. What a total let down.
You can thank your local CBS news station for this clip of the popular movie
My heart pounded, and I sat bolt upright. A thick silence loomed in the theater. A film had not had such an effect on me since I'd watched United 93 in class a few years earlier. Just when I'd thought the scene would finish in silence, the sound of the explosion hit us. My mother was so startled, she jumped in her seat and yelped.
I know people complain that the SFX isn't accurate to a real life atomic explosion. Fair enough. I get where they're coming from. But the scene absolutely got its point across, and I think the practical effects will age better than CGI. The buildup is the tension that these scientists feel as they wonder if pressing that button will bring about humanity's doom. The clouds of fire rising, the fury of the Universe as it realizes that the humble human has flouted its most sacred laws. The deafening roar, its warning that humans playing with the powers of gods will have deadly consequences.
I remember watching this in theaters. Complete silence. Very suspenseful
One of the best movies, no joke.
Is is one of the rare scenes we see the explosion first without sound because of the big distance, most another movie makers dont think about.
what a moment! music scene slients absolutly masterpiece !
"I'm become death" just one line to describe the whole scenario
The music in this scene is beyond impressive.
1:06 That looks nothing like the actual explosion
The actual explotion cannot be seeing. Is like a divine Power.
@easterworshipper730 no you can infact see nuclear explosions, after the flash because if you look at the flasg you will go blind and you cant see anything
When 1:02 happened, everyone in the theater was silent, I was expecting a boom, that caught me of guard I started laughing on how genius Christopher Nolan is.
Simply Cinematic Representation of *Light Travel Faster Than Sound* 💥⚡🔥
This was mesmerising to watch in IMAX. The deafening silence of the explosion followed by the gargantuan sound of the explosion. Simply amazing.
I think the shot at 1:07 ruins it completely.
Like the other stuff is all fine, that shots is just a bizarre choice the undermines the power of the nuke.
Just before you see the tower in a wide shot then it turns to just white.
Then they show you this tiny explosion with a much closer show of the tower, that slowly widens to the frame, wtf is that?
このシーンは涙が止まらなかったです。
広島や長崎のことを思い出して
本当に胸が痛みました。
映画も監督も素晴らしかったですが、映画館からの帰り道は
子どもたちの未来と今の現状について考え
足取りが重くなりました。
🫂❤🌏
I'm sorry what happened to your people. It was not right and can never be justified nor forgiven.
@@jimmy_x557I assume you’d say the same to the Chinese and Koreans murdered by the Japanese right?
True but idk man. Obviously innocents dont deserve to get involved but all im saying is the japanese did much worse
@@chrisliu6388So we can say American did worse??
Don’t say that.
I think it was very meaningful for Nolan to film in New Mexico because he's a big fan of The Man Who Fell To Earth, which takes place in New Mexico.
Bad choice to avoid cgi
No,, i'm glad Chris Nolan pushes back on this issue. The use of CGI is becoming too ubiquitous and films are starting to look flat and similar. Nolan and his crew fashioned their own mushroom cloud using practical techniques.
CGI would have completely voided the entire point of the film, and this moment. Imagine building up for an hour and 58 minutes, talking about the atomic world, imagining a vast furnace in outer space, fire and density, gravity, real explosions…. just to then play it safe with CGI. Nope. Nolan and Hoyt shot REAL fire, the stuff of Oppie’s early nightmares, something no amount of CGI could replicate. And it exists on real IMAX 70mm film. It’s literally about as real as it gets.
Real schmeal, this looked lame. It's an atom bomb, the whole reason the film was even shot. And the bomb looked like a cruise missile explosion with some fire added. No shockwave or anything impactful like that. CGI nowadays looks incredible especially if you can spend a big part of your budget making that the only CGI scene. You can't capture the power of an atom bomb if you don't film a real one going off. Very underwhelming.
@@ckboy221 Hahha I thought it was a failed test. Amateur videos shot from a real atomb bomb are all over youtube and make much more impact, I cant believe this tbh. Come on guys, this wasnt impressive.
@@cherylhulting1301I was expecting a nuclear explosion, and as well made as the scene was a big pile of tnt just isn’t the same thing
Seeing Josh Peck in glorious IMAX is something I never thought would happen...
“Oh it’s beautiful”
-Director Krennic
Great movie, but that explosion was so damn underwhelming. Who thought it was a good idea to make it a gasoline explosion?? It looks like something out of Die Hard...
One of the most amazing thing humanity has ever produced
1:22 Hughie?? 🤔 Guess we shouldn't ask what he did during WW2
The video of dude farting when the countdown finishes at the iMax forever has me dead
"and now I've become death, destroyer of worlds"
The scilence between the music stops and the sound wave came is so scarry
I'm feels so sorry for the people who watch it on cinema, waiting to experience the climax of the movie, expecting majestic very realistic atomic explosion, and what the saw was only gasoline explosion, underwhelming even by Michael bay standard
I’ll never forget the imax experience and the way how my heart was pounding
Why would you cut the BANG ?!
Oppenheimer was looking down just like everybody else, next to his brother Frank.
The sound design is so amazing I felt like I was there let's just say that was the most stressed I've been in years.😂
And now I have become death. The destroyer of worlds.
Adverd teller taking notes for his hydrogen bomb