If Irvine *had* won the 1999 F1 Drivers' Championship while Schumacher was still recovering from his broken leg, it's probable that Ford would've sat up and paid more attention to the F1 team and thus we wouldn'tve had that infamous "Who the hell is 'Edmund Irvine?" Moment.
If theres one thing Jaguar didnt miss on during their operarion in F1, it is their liveries through the years. Banger after banger after banger. That leaping feline on the main air intake rounded up withe the branding of a well known alcoholic beverage and a global financial institute just hits different. That combo of green white and red sure was very recognizable.
V8 supercar driver James Courtney was a Jaguar test driver back in 2002 when he had a rear suspension failure at never 200mph that injured him badly and he never drove an F1 car again
Honda and Toyota had similar problems. An overbearing corporate headquarters who were in it to sell road cars off the back of F1 glory and who thus were incapable of hiring the right people and then letting them do the job. Renault, by contrast, initially had Briatore who, while flamboyant and rivaled Richard Nixon in certain respects, was smart enough to know what he didn't know, and let his design and engineering teams do the job they were paid for. Gary Anderson was a bloody good Technical Director and they tied both his hands behind his back, blindfolded him and then dumped him.
Given the recent lacklustre launch liveries, and stupid F1 team names, thank you for reminding us of a team than not only had a somewhat sensible name, but also arguably the most kicking paint job in F1 history!
Actually, most of the liverys of the early 2000's were great. Especially in combination with the sleek cars 😍. 2000 seasons arrows? The 2001-2004 liveries of BMW-Williams? The mclaren silver arrows with the prominent tabacco ads? The Ferrari F2002 with the Malboro-Livery? Jordan with the Hornet Design on the wing in 2000? ☝️🤓
@@TheMobileChicane Poor Mark. Always in the wrong team at the wrong time. An underated driver who could pick up a team and carry it. Imagine him at Williams only a few years before he got there. By the time he did, the team was a shadow of its former self. Finally got the right car under him, when to be fair, he was past his best and a quick young teamate in Vettel. Great summary on the Jag team. I like many others had such High hopes. Still one of the prettiest cars in this century. Pity there was no points for that.
@@l1a146 Webber still took his 2010 title hopes to the final round. Not something Bottas, Barrichello or Coulthard ever did. That was his best chance for sure but he clearly hated the Pirelli tyres in later years.
Never even realised the 007 sponsors on the 2002 season mirrors until this video. (Coming from a massive but completely irrelevantly to the comment itself said fan) Shows how little they must have thought about the Jaguar being in Die Another Day to only have a tiny mirror advertising! Compare it to when Goldeneye came out in 1995, most BMW racing liveries in touring cars had centre spot sponsorship. In an era when Jaguar VS Aston Martin in James Bond, such hype and potential to be the forbidden battle film fans never expected......and again, tiny mirror decals 😂
Whenever I think of Jaguar I always remember Webber's car absolutely sleeping on his 2004 Malaysia start. What a shame. He genuinely would've been a world champion if he didn't have that consistent flaw in which he had in 2010.
A similar video on Toyota or even BAR/Honda would be well and Trulli welcome. Especially on Honda's case, their sudden and alarming drop in form from 2006 to 2007 is bizarre.
Bar Honda/Brawn would be really interesting to cover. It's the only story that actually has a good ending. And has some really interesting stories from Button/Villeneuve "relationship" in 2003 to Button BMW saga in 2004 to 2005 cheating to sudden 2007/2008 hibernations years and then culminating all in 2009. Granted asking to cover a whole decade would be a bit too much, but I feel like there's a lot of meat in there. It's a rollercoaster of hope and despair. @@TheMobileChicane
I don't think getting Adrian Newey onboard could even save this utter catastrophe. If Gary Anderson couldn't get anything done due to Ford management constantly meddling in the operation i doubt Adrian would fair any better. Jaguar will sadly forever be one of those "what if" teams. They produced nice looking cars though.
This was truly jaded... Jaguar did eventually get Adrian Newey.. except they were already Red Bull.. and the rest is history. Funny how two of F1's biggest flops, Jaguar and BAR eventually became two of the most dominant teams F1 has even seen albeit in different guises (Red Bull and Mercedes respectively).
BAR weren’t really a flop by comparison. They weren’t a car factory backed team and 2004 was an incredibly successful year. Not to mention they finished in the top 5 of the constructors 3 times. Toyota were by far a bigger flop than BAR
This channel is such a hidden gem. Deserves millions of subs and I can’t click these documentaries fast enough when I see them. Another fantastic video - it was a pleasure to watch and honesty this could be on Netflix. Jaguar was my ‘second team’ when they joined the grid, as I absolutely loved their livery and I always wanted them to do well. So many ‘what ifs’ attached to them. That sea of green was not as far away as they thought. If only they’d bothered building two good cars and had two competent drivers, we could all be bored of them now, instead of Red Bull.
no channel deserves anything. He has earned what he has and has as much as will be possible.. he will not sell out and be a clickbait channel, those are the channels that get more than they deserve. I prefer his channel to remain the way it is.. content quality over subs. The channels that I'm subbed to that have millions of subs are there mostly due to fake clickbaity thumbnails that I rarely click on. Mobile chicane always has my attention and if he wants subs to come to him organically, they will arrive in time. Stay as you are MC.
@@DuncanCunningham who said anything about selling out? The content he already creates deserves more attention that it gets. You’ve replied to a narrative that I didn’t write.
I do wish he'd back off the mic and talk in a full, normally projected voice though. I feel like someone's speaking right in my ear, often in whispering tones. I find the feeling quite creepy and it's putting me off the otherwise good content.
Jaguar’s diamond dissapearance story will forever live rent free in my head. I seriously want to find the Jaguar marketing team and why they thought putting an uninsured diamond on a race car was a good idea
Putting a diamond on a racing car...in one of the worst teams...driven by an inexperienced 2nd rate driver...at a circuit where crashing happens a lot. What could possibly go wrong?
If they even raced with the diamond attached to the car, which is another theory, that the diamond was only for show and they actually remove dit for on track action.
That was wondeful! I always regretted the fact that stewart couldn't stick around longer. They seemed like one of the few late 90's teams that actually did care enough where I think future good results were possible. I'm sure Jackie still must be pretty proud of his 3 year stint, plus the fact that you are the origin of Red Bull is pretty awesome.
Thanks! I read an interview with Sir Jackie which confirms yeah, he was very proud of what they achieved in just three years. I’m sure the only regret was it failing to go further, but he can hardly be blamed for that.
Grats on another great video! Only thing I'll say is that I always thought the negative appraisal of Irvine after it became clear that Jaguar weren't good enough was a bit overblown. Sure, he was no Schumacher, but let's not forget that, lucky or otherwise, in 1999 Eddie *was* within 6 points of Michael before Silverstone. While he always made sure to mention how much of it was because the car was so easy to drive that there was little room for Schumacher to work his overdrive-the-car magic, you also have to remember that one of the few times he put his ego on hold was whenever he showed how much of a die-hard Schumacher fan he was, so I've always gone with the assumption that he underrated himself that year. In your alternate universe alongside a more serious teammate, I reckon he would've done well enough to justify his place and maintain his interest. As you said, the drivers were really the least of Jaguar's concerns. Having a real team leader would've helped, but only after sorting out every other problem (that Schumacher managed to skip that step in his and his entourage's move to Ferrari is a big part of why he's the GOAT), and I think it's clear enough to everyone at this point that for Jaguar, getting to that point would've been a bit of a hard ask.
In old F1 games I always pick the Jaguar team. I even bought some (overpriced) old jaguar merch on ebay. I love the livery sadly Jaguar never achieved anything substantly. The variety of manufacturers in the 2000s was awesome, colorful liveries together with those V10 engines
That made my Saturday afternoon tea break, thanks Mr Chicane, sir. The hype was real, I remember the seasons surrounding Stewart GP/Jaguar F1 leading upto & into '00. People honestly thought Jaguar were gona challenge Ferrari & McLaren right off the bat, the media, fans, journalists etc. It was crazy, in hindsight. Within a half season, most people knew also, that Jaguar were in big trouble... It was the same in 98/99 when the rumours materialised about BAR and how they would also be immediately competitive. Jaguar were the classic case of "Too many Chiefs & not enough Indians"... Just another name to have tried and failed in the decades since I started following F1 in '88. When you consider the more successful failures of the 90s were Jordan, Prost, Minardi, Stewart, Jaguar, Toyota, BMW, BAR, Benetton to name but a few..... man what a time to be alive and have watched it all......
I know your exact feelings. Whilst I didn’t start watching F1 until 2004, so many of those names you mentioned formed a big part of my early watching and reading about F1.
@@TheMobileChicane And love your work man, have done for a while now. You always bring the goods, man. And it's good how you get right into a subject, thoroughly in a fun and engaging way. A nice hour long video, my kinda stuff. Look forward to more and all the best Mobile, sir. 🙏🏼
I could see why many were positive. They liked Jackie Stewart and thought this was just Stewart racing with more money. Anyway perfect topic for a video like this.
Ah jaguar a team so easy to root for but they where few and far between and it is unlike Minardi or arrows who where back markers Such a title jaguar as a team you did it justice loved the video
Mobile chicane upload! I appreciate your efforts to get so much footage in these edits - As someone who has done editing work on the side, I know it isn't always simple and easy, especially with F1 copyright vultures hovering. I also greatly appreciate the insight and retelling of f1 history, especially a lot of these less retold stories. A lot of people can talk about McLaren's winning season, or Senna/Prost, but not much else before the 80s/90s, and especially nowadays - teams that weren't McLaren or Ferrari before 2010...
The story of Jaguar is a reminder of how important proper backing for a F1 team is since Ford's mismanagement was the reason why the team floundered near the back which is a shame considering the momentum that Stewart showed in 1999. If they continued on that trajectory, seasons like Jordan's 1999 might have been possible for them but alas. It will be interesting to see how Ford will do on their return to F1 with Red Bull in the future as well since with a top team like that, I doubt they are going to make the same mistakes as last time. I am excited to also start experiencing this new year of motorsport too now that I am actively trying to follow NASCAR alongside F1. Of course, I will be keeping a very close on Lewis to see how he does in his final season with Mercedes.
The Jaguar F1 team, the outfit that launched itself claiming it was going to rival the Ferrari team (at the height of the Brawn, Schumacher, Todt era). There were obviously some very self-deluded individuals at Ford's headquarters.
Ford looked at it like the road cars it builds, leave parts for specialists when F1 is a team game and they should have left them to do the job to improve, i remember Anderson saying about they had found an massive improvement with a front wing he called ford and told them it had sliced half a second off there lap times, it took ford 2 months to sign off on the budget to build that new wing by then everyone else had found that and a bit more. Good luck red bull i hope its them calling the odds and not the blue oval!
I thought this as well. Like why didn’t they just do what they did when they decided to enter Le Mans to beat Ferrari in the 60s? They started similarly to this but then they let Shelby and Ken Miles sort out the car and look what happened. Ford came out on top for multiple years
@@tombardsley3081 as is touched on in the movie and in more depth in multiple books Carol Shelby had to strongarm the Ford family to get his own way and bypass the ford internal politics, this has always been an issue with ford in motorsports they think the name alone will bring victory but when it comes to spending the millions of dollars per year to get there they are not to happy to hand over the folding green, look at the rally history and all the cars like the various cosworths that were world beating on paper but held back by number crunching.
@@MrDavidfball true. But as I said, why didn’t Ford learn from the mistakes of not letting to the guys that know more than them on the actual racing side get on with their jobs?
@@tombardsley3081 because they are bean counters, they watch the money without thinking of the return if there brand dominates, look what rallying did for Subaru little known brand before Prodrive turned them into winners, and now ford cars are one design for the world there is no reason for fords top brass to leave the USA unless its something major going on.
@@MrDavidfball just hope they don't think they can interfere when they come in again, funnily with the team that they pulled out from and who red bull ended up buying
Ford was never serious about F1 and like every team that hasn’t come in without their game face on, it went off the rails. BTW, using Homer’s lottery daydream: chef’s kiss 👨🍳 💋.
Was looking forward to this all week. Phenomenal work as always. Favourite livery other than the Prost and Orange Arrows. Speaking of, a video on the TWR Arrows years would be a great video idea!
In addition to everything everyone said so far in the comments, I want to congratulate you for pronouncing Gil de Ferran in a more proper way, not "Gheel de Ferran" like several other people do. Good to see his name being brought up too. And gosh, what an amazing video. Being super young at the time, I was always fascinated by how gorgeous the car was (I was in the grandstand right where Webber crashed in 2003, Interlagos!). Only a few years later. as I grew older and learned more about the sport, I'd realize how much of a messy corporate project that was...
There was no way Jaguar would have mmaaged to sign Frentzen ir Coulthard on their first season. Irvine was probbaly the best they could do. Maybe with Fisichella or Wurz alongside him
excellent video again. just a suggestion, maybe tweak the title format so that “casual” viewers know this is F1 history. youll get there. everything else is excellent already.
You could make a video on David Pitchforth's involvement in the team alone, sabotaging the design of the R3, forcing out Lauda & Steiner and feeding Autosport the "Ford super team" story less than a week before the team were put up for sale and making Autosport look like utter chumps in the process!
As a huge Ford fan since birth: Screw Fords motorsport plan. They removed support from all motorsport genres after 1998 except F1, WRC and Nascar. What did they have to show for it? Ford had recently had an Escort on the podium in the highest class of rallycross for 6 seasons in a row. 2 of the was ERC champions! But no, Ford showed them the door. Only WRC or F1 or get ouit. The hubris of the Ford excecs still make me fume with anger.
Superb piece of work. Ford/Jaaaaag and Toyota trying to impose their conservative corporate cultures on the fast paced and often rough and tumble world of F1 was never going to work. Decisions need to be made ASAP, not after a committee meeting or a call to Dearborn/Tokyo for approval
@@TheMobileChicane before being sold to a company with a history of success and then going on to dominate the next 1 and a half decades near enough… cough Andretti cough😉
OK I’m only through 2002 and the beginning of it at that, but is every position going to get a different person every year? How could a team ever succeed with a revolving door everywhere?
Stewart was doing better and better they should have kept them and just sent a bigger budget to do more. Maybe even fund jaguar the make an f1 engine in house ford engines and cosworth engines have not been good at that era. When I ever heard a f1 team using ford cosworth engine it means the team will be at the back. Mark webber is a good driver he raced the Mercedes in le mans clk gt1 clk lm and the flipping clr gtp. Johnny Herbert is a good driver but getting older and really start to drive slow, steady Eddie Irvine has some experience but I would be questioning if he is fast driver or has the right attitude. barrichello was someone they should have kept and bring in frentzen too. Them to drivers would have helped drive the car to punch above its weight in race's even panis or trulli would be good to catch when prost failed
@7:26 if only Ford had agreed with Sir Jackie there. Would have been a different story. That's why Mercedes were able to enjoy so much success for so long, the brand let the race team just get on with it. Whereas Jaguar was blighted with the "it's the Ford way" nonsense.
I was waiting for this, I love your channel. Glad to have been there for nearly a year, your content is close to what CYMotorsport was doing 3/4 years back but nearly upgraded in every way, and this is no slight against the Cranky Yankee, because his content was amazing already. Keep going!
LETS GOOOO. I love this video. Nothin but straight quality from TheMobileChicane. I salute you for your work🫡 Also, I always feel like these companies that want to be worshipped like ferrari only see ferrari’s success as something that builds the tifosi. It’s their success, but equally important their continuation in the sport despite their constant failure that has their fans so loyal. The dedication and commitment to f1 that ferrari has is unmatched. Sure a couple titles and a dominant run will get you a loyal fan base. But you gotta stick around when things get tough for people to remain invested. Toyota, Honda, Ford, and BMW all failed to see that.
One of my first memories is seeing Irvine driving the Jaguar and I was immediately mesmerized by it. To this day I think it´s a shame that they never won anything not even the "biggest Manufacturer loser of the 2000´s" Award
Jaguar were so incredibly frustrating to watch, full of potential but run into the ground by the bean counters. As for the diamond in the nose, I never quite bought that story. It all sounded to me like the diamond was never there and the "theft" story was another move to generate yet more publicity.
IMO a combination of poor results, poor timing (manufacturers flocking in the 2000's), the success of Ford in other categories (the World Rally Championship in particular) and the political bickering in both the team and within Ford itself contributed to Jaguar's failed F1 tenure. To me Ford never really knew what to do with the Jaguar brand itself, let alone the F1 team bearing its name - who was their target audience to sell Jags to them? The reality was that the Jaguars of the late 90's and early 00's were pretty much your standard Ford family car (Ford Mondeo in particular) underneath. That was not going to cut it in a market where the Germans (Audi, BMW and Mercedes in particular) were ruling the roost. They've also had (as mentioned earlier) Volvo which was also somewhat positioned by Ford as a more upmarket brand to rival the Germans. And not long after the F1 team was sold, Jaguar and Land Rover were sold to the Indian manufacturer Tata in 2008. The Premier Automotive Group, which Jaguar was part of it, was abolished in 2010 when the last remaining brand - Volvo, was sold to Geely in 2010. Ford also had a controlling stake in Aston Martin, which was also part of the PAG, but Ford got rid of its involvement with the legendary sportscar brand in 2007, selling it to David Richards of Prodrive.
By far the best f1 content on RUclips, I always come back and rewatch vids and go on 2-3 hour binges of watching all your videos because they’re all top quality
If Irvine *had* won the 1999 F1 Drivers' Championship while Schumacher was still recovering from his broken leg, it's probable that Ford would've sat up and paid more attention to the F1 team and thus we wouldn'tve had that infamous "Who the hell is 'Edmund Irvine?" Moment.
That’s a fair point. Wonder what would’ve happened in that reality…
Nah, they’d still have fallen flat on their arse…
If only they were as good as their livery....
Looked like a million bucks, ran like a $1.50
As usual, the smartest person in this whole situation was Sir Jackie Stewart
So true!
How much did he sell for? Poor Eddie Jordan incurred no such luck by hanging on so long..
@@Goodnewsglobal I think eddie managed to get out ok relatively speaking. He could have hung on alot longer but made the wise choice to sell
If theres one thing Jaguar didnt miss on during their operarion in F1, it is their liveries through the years. Banger after banger after banger. That leaping feline on the main air intake rounded up withe the branding of a well known alcoholic beverage and a global financial institute just hits different. That combo of green white and red sure was very recognizable.
In this modern era of copycat carbon, the Jaguar liveries will always be some of F1’s most recognisable. That may just be the nostalgia talking!
'Honey wake up, The mobile chicane has just uploaded''. Or 'Sorry can't land this plane right now, the mobile chicane has just uploaded'.
Both. Both is good.
This is exactly why planes have reserve tanks.
I've played enough flight sim. I'll take over, finish the video.
Honey/Babe, make up a new comment for fresh uploads.
As Eddie Irvine said "Great idea horribly executed"
V8 supercar driver James Courtney was a Jaguar test driver back in 2002 when he had a rear suspension failure at never 200mph that injured him badly and he never drove an F1 car again
This was mentioned in the video - the high speed accident part at least.
Honda and Toyota had similar problems. An overbearing corporate headquarters who were in it to sell road cars off the back of F1 glory and who thus were incapable of hiring the right people and then letting them do the job.
Renault, by contrast, initially had Briatore who, while flamboyant and rivaled Richard Nixon in certain respects, was smart enough to know what he didn't know, and let his design and engineering teams do the job they were paid for. Gary Anderson was a bloody good Technical Director and they tied both his hands behind his back, blindfolded him and then dumped him.
Given the recent lacklustre launch liveries, and stupid F1 team names, thank you for reminding us of a team than not only had a somewhat sensible name, but also arguably the most kicking paint job in F1 history!
They didn’t know how to run an F1 team, but damn, I do love that livery.
Great livery, but my heart still goes to the Jordan and Prost cars of 1998 to 2001 on that department
Arrows 2000 to 2002 for me
Not sure how Jaguar is only a "somewhat" sensible name to you? It's one of the oldest and recognisable name in every form of Motorsport.
Actually, most of the liverys of the early 2000's were great. Especially in combination with the sleek cars 😍.
2000 seasons arrows? The 2001-2004 liveries of BMW-Williams?
The mclaren silver arrows with the prominent tabacco ads?
The Ferrari F2002 with the Malboro-Livery?
Jordan with the Hornet Design on the wing in 2000? ☝️🤓
Webber was the only driver who raced at Jag that left with his reputation actually enhanced.
Very true; I’d be tempted to do a video on Webber and Jaguar’s 2003 season alone!
@@TheMobileChicane Would love a video about Webber!
@@TheMobileChicane Poor Mark. Always in the wrong team at the wrong time.
An underated driver who could pick up a team and carry it.
Imagine him at Williams only a few years before he got there. By the time he did, the team was a shadow of its former self.
Finally got the right car under him, when to be fair, he was past his best and a quick young teamate in Vettel.
Great summary on the Jag team. I like many others had such High hopes.
Still one of the prettiest cars in this century. Pity there was no points for that.
@@l1a146 Webber still took his 2010 title hopes to the final round. Not something Bottas, Barrichello or Coulthard ever did. That was his best chance for sure but he clearly hated the Pirelli tyres in later years.
@@alexpeak16 A world Endurance championship for Porsche is always a nice consolation as well. 😊
New Chicane upload is always a winner. RIP Gil De Ferran ❤ Glad u mentioned him in this
An absolute legend of the sport.
His pole position at Fontana might be the most amazing pole lap ever
240mph *average*
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 it was. Plus all his accomplishments too. 😊❤ 2003 Indy 500 and 2 championships included
Never even realised the 007 sponsors on the 2002 season mirrors until this video. (Coming from a massive but completely irrelevantly to the comment itself said fan)
Shows how little they must have thought about the Jaguar being in Die Another Day to only have a tiny mirror advertising! Compare it to when Goldeneye came out in 1995, most BMW racing liveries in touring cars had centre spot sponsorship. In an era when Jaguar VS Aston Martin in James Bond, such hype and potential to be the forbidden battle film fans never expected......and again, tiny mirror decals 😂
Also the XKR was painted in Jaguars F1 colour. Oh Ford, why most you be so bullheaded.
TMC, all your videos belong in the front nose of a Jaguar at Monaco.
Every single one is a gem.
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyy smoothest compliment yet
Whenever I think of Jaguar I always remember Webber's car absolutely sleeping on his 2004 Malaysia start. What a shame. He genuinely would've been a world champion if he didn't have that consistent flaw in which he had in 2010.
Whenever I'm sitting at the traffic lights, it turns green and the car in front just sits there, I always yell, "Go Mark".
@@whodeany99 I needed that smile. Thanks
A similar video on Toyota or even BAR/Honda would be well and Trulli welcome. Especially on Honda's case, their sudden and alarming drop in form from 2006 to 2007 is bizarre.
All of those are in the Mobile Chicane garage; we’ll see the Turmoils of Toyota or the BAR Blues one day!
Bar Honda/Brawn would be really interesting to cover. It's the only story that actually has a good ending. And has some really interesting stories from Button/Villeneuve "relationship" in 2003 to Button BMW saga in 2004 to 2005 cheating to sudden 2007/2008 hibernations years and then culminating all in 2009. Granted asking to cover a whole decade would be a bit too much, but I feel like there's a lot of meat in there. It's a rollercoaster of hope and despair. @@TheMobileChicane
I don't think getting Adrian Newey onboard could even save this utter catastrophe. If Gary Anderson couldn't get anything done due to Ford management constantly meddling in the operation i doubt Adrian would fair any better. Jaguar will sadly forever be one of those "what if" teams. They produced nice looking cars though.
This was truly jaded... Jaguar did eventually get Adrian Newey.. except they were already Red Bull.. and the rest is history.
Funny how two of F1's biggest flops, Jaguar and BAR eventually became two of the most dominant teams F1 has even seen albeit in different guises (Red Bull and Mercedes respectively).
Don't forget BAR morphed into Brawn who did achieve.
BAR weren’t really a flop by comparison. They weren’t a car factory backed team and 2004 was an incredibly successful year. Not to mention they finished in the top 5 of the constructors 3 times. Toyota were by far a bigger flop than BAR
One of the best F1 creators. You can just lock into these videos for over an hour and know you’re gonna be hooked. Keep it up!
Will do, thanks!
This channel is such a hidden gem. Deserves millions of subs and I can’t click these documentaries fast enough when I see them. Another fantastic video - it was a pleasure to watch and honesty this could be on Netflix.
Jaguar was my ‘second team’ when they joined the grid, as I absolutely loved their livery and I always wanted them to do well. So many ‘what ifs’ attached to them. That sea of green was not as far away as they thought. If only they’d bothered building two good cars and had two competent drivers, we could all be bored of them now, instead of Red Bull.
no channel deserves anything. He has earned what he has and has as much as will be possible.. he will not sell out and be a clickbait channel, those are the channels that get more than they deserve. I prefer his channel to remain the way it is.. content quality over subs. The channels that I'm subbed to that have millions of subs are there mostly due to fake clickbaity thumbnails that I rarely click on. Mobile chicane always has my attention and if he wants subs to come to him organically, they will arrive in time. Stay as you are MC.
@@DuncanCunningham who said anything about selling out? The content he already creates deserves more attention that it gets. You’ve replied to a narrative that I didn’t write.
I do wish he'd back off the mic and talk in a full, normally projected voice though.
I feel like someone's speaking right in my ear, often in whispering tones. I find the feeling quite creepy and it's putting me off the otherwise good content.
Jaguar’s diamond dissapearance story will forever live rent free in my head. I seriously want to find the Jaguar marketing team and why they thought putting an uninsured diamond on a race car was a good idea
At Monaco nonetheless!
I hope we find out what happened to it at some point. It'd make a gerat podcast episode
That diamond made it its way into the pocket of the person who placed it on the nose or the individual who made it to the car first when it wrecked
Putting a diamond on a racing car...in one of the worst teams...driven by an inexperienced 2nd rate driver...at a circuit where crashing happens a lot. What could possibly go wrong?
If they even raced with the diamond attached to the car, which is another theory, that the diamond was only for show and they actually remove dit for on track action.
That was wondeful! I always regretted the fact that stewart couldn't stick around longer. They seemed like one of the few late 90's teams that actually did care enough where I think future good results were possible. I'm sure Jackie still must be pretty proud of his 3 year stint, plus the fact that you are the origin of Red Bull is pretty awesome.
Thanks! I read an interview with Sir Jackie which confirms yeah, he was very proud of what they achieved in just three years. I’m sure the only regret was it failing to go further, but he can hardly be blamed for that.
The way your videos sound to me is like ASMR. Nice work
Grats on another great video!
Only thing I'll say is that I always thought the negative appraisal of Irvine after it became clear that Jaguar weren't good enough was a bit overblown. Sure, he was no Schumacher, but let's not forget that, lucky or otherwise, in 1999 Eddie *was* within 6 points of Michael before Silverstone. While he always made sure to mention how much of it was because the car was so easy to drive that there was little room for Schumacher to work his overdrive-the-car magic, you also have to remember that one of the few times he put his ego on hold was whenever he showed how much of a die-hard Schumacher fan he was, so I've always gone with the assumption that he underrated himself that year. In your alternate universe alongside a more serious teammate, I reckon he would've done well enough to justify his place and maintain his interest.
As you said, the drivers were really the least of Jaguar's concerns. Having a real team leader would've helped, but only after sorting out every other problem (that Schumacher managed to skip that step in his and his entourage's move to Ferrari is a big part of why he's the GOAT), and I think it's clear enough to everyone at this point that for Jaguar, getting to that point would've been a bit of a hard ask.
Absolutely valid point 👍🏻
At least the HSBC Jaguar is the best looking livery in F1's history of beautiful designs.
In old F1 games I always pick the Jaguar team. I even bought some (overpriced) old jaguar merch on ebay. I love the livery sadly Jaguar never achieved anything substantly. The variety of manufacturers in the 2000s was awesome, colorful liveries together with those V10 engines
Same! My earliest F1 gaming memory is slamming Webber’s Jaguar around the streets of Monaco (I did not know how to brake)
@@TheMobileChicane my first f1 game was Grand Prix 4 which simulates the 2001 season. A very detailed game series which is fun to play to this day
That made my Saturday afternoon tea break, thanks Mr Chicane, sir.
The hype was real, I remember the seasons surrounding Stewart GP/Jaguar F1 leading upto & into '00. People honestly thought Jaguar were gona challenge Ferrari & McLaren right off the bat, the media, fans, journalists etc. It was crazy, in hindsight.
Within a half season, most people knew also, that Jaguar were in big trouble...
It was the same in 98/99 when the rumours materialised about BAR and how they would also be immediately competitive.
Jaguar were the classic case of "Too many Chiefs & not enough Indians"...
Just another name to have tried and failed in the decades since I started following F1 in '88.
When you consider the more successful failures of the 90s were Jordan, Prost, Minardi, Stewart, Jaguar, Toyota, BMW, BAR, Benetton to name but a few.....
man what a time to be alive and have watched it all......
I know your exact feelings. Whilst I didn’t start watching F1 until 2004, so many of those names you mentioned formed a big part of my early watching and reading about F1.
@@TheMobileChicane And love your work man, have done for a while now. You always bring the goods, man.
And it's good how you get right into a subject, thoroughly in a fun and engaging way.
A nice hour long video, my kinda stuff.
Look forward to more and all the best Mobile, sir. 🙏🏼
I could see why many were positive. They liked Jackie Stewart and thought this was just Stewart racing with more money. Anyway perfect topic for a video like this.
Amazing research, video sourcing and narration. Many thanks!
Thank to irvine to get jaguar podium
Man I aint even here to watch the video Im just mesmerized by how clean the title rolls off the tongue
Ah jaguar a team so easy to root for but they where few and far between and it is unlike Minardi or arrows who where back markers
Such a title jaguar as a team you did it justice loved the video
There aren’t many who can get me to sit through an hour long RUclips video. But in the case of The Mobile Chicane, it’s pure bliss! 💁🏼♀️💁🏼♀️
Mobile chicane upload! I appreciate your efforts to get so much footage in these edits - As someone who has done editing work on the side, I know it isn't always simple and easy, especially with F1 copyright vultures hovering. I also greatly appreciate the insight and retelling of f1 history, especially a lot of these less retold stories. A lot of people can talk about McLaren's winning season, or Senna/Prost, but not much else before the 80s/90s, and especially nowadays - teams that weren't McLaren or Ferrari before 2010...
Why doesn't this channel have more subs!! Quality stuff and always looking forward for the next video.
Thank you for your hard work mate. Your videos are just flat out well done and great to watch!
I haven’t start the video yet but before I do it, I just want to congratulate you for your job because your material is finest!!
The story of Jaguar is a reminder of how important proper backing for a F1 team is since Ford's mismanagement was the reason why the team floundered near the back which is a shame considering the momentum that Stewart showed in 1999. If they continued on that trajectory, seasons like Jordan's 1999 might have been possible for them but alas. It will be interesting to see how Ford will do on their return to F1 with Red Bull in the future as well since with a top team like that, I doubt they are going to make the same mistakes as last time.
I am excited to also start experiencing this new year of motorsport too now that I am actively trying to follow NASCAR alongside F1. Of course, I will be keeping a very close on Lewis to see how he does in his final season with Mercedes.
The Jaguar F1 team, the outfit that launched itself claiming it was going to rival the Ferrari team (at the height of the Brawn, Schumacher, Todt era). There were obviously some very self-deluded individuals at Ford's headquarters.
Great and informative docco... well researched and narrated. Looking forward to more 🙂
Ford looked at it like the road cars it builds, leave parts for specialists when F1 is a team game and they should have left them to do the job to improve, i remember Anderson saying about they had found an massive improvement with a front wing he called ford and told them it had sliced half a second off there lap times, it took ford 2 months to sign off on the budget to build that new wing by then everyone else had found that and a bit more.
Good luck red bull i hope its them calling the odds and not the blue oval!
I thought this as well. Like why didn’t they just do what they did when they decided to enter Le Mans to beat Ferrari in the 60s? They started similarly to this but then they let Shelby and Ken Miles sort out the car and look what happened. Ford came out on top for multiple years
@@tombardsley3081 as is touched on in the movie and in more depth in multiple books Carol Shelby had to strongarm the Ford family to get his own way and bypass the ford internal politics, this has always been an issue with ford in motorsports they think the name alone will bring victory but when it comes to spending the millions of dollars per year to get there they are not to happy to hand over the folding green, look at the rally history and all the cars like the various cosworths that were world beating on paper but held back by number crunching.
@@MrDavidfball true. But as I said, why didn’t Ford learn from the mistakes of not letting to the guys that know more than them on the actual racing side get on with their jobs?
@@tombardsley3081 because they are bean counters, they watch the money without thinking of the return if there brand dominates, look what rallying did for Subaru little known brand before Prodrive turned them into winners, and now ford cars are one design for the world there is no reason for fords top brass to leave the USA unless its something major going on.
@@MrDavidfball just hope they don't think they can interfere when they come in again, funnily with the team that they pulled out from and who red bull ended up buying
Damn, you didn't have to hit us with poetry at the end there...
Amazing video :)
Elegant liveries. Love your channel
Ford was never serious about F1 and like every team that hasn’t come in without their game face on, it went off the rails. BTW, using Homer’s lottery daydream: chef’s kiss 👨🍳 💋.
1 hour video from Mobile Chicane on the best liveried team in the early 2000s? Sign me up.
Was looking forward to this all week. Phenomenal work as always. Favourite livery other than the Prost and Orange Arrows. Speaking of, a video on the TWR Arrows years would be a great video idea!
A few people are starting to enquire about TWR Arrows now.. might have to consider it for the next subscription milestone goal!
If anyone ever comes into an F1 team and says “we need to do it the (insert name) way!”
Run.
Even if it was the Mobile Chicane way??
@@TheMobileChicane NO SELF PROMOTION 😂
EXCELLENT VIDEO! As always! Thank you for sharing your great work.
In addition to everything everyone said so far in the comments, I want to congratulate you for pronouncing Gil de Ferran in a more proper way, not "Gheel de Ferran" like several other people do. Good to see his name being brought up too. And gosh, what an amazing video.
Being super young at the time, I was always fascinated by how gorgeous the car was (I was in the grandstand right where Webber crashed in 2003, Interlagos!). Only a few years later. as I grew older and learned more about the sport, I'd realize how much of a messy corporate project that was...
this is why you should NEVER enter f1 with a corprativist approach/mindset
32:33 the most dangerous thing I have ever seen
There was no way Jaguar would have mmaaged to sign Frentzen ir Coulthard on their first season. Irvine was probbaly the best they could do. Maybe with Fisichella or Wurz alongside him
Can’t wait until you make one on Cadillac Andretti’s aspiration to have a seat at the High Table in 10yrs.
excellent video again. just a suggestion, maybe tweak the title format so that “casual” viewers know this is F1 history. youll get there. everything else is excellent already.
Another excellent video - nice to see my favourite non-current F1 driver get featured! (#mynumberonedriver) Can't wait for the next one!
Excellent video!
great content as always
Appreciate it!
amazing as always!
Thank you!
The JJJ 😂
You could make a video on David Pitchforth's involvement in the team alone, sabotaging the design of the R3, forcing out Lauda & Steiner and feeding Autosport the "Ford super team" story less than a week before the team were put up for sale and making Autosport look like utter chumps in the process!
26:30 "I understand that, without my agreement..."
Devastated I didn’t think to make that reference 😂
Can't help but think Mr. Newey leaving RB is a not so subtle F You to Ford Motor Company
Wake up babe, the man has bacc
A video on toyota would be cool !
So, Red Bull teams up with Ford again, I see touble on the hoorizon
They were never going to win anything with a ford engine.
Guess who's back?! 🎉
As a huge Ford fan since birth: Screw Fords motorsport plan. They removed support from all motorsport genres after 1998 except F1, WRC and Nascar. What did they have to show for it? Ford had recently had an Escort on the podium in the highest class of rallycross for 6 seasons in a row. 2 of the was ERC champions! But no, Ford showed them the door. Only WRC or F1 or get ouit. The hubris of the Ford excecs still make me fume with anger.
Still one of my favourite liveries of all time, earliest were the best. The team was stylish but poorly run.
like already without watching
Superb piece of work. Ford/Jaaaaag and Toyota trying to impose their conservative corporate cultures on the fast paced and often rough and tumble world of F1 was never going to work. Decisions need to be made ASAP, not after a committee meeting or a call to Dearborn/Tokyo for approval
Why do I feel like there’s a team in blue who’s effectively the modern day equivalent of these hapless lot…😉😂😂
It’s not a million miles off.. wildly yo-yoing results.. regular management upheaval.. formerly race winners..
@@TheMobileChicane before being sold to a company with a history of success and then going on to dominate the next 1 and a half decades near enough… cough Andretti cough😉
Brilliant
OK I’m only through 2002 and the beginning of it at that, but is every position going to get a different person every year? How could a team ever succeed with a revolving door everywhere?
Maybe we should ask Alpine that..
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Stewart was doing better and better they should have kept them and just sent a bigger budget to do more. Maybe even fund jaguar the make an f1 engine in house ford engines and cosworth engines have not been good at that era. When I ever heard a f1 team using ford cosworth engine it means the team will be at the back.
Mark webber is a good driver he raced the Mercedes in le mans clk gt1 clk lm and the flipping clr gtp. Johnny Herbert is a good driver but getting older and really start to drive slow, steady Eddie Irvine has some experience but I would be questioning if he is fast driver or has the right attitude. barrichello was someone they should have kept and bring in frentzen too. Them to drivers would have helped drive the car to punch above its weight in race's even panis or trulli would be good to catch when prost failed
Hopefully their next try won't be a topic for a video in 20 years
Jaguars are not black, by default at least. I learned this recently.
I seem to remember an episode of QI where they informed us there was no such thing as a Jaguar at all!
This, alongside Toyota, is why I'll always say that big money funds F1 success, but it doesnt buy it
The people at Jaguar have the same knowledge as someone in the third league of Bulgaria
@7:26 if only Ford had agreed with Sir Jackie there. Would have been a different story. That's why Mercedes were able to enjoy so much success for so long, the brand let the race team just get on with it. Whereas Jaguar was blighted with the "it's the Ford way" nonsense.
Great job on putting together that video - a superb documentary with a great narrative and conclusion. I enjoyed it a lot.
I was waiting for this, I love your channel. Glad to have been there for nearly a year, your content is close to what CYMotorsport was doing 3/4 years back but nearly upgraded in every way, and this is no slight against the Cranky Yankee, because his content was amazing already. Keep going!
LETS GOOOO. I love this video. Nothin but straight quality from TheMobileChicane. I salute you for your work🫡
Also, I always feel like these companies that want to be worshipped like ferrari only see ferrari’s success as something that builds the tifosi. It’s their success, but equally important their continuation in the sport despite their constant failure that has their fans so loyal. The dedication and commitment to f1 that ferrari has is unmatched. Sure a couple titles and a dominant run will get you a loyal fan base. But you gotta stick around when things get tough for people to remain invested. Toyota, Honda, Ford, and BMW all failed to see that.
If I can add a little something, Burti was recommended by Jackie
You’re correct; something I only found out during editing, was that Burti somewhat of a protege of Stewart
One of my first memories is seeing Irvine driving the Jaguar and I was immediately mesmerized by it. To this day I think it´s a shame that they never won anything not even the "biggest Manufacturer loser of the 2000´s" Award
There is something about that leopard print helmet/racing green livery combination that’s quite iconic.
Jaguar were so incredibly frustrating to watch, full of potential but run into the ground by the bean counters. As for the diamond in the nose, I never quite bought that story. It all sounded to me like the diamond was never there and the "theft" story was another move to generate yet more publicity.
Interesting theory.. I could buy into it
IMO a combination of poor results, poor timing (manufacturers flocking in the 2000's), the success of Ford in other categories (the World Rally Championship in particular) and the political bickering in both the team and within Ford itself contributed to Jaguar's failed F1 tenure. To me Ford never really knew what to do with the Jaguar brand itself, let alone the F1 team bearing its name - who was their target audience to sell Jags to them? The reality was that the Jaguars of the late 90's and early 00's were pretty much your standard Ford family car (Ford Mondeo in particular) underneath. That was not going to cut it in a market where the Germans (Audi, BMW and Mercedes in particular) were ruling the roost. They've also had (as mentioned earlier) Volvo which was also somewhat positioned by Ford as a more upmarket brand to rival the Germans. And not long after the F1 team was sold, Jaguar and Land Rover were sold to the Indian manufacturer Tata in 2008. The Premier Automotive Group, which Jaguar was part of it, was abolished in 2010 when the last remaining brand - Volvo, was sold to Geely in 2010. Ford also had a controlling stake in Aston Martin, which was also part of the PAG, but Ford got rid of its involvement with the legendary sportscar brand in 2007, selling it to David Richards of Prodrive.
By far the best f1 content on RUclips, I always come back and rewatch vids and go on 2-3 hour binges of watching all your videos because they’re all top quality
Hey, thanks! I really appreciate that.
thanks for these outstanding videos, I seem to notice that you are a big fan of the Simpsons
Sorry can't go out tonight
Why?
The Mobile Chicane has uploaded
That was a quality hour spent. Lots of reminiscing. Thanks for making this video
surely this will blow up your channel. i hope.
Well done Mobile Chicane ! Salute from the F1ian app founder ! you are one of our app sources !
Absolutely banging video! The pacing was perfect.
that ocean's twelve thing was an advertising stunt, that didn't really happen. Nothing was stolen that day. But in any case: great video!
thank very video 👍
7:22 Joe Torre gettin in the F1 game..