@@jimmy89758 Infact Siegfried is the weakest in his servant form.Alive Siegfried had a much higher mana rank and a Dragon core to boot.Meaning that he could fight artoria on par.
try u got it heres a list fate grand order first order fate grand order solomon fate grand order babylonia fate grand order strange fake fate grand order epic of remnant fate grand order cosmos in the lost belt fate type redline fate extra fate extella
@@38Camando depends fate type redline, fate requim, fate strange fake all all mangas i believe fate extra is show on Netflix and fate extella is a video game and so is fate grand order here are some links to like trailers for these shows and mangas (fate strange fake ruclips.net/video/rh11Pmesr2Y/видео.html) (fate requiem ruclips.net/video/0qz8dC-tszw/видео.html) (fate type red line ruclips.net/video/tJa1t7_Fc8M/видео.html) (fate grand order Solomon ruclips.net/video/dLOC6OW3FEs/видео.html) (fate grand order cosmos in the lost belt) (fate extra ruclips.net/video/vmoXfJ8eniA/видео.html) and finally ( fate extella ruclips.net/video/PO2w29PwoFk/видео.html) hope this helped
@@durrangodsgrief6503actually it’s the opposite. Since the real Seigfreid doesn’t have Galvinism, his mana regen is notoriously poor, meaning he wouldn’t even be able to keep up with Mordred. Both Seig and Seigfreid have the Armor of Fafnir already equipped. Now if this was Sigurd that’s a very different story. Mordred would definitely get cooked.
@@durrangodsgrief6503 To add to the comment above, Siegfrieds weakness is a leaf-shaped spot on his back. Once Siegfried used his NP, Mordred and Sisigo could easily plan to get behind him. Next, Mordred would agree to use some underhanded tactics when necessary.
More like: The edgy-tomboy-waifu we wanted as a protagonist since she is an edgy-tomboy-waifu who is easy to understand VS The one who has a real reason to be a protagonist but too many people don't bother trying to understand him since he is not an edgy-tomboy-waifu and his feelings aren't spoonfed... I love Mordred but she is unfit to be Apocrypha protagonist for thematic reasons
@wake6000 Many fans I have seen wanted either Mordred or both of them as protagonists. Either way they couldn't work as Apocrypha's main characters simply because they don't fit its theme, but I don't see anything wrong with how they and their stories were used, they found their answers and left in a very satisfying way, other complaints are just fans fetishizing Mordred or never looking beyond the tip of their nose.
Siegfried gets hard nerfed in Holy Grail Wars cause they lower his Dragon Core (Heart) to its lowest output. His sword techniques are one step below that of Karna's who is considered eqivalent of that to the Gods but have long trancended Humanity. His body would show traits of an incarnated Dragon Kin like Wings, Horns and a Tail, and all of these are boost to his Dragon Cores effectiveness. When having the full access to his Dragon Core his usage of Balmung was EX ranked and could reach the Stratosphere, litterally. The Holy Grail System Nerfs him insanely similarly to how Artoria does not get Avalon her True Noble Phantasm on summoning. Sieg had access to the full power and knowledge of Siegfried and used his techniques and skills properly. Except he hadn't steeled himself to Kill a target and therefore held back unconsciously, Mordred states give him another chance to ready himself and he would be at her level and then exceed her. But even that status is still short of the Living Hero Siegfried.
Whyy do I have a fantasy that arturia and gilgamesh and a child and this is her because she acts justtt like gilgamesh like "imitation " and "mongrels" but fights like arturia obviously. But imma keep this fantasy lol
You know right before this she fought Frankenstein and survived the one hundred percent noble phantasm. And then had to deal with a saber phantasm. That's two phantasm by the 2 strongest classes also sieg was fortified by the command spell as well.
Took on and defeated Frankenstein, Astolfo, Sieg clone, had even fought and nearly defeated Assassin, and Archer. later fights Spartacus, and even kills Semiramis in her hanging gardens Noble Phantasm which was supposed to make her invincible. She isn't weak.
@@rafaelmontejocortes4620 huh? Dead count shapeshiter doesn't boost, it only transforms him to siegfried for 3 minutes. And also by no means mordred is weak she's really just a bad match up to siegfried who slays dragons and has better np. And also no, she wasn't tired, servants don't need rest, sleep or food, all they need is magical energy and they can run for days on end if they want, take gawain for example in fate extra, dude spend lots of years with only sleep, a view of flowers and a good sip of fine tea every now and then. the only reason artoria does so is because shirou is horrible as a master henc she needs to replenish her mana on her own. Also to survive Frans noble phantasm, sisigo had to use a command spell to boost her unless she would have been vaporized by blasted tree(read the manga). And sorry to say, but if mordred can't even beat a "Fake" siegfried even with a proper supply of magical energy, a continuous use of her mana burst and another boost command and unleashing the sword the killed the king of knights. Yep seem pretty desapointing huh? And that's saying something.
@@vartner8051 According to the LN, Mordred does get weakened after taking Fran's NP. And Kairi's boost only let her fight at her best condition, not strengthen her in any ways. And Sieg isn't weaker than Siegfried, in this video he's just still doesn't used to using Siegfried's power, in his 3rd transformation he's literally stronger than servant Siegfried (not living Siegfried), cuz Sieg is a walking mana sources so he can just spamming Balmung while Siegfried can't do anything like that.
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2:55
"There is no rule stating that a fake can't surpass the original."
That's Shiro's line in UBW
Well...if he's got luck and the original got too much spare time so he waits for him to catch up and fuck him up real good🙄👍👍😏
@Noct Lucis 🙄?
@Noct Lucis ahem..well,you got a point there,I just made a comment. coz it was unexpected to get a vedio recommendation..😌
Archer emiya vs mordred who wins
1:40 give me chills. Literally my favorite part of the series
*Oh boy. I'm warning you. If Kriemhild sees this, there's gonna be bloodbath in Chaldea.*
What’s crazy is that Siegfried is at his weakest state and is still keeping up with a command seal amped mordered
but he had an inherent advantage because of Mordred has an aspect of the dragon meanwhile Siegfried's whole thing is a about how he killed a dragon
@@jimmy89758 Sieg doesn't make full use of that skill.
@@jimmy89758 Infact Siegfried is the weakest in his servant form.Alive Siegfried had a much higher mana rank and a Dragon core to boot.Meaning that he could fight artoria on par.
@@SiegfriedFafnirsbane doesn't change the fact he used it
@@SiegfriedFafnirsbane most servants are stronger when there alive and not sorted into classes
4:28 for the cultures!!!
....Honestly, this is one of my *FAVORITE* moments in all of the animated Fate series.
Dammit I want a fate series involving the past lives of Artoria and mordred!
try u got it heres a list
fate grand order first order
fate grand order solomon
fate grand order babylonia
fate grand order strange fake
fate grand order epic of remnant
fate grand order cosmos in the lost belt
fate type redline
fate extra
fate extella
@@hesklairvoyant wow I have seen a portion of this list but several I have never heard of, are they manga stories or films I probably never heard of?
@@38Camando depends fate type redline, fate requim, fate strange fake all all mangas i believe fate extra is show on Netflix and fate extella is a video game and so is fate grand order here are some links to like trailers for these shows and mangas (fate strange fake ruclips.net/video/rh11Pmesr2Y/видео.html) (fate requiem ruclips.net/video/0qz8dC-tszw/видео.html) (fate type red line ruclips.net/video/tJa1t7_Fc8M/видео.html) (fate grand order Solomon ruclips.net/video/dLOC6OW3FEs/видео.html) (fate grand order cosmos in the lost belt) (fate extra ruclips.net/video/vmoXfJ8eniA/видео.html) and finally ( fate extella ruclips.net/video/PO2w29PwoFk/видео.html) hope this helped
@@38Camando Omg i miss read that so bad i thought u said that doesn't involve there past lives these are the ones that do not lmaoooo
@@hesklairvoyant oh I see np bro
An army breaker vs a dragon slayer... They're both about equal
Nah if it was the real Siegfried mordred would get clapped he weapon us weaker and Siegfrieds immortality makes him immune to her attacks
-Siegfred is nothing without giorgio-
@@durrangodsgrief6503actually it’s the opposite. Since the real Seigfreid doesn’t have Galvinism, his mana regen is notoriously poor, meaning he wouldn’t even be able to keep up with Mordred. Both Seig and Seigfreid have the Armor of Fafnir already equipped.
Now if this was Sigurd that’s a very different story. Mordred would definitely get cooked.
@@durrangodsgrief6503 To add to the comment above, Siegfrieds weakness is a leaf-shaped spot on his back. Once Siegfried used his NP, Mordred and Sisigo could easily plan to get behind him. Next, Mordred would agree to use some underhanded tactics when necessary.
Alternative Title:
The Protagonist We Wanted
Vs
The Protagonist We Got
Mordred : C
Sieg is plot armor, reason why I hated him, mordred was just badass and we liked her
More like:
The edgy-tomboy-waifu we wanted as a protagonist since she is an edgy-tomboy-waifu who is easy to understand VS
The one who has a real reason to be a protagonist but too many people don't bother trying to understand him since he is not an edgy-tomboy-waifu and his feelings aren't spoonfed...
I love Mordred but she is unfit to be Apocrypha protagonist for thematic reasons
@@gideonragnason6706I don’t think people want mordred to be the protagonist, but rather Kairi
@wake6000 Many fans I have seen wanted either Mordred or both of them as protagonists.
Either way they couldn't work as Apocrypha's main characters simply because they don't fit its theme, but I don't see anything wrong with how they and their stories were used, they found their answers and left in a very satisfying way, other complaints are just fans fetishizing Mordred or never looking beyond the tip of their nose.
“If it frightens you, swing the sword at it…”
OOOH NOOO THEY CROSSED THE STREAMS!
This I didn't expect when I first saw it.
This is favorite fate because the main character fights for himself
Man, leave it to the studio behind SAO to make the first season slap and the second milktoast at best
Bow to the King
the false king
I do it for the memes even a fake can surpass the original
@@SupernaturalDetective not in the this case
Speaking off, Artoria's Early Animation is almost here. 😊
It’s funny as Siegfried himself was a King. A King vs King.
Great Clip
To be honest, I'm pretty sure this not siegfried full power. This guy never fight zero and he had no wish.
Huh?
Yeah Siegfried is nerf with sieg body
@@mathieu9236 nah Siegfried was nerfed in the war over all
Siegfried gets hard nerfed in Holy Grail Wars cause they lower his Dragon Core (Heart) to its lowest output. His sword techniques are one step below that of Karna's who is considered eqivalent of that to the Gods but have long trancended Humanity. His body would show traits of an incarnated Dragon Kin like Wings, Horns and a Tail, and all of these are boost to his Dragon Cores effectiveness. When having the full access to his Dragon Core his usage of Balmung was EX ranked and could reach the Stratosphere, litterally. The Holy Grail System Nerfs him insanely similarly to how Artoria does not get Avalon her True Noble Phantasm on summoning.
Sieg had access to the full power and knowledge of Siegfried and used his techniques and skills properly. Except he hadn't steeled himself to Kill a target and therefore held back unconsciously, Mordred states give him another chance to ready himself and he would be at her level and then exceed her. But even that status is still short of the Living Hero Siegfried.
@@adamchu2001 About the stratosphere, where's it stated?
Whyy do I have a fantasy that arturia and gilgamesh and a child and this is her because she acts justtt like gilgamesh like "imitation " and "mongrels" but fights like arturia obviously. But imma keep this fantasy lol
Her fighting style is way differemt from arturia
In the Fate canon lore Mordred is the "child" of Morgan le Fay and Artoria Pendragon.
She's nothing like Gilgamesh. Gil is just a big arrogant asshole, while Mordred hide her self-deprecation by acting arrogant, that's a big different.
Eww. Gross. Not to disrespect anyone who likes that pairing, but ugh 😫
Ewww .
2:51 "That's rich, coming from a tin can with anger issues"
Imagine this could happen to mr shirou
Fave thing ever
Doesn't this technically make seig the first pseudo servant?
00:09-Sieg pulls the Sword Similar to Arthur's Excalibur Pulled from the Stone
Same
jesse we need to cook
Nice
HAHAHAHAHA. Astolfo's voice almost made me turn to the dark side
Recognize one of your knights.
What ep?
I totally ship those two as Morfried
there like shirou emiya and archer
Just saying, mordred is amped on the servant equivalent of steroids, and sieg is hardly together
shes also has dragons blood making sieg a counter to her with balmung
Boy with processed AIDS vs girl with daddy issues
How gorgeous
Shakespeare is Zhongli??
Dont Forget:
Jeanne d'Arc is Venti
Jack the Ripper/Mash Kyrielight is Ayaka
Sieg is Aether
Semiramis and Atalante is Beidou
Wait if it's area explosion then what's the point to shoot at close range🤣🤣🤣
why the sword looks like the abyss watchers sword from dark souls 3?
Ayo Aether?
3:33
ost at 4:43 what is it?
The main theme
@@scifirealism5943 I need the name please
Fate apocrypha ost #3. Battle
Mordred's pretty weak if she can't even take out a fake while she had a buff on.
You know right before this she fought Frankenstein and survived the one hundred percent noble phantasm. And then had to deal with a saber phantasm. That's two phantasm by the 2 strongest classes also sieg was fortified by the command spell as well.
Sorry for the rant
Took on and defeated Frankenstein, Astolfo, Sieg clone, had even fought and nearly defeated Assassin, and Archer. later fights Spartacus, and even kills Semiramis in her hanging gardens Noble Phantasm which was supposed to make her invincible. She isn't weak.
@@rafaelmontejocortes4620 huh? Dead count shapeshiter doesn't boost, it only transforms him to siegfried for 3 minutes. And also by no means mordred is weak she's really just a bad match up to siegfried who slays dragons and has better np. And also no, she wasn't tired, servants don't need rest, sleep or food, all they need is magical energy and they can run for days on end if they want, take gawain for example in fate extra, dude spend lots of years with only sleep, a view of flowers and a good sip of fine tea every now and then. the only reason artoria does so is because shirou is horrible as a master henc she needs to replenish her mana on her own. Also to survive Frans noble phantasm, sisigo had to use a command spell to boost her unless she would have been vaporized by blasted tree(read the manga). And sorry to say, but if mordred can't even beat a "Fake" siegfried even with a proper supply of magical energy, a continuous use of her mana burst and another boost command and unleashing the sword the killed the king of knights. Yep seem pretty desapointing huh? And that's saying something.
@@vartner8051 According to the LN, Mordred does get weakened after taking Fran's NP. And Kairi's boost only let her fight at her best condition, not strengthen her in any ways. And Sieg isn't weaker than Siegfried, in this video he's just still doesn't used to using Siegfried's power, in his 3rd transformation he's literally stronger than servant Siegfried (not living Siegfried), cuz Sieg is a walking mana sources so he can just spamming Balmung while Siegfried can't do anything like that.
mordred not a king
This mc is the most lamest and most plot armour character I ever seen ! Ms is the reason I give 7 out of 6