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Yeah, I thought about the ending a lot. It was writing genius to insert us into the story as descendants. I ‘pretended’ Laura Roslin had children, through whom we could link our genetic tree. I swooned over her character.
Hey Templin... So, its been 20+ years since the show premiered... Could you do a video on the Jupiter class Battlestars or a special feature on Galactica?
Romulus Numa I warning you, after mid season 3 the series becomes a shitshow of religious bullshit and retarded plots that go nowhere, and the series finale is as bad as the one from Lost.
I'm guessing you mean Ralph McQuarrie? aka the guy who created the look and feel that Lucas needed for Star Wars, since he was hired to create the base designs for the original BSG. They hired him because he had just had his falling out with Lucas and hence was free. Glen A. Larson, the actual creator of BSG, while he claims to have created the "Wagon Train to the stars" type of story since he claims Gene Roddenberry stole his pitch for Star Trek (claims that the pitch doc for BSG was meant to have been written in the late 50's/early 60's). While the truth of that claim is up in the air, what was clear is that Larson wanted to mix his Mormon beliefs into the creation of a project that was set in space. Mormonism and BSG was interlinked from the very first episode. Hell, they outright had the crew battle Satan while working with space angels (City of/Ship of Light). So religion has always been at the core of the series, regardless of which version.
Would love to see a series based on the Cylon perspective: how after the first war they left, where they went, what they did, how the Original 5 made the 8 models, how Daniel got boxed, the original 'earth', which was a nuked wasteland when the Galactica got there...
There are things in Galactica canon and even deadlock that were never explained with any clarity that I had always wondered about... particularly locations... For example: - where is Djerba located in relation to the 12 colonies double binary solar system, and is it a planet or moon... - where is the Armistice station and armistice line in relation to the 12 colonies double binary solar system... spinward? anti-spinward? elsewhere? - locations and even names of the so called 'frontier' colonies in deadlock anabasis in relation to the 12 colonies double binary solar system.
I wished the colonies were flushed out more. Everyone is pretty much from Caprica, Tauron, and Picon. It be great to see folks from Libran. I imagine Libran being a mash up between Washington DC Los Angeles. So a mix of lawyer & legislator types with celebrities & hollywood types. It would also been interesting if they introduced that one of the colonies was still run by a monoarchy. Maybe a story for the Galactica reboot.
It is not just the corners that are cut in aesthetics befitting the legacy of the Twelve Colonies, the entire presentation is designed to mimic a holoband ( Like the ones used in pilot training BSG BLOOD AND CHROME) SO SAY WE ALL!! Quoted after Adm./Cmdr. William "Husker" Adama last Commanding Officer Battlestar Strike Group 75 Capital ship "GALACTICA"
Leave to the Templin Institute to put a smile on my face after such a crappy day with a video about on the greatest Sci-fi shows of the first decade of the new Millennium hands down thanks 😁
If you haven't seen the series. Skip the original seriers. Start with the reimagined series, then watch in any order Caprica, Blood and Chrome, the Plan, and Razor.
Makes you wonder. When Lee makes the idea of getting rid of all the technology and ships and to essentially go to a pre iron age setting to break the cycle. He is simply doing exactly what the original colonies did when they arrived on the 12 planets. So really, The cycle wasn't broken....It was simply restarted.
I wa just wondering: if all of this has happened before, then does that mean humanity is basically pulling a trail of worlds overtaken by their own creations behind in space. 'Cause if so, that is what one might call a fail of astronomical proportions.
3 dislikes.. So guess that's from Skynet, the Borg Queen and a random toaster.. Funny how someone remembered ancient Human zodiac and took it for new nation titles since they couldn't remember their origins.. apparently
@@yazanmowed i think, from what i can gather, as the saying in the show goes, "this story will happen time and time again. To some, it is beleived that the two Battlestar galactica shows are, in fact, not a reboot, but the same story. essentially, it happens over, and over again. Same names, but different people. Everytime Humanity advances, they create cylons, which rebel, destroy, causing humanity to restart on a new world. This could be a controlled experiment by the original Cylons to see how Humanity changes over time, as Cylons are always present no matter how many times the process repeats
It kinda said in a show that some higher entities, let's call them God and angels, are giving humanity opportunity to evolve time and time again... but each time Humanity destroys itself, mostly - in wars with enslaved AIs.
It should be noted that the Colonial fleet's might at the time of the Cylon invasion was far greater than that of the Cylons. Without the virus placed in the Colonial defense mainframe the it would have been the Cylons who suffered a total defeat.
Do you have any sources confirming this? For what I know, we have no clues regarding the strenght of the cylon fleet. It could have been hundred of baseships and endless fighters. Even without the virus, their attack would have packed a serious punch on the colonial defenses.
@@Stephen64138 The Battlestar Galactica Miniseries episode Night 1 stated that the Colonial Fleet boasted over 120 Battlestars and an unknown (but probably far greater) number of support ships, and during the battle of New Caprica later in the show one antiquated Battlestar that was being decommissioned at the start of the show, operating with a skeleton crew and no Viper support could hold off 2 fresh, fully armed and escorted Basestars with relative ease. It wasn't even in trouble until they were outflanked, surrounded and later overwhelmed by 4 Basestars. And even then it survived. 120 modern fully armed, properly crewed and escorted Battlestars with a full complement of Vipers would have completely obliterated the Cylon fleet in a straight up engagement. Sure, a few might've been lost but it would still have been a crushing and fatal defeat for the Cylons. Baltar's CNP backdoor virus was the lynchpin of their attack.
@@akiramasashi9317 Ok... I'm sorry but we will have to disagree on this. First of, during the miniserie, the Galactica did not hold off ''with relative ease'' against the cylons. It ran away from every engagements after few minutes of combat. Without being able to strike back directly at the enemy. They were nearly constantly on the defensive and the run during the show. In fact, the colonials in the show (up to mid season 3 when it got a little bit far fetched and really ''tv ish'') attacks the cyclons directly only 4 times that I know of at the moment (Cylon relay in Razor, Tylium refinery, Resurrection ship and Rescue on New Caprica). And even if we can count all these attacks as victories, they suffered heavy losses all the time. The Resurrection Ship battle is the most relevant example of a direct confrontation on equal grounds. 2 Battlestars vs 2 Baseships. And we know only for sure that they managed (not with ease) to destroy one baseship. I know there's some sources out there saying that the cylons are not match for the colonials and that 1 viper is worth 100 cylon raiders but allow me to laugh at this. It happens in all TV shows. At first, the ennemy is shown as super strong and it takes insane efforts to bring him down, and 2 season later they just die like flies to make more views and raise the hype. But this is crap and ridiculous. During the miniserie, Lee and Starbuck have a hard time against the cylons raiders. And later on, it's barely if they are a treat whatsoever. This is television... ^^ The cylon Baseships are designed to match the battlestars. And the battlestars are made (theoretically) to match their cylon's counterparts. And we know that the cylons have a lot of them. Also, even without the virus, you seem to forget that the cylons have infiltrated the colonial society at multiple levels. They know where are the colonies, how they work, what are their weeknesses, what to strike etc. They could have, even without the virus, launch the war, jumped into orbit, launched their missiles and jumped back. Even if 90% of the missiles had been intercepted, the colonies would have suffered tens if not perhaps hundreds of millions of deaths. In the first day. Moral would be down to the ground and that would have only be the start. And the cylons could have striked again any time while the colonials pretty much unable to strike back. (REMEMBER THAT THE CYLONS SHIPS CAN JUMP MUCH FARTHER THAN THE HUMAN ONES). This theoretical war could have last years or decades and left the colonies in a state of utter devastation. Yes, the colonials may have won this war. Humans are resourceful and with more ships, officers like Cain, a good leadership and some tech gap filler along the way to match the cylons on strategic level, the colonials may have won. But to say that it would have been easy, sorry but it's the same thing as people who say to me that the U.S. could defeat Russia easily... Nope. Not easily.
@@Stephen64138 We'll just have to agree to disagree. The reason the Colonials ran in almost every engagement is because they initially only had 1 real warship and their objective was to find Earth, not to battle the Cylons, and any damage done to Galactica or later to Pegasus would have been irreparable without drydocks and infrastructure. Adama knew this and only fought the absolute bare minimum of necessary battles. Pegasus had the facilities to produce new Vipers and train new pilots but fixing Battlestars and replacing personnel on those takes a lot more. During The Battle of the Resurrection Ship the Pegasus and Galactica purposefully didn't come in guns blazing since they had to take out the Resurrection Ship's FTL first with the Stealth Viper. During the New Caprica battle the Pegasus' forward guns cut through a Basestar in one volley, and Galactica survived a minutes long pounding from 4 ships. If Lee Adama wasn't such a worthless commander he could have destroyed all 4 Basestars in short order, but he came into the battle fully committed to sacrificing his ship. And yes, colonial society was infiltrated at multiple levels, but all of those were with the sole purpose of finding a weakness in the Colonial defenses, which the CNP backdoor virus became, and they'd still be stuck on the Colonies. And I seriously doubt the Cylons could just jump in, do their thing and jump out again. It takes time to prime nukes and to charge up their FTL again, even if they could jump further. Maybe if they suicide crashed into the planets themselves they could do some serious damage but otherwise planetary defenses would intercept everything. Even *IF* a handful of nukes actually landed and destroyed a couple of cities on less defended words it would just stoke the Colonials' fury even further. They produced 120+ capital ships in peacetime, with older model ships being decommissioned to serve as Museums. With a war economy and thirst for vengeance they would utterly overwhelm the Cylons. Just how many ships could the Colonial Navy bring out of Mothballs on short notice if even the legendary Galactica was being decommissioned? How many more would be built in the months that followed? Even if the Cylon Colony was never found every Cylon battlegroup would be outnumbered and outgunned. The roles would essentially be reversed, with Cylons running halfway across the universe. Humanity managed to win during the 1st Cylon War when they were outnumbered and outgunned and were hit with a surprise rebellion from within. They only had a small handful of Battlestars to defend 12 worlds with back then. With the Colonies fully armed and defended against an outside threat with *120* Battlestars the Cylon attack would have been completely eradicated and the vast bulk if not the entirety of their military would've been lost in one fell swoop. It would not only be easy for the colonials, it would have been an overwhelming, crushing victory.
I listened to another Templin analysis that indicated the Cylons either didn’t think they’d be successful, or didn’t think they’d survive, a protracted conflict with the Colonials. Their strategy involved…well, we know what their strategy was. There’s no way it would be easy to defeat the Cylons, but given what we know of the fleet strength of the Colonies and what we learned of the Cylons from the series, it’s pretty clear the Colonials would have eventually crushed the Cylons. But it’s irrelevant, because the Cylons would never attack in that fashion unless they amassed overwhelming superiority first. They’re machines; they can do the math. Plus they’re patient. And with Resurrection technology, they’ll always have the ability to survive the casualty count. Great conversation. Even though I’ve watched the series four times, I’m still learning so much lore that every series binge still has newness about the storyline to me. For example, I didn’t know there were 120 BattleStars, nor that 30 were wiped out in hours. Comments like these are awesome for looking into details that heighten the taste of the story.
Well all the major cities were nuked so we could assume that those in small towns and villages put up some resistance like the sports team near Caprica city. So it may have taken longer but the end results were the same.
IKR! And all it took was a mere 40 years of planning and rearming. The Colonials never should have agreed to an armistice and pursued the cylons across the galaxy.
1) I never gave any thought to astrology, but the second I heard the planet's names I immediately started siding with Leonis. 2) Damn those Cylons are evil. Who on earth decides to show up after 40 years, kill 50 billion people and destroy a dozen planets, and not give a second thought?
Id be Geminon, which would be a death sentence because Im an atheist (Geminoians are deeply religious). Funnily enough, all their evilness comes from one of the skin jobs (human form cylons) having daddy issues, Im not kidding, thats the background plot xD
Great Video appreciate your avoidance of spoilers for the Nuggets. One point though, The 12 Colonies were not located in one solar system they were spread out across FOUR the systems Helios Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Delta. Still patiently waiting on that Systems Commonwealth and Peacekeeper vids.
Though the 12 colonies orbited 4 different stars, they're referred to as 'Cyrannus' as a whole. It's unknown if each star is its own solar system or if it's just one system with four stars. I believe the latter is the most widely accepted one, though.
That's the Fiction in Science Fiction, it's actually way more probable than inventing Artificial Gravity which is a fantastical concept at best . Watch the whole series to the end and then we can talk about Far-Fetched aspects of the series lol
After Starbuck returned the arrow to the Apollo statue in the temple, what did the revealed constellations represent? Were the twelve colonies all in the same star system? If they were in the same star system, how would they be visualized across the sky on Earth?
The thirteen tribe was the first tribe to leave Kobol. When set they finally set foot on Earth, they look up to the night sky and saw twelve constellations. Each of those constellations represented the remaining twelve tribes that were still on Kobol. The twelve tribes eventually left Kobol too, and after milenia settle on the Cyrannus star system. The Cyrannus system was a quadruple star system, with 4 stars that orbit each other (look the map below). Cyrannus star system map: vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/caprica/images/9/98/Quantum_Mechanix_The_Twelve_Colonies_of_Kobol.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180528160928
Can you please create a playlist just for Battlestar Galactica? I noticed you don’t have one now. Also, can you create more/new Battlestar Galactica vids now that all episodes are available for free on NBC’s Peacock App? People who’ve never watched the series, like me, and are doing so now. But, we really could use your expert videos going over everything from ship details, lore, battles, timeline, characters, technology, etc. If I was in your shoes then I’d also contact Peacock about the playlist, your stat numbers regarding subscribers and vid views, etc as they might even advertise and support the channel if you had a lot of content about Battlestar Galactica!
I was waiting for that memoment. When I saw your channel (Despite when I found about you, it was a video that I was not interested with) I knew you will create content from series/movies I like. Later you created videos about Klingong and Romulan and I knew that soon you will create a video regarding my favorite series of all times, Battlestar Galactica and you did it. Thank you for doing it and I look forward for more of your videos in the future. So say we all
So the question I had was never really answered in the show. Just HOW are the 12 colonies situated? Is there literally a star system with 12 habitable planets the Kobol refugees located?
Originally, yes. But this was later retconed in favor of a quadrary (I hope I spelled that word right) star system, 4 stars orbiting a common barycenter within less then a light year from each other. Here is a link to a map ^^ upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Map_of_the_Twelve_Colonies.svg
“The war is OVER. We lost. We need to run, go anywhere. And we need to start making babies.” “Babies.” “Yes, Commander Adama. Babies.” Show wasn’t ALL dark.
0:08 There's some Aurebesh hidden in there, which is known from Star Wars. What's that doing in Battlestar Galactica? I've already watched some of the remake, but clearly not all of them. I hope to watch all of them at some point.
@The Templin Institute - I know the reason how the Cylons got access: they worked with Dr. Baldar on the navigation software which contained malware , both was installed on fleet system which are all interconnected ( = fatal flaw that granted total access incl. powering down the reactors) except the Galactica that still has NO networking due to the Cylon war era ... the Pegasus which was in the dock just in time recognized the malware & escaped.
4:45 The wheel of time. Advocates believe that when one cycle of the twelve astrological ages is completed, another cycle of twelve ages begins.[1] The length of one cycle of twelve ages is 25,860 years. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_age
I would love to work for your channel, particularly to “clean-up,” improve and better organize your PLAYLIST section. I highly recommend you expand this section to literally create a playlist for each show, movie, book, etc. For example, create one for Battlestar Galactica and one for Dune, and so on and so forth. I’d LOVE to do this for you as I’m an independent contractor who manages clients social media or sometimes works as a substitute helper instead of total management. Your channel is amazing and I’ve been watching, recommending, have subscribed and get all alerts. Keep up the outstanding work and let me know if you want or need help improving your playlist section.
The only problem is that no ones gives a shit about what Ronald Moore ideas about the ending, the fourth season of Battlestar Galactica piss off so many fans that totally destroyed the follow Caprica TV Show, I not think that would call Moore to be in anymore Battlestar proyects in the future.
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More 40k pls. Thanks.
make a video of the principality of belka
+Antonio NO THE PRINCIPALITY OF ZEON NEXT!
hell no Principality Of Belka
NO MORE MISTER NICE GAIUS!
An intense history of infighting when it happens.
The depth of this story is beyond epic. It could easily be humanity's forgotten past.
Spoilers*
My dog punched me out of the universe
Yeah, I thought about the ending a lot. It was writing genius to insert us into the story as descendants. I ‘pretended’ Laura Roslin had children, through whom we could link our genetic tree. I swooned over her character.
Why weren't a counter cylons robot series made to fight the cylons?
Huh. Interesting question.
Beautifully Told...
Hey Templin... So, its been 20+ years since the show premiered... Could you do a video on the Jupiter class Battlestars or a special feature on Galactica?
"Sometimes, you have to roll a hard six."
Mmhmmm
6:45 Woah they have Chrysler 300s on Caprica too!
Freakin' awesome lore. BSG was really peak Sci-fi
Cylons be like : you got some nice colonies out here ... it would be a shame if someone ..... NUKED THEM !
I knew what Battlestar Galactica was about but some how I didn't think it would be this dark.
It's a great show but it's dogged in politics and religious goings on that in the end answer absolutely no questions.
oh this doesn't even do justice to how dark it was.
Romulus Numa I warning you, after mid season 3 the series becomes a shitshow of religious bullshit and retarded plots that go nowhere, and the series finale is as bad as the one from Lost.
SpockBorg5 what are you talking about? The original series was a shameful Star Wars clone mixed with LDS bullcrap.
I'm guessing you mean Ralph McQuarrie? aka the guy who created the look and feel that Lucas needed for Star Wars, since he was hired to create the base designs for the original BSG. They hired him because he had just had his falling out with Lucas and hence was free.
Glen A. Larson, the actual creator of BSG, while he claims to have created the "Wagon Train to the stars" type of story since he claims Gene Roddenberry stole his pitch for Star Trek (claims that the pitch doc for BSG was meant to have been written in the late 50's/early 60's). While the truth of that claim is up in the air, what was clear is that Larson wanted to mix his Mormon beliefs into the creation of a project that was set in space. Mormonism and BSG was interlinked from the very first episode. Hell, they outright had the crew battle Satan while working with space angels (City of/Ship of Light). So religion has always been at the core of the series, regardless of which version.
Nothing but the rain.
Would love to see a series based on the Cylon perspective: how after the first war they left, where they went, what they did, how the Original 5 made the 8 models, how Daniel got boxed, the original 'earth', which was a nuked wasteland when the Galactica got there...
Yes
120 battlestars? The Cylons are already hav difficultly taking down 2 of them. Imagine how strong the 120 will be.
High above Earth the ISS picks up a signal.....
Well done!
There are things in Galactica canon and even deadlock that were never explained with any clarity that I had always wondered about... particularly locations... For example:
- where is Djerba located in relation to the 12 colonies double binary solar system, and is it a planet or moon...
- where is the Armistice station and armistice line in relation to the 12 colonies double binary solar system... spinward? anti-spinward? elsewhere?
- locations and even names of the so called 'frontier' colonies in deadlock anabasis in relation to the 12 colonies double binary solar system.
I never watched Battlestar Galactica, the original or the remake…
…But now I want to.
Same
I think the entire series is up on Hulu. It's a fantastic show
The reimagined series was just fraking awesome. Some of the Cylons were really hot!
The remake is really amazing tbh
the remake is just GARBAGE! The Original IS Battlestar Galactica!
I wished the colonies were flushed out more. Everyone is pretty much from Caprica, Tauron, and Picon. It be great to see folks from Libran. I imagine Libran being a mash up between Washington DC Los Angeles. So a mix of lawyer & legislator types with celebrities & hollywood types. It would also been interesting if they introduced that one of the colonies was still run by a monoarchy. Maybe a story for the Galactica reboot.
Beautiful video.
Nice touch with the corners.
Thank you! I've been waiting for someone to mention this.
I didn't notice this till I read your post, but yes, VERY COOL! 😆😀☺
So say we all!
Still cutting them ;-)
It is not just the corners that are cut in aesthetics befitting the legacy of the Twelve Colonies, the entire presentation is designed to mimic a holoband ( Like the ones used in pilot training BSG BLOOD AND CHROME)
SO SAY WE ALL!!
Quoted after Adm./Cmdr. William "Husker" Adama last Commanding Officer Battlestar Strike Group 75 Capital ship "GALACTICA"
Great video!
Leave to the Templin Institute to put a smile on my face after such a crappy day with a video about on the greatest Sci-fi shows of the first decade of the new Millennium hands down thanks 😁
If you haven't seen the series. Skip the original seriers. Start with the reimagined series, then watch in any order Caprica, Blood and Chrome, the Plan, and Razor.
Fraking Cylons.
chancellorjake and the moment you get to know their motivations... It gets much worse/petty
Remember the term toaster is racist
@@brianlindee588 Racist, or Specist? The Cylons aren't humans, even though they look like us.
@Maria Kelly OK. Fraking, Toasters!
They are still out there
and I wonder how their Evolution panned out
Makes you wonder.
When Lee makes the idea of getting rid of all the technology and ships and to essentially go to a pre iron age setting to break the cycle. He is simply doing exactly what the original colonies did when they arrived on the 12 planets.
So really, The cycle wasn't broken....It was simply restarted.
I wa just wondering: if all of this has happened before, then does that mean humanity is basically pulling a trail of worlds overtaken by their own creations behind in space. 'Cause if so, that is what one might call a fail of astronomical proportions.
Nice job!
My thinking was a lack of resources on each planet kept space trade going in the early days. But thats just me.
Sometimes you gotta roll the hard six...
I'm so glad I found this channel
3 dislikes.. So guess that's from Skynet, the Borg Queen and a random toaster..
Funny how someone remembered ancient Human zodiac and took it for new nation titles since they couldn't remember their origins.. apparently
If Kobol was a controlled experiment then it's plausible.
@@mattmercer8269 Can you please elaborate?
@@mattmercer8269 it isn't
@@yazanmowed i think, from what i can gather, as the saying in the show goes, "this story will happen time and time again. To some, it is beleived that the two Battlestar galactica shows are, in fact, not a reboot, but the same story. essentially, it happens over, and over again. Same names, but different people. Everytime Humanity advances, they create cylons, which rebel, destroy, causing humanity to restart on a new world. This could be a controlled experiment by the original Cylons to see how Humanity changes over time, as Cylons are always present no matter how many times the process repeats
It kinda said in a show that some higher entities, let's call them God and angels, are giving humanity opportunity to evolve time and time again... but each time Humanity destroys itself, mostly - in wars with enslaved AIs.
Don't think I ever heard of the UNITED colonies...
Sometimes you have to roll the hard six.
Damn the Cylons.
The Forgotten: C&C Tiberian Sun
Love Battlestap Galactica
Its ironic how history keeps repeating again
My dream, to be a Battlestar commander.
STILL AMAZING
Right off the bat, humanities supposed true homeworld was on Kobol.
Hrm... we can't treat people like appliances, anymore. Ah HA! I know... let's make our appliances more humanlike. What could possibly go wrong?
It should be noted that the Colonial fleet's might at the time of the Cylon invasion was far greater than that of the Cylons. Without the virus placed in the Colonial defense mainframe the it would have been the Cylons who suffered a total defeat.
Do you have any sources confirming this?
For what I know, we have no clues regarding the strenght of the cylon fleet. It could have been hundred of baseships and endless fighters. Even without the virus, their attack would have packed a serious punch on the colonial defenses.
@@Stephen64138 The Battlestar Galactica Miniseries episode Night 1 stated that the Colonial Fleet boasted over 120 Battlestars and an unknown (but probably far greater) number of support ships, and during the battle of New Caprica later in the show one antiquated Battlestar that was being decommissioned at the start of the show, operating with a skeleton crew and no Viper support could hold off 2 fresh, fully armed and escorted Basestars with relative ease. It wasn't even in trouble until they were outflanked, surrounded and later overwhelmed by 4 Basestars. And even then it survived. 120 modern fully armed, properly crewed and escorted Battlestars with a full complement of Vipers would have completely obliterated the Cylon fleet in a straight up engagement. Sure, a few might've been lost but it would still have been a crushing and fatal defeat for the Cylons. Baltar's CNP backdoor virus was the lynchpin of their attack.
@@akiramasashi9317 Ok... I'm sorry but we will have to disagree on this. First of, during the miniserie, the Galactica did not hold off ''with relative ease'' against the cylons. It ran away from every engagements after few minutes of combat. Without being able to strike back directly at the enemy. They were nearly constantly on the defensive and the run during the show.
In fact, the colonials in the show (up to mid season 3 when it got a little bit far fetched and really ''tv ish'') attacks the cyclons directly only 4 times that I know of at the moment (Cylon relay in Razor, Tylium refinery, Resurrection ship and Rescue on New Caprica). And even if we can count all these attacks as victories, they suffered heavy losses all the time.
The Resurrection Ship battle is the most relevant example of a direct confrontation on equal grounds. 2 Battlestars vs 2 Baseships. And we know only for sure that they managed (not with ease) to destroy one baseship.
I know there's some sources out there saying that the cylons are not match for the colonials and that 1 viper is worth 100 cylon raiders but allow me to laugh at this. It happens in all TV shows. At first, the ennemy is shown as super strong and it takes insane efforts to bring him down, and 2 season later they just die like flies to make more views and raise the hype.
But this is crap and ridiculous. During the miniserie, Lee and Starbuck have a hard time against the cylons raiders. And later on, it's barely if they are a treat whatsoever. This is television... ^^
The cylon Baseships are designed to match the battlestars. And the battlestars are made (theoretically) to match their cylon's counterparts. And we know that the cylons have a lot of them.
Also, even without the virus, you seem to forget that the cylons have infiltrated the colonial society at multiple levels. They know where are the colonies, how they work, what are their weeknesses, what to strike etc. They could have, even without the virus, launch the war, jumped into orbit, launched their missiles and jumped back. Even if 90% of the missiles had been intercepted, the colonies would have suffered tens if not perhaps hundreds of millions of deaths. In the first day. Moral would be down to the ground and that would have only be the start. And the cylons could have striked again any time while the colonials pretty much unable to strike back. (REMEMBER THAT THE CYLONS SHIPS CAN JUMP MUCH FARTHER THAN THE HUMAN ONES). This theoretical war could have last years or decades and left the colonies in a state of utter devastation.
Yes, the colonials may have won this war. Humans are resourceful and with more ships, officers like Cain, a good leadership and some tech gap filler along the way to match the cylons on strategic level, the colonials may have won.
But to say that it would have been easy, sorry but it's the same thing as people who say to me that the U.S. could defeat Russia easily... Nope. Not easily.
@@Stephen64138 We'll just have to agree to disagree. The reason the Colonials ran in almost every engagement is because they initially only had 1 real warship and their objective was to find Earth, not to battle the Cylons, and any damage done to Galactica or later to Pegasus would have been irreparable without drydocks and infrastructure. Adama knew this and only fought the absolute bare minimum of necessary battles. Pegasus had the facilities to produce new Vipers and train new pilots but fixing Battlestars and replacing personnel on those takes a lot more. During The Battle of the Resurrection Ship the Pegasus and Galactica purposefully didn't come in guns blazing since they had to take out the Resurrection Ship's FTL first with the Stealth Viper. During the New Caprica battle the Pegasus' forward guns cut through a Basestar in one volley, and Galactica survived a minutes long pounding from 4 ships. If Lee Adama wasn't such a worthless commander he could have destroyed all 4 Basestars in short order, but he came into the battle fully committed to sacrificing his ship.
And yes, colonial society was infiltrated at multiple levels, but all of those were with the sole purpose of finding a weakness in the Colonial defenses, which the CNP backdoor virus became, and they'd still be stuck on the Colonies. And I seriously doubt the Cylons could just jump in, do their thing and jump out again. It takes time to prime nukes and to charge up their FTL again, even if they could jump further. Maybe if they suicide crashed into the planets themselves they could do some serious damage but otherwise planetary defenses would intercept everything. Even *IF* a handful of nukes actually landed and destroyed a couple of cities on less defended words it would just stoke the Colonials' fury even further. They produced 120+ capital ships in peacetime, with older model ships being decommissioned to serve as Museums. With a war economy and thirst for vengeance they would utterly overwhelm the Cylons. Just how many ships could the Colonial Navy bring out of Mothballs on short notice if even the legendary Galactica was being decommissioned? How many more would be built in the months that followed? Even if the Cylon Colony was never found every Cylon battlegroup would be outnumbered and outgunned. The roles would essentially be reversed, with Cylons running halfway across the universe.
Humanity managed to win during the 1st Cylon War when they were outnumbered and outgunned and were hit with a surprise rebellion from within. They only had a small handful of Battlestars to defend 12 worlds with back then. With the Colonies fully armed and defended against an outside threat with *120* Battlestars the Cylon attack would have been completely eradicated and the vast bulk if not the entirety of their military would've been lost in one fell swoop.
It would not only be easy for the colonials, it would have been an overwhelming, crushing victory.
I listened to another Templin analysis that indicated the Cylons either didn’t think they’d be successful, or didn’t think they’d survive, a protracted conflict with the Colonials. Their strategy involved…well, we know what their strategy was.
There’s no way it would be easy to defeat the Cylons, but given what we know of the fleet strength of the Colonies and what we learned of the Cylons from the series, it’s pretty clear the Colonials would have eventually crushed the Cylons.
But it’s irrelevant, because the Cylons would never attack in that fashion unless they amassed overwhelming superiority first. They’re machines; they can do the math. Plus they’re patient. And with Resurrection technology, they’ll always have the ability to survive the casualty count.
Great conversation. Even though I’ve watched the series four times, I’m still learning so much lore that every series binge still has newness about the storyline to me. For example, I didn’t know there were 120 BattleStars, nor that 30 were wiped out in hours. Comments like these are awesome for looking into details that heighten the taste of the story.
Again, and again, and again, and again... like my rewatching of the series :)
Make a fun one: make one about the kerbal space center from the game kerbal space programm by using the flavortext of the ingame parts.
Sheesh all 12 worlds with 50 billion people lost in a day?!
Well all the major cities were nuked so we could assume that those in small towns and villages put up some resistance like the sports team near Caprica city.
So it may have taken longer but the end results were the same.
IKR!
And all it took was a mere 40 years of planning and rearming. The Colonials never should have agreed to an armistice and pursued the cylons across the galaxy.
1) I never gave any thought to astrology, but the second I heard the planet's names I immediately started siding with Leonis.
2) Damn those Cylons are evil. Who on earth decides to show up after 40 years, kill 50 billion people and destroy a dozen planets, and not give a second thought?
Id be Geminon, which would be a death sentence because Im an atheist (Geminoians are deeply religious).
Funnily enough, all their evilness comes from one of the skin jobs (human form cylons) having daddy issues, Im not kidding, thats the background plot xD
There is always a epic feel to these presentations.
A professional feel and style are always present.
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SO SAY WE ALL !!!
>Advanced, spacefaring society.
>Overpopulation is a problem.
>Battlestar Galactica.
I'd kill for a new BSG show
Great Video appreciate your avoidance of spoilers for the Nuggets. One point though, The 12 Colonies were not located in one solar system they were spread out across FOUR the systems Helios Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Delta. Still patiently waiting on that Systems Commonwealth and Peacekeeper vids.
Though the 12 colonies orbited 4 different stars, they're referred to as 'Cyrannus' as a whole. It's unknown if each star is its own solar system or if it's just one system with four stars. I believe the latter is the most widely accepted one, though.
Sultan it is, there was a official cannon map made by QMx that shows each in detail.
I love the map but still four ultra-habitable systems orbiting each other seems a little bit far-fetched.
That's the Fiction in Science Fiction, it's actually way more probable than inventing Artificial Gravity which is a fantastical concept at best . Watch the whole series to the end and then we can talk about Far-Fetched aspects of the series lol
+Matt Mercer I'm sure it's possible. There are million of stars out there.
At 3:22 there is pre cylon war valkyrie class battlestar in the bottom left
Holy Crap! Those Cylons are brutal!
After Starbuck returned the arrow to the Apollo statue in the temple, what did the revealed constellations represent? Were the twelve colonies all in the same star system? If they were in the same star system, how would they be visualized across the sky on Earth?
The thirteen tribe was the first tribe to leave Kobol. When set they finally set foot on Earth, they look up to the night sky and saw twelve constellations. Each of those constellations represented the remaining twelve tribes that were still on Kobol. The twelve tribes eventually left Kobol too, and after milenia settle on the Cyrannus star system. The Cyrannus system was a quadruple star system, with 4 stars that orbit each other (look the map below).
Cyrannus star system map: vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/caprica/images/9/98/Quantum_Mechanix_The_Twelve_Colonies_of_Kobol.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180528160928
thanks for putting everything in a row.
This video earned you a subscription.
Dominion from starcraft 1 & 2
Can you please create a playlist just for Battlestar Galactica? I noticed you don’t have one now. Also, can you create more/new Battlestar Galactica vids now that all episodes are available for free on NBC’s Peacock App? People who’ve never watched the series, like me, and are doing so now. But, we really could use your expert videos going over everything from ship details, lore, battles, timeline, characters, technology, etc.
If I was in your shoes then I’d also contact Peacock about the playlist, your stat numbers regarding subscribers and vid views, etc as they might even advertise and support the channel if you had a lot of content about Battlestar Galactica!
My absolute favorite! Thanks!
By your Command!
I want a prequel on how the kobol people migrated to the 12 colonies
the resistanse from terminator and colonial marines
Did we ever find out WHY all of this has happened before and will happen again?
I was waiting for that memoment. When I saw your channel (Despite when I found about you, it was a video that I was not interested with) I knew you will create content from series/movies I like. Later you created videos about Klingong and Romulan and I knew that soon you will create a video regarding my favorite series of all times, Battlestar Galactica and you did it. Thank you for doing it and I look forward for more of your videos in the future. So say we all
Keep it classic...and know this happened so many yarns ago.
They need to make a spin off of bsg called kobol
The Horde from World of Warcraft would be really cool to see
All of this has happened before, and it will happen again
So the question I had was never really answered in the show. Just HOW are the 12 colonies situated? Is there literally a star system with 12 habitable planets the Kobol refugees located?
Originally, yes. But this was later retconed in favor of a quadrary (I hope I spelled that word right) star system, 4 stars orbiting a common barycenter within less then a light year from each other.
Here is a link to a map ^^
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Map_of_the_Twelve_Colonies.svg
Could we see an episode covering the original Battlestar Galactica from 1978?
I don't think enough is known about that, for an episode.
Excellent positivity excellent expounding on what happen to the 12 tribes. More pleaseeee
“The war is OVER. We lost. We need to run, go anywhere. And we need to start making babies.”
“Babies.”
“Yes, Commander Adama. Babies.”
Show wasn’t ALL dark.
0:08 There's some Aurebesh hidden in there, which is known from Star Wars. What's that doing in Battlestar Galactica?
I've already watched some of the remake, but clearly not all of them. I hope to watch all of them at some point.
someone should do a video on cylons, MANY types, and how they ALL got created
The cylons where monotheistic imagine that
Truly well done.
Battlestar galactica is great like this ❤❤❤❤
What the name of the solar system of the 12 colonies?
Cyrannus.
You should cover the various Republics that form after The Blackout in NBC's "Revolution" .
Hell yeah. Sign me up! I just hope it's not regurgitating all thats gone before and leaves room for new characters and new stuff.
OMG I just discovered this channel and I’m so happy I wish I could kiss you guys this is the coolest channel I’ve ever found
So Say We All!
Andrew Hocker So say we all!
When the cycle begins again remember to add be nice to ais to the scrolls
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'' SO SAY WE ALL ''
How did you not notice the music is too damn loud?
Your narrator is bloody marvellous.
She has the perfect voice for this.
Excellent tone and pitch.
Reminds me of the First Officer Cadet on the Valiant in DS9's episode 'Valiant'. A great authoritative voice.
Agreed
Wonderful, magnificent video! Thanks!!!
@The Templin Institute -
I know the reason how the Cylons got access: they worked with Dr. Baldar on the navigation software which contained malware , both was installed on fleet system which are all interconnected ( = fatal flaw that granted total access incl. powering down the reactors) except the Galactica that still has NO networking due to the Cylon war era ... the Pegasus which was in the dock just in time recognized the malware & escaped.
"All hands, prepare for turbulence."
Awesome video!
Short, sweet and to the point. Another great video.
4:45
The wheel of time.
Advocates believe that when one cycle of the twelve astrological ages is completed, another cycle of twelve ages begins.[1] The length of one cycle of twelve ages is 25,860 years.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_age
And the survivors of this will repeat the same mistakes because in this universe you just can't learn.
I would love to work for your channel, particularly to “clean-up,” improve and better organize your PLAYLIST section. I highly recommend you expand this section to literally create a playlist for each show, movie, book, etc. For example, create one for Battlestar Galactica and one for Dune, and so on and so forth. I’d LOVE to do this for you as I’m an independent contractor who manages clients social media or sometimes works as a substitute helper instead of total management.
Your channel is amazing and I’ve been watching, recommending, have subscribed and get all alerts. Keep up the outstanding work and let me know if you want or need help improving your playlist section.
So say we all!
Suggestion: The Terran Empire (Star Trek, The original series, Deep Space Nine, Enterprise, Discovery).
According to the end of the re-imagined, we're descended from Cylons.
The only problem is that no ones gives a shit about what Ronald Moore ideas about the ending, the fourth season of Battlestar Galactica piss off so many fans that totally destroyed the follow Caprica TV Show, I not think that would call Moore to be in anymore Battlestar proyects in the future.
So say we all... that was beautiful. 👍🏻👍🏻
So comforting to see the battlestars ablaze!