Now i dont wanna explode roblox innovation lab games- Like im not tryna be mean it just now makes me realise if this was real life and how much damage i would of caused. Im terrified about those games it just seems real and seeing explosions in real life makes me feel terrible about myself-
"Because it's cheaper" You didn't say shit like that in the Soviet Union unless you wanted to disappear. The fact that this man said that to a group of Soviet decision-makers shows how dire things were.
he's already in death's door cuz he was the lead scientist to oversee the containment operation of the reactor 4. He was exposed with so much radiation that pretty much slashed his life in half.
Thanks to his vastly shortened lifespan from being in proximity to the nuclear disaster he helped handle, he is completely out of f$#@s to give in regards to being Unpersoned.
Actually this scene is fiction. In reality Legasov didn't actually attend the trial. You can google it yourself if you want to. Still an incredible scene and a show though
This actor did a tremendous job in this entire series, every sentence spoken was with conviction, he showed fear in scenes he needed too, this guy is underrated
if you want check out the first season of the series "The Terror" he plays the main character too and he is really good in that as well, i saw him there and it was the main reason i decided to give Chernobyl also a go
@@_etg Yes but its also expensive. Hence the "Its cheaper" line. Corporations, greed, and government will almost 90 percent of the time resort to something that is cheaper rather than something more efficient but costly. That's how the world works.
To their credit. digging the tunnel underneath and placing a heat exchanger under the concrete may have saved humanity; otherwise the molten fuel would have burned through said concrete and detonate with the ground water. The whole of Europe would have been doomed, and many other countries.
@@amramjose Digging the tunnel was useless - the melt solidified well before melting through the concrete foundations. And in the event of corium contact with groundwater, no insane detonation would occur - the notion that it would is not scientific and it was not considered by the scientists who worked on this disaster. The whole HBO show is riddled with inaccuracies because its source is a popular sensationalist book on Chernobyl, not actual documented facts. As much as the show has realistic scenography and the general feel of SSSR, it's just painfully incorrect in so many important things.
Rigel communism, capitalism, globalism, corporatism, fascism, dictatorship, monarchy, and totalitarian... they all have one thing in common. They like to prove the one in charge is right
Just for the record: Legasov was a very active member of the Communist Party. Yes, he was much more scientist than politician, but he definitely belonged to the Nomenklatura.
Invictus agreed. The series was absolutely amazing though. I literally could not stop watching it. Of course Hollywood had to put their twist on it but still my main point is that this was a true event. But the only thing that made me laugh was the biggest flaw. They used British actors with British accents hahahahahaha.
@@freakerhunter8857 The creators addressed this, I forgot the statement exactly but they said something like - at the end they felt as if they made the actors take on a fake eastern European accent, that would be more distracting/comedic than just having them speak in their native accent. Its also why you don't hear any American accents in the show.
@@freakerhunter8857 absolutely disagree. the decision in an English language show to use accents that make sense to English speaking viewers is the best decision they could have made. Accents communicate just as much about a character as dialogue, so having fake, Russian, English-speaking accents makes no sense, unless you're trying to differentiate a character by their Russian-ness (they aren't.) Using accents that English speakers are familiar with lets you add character to your characters that otherwise would not be there. Akimov is soft-spoken but firm. Dyatlov speaks as if he knows authoritatively what he is talking about. Legasov carries the air of a professor; somebody who actually knows what he's talking about.
@@jamesshore3191 Moral of the story: when people protect their ideology and ignore the real world, eventually there will be a HARD collision with reality.
I think the funniest part about the Chernobyl disaster is that the other 3 units were still in operation. Everyone in those must've looked out the windows and been like "Oh those idiots in #4 are at it again..."
Apparently the leader of 4 tried to set the power generation to 200mw, and took out the control rods, which caused the cap to be launched thru the roof, and boiled all the steam (which caused the lif to pop) and it then exploded AGAIN
No but seriously... The other 3 units were in operation for years after that. Hell, they were in operation DURING the post-explosion cleaning operation. I want to know how they were operated. What was done to keep the workers there safe? How did they got in and out of no-go zone? How was the Dunning of units 1-3 organized? I've been looking for this information with zero succes....
I love that they actually showed it blow up. This event is talked about over and over and over but you never actually SEE it happen. It was nice for them to show what it may have looked like in that room for a split second
@@danieldorn2927 Give me some citations that leftists' main argument against capitalism is that "everything has to be cheap". What the hell are you talking about? In regards to the environment, the argument is that things are too cheap right now, and too many environmental impacts are missing in markets. The USSR was always incredibly poor, Eastern Europe was much poorer than Western Europe going back centuries. Poor capitalist countries have many of the same problems, they are economically far behind and do things on the cheap out of necessity, some of it incredibly dangerous and environmentally destructive. Who the hell says that leftists want things to be cheap? In regards to single payer healthcare (which exists in many Western countries), the lower cost is the result of how much more efficient and simple the system is. Having said that, the USSR (like many poor capitalist countries the US now supports, and increasingly like the modern US and many parts of the capitalist West) was an authoritarian system, and that did contribute to what happened at Chernobyl. Right now we are not just destroying one part of Europe, we are destroying the entire worldwide environment and many capitalist interests don't care because doing what is needed to be done would harm their profits, and would certainly require an entirely different economic system. Like typical Americans, many are watching this and learning very predictable lessons. I, personally, think about what is coming for us in regards to the environmental crisis, I look at how authoritarian our system is, how incapable of change the political system is and the economic system on the whole, I look at a two party system in our country with many of the same deficiencies that we saw in the USSR, a media system dominated by a few powerful interests that spit out propaganda not radically different than the old USSR and I see a population that feels entirely cut off from what the state does because (as many studies how) what most people want has no impact on what the state does. People like you watch this and think, "Communism bad."
@@danieldorn2927 Socialism in the Soviet Union was worse than what it is in the rest of the developed world at the time and currently. They used it for ultra radical exploitation and manipulation
I know it's late but. Desingers of RBMK reactor didn't think that some idiot will competely pull out almost all control rods. It wasn't just the tip but rather 1/3 of control rod was made of graphite. It was disgned to stay in reactor. Some things were simplified for series purposes. I'm not exusing Soviet Union for lying about this possibility. Scientists didn't want to create nuclear bomb, for example goverment revused to build contaiment buildings because in their minds it woud take too much time to build them
I don't think a lot of people realize, but Pripyat was actually a model city in the ussr, a little soviet utopia. It was specifically built for the workers of the powerplant, it was founded in 1970 only. Housing engineers, nuclear physicists and such, it was actually a high esteem to live there. It had a lot of facilities for a small city of 50.000 like cinema, 3 swimming pools, a lot of cafeterias, schools, malls, theme park, stadiums, gyms, etc. You can guess that not many of the soviet towns had such a lively atmosphere. Even if those block of buildings look sad (especially now, uninhabitated), it was actually one of the best and most modern places to live in the ussr, and I assume it could compete with western cities as well. Not just a random town got destroyed by those faults.
"The chain of Disaster is now complete" might probably be one of the most scariest dialogues I have ever heard with a nuclear bomb blast as the background music.
In University for my engineering degree, we all had to take a safety engineering class...which was mostly just case studies of past accidents and disasters. The phrase 'chain of disaster' is something that is used often and when an engineer hears it has a special ring to it. We do so much work to try to prevent this kind of stuff, but humans are incredibly hard to predict.
Man I wish people who are against nuclear power plants would watch this series, not only does it state that explosions are damn near impossible, but it also shows that the explosion produced by Chernobyls power plant was caused by incompetence, cheap materials and a lack of funding. It even states that reactors in the west are/were better equipped for the worst(this)
I mean, those reactors are also quite safe (except for the lack of containment buildings), the issue is that they rely on the human factor in a much bigger way for that safety. This becomes a problem when, for example in Chernobyl's case, an experienced and generally competent head engineer gets cocky and decides to wing it and violate multiple safety protocols when things arent going his way instead of following procedure.
Many things are incredibly safe in theory, but when the profit margin comes into play, you can throw all your theories out the window. Things get fucked up all the time, everywhere, just because it is cheaper. Even the so called communist sovjet union was driven by money and profit, not safety. And just look at the US. Tens of thousands, if not millions will have their lives permanently impacted because ultimately a railway company wanted to cut costs. It doesn't matter how safe something is. If the potential behind the technology is highly destructive, humankind WILL find a way to fuck it up if it isn't regulated to death.
They are not control rods. They are the lids of the channels. There is either fuel channel or control rod channel under every lid. In emergency, the lids begin to work as relief valves. Each lid is 350 kg.
I wouldn’t say that. For me, I have general definition or idea on how a reactor works and makes electricity and what goes on that makes the steam for said electricity. But again. A general understanding I have.
Shows that something as dangerous as a nuclear power plant is not the place to be cheap. And this historic nuclear disaster proves it. Something that could've been completely avoided..
There's no such thing as a foolproof machine. There's always a fool bigger than the proof. That's as true with nuclear reactors as with everything else.
@@MaureenLycaon So the people who worked at the reactor are to blame? Not the people who cheaped out on building the building, put in no failsafes, and led to this disaster? Your philosophical argument does not hold up to actual evidence and scientific proof. Maybe watch the clip next time.
@@stormcloudsabound Yes, the people who worked there do shoulder a fair bit of the blame for the disaster. If Bryukhanov hadn’t pushed to get the test done after a ten hour delay from when they originally planned, the explosion might not have happened. If the night shift staff had insisted on not performing the test when it became clear they didn’t know what they were doing, things might not have gotten out of control. If Dyatlov had pulled the plug when the reactor stalled instead of trying to get the power back, the control rods might have still been in the core before the power spiked. Not knowing about the graphite tips wasn’t their fault, nor was the cheap design of the building, but they absolutely shoulder a fair deal of responsibility for the accident.
This scene is absolutely perfect. There's no music accompanying the narrative: the narrator talks over an almost absolute silence of shocked and ashamed people. That silence makes any sound that happens ten times louder, because that's how we would have perceived it in real life. The way he narrates it in a controled, yet emotional way is just amazing, and the only moment we get a bit of music is when the tragedy happens, and it's a tune that mixes music with actual sounds of metal bending and breaking. I don't think I'll ever get tired of this scene.
You are bang on. In this case the adagium "less is more" absolutely applies. And if you happen to have a good home cinema set, I strongly recommend watching this scene with it running. When in episode one they came at the open reactor and you can hear it still fission, hissing and whistling whilst they look over the railing, it will send shivers down your spine. One of the scariest sounds I ever heard, and I've heard quite a few in my lifetime. The music is composed of actual nuclear reactor power plant sounds. Hildur Guðnadóttir (the soundtrack composer) went to the Ignalina NPP and walked around for hours with her sound recording crew to record the various sounds of a working nuclear power plant. She has done a phenomenal job!
@@swokatsamsiyu3590 Wait, the music was done with actual nuclear reactor sounds?? That's amazing! I was wondering where those sounds came from. Incredible.
@@Zilkenian_Davenport Yep, basically the entire soundtrack was made up with the sounds of an actual NPP (the now decommissioned Ignalina power plant which was a sister plant to the Chernobyl NPP. It used the same RBMK reactortype). She went in there donned in hazmat gear and recorded things like the turning on of a turbine, a pump starting. I even think she received an award for her outstanding work on this series.
@@swokatsamsiyu3590 yep,I watched the whole series in a day Wore my friend's third hand studio headphones And it was clapping in the other room so,it was awkward to get out She was gone after I finished watchin,but he was still here Dead Drunk on wine
@@xxch4osxx At this time in the USSR, dissidents faced internal exile, only Legasov never did anything that warranted an exile because he never spilled any beans.
@@theduck3876 The show is a drama, not a documentary. It is not meant to educate you, and indeed it doesn't: much of what it shows about the events and how radiation works is nonsense.
Couple of facts 1: the lid flew through the roof and landed sideways over the reactor 2: the firefighters clothes in the basement are still radioactive 3: 2 of the divers are still alive today 4: the photo you see of the reactor fuel/corium is actually a phot through a mirror down a hallway
that is a myth, here's a link to an archive footage of going inside the remains of reactor no 4, along with the corium or elephants foot as its called, with elena (the bioshield you mentioned in point 1) and few other interesting bits ruclips.net/video/NkwEfbIBnDU/видео.html&ab_channel=SomeStuff
@@jabronis33 there was no nuclear explosion. It occurs in nuclear weapons, not reactors. Reactors use less enriched uranium, they are only capable of putting out lots of power, but not all of it in microseconds like a nuclear weapon. The second explosion was chemical in nature, the first one was caused by the pressure.
@@zell863 still not a nuclear explosion. Very different from a nuclear explosion. When a nuke goes off, most of the energy is radiated out as xrays, and the sorrounding air turns into a fireball. That didn't happen at chernobyl. And every proper nuke explodes with at least many kilotonns of energy (before some smartass thinks to fuck with me again in the comment section, I know about the suitcase bomb, I also know about the kricket). Just because the energy came from fission, it is not a nuke. All fossile energy can be traced back to fusion energy, yet nobody says their car is a hydrogen bomb. The energy in the reactor was produced over many seconds, not microseconds, and it exploded like a faulty steam engine. In my opinion you guys are idiots. Some moron before me wrote about some bullshit nuclear explosion after the first explosion, and so I wrote down how nonsense that is. And here you are insisting on Chernobyl being a nuclear explosion. Pathetic.
Ask Boeing about "cause its cheaper...." How the 737 MAX was conceived. New engines placed very high up on an old plane designed in he 60s. Cheaper than designing a new plane...Not notifying the pilots was cheaper too...
'The tips are graphite' is misunderstood by most people, the rods are like 6 meters long, the top 3 meters are made of boron, the bottom 3 meters are made of graphite, there is small water gap between the boron and the graphite. The reason the rods are designed in this way is that a column of water will reduce reactivity, so you replace that column of water with graphite to better modulate the reaction, and yes, this design is cheaper. When the graphite is fully inserted there is a water gap at the top and at the bottom of the reaction. When AZ5 was pressed, the rods dropped, and at the bottom of the reaction (where water was reducing reactivity) that was replaced by the graphite rod, which caused the localized spike which caused something to break, the rods to get stuck, and eventual disaster. 'The tips are graphite' was cheaper, and it was dangerous, but it wasn't just a random design error, it was purposely designed in this way.
However an easy fix which was implemented after Chernobyl was to not allow the rods to be moved such that the watergap appears on the bottom. The flaw could have been fixed by design by just making the graphite tips the entire length of the core, or making the ends longer and out of steel, or something else that replaces the water there. And to be fair, nobody expected some dickhead to turn off most safety systems, ignore most operating procedures, and then push that button...except it happened before, TO DYATLOV, and nobody did anything.
@A gaming protogen The tips are graphite' is misunderstood by most people, the rods are like 20 feet long, the top 10 feet are made of boron, the bottom 10 feet are made of graphite, there is small water gap between the boron and the graphite. The reason the rods are designed in this way is that a column of water will reduce reactivity, so you replace that column of water with graphite to better modulate the reaction, and yes, this design is cheaper. When the graphite is fully inserted there is a water gap at the top and at the bottom of the reaction. When AZ5 was pressed, the rods dropped, and at the bottom of the reaction (where water was reducing reactivity) that was replaced by the graphite rod, which caused the localized spike which caused something to break, the rods to get stuck, and eventual disaster. 'The tips are graphite' was cheaper, and it was dangerous, but it wasn't just a random design error, it was purposely designed in this way.
It’s hard to imagine how fast it happens when he’s just speaking so here ya go... 1:23:40 A3-5 pressed 1:23:42 sees caps jumping 1:23:44 steam blows channels apart 1:23:45 explosion Crazy.
The scene where the lid blew off the reactor was amazing. Remember, the actual weight of the reactor lid was 1 million pounds. Steam contained enough energy to blow the lid hundreds of feet into the sky.
That face when he said “it’s cheaper”. That what a real bombshell dropping looks like, everyone’s to taken aback by what was just said to have an outburst.
Gotta say - Not claiming to be a physicist, but I feel much more educated as to the workings of a nuclear reactor than I was before watching the show's court scene.
The look on everyone’s faces when he finishes his “the same reason” portion of the speech. Nobody is shocked, nobody is surprised, they are disappointed. Because every single damn one of them *knows* that this is *exactly* the kind of thing their government would do. It’s exactly the kind of humiliating dirty little secret that permeated every aspect of the Soviet Union, and it explains everything about why this catastrophe occurred, and the USSR’s reaction after. TLDR: I just feel that the “It’s cheaper” line is grossly underrated.
I'd argue that "cheaper" is merely a result. The real cause is an economic system of rationing resources where no true value of the materials and labor is ever an important consideration. This was communism.
@@CrossedSabresCOD But that's arguably *worse*. Because then that means that their government isn't just lying to them, it means that their whole ideology is a sham, and no better than the capitalists they compare themselves to.
My hope is that folks in the west understand that their governments do the same thing...WITHOUT having to go through something like Chernobyl to realize it.
AZ-5 buttons are doing their job on RBMK reactors to this day without major incident except this one time in Chernobyl when the operators ignored all protocol and essentially overcooked the reactor without knowing it before they pressed the button.
What's really terrifying is how clueless they all look during the entire trial. It isn't withing the reach of everyone to fully understand how a nuclear reactor works but Legassov did an excellent job at simplify it and making it understandable for anyone. He knew the only way to make things change was to show to the people in charge how deplorable their nuclear plan was and what were the consequences.
Many people wouldn't understand the horror experienced by the people working there, upon seeing the control rods jumping up and down. Let me tell you, being a physicist myself working in the same field, This scene had the shit out of me. This is something that we are taught CANNOT happen in the WORST of situations and yet it did in Chernobyl. This is one of the most horrifying and blood curdling scenes that you could ever show to Nuclear scientist!
The sheer amount of pressure under that lid is just unthinkable. The amount of thermal energy required to create that scenario is… yeah, that’s nightmare fuel.
@@thejfactor1 because its a capitalist country at it's heart, take it from some who lives in china... the ammount of starbucks and mcdonalds, apple stores and so on. not to mention coca cola. i recommend checking out patriot act Coca cola corruption episode.
independent research it’s mostly because: 1. They have talented scientists and engineers, 2. They segment different portions of their nuclear business differently than that of US businesses, such that each segment is responsible for one thing and one thing only (site planning, balance-of-plant, primary system, etc), 3. Their supply chains are matured and they can produce all components domestically, 4. The US did most of the heavy lifting when it came to developing these reactors, and China is now fine-tuning these designs further, 5. Their country can commit to long term projects, unlike here in the US, 6. They don’t have anti-nuclear crowds blocking access to site workers during the construction phase
0:34 Dyatlov's face. He never expected for someone to tell the truth. He never expected someone to acknowledge that he HAD believed there was a failsafe, that these issues were systemic and didn't begin and end with his mistakes.
@@jeburr24 At least under capitalism, you have options. If you don't like how companies manage their business, you can switch to others. Well, under communism, you too have options: a) The party. b) Jail.
The control rods jumping up and down was true. The guy actually was waving his hands at the camera but of course no one saw him so he tried to run to the control room.
I really like how this show was paced. It didn’t show the explosion part in the beginning. It shows you the death of the main character. Then shows the context afterwards. It builds up tension instead of just showing it instantly and killing your attention span.
I think they dealt with it in the next scene. They said he would not be killed because Legasov was already a poster boy in Vienna, instead he would be made irrelevant and all the proceedings of the trial denied
@@literallynull I live a few miles away from TMI. They are thinking of shutting the plant down actually. Not sure what they are gonna do with the accident building. My dad went over 100 miles away to a 2 room cabin with 20 family members the day it happened. No one knew if it would blow. Didn't come back till Peanut president Jimmy Carter proved it was safe.
3:30. That sound, the scenery, the music. You feel the destruction and see it before your very eyes. The alarm sounding, the fire, the debris....the chain of disaster is truly complete.
That sounds like a lot but never underestimate the power of steam. Steam can easily move a 40k ton ship. A steam explosion can easily push a several ton lip off
I feel a large reason this series was created was actually to show people how safe and effective modern reactors really are by displaying the faults and giving multiple reasons as to why Chernobyl failed, but instead the series just heightened fear in most people
This show was scarier than any movie, tv show and book that I’ve ever read. This scene, the firefighter picking up the graphite, the guy looking into the core burning and the divers in the water pipe room are fucking horrifying.
Probably because not only is the threat arguably the most dangerous thing in the world- completely invisible, silent, odorless and tasteless, and almost impossible to stop, but it's 100% a true story. The most harrowing part of the movie to me was the two men looking into the open reactor. Those men were dead before they even entered the room.
My god... The way they portrayed the explosion was near... accurate. The VFX and all are awesome, and it's real shocking to se this scene is because... the event actually happened.
“Because it’s cheaper.” Most. Haunting. Words. EVER! I usually say “Because it’s cheaper” when someone asks me why people never hire other people for permanent jobs and only accept those who stay at best 2 months (I mean, it’s easier to spare money when you let people work and make them overwork and even take advantage of them, only to throw them out like used toilet paper, than to make them work and pay them forever) I never thought that sentence could be used for such dark stuff.
Really think about your statement about HR practices and people though... It's cheaper to pay contractors and not pay their health insurance. It's cheaper to just hire someone new off the street rather than develop and train a competent staff member. It's cheaper to ignore the valid concerns of your workforce in favor of your own blinkered view of how the business should work. The amount of destruction I see in businesses on a daily basis just from their absurd obsession with maximizing short term profit is demoralizing. It's one of the reasons I think taking a company public is a huge strategic mistake. Now that I see the type of people who inhabit places like Wall Street, I never want to give them more power over how my organization runs and plans than I have to. Shareholders have ZERO skin in the game relative to the employees of the company and their families.
Except that didn’t happen in reality, that was just put in his mouth by HBO despite the fact that it’s untrue in itself and also made up as a fact of the order of events.
@@thecaretaker8547 I’m mostly just pointing out how on-point the acting and directing is for this scene. It we’re talking about how historically accurate the series is, that’s a whole other conversation. I won’t get into that.
5,000+ degrees farenheit. 20,000 to 30,000 roentgen per hour. The fact it took a 5 million pound lid to contain the core just shows the power nuclear reactors hold. It's as impressive as it is terrifying. When those men went to check on the reactor, only to see the core starting to melt down, it wasn't a good time for them. I believe those two in particular died no more than a day later.
I deeply admire the fact that they saved the explosion for last. Like a big bright cherry, it had to wait until we'd digested the episodes about everything around it.
Best ever final episode. Loved the way they explained how a nuclear reactor works and what was the reson behind the Chernobyl incident, even a common audience can understand. Cheaper and Ego!!
On the log it's actually 3 seconds. The servos of the diagnostic computer recorded the rods failling to align one by one until the entire set recorded as dead.
A friend of mine was born April 20, 1986, in a town not far from Kiev. Not even a week later, Chernobyl explodes. His dad is brought on as a liquidator, with a newborn son at home. Thankfully they're both okay and my friend has now immigrated to the United States.
3:38 The ghostly blue glow of Cherenkov radiation hovering over the fresh corpse of a dead nuclear reactor. It's like the angel of death. That's my favorite erie part of this series personally.
As soon as the lid came off and allowed oxygen in it was all over. Fire feeds off oxygen, smoke rises, and once the fire ignited, the smoke became radioactive and started disseminating into the atmosphere, being noticed as far away as Sweden. The Soviets really didn’t understand what they were dealing with.
Wonderful summary, the only caveat I have is calling it a “lid” confuses some of the newer people to the subject. It’s a lid in the sense that it COULD be removed to perform maintenance to the reactor channels, but I’ve found that some people assume that means that it was always seen as a possibility that the enormous upper biological shield could fail when in actuality it was seen as a near impossibility.
Wdym fire feeds off of oxygen ? Dihydrogen combines violently with dioxygen, that's what caused the deflagration and explosion. It made the graphite burn (graphite is a special type of coal actually). But graphite didn't ignite out of nowhere. That's why there was graphite that wasn't burning on the roof and outside. Also, smoke didn't "became radioactive". Fire made air rise (hotter air rises) and that hotter air carried fine particles of radioactive materials which deposited everywhere in Europe due to the wind. It was mostly cesium and iodine.
The terror that crawled through my spine when I watched the moment of the explosion for the first time was unmatched by any other horror scene. Cheers to the show creators for giving us the best limited series in television history.
The terrifying part to me is that this wasn’t a nuclear explosion, just a traditional one. If it had been a nuclear explosion, Chernobyl wouldn’t be an exclusion zone; it’d be a crater.
"Reactor 4, designed to operate at 3200 megawatts, went beyond 33,000." ...and there are some who estimate that the power may have risen ten times higher than that. _Three hundred gigawatts._ Good God...
Indeed. Remember that the dosimeters early in the show could only show 3.5 Roentgen and the actual was so much greater. "We don't know how high the power went that night" is a terrifying statement to an engineer.
Beirut explosion captured from 11 different angles: ruclips.net/video/B2R-VrUDx-0/видео.html
Quite ironic.
Now i dont wanna explode roblox innovation lab games-
Like im not tryna be mean it just now makes me realise if this was real life and how much damage i would of caused.
Im terrified about those games it just seems real and seeing explosions in real life makes me feel terrible about myself-
@Lurking Carrier ok
conspiracy theorists crack me up
Have you kept up with the investigation?
It’s still ongoing I believe
"Because it's cheaper"
You didn't say shit like that in the Soviet Union unless you wanted to disappear. The fact that this man said that to a group of Soviet decision-makers shows how dire things were.
This man's admantium balls had their gravitational pull.
he's already in death's door cuz he was the lead scientist to oversee the containment operation of the reactor 4. He was exposed with so much radiation that pretty much slashed his life in half.
Actually it was known & well discussed in the scientific community... Noone just foresaw such an extreme situation occuring
Thanks to his vastly shortened lifespan from being in proximity to the nuclear disaster he helped handle, he is completely out of f$#@s to give in regards to being Unpersoned.
Actually this scene is fiction. In reality Legasov didn't actually attend the trial. You can google it yourself if you want to. Still an incredible scene and a show though
This actor did a tremendous job in this entire series, every sentence spoken was with conviction, he showed fear in scenes he needed too, this guy is underrated
He’s great as Holmes’ archenemy, Moriarty, in Game of Shadows.
Honestly, I don't think you can name a single bad casting in the entire cast, its so well done and not a single moment wasted or out of place.
if you want check out the first season of the series "The Terror" he plays the main character too and he is really good in that as well, i saw him there and it was the main reason i decided to give Chernobyl also a go
His father would be proud.
I was riveted to that scene. I seriously need to see this movie ASAP.
"It's cheaper."
In two words, he told the entire Soviet Union that he sees right through their bullshit.
why didn't your comment get heart???
He really did
To be fair, that WAS the Soviet Union in a nutshell.
'Cheap' has two definitions: low price, or low quality.
This was both. Horrifyingly.
@RADIO-MAST1970 Good question. Care to supply an answer? 😳
"its cheaper"
A statement more deadly than the radiation.
Newer technology is safer
This is a really good take
@@_etg Yes but its also expensive. Hence the "Its cheaper" line.
Corporations, greed, and government will almost 90 percent of the time resort to something that is cheaper rather than something more efficient but costly.
That's how the world works.
“You are dealing with something that has never occurred on this planet before.”
that quote still gives me goosebumps to this day
To their credit. digging the tunnel underneath and placing a heat exchanger under the concrete may have saved humanity; otherwise the molten fuel would have burned through said concrete and detonate with the ground water. The whole of Europe would have been doomed, and many other countries.
@@amramjose No one is Saying otherwise
Glory to the Chernobyl liquidators.
@@amramjose Digging the tunnel was useless - the melt solidified well before melting through the concrete foundations.
And in the event of corium contact with groundwater, no insane detonation would occur - the notion that it would is not scientific and it was not considered by the scientists who worked on this disaster. The whole HBO show is riddled with inaccuracies because its source is a popular sensationalist book on Chernobyl, not actual documented facts. As much as the show has realistic scenography and the general feel of SSSR, it's just painfully incorrect in so many important things.
Something that never happened in any planet in the Solar System.
@@Demons972 it really drives home the magnitude of the disaster
I will never get tired of watching scientists call politicians out on their bullshit
Rigel communism, capitalism, globalism, corporatism, fascism, dictatorship, monarchy, and totalitarian... they all have one thing in common. They like to prove the one in charge is right
Just for the record: Legasov was a very active member of the Communist Party. Yes, he was much more scientist than politician, but he definitely belonged to the Nomenklatura.
Me neither, it’s great.
@Kenny Strawser Other scientists lmao
Fuck them both😂
The fact that this really happened is the scary part.
Invictus agreed. The series was absolutely amazing though. I literally could not stop watching it. Of course Hollywood had to put their twist on it but still my main point is that this was a true event. But the only thing that made me laugh was the biggest flaw. They used British actors with British accents hahahahahaha.
@@freakerhunter8857 The creators addressed this, I forgot the statement exactly but they said something like - at the end they felt as if they made the actors take on a fake eastern European accent, that would be more distracting/comedic than just having them speak in their native accent. Its also why you don't hear any American accents in the show.
@@freakerhunter8857 absolutely disagree. the decision in an English language show to use accents that make sense to English speaking viewers is the best decision they could have made. Accents communicate just as much about a character as dialogue, so having fake, Russian, English-speaking accents makes no sense, unless you're trying to differentiate a character by their Russian-ness (they aren't.) Using accents that English speakers are familiar with lets you add character to your characters that otherwise would not be there. Akimov is soft-spoken but firm. Dyatlov speaks as if he knows authoritatively what he is talking about. Legasov carries the air of a professor; somebody who actually knows what he's talking about.
@Spastik It did happen in real life
@Thomas Cibula exactly why we should convert to geothermal for power grids
3:15
I love how often the shots make the reactor look like some kind of eldritch horror leaking out death. Which, in a way, it was.
What is this things?
@@ashenone6967 The reactor
I mean, a weird rock that melts your cells with invisible energy if you stare at it for too long is very eldritch, if you ask me.
@@DonVigaDeFierro Ikr. Sometimes reality is weirder and scarier than fiction
Reminds me of a Lovecraftian monster that has been unleashed in this world
The control rods bouncing might be the scariest shit here.
How about the 1000 tons UBS shield Flying like a butterfly ?
@@vacciniumaugustifolium1420 thats the second scariest.
@@andrejbusin3508 or the reactor exploding
@@Anxmaly666 that too
@@vacciniumaugustifolium1420
What is UBS shield?
Moral of the story don’t be cheap when it comes to building a power plant.
i totally agree with you
The fact that Homer Simpson works at a nuclear powerplant
I will never see this fact the same way again
Actual moral of the story, we were right to dissolve the soviet union.
@@jamesshore3191 Moral of the story: when people protect their ideology and ignore the real world, eventually there will be a HARD collision with reality.
Don't perform idiotic tests in the middle of the night.
Everybody gangsta till the control rods start dancing
They dance the coffin dance
Yeeeessss my guy
somebody put @MEH over that
Music starts playing instead of an alarm
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I think the funniest part about the Chernobyl disaster is that the other 3 units were still in operation. Everyone in those must've looked out the windows and been like "Oh those idiots in #4 are at it again..."
Apparently the leader of 4 tried to set the power generation to 200mw, and took out the control rods, which caused the cap to be launched thru the roof, and boiled all the steam (which caused the lif to pop) and it then exploded AGAIN
@@DestroyahTheBanned All while the sounds of Dyatlov's hardbass mix echoing through the turbine hall.
No but seriously... The other 3 units were in operation for years after that. Hell, they were in operation DURING the post-explosion cleaning operation. I want to know how they were operated. What was done to keep the workers there safe? How did they got in and out of no-go zone? How was the Dunning of units 1-3 organized? I've been looking for this information with zero succes....
Dyatlov and Rogozhkin signed an order to shut down Unit 3 that night. HBO doesn't tell of any the good Dyatlov did because they needed a villain.
@@terezacervenakova3512 They shut down the units until late 1986 before they were then opened up.
Friendly reminder that the roof of the reactor weighed several tons, and it got flipped like a coin.
Jesus.
6 miilion pounds to be exact.
@@21owlgirl72 i think thats 2000 tonnes
Not sure im likely wrong
@@plotsky_ not even close
@@21owlgirl72
*6M Pounds = 2721554.22 Kilograms.*
*which means... 2721.5 Tons.*
*(That much weight🤔?)*
I love that they actually showed it blow up. This event is talked about over and over and over but you never actually SEE it happen. It was nice for them to show what it may have looked like in that room for a split second
yeah i really like that too
I love how he basically admits to everyone that the reactor was built to be cheap and dangerous
I mean, what left is there to lose? Almost, if not, no one in the building survived the accident.
Funny how everything still has to be cheap even in socialism, isn't this the main argument from leftists against capitalism?
@@danieldorn2927 Give me some citations that leftists' main argument against capitalism is that "everything has to be cheap". What the hell are you talking about? In regards to the environment, the argument is that things are too cheap right now, and too many environmental impacts are missing in markets. The USSR was always incredibly poor, Eastern Europe was much poorer than Western Europe going back centuries. Poor capitalist countries have many of the same problems, they are economically far behind and do things on the cheap out of necessity, some of it incredibly dangerous and environmentally destructive. Who the hell says that leftists want things to be cheap? In regards to single payer healthcare (which exists in many Western countries), the lower cost is the result of how much more efficient and simple the system is.
Having said that, the USSR (like many poor capitalist countries the US now supports, and increasingly like the modern US and many parts of the capitalist West) was an authoritarian system, and that did contribute to what happened at Chernobyl. Right now we are not just destroying one part of Europe, we are destroying the entire worldwide environment and many capitalist interests don't care because doing what is needed to be done would harm their profits, and would certainly require an entirely different economic system.
Like typical Americans, many are watching this and learning very predictable lessons. I, personally, think about what is coming for us in regards to the environmental crisis, I look at how authoritarian our system is, how incapable of change the political system is and the economic system on the whole, I look at a two party system in our country with many of the same deficiencies that we saw in the USSR, a media system dominated by a few powerful interests that spit out propaganda not radically different than the old USSR and I see a population that feels entirely cut off from what the state does because (as many studies how) what most people want has no impact on what the state does. People like you watch this and think, "Communism bad."
@@danieldorn2927 Socialism in the Soviet Union was worse than what it is in the rest of the developed world at the time and currently. They used it for ultra radical exploitation and manipulation
I know it's late but. Desingers of RBMK reactor didn't think that some idiot will competely pull out almost all control rods. It wasn't just the tip but rather 1/3 of control rod was made of graphite. It was disgned to stay in reactor. Some things were simplified for series purposes. I'm not exusing Soviet Union for lying about this possibility. Scientists didn't want to create nuclear bomb, for example goverment revused to build contaiment buildings because in their minds it woud take too much time to build them
I don't think a lot of people realize, but Pripyat was actually a model city in the ussr, a little soviet utopia. It was specifically built for the workers of the powerplant, it was founded in 1970 only. Housing engineers, nuclear physicists and such, it was actually a high esteem to live there. It had a lot of facilities for a small city of 50.000 like cinema, 3 swimming pools, a lot of cafeterias, schools, malls, theme park, stadiums, gyms, etc. You can guess that not many of the soviet towns had such a lively atmosphere.
Even if those block of buildings look sad (especially now, uninhabitated), it was actually one of the best and most modern places to live in the ussr, and I assume it could compete with western cities as well. Not just a random town got destroyed by those faults.
"The chain of Disaster is now complete" might probably be one of the most scariest dialogues I have ever heard with a nuclear bomb blast as the background music.
3:02 if u want to watch the explosion scene again.
Right??? This whole scene was so intense!
3:18 *OH FUCK BOX 4 JUST EXPLODED*
In University for my engineering degree, we all had to take a safety engineering class...which was mostly just case studies of past accidents and disasters.
The phrase 'chain of disaster' is something that is used often and when an engineer hears it has a special ring to it. We do so much work to try to prevent this kind of stuff, but humans are incredibly hard to predict.
I can’t believe they didn’t just unplug it for 30 seconds and plug it back in that usually does the trick
This is real life, not a joke you dumbass. Your phone doesnt work the same as a nuclear reactor!
Jk
@@darnit1944 damn i was about to r/woosshhh you
Well the one guy wanted to shut it all the way down, but his boss forbid it
Haha fr
@@darnit1944 not does it have the same consequential events
3:04 That lid weighed 1000 tons, or 2 million pounds. 2. Million. Pounds. And it shot off like it was a champagne cork.
*wow*
Imagine that going straight at you at the speed of sound from above when your just taking a stroll.
@@Scazoid your wouldn’t be able to imagine lol death on contact
@@dances_with_myself9305 I think you would just be turned into mush.
@@sukunaego9714 death on impact lol
Man I wish people who are against nuclear power plants would watch this series, not only does it state that explosions are damn near impossible, but it also shows that the explosion produced by Chernobyls power plant was caused by incompetence, cheap materials and a lack of funding.
It even states that reactors in the west are/were better equipped for the worst(this)
I mean, those reactors are also quite safe (except for the lack of containment buildings), the issue is that they rely on the human factor in a much bigger way for that safety. This becomes a problem when, for example in Chernobyl's case, an experienced and generally competent head engineer gets cocky and decides to wing it and violate multiple safety protocols when things arent going his way instead of following procedure.
Many things are incredibly safe in theory, but when the profit margin comes into play, you can throw all your theories out the window.
Things get fucked up all the time, everywhere, just because it is cheaper.
Even the so called communist sovjet union was driven by money and profit, not safety.
And just look at the US. Tens of thousands, if not millions will have their lives permanently impacted because ultimately a railway company wanted to cut costs.
It doesn't matter how safe something is. If the potential behind the technology is highly destructive, humankind WILL find a way to fuck it up if it isn't regulated to death.
It’s literally anything but those reasons.
This aged badly after the train detailing. Corporations/ government will take the easy route to save a few bucks. History has shown this several times
@@friedibarti8070 facts. You're incredibly right. Especially about the Ohio situation, so fucked upn
“Because it’s cheaper” understandable have a great day
Yeap, the root of every problem.
⭐️communism⭐️
But this scene is a deep fake
I bet no Soviet guy would ever have done that
Its not true,ir made of grafite to help Control the reactor better,they were never ment to removed so many so far
Bruh its made in *china*
2:16 can't imagine the amount of fear and terror that man experienced in that moment when he saw those rods moving.
Seeing certain death
Yep each weighing 770lbs or 350kg, I would be very scared
@@xShareem "marvs spider scream" aaaiiiieeee
They are not control rods. They are the lids of the channels. There is either fuel channel or control rod channel under every lid. In emergency, the lids begin to work as relief valves. Each lid is 350 kg.
@@ulfvonweimuller4433 a powersurge I hate hate hate them and the reactor was thinking "oh shit you got scraming me"
This show turned millions of people into instant nuclear scientists
They wish 😂😂
I wouldn’t say that. For me, I have general definition or idea on how a reactor works and makes electricity and what goes on that makes the steam for said electricity. But again. A general understanding I have.
@@Rogerv1032 exactly. No matter how good TV show is, it's meant for entertainment. Documentary are same with mix of learning something new
Lol
Funny that for years before this show I either watched the documentary on this or el reno lol
There is a saying in Brazil that says "The cheaper always cost more", this is it.
or a buck chasing a dime?
in Peru we say 'buy quality, not quantity'.. it could be related to what you are saying..
in russia it's "the miser pays twice"
Exactly
In urdu it is "buy cheap, and you always cry. Buy expensive, you cry only once"
Shows that something as dangerous as a nuclear power plant is not the place to be cheap. And this historic nuclear disaster proves it. Something that could've been completely avoided..
There's no such thing as a foolproof machine. There's always a fool bigger than the proof. That's as true with nuclear reactors as with everything else.
@@MaureenLycaon So the people who worked at the reactor are to blame? Not the people who cheaped out on building the building, put in no failsafes, and led to this disaster?
Your philosophical argument does not hold up to actual evidence and scientific proof. Maybe watch the clip next time.
Ye, but if it didn’t happen, they would have never fixed the other reactors
@@MaureenLycaon they were willingly cheap
@@stormcloudsabound Yes, the people who worked there do shoulder a fair bit of the blame for the disaster. If Bryukhanov hadn’t pushed to get the test done after a ten hour delay from when they originally planned, the explosion might not have happened. If the night shift staff had insisted on not performing the test when it became clear they didn’t know what they were doing, things might not have gotten out of control. If Dyatlov had pulled the plug when the reactor stalled instead of trying to get the power back, the control rods might have still been in the core before the power spiked. Not knowing about the graphite tips wasn’t their fault, nor was the cheap design of the building, but they absolutely shoulder a fair deal of responsibility for the accident.
This scene is absolutely perfect. There's no music accompanying the narrative: the narrator talks over an almost absolute silence of shocked and ashamed people. That silence makes any sound that happens ten times louder, because that's how we would have perceived it in real life. The way he narrates it in a controled, yet emotional way is just amazing, and the only moment we get a bit of music is when the tragedy happens, and it's a tune that mixes music with actual sounds of metal bending and breaking.
I don't think I'll ever get tired of this scene.
And the music in it is creepy af
10/10
You are bang on. In this case the adagium "less is more" absolutely applies. And if you happen to have a good home cinema set, I strongly recommend watching this scene with it running. When in episode one they came at the open reactor and you can hear it still fission, hissing and whistling whilst they look over the railing, it will send shivers down your spine. One of the scariest sounds I ever heard, and I've heard quite a few in my lifetime.
The music is composed of actual nuclear reactor power plant sounds. Hildur Guðnadóttir (the soundtrack composer) went to the Ignalina NPP and walked around for hours with her sound recording crew to record the various sounds of a working nuclear power plant. She has done a phenomenal job!
@@swokatsamsiyu3590 Wait, the music was done with actual nuclear reactor sounds?? That's amazing! I was wondering where those sounds came from. Incredible.
@@Zilkenian_Davenport
Yep, basically the entire soundtrack was made up with the sounds of an actual NPP (the now decommissioned Ignalina power plant which was a sister plant to the Chernobyl NPP. It used the same RBMK reactortype). She went in there donned in hazmat gear and recorded things like the turning on of a turbine, a pump starting. I even think she received an award for her outstanding work on this series.
@@swokatsamsiyu3590 yep,I watched the whole series in a day
Wore my friend's third hand studio headphones
And it was clapping in the other room so,it was awkward to get out
She was gone after I finished watchin,but he was still here
Dead Drunk on wine
Can you imagine an explosion so powerful that it could throw a lid that weighs 2 million pounds?
@King Ghidorah 2025
????????
Or 2000 tons that is the biological shield and the fuel caps horrifying
It's very difficult to wrap our heads around but we're aware that there're several explosives that can exceed that of Chernobyl
@@ironphoenix5145 the biggest nuke ever made
Hiroshima...
the iron balls on this scientist telling the politburo they cut corners and it was all their fault is nobel prize worthy in of itself.
Usually would result in spending the rest of your life in prison or you would "disapear"
I really couldn't believe he literally said that shit.
@@xxch4osxx At this time in the USSR, dissidents faced internal exile, only Legasov never did anything that warranted an exile because he never spilled any beans.
HBO created more nuclear scientists in a single weekend than all of the worlds colleges have in 70 years.
honestly the show explains it better than any school has explained it
@@theduck3876 If you think that, then I bet you think RBMK reactors can't explode.
@@TheJMBon well i mean even then it's still better than what my school taught me, they hardly taught shit abt it XD
@@theduck3876 The show is a drama, not a documentary. It is not meant to educate you, and indeed it doesn't: much of what it shows about the events and how radiation works is nonsense.
Matthijs van Duin And much of the events are actually what happened...
Couple of facts
1: the lid flew through the roof and landed sideways over the reactor
2: the firefighters clothes in the basement are still radioactive
3: 2 of the divers are still alive today
4: the photo you see of the reactor fuel/corium is actually a phot through a mirror down a hallway
that is a myth, here's a link to an archive footage of going inside the remains of reactor no 4, along with the corium or elephants foot as its called, with elena (the bioshield you mentioned in point 1) and few other interesting bits
ruclips.net/video/NkwEfbIBnDU/видео.html&ab_channel=SomeStuff
In case anyone was wondering, that lid weighed over 2 MILLION pounds. And it shot off like it was a champagne cork. That alone is terrifying.
nuclear power is well... powerful
@@turquoisegreene9625 it was the steam that blew it off. The nuclear explosion came after oxygen entered
@@jabronis33 there was no nuclear explosion. It occurs in nuclear weapons, not reactors. Reactors use less enriched uranium, they are only capable of putting out lots of power, but not all of it in microseconds like a nuclear weapon. The second explosion was chemical in nature, the first one was caused by the pressure.
@@zoltankurti Yes but that thermal explosion happened, and was so powerful because of energy transmitted from nuclear energy.
@@zell863 still not a nuclear explosion. Very different from a nuclear explosion. When a nuke goes off, most of the energy is radiated out as xrays, and the sorrounding air turns into a fireball. That didn't happen at chernobyl. And every proper nuke explodes with at least many kilotonns of energy (before some smartass thinks to fuck with me again in the comment section, I know about the suitcase bomb, I also know about the kricket). Just because the energy came from fission, it is not a nuke. All fossile energy can be traced back to fusion energy, yet nobody says their car is a hydrogen bomb. The energy in the reactor was produced over many seconds, not microseconds, and it exploded like a faulty steam engine. In my opinion you guys are idiots. Some moron before me wrote about some bullshit nuclear explosion after the first explosion, and so I wrote down how nonsense that is. And here you are insisting on Chernobyl being a nuclear explosion. Pathetic.
cause its cheaper....
couldnt have been more dehumanizing the way he set up that delivery
Ask Boeing about "cause its cheaper...."
How the 737 MAX was conceived. New engines placed very high up on an old plane designed in he 60s. Cheaper than designing a new plane...Not notifying the pilots was cheaper too...
"If we show the explosion in the beginning, it comes off as action. If we tell it after we see the results and the cost. It becomes horrific"
Fantastic. 🤔
'The tips are graphite' is misunderstood by most people, the rods are like 6 meters long, the top 3 meters are made of boron, the bottom 3 meters are made of graphite, there is small water gap between the boron and the graphite. The reason the rods are designed in this way is that a column of water will reduce reactivity, so you replace that column of water with graphite to better modulate the reaction, and yes, this design is cheaper. When the graphite is fully inserted there is a water gap at the top and at the bottom of the reaction. When AZ5 was pressed, the rods dropped, and at the bottom of the reaction (where water was reducing reactivity) that was replaced by the graphite rod, which caused the localized spike which caused something to break, the rods to get stuck, and eventual disaster. 'The tips are graphite' was cheaper, and it was dangerous, but it wasn't just a random design error, it was purposely designed in this way.
However an easy fix which was implemented after Chernobyl was to not allow the rods to be moved such that the watergap appears on the bottom.
The flaw could have been fixed by design by just making the graphite tips the entire length of the core, or making the ends longer and out of steel, or something else that replaces the water there.
And to be fair, nobody expected some dickhead to turn off most safety systems, ignore most operating procedures, and then push that button...except it happened before, TO DYATLOV, and nobody did anything.
@A gaming protogen The tips are graphite' is misunderstood by most people, the rods are like 20 feet long, the top 10 feet are made of boron, the bottom 10 feet are made of graphite, there is small water gap between the boron and the graphite. The reason the rods are designed in this way is that a column of water will reduce reactivity, so you replace that column of water with graphite to better modulate the reaction, and yes, this design is cheaper. When the graphite is fully inserted there is a water gap at the top and at the bottom of the reaction. When AZ5 was pressed, the rods dropped, and at the bottom of the reaction (where water was reducing reactivity) that was replaced by the graphite rod, which caused the localized spike which caused something to break, the rods to get stuck, and eventual disaster. 'The tips are graphite' was cheaper, and it was dangerous, but it wasn't just a random design error, it was purposely designed in this way.
When you wanted cheap nuclear power but instead opened a portal to Hell.
RazorBeak and ironically ended up being the most expensive nuclear power ever. *that's why you never cut corners!*
Where’s the doomslayer when you need him?
Doom (2016)
It was a matter of time
The simple line yet complex delivery of "It's cheaper" couldn't have been done much better.
Dyatlov: Reactor cores don't explode.
Reactor: Hold my boron rods with graphite tips.
Nah the steam will do that
Given that a nuclear reactor is, at its most basic, a steam boiler, and those are known to blow up, it’s foolish to think that one can’t
@@artembentsionov don't worry this one is a special steam boiler with magic light rays that make you feel warm and cozy
Holy Crusader hmm, yeah, I do feel warm and cozy, except I keep wanting to say something...
*Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.*
@@artembentsionov you couldn't have said it better
It’s hard to imagine how fast it happens when he’s just speaking so here ya go...
1:23:40 A3-5 pressed
1:23:42 sees caps jumping
1:23:44 steam blows channels apart
1:23:45 explosion
Crazy.
This is very nice, but you wrote 20 instead of 23 in the first time
1:23:45.. 12345 its like counting to 5 then boom. the reactor is gone
5 seconds
The scene where the lid blew off the reactor was amazing. Remember, the actual weight of the reactor lid was 1 million pounds. Steam contained enough energy to blow the lid hundreds of feet into the sky.
True
2 million
2204622 exactly. (pounds)
That face when he said “it’s cheaper”. That what a real bombshell dropping looks like, everyone’s to taken aback by what was just said to have an outburst.
Everyone after watching Chernobyl
*You know, I’m something of a nuclear physicist myself*
I understood that reference... Norman ;)
Gotta say - Not claiming to be a physicist, but I feel much more educated as to the workings of a nuclear reactor than I was before watching the show's court scene.
Gets a million smoke detectors
The words “it’s cheaper” are probably the worst words in nuclear power plant history.
In any construction *
If there is one thing you should never ever do while building a power plant is go cheap
Nasa gives contracts to companies that can deliver the cheapest parts
The look on everyone’s faces when he finishes his “the same reason” portion of the speech. Nobody is shocked, nobody is surprised, they are disappointed. Because every single damn one of them *knows* that this is *exactly* the kind of thing their government would do. It’s exactly the kind of humiliating dirty little secret that permeated every aspect of the Soviet Union, and it explains everything about why this catastrophe occurred, and the USSR’s reaction after.
TLDR: I just feel that the “It’s cheaper” line is grossly underrated.
I'd argue that "cheaper" is merely a result. The real cause is an economic system of rationing resources where no true value of the materials and labor is ever an important consideration. This was communism.
keep believing in your fairy tales
@@CrossedSabresCOD But that's arguably *worse*. Because then that means that their government isn't just lying to them, it means that their whole ideology is a sham, and no better than the capitalists they compare themselves to.
My hope is that folks in the west understand that their governments do the same thing...WITHOUT having to go through something like Chernobyl to realize it.
“It’s cheaper.” Soviet Union government were insulted by that statement, but it was the truth with national catastrophic result.
Reactor number 4 exists
AZ-5: I’m about to end this whole mans career
@KANYEda WESTaro China
AZ-5 buttons are doing their job on RBMK reactors to this day without major incident except this one time in Chernobyl when the operators ignored all protocol and essentially overcooked the reactor without knowing it before they pressed the button.
When hipsters post on youtube
Imagine watching 800 pound steel blocks doing the macarena as some horrible beast tries to claw its way out from under them.
What's really terrifying is how clueless they all look during the entire trial. It isn't withing the reach of everyone to fully understand how a nuclear reactor works but Legassov did an excellent job at simplify it and making it understandable for anyone. He knew the only way to make things change was to show to the people in charge how deplorable their nuclear plan was and what were the consequences.
I like attention to detail.
Pre-irradiated Dyatlov has mostly darkish hair. But during the court you can see his new hair has completely turned white.
Professor Legasov: "It's cheaper"
Everyone: (⊙_⊙;)
That's about right
Even Roose Bolton knew it was a risky answer! Lol
Many people wouldn't understand the horror experienced by the people working there, upon seeing the control rods jumping up and down. Let me tell you, being a physicist myself working in the same field, This scene had the shit out of me. This is something that we are taught CANNOT happen in the WORST of situations and yet it did in Chernobyl. This is one of the most horrifying and blood curdling scenes that you could ever show to Nuclear scientist!
320 kilograms thats around 700 lbs, there are full size cars that weigh less than that
The sheer amount of pressure under that lid is just unthinkable. The amount of thermal energy required to create that scenario is… yeah, that’s nightmare fuel.
Welcome to the world of Soviet incompetence 👍
@@theneedle6785 yes only you westerners never fail at anything …..
@@42033 hit a nerve ? Just STFU Comrade Dominic. LOL
“Cuz it was cheaper.”
*china sweating intensifies*
They produce better reactors than the US does actually
@@thejfactor1 yeah
@@thejfactor1 because its a capitalist country at it's heart, take it from some who lives in china... the ammount of starbucks and mcdonalds, apple stores and so on. not to mention coca cola. i recommend checking out patriot act Coca cola corruption episode.
independent research it’s mostly because:
1. They have talented scientists and engineers,
2. They segment different portions of their nuclear business differently than that of US businesses, such that each segment is responsible for one thing and one thing only (site planning, balance-of-plant, primary system, etc),
3. Their supply chains are matured and they can produce all components domestically,
4. The US did most of the heavy lifting when it came to developing these reactors, and China is now fine-tuning these designs further,
5. Their country can commit to long term projects, unlike here in the US,
6. They don’t have anti-nuclear crowds blocking access to site workers during the construction phase
Much to the good fortune of the rest of the world, China doesn't have much of a nuclear energy program.
0:34 Dyatlov's face. He never expected for someone to tell the truth. He never expected someone to acknowledge that he HAD believed there was a failsafe, that these issues were systemic and didn't begin and end with his mistakes.
1:32 “Cause it’s Cheaper” The Fall of the Soviet Union in 3 words.
"It's cheaper." How many lives have been lost in very preventable accidents due to that?
Ask Ford (the car manufacturer)
that's how a communist system works
@@strangebrew1231 Funnily enough, that's how capitalist systems work too.
@@jeburr24 At least under capitalism, you have options. If you don't like how companies manage their business, you can switch to others.
Well, under communism, you too have options:
a) The party.
b) Jail.
@@DonVigaDeFierro c) Gulag
The control rods jumping up and down was true. The guy actually was waving his hands at the camera but of course no one saw him so he tried to run to the control room.
I really like how this show was paced. It didn’t show the explosion part in the beginning. It shows you the death of the main character. Then shows the context afterwards. It builds up tension instead of just showing it instantly and killing your attention span.
With Legasov saying “because it’s cheaper” and totally calling out the Soviet system like that, I’m surprised he wasn’t killed by the KGB or something
I think they dealt with it in the next scene. They said he would not be killed because Legasov was already a poster boy in Vienna, instead he would be made irrelevant and all the proceedings of the trial denied
AW Ah, ok. I have only watched clips of the show on RUclips so that would make sense, thanks.
Legasov also committed suicide 2 years later which was the catalyst of more information being released
VoidX Three Mile Island is NOWHERE near Chernobyl. American reactors are some of the safest in the planet
@@literallynull I live a few miles away from TMI. They are thinking of shutting the plant down actually. Not sure what they are gonna do with the accident building. My dad went over 100 miles away to a 2 room cabin with 20 family members the day it happened. No one knew if it would blow. Didn't come back till Peanut president Jimmy Carter proved it was safe.
3:30. That sound, the scenery, the music. You feel the destruction and see it before your very eyes. The alarm sounding, the fire, the debris....the chain of disaster is truly complete.
That's why you don't hire chefs to work at a nuclear power plant
those damn hats
Yes chef "you donkey"
lmao
oh dear oh dear gorgeous
Chernobyl and other disasters like it have a common thread: someone cheaped out, and millions paid the price.
Safety is expensive.
Indeed it is, but what is the cost if something goes terribly, terribly wrong? We’ve seen it here and in Fukushima.
' 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘢𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘸 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘦 '
Very powerful.
"Why?"
"Why? It's cheaper"
One of the reasons the USSR failed.
Yup
the core is delusional, take it to the infirmary
Jmm
Each of those containers weighed close to 800 pounds, so for them to be jumping up and down like that would've required an insane amount of force.
That sounds like a lot but never underestimate the power of steam.
Steam can easily move a 40k ton ship. A steam explosion can easily push a several ton lip off
@@FishmanglitzRemember Yamato is 72000 Tons and it was powered by Kampon Steam Turbines
>3430 N of force to be exact.
It's crazy they blew up Chernobyl again just for this HBO show. True dedication.
I find it funny when he brings up that the emergency shut down had a fatal flaw, Dyatlov looks up and starts to really listen to what he has to say.
jonathan sparks I’ve gotta give that actor a lot of credit. He truly looked surprised and intrigued.
@@ornerypenguin8469 he really did. Like he was looking up thinking "what is he about to say?"
Jared Harris is such a fine actor. This man doesn’t get the credit he deserves.
I feel a large reason this series was created was actually to show people how safe and effective modern reactors really are by displaying the faults and giving multiple reasons as to why Chernobyl failed, but instead the series just heightened fear in most people
Until we get such a massive solar event that it fries electric grids for months on end and nuclear reactors can’t be maintained and eventually… well….
You should see the Chinese reactors, they're pretty terrible too.
@@1love3forever Lmao sure thing buddy
This show was scarier than any movie, tv show and book that I’ve ever read. This scene, the firefighter picking up the graphite, the guy looking into the core burning and the divers in the water pipe room are fucking horrifying.
I was very happy that the divers actually survived
Probably because not only is the threat arguably the most dangerous thing in the world- completely invisible, silent, odorless and tasteless, and almost impossible to stop, but it's 100% a true story. The most harrowing part of the movie to me was the two men looking into the open reactor. Those men were dead before they even entered the room.
My god... The way they portrayed the explosion was near... accurate. The VFX and all are awesome, and it's real shocking to se this scene is because... the event actually happened.
“Because it’s cheaper.” Most. Haunting. Words. EVER!
I usually say “Because it’s cheaper” when someone asks me why people never hire other people for permanent jobs and only accept those who stay at best 2 months (I mean, it’s easier to spare money when you let people work and make them overwork and even take advantage of them, only to throw them out like used toilet paper, than to make them work and pay them forever)
I never thought that sentence could be used for such dark stuff.
Really think about your statement about HR practices and people though...
It's cheaper to pay contractors and not pay their health insurance. It's cheaper to just hire someone new off the street rather than develop and train a competent staff member. It's cheaper to ignore the valid concerns of your workforce in favor of your own blinkered view of how the business should work.
The amount of destruction I see in businesses on a daily basis just from their absurd obsession with maximizing short term profit is demoralizing. It's one of the reasons I think taking a company public is a huge strategic mistake.
Now that I see the type of people who inhabit places like Wall Street, I never want to give them more power over how my organization runs and plans than I have to. Shareholders have ZERO skin in the game relative to the employees of the company and their families.
1:30 Man, the implications the moment he said that. Everybody in that room knew he was a dead man; he sacrificed his life to say that. Great scene.
Except that didn’t happen in reality, that was just put in his mouth by HBO despite the fact that it’s untrue in itself and also made up as a fact of the order of events.
@@thecaretaker8547 I’m mostly just pointing out how on-point the acting and directing is for this scene. It we’re talking about how historically accurate the series is, that’s a whole other conversation. I won’t get into that.
50,000 people used to live here now it’s a ghost town
Mw ?
Pripyat
No DUUUHHH Stupid
@@enchantresshela6327 r/wooosh
Never seen anything like it
Seeing that power display soar up to a five-digit number, when you know it's meant to be at around 3000, must've been utterly terrifying.
and seeing the number go up to x10 capacity is even more disturbing
IIRC, the REAL number was supposed to be three times larger than the 33,000 figure, since that figure was the max number the power display could give.
@@tsarbombawithinternetconne875 wtf
5,000+ degrees farenheit. 20,000 to 30,000 roentgen per hour. The fact it took a 5 million pound lid to contain the core just shows the power nuclear reactors hold. It's as impressive as it is terrifying. When those men went to check on the reactor, only to see the core starting to melt down, it wasn't a good time for them. I believe those two in particular died no more than a day later.
I deeply admire the fact that they saved the explosion for last. Like a big bright cherry, it had to wait until we'd digested the episodes about everything around it.
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I saw a interview in which the person said that 'people were vomiting their internal organs'. I can't even imagine the horror...
Why were they doing that?
@@samanthaander8135 casue of the radiation! The amount of radiation their suffered melt their internal organs.
@@samanthaander8135 they felt like it
Mucous membranes die and get expelled because of acute radiation sickness. A human really decomposes alive. Nobody deserves this horrible death.
Toptunov: new at the job
Reactor 4: I'm about to end this man's whole carreer
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"Chernobyl reactor number 4, is now a nuclear bomb."
Why is this so terrifying?
It’s not
@@trailgoonie8463 it is because it kinda was and would have been if they didn’t close the values.
@@desireeturner680 lets not disscus about that
Because this wasn't fiction. Because this actually happened.
yes its technically true one could also call it a presure cooker bomb
"it's cheaper" two words, yet so profound
Best ever final episode. Loved the way they explained how a nuclear reactor works and what was the reson behind the Chernobyl incident, even a common audience can understand. Cheaper and Ego!!
"RMBK reactors dont explode!"
Reactor 4 " hold my graphite "
@TheSystemGuy99 dyatlov hurt me
"The chain of disaster is now complete"
Chilling as Hell
" The Chain Of Disaster Is Now Complete " ... That's A Cold Ass Line.
you know, it wouldn't have to be, if CNPP never blew.
Sometimes it’s lost on us, but realize that it took all of FIVE SECONDS between Akiimov pressing AZ-5 and the explosion.
On the log it's actually 3 seconds.
The servos of the diagnostic computer recorded the rods failling to align one by one until the entire set recorded as dead.
I’ve heard three, five, and eight, so I’m just gonna go with five since it’s the average
@@ShadowXaenen You don't need to. Just see the log file for yourself, you should find it without much trouble online.
@@tywinlannister8015 oh, okay. Thanks
Five seconds to the first explosion, roughly eight seconds to the second one. I think.
Next time you fuck up at work - this fuck up takes the cake.
Worst part is the dude who fd it up didn’t care or even accept fault.
A friend of mine was born April 20, 1986, in a town not far from Kiev. Not even a week later, Chernobyl explodes. His dad is brought on as a liquidator, with a newborn son at home.
Thankfully they're both okay and my friend has now immigrated to the United States.
His father is a heroe
God bless both of them
3:38 The ghostly blue glow of Cherenkov radiation hovering over the fresh corpse of a dead nuclear reactor. It's like the angel of death. That's my favorite erie part of this series personally.
"Because it's cheaper" this gave me chills
remember cheap isn't always better
@@Makothehybrid Not for the Soviets
@@Makothehybrid Its not about better its about money
@@Makothehybrid they safe the money and cause a disaster
@@foxskyful but still
The scene where control rods started dancing is scarier than every horror movie I saw.
It's cheaper...
-USSR slogan
Capitalist slogan.
It's same for all*
@@jnserantes2 try hard
@@jnserantes2 lmfao imagine being a dumbass like this.
As soon as the lid came off and allowed oxygen in it was all over. Fire feeds off oxygen, smoke rises, and once the fire ignited, the smoke became radioactive and started disseminating into the atmosphere, being noticed as far away as Sweden. The Soviets really didn’t understand what they were dealing with.
They understood, the research and safety were there. They just decided to build it cheaper. This mindset persists until today.
Wonderful summary, the only caveat I have is calling it a “lid” confuses some of the newer people to the subject. It’s a lid in the sense that it COULD be removed to perform maintenance to the reactor channels, but I’ve found that some people assume that means that it was always seen as a possibility that the enormous upper biological shield could fail when in actuality it was seen as a near impossibility.
Wdym fire feeds off of oxygen ? Dihydrogen combines violently with dioxygen, that's what caused the deflagration and explosion. It made the graphite burn (graphite is a special type of coal actually). But graphite didn't ignite out of nowhere. That's why there was graphite that wasn't burning on the roof and outside.
Also, smoke didn't "became radioactive". Fire made air rise (hotter air rises) and that hotter air carried fine particles of radioactive materials which deposited everywhere in Europe due to the wind. It was mostly cesium and iodine.
Legasov: "The final reading was over 33,000."
Famin: "Another faulty meter, you're wasting our time."
viktor says that not fomin but still funny
The terror that crawled through my spine when I watched the moment of the explosion for the first time was unmatched by any other horror scene. Cheers to the show creators for giving us the best limited series in television history.
Terrifying part is that explosion was *very likely* an under exaggeration of just how bad the explosion truly was.
The terrifying part to me is that this wasn’t a nuclear explosion, just a traditional one. If it had been a nuclear explosion, Chernobyl wouldn’t be an exclusion zone; it’d be a crater.
To all the guys in the comments section having a problem with "Chernobyl Reactor 4 is now a nuclear bomb".
He used it METAPHORICALLY !!
"It's cheaper."
Chills, right down my spine.
At that moment you can see their face is stone cold
"Reactor 4, designed to operate at 3200 megawatts, went beyond 33,000."
...and there are some who estimate that the power may have risen ten times higher than that. _Three hundred gigawatts._ Good God...
Uranium's energy density is _incredible._ It makes fossil fuels look like matchsticks in comparison. It just sucks that it's so damn hard to control.
Indeed. Remember that the dosimeters early in the show could only show 3.5 Roentgen and the actual was so much greater.
"We don't know how high the power went that night" is a terrifying statement to an engineer.
Friendly reminder a cone of 1000 tons, acting as biological shield also got yeeted into the air like it was nothing
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