People need to stop complaining and understand what the systems are for. It's a fire alarm, it's not meant to relax you. Before he retired, my dad worked for the township and they did a fire drill the system was changed to EST system with EST integrity horn strobes in the old section and voice evac in the new sections/additions. Keep in mind, these are all adults and they wined like little kids "That hurts my ears!"
@@tw3145wallenstein in my last semester of college they did a fire drill at around 8:00 pm and I was waiting for a friend to get the pizza we ordered since I couldn’t carry it with my crutches and the interconnected smoke detector with sounder base was right above my head and that high pitched sound felt like it was piercing my head. It was still warm outside so I didn’t even put my shoes on. I grabbed my crutches and ID and got the hell out of dodge! By the time I got outside I had a headache.
As a firefighter when we were dispatched to a fire alarm call, when giving an arrival size-up if there was an audible alarm heard we would say alarm bells were ringing. We had many old systems like this (Late 80s into the 90s). Or “bells & lights” if both audible & visual alarms were found. Many of the old timers still use this terminology. Lol, a nice throwback!
bells are easy you don't really need a lift it was just there so I thought I would use it and zip down the hallways so others could use the ladders in the tighter areas
@@nics-systems-electric with a 6ft stepladder with your arms all the way out it’s not very easy, and adding on to that, my company installed Edwards LED Genesis single gang horns, which don’t have brackets so they’re more painful to install
Oh cool!! That 6500 annunciator has exactly as I long suspected with these units; an Edwards electromechanical horn buzzer which is what was used in the original Honeywell TC49A household smoke alarms/detectors back in the mid 70’s. Always wanted to see what those looked like inside and that one appears to be circa 1972. Very very cool vintage system and as sad as it is to see it getting retired you know what this means…more Durabels for New Years 2024/25!
Aaah... There's a blast to my childhood... I had those bells right through my school life - and, in high school, they did double duty as the end of session bells, too. Never knew that kicking a button off the wall would activate the fire alarm until I came out of a classroom where I had been talking to a teacher to find the alarm going off and the button assembly at 45 degrees from the wall...
What precautions do you have to put in place when putting a schools fire alarm out of service? I imagine it's done over the holidays, so theirs nobody there whilst this takes place, but what happens overnight, is the building left unattended without fire alarms? (I'm from NZ, so not sure of when school holidays are for NA)
And were the bells from this school the bells that you were referring to during the NYE sound off? that's cool if you get to keep the old stuff from deservicing systems like this!
Good uploads Nic .. Definitely will inspire other's to learn & take up the craft( keep learning ) Im going to promote you here in America!! I may come to Canada for a US Embassy one day
Those old Edwards pulls with protective guards over them in the gymnasium, I would've also put some kind of protection over the new NBG-12LX pulls, preferably STI's Stopper II covers. I've often seen that with newer fire alarm systems in a building with a gymnasium, as more often than not they may have Stopper covers over the gymnasium pulls but not the others.
What would you do if you and your family were on vacation or something (just not at home for a while) and you got a notification that the alarms are going off at your house. Would you immediately call the fire department or would you have a neighbor check your house? Also, have you considered creating a Discord server for your viewers to chat on?
I have a question. On some BG12lx I see a second keyhole on the I of the FIRE or the side and I don't know what is it for?. Sometimes I see some break glass call points by system sensor also have a second keyhole on the side.
7:03 New Edwards logo on a M10-24. When did the MB10-24s have the current logo? I've seen lots MB10-24s with the old label, but I've been seeing some new MB10-24s with the new Edwards logo.
Why do I feel like the bells in schools are just old school and people used school bell tones and addressesble fire alarms nowadays keep up the good work 👍👍
05:42 An L-Series horn strobe that has the date code of 3033 which is close to 3034 and 3035 as that's the numbers of the recalled low frequency sounders. But if you were able to order a batch of low frequency sounders on this date then you would likely get a recalled one due to the time you order them will give you this certain date code batch of devices and it depends on the area you live in
Needs to be listed under the compatibility list of that panel to have been tested and have an updated current draw rating for doing calculations therefore a usual upgrade replaces the A/V devices
Not this project it's already done devices are already ordered and installed. Future upgrades that don't have the equipment already may get them once stock of the Zenon versions are gone
If eols in the same box as strobes is illegal then my school is blatantly being illegal they have Eol listed on some strobes and horns. Also on strobes what does a number like 100-10 mean
Assuming they've got ULC/CSA listing probably a few months until all of the old stock is gone a lot of jobs have the devices pre-ordered and assigned for that project so it could be a while
Hi how are u ok today nick u do a rally good job on here there good work on here nick I hop we can be friends with u nick u do a rally good job on here form Greg
Hey nice video!! Are they hiring?? I would love working there for a while to practice my english! I will do my best!! Would be a nice experience! Stay safe and have fun!! ...
People need to stop complaining and understand what the systems are for. It's a fire alarm, it's not meant to relax you. Before he retired, my dad worked for the township and they did a fire drill the system was changed to EST system with EST integrity horn strobes in the old section and voice evac in the new sections/additions. Keep in mind, these are all adults and they wined like little kids "That hurts my ears!"
it hurts your ears? Good it will get you out of the building faster :P
@@tw3145wallenstein in my last semester of college they did a fire drill at around 8:00 pm and I was waiting for a friend to get the pizza we ordered since I couldn’t carry it with my crutches and the interconnected smoke detector with sounder base was right above my head and that high pitched sound felt like it was piercing my head. It was still warm outside so I didn’t even put my shoes on. I grabbed my crutches and ID and got the hell out of dodge! By the time I got outside I had a headache.
They can complain if they want
@@MrKal222@ MrKal222, I know that if they want quiet fire alarms, they should go work for a hospital or other place that has noise restrictions.
@@GaryBeltzwell fire alarms are loud and supposed to be it's the law if they don't like it stay home
As a firefighter when we were dispatched to a fire alarm call, when giving an arrival size-up if there was an audible alarm heard we would say alarm bells were ringing. We had many old systems like this (Late 80s into the 90s). Or “bells & lights” if both audible & visual alarms were found. Many of the old timers still use this terminology. Lol, a nice throwback!
Replacing the bells with the scissor lift looks so nice, all the time i’ve done bell replacements was just with a stepladder and it’s not easy
bells are easy you don't really need a lift it was just there so I thought I would use it and zip down the hallways so others could use the ladders in the tighter areas
@@nics-systems-electric with a 6ft stepladder with your arms all the way out it’s not very easy, and adding on to that, my company installed Edwards LED Genesis single gang horns, which don’t have brackets so they’re more painful to install
Oh cool!! That 6500 annunciator has exactly as I long suspected with these units; an Edwards electromechanical horn buzzer which is what was used in the original Honeywell TC49A household smoke alarms/detectors back in the mid 70’s. Always wanted to see what those looked like inside and that one appears to be circa 1972. Very very cool vintage system and as sad as it is to see it getting retired you know what this means…more Durabels for New Years 2024/25!
I enjoy all of the system replacement videos
15:50 "You guys sniffing glue over here or what"
The detail really makes this video great
Aaah... There's a blast to my childhood... I had those bells right through my school life - and, in high school, they did double duty as the end of session bells, too. Never knew that kicking a button off the wall would activate the fire alarm until I came out of a classroom where I had been talking to a teacher to find the alarm going off and the button assembly at 45 degrees from the wall...
What precautions do you have to put in place when putting a schools fire alarm out of service? I imagine it's done over the holidays, so theirs nobody there whilst this takes place, but what happens overnight, is the building left unattended without fire alarms? (I'm from NZ, so not sure of when school holidays are for NA)
And were the bells from this school the bells that you were referring to during the NYE sound off? that's cool if you get to keep the old stuff from deservicing systems like this!
I did not have the bells when I did the New Year's video and the building is put on firewatch for the nights without a system
4:32 It's like pulling on the stops of a pipe organ, creating an epic crescendo of bell ensemble
Good uploads Nic ..
Definitely will inspire other's to learn & take up the craft( keep learning ) Im going to promote you here in America!!
I may come to Canada for a US Embassy one day
Those old Edwards pulls with protective guards over them in the gymnasium, I would've also put some kind of protection over the new NBG-12LX pulls, preferably STI's Stopper II covers. I've often seen that with newer fire alarm systems in a building with a gymnasium, as more often than not they may have Stopper covers over the gymnasium pulls but not the others.
I love seeing videos of fire alarm system replacements. Is this the school that recently did a fire drill
Wow I loved this Replacement Video thanks for sharing this video.
My toxic trait is thinking I could do this when in reality I can’t
What would you do if you and your family were on vacation or something (just not at home for a while) and you got a notification that the alarms are going off at your house. Would you immediately call the fire department or would you have a neighbor check your house? Also, have you considered creating a Discord server for your viewers to chat on?
Don't know I haven't gone away in years
Probably call someone
@@nics-systems-electricis there a possibility for the system to silence automatically after hours of alarm
@@UKsystemsI do believe here in canada they can not do that I think it's now allowed, so no.
I love seeing you do it keep it up
I have a question. On some BG12lx I see a second keyhole on the I of the FIRE or the side and I don't know what is it for?. Sometimes I see some break glass call points by system sensor also have a second keyhole on the side.
Nice exited to finish watching this
Is the new panel gonna have new batteries too?
absolutely
I can’t wait for part two
My school district is still mostly Edwards EST.
7:03 New Edwards logo on a M10-24. When did the MB10-24s have the current logo? I've seen lots MB10-24s with the old label, but I've been seeing some new MB10-24s with the new Edwards logo.
Recently
Did you keep some of the old bells/pull stations? Or does your company not allow that. Great install btw!
I kept the stuff I wanted
When is part 2 coming?
Wednesday
Why do I feel like the bells in schools are just old school and people used school bell tones and addressesble fire alarms nowadays keep up the good work 👍👍
05:42 An L-Series horn strobe that has the date code of 3033 which is close to 3034 and 3035 as that's the numbers of the recalled low frequency sounders. But if you were able to order a batch of low frequency sounders on this date then you would likely get a recalled one due to the time you order them will give you this certain date code batch of devices and it depends on the area you live in
I liked the new install of the fire alarm at the school
Sad seeing the 6500 go but hopefully the next systen will be even better.
I know this question probably has been asked before, but where does these old devices go? I would love adding some bells to my collection if i could.
I usually keep most devices but other than the jobs I'm on usually everything gets thrown out
I like this type of stuff and I find this stuff interesting like replacing fire alarms and other stuff too and also I like your videos
My question is. What's wrong with the bells? I always found them to be louder and more alerting then the beeps.
Needs to be listed under the compatibility list of that panel to have been tested and have an updated current draw rating for doing calculations therefore a usual upgrade replaces the A/V devices
@@nics-systems-electric Makes sense. Thanks
How many bells do you think you will get for next new year sound off ?
Man I wish I had the money to buy pull stations cause I’m trying to get a phone and I don’t have enough money😢
Hi nic congrats on 20.5K Hope the next time i see ur subs it 100k i been watching u since 1k love ur vids u deserve a lot more support
Awesome video!
Was the alarm system broken? I would imagine metal bells and pull stations being more high quality and durable
No I said in the video that's it's still fully operational but is being replaced pre-emptive and to eventually get the whole school district Notifier.
Hoping there’s another installment today.
Bros talking us though the steps but most of us who watch don’t know what he’s talking about 😂
Nice 👍Love your channel btw😁
To be honest i like the edwards alarm but i would rate 7/10 and the simplex horn 9/10 P.S the simplex horn is the og fire alarm for me
got my bg 12 up
Q: more of an IT guy here but have different interests, are there chances where you need to replace the wiring in the walls?
No the wiring stays
Don't know why but ever since I've been doing more research on fire alarms I'm starting to hate conventional systems
Do u think the school system will ever start installing the new LED system sensor L series devices
Not this project it's already done devices are already ordered and installed. Future upgrades that don't have the equipment already may get them once stock of the Zenon versions are gone
My whole school district is Silent Knight.
You should change the exit signs to the Canadian running man exit signs. That could be a part 2 for the school upgrade.
That is not part of a fire alarm upgrade
Why is there music playing throughout the school?
Because people like to work with music?
Is this the one from the fire drill video?
Are you like an in-house fire systems technician for the school district?
Working with school district electricians as a apprentice
Did this building get put on fire watch on the first day?
It's on fire watch each night that we don't have a system
@@nics-systems-electric So the system wasn't up for a couple of nights then.
If eols in the same box as strobes is illegal then my school is blatantly being illegal they have Eol listed on some strobes and horns. Also on strobes what does a number like 100-10 mean
Codes are different depending where you are I'm in Canada
what dose it take to get a job like this?
I work with the electrical department for my school district
Will you ever do durability testing again?
Maybe
Also, if you have any extra notifier keys, I’ll take them
I wonder when they’ll be using the led L series in public buildings
Assuming they've got ULC/CSA listing probably a few months until all of the old stock is gone a lot of jobs have the devices pre-ordered and assigned for that project so it could be a while
@@nics-systems-electric ok
scissor lift durability test
Why do you have to take the conduit off
The conduits have to be removed from the old panel to install a new gutter box and some cut down to install a junction box below the new panel
Thats the one from the fire drill upload 1 hours ago ( 11 hours ago )
11 hours ago but yes
That was a typo
How long does this take to replace the old fire alarms to new ones
This job took five days
Gotta know: what were you able to save in this system?
Most of it except for some of the old heat detectors I didn't want
@@nics-systems-electric does that mean you have two 6500 systems now?
@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 two not working ones yes
@@nics-systems-electric what seems to be the problem with them (besides the ground issue in the first one you got before the new one)?
@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 ground fault is gone so just a common trouble and the other one has a remote lamp failure and zones are in trouble
Can you show the exit signs here?
Video are already all done just some shitty plastic exit signs like all the rest of them
@@nics-systems-electric oh okay they looked like ez snap
@@Meepcity534 probably are some of those things
Nic What Was The Old System
Just watch the video I showed it and talked about it
i might be a helper for a fire drill at my schhol mabye!!
school*
also i realised that that the edwards bell is very obnoxous but thats its job but still 7/10
Can you sell them?
Hi how are u ok today nick u do a rally good job on here there good work on here nick I hop we can be friends with u nick u do a rally good job on here form Greg
What do you do with the Old fire alarms 🤔
Keep them or throw them out
@@nics-systems-electricwhy not just sell it?
@@DJHazemBrewog the school district doesn't do that
dang thats bad because the old devices could be donated to collectors or refurbished @@nics-systems-electric
How old do you have to be to do something like this?
I'm 17 and working as a first year apprentice while still in school
Pls tell me u kept the old panel
He didnt
@@DanTDMJaceHe did.
Did you save the 6500?
Yep that's why I made the RUclips short about it
Hey nice video!! Are they hiring?? I would love working there for a while to practice my english! I will do my best!! Would be a nice experience! Stay safe and have fun!! ...
I'm sure there's fire alarm companies looking for more people out here
I realized you were in Canada and aren’t governed by ADA lol, you don’t need to add strobes to the classrooms or lower the pull stations I guess then?
Not on a retrofit
Great i guess you are going to take most of the old items home
Can I have some bells?
You can buy fire bells on eBay
Fire old alarm
Lovely
Out with the OLLLLLLLLD In with the new
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let me gess you got all throws balls at home naw 😁😂
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