PCB etching mask with fiber laser

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  • Опубликовано: 21 май 2022
  • The mask is normal black matte alchidic spray paint.
    This method is much more convenient, faster and accurate than using techniques such as toner transfer.
    Laser source: 1064nm JPT 50W
    Laser settings: 30% 1500mm/s 40KHz
    Hatch: 1 pass 0.05mm monodirectional, cross

Комментарии • 55

  • @PhxSt0rmz
    @PhxSt0rmz Год назад +8

    2 passes at 5000DPI did me perfect. 3 mins in ferric chloride and the results are extremely sharp crisp lines and text. So much better than the 600DPI toner transfer days!

  • @caravang34
    @caravang34 2 года назад +5

    OMG this is so beautiful

  • @arjunrao9978
    @arjunrao9978 Год назад

    Neat and quick process. Kudos.

  • @tutorialesreparin
    @tutorialesreparin Год назад

    Hola 👋, excelente video amigo 😉, un saludo 👋.

  • @mauriciozavaleta1223
    @mauriciozavaleta1223 2 года назад +2

    If you do more passes, each one with a different pattern an less power, you can leave al cooper traces clean but you need to invert your image file

    • @davidemognaschi
      @davidemognaschi  2 года назад +3

      In my experience, when the remaining copper layer is very thin, also with low power in some areas it detaches from the substrate in an non uniform way. Maybe the material behind copper produces some gas which expanding forms bobbles. Have you some settings to share? Lightburn for galvos has a great sublayers support which would be great to simplify a multipass, multipattern, multipower process!

    • @codygilleland
      @codygilleland Год назад

      @@davidemognaschi have you thought about using a UV laser to prevent heating of the substrate? Great video thanks for sharing.

  • @_JustBeingCasual
    @_JustBeingCasual Год назад +2

    Do you happen to have the full process of creating a PCB? I mean this video looks beautiful I do love to try a galvo too in the future. But that plate itself is copper right? you add some paint and laser those paths. wouldn't that mean the whole plate you etched is still a single lane? what do you do after this?

    • @ceiliconaffiliates
      @ceiliconaffiliates Год назад +2

      Acid will eat all the open copper area. Only hidden (Ink) will remain. Understood?

  • @mntelectronics9322
    @mntelectronics9322 2 месяца назад

    What kind of paint did you use?

  • @toddreed990
    @toddreed990 Год назад

    lightburn or ezcad for laser settings?

  • @user-tl7lr3kx1f
    @user-tl7lr3kx1f 2 года назад +3

    Which paint do you use?
    Excellent job, used to do same way back in uni days

    • @davidemognaschi
      @davidemognaschi  2 года назад +3

      Used an alchidic black matte spray paint, those used to paint plastic spoilers, but any matte spray paint works well because the laser removes the whole layer in one time, leaving the copper layer very clean.

  • @ricklaser2846
    @ricklaser2846 2 года назад

    Nice! sometimes i make a pcb in my 50W, but it remove cooper , and get a ready pcb,.

    • @davidemognaschi
      @davidemognaschi  2 года назад +1

      Rick it was also my first attempt, but I've not found the right settings to not burn the substrate after the copper layer is removed. Have you some settings to share?

    • @ricklaser2846
      @ricklaser2846 2 года назад

      @@davidemognaschi Hi Davide, Jeffery have a video about pcb. ruclips.net/video/-TPm1eSm2J4/видео.html . After marking cleaning the pcb with a toothbrush and soap.

  • @JM_Tushe
    @JM_Tushe Год назад

    Awesome.

  • @dtiydr
    @dtiydr 2 года назад +1

    No sound?!

  • @user-df1ph5hk4f
    @user-df1ph5hk4f 2 года назад

    How l can make this by arduino

  • @ScottSavageTechnoScavenger
    @ScottSavageTechnoScavenger 2 года назад

    cool!

  • @kychkin_nikolay
    @kychkin_nikolay 2 года назад

    Can you please tell me what program was used to create the g-code? Is it possible to make it burn the entire polygon completely?

    • @davidemognaschi
      @davidemognaschi  2 года назад +3

      With the next video I'll share my toolbox. IMHO this technique is very effective and works well also with a cheap CNC laser diode, but slowly. Also, I found a simple way to add a solder mask layer. Stay tuned!

  • @vinaysv6096
    @vinaysv6096 Год назад

    Oh great, may I know the set up process of that, because I am struggling to get dxf file from gerber data(please...)

    • @davidemognaschi
      @davidemognaschi  Год назад +1

      Sure! FlatCAM is THE way! Simply export your Gerber files and import the layers in FlatCAM. This cool software is amazing: it can convert copper layers, drills, PCB layout, silk masks into geometries, which then you can export and use for laser engraving. A very important tip: set an outer offset to the width of your laser beam or the narrowest traces will be burned out.

    • @vinaysv6096
      @vinaysv6096 Год назад

      ​@@davidemognaschi, thanks man I really appreciate your reply, if possible can we have one virtual meeting.

  • @pentachronic
    @pentachronic 2 года назад +2

    Would like to se this with 5 mil trace/gap to see how well it does.

    • @davidemognaschi
      @davidemognaschi  2 года назад +4

      I'll try!

    • @lazerusmfh
      @lazerusmfh 2 года назад +1

      If you need finer details you can purchase a smaller focal theta lens, like 80 or 100mm.
      I’m now interested to try this on mine!

    • @davidemognaschi
      @davidemognaschi  2 года назад

      @@lazerusmfh good point! Beware, with a shorter focal length you get also a smaller area. Let me know your findings!

  • @plkalansooriya2705
    @plkalansooriya2705 2 года назад

    make Lesr CNC full coust

  • @jessiegashler427
    @jessiegashler427 Год назад

    How small of an ic package can this handle? Is .3-.5mm pitch doable?

    • @davidemognaschi
      @davidemognaschi  Год назад

      I think so, but I've never tried with such thin traces. I think the most critical part is not so much the preparation of the mask with the laser, which undoubtedly has the necessary precision, but the subsequent removal of the copper with acid. Very fine traces require controlled time and temperature.

  • @rtstechservice9900
    @rtstechservice9900 2 года назад

    i need the complete laser and accessories. where to buy?

    • @davidemognaschi
      @davidemognaschi  2 года назад +1

      I brought mine on eBay from a Chinese manufacturer. Here in Italy you must consider high duty taxes when the good comes from outside UE.

  • @xmenxwk
    @xmenxwk 2 года назад +1

    Why not remove the copper directly since its fiber it can I suppose. Saves time of etching and nastiness.

    • @davidemognaschi
      @davidemognaschi  2 года назад

      Nope, the energy required to remove a thin copper layer can cut through the FR4 substrate, burning all the thing.

    • @iainwade
      @iainwade 2 года назад

      @@davidemognaschi use fr1 instead. It’s mostly unaffected by the laser - unless you dwell in one spot.

    • @davidemognaschi
      @davidemognaschi  2 года назад

      @@iainwade Good to know! But FR1 is less widely available and less cheap. Nowadays home made PCB are good only for diy projects, where price and material are constraints. So, any material + almost any laser source + almost any spray paint is a sweet spot.

  • @mikolajmikun5337
    @mikolajmikun5337 2 года назад

    How strong is Your fiber laser? I mean optic power 20, 30 100W?

    • @davidemognaschi
      @davidemognaschi  2 года назад +1

      It's rated 50W, but it's not required an high energy laser to remove a thin paint layer. An 3W laser diode works almost the same. Here, the galvo heads makes all the difference in terms of speed.

  • @davidpointblack
    @davidpointblack 2 года назад

    alguien sabe como se llama este tipo de laser?
    Does anyone know what this type of laser is called?

  • @ayanvaidya2727
    @ayanvaidya2727 Год назад +2

    This is why i wanna be rich

  • @user-rz4ix3rv4c
    @user-rz4ix3rv4c 2 года назад

    Our corporation is an independent electronic components distributor in China.

  • @user-semfisher
    @user-semfisher 2 года назад

    Очень мощно

  • @darchojandreoski6015
    @darchojandreoski6015 2 года назад

    Jetzt noch Politur und wax drauf kannst du benutzen

  • @zoeyzhang9866
    @zoeyzhang9866 2 года назад

    Cool bro! Any interest in any cooperation together? (PCBWay)

  • @fireworm91
    @fireworm91 2 года назад

    interessante ho una macchina in magazzino che vorrei testare ma non la ho mai provata...

  • @taylan_arslan
    @taylan_arslan 2 года назад

    Add music

  • @lutherblisset372
    @lutherblisset372 2 года назад

    5000$ of fiber laser for etching a pcb seems to be too much.....

    • @davidemognaschi
      @davidemognaschi  2 года назад +1

      It's really true! But if you have one, why not do it? it is an expensive tool, but also a very versatile one.

    • @homeguardster
      @homeguardster Год назад

      if your local library is worth anything, they will have a makerspace with a laser.

  • @MdZubairm
    @MdZubairm Год назад

    Ager is technology ka kisi ko pata na hota to india me is technology ko use karne wale ko bhi bhagwan bana dete hindu