That library replacement reminded me of a certain quote; “If your smoke detector is turning yellow it ain’t mellow, but if it’s white then everything is right” Also thanks for the elevator ride, love those classic Dover impulses. Very common in the 90’s
Man, the MPS-2C series pull stations would be almost perfect if they hadn't screwed up with the resistor placement! They're durable, easy to use, hard to accidentally activate, and somewhat visually appealing, but a PITA for installers. Very unfortunate, but it's good that you guys got all of these installed without a problem.
Hi Nic Been watching your videos for a while now and it's interesting to see how it all works in the states compared to here in UK. Keep up the good content
This probably has to be my favorite replacement fire alarm video on this channel because I liked how in the last video you let us hear the alarm before and saw the unsynced strobes which look cool but probably illegal. You should do that for now on, and probably on the next if you do.
I found the gymnasium light switches amusing. The most I've ever seen personally is six light switches in a row. In the older schools in my area most of the gym lights were just switched at the breaker.
For some reason at my school, has disabled, all the annunciators there’s two in the whole building and they said that they disabled them so they can control it from the panel and if you’re wondering what the panel is it’s a notifier I don’t know what kind of panel it, but the CPU looks like a 3030 and yeah there’s a lot of disabled smoke and beam detectors. The reason why those are disabled I believe one time my school was having a party in the high school gym and they asked one of the custodians to disable some smoke detectors in the gym because it gonna be using a fog machine for a party in there, but some of the smoke made it into the locker rooms and set the system off and the fire alarm system was not on test so the fire department responded I believe two fire departments responded because I believe the fire chief and the ladder truck responded also
the house I live in was built in the 70's It is rent house smoke detector were non operational and fire extinguisher was bad the home I'm planning to build is going to Notifier nfs-320c so during the construction I'll have fire alarm wire ran at the same time with the other low voltage wiring
Hello dear Nic i really love you video's i would say keep up the great work!! But i have a little crazy questions as of the old devices from the school or any building i wanted to ask if i could maybe get some as im planning on making a fire alarm system for in my house, i was trying to make my own devices but so far no luck. As for the device i would need i will make a little list. I would love to get, 4x Alarm bells (the ones from the last video) 4x Strobes (from last vid or any version) 4x pull station (any old version or one you plan on never using) 4x smoke detector (any old version or one you plan on never using) 3x heat detector (any old version or one you plan on never using) 1x any old or new FACP (any old version or one you plan on never using) 1x monitor module and ofc 2x slc loop isolators I know for a fact you will never do it, but if you do remember that i am a 15-year-old boy wanting to follow his dreams. Anyways keep up the good work and if you do somehow convince yourself to send me some stuff feel free to message me or anything.
You should tie the access control system into the fire alarm system so when the fire alarms go off the access controls unlocked and then re-lock when the system is reset
My high schools 1990s system is being replaced with a notifier voice evac system but they are drilling new holes and new boxes and just deleting everything old
@@nics-systems-electricThose things seem like a b*tch to install. Can’t say I blame him. Yeah Honeywell could have done better with designing those pull stations, at least where the module needs to go anyway 🤦♂️. But was that Pete that said that? Just curious because that sounded like his voice
While you’re doing this, is there any sort of fire watch? What would happen if a fire started while there was no active fire alarm system-especially in a non-sprinklered building at night?
It's not required when the building is not occupied therefore it's up to property management in this case that would be the school district facilities who could decide if they wanted or not
If I take this question correct will it be warping the last day fire alarm replacement Arizona the video will not be as long tomorrow play my name is Iylah Nelson carr
@@nics-systems-electric I mean you’d be about 200 USD richer if you sold the panel to me and I got PayPal for currency exchange so imagine 200 USD converted to Canadian currency. I can reprogram this unit using the code loader to upgrade the software version to 2.5 then just use QS-CU 2.5 for the config change. Then I’ll get a SIGA-HDT so I can factory default any device I get for it and turn on mapping.
You have to replace the EST genesis? It has been there like not to long and you still have to replace it. That doesn’t make sense that it is probably like 13 years old and you still have to replace it
Technically the Genesis probably would have _functioned_ but not correctly. For health and safety reasons, modern codes require that all signals on a system (especially strobes) have to be synchronized, but the ways that alarm manufacturers synchronize their devices are different and often proprietary. The majority of the signals on the old system were unsyncable so they couldn't be kept, and the replacements for those (from System Sensor) are incompatible with the way that the Genesis syncs.
@@mingez yes, fire alarms from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s needs to be replaced. But fire alarms from the early 2000s, I thought they didn’t need to be replaced so that was surprising. The reason why they replaced it because of the system was Edwards so as the genesis is owed by it.
@@nics-systems-electric usually in the US, we call them wire nuts because the more popular brand is ideal, 3M gardener bender, it just summarize them because it would be wierd to call them ideals right?
JOKE . TIM. WHAT ARE WE HAVING FOR DINER RJ. FIRE ALARM SOUP AND A SIDE OF FIRE ALARM BREAD STICKS TIM. OO FANCY RJ RJ. YUP TIM. IS NIC COMING TO EAT NIC. I WILL COOK THE FIRE ALARM SOUP RJ.OK TIM.OK I GOT THIS JOKE FROM THE BOWL OF DETECTOR BASE'S
That library replacement reminded me of a certain quote; “If your smoke detector is turning yellow it ain’t mellow, but if it’s white then everything is right” Also thanks for the elevator ride, love those classic Dover impulses. Very common in the 90’s
Awesome job Nic! Loved the commentary in the background at 7:44 😂😂
I was gonna comment that 😂😂
I LOVE THIS SERIES SO MUCH LOL I LOVE IT WHEN YOU POST MY FACE LIGHTS UP EVERYTIME I SEE THAT NOTIFICATION LOL
I'm glad you enjoy
ehhh
@@Williams_elektronik huh
Man, the MPS-2C series pull stations would be almost perfect if they hadn't screwed up with the resistor placement! They're durable, easy to use, hard to accidentally activate, and somewhat visually appealing, but a PITA for installers. Very unfortunate, but it's good that you guys got all of these installed without a problem.
The whole backside of the thing is just ridiculous if it was easier to set the address and not quite so large it would be much better
the adress loop thingy should really be inside the station like the BG12's have it
Hi Nic
Been watching your videos for a while now and it's interesting to see how it all works in the states compared to here in UK. Keep up the good content
Thanks for watching!
@@nics-systems-electricOMG I LOVE YOU IM A HUGE FAN
No this is in canada
@@Dawezil north America
23:16 Wow!! Old Pyrotronics duct det. Thats really cool to see. Awesome video as always man
This probably has to be my favorite replacement fire alarm video on this channel because I liked how in the last video you let us hear the alarm before and saw the unsynced strobes which look cool but probably illegal. You should do that for now on, and probably on the next if you do.
This will probably be my last one
Are you never going to replace fire alarms again
@@bluesnake4131 probably not with the school district likely other places but wouldn't be doing videos
Oh that's sad. Hope you still have fun though
@@nics-systems-electric aww
I found the gymnasium light switches amusing. The most I've ever seen personally is six light switches in a row. In the older schools in my area most of the gym lights were just switched at the breaker.
Your last video was the best
Bro since when did you watch nics channel
I’ve never seen him comment before
@@GamerExplorer1515 same
I like your series Nic 😊
I have watched you for a long time and i like you so much 😁❤
That duct detector could be rare 😁
6:51 that was the bell that was used in my high school for transitioning classes
I really love this series, definitely keep it up!
You're brilliant ❤
For some reason at my school, has disabled, all the annunciators there’s two in the whole building and they said that they disabled them so they can control it from the panel and if you’re wondering what the panel is it’s a notifier I don’t know what kind of panel it, but the CPU looks like a 3030 and yeah there’s a lot of disabled smoke and beam detectors. The reason why those are disabled I believe one time my school was having a party in the high school gym and they asked one of the custodians to disable some smoke detectors in the gym because it gonna be using a fog machine for a party in there, but some of the smoke made it into the locker rooms and set the system off and the fire alarm system was not on test so the fire department responded I believe two fire departments responded because I believe the fire chief and the ladder truck responded also
10:40 haha smokies😂
really good series so far!
Great video. Can’t wait to see day 3 soon
23:24 That Duct Detector was made in my town? What? Lmao!
I am so invested in this and I can't explain why lol
I LOVE THESE VIDS SO MUCH LOL IM ADDICTED
Are you ok?
I had fire alarm with light in my old apt it was 1995 was built.
the house I live in was built in the 70's It is rent house smoke detector were non operational and fire extinguisher was bad the home I'm planning to build is going to Notifier nfs-320c so during the construction I'll have fire alarm wire ran at the same time with the other low voltage wiring
I love your channel please keep uploading
1st hello. Love this series, keep it up!
18:55 I am so scared of heights I could neverrr
That one only goes 19 feet to the bottom of it so it's not too bad ladders are way scarier
Hello dear Nic i really love you video's i would say keep up the great work!!
But i have a little crazy questions as of the old devices from the school or any building i wanted to ask if i could maybe get some as im planning on making a fire alarm system for in my house, i was trying to make my own devices but so far no luck. As for the device i would need i will make a little list.
I would love to get,
4x Alarm bells (the ones from the last video)
4x Strobes (from last vid or any version)
4x pull station (any old version or one you plan on never using)
4x smoke detector (any old version or one you plan on never using)
3x heat detector (any old version or one you plan on never using)
1x any old or new FACP (any old version or one you plan on never using)
1x monitor module
and ofc 2x slc loop isolators
I know for a fact you will never do it, but if you do remember that i am a 15-year-old boy wanting to follow his dreams. Anyways keep up the good work and if you do somehow convince yourself to send me some stuff feel free to message me or anything.
Nick I got a durability test idea you should test one of those EST Genesis we missed the durability testing
You should tie the access control system into the fire alarm system so when the fire alarms go off the access controls unlocked and then re-lock when the system is reset
The school only has access control on one exterior door
My old middle school when they installed the new fire alarm system they put all new holes and back boxes in the school
Lmao the random quote said at 7:43.
Fuck on!
How would that work?
My high schools 1990s system is being replaced with a notifier voice evac system but they are drilling new holes and new boxes and just deleting everything old
I like your videos keep it up
Cool!
Didn't know Notifier was a re-brander of RSG T-bars.
7:43 who pissed bro off
Nick opening pullstasion*
someone:
Fu*k off!
Probably trying to install one of those stupid pull stations
@@nics-systems-electricThose things seem like a b*tch to install. Can’t say I blame him. Yeah Honeywell could have done better with designing those pull stations, at least where the module needs to go anyway 🤦♂️. But was that Pete that said that? Just curious because that sounded like his voice
Do you know if running an slc loop wire next to coax or cat 5 camera wires would cause interference on the cameras?
Parts I enjoyed about this video
00:00 - 28:09
Have you heard of Sentron? They were based oit of Edmonton, Alberta.
Do you ever get the urge to break the break rods on the old pull stations?
23:17 damn, that is old. Surprising that it is a Cerberus Pyrotronics/Siemens. Thought it would be edwards of some type.
That part is from the original 70s school so it is older
@@nics-systems-electricDo you know if Pyrotronics was ever a thing in Canada?
Why were some of the detector status LEDs static green?
Love your vids
Dang someone must’ve had beef with an alarm
?
While you’re doing this, is there any sort of fire watch? What would happen if a fire started while there was no active fire alarm system-especially in a non-sprinklered building at night?
It's not required when the building is not occupied therefore it's up to property management in this case that would be the school district facilities who could decide if they wanted or not
6:50 School bell changes
Lets go
reminds me of the 6500 series
Focus
This replacement fire alarm system is going well
Nic, Do you keep the bells/strobes?
Mostly
If I take this question correct will it be warping the last day fire alarm replacement Arizona the video will not be as long tomorrow play my name is Iylah Nelson carr
1:30 I would say downgrade.
Could you explain that gym lighting layout because that’s a lot of switches and the labels make no sense
It's pretty simple each switch just does some light fixtures
Didn’t that XP6 with a Sync 1A module setup cause problems at your highschool? And doesn’t the CPU2-3030 have NACs already?
Yes those are the same problem cards that suck and no 3030s don't have any nac's on them or a power supply
I forgot to ask: What did you save? I may be able to buy the old panel off you. Still looking for a cheap option to replace my fireshield.
@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 I took the panel but might be giving it back not sure yet
@@nics-systems-electric I mean you’d be about 200 USD richer if you sold the panel to me and I got PayPal for currency exchange so imagine 200 USD converted to Canadian currency. I can reprogram this unit using the code loader to upgrade the software version to 2.5 then just use QS-CU 2.5 for the config change. Then I’ll get a SIGA-HDT so I can factory default any device I get for it and turn on mapping.
Please tell me you kept that pyrotronics duct
I left it where I found it
Why does your company use exclusively T-bar pull stations with hex key?
We don't usually and we aren't a company I explained the pulls in the videos
@@nics-systems-electric oh I see, I probably assumed so since Ive only seen those in the videos I have watched on your channel
@@nics-systems-electricanyways I do really like those pull stationd
What do you do with all the fire alarms and the pull stations what do you do with them
Whatever I don't take gets recycled
Ok
Have you broken any resistors on those pulls yet?
Surprisingly not yet on this job
What was that tone around the 6:55 mark?
Bell
You have to replace the EST genesis? It has been there like not to long and you still have to replace it. That doesn’t make sense that it is probably like 13 years old and you still have to replace it
Yes? It's not compatible with the new system the panel is less than 10 years old too but you still have to change it that's how it works.
Technically the Genesis probably would have _functioned_ but not correctly. For health and safety reasons, modern codes require that all signals on a system (especially strobes) have to be synchronized, but the ways that alarm manufacturers synchronize their devices are different and often proprietary. The majority of the signals on the old system were unsyncable so they couldn't be kept, and the replacements for those (from System Sensor) are incompatible with the way that the Genesis syncs.
Very good question @maiyo8518. I wouldn't have realized that a 13 year old strobe is already obsolete! Thanks for asking!
@@mingez it's not obsolete if it's being used on its compatible brand but in this case it isn't
@@mingez yes, fire alarms from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s needs to be replaced. But fire alarms from the early 2000s, I thought they didn’t need to be replaced so that was surprising. The reason why they replaced it because of the system was Edwards so as the genesis is owed by it.
Wheres your lift harnesses
Nonexistent because it's not needed on a scissor lift
Est genesis as remote strobes?
Yep nothing abnormal about that
Will, there be a part 3
Yes I said that in the video
How advanced is the Notifier 3030
It's notifier's most capable panel
And its big.
@@CmasterCXXV depends on the cabinet you put it in
What do people in canada call twist wire connectors
We call them by a popular brand name which is Marrette so we call them Marrettes
@@nics-systems-electric ah interesting
@@nics-systems-electric usually in the US, we call them wire nuts because the more popular brand is ideal, 3M gardener bender, it just summarize them because it would be wierd to call them ideals right?
@@Declanslifesafety you can call them whatever you like
@@nics-systems-electric mk
Hey Nate, how do I link my Facebook page to my RUclips channel help me out please Nate
Who is Nate?
Why did you say who is Nate?
@@hotbytesB because I have no idea who Nate is. It was a question that that's why there was a question mark.
No bg -12s?
No
JOKE . TIM. WHAT ARE WE HAVING FOR DINER
RJ. FIRE ALARM SOUP AND A SIDE OF FIRE ALARM BREAD STICKS
TIM. OO FANCY RJ
RJ. YUP
TIM. IS NIC COMING TO EAT
NIC. I WILL COOK THE FIRE ALARM SOUP
RJ.OK TIM.OK I GOT THIS JOKE FROM THE BOWL OF DETECTOR BASE'S
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