It'd be NICE if It Would STOP... Fixing Fork Truck Brakes! ~ RESCUING a 1960's Fork Truck ~ Part 3

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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
  • It's time to continue getting this old Fork Truck ready for battle!
    I'd like to be able to stop, & it would be nice if I could figure out where all the hydraulic fluid is going!
    Today we're going to:
    - Completely tear the brakes apart & get them working
    - Troubleshoot a couple BIG hydraulic leaks
    - Clean up the electrical wiring harness
    - Test it all out and see what other problems need to be taken care of
    This machine was EXTREMELY well built and is gonna be a WORK horse here at the shop when I'm done with it!
    ~
    First off this is a late 60's Hyster (not a 70's, I was wrong) H60C Fork Truck that has a lifting capacity of 7000lbs. This machine has a 6 cylinder Gasoline F227 Continental Flat Head Engine. It has a HystaMatic transmission, which is basically a hydra-static style transmission, meaning it's an automatic and has no clutch, which is good and bad! It has air tires in the front and they look like they are holding air just fine!
    Now for the bad!
    The previous owners took out the spark plugs and for whatever reason they NEVER PUT THEM BACK IN! Then the machine was stored OUTDOORS where the weather and mice decided to fill up the top of the motor with rain and NASTY mouse nests!
    As of recently, it was given to the guy I got it from due to it's issues. Since then he decided he didn't have the time to spend to make the machine usable again, and he was planning to scrap it!
    That's where I came in, and I'm betting the motor is LOCKED UP!!
    Let's find out if this 42 year old forklift is even salvageable and whether or not I should spend the time it might take to save it, we both know I WANT TO!!
    I've been looking for a forklift in this size range, especially one that can drive on gravel / uneven surfaces, and I REALLY hope this machine is saveable!
    Let's find out!
    ~
    If you have any suggestions, questions, or comments, please leave them below!
    Thanks for stopping by, I truly appreciate your support!
    #ForkTruckRescue #WillitStop #SalvageWorkshop

Комментарии • 865

  • @SalvageWorkshop
    @SalvageWorkshop  3 года назад +94

    Thank you SOOOO much for checking out the video working on this 1969 Fork Truck! I hope you consider subscribing if you haven't already! I won't let you regret it!
    There are TONS of big updates on current Projects & Updates here at the Shop Coming SOON on the channel! I've also got some EXCITING new projects that I'm REALLY excited about here at Salvage Workshop, so you won't want to miss out on those!! Should be a BLAST!
    Also if you haven't already, check out the previous parts of this Old Fork Truck Rescue! It's crazy that this thing is even able to run!
    Part 1: 1969 Fork Truck Headed for the SCRAP YARD! ~ ruclips.net/video/HD2l6OgpQs4/видео.html
    Part 2: Will the Fork Truck RUN? & Can I DRIVE it HOME? ~ ruclips.net/video/YbEDHNzc3kg/видео.html

    • @Wallie2004
      @Wallie2004 3 года назад +2

      Call Chris's carb shop in dayton Ohio. He's well known around here for fixing carbs that parts can't be found.

    • @stephenhoffman1956
      @stephenhoffman1956 3 года назад

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    • @cdoublejj
      @cdoublejj 3 года назад +2

      Maybe holley will sponsor you with a sniper EFI kit lololol

    • @Astinsan
      @Astinsan 3 года назад +2

      Just replace all the hydraulic lines.. this is what happens when these guys sit. You should pull the hydraulic rams off too and ether rebuild them yourself or take them to a company that does it. The exposed boot will be dry and cracked. You will just destroy the inner sleve o-rings when debris is taken past the boot. Being in the position of a supervisor in a warehouse.. every mandatory holiday I would not be looking forward to starting the cold equipment when we got back. These machines do not like sitting. Believe it or not the electric reach trucks were the worse. When they get cool they acted like geriatrics.

    • @meheszmezesarpadzsigmond6048
      @meheszmezesarpadzsigmond6048 3 года назад +1

      #3

  • @131dyana
    @131dyana 3 года назад +33

    I used to sit and watch my late Husband work on our cars. We could not afford a late model car so we always bought old cars and he fixed them so me and the kids could get to school and shopping. Some times he would work all weekend just to get us on the road safely. Watching you is really nice for me. Thank you for sharing with us.

    • @TheVirtual3D
      @TheVirtual3D 3 года назад +5

      Sounds like a wonderful man

  • @williamwoodfork627
    @williamwoodfork627 3 года назад +21

    I like how you don’t pretend to know everything and admit when your not sure. Its nice to see humble people, who ask questions to their audience. Keep up the great videos.

  • @WatchWesWork
    @WatchWesWork 3 года назад +175

    Seems like it idles way too high. Either the low speed circuit is not working, or the idle screw needs to be adjusted way down. I'd say as long as the transmission functions at all you should consider yourself lucky! Good luck on the mast cylinder. Those are fun!

    • @TgWags69
      @TgWags69 3 года назад +5

      I lied....I came here instead of back to Fitzee lol...I was going to suggest he pop over to your channel and watch your forklift brake video, but here you are in person!

    • @livinglikarockstar
      @livinglikarockstar 3 года назад +16

      Correct, turn the idle screw all the way in see if it stumbles, if so it's working, if not it's clogged. Use a vac gauge and adjust to peak vac measurement as demonstrated on many others videos. The carb is probably fine, they don't go bad if rebuilt properly... unless the throttle plate get's worn, leaks and or creates a vac leak, didn't look like it though. Up size the jets or run non ethanol mid range octane fuel, use an additive depending on the heat range plug used. My preference is Holley's been using them for 40 years. Parts are cheap, plentiful and will be around for years. Find a 2 barrel plate that matches or have an adapter plate cnc'd or make one your self. Also, if it bogs, give it some timing or check all your advance hardware. Happy trails, Cheers!

    • @thesmallenginekid
      @thesmallenginekid 3 года назад +29

      I’m trying to study for AP tests but it’s just one good vid after another. Andrew Camarata, Watch Wes Work, Salvage Workshop.

    • @BobSmith-iu3hx
      @BobSmith-iu3hx 3 года назад +12

      @@thesmallenginekid The mechanic that runs the RUclips channel " Western Truck and Tractor Repair " is a very good mechanic also, I watch this channel all the time.

    • @captaintoyota3171
      @captaintoyota3171 3 года назад +1

      I agree with Wes

  • @TerryLawrence001
    @TerryLawrence001 Год назад +1

    This rescue just gets more satisfying as time goes by!

  • @galeschmidt3016
    @galeschmidt3016 3 года назад +61

    To remove the axle shafts after removing nuts smack it several times with a sledge hammer. Hit it right in the center like you are driving the axle into the housing and it will bounce back loose. To us old guys those are brake shoes, brake pads go on disc brakes. You do good work.

    • @willcolonjr9738
      @willcolonjr9738 3 года назад +4

      Very truth. Also once the cones have moved away from the axle use a thin flathead screw driver, push it into the cone grove to help spread the cone open and make it easier to slide it off the stud.

  • @GaryDavis-ir6fh
    @GaryDavis-ir6fh Год назад +1

    no matter what anyone says you just cant beat a good old machine,back in the day they used to build things to last, these old beasts will still be going strong long after some of these newer ones bite the dust.

  • @chrisvos2721
    @chrisvos2721 3 года назад +8

    Once you get the lift part fixed on the HYSTER, would be a great tool for lifting the CAT peices and fixing all those heavy parts. Great work and i would hire you to fix anything mechanical like that. Am impressed.

  • @johnpullman3227
    @johnpullman3227 3 года назад +48

    2 things you want for sure on a forklift. A transmission that does not instantly engage so you can gently ease into and out of pallets AND and the emergency brake you can set every time you get off to do something so it doesn't run over your foot.

    • @SpawnofChaos
      @SpawnofChaos 3 года назад +8

      I’ve only ever used an electric forklift but I was thinking the same thing. The electric one you could ease into movement using the throttle pedal; the same idea would apply here for sure. Having a forklift that basically slams into motion is a great way to dump what you’re carrying all over the place.

    • @Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc
      @Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc 3 года назад +2

      That's y u have a inching pedal on gas/diesel/petrol to slowly disengage/re-engage the gearbox while simultaneously applying or releasing the brakes when going to a pallet ot side of a truck some electrics do engage quite vigorously when in F/R

    • @SpawnofChaos
      @SpawnofChaos 3 года назад +2

      @@Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc I didn't know that, thank you :) Never hurts to learn new things.

    • @Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc
      @Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc 3 года назад +1

      @@SpawnofChaos no worries mate been driving forklifts since I was 18 over ten years on all fuel type be if u press the inching pedal all the way disengages the clutch on the gearbox and applies the brakes that why ur brake pedal is floppy when inching pedal is to the floor I never use the brake pedal allways just the accelerator and inch pedal hysters the more modern ish ones use two pedals an inching pedal and acceleration pedal 👍 but I had a 2018/2019 doosan 25 👍 lpg turbo could go 20mph

    • @Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc
      @Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc 3 года назад +1

      @@SpawnofChaos plus with the inching pedal pressed in u can give it some throttle to make the hydraulics work faster 👍without going fast wen entering a pallet ot unloading a truck

  • @robinfillis4192
    @robinfillis4192 3 года назад +36

    Wheel bearing adjustment: fully tighten then back of 1 flat of the nut which will give the correct amount of play in the bearings!
    To tight a bearing will fail . Bearings will expand. Wenn hot if there is no play in the bearing it will sieze up !!

    • @johnpullman3227
      @johnpullman3227 3 года назад +6

      I'll second that about over tightening bearings. Unless the manufacturer specifies a certain preload, always leave some play to allow lubricant recoat every revolution. Barring getting moisture into the hub those bearings should last the life of the machine.

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 года назад +11

      That's good to know! I wasn't sure on that, and I'm NOT working from a manual or anything! I will DEFINITELY loosen those up ASAP! I don't want to cause an issue or have to replace them anytime soon!

    • @robinfillis4192
      @robinfillis4192 3 года назад +4

      Wenn we Service brakes in Germany the inner circumference of the brake drum is measured, every brake drum has a maximum wear limit If the circumference is larger than the allowed tolerance the brake drum is renewed!
      Now to brake linings. I would tend to say that those fitted have reached there wear limit. I don’t now what is available in the USA in Germany if the drums are within tolerance we can re line the brake shoes with 3 different size linings! I
      Don’t forget by adjusting the brake linings out to the drum the piston on your brake cylinder also move outwards !

    • @slateslavens
      @slateslavens 3 года назад +6

      Also, you can usually flip that ring (with the holes in it) over and get a slightly different fit. So if you stick it on and the hole is half off the pin, flip the ring over and it should go right on.

    • @hy78an
      @hy78an 3 года назад

      Jupp, thighten untill the bearing is really thight then back of until it mowes smothly, that way you settle the bearing, it is what I was thought by oldtimers 40+ years ago.

  • @incubatork
    @incubatork 3 года назад +1

    A good cheap way to clean out rust/gunk from cylindrical holes is a home made flap wheel, a short rod with a slit in one end deep enough to fit the width of the emery tape you intend to use. Put the other end into a drill or die grinder and wrap it up with the grit outside, just put it in the hole and spin the drill/grinder, the finer the grit the better the polish. Will work in holes from about 1/2" up over, smaller if your gentle. Looking forward to more Big Red videos.

  • @brucejones5879
    @brucejones5879 3 года назад +3

    I always enjoy watching and learning something I will never do.

  • @usethenoodle
    @usethenoodle 3 года назад +2

    This young man has an amazing work ethic and no end of passion for the mechanical arts. Were he my son, I would be so proud. His father has to be thrilled.

  • @onebadsavage26
    @onebadsavage26 3 года назад +78

    No grease in the wheel bearings, not going to hurt anything but not necessary. They get their lubrication from diff oil. Your bearings are WAY too tight. Should be good and snug then back off 1/4 turn. Just don't want any free play.

    • @sewage111
      @sewage111 3 года назад +7

      I learned that 1/4 turn back-off also many years ago.

    • @Joe_Not_A_Fed
      @Joe_Not_A_Fed 3 года назад +8

      Yeah. Same here. With these tapered bearings, too tight is a sure way to burn them out before their time. I learned the 'snug the nut tight and loose while spinning the drum to take up the slack. Then tighten it firmly (don't go crazy) then back off 1/4-ish turn', technique.

    • @willcolonjr9738
      @willcolonjr9738 3 года назад +7

      You are right on the grease on the wheel bearings, but this unit has 2 seals meaning that the oil from the differential does never get to the bearing. Our lift at work of set up the same way, and the bearings need to be greased. Another thing is that this unit is not build to speed down the road so for the oil to reach the floating hub bearings it would be nearly impossible since the speed of the differential will have to be more than 5 miles per hour to actually move the oil down the selves and into the floating hubs. And yes them bearings will be screaming soon if not backed out properly.

    • @donpampel3332
      @donpampel3332 3 года назад +2

      I have to agree. Way to tight. good thing this only goes about 5 mph

    • @macmaniacal
      @macmaniacal 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, when it was removed, it was less than hand tight. 9:51

  • @ttyR265
    @ttyR265 3 года назад +37

    When using that plastic wiring loom, I usually start in the middle and work out to either end, that way you don't have as long a length to keep spinning around the cabling.

  • @nodak81
    @nodak81 3 года назад +2

    Really enjoying this project. You do things the way I like to, making things nice and neat. I can't stand having wires laying everywhere, grease coating everything, etc. Very satisfying to watch it come together.

  • @Jameson4327
    @Jameson4327 3 года назад +32

    Putting the plastic loom on the wires was very smart. It’s looks so much better with it. What’s happening with Old Red? You did a good job on getting the Old Hyster up and running. Until next time.

    • @mdouglaswray
      @mdouglaswray 3 года назад +3

      Another reason to make your gear look good - you’ll care more about it

  • @weldingman57
    @weldingman57 3 года назад

    Tapping the fuel pump off of the coil reduces the available voltage to the pump. There appears to be a drop down resistor ahead of the coil. Normally 6 volts output. I have also ran a 12 volt wire off of the starter solenoid to supply 12 volts to the coil for a short time , helps with cold start situations. Love your channel. Been wrenching on this old stuff since before you were born.

  • @sc1338
    @sc1338 11 месяцев назад +1

    Seeing old machines working warms my heart for some reason lol

  • @russellrico1378
    @russellrico1378 Год назад

    I sure do enjoy watching you work on your machines. I joined the Navy and made a 30 year career but watching you makes me wish I had done what you are doing. But since I can’t, I’m living it through you. Keep up the good work.

  • @Ivc406
    @Ivc406 Год назад

    Matt,drove one of these when worked for navy,they are bomb proof if you keep on top of maintenance not a problem to you,keep rescuing these machine's regards🛠️👍🇬🇧

  • @larrywerring9674
    @larrywerring9674 3 года назад +17

    I love how much I'm learning from your videos. That reminds me, I once attended a course where a sign that read MATD was posted over the door as a constant reminder. I'm happy to see that you believe strongly and practice meticulous attention to detail (MATD). If you're going to do it, might as well do it well.

  • @slaheddinesaadani7476
    @slaheddinesaadani7476 3 года назад +5

    i'm from Tunisia, and your channel is in the top of my favourite short list! I apreciate what you do, Keep working on your projects and let us see more videos...

  • @douglasmorrison9098
    @douglasmorrison9098 Год назад

    You are correct in Finding the problem first and fixing it and then wash and clean

  • @gsengineering284
    @gsengineering284 3 года назад +1

    Your lift leak may also have a plugged return line from the rod end. It is just a vent to tank on a forklift lift cylinder. Obviously , the piston seal is shot, too.I worked on an H100B at work. It had a stick shift 3 speed each way. This thing was so bad it was missing the rod for 1st gear from the shifter to the transmission. The guy we got it from didn't even realize it was missing low gear. They brought it to me for brakes, which needed master cylinder wheel cylinders and shoes, but the engine was so worn that it wouldn't run. After the rebuild ( Continental F245) and a lot of checking, it idled like a Swiss watch, but sputtered under load- the distributor advance worked the wrong way! A stopgap repair proved the point and a new distributor built for the proper direction of rotation woke the engine right up.It had a couple of other issues with heat riser and leaky exhaust causing the engine to ingest exhaust gas. The only other issue was with Hyster's throttle system. You should show this. The mechanical governor equipped with a spring breakaway arm so the foot throttle can slow the engine. one of the linkages kept slipping on the throttle shaft. The branch that now has the machine loves it. From cold start it runs like warm in about 30 seconds in winter! The linkage on the lift and tilt valves is sensitive to wear issues. Incidentally, that is not a hydrostatic transmission, it's a powershift and works much like an automatic in a car. Slow engagement is a dead giveaway of a plugged filter.

  • @Rusty_ok
    @Rusty_ok 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for posting you are pretty close to getting this old forklift back into service. Looking forward to seeing old red again.

  • @tigerspook1
    @tigerspook1 3 года назад

    Love the way you bring old machines back to life, and explain what you are doing all the time...

  • @gutsngorrrr
    @gutsngorrrr 3 года назад +7

    The spiral wrap normally comes with a special tool to help with installing it and it makes it so much easier and quicker to install.

  • @1961nuffield
    @1961nuffield 3 года назад

    You have saved a forklift that usually would be scrapped, and everything you fix makes it closer to a working machine, very good work!

  • @MrPossumeyes
    @MrPossumeyes 3 года назад

    That's a cool fountain you've got on the mast! Still - nice loom, nice brakes. Looking forward to the next episode.

  • @joebroz9006
    @joebroz9006 3 года назад +1

    I can’t explain why I enjoy your vids so much, but I really do. I get upset when they end. I look forward very much for your work and check every day to see if there is anything new. I hope you get back to Big Red to finish that soon. You are an amazing mech. It’s a joy to watch and I appreciate how you keep a constant stream of consciousness going. Works great for me. Please keep them coming!

  • @bpetnoi1472
    @bpetnoi1472 3 года назад

    I agree with people below about the gaskets and pre load on the bearings. These bearings are designed to be lubed by diff oil. The outer gasket keeps the oil from leaking out onto the ground. The inner seal keeps the diff oil off the shoes. Back in the days I usually took the "over tighten, back off and snap to zero lash approach". By this I would over tighten the bearing, back it off until the nut was free to move by hand, throw a socket on the nut and sort of just snap ones wrist clockwise until the nut stopped moving. I then put in the inner locking spacer and would then the outer nut to keep all things tight. This was known as seated bearings with zero lash. Hope this helps you in the future when working on wheel bearings. For a time in the auto trade we would torque bearings to a pre-load as specified by manufacture. Personally I always thought the manufacture specs over tighten the bearings, but I never had come backs either way. Hope your drum slave cylinders where not to rusty as they may leak even with new cups.

  • @AlexanderGibbonsAudio
    @AlexanderGibbonsAudio 3 года назад

    I know this is a minor point, and probably absolutely not important in the grand scheme of things but when you installed the new hydraulic hose, you installed it over the wiring harness, the one that it replaced was underneath. 100% sure it will not make a difference at all, but who knows?
    Thank you for consistently posting some amazing content! Love your channel

  • @mauricekeithjohnson2598
    @mauricekeithjohnson2598 3 года назад +1

    Brake SHOES with brake linings rivetted on. PADS on disc brakes. Nice job.

  • @coreyberlier8075
    @coreyberlier8075 3 года назад +2

    Found your channel recently and love it. Keep up the great videos and will continue watching.

  • @mohabatkhanmalak1161
    @mohabatkhanmalak1161 3 года назад

    Enjoyed watching the repairs. The half shafts do need those paper gaskets, and you can even make them out of breakfast cereal boxes, saving more $$, this is a yard machine so no need to splash too much on it. Proper repairs will do. To tighten the axle bearing nuts, go all the way in while turning the drum and then back off a little. You don't want the bearing rollers too tightly on the race. Electric wires look real neat, good job! Hope you get the carb sorted, there should be repair kits maybe even at forklift/tractor suppliers. These continental engines were used all over, even the military.

  • @larrykerr7712
    @larrykerr7712 3 года назад +1

    Great videos.Keep them coming. Really enjoy them.Love to see old things brought back to life.

  • @yereverluvinuncleber
    @yereverluvinuncleber 3 года назад +10

    It is good to the" Shyster" moving and stopping. A company in the UK called Burlen Fuel Systems is where I go for all carburettor jets, needles and rare parts. I don't know if that helps.

  • @garrylalonde6836
    @garrylalonde6836 3 года назад +10

    there should be a creaper valve off the left brake pedal that needs adjusting , or it may be Parshall stuck its usually located under the floor pan on top of the transmision

  • @davidschmidt8367
    @davidschmidt8367 3 года назад +1

    Grateful that RUclips recommended your channel months ago. Just bought my first house, now I can work on my own resto projects. First project is a 1960 Curtis 80 gallon compressor that I found dirt cheap with a bad start capacitor. Motor runs great now and it did make pressure. Decided to take the head apart and found a broken reed valve. Fixed that with some shim stock, cleaned and put new springs on the others. Now I'm not sure it will make pressure any more cause the unloader assembly wasn't working for a long time apparently, and not even Curtis, who is only like 60 miles from me in St Louis, has a diagram on how it was supposed to be in the first place. Maybe I can plumb an electric unloader? Sorry, got off on a tangent. Love the projects, looking forward to more of yours and my own.

  • @markshaw2207
    @markshaw2207 3 года назад +50

    It's bad for tapered roller bearings to be preloaded too much. That's the reason for the retaining mechanism on the nut. I think you overdid it.

    • @MrBoiler09
      @MrBoiler09 3 года назад +7

      I agree 100%

    • @dolvaran
      @dolvaran 3 года назад +10

      Check out Bus Grease Monkey - coach (bus) hubs & brakes seem to be very similar, and he is often saying that you should be able to undo that inner nut by hand (or very nearly).

    • @edwardsilva895
      @edwardsilva895 3 года назад +5

      Too much pre-load on the bearings

    • @googacct
      @googacct 3 года назад +6

      I did the brakes on my Cat forklift a few years back. In the service manual there was a definite specification for the amount of drag at the wheel hub when adjusting the bearing preload. You definitely did not crank down on the nut as hard as you can. I was sort of surprised that the forklift was able to move at all when I saw the axle nut getting cranked down the as much as I saw in the video.

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 года назад +23

      That's GREAT to know! Thank you! I will adjust them out a bit RIGHT away! I don't want to cause an issue or have to replace the bearings ANYTIME soon! Thanks for watching & commenting! I truly appreciate it!

  • @tomsommer54
    @tomsommer54 2 года назад

    Yes, brakes come in handy. Good work!

  • @chrisnorton2837
    @chrisnorton2837 3 года назад +1

    Great job on the wiring loom and congrats on getting the brakes working too. Loving this series. ☺👍

  • @BrookZerihun
    @BrookZerihun 3 года назад +1

    best hour of my week

  • @Greekman72
    @Greekman72 3 года назад +2

    Such a great series! I'm addicted to your channel and your projects!!!

  • @slainesmith
    @slainesmith 3 года назад +1

    Good to see another machine not being consigned to the scrap heap. And an engine head referring to a ‘Rule’ not Ruler 👍

  • @colbyhuval8362
    @colbyhuval8362 3 года назад +22

    Please don’t blow out the brakes with air , most or all were made with asbestos and you could breath in the dust .
    Use brake parts cleaner instead .

  • @MinnesotaEric
    @MinnesotaEric 3 года назад +39

    Tip: Those wheel bearings are not supposed to have any preload on them. Spin the drum while tightening the nut to set the wheel bearing, tightening only until there is no free-play and minimal to no preload. I cringed a bit watching you torque the wheel bearing. That torque will lead to premature wear on the wheel bearings. I enjoy your channel.

    • @bataviawillem1
      @bataviawillem1 2 года назад +6

      I was cringing to.

    • @richardbadour1714
      @richardbadour1714 2 года назад +1

      Gasket no problem… don’t torque bearings nuts unless there are sealed bearings…. Like 96 Dodge Ram which requires 300# torque!

    • @richardbadour1714
      @richardbadour1714 2 года назад +1

      At7:24 your damage line looks like it had water in it and it was frozen sometime in the past!

    • @richardbadour1714
      @richardbadour1714 2 года назад +1

      When you replace the damage lines steel or aluminum I always put anti-seize between nut and line only it will help in future work…. Perfect for brake lines too! Once installed and done on the brake lines I rub axle grease on the lines to help keep moisture off and slows down the rusting!

    • @richardbadour1714
      @richardbadour1714 2 года назад +2

      At 14:01 don’t pump brakes without drums on… you can blow wheel cylinder! Minimum put ratchet straps around brake shoes to protect wheel cylinder! Again you got lucky! If you are still looking to name this forklift? I’ll suggest “Lucky” for what you invested and how many close calls lucky is the only appropriate name for it!

  • @clifficus
    @clifficus 3 года назад +10

    I think that’s a really sweet sounding engine, got yourself a bargain there, coat of yellow paint and your good to go, 👍😃

    • @mdouglaswray
      @mdouglaswray 3 года назад +1

      It IS! Astounding after the horrifying things found IN it and the terrifying things done TO it!!

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 года назад +2

      I completely agree Cliff! I've been just as surprised by this old beast as you are! Not sure it's going to be yellow for much longer! Stay tuned to find out!

  • @bobf12
    @bobf12 2 года назад

    I like that little fork lift you have. That would fit right into my shop.

  • @babylonfive
    @babylonfive 3 года назад

    Your review-before-cleaning process resembles Louis Rossmann's process when fixing... computer motherboards.
    When looking for a failure, many times a "shit-stain" will give a great indicator of the failures without a lot of detailed troubleshooting.

  • @stephensaasen8589
    @stephensaasen8589 3 года назад +1

    You are mostly right about why the inner drum bearing is packed with grease. However, Hyster made it practice (and actually still does) to pack the inner bearing with grease rather than flood with 90 weight from the differential because it is believed that due to the lower speeds that forklifts travel that the diff oil won't properly lubricate the inner bearing. At least, that's what everyone always told me when I used to work on these things for a living. Usually, when I pulled a drum off a Hyster that had this setup, the inner seal usually had failed and there was some 90wt gear oil in the inner bearing cavity. The big solid tire 13,500 - 15,000 capacity (S135 - S155 model) Hysters actually have a floating axle assembly similar to this but they seal the end of the hub so both inner and outer bearings have to be packed with grease. The outer bearing on your lift still floats in diff oil. You might want to check your differential level because things look a tittle dry. The wheel bearings preload like an automobile. Synch her up tight and back off to just a little more than finger tight. It looks like you had it too tight. That's why the locking nut. I hope you smeared the seal surfaces with some grease too before installing. They always seem to need some lube.

  • @poolmotorrepairguyFL
    @poolmotorrepairguyFL 3 года назад

    The Florida pool pump motor repair guy approved ! that was good info SW

  • @Je.Suis.Flaneur
    @Je.Suis.Flaneur 3 года назад +9

    Contact Hyster and ask them for the name of the oldest Hyster repair shop. They should know it. Maybe someone has the carb parts you need.

  • @briantomkins1284
    @briantomkins1284 3 года назад

    Loved watching you bring this beauty back to life! Fantastic forklifts and they dont make them like these no more! They are bullet proof and cam be abused way to much.. we have always had them in our business as dad used to work for the company that sold them here in australia. We have had h80c like yours, h90, two big old 1950's container forks... got given to us no motors put a chrysler slant 6 in them and man they could 60km way scary put them to use demo a few quarries and sold them on for s handsome proffit, still have s40c which have owned for 50 yrs in the family, plus have 2 s50c's and a s90b which have been resored and are used still in our busines ( despite my brother wanting to retire them) flat out no on that tho.

  • @timofeyserikof8397
    @timofeyserikof8397 3 года назад +3

    I can’t tell you anything about the renovation of this old monster, but I can only say that I like it and I keep my thumb up after watching all your videos !!! Good luck to you, to the delight of all of us !!!

    • @29lookingood
      @29lookingood 3 года назад +1

      Exactly what I was going to say 👍🏾💙 #UKNana

  • @markalexander5124
    @markalexander5124 3 года назад

    You are an excellent teacher!

  • @kcrailroader5297
    @kcrailroader5297 3 года назад +1

    With the spiral loom, coil it up into a smaller hand coil, taped in a couple places. Un-tape and re-extend as you use up what's out. It's a lot easier than dealing with that long tail. 👍

  • @robapplebee8506
    @robapplebee8506 3 года назад

    Can't wait for you to start a new shop!

  • @tonypaul2987
    @tonypaul2987 3 года назад +12

    Love all your hard work sir. Been watching you on all your projects. But I miss big red. Lol

  • @davidaylsworth8964
    @davidaylsworth8964 3 года назад +2

    I really like that you took the time to loom the wires neatly. Your videos are always interesting.

    • @mdouglaswray
      @mdouglaswray 3 года назад

      That MATD keeps things running longer!

  • @jamesdepaul3410
    @jamesdepaul3410 9 месяцев назад

    Nice work young sir.

  • @marcbona2686
    @marcbona2686 3 года назад

    You shouldn't tighten that inside hub nut so much. It's only meant to be "snug", otherwise you put too much load on the bearings. When that pin didn't line up with the washer you should have loosened that inner nut a bit, not tightened it.The outer nut is the one that's supposed to be tight. Love your channel. You're not afraid to tackle anything!

  • @paulstanding7267
    @paulstanding7267 3 года назад +3

    If i remember correct when in gaged forward or reverse it should only move a fraction until you put your foot on the gas pedal iso it will not jump forward or backwards nice vlog looking good you all take care is old red still alive 😂😂👍

  • @rayscrafield2106
    @rayscrafield2106 Год назад

    Another well done video. Thanks for your efforts.

  • @JamesSmith-hx3lp
    @JamesSmith-hx3lp 3 года назад

    Enjoyed the video! I like seeing you work on old abused machines then getting them running like new! Thanks and keep up the good work!

  • @inspiredscreens
    @inspiredscreens 3 года назад

    Thank you Sir Salvage. Great stuff. Mark from the Philippines.

  • @TheDutchPathFinder1
    @TheDutchPathFinder1 3 года назад

    Another day, another lesson learned. ty ..... Master Mechanic. ^^

  • @andrewgray1949
    @andrewgray1949 3 года назад

    Just a note in respect of the tape on the loom;- Has not lost it's adhesive! It is supposed to be a plain tape which keeps dirt and moisture out without gumming up the wires and glueing grit and debris in place - allows the loom to flex. If you have the opportunity to replace it I would recommend doing so - spiral wrap will not keep grit out of the loom, but would be OK over the correct non adhesive PVC tape.

  • @sheldonkapp8826
    @sheldonkapp8826 3 года назад +1

    I did not read through all the comments so someone may have already addressed this but your trans being slow to engage may be due to what I have been taught is a clutch brake. On most forklifts I have run the left brake pedal is the clutch brake. When pressed partially down it will neutralize the trans, as you push the petal farther down it begins to apply the brake. This helps when trying to gain rpm to speed up lifting without taking the transmission out of gear. The right petal is only brake. From what little I could see your feet in your video it looked like you were only using the left pedal. Hope this helps.

  • @MakinEndsMeet69
    @MakinEndsMeet69 3 года назад +3

    Man oh man I would like to see you and JC Smith team up together and tackle some projects. You both have the perfect work ethic, clean it up and fix what's broken and even add-on better stuff when possible. Thanks for sharing buddy, your videos are always appreciated.

  • @richardjones5255
    @richardjones5255 3 года назад +1

    Good progress, it is getting first-rate attention after years of neglect. Wes might well be onto something with the adjustments of the carburettor, I found setting them something of a dark art. I thought that it drove well after you fixed the brakes and the change mechanism. The 'hydraulic fountain' was dramatic, fixing that is an essential challenge. I hope it is just a question of the seals and not broken parts. Your videos mix interesting, instruction, (though my old body will never let me do those things), and part mind relaxation. Thank you, it was thoroughly enjoyable.

  • @rogeralmanzora5397
    @rogeralmanzora5397 3 года назад

    Una extraordinaria lección mecánica. Greetings from Barcelona, Spain👍👍👍

  • @DIGGER19860
    @DIGGER19860 3 года назад

    That white loom is actually for hydraulic line to protect it from rubbing in smaller areas. But it would work fine for wire just tedious. The loom for wire is called "split loom" and its usually black but comes in different colors and has a long split that makes it fast and easy to cover existing wire. It also more thoroughly protects the wire unlike the hydraulic line loom.

  • @vikingocraftbeer8564
    @vikingocraftbeer8564 3 года назад

    i enjoy a lot your videos, and i learn a lot of mechanics whit you, awesome lessons, thanks...........

  • @bigjock7691
    @bigjock7691 3 года назад

    your one of the best ive seen,ypu take all to bits clean and repair,like it tons,can you do more like old red

  • @drewchamberlin1301
    @drewchamberlin1301 3 года назад

    One thing I’ll always remember about hydraulic systems is “flow makes it go!” So in regards to a HST system not moving right away makes me think it could be a pump issue not producing enough flow to make the drive motor or motors move right away. Love your videos man. Keep it up!

    • @w056007568
      @w056007568 3 года назад

      I absolutely agree. I cannot imagine that a reputable company like Hyster would have built a forklift without some degree of filtration system to try to protect the propulsion system or the lifting hydraulic system even if it was as simple as a fine gauze on the suction side of the pump(s) never mind a cartridge filter on the pressure or return sides.

  • @victorwindborg6617
    @victorwindborg6617 3 года назад

    Thanx for the vid s great work on the forklift, i like the electrik Cable work Nice and tidy . U got some lovligt dogs happy and loving,
    Its Nice to see love of old tech and famely and pets 😁👍 thanx i learn so much 👍

  • @Bobbywolf64
    @Bobbywolf64 3 года назад +1

    Brakes are still too spongey. Keep in mind, this machine not only needs to stop itself, but with a full load too. I'd have a go at bleeding out air again, and if that fails, you need to work on/replace the brake master cylinder. Keep it up, I love watching you work on and discover old machines!

  • @henkoosterhof5947
    @henkoosterhof5947 3 года назад

    You did it the right way! Finding the leak.

  • @gregorypierce6703
    @gregorypierce6703 3 года назад

    You can repair the steel hydraulic lines that are split, weld I'd up with a mug, saves quite a bit of money. I did Hawg fuel with a 450 JD and I had a $75 line splitting and took it off and welded the split right up.👍👍

  • @fredrichardson9761
    @fredrichardson9761 3 года назад +1

    Really enjoying this video series on "small yellow"(?)! Wish I knew enough to offer any kind of advice - all I can offer is my utter sense of awe in your careful process of addressing issues and debunking problems. Just really impressive and really cool video!

  • @glennsevert6596
    @glennsevert6596 3 года назад

    For the carb jets you might check around for parts on a Massey Ferguson 300 combine. I believe the gas engine they used was a Continental 6 cylinder industrial engine, but I have no clue if they used the carb you need. They were produced during the same timeframe, so it might be worth a shot. Good Luck! I enjoy the channel!

  • @paul2466
    @paul2466 3 года назад

    That’s a well built machine, I don’t think you will ever wear it out and will be as good as new when you are through 👍👍

  • @pete-mate3524
    @pete-mate3524 3 года назад +1

    Hi Great vid! A couple of things to mention; First, it's called a "shuttle transmission", Hydrostatic is a very different thing (usually used in road rollers and some ride on mowers, amongst other things). Secondly, with forklifts that have these 'shuttles' and two brake pedals, quite often the RH pedal is for normal use, and the LH pedal drops the shuttle into neutral as well. This is so you can give extra rev's / power to the hydraulics for lifting the load quickly as you come up to the (imaginary) truck that you're loading. Now, I'm going to go watch your next vid!!! :-))

  • @larrywalker7759
    @larrywalker7759 3 года назад +4

    That extra inner seal in the hub always seemed to be a "Hyster thing", I am unsure whether that style ever enjoyed use by any other forklift brands. In the Hyster forklifts, the inner seal separated the outer bearing cavity (which was oil lubed by the drive axle gear oil) from the inner wheel bearing cavity (which was a grease packed bearing). Many other brands of forklifts use a seal in the end of the axle load tube that seals against the axle shaft to keep differential lube oil out of the wheel bearing cavity of the hub, with both bearings being grease packed. Hyster was the only brand I personally know of that thought the inner and outer bearings should be lubed differently. It would be interesting (to me) to know why that strategy was ever developed.
    I also have worked on forklifts (don't remember if it was MCFA, Nissan, or Yale) where the wheel bearings were grease packed, but the bearing cavity actually had a small drilled hole that vented to atmosphere outside of the wheel area, I presumed that was so if the axle tube seal failed and let differential lube oil into the bearing cavity it would announce it by showing a visible oil leak before the oil made its way past the wheel seal and contaminated the brake SHOES.

  • @roadlizardcu8664
    @roadlizardcu8664 3 года назад

    Good work on the drivetrain/wiring/brakes. Project is moving along nicely. Enjoyed.

  • @ronnygraves6380
    @ronnygraves6380 3 года назад

    Smart guy. Enjoyed your video

  • @larryrussomanno9217
    @larryrussomanno9217 3 года назад +7

    Your name should be Mr. Gasket 😀
    Great video my friend

  • @PAINFOOL13
    @PAINFOOL13 3 года назад +1

    4 legged inspectors
    keep you on the straight n narrow 👍🏻
    thanks for the great vid .

  • @dkdj5
    @dkdj5 3 года назад +1

    Those main hydraulic cylinders can usually be repaired right from the top. Just lift the mast enough to get access and then remove the top nut/retainer and the only seal/packing is right there. Not at the bottom of rod like most cylinders.
    Make sure you are using the correct fluid in trans. A lot of those are dexron, not hydraulic fluid.

  • @richardaronson5127
    @richardaronson5127 3 года назад

    Great job on video! Always pick up a new trick to make my projects go smoother now if I could remember what I was doing before I found your channel……:)

  • @johnwestermark5649
    @johnwestermark5649 3 года назад

    Old brake shoes sometimes sand them a little really helps also use lacquer thinner it will save you a lot of money.

  • @fls360
    @fls360 3 года назад

    When doing a brake job on a lift, cleanliness is crucial as the hub rpm is not as a car . It is always a good idea to burnish the brakes and readjust the shoes. As far as the trans engagement, just be glad it moves. Pump pressure may not be as she once was. As long as she moves, be grateful. The old FE series Continental engines are solid power plants and is a plus.

  • @mtbjonny9502
    @mtbjonny9502 3 года назад

    To make holes in a seal gasket, use a steel ball (ball-bearing), place it on the hole and hit the steel ball lightly with the hammer.

  • @lottiecooper609
    @lottiecooper609 3 года назад

    That's a perfect example of why you shouldn't leave your equipment outside!! People who leave things outside are usually the ones who didn't pay for it when new!! Well done!!

  • @Dave-1277
    @Dave-1277 3 года назад +92

    Brother, I don’t know your name but I will tell you this; this channel happens to be one of my all time favorites dude. Great content and excellent work!

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 года назад +28

      I appreciate that Dave! Without YOUR support, there wouldn't BE a channel, so THANK YOU for your support, I'm truly glad you enjoy the channel! TONS more to come!!
      .
      OH and by the way, my name is Matt Salvage!

    • @stanisawk1385
      @stanisawk1385 3 года назад +3

      @@gregorythomas333 YES!

  • @glenhill2034
    @glenhill2034 3 года назад

    thats a good deal. I wish I owned a forklift. I operated on bigger Hyster's at ones at my lumber mill

  • @johnmorton7577
    @johnmorton7577 3 года назад

    Lots of hard work

  • @vicosee4439
    @vicosee4439 2 года назад

    Nice truck man good job I love older equipment I work with Toyota fixing and refinishing forklifts I would love do it on my own I like your rig man you got a nice one would love to see you paint it after you are done with all the mechanical stuff