Step Aside, Rubio; The Game has Changed | Hardwax Oil Comparison | The Wood Whisperer

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024

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  • @NaturaOnecoat
    @NaturaOnecoat Год назад +335

    We are honored to be reviewed by Marc, a true craftsman who we all admire. Many thanks for putting so much effort for this fair and informative analyses. We believe all brands share the same goal, which is making easy to use, affordable, environmental friendly and sustainable high quality products for woodworking community. We will keep working hard to improve our products and supply the best solutions to woodworkers.

    • @vdis
      @vdis Год назад +11

      Is there an easy way to get your products from Europe without going through the hassle and costs of overseas imports?

    • @AndreaArzensek
      @AndreaArzensek Год назад +1

      ​@@vdisI wonder as well.

    • @desireemarana4997
      @desireemarana4997 Год назад +1

      First, thank you so much for this comprehensive analysis of these products! Second, that is one of my all time favorite movies!
      It’s my person opinion, that there isn’t a one size fits all product and anyone of these would be fine for certain jobs. DIY Wife used Rubio stains on a huge hutch build but can’t remember if she used their 2c hard wax. Now I have to go back and watch. Again, thanks for all the time you spent on this, it was truly very informative and I was schooled on hard wax finishes! 👍🏻

    • @NaturaOnecoat
      @NaturaOnecoat Год назад +20

      We are planning to expand our Amazon business to Europe soon. Thanks again for your interest.

    • @miguelangelsucrelares5009
      @miguelangelsucrelares5009 Год назад +1

      @@NaturaOnecoat Some ETA would be nice 😉

  • @rusticlumberstore
    @rusticlumberstore Год назад +103

    Thank you very much for the honest and thorough approach to your testing! We're very excited we're we ranked in your testing. Thank you very much for the publicity of our products!

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  Год назад

      👍

    • @weatheredgoodswoodshop
      @weatheredgoodswoodshop Год назад +2

      We build furniture everyday and use several different finishes. The one thing that concerned me was the change in color after setting out overnight. Should I be concerned about that? Any idea what caused that change compared to the others?

    • @mikewilcox8866
      @mikewilcox8866 Год назад

      We thank Marc very much for this info. I am a hobbyist and have never tried any of these. Mainly because I only knew of Rubio. The cost to me was a no go. So I will be trying rustic on my first time out.

    • @mr.h4284
      @mr.h4284 Год назад

      @@woodwhispererrandom question, but is your father a barber in NJ?

  • @layneinchains4047
    @layneinchains4047 Год назад +97

    And this is why you are my favorite woodworking channel! No BS no trying to sell us anything. Just good honest information! Keep up the great work!

    • @pgarciaAP
      @pgarciaAP 8 месяцев назад

      To say a company "might be in trouble" after performing a biased (he prefers more sheen) and subjective comparison is laughably all speculation and click bait.

  • @joshbonney9624
    @joshbonney9624 Год назад +139

    Me personally, as a hobbyist/artist/small business - the one barrier to using Rubio before was the price. Knowing there are cheaper products with similar results, gives me hope.

    • @flyingwalrus7831
      @flyingwalrus7831 Год назад +6

      Rubio does go a long way a 100ml bottle top bottom 4x8 if anything its for hobbyists should love it because it's ease of use. Price comparative when you factor in time/coats/durability factors. only 150 grit needed.

    • @sigogglin
      @sigogglin Год назад

      I agree!

    • @MattMadeIt123
      @MattMadeIt123 Год назад +2

      I recently used Rubio for the first time to finish a chessboard. The price was the reason I hadn't tried it sooner. But the saying "a little goes a long way" couldn't be more true when talking about Rubio. I was amazed at how little it took to finish the chessboard and how easy it is to apply. That said, I will be trying these other products in the future.

    • @FowlerAskew
      @FowlerAskew Год назад +1

      I saw a video by ENCurtis recently that was discussing differences between RUclips/influencer woodworking channels and professional woodworking practices, and that was one of the things he mentioned.
      Rubio is one of the most popular finishes on RUclips, but he said that Osmo was much more common in the professional shops he had worked in

    • @caseobeer
      @caseobeer Год назад +2

      A little goes a long way with Natura also. I recently decided to give it a try, and used 60g of finish and 20g of hardener to put two coats on a recipe box I was making. I had enough left over to give a small coffee table 2 coats as well.

  • @shadman3000
    @shadman3000 Год назад +63

    Bravo to General Finishes for putting the hardener in a container that is actually easy to use and close. I inevitably get that pull-out spout thing completely covered and stuck inside the little can.

    • @SandWoodWithMe
      @SandWoodWithMe Год назад +1

      So true!

    • @mikeamboy7292
      @mikeamboy7292 Год назад +1

      Waterlox is my drink of choice. It's a tung oil varnish, not synthetic. Polyurethane is synthetic, that's what poly means.

    • @mikeamboy7292
      @mikeamboy7292 Год назад

      Waterlox is my drink of choice. It's a tung oil varnish, not a polyurethane. Polyurethane is synthetic, which is what poly means.

    • @warrenwerks
      @warrenwerks Год назад +1

      @@mikeamboy7292 Recently used Waterlox for the first time and I totally agree, was amazed with the results and ease of application

    • @LutherBuilds
      @LutherBuilds Год назад

      ​@@warrenwerksHow easy is it to repair waterlox?

  • @BuildwithMooney
    @BuildwithMooney Год назад +21

    Drop the Mic Marc! This is absolutely the reason why I support this channel. TWW brings more knowledge than most woodworking channels and he has the years of experience to back it up! Fantastic video and better information. The spinning cans turned out perfect thanks to Jason!

  • @johnfstockland
    @johnfstockland Год назад +19

    The nice thing about Osmo is that they have several different options for hard wax oil (matte, satin, semi-matte, transparent, different hues). And they offer cheap samples, so I just ordered 6 of them and tested them on some birch plywood. Really affordable and nice way to pick out the specific oil that fits best with the wood species you're working on.

    • @als1023
      @als1023 Год назад +1

      Agreed, the variety at Osmo is important to some.

  • @Subsonic-cd2en
    @Subsonic-cd2en Год назад +24

    The quality of your videos has gone up dramatically in the past year or two. Not having to worry about sponsors has significantly improved your channel IMO. Thanks for the excellent test! I've been finishing all my furniture with Rubio for several years now. Looks like it's time to give Natura a try!

    • @theartisansmill
      @theartisansmill 7 месяцев назад

      I see it has been 6 months since this comment so I doubt you will see this. Did you try Natura? How did you like it compared to Rubio?

  • @LukeB5000
    @LukeB5000 Год назад +12

    Thank you for making this video. I've been using Rubio for a few years and whilst it's a good finish, there is absolutely no reason for it to be as expensive as it is. In Australia we're paying about USD$270 for the 1.3L tin where as in the US it seems to be ~$180.

  • @soniarosado5971
    @soniarosado5971 7 месяцев назад +291

    I am glad to hear that you have found this book to be very informative and helpful for your woodworking project ruclips.net/user/postUgkxbnOKZBE4evMO5V2vroHeCjq6d_MV6wJO It sounds like you are well prepared and confident to build furniture for your house. I commend you and your friend for your enthusiasm and willingness to learn new things from this book. I hope you enjoy your woodworking journey and create some beautiful pieces.

  • @josiahutah3712
    @josiahutah3712 Год назад +5

    I'm glad you mentioned personal preference regarding sheen. I rely on gloss for durability. But from an aesthetics point of view, less sheen lets us see more color and grain which looks better than white light glaring back at me.

  • @MattEstlea
    @MattEstlea Год назад +9

    Great comparison Marc 👏Shame about the inconclusive results on the spot repair test. Would have been the clear winner for a clumsy donut like myself

  • @teejay3510
    @teejay3510 Год назад +3

    I bought a small can of Rubio and it was insanely expensive ($130/350ml), so while I had some I came up with a recipe of my own and tested it with the Rubio hardener. It worked the same. I can't tell the difference, so it works for me. I'm trying to work out where to buy the hardener by itself at reasonable cost and I'll be set. Here's the recipe:
    On an electric hot-plate outdoors, double boil 1/2 cup pure tung oil, 1/2 cup boiled linseed oil, 15g carnauba wax, 1.5g white (capping) beeswax until the waxes have melted and mixed in. Take off the stove to cool and while it's still warm, not hot, add 1/2 cup of citrus terpene and stir in. Cool to room temperature and put a lid on. Apply just like Rubio - sparingly, not flood coat. If you don't have a hardener it could take anywhere up to 30 days to fully cure.
    I have a Scandinavian oil (similar oils but no wax instead it's marine spar varnish) in the same kind of container (Ball mason jars) and it starts to go hard in the jar after a while but my hard wax oil recipe is still all liquid and mixed, hasn't separated.

  • @knecht105
    @knecht105 Год назад +5

    WOW ... that was a lot of work Marc ... thanks for all the effort and measurable results

  • @jmmcotter1
    @jmmcotter1 Год назад +2

    I see Rubio on RUclips but have never purchased due to price. I like knowing there are less expensive options as a hobbyist. Great and fair comparison.

  • @simonh73
    @simonh73 Год назад +2

    I'm glad you call Isocyante a hardener rather than the disingenuous accelerator that Rubio call it.
    I think Rubio would win as King of Colour. I know not often promoted on RUclips, but they do have an amazing range of 'colors' that I'd urge everyone to take a look at rather than just using Pure on every project. Things like Black or Chocolate on walnut can look amazing.

  • @TheHillyard44
    @TheHillyard44 Год назад +6

    As a hobbyist who wants to move into having my own business one day, this was amazingly helpful. Thanks for the time and effort that you put into this. Well done!

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft Год назад

      It is easier to make it if you focus on built in furniture such as kitchens, closets, book cases and so on. It is much harder to compete in the stand alone furniture field due to the sheer volume of cheap mass produced furniture.

  • @johnpace6836
    @johnpace6836 Год назад +9

    I have been watching you forever and you never disappoint . Your evaluations are always clear, concise and researched. Thank you for what you do!!

  • @peterflynn850
    @peterflynn850 Год назад +6

    Congrats on creating a very clear and thorough video on hard wax oil options! One apparently unique feature of Rubio (at least among the example included in this test) is the wide range of color options available - I am partial to Midnight Indigo and Velvet Green... If you (or anyone who happens to see this reply) is aware of a method for adding color to hard wax oils I would love to learn about it.

  • @joebroyles8164
    @joebroyles8164 Год назад +3

    Extremely, EXTREMELY well done video. You’ve put a lot of thought into this video…results, benefits, possible perceived bias, sustainability and ecological considerations. It made me question, but more importantly it encouraged me to think and to become more open minded.
    Thank you for your time, energy, honesty, and professionalism.

  • @DirkieB
    @DirkieB Год назад +10

    For people in The Netherlands, or wherever the big orange DIY Superstore lives, Hornbach, they do their own hard-wax oil (and a whole series of finishing products). And it's pretty great, and relatively cheap.

    • @Looyenss
      @Looyenss Год назад +1

      Helemaal eens!

  • @CMRct
    @CMRct Год назад +3

    Marc is the Dean of the Woodworkers. No one else does all that extensive research or as well as you do. Bravo!!

  • @mountainlightwoodcraft
    @mountainlightwoodcraft 8 месяцев назад +3

    Marc,
    I took a while responding to this video because I needed the time to try your recommendations on the two "winning" hard wax oil products in your excellent test.
    Having used Rubio in the past, I can tell you that both of these competitors are virtually identical in their final presentation, just as you said.
    However, Rustic Lumber provided nearly 3x the quantity of product for the same price as the other "winner."
    For me, that makes it the clear choice going forward as the final results are superb and definitely a Rubio competitor, finish-wise.
    As always your videos are superb and informative as can be.

  • @raulromeiro8834
    @raulromeiro8834 3 месяца назад

    Definitely changed my mind! Working on a bar that encompasses live edge counter and your comments resonated because of the results and value! Well done!!

  • @Meyerwoodworks
    @Meyerwoodworks Год назад +10

    Rockler now sells Rubio, which will definitely help them. Also, they sell the oil & hardener separate now with twist-caps, which is the way it should be. I always do 1 coat of Rubio followed by 1 coat of the maintenance oil.

    • @mitchallen55
      @mitchallen55 Год назад

      Just getting started. What is maintenence oil?

    • @Meyerwoodworks
      @Meyerwoodworks Год назад +1

      @@mitchallen55 Rubio makes a maintenance oil that goes on top of the regular coat. It provides slightly more durability and added sheen. If you need to touch up the table you can just use that instead of the 2-part Rubio.

  • @skyehagen5521
    @skyehagen5521 Год назад +3

    Great. You're a day late on this. 😁I literally just ordered Rubio last night. One test I would have liked to see is how these performed on epoxy. Not big river tables with large expanses of epoxy, just filled knot holes or epoxy inlays.

  • @ChrisProsserZ06
    @ChrisProsserZ06 Год назад +1

    Am running almost out of Rubio, ordered the Natura at almost half the cost and will give it a go!

  • @kfu4657
    @kfu4657 Год назад +1

    Being a small shop owner, NaturaOnecoat will be something I will add to my top coat finishes. Every penny saved helps keep the shop open. Mahalo for the video info. Very informative channel🤙🏾🤙🏾

  • @jwar2163
    @jwar2163 Год назад +1

    I have used Rubio once or twice But my go to is either General Finishes and or Mohawk. As a small shop I want the best result possible.

  • @Gnomeshoes91
    @Gnomeshoes91 Год назад +4

    I'm astounded at the effort and thought that went into testing these. Thank you for the time you put in! I've only used Rubio before now, but will check out Osmo next time.

  • @bobpurcell5662
    @bobpurcell5662 Год назад +3

    Thanks for this, Marc. As expected, you provided in-depth, thorough, exhaustive testing with "actionable" results. But using a CAT scanner is next level!

  • @gregcall410
    @gregcall410 Год назад +2

    Super interesting video. I started using Rubio monocoat when I first got into woodworking because that’s what all the RUclips woodworkers recommended. I did notice that my wax would harden up after only using about half of the container. This is despite quickly sealing the container after each use. Very frustrating! I would essentially end up wasting half of a container because I wouldn’t use it up before it would harden over. I’ve decided to start using oil finishes like tung oil for deeper penetration into the wood, which should allow for longer protection. Thanks for doing this video!

    • @TaylerMade
      @TaylerMade Год назад

      be very careful who you watch on youtube as a new woodworker. try and watch people who actually make for a living rather than a weekend hobbyist. there is so much misinformation on this media by so called experts (retired furniture maker).

    • @kevinarnold186
      @kevinarnold186 Год назад

      I too have been using Tung oil for all my current projects. As a home hobbyist, I can spend the extra time it takes to lay on all those extra coats. Especially when seeing the trick of applying them in very light coats to avoid future oil seepage.

    • @gregcall410
      @gregcall410 Год назад

      @TaylerMade I completely agree. You have to be judicious about the advice you take from RUclips woodworkers. The first woodworker I followed on RUclips was blacktail studios, who does professional high-end epoxy tables. He almost exclusively uses Rubio monocoat, but then covers it with a ceramic-like nano coating. Overall, I really like Rubio, but it’s very expensive and I’m realizing it’s not as protective as something like tung oil.

  • @philvale5724
    @philvale5724 Год назад +1

    Hi 👋, very interesting, when storing products, including paint, it might be worth store them upside down, making sure that the lid is on securely and tight, this is something I learnt many many years ago as I am now in the 70s. I hope there’s gonna be some help to somebody,
    Ps this even works with things like jam that has a tendency to grow mould on top, I keep my jam in the fridge upside down and so long as it doesn’t get contaminated with the butter or anything like that. It will stay safe for a long time… Phil from the moulin France.

  • @MattMadeIt123
    @MattMadeIt123 Год назад +1

    I just used Rubio for the first time a few weeks ago. I was happy with it. It goes a long way, easy to apply, looks great, and has no nasty smells. But the price is a bit much. Had I seen this video before buying it, I would have tried Natura instead.

  • @loishaley4164
    @loishaley4164 Год назад +1

    As a person who wants to go into research, the experiment set up is *chef's kiss*

  • @clemoniii
    @clemoniii Год назад +2

    Thanks for this. Always good to see an "underdog" do well, and it is frustrating to see a "market leader" was just "marketed" better.

  • @robbie6625
    @robbie6625 Год назад +1

    Gotta say I love the QR code for the plane till. A bit of analog linking LOL

  • @andylong6589
    @andylong6589 Год назад +1

    ive only bought the smaller rubio 2c I really liked it. but, it is nice to see other comparable options.

  • @mikeminnick9712
    @mikeminnick9712 Год назад

    I am a long time hobbyist in woodworking and have been using Waterlox and ArmRSeal for small tables etc. I have been interested to maybe change what I use and found your video informative and really thorough.
    Thank You for such a great video.

  • @TWC6724
    @TWC6724 Год назад +1

    Yay!!!! Finally the number of Rubio videos on RUclips will start diminishing! 👏👏👏

  • @jamiejenn2011
    @jamiejenn2011 Год назад +1

    I really appreciate the work you put in on these test my friend! i for one will buy the Natura onecoat

  • @jmtrudeau
    @jmtrudeau Год назад +2

    Couldn’t come out at a better time, my Rubio just ran out. Going to try that natura now. I’ve had my eye on it for a while but hadn’t seen much about it. Thanks for a great vid

  • @thomasnagy3011
    @thomasnagy3011 Год назад +4

    This is superb--hanks so much this presentation, Marc. ALSO--I strongly support you doing "theme" shows on Fridays--focusing on a particular tool, intervention, or some other aspect of working with wood. I've owned a Laguna bandsaw for 20 + years, and love it, but always think I can learn more (especially about getting brave enough to cut "free-handed", not using the fence). And even if I don't have the tool you were working on--like the jointer, for example, it is a pleasure to learn something new. Keep up the great work.

  • @theoddduck3254
    @theoddduck3254 7 месяцев назад

    I am an Osmo guy. This confirms my bias towards the best-looking. I very much appreciate you performing this test, and it will cause me to look at the alternatives.

  • @kencross25
    @kencross25 Год назад +1

    Wow! Great review and testing of the most popular hard wax oil comparison. Your performance was close to scientific evaluation as you can get. Thank you for this valuable information. I'm retired and disabled hobbyist and diy woodworker who has been previously influenced by popular RUclips channel providers, who usually didn't explain their affiliation with product sponsors. I have learned not to take every influencers' recommendation on products and second to do your own research. Now that the "Old Dogs" have gotten matched up we should see nothing but improvements from these companies. I'm willing to try the "New Dogs" out on some of my products to see what feedback will be from my customers.

  • @patrickbigras5232
    @patrickbigras5232 Год назад +1

    I like your reviews. Really feel objective without prejudice. You also take the time to explain the facts.

  • @vincevecchiarelli6732
    @vincevecchiarelli6732 Год назад +2

    Mark excellent job on breaking down the details of each product. Thank you for the facts

  • @dian3145
    @dian3145 Год назад +1

    Finishing is my Achilles heel! This vid lead to the wiping video, then to the finishing playlist. Can you say rabbit hole?! Thanks for all you do on my journey to being a better wood worker! You (and Oreo) rock.

    • @dian3145
      @dian3145 Год назад

      Sorry for the typos, can’t edit on my ipad for some reason.

  • @ajwilliams7757
    @ajwilliams7757 Год назад +3

    This is next level content! Thanks for all of your contributions to the woodworking community.

  • @BigHWorks
    @BigHWorks 5 месяцев назад

    I have now watched this review twice. Once when it first came out and again today when I wanted to review it again. Great work as usual Marc. You are highly credible and do not loan your reputation to others. I am about to order my first of a two component finish and this was very helpful. Thank you for all that you do! I truly appreciate your work. All the Best!

  • @michaelthoma
    @michaelthoma Год назад +1

    FYI, In the product development world, the decisions you made on what to test for was an informal DFMEA. The tests, ratings and documentation you did was a DVP&R. A good logical way to approach any test/evaluation.

  • @lorriedmussett4692
    @lorriedmussett4692 Год назад

    My big brother, got sick...GOT BETTER, regain his ability to " screw around in the garage" and short of it all....learned to love birds like his little sister, that's me and started making bird feeders, bird houses etc, b4 you know it his daughter set up an Etsy acct and he tinkers with wood building said feeders/ bird houses to custom things...consoles, decor inside & outside etc etc. So my point is...this was EXTREMELY helpful to him & I was simply pleased to receive a lengthy ( I'm not a fan of the "Shorts") video from you again! So thx you for all the info my brother is now moling over for his benefit and thx you for posting. ID love to see more from you in your shop like we used too! Nonetheless I'm not going anywhere...I've been a fan 4 years.

  • @jimrosson6702
    @jimrosson6702 Год назад +1

    Great video Marc very help information for the hoppiest woodworker with so many great options and so much insight. Thanks for sharing 👏👏👏

  • @TheWoodworkExperience
    @TheWoodworkExperience Год назад +1

    Thank you very much for that video. I have been using Osmo products for a couple of years but was considering trying other products. I think I will stay with what I know and trust. Brilliant content in this video.

  • @Grumpy_Guy
    @Grumpy_Guy Год назад +1

    I love that you included the "Cat Scan" for optimum results! :)

  • @elianese9319
    @elianese9319 5 месяцев назад

    Well worth the watch. Informative on many camps. Much appreciate the non biased and extensively thorough testing.

  • @thedookster4143
    @thedookster4143 Год назад +1

    Great set up, lots of questions answered and seemingly very un biased opinion leaving it to the results. For me, i think Rustic would be the one I'd have to try out. As a DIY guy looking to expand in the community, this would be an inexpensive yet quality product to jump on with. Thanks again for all your hard work and dedication to helping others succeed with more solid information.

  • @wmwalkerco
    @wmwalkerco Год назад +1

    Really really really awesome comparison. I will be ordering some of these to try. Thank you for introducing me to some of these.

  • @grubism
    @grubism Год назад +1

    The King is Dead!
    Thanks for putting in the grunt work to evaluate all of these new entries into the hardwax oil space. I've been particularly curious about the General Finishes offering, but it is good to see all of these examples put through their paces. After watching this I'll probably check out the Osmo... I've had good luck with the Polyx but have been missing the great sheen from a varnish, hopefully this two part option will hit both marks.

  • @harryjames2299
    @harryjames2299 3 месяца назад

    Thanks, especially for the repair test. Price is painful if using precolor, monocoat, and sheen enhancer. $211 for 350ml of each.

  • @AndreaArzensek
    @AndreaArzensek Год назад

    Rubio has left the chat.
    Thank you for your honest opinion about these finishes. Best regards from Croatia ❤

  • @mikemoore4443
    @mikemoore4443 Год назад +2

    Very interesting test. A good follow up test could be whether using the 2C finishes is worth the hassle considering the lack of protection they apply. Consider comparing 1C vs 2C finishes from the same brands. Also, cost per SF might be a more interesting metric since you got good results with Osmo after 1 coat. That would bring its cost down the the 2nd cheapest.

  • @lemon357lime
    @lemon357lime Год назад

    I love the effort that went into this video. I have always used 2 coats of Rubio on projects that are not handled much: picture frames/floating shelves/ect. When it comes to furniture though Matt Cremonas 5 coats of general finish armor seal is awesome. I'm not even bothered that its not as "serviceable" as other finishes.
    Relating to something important mentioned in this video, I always bring up durability when talking about different species of wood to clients. If a client has kids and wants a dining table made out of a wood that doesn't stand up to wear and tear, I really try to ask them what they like about the species and find a comparable one. The Wood species and use always dictates what finish I use.

  • @kevinmitchell7489
    @kevinmitchell7489 Год назад +2

    I’d like to see a test on finishes that are sympathetic with heat, loads of us have worktops ad tables that are beautiful in wood but only takes that one hot cup, or miss placed pan.
    You always put on great content, keep it up and good luck to you and your family in the future👍

  • @JamesSaga1
    @JamesSaga1 Год назад +10

    would love to see a durability test with the ceramic protection on top

    • @SamWanamaker1
      @SamWanamaker1 Год назад +1

      I’d just use poly at at that point. Easier and significantly cheaper.

    • @f.kieranfinney457
      @f.kieranfinney457 Год назад

      Durability testing should be real world use for a decade. Ceramic coatings work well on highly smooth surfaces like metal. I think unless you have a lacquer smooth surface, why bother?

  • @DRV_Woodworks
    @DRV_Woodworks 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for the thorough testing. however, Rubio requires sanding to no more than 120. You can sand to 150 with water popping. Any higher grit and you close the pores which will effect absorption. Not sure if you used the scotch bright buff pads to apply also🤔. Rubio is more of a matte natural finish to mimic natural wood look and feel with their stain. You get a much better sheen when applying sheen plus.
    What I might add too about Rubio is their options for color choices has far more selection available then the competition. Their sample fan deck too is awesome and impresses my clients and gives them alot of options to choose from. I feel like their color options too are more modern than the traditional choices you see with most stains including the ones you mentioned. For me as a woodworker I dont care so much about price, my primary concern is quality, ease of use and options for my clients to choose from. I have been using Rubio for some time now and the results highly impress my clients and to me thats all I need. I do thank you for bringing to light other competitors though but after researching the ones you mentioned, I prefer to stick with Rubio even though their more expensive.

  • @craighhg
    @craighhg Год назад +2

    Love the shirt!!! Jersey Boy here. Love you repping your Jersey family side!!!

  • @GearheadDaily
    @GearheadDaily Год назад +4

    Rubio will never be in trouble as long as I keep them afloat. Buying it like its going out of style LOL

  • @createaneutroncreateaneutr7433

    Excellent review! I am a "small shop" hobby woodworker and I have been very happy with the ease of use and results that I achieve with Rubio. However, now that I have watched this video, the next finish that I will give a go is Nature One Coat, based upon the information you presented. Thank you for being objective in your review, stating up front that you didn't want any finish to fail. Peace

  • @user-px8xd6wo4h
    @user-px8xd6wo4h 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much for this excellent review! Rubio is so expensive and I'm excited to try something with less cost. I love wood working and am still learning!

  • @MrNotURMailman
    @MrNotURMailman Год назад +1

    I really appreciate when you do these types of videos because over the years I have come to the conclusion that you put an honest effort into being subjective and I don’t worry that your results have been influenced by the desire to obtain or retain a sponsor. After seeing this video, I will most likely try the Rustic Lumber Finish when I finish my current can of Rubio.

    • @titosrevenger
      @titosrevenger Год назад

      I believe you meant to write "objective" rather than "subjective". 🙂

  • @jongmassey
    @jongmassey Год назад +2

    This is absolutely bloody brilliant, Mark, such a great bit of work

  • @PsycoRevolution
    @PsycoRevolution Год назад +2

    Thank you for the informative comparison!

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Год назад +2

    Fantastic testing, Marc! Thanks a bunch!!! 😃
    I hope some of them get here to Brazil soon!
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @ryan-wv9sr
    @ryan-wv9sr Год назад +1

    As a woodshop teacher from jersey I love the shirt! Pork roll > Taylor ham!!!

  • @markwarnow4483
    @markwarnow4483 Год назад +1

    Great comparison!! I've been using Rubio for a couple years, primarily because of its Black option and how it looks on oak. I'll check with the other manufacturers in the test, but I'm guessing I'll be sticking with Rubio fo this reason.

  • @kevinfillgrove8348
    @kevinfillgrove8348 Год назад

    I recently had a "rookie" shop error...I left a one use container of Rubio unsealed. It may have been a month in between projects and when I went to finish my epoxy infilled live edge ash computer desk...I had only hardened finish. Ticked off at myself...I went on Amazon and for the first time saw @NaturaOnecoat listing for a good deal less than my standby Rubio. So, I bought it. My Ash project finished very similarly to my other Rubio projects...so, I was satisfied. I did not do side by side comparisons. You made my day giving the overall winner to Natura. I feel better now about my mistake...because I don't know if I would have ever switched. Many thanks!

  • @PeakyBlinder71
    @PeakyBlinder71 4 месяца назад

    Totally brilliant video Marc. I'd really love to see you do a stain comparison of the compatible Hardwax oil finishes.

  • @jameslarkins7589
    @jameslarkins7589 Год назад +1

    Great information. I really appreciate how comprehensive your testing was!

  • @ChrisHornberger
    @ChrisHornberger Год назад

    I'm only a few minutes in to the video so far and 1). I'd not heard of most of these, even though I regularly visit my local Woodcraft and hard wood dealers. 2) I recently started buying Osmo (the non-hardener mix type) because I simply can NOT find Rubio anywhere locally, 3) checking Amazon I can many of these same day or next day, whereas I can't get Rubio in anything less than a week. Thank you for highlighting some of these even though I haven't gotten to the results yet. I've been frustrated with the lack of Rubio locally, and was worried (until I tried it) that the Osmo without the hardener wasn't going to cure or be workable/packable quickly enough. I was wrong. Thanks, Marc.

  • @matthysloedolff
    @matthysloedolff Год назад +1

    I found this sort of video quite interesting. I think it's the scientists in me liking the way you go through the data. Thanks, Marc.

  • @AngieWilliamsDesigns
    @AngieWilliamsDesigns Год назад +1

    As a hobbyist/small business I've never tried Rubio. Mostly because of the price. But I find this interesting and appreciate the information. It definitely makes me want to try one of these.

    • @typeafurniture
      @typeafurniture Год назад +1

      I was apprehensive to try them but it only takes a few tablespoons to coat a coffee table

  • @TaylerMade
    @TaylerMade Год назад +1

    i hate to say it, but as an old retired furniture maker my preferred finish is still lacquer or shellac. quick and easy easily repaired. maybe its an age thing, but over the years i have seen many finishes come and go like fashions. i prefer a finish that needs as little maintenance as possible for my clients. they never appreicate anything that requires lots of upkeep.

  • @anch1994
    @anch1994 Год назад +1

    As someone with cats I appreciate you including the cat-butt-scratch test 16:26

  • @anselringler
    @anselringler Год назад +1

    Great test and thanks for doing it. I've been using Rubio for years, and I love it, but there is no reason for it to be as expensive as it is. Based on this test, I'm tempted to try Natura however as a professional woodworker the years of tested experience I have with rubio makes me lean towards continuing use of it. A interesting test would be to take a kitchen countertop and finish it in rows with the different finishes. After months of actual use in an environment like that you could get a realistic idea of long term durability. But thanks for the test and I will look into Natura

    • @victoryak86
      @victoryak86 11 месяцев назад

      Would you use any of these finishes on a kitchen countertop? I would be afraid any one of them would not stand the test of time in such a location.

  • @1q2wnate
    @1q2wnate Год назад

    I think the most helpful test (for me, a hobbyist) was the “open can” test. Since my Rubio might sit for 3-6 months between uses, knowing some products seem to have a longer shelf life is very important. Thanks

  • @kentrichardson9070
    @kentrichardson9070 Год назад

    Great comparison. I’ve worked both as a wood flooring manufacturer and as a carpenter and furniture maker,for more than 35 years. Hard wax oils are a game changer. In the flooring business going from a film finish to HWOil changed everything. We started with Osmo but now use a product called Saicos. We use different methods of application;conveyer uv drying,spray,and wipe on. Both companies are German (I think). Although prices may seem high a little goes along way. Error on the less side. To much will look awful. Second and third coats require even smaller amounts. I have to say that I still prefer linseed oil and a lacquer top coat. Just old school I guess. Huge PS,dispose of applicators in water just like oil rags. Cheers

  • @Coccinelf
    @Coccinelf 3 месяца назад

    I was thinking of buying Rubio for outdoor furniture (with UV protection) but now I will look into it in case there are other brands I don't know about. It's so pricy in Canada!

  • @mikeamboy7292
    @mikeamboy7292 Год назад +2

    Great video, very through review. That said, I am still using shellac French polish on application of low wear, high sheen. For higher wear I use lacquer, pre cat lacquer and plain old polyurethane. Sometimes a genuine varnish. I might give these a look at some point. Thanks!

    • @grantman1148
      @grantman1148 Год назад

      Curious as to what you call a 'genuine varnish.' Which brand(s) would that be? Thanks.

  • @victoryak86
    @victoryak86 11 месяцев назад

    Wow that was just the best analysis of these finishes probably ever put on RUclips. Very thorough, fair and honest. I’ll go back to this more than once in the future. I have to say that the Rubio hype was always sort of suspect to me.

  • @joewilson4436
    @joewilson4436 Год назад +1

    Great video. I love that you talked about these 2C finishes setting up. I have wasted so much money on cans of Monocoat that set up because I didn’t use them fast enough. I pretty much need to buy a new can for every project unless I'm going through a can of finish every few days - so I tend to buy the smallest quantity that I can. That, plus the fact that 2C finishes are annoying and I always seem to mix too little or too much, have pushed me towards single coat wax/oil finishes with long shelf lives. My favorite so far is Tried & True Varnish Oil - it seems to last forever in the can, builds a really nice finish after a few coats, and is very easy to apply.
    It would be great to see a video with a few of the popular 2C finishes and a few 1C finishes like Odie’s Oil, Tried & True, and Osmo PolyX. I’ve done some tests myself and found that Monocoat tends to protect better than 1C finishes but the difference wasn’t big enough for me to deal with the drawbacks.
    PS: I haven’t used Osmo K2 but Osmo PolyX with 3 coats looks soooo much better than Monocoat - this is subjective of course like you mention, but man, it’s a night and day difference for me.

    • @Cwyrm
      @Cwyrm Год назад

      Yesss, I really wish that the osmo polyx and some of the Odie’s products had been included. I’ve used a few of them as well as the main osmo oil and Rubio, but I’d really love to see how they repair in an overall controlled experiment like this. It especially feels like the Odie’s oil products don’t have enough good tests and comparisons that you can find online - which is a shame cause it definitely has the longest shelf life in my experience, which is nice, and its my favorite finish to have to repair even though I feel like it isn’t as scuff resistant as the others. And I’d almost want a whole set of tests for just the few mainline Odie’s products, ‘cause I still feel like I’m just going off of vibes when I look at the main Odie’s oil vs the wood butter etc, (I feel like the wood butter might be the secret king tho).

  • @hardrout17
    @hardrout17 Год назад +1

    I really appreciated this Hardwax oil comparison ! Thank you for sharing :) It would be great to have information about the sustainability of material used, but thats a dream. Rubio set the price they wanted because they were alone for so long time, now there is other brand in this game. Thoses are good products, but im 95% sure the margin are still really high. No new player want to ruins the game... yet. 100+$/L of finish is expensive.

  • @stevevmanbresnan
    @stevevmanbresnan Год назад +1

    Great unbiased analysis and awesome information for fellow woodworkers! I honestly didn’t know about three of these products. Thanks Marc for your due diligence and sharing of knowledge. This channel (IMO) is a must for woodworkers.

  • @prspastor
    @prspastor 3 месяца назад

    I think Rubio has some new products and some small changes in the last year. Rubio now has a sheen enhancer called “Sheen Plus.” The smaller can is now 390 ml rather than 350 ml for $59. Sheen Plus is on my list to try out.

  • @thomasbalentine836
    @thomasbalentine836 Год назад +1

    I make all of my own finishes. It's cheaper, a lot of fun, and tickles the meticulous scientist inside of me. I am Constantly tweeking my recipes and taking very detailed notes. That might sound like hell to some folks but I swear it's 100% worth dabbling with. Its gratifying work and in the end you know so much more about the nature of your ingredients and the nature of wood itself. I challenge everyone to give it a quick try. You may look back at videos like this one day and be very glad that you did!

    • @victoryak86
      @victoryak86 11 месяцев назад

      That’s very cool and smart. I imagine you can get the same basic ingredients or others and find comparable or better results to the expensive finishes. Once you find one or more recipes u like you could likely do it for a fraction of the cost. 👍👍

  • @mhaz49
    @mhaz49 Год назад

    I started using Osmo 12 years ago when a friend - professional furniture maker - showed me some and how to use it. This is the standard Osmo hard oil, not 2 component. I liked it then and still like it. My only complaint has been the relatively short shelf life here in New Mexico. The summer heat quickens the curing in the can so a fair amount gets wasted. Even with Bloxigen and turning the can upside down, the shelf life is short. I'll continue using it for its ease of application and good appearance after final buffing.

  • @peaksandvalleysbuildingco
    @peaksandvalleysbuildingco Год назад +1

    Dude I’m rollin at the Birdcage clip😂😂😂 “TANNINS”

  • @joliekarno
    @joliekarno Год назад +1

    I'm delighted to have an alternative to Rubio. I'll try the natura and possibly save enough to buy a house.

  • @JointerMark
    @JointerMark Год назад

    I just tried Rubio fir the first time this weekend. I found it hard to spread and didn't like the schene on it after i was done. Actually finished to a different finish after my first attempts. I really appreciated your comparisons of the different finishes. I will certainly keep this video in mind for future projects!

  • @neilkarstetter164
    @neilkarstetter164 Год назад +1

    Absolutely phenomenal review.... Thorough, scientific and pleasing to watch/listen. Great work!