Been waiting for the ole man to do a video on screwdrivers, now I can confidently spend way to much money on things I almost certainly don't need!! Cheers!!
Hey AvE! I'd love seeing a video for those of us just starting to put together tool boxes, explaining frequently used tools, which specific ones you recommend and so on. Cheers!
Buying tools to have in case is not a good plan, you get into the embarassing situation of storing brand new tools as their warranties tick out and some you'll never get around to, everybody's needs are different and the only way to discover what tools you need is by doing jobs and needing tools, then you run out and pick them up or amazon them or rent them, that way you don't shell out a ton of cash for worthless tools and besides that when building up your tools it's best to beg borrow and steal what you can before you make purchases, tools are expensive and to outfit your toolkit takes quite a lot of money, saving where you can is really nice.
This just reminded me of the brutal testing of our shop-made screwdrivers in metalwork class at school (UK, over 45 years ago). Tip in the vice, (just the tip, mind, and only fer a minute!). Spanner on the squared off other end, then give it the good news. Start with 100 points. If the tip began to twist off or chipped - zero points. To a schoolboy, it seemed harsh at the time. In reality, if it did either of those things, it was no feckin' good anyway, no matter how pretty it looked. A good life lesson. Thanks for bringing back that memory!
Correct. Pozidriv is a non-cam out design by Phillips, now standard in European manufacturing and flat-pack furniture Worldwide. JIS cross head is completely different. I like the PB swiss screwdrivers with the black hard rubber swissgrip handles, hex and pound caps the best. The slots are flat ground and the Phillips fit tightly. They are better than my wiha and Felo drivers for my hand shape.
Yeah, the Vessel JIS #1 and #2. Recently added them to my collection for those screws in electronics stuff that has a small dot on the head. The Vessel screwdrivers have a nice knurl on the shaft for twiddling the screws in or out fast.
JIS screwdrivers work in Philips heads and don't cam out. Pozi screwdrivers are not the same as JIS and mince Phillips and Pozi heads. Pozidrive screwdrivers mince Phillips heads, but you can use a Phillips or JIS driver with a pozi screw. With a pozi driver and matching pozi screw, the screw goes in straighter. JIS screwdrivers never mince heads but they break screws. It's preferable putting a wood screw in that it strip halfway in and is removable than snap. The Vessel JIS screwdrivers are the best I own, I use them on my bikes and my guitars where a small scripted screw or a screwdriver scraped across the finish is a big problem. Try some. I really like my Vessel PH2/JIS mini impact driver. Feels like a nicely weighted pound-through driver, but they turn when you hit them, not a lot, but usually enough to unfuck a motorcycle.
You want the yellow Wera. They have the hex on the shank and a steel-cap on the end for hammering...I miss a PB swiss screwdriver in your collection. Love the woodhandles Wiha but cant stand their plastic handled ones. For the picks I go into the dental/medical tools. That stuff is dirt cheap and quite good...
You can also get the yellow handle Wera (I think they call them Series 900 Chiseldrivers) with a square hole in the metal end cap to insert a 1/4in ratchet. I think those have an 'AS' for the flat blade or 'SPHS' for the phillips after the model number.
also the wera 300 SK type are bolstered, not strike through, but they are way less likely to damage fasteners than the 900 kraftform's. . I also love the wera ratcheting screw drivers... 72 tooth has some nice advantage. Find it weird he likes felo more when they have literally the same grips as wera.
alright phew Thought i was going to have to fiddle with me video drivers or something (not the most enjoyable experience for me) Thanks for the assist fellas
The one tool you cannot scrimp on is screwdrivers. I've had Stanley and all sorts over the years, until I picked up a Wiha. Those things are perfection in a screwdriver. No more damaged screw heads. and the grip is unbeatable. Not cheap, but not as expensive as some other drivers. They're the sort of screwdriver you buy for life, after you've learned the false economy of buying cheaper sets. If you're real lucky (and smart), you'd buy them in the first place, and not go through all the frustration of owning inferior tipped screw drivers. Better than the Milwaukee because they have an even shape, so you can get perfect hand position for maximum purchase no matter what the direction of the screw head. The rubber they use never slips... it's like they sprayed the handles with Unslipium or some magic substance... they're that good!
No love for VESSEL from Japan? They make a really neat "Impacta" screwdriver that has a cammed mechanism to transmit a hammer strike into a twist on whatever screw you're on. Very cool.
I work on Japanese motorcycles as an enthusiast and Highly recommend Vessel brand JIS drivers. You'd be surprised how many folks dont realize those cross point screws on motorcycles and electronics are likely JIS heads and not Phillips. Phillips drivers strip them out, but JIS drivers are good for Phillips head screws too. For woodworking Robertson heads by any good brand seems to fit the bill.
dkruitz Yup, I had a frustrating experience with exactly that. I was trying to replace a crankcase cover gasket on a 72 Honda CB200 and juuust about stripped every one of them. Luckily they all came out using an impact screwdriver. Honda liked to use those cross head bolts back then for everything, of which I only learned were JIS a while later. I replaced all original bolts with an allen bolt kit anyway.
Have you used the vessel impacta? I tried one and it's amazing for stuck screws. The metal cap on the end goes to some internal mechanism which turns the bit counterclockwise when you strike the back end with a hammer. It's become my go-to driver for JIS and philips #2 screws, and if something is stuck I don't even need to grab another tool, just hit it with a hammer.
+1 on that. I started with an #2 Impacta, then got their 220W multi driver, and a conventional #2 with the ball handle. Great drivers with good ergonomics and quality construction.
Screwdrivers are pretty subjective when it comes to feel in the hand, but Vermont American used to make some really nice screwdrivers called "The Claw". They were made in the USA and they had small grooves in them that seems to really get a good bite in screw heads. I can really get a good grip on the triangular shaped handles they came with which were also grooved. They aren't made anymore and they are getting hard to find used even but whenever I run across them in a Pawn shop I pick them up. They also sold them in Walmart stores under the Popular Mechanics label. Awesome screwdrivers and my personal favorites, just unusually well made inexpensive screwdrivers.
A shout out for Picquik! I've got almost the entire series. I wish they made one with JIS... Don't let them get wet, they surface rust fast. Besides that the material quality is great, took a relative to use one in a drill to chomp up a phillips bit, still usable but it slips easier.
Two main points I've got AvE; at 08:00 the small Snap-On drivers for electronics and such have been dressed up a bit since that model, and I find the newer ones rather comfy (a LOT more comfortable than allen keys) when I'm tinkering with my Traxxas E-Revo. My second point is this: Snap-On file handles work GREAT for round files, but as you pointed out, flats are a weak point. Take care!
Using a golf ball for the handle of a file works great. It functions just as good if not better than a handle and will almost never break (but if it does you just buy another golf ball instead of a handle.)
For gas axe file handles we cut a piece of branch the thickness and length we prefer, some like em thicker for not getting tired hand. You could do the same and get a better purchase on your tool maybe. You pick the piece of round Beachwood you like and cut it out, then you put the file end in the centre and smacker down. The wood we use is always green fresh cut. The dry stuff is hard and you can't smacker down.
I got into the Wera for working on pro audio equipment, and guitar tech. The tapered fit on their hex and Torx give them a very good fit. It's also impressive that their magnetic bits fit the chuck with no slop at all. My Wiha have become spares, for now.
When I was working I called on hospitals and I would sometimes go into the gift shop. Some hospitals purchased one use sterilized stainless picks, scissors, and tweezers. After surgery, they would sterilize them and sell them in the gift shop for a couple of bucks each. The quality is great, much better than the HF junk. Since these were used in surgery I always took the added precaution of boiling them for 15-20 minutes before use.
Check out the Wera 932 Kraftform Plus, they have a pass through blade with a solid metal hammering surface on the butt of the handle, as well as the hex on the shaft to get some extra torque with a wrench if needed
ChrisHallett83 I took a look, and that's 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back. You must be British, huh ? It's okay, being humor-impaired isn't anything to be ashamed of. There's plenty of humor-impaired living really kickass lives. My ex girlfriend was humor-impaired… she's a pilot now.
WERA - they have a yellow brand - if you can, take a look at them, they have the CV throu the handle, are more robust, you can use them with a hammer to wa(n)ck! - those green ones are no so rubust at all, more for electric-wip-wap.
Video 17 have a full set, yellow and green. use them daily all the way from ripping out windows to screwing bronze screws on a piece of furniture. love the drivers. as you said though, green for fine work, yellow for rough. btw I work in Germany and i still don't use wiha
+1 Wiha precision screwdrivers. Discovered these repairing Apple computers for about 5 years. They feel right and the tips don't break if you're not abusive, I save worn out and broken ones for abuse. The bigger Wiha drivers with the big round handle give more torque with the hand, but quickly make my hands hurt with repetitive use. The tips well outlast Smears Crapsman. I buy Wiha in the US from MCM Electronics.
I bought a set of Felo screwdrivers cause I saw them on your bench a couple months back and boy oh boy they are every bit as good as you say! seriously the best and most positive fit on a Philips driver I've ever used. Well worth every cent!!
My favorites are the Wiha, the handles just fit my hands and are the most comfortable I have used. My second are the old hard handled Snap On, I just couldn't get used to the instinct handles. For Philips and JIS, Vessel makes the best driver hands down, they are just incredible. It's funny you mention Pozidrive. I bet if you asked 100 GM or Chrysler techs about Pozidrive, 99 would look at you like you had two heads. Neither one of those manufacturers has used Philips head screws in decades but everyone uses Philips drivers on these fasteners. I agree with what the others have said about Robertson, It has to be the best screw head design I have ever come across.
At my shop we got the opposite problem, snap on never shows up, and the turnover rate for snap on reps here for the past 8 years has been insane. Mac just started a route here about 2 years ago and shows up religiously, along with the others, which is why my toolbox is a melting pot of everything from matco, Cornwell, mac, and snap on to craftsman and brands I'm ashamed to mention haha.
@AvE Wera has a series (Kraftform Plus Series 900) with a nut as you say, and the "hexagonal blade is extending through the handle" as they explain... So you didn't choose the right model ;)
9:38 I used to have the mechanism go belly up about every 2-3 years with normal use. It happens commonly enough that the Snap-on dude usually has a couple of rebuild kits on the truck with him, or he just exchanged it for a new one but yes, they do eventually strip/go bad, with normal, frequent use.
ive got the full set of snap on instinct screwdrivers, theyre great! we have 3 guys in the shop that have the same set and we all love them, highly recommend
+Anonymouspock There's two ways a screwdriver can be "left-handed", which makes for three kinds in total - bit, grip, and bit-and-grip. Left _bit_ screwdrivers have a reversed end, for use with screws with left-handed threading. Left _grip_ screwdrivers have a reversed handle, so you can apply more torque when it's held with the left hand. Left-bit-and-grip is just those two features combined, but they're incredibly rare.
oragamihawk I'm left handed and have the same problem holding screwdrivers. So what I do is hold my screwdriver with my right hand, and the beer with my left.
When I have a handle that has no purchase, I do the hockey stick handle thing - take cloth hockey tape and pull out some of it and then give the roll a spin to turn the tape into a sticky string. Wrap the string to form a helix on the handle and then keep wrapping the flat part of the tape to cover the wound up string part. Works great.
My favorite driver comes out of a tool kit from a VW 1999 or older. Stranded and fillips bit with plastic handle (not the best handle) but the bit has kept an excellent edge for 15 years now with daily use in automotive service. Get one if you can find it
This may chooch you in the wrong way but the best screwdriver is the one you can find!!!! I swear every time I need a phillips i find a flat head and vise versa. sometimes it aint big enough to fit in the hole or its to big to fit ;).
undeadlich1 so true, I end up doing impossibly difficult projects with a Leatherman because I didn't bring my tools. 20 min jobs take a hour because of the bulky, unbalanced multitool sucks in any position. All while my wife saying supportive things like "it's hot out here" or "you said 5 mins 5 mins ago".
derek leverknight good idea! The Gerber Center Drive solves the exact problem of having a screwdriver in a multitool. Only $90, one hand operation, and made in USA too! RUclips comments are not supposed to be this civil, so eat shit.
Maybe I've just had good luck with their free screwdrivers, but I haven't seriously damaged one yet and I use them for prying and chiseling (alu, iron, steel, etc.) when I don't want to mess up a tool I care about and don't want/need a big prybar. Hammered on them all sorts of ways (steel hammer) and haven't even broken a handle. The handles even feel pretty decent other than the sharp edges toward the tip. Cut the shank off of one and turned the flathead into a oil pump primer, the steel isn't nearly as soft as I expected. They're free.99 and feel better and more solid than some of the expensive sets I've used.
Oh, wait, I just remembered that they changed their handles in the last year or two. The old ones (rounded, with lugs) were uncomfortable and brittle, the new ones (square) are what I really like. The new ones are shaped like the Mac driver in this video. Not sure if the metal changed, but I can put the handle on an anvil and hammer on it without it breaking.
I really like the snap-on ratcheting screw drivers. I have several. One other trick with those, and quarter inch extension can be used to make a really long shank as needed. Great for this hard to reach ones.
i beliebe its the beech woodbthat makes those felos so great. beech just can not be beat! the old collectible 200 yr old stanley plame bodies are made of beech for avreason .
Lacquer is for furniture, oil is for tools. I don't use boiled, I use natural linseed oil because I'm overly cautious about the lead and cobalt in it even though it has been used for nigh 600 years now.
Another shout out for PB Swiss here! I work in semicon and nobody uses anything else in that branche. The classic style is very easy to keep clean and has great grip even with two pairs of gloves on (undergloves and nitrile). I have broken a few of their allen keys while torquing down turbo pumps though.. But I can't think of any other brand that would take that kind of abuse better.
turbostewi I don't think this is likely to happen in a cleanroom environment, I've never seen it or heard anyone in the branche complain about it. On the other hand, I think we burn through these drivers too quick for the plastic to go bad. Keep in mind ratchets and the like are rarely used, to prevent contamination from the moving parts, so the screwdrivers see the most use.
THIS is very probably the difference! Saw/ smelled it in a drawer of a "collection" (screw drivers collected over years or even decades, used with sweaty palms and thrown back into drawer) of PBs in a steel drawer in an industrial environment.
As a general use and abuse screw driver I like the matco ones. They have a nice shaft like snapon with the wrench slot. They also have a flocking material so even if you hand is soaked in oil they are still grippy. Now they just need to add lanyards so I don't leave them on trucks for frig sakes
AvE is the only guy on the entire internet, who makes me watch 15mins vijeo of goddamn screwdrivers, and I am barely breathing watching it. No regrets.
Used Wiha a lot in an aerospace machine shop. Especially for changing cutting inserts in lathe and mill tooling. Between Wiha for Torx and Bondhus for the allen heads (usually hid the Bondhus drivers from coworkers so that I had something that would loosen the screws that some of the shop apes seemed to tighten to 27 gazillion inch pounds - Bondhus were the only ones that wouldn’t strip when breaking them loose)
I know this vid is 6+ yrs old but I just stumbled across it. Klein just came out (fall 2023) with a full sized precision bit driver with 27 bits! They have 2 models. Part 32327 has the precision bits with tamper proof bits and 32328 has the Apple bits. I got one of them and I've been blown away by it. It's light weight and the end of the handle spins making it super easy to work on computers and the small fasteners.
I am a Maintenance Manager at a Hyatt Place hotel. And I have always have a love for the klein type drivers. Especially the 11n1 I use it daily and it honestly lasts quite a while. So im with ya on the Klein.
".......the tip is way to hard as every High School debutant will tell ya...." OMG! I have tears from laughing so hard over that comment. Brings back a few memories.....
I laughed so hard I fell out of my chair and hit my head. The hit lowered my Iq by 20 point! Don’t worry, it was low to begin with. That why I laughed at the joke
I gotta give a little defense to Wera tools, I like them. The grips tend to get sticky in oily environments but eh that´s actually what you want when everything else is slippery. Wiha is a bit of Hilti, boutique style screwdrivers. I favour Hazet tools, they got everything from screwdrivers to torque wrenches, that came and mostly come with lifetime warranty. I recently got a torque wrench recalibrated that my granddad passed on to me for drinking a coffee with them.
I thought PB Swiss were hype & they aren't widely available in the US. Then i got a set of classic handles & an Insider as a gift... Damned if they aren't every bit as good as advertised. I'd rate their slotted tips as the best in the world by a good margin. Grace gunsmithing drivers are really good, but PB is better. For Phillips, Torx, Hex & everything else, Wera, Wiha, Felo, Snap-On, Vessel, Zephyr, & Apex are as good. For Robertson, those 2-pc originals from Canada are the best, but impossible to buy now in the US. Gonna have to get some imported 3rd party.
Picked up one of the Snap-On stubby ratcheting screwdrivers at an estate sale for $1. Had to get a new shank, but HOLY CRAP, it really is awesome. Best ratcheting screwdriver I've ever used. I'd still never buy it new, but I love this little thing.
Made a set of checkering tools with large very ruff cut handles. Those were the best handles for grip I've ever owned. I now take the finish off all wood handles and just take a sharp knife and cut slices off in all directions. The out of round,ruff surface makes for terrific gripping. Learned this from an old wood carver. All his tool handles were just hogged down as if they were in 1st stage of production. hundreds of small surfaces to allow for good grip.
100% agree about the stubby snap-on screw driver. My primary screwdriver but I use the solid shafts with tips. Hardly use the Bit shaft. My home ratcheting screwdriver is the Roto and love it for less critical work.
Forgotten technology I suppose... I hated flathead screws my entire life until I experienced a proper set of hollow ground gunsmithing bits. Chapman has a good write-up about why they are superior. chapmanmfg.com/pages/insert-bits
I would say if you had chance, you should try. Those have this LaserTip, that i found to actually work. I also have a set of Wiha ESD set, i don't like those. Wera cause of not beeing totally round has better grip. They also have this 932 series, that has a hex shape on the blade. Only thing from Wiha that i like more is VDE torque screwdriver that is more compact.
The small scraper that you said you never have seen is a scraper made for removing gule when changing Car windshiels. I use the Daily, bcause it is my job. They are great. thanks for the video.
It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on files. I would imagine that is a tool where the quality of the steel and the machining process is pretty important. I've never seen a screw on file handle like that, in fact I can't seem to find any kind of file handles in the big box stores down here.
I’m too frugal (wife would call me something else) to buy a full set of high ends screwdrivers for infrequency of which I’d use them. But I do have two snap on screw drivers a #2 Phillips long and regular length. Those being the two I reach for the most. They just feel so damn perfect in the hand. And they grip those screws damn near perfect. Definitely worth it IMO.
I do hospital MRO, and recently a nurse brought me a "broken" Conmed Linvatec ratcheting handpiece, for installing orthopedic screws. It's a Snap-On! Same shape, markings & ratchet. They modify the retaining springso it can't be easily removed. Still, i got her working in about 2 minutes. Not sure if they'll use it, since it wasn't repaired by a tech. If not, guess who got a new Snap -On handle? ;)
Call me old school but all my screwdrivers at home are Craftsman. And all my HVAC tools are Klein. My go to is a six way; 2 size straight, 2 size Phillips and 1/4” and 5/16” hex.
Gotta say I really like my Craftsman screwdrivers [got 'em a couple years ago, and mine were made in the USA...]. I looked at Klein, too, but couldn't justify the price...and the weird Klein-looking yet beat-up-beyond-identification screwdrivers my dad's had floating around as long as I can remember also kinda put me off...and I wasn't sure if I'd like the rubber. >__> Anyway, parsecs better than my tiny-slick-handled chinesium ones I'd had since I was 12 and suffered using for far too long because I thought the Craftsman ones I was used to of my dad's were expensive. The Snap-on handles look like they're probably even better. It's weird looking at screwdriver handles online...or even in Horror Fright. They mostly all look the same. And the WeraWihaWhatsit handles look odd to me, so it's nice to get some confirmation that my intuition might be right and they're not somehow magic. I actually made a square[ish] file handle for my mill bastard and I really, really like it. Of course, I'm biased, and probably don't use a file near as often as you, but.... Oh, and it's pressed/hammered on instead of screwed and its flats are on the sides the file's are, so that probably helps.
I am a maintenance electrician and I love the Megapro screw drivers. They are available in many drivers from Robertson, Philips, Flat, Allen, Torques and security bits. I find the bits to be nice and hard as they last on the sight day in and day out. I love the ability to switch from one to another quickly and easily. once I found the locking yellow driver I was hooked. The blue yellow tends to drop bits often. This helps keep my tool bag light. I did find the handle to be a bit hard on the hands but once it gets used a bit it feels good in the hands. check them out and let me know what you think and keep up the awesome work.
Those snap-off ratcheting screwdrivers, you can use a 1/4" extension to further extend the reach. Haven't found a need for it yet though lol. A lot of tools I went with other brands, but screwdrivers and ratchets I got all snap on. Even broke down and bought snap on screw drivers for home
Can we please all agree to completely stop using standard drives, I know they're cheaper, but they really suck. I like coin slot drives for low torque, tool-less situations. I'm not a fan of Philips or its redheaded cousin Philips Slotted, or any of the following similar drives from out yonder; Frearson, French recess, Cross, JIS, Pozidriv, SupaDriv and TriPoint. Allen and Roberson were both useful back in the day, but started to feel dated about a decade ago. It would be so nice to carry a full suite of Torx bits and nothing else. I wish Torx Plus was common, probably won't catch on for a while though.
in german cars almost all the bolts are either torx or torx-plus and its amazing, been working on them for a few years now and can count the times i've stripped a head on 1 hand
@@jobdylan5782 Seeing as how I've NEVER stripped a torx, I'd beg to differ. I've done in many a Phillips and flat head. But torx GRABS and holds on. Honestly I'd love if everything was torx and Allen.
The only problem with torx imo is that when the screw is really stuck, it wont strip, but your bit will twist or break.. or im just using cheap torx bits
I heard a lot of talk about handles, how they feel and whether you can beat on them... BUT my main focus when buying a screwdriver is the precision of the tip. I’m talking about how precise is the tip ground and how durable it is. I’m not talking about little “precision” screwdrivers. It doesn’t matter how pretty the handle is if the tip is junk. A good screwdriver digs in precisely and doesn’t strip the screw like a cheap screwdriver. Which screwdriver has the best tips?
I bought two Snap-On ratcheting screwdrivers when I was working on avionics in 2007. I got a regular and stubby driver, and a 10" extension shank. The #2 Phillips bits I got are also grooved at the tip and grab like a gator. I've used the hell out of these screwdrivers and they've never let me down. I even had to use the stubby handle on the 10" shank a few times in awkward places. Indispensible.
I bought a 51 piece Craftsman bit driver set, with the red and black handle. Non-ratcheting, really nice driver, handle felt perfect in my hand and it came with 50 bits of varying flavors (including Robertson lol). I had the thing for probably seven years, consistently used, never lost a bit, but I gave it one too many whacks with the hammer to pry something and finally broke the part that holds the bit at the end of the shaft. Just my luck, Craftsman doesn't make them anymore, so they're not covered under the lifetime warranty. I was really sad. That was an excellent driver, in my opinion.
For all the european lovers of quality tools: Proxxon Proxxon NO 23 107 is a god send when you need to get into wierd things Felo. I think my dad has a set of those.
You can get the Wiha drivers on amazon for a pretty decent price here in canada. The sets are fairly expensive but they have anti-shock ones for electrical work that are rated to 1000V protection... whatever that means im not an electrician lol
Work in the cigarette making industry and use a set of Felo Smart since 20 + years- briliant. They are used like a standard screwdriver but can be flipped over to be used as a T- handle. Set is sold here in Germany for 60 bucks. Check them out - awesome. Could not survive without them anymore.
I like the nicholson file handel that has the clamp action so you can change it out... the wood ones just get chewed up in accordance to the poken end weble wobbling around.
I have all sorts but Felo are my favourite. Excellent quality and the best handle. Some Snap-on are rebranded Irazola/Acesa/Irimo made in Spain so you can buy them for a fraction of the price if you don't care for the Snap-on logo.
Been waiting for the ole man to do a video on screwdrivers, now I can confidently spend way to much money on things I almost certainly don't need!! Cheers!!
Hey AvE!
I'd love seeing a video for those of us just starting to put together tool boxes, explaining frequently used tools, which specific ones you recommend and so on.
Cheers!
I've got a well stocked box, and I would sure enjoy that video!
If you have a decent local hardware store, just pick things up as you need!
Buying tools to have in case is not a good plan, you get into the embarassing situation of storing brand new tools as their warranties tick out and some you'll never get around to, everybody's needs are different and the only way to discover what tools you need is by doing jobs and needing tools, then you run out and pick them up or amazon them or rent them, that way you don't shell out a ton of cash for worthless tools and besides that when building up your tools it's best to beg borrow and steal what you can before you make purchases, tools are expensive and to outfit your toolkit takes quite a lot of money, saving where you can is really nice.
Klein all the way. Also don't go in an electric panel with a screw driver that has a full shank, doubles as a voltage detector
Or just use an insulated screwdriver. I love my klien and my kobalt set equally
I agree I love my Klein tools.
Који Курац so right man
Lol thx
I have the Wiha insulated screwdriver
1:27 "not a robertson in sight" he says, while a robertson drive is in the screwdriver itself
Was just about to say that
This just reminded me of the brutal testing of our shop-made screwdrivers in metalwork class at school (UK, over 45 years ago). Tip in the vice, (just the tip, mind, and only fer a minute!). Spanner on the squared off other end, then give it the good news. Start with 100 points. If the tip began to twist off or chipped - zero points. To a schoolboy, it seemed harsh at the time. In reality, if it did either of those things, it was no feckin' good anyway, no matter how pretty it looked. A good life lesson. Thanks for bringing back that memory!
Pozidrive is Not JIS... I get my JIS drivers from Vessel tools what a difference it makes to have the correct driver for the screw.
thank God someone else knows this too!!..
Correct. Pozidriv is a non-cam out design by Phillips, now standard in European manufacturing and flat-pack furniture Worldwide. JIS cross head is completely different.
I like the PB swiss screwdrivers with the black hard rubber swissgrip handles, hex and pound caps the best. The slots are flat ground and the Phillips fit tightly. They are better than my wiha and Felo drivers for my hand shape.
Ya get loads of JIS on Japanese bikes. I got some Vessel 1/4" bits for not much, the difference is amazing.
Yeah, the Vessel JIS #1 and #2. Recently added them to my collection for those screws in electronics stuff that has a small dot on the head. The Vessel screwdrivers have a nice knurl on the shaft for twiddling the screws in or out fast.
JIS screwdrivers work in Philips heads and don't cam out. Pozi screwdrivers are not the same as JIS and mince Phillips and Pozi heads.
Pozidrive screwdrivers mince Phillips heads, but you can use a Phillips or JIS driver with a pozi screw. With a pozi driver and matching pozi screw, the screw goes in straighter.
JIS screwdrivers never mince heads but they break screws. It's preferable putting a wood screw in that it strip halfway in and is removable than snap.
The Vessel JIS screwdrivers are the best I own, I use them on my bikes and my guitars where a small scripted screw or a screwdriver scraped across the finish is a big problem. Try some.
I really like my Vessel PH2/JIS mini impact driver. Feels like a nicely weighted pound-through driver, but they turn when you hit them, not a lot, but usually enough to unfuck a motorcycle.
You want the yellow Wera. They have the hex on the shank and a steel-cap on the end for hammering...I miss a PB swiss screwdriver in your collection.
Love the woodhandles Wiha but cant stand their plastic handled ones.
For the picks I go into the dental/medical tools. That stuff is dirt cheap and quite good...
You can also get the yellow handle Wera (I think they call them Series 900 Chiseldrivers) with a square hole in the metal end cap to insert a 1/4in ratchet. I think those have an 'AS' for the flat blade or 'SPHS' for the phillips after the model number.
Brian Havens haven't seen those ones before, all the other ones (part from the stainless steel versions) are present in my tool boxes.
also the wera 300 SK type are bolstered, not strike through, but they are way less likely to damage fasteners than the 900 kraftform's. . I also love the wera ratcheting screw drivers... 72 tooth has some nice advantage. Find it weird he likes felo more when they have literally the same grips as wera.
Oh! My comment already exist. Thanks Stefan :D
Actually you want both! Each has its place. I have both and use them for different tasks.
did the audio lag behind for anyone else? towards the end (this is the second video i've watched today that's done this)
Yes, right around the time he was taking off the file handles.
Glad I'm not the only one that caught that. I thought my connection was going crazy.
Azamyth Yep, lagged for me too, viewed on phone
alright phew Thought i was going to have to fiddle with me video drivers or something (not the most enjoyable experience for me)
Thanks for the assist fellas
Yep. Around file time
We use WIHA at my work, they last long, even beating the ends with hammers.
For o-rings we use those picks that dentists use, doesn't snap as easily.
The one tool you cannot scrimp on is screwdrivers. I've had Stanley and all sorts over the years, until I picked up a Wiha. Those things are perfection in a screwdriver. No more damaged screw heads. and the grip is unbeatable. Not cheap, but not as expensive as some other drivers. They're the sort of screwdriver you buy for life, after you've learned the false economy of buying cheaper sets. If you're real lucky (and smart), you'd buy them in the first place, and not go through all the frustration of owning inferior tipped screw drivers. Better than the Milwaukee because they have an even shape, so you can get perfect hand position for maximum purchase no matter what the direction of the screw head. The rubber they use never slips... it's like they sprayed the handles with Unslipium or some magic substance... they're that good!
No love for VESSEL from Japan? They make a really neat "Impacta" screwdriver that has a cammed mechanism to transmit a hammer strike into a twist on whatever screw you're on. Very cool.
atfsgeoff
I think he's since done a video on that one no?
Have you watched any other AvE content. Probably not.
@@U.S.A.1791 we have a fan boy over here!
I got the impacts jis screwdriver. It's so nice. I had no idea it had that impact option for the first few days. It's built really nice and solid.
I work on Japanese motorcycles as an enthusiast and Highly recommend Vessel brand JIS drivers. You'd be surprised how many folks dont realize those cross point screws on motorcycles and electronics are likely JIS heads and not Phillips. Phillips drivers strip them out, but JIS drivers are good for Phillips head screws too. For woodworking Robertson heads by any good brand seems to fit the bill.
I was just commenting about Vessel. Great drivers, truly great. Never gonna switch away from them.
dkruitz Yup, I had a frustrating experience with exactly that. I was trying to replace a crankcase cover gasket on a 72 Honda CB200 and juuust about stripped every one of them. Luckily they all came out using an impact screwdriver. Honda liked to use those cross head bolts back then for everything, of which I only learned were JIS a while later. I replaced all original bolts with an allen bolt kit anyway.
Have you used the vessel impacta? I tried one and it's amazing for stuck screws. The metal cap on the end goes to some internal mechanism which turns the bit counterclockwise when you strike the back end with a hammer. It's become my go-to driver for JIS and philips #2 screws, and if something is stuck I don't even need to grab another tool, just hit it with a hammer.
+1 on that. I started with an #2 Impacta, then got their 220W multi driver, and a conventional #2 with the ball handle. Great drivers with good ergonomics and quality construction.
I don't know how a set of talking hand can get 500k subscribers, but I am sure glad they are around. 😀
Jeff Greer its because they are well moisturised i think...
Peanut butter. Same trick they used with Mr. Ed.
he's like friggin wilson from home improvement. I demand to see what his grotesque face must obviously look like.
He gets the Patroon money, and that sweet shop ruler cash.
High on content, low on flair.
YES! A video that Every screwball can appreciate and understand!
Keep em coming AvE!
Wiha is my favorite. The handles fit in my palm like they were molded by them. Amazing quality aswell.
Screwdrivers are pretty subjective when it comes to feel in the hand, but Vermont American used to make some really nice screwdrivers called "The Claw". They were made in the USA and they had small grooves in them that seems to really get a good bite in screw heads. I can really get a good grip on the triangular shaped handles they came with which were also grooved. They aren't made anymore and they are getting hard to find used even but whenever I run across them in a Pawn shop I pick them up. They also sold them in Walmart stores under the Popular Mechanics label. Awesome screwdrivers and my personal favorites, just unusually well made inexpensive screwdrivers.
I had those! I still have a few left and really loved them.
A shout out for Picquik! I've got almost the entire series. I wish they made one with JIS...
Don't let them get wet, they surface rust fast. Besides that the material quality is great, took a relative to use one in a drill to chomp up a phillips bit, still usable but it slips easier.
Watching a video about screwdrivers at 5 am before I go work at a desk job. It's my only reprieve in a world where manly activities are frowned upon.
Sam Smith you are Jack from Fight Club.
You shoudl buy some greese and drop your hands in it when u come home from work, makes u feel like a real manly man
4:33am here!
l o l get a job as a tradesman
I used snap-on tools at my work place, working on big rigs. I can vouch for their durability and usefulness
Two main points I've got AvE; at 08:00 the small Snap-On drivers for electronics and such have been dressed up a bit since that model, and I find the newer ones rather comfy (a LOT more comfortable than allen keys) when I'm tinkering with my Traxxas E-Revo. My second point is this: Snap-On file handles work GREAT for round files, but as you pointed out, flats are a weak point. Take care!
Using a golf ball for the handle of a file works great. It functions just as good if not better than a handle and will almost never break (but if it does you just buy another golf ball instead of a handle.)
For gas axe file handles we cut a piece of branch the thickness and length we prefer, some like em thicker for not getting tired hand.
You could do the same and get a better purchase on your tool maybe.
You pick the piece of round Beachwood you like and cut it out, then you put the file end in the centre and smacker down.
The wood we use is always green fresh cut. The dry stuff is hard and you can't smacker down.
@ 1:18 "And not a Robertson in sight." While the Canuckistani bit is inserted in the working shaft of the driver.
Yyyyyyeah :P
It's chucked in the drive because it's used all the time.
"If I could get wooden handled everything, I WOOD". He's like my 3rd father. Love his humor, channel and his knowledge!
3rd father?
@@calculator1841 I'm adopted. My biological father, my foster father and my RUclips father, AvE!
I got into the Wera for working on pro audio equipment, and guitar tech.
The tapered fit on their hex and Torx give them a very good fit.
It's also impressive that their magnetic bits fit the chuck with no slop at all.
My Wiha have become spares, for now.
When I was working I called on hospitals and I would sometimes go into the gift shop. Some hospitals purchased one use sterilized stainless picks, scissors, and tweezers. After surgery, they would sterilize them and sell them in the gift shop for a couple of bucks each. The quality is great, much better than the HF junk. Since these were used in surgery I always took the added precaution of boiling them for 15-20 minutes before use.
Good idea
Check out the Wera 932 Kraftform Plus, they have a pass through blade with a solid metal hammering surface on the butt of the handle, as well as the hex on the shaft to get some extra torque with a wrench if needed
The best tool channel ever!
I think you mean best CHANNEL evar :)
Dave Johnson literally all I watch now. my recommendationd are only Ave at this point
ChrisHallett83 I took a look, and that's 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back. You must be British, huh ? It's okay, being humor-impaired isn't anything to be ashamed of. There's plenty of humor-impaired living really kickass lives. My ex girlfriend was humor-impaired… she's a pilot now.
+Dave hahaha
Got to 'ashamed' and caught the reference. Great adaptation!
WERA - they have a yellow brand - if you can, take a look at them, they have the CV throu the handle, are more robust, you can use them with a hammer to wa(n)ck! - those green ones are no so rubust at all, more for electric-wip-wap.
Video 17 have a full set, yellow and green. use them daily all the way from ripping out windows to screwing bronze screws on a piece of furniture. love the drivers.
as you said though, green for fine work, yellow for rough. btw I work in Germany and i still don't use wiha
+1 for yellow Wera
TheGrimReapergh Warum denn?
Gustavo Hernandez could never justify the price and hell, I use what my boss buys
+1 Wiha precision screwdrivers. Discovered these repairing Apple computers for about 5 years. They feel right and the tips don't break if you're not abusive, I save worn out and broken ones for abuse. The bigger Wiha drivers with the big round handle give more torque with the hand, but quickly make my hands hurt with repetitive use. The tips well outlast Smears Crapsman. I buy Wiha in the US from MCM Electronics.
I bought a set of Felo screwdrivers cause I saw them on your bench a couple months back and boy oh boy they are every bit as good as you say! seriously the best and most positive fit on a Philips driver I've ever used. Well worth every cent!!
The old Stanley cabinet handle screwdrivers, which the don't make any more were unbeatable for tip life and had grip.
My favorites are the Wiha, the handles just fit my hands and are the most comfortable I have used. My second are the old hard handled Snap On, I just couldn't get used to the instinct handles. For Philips and JIS, Vessel makes the best driver hands down, they are just incredible. It's funny you mention Pozidrive. I bet if you asked 100 GM or Chrysler techs about Pozidrive, 99 would look at you like you had two heads. Neither one of those manufacturers has used Philips head screws in decades but everyone uses Philips drivers on these fasteners. I agree with what the others have said about Robertson, It has to be the best screw head design I have ever come across.
Although discontinued, Wiha Proturn 3k are fantastic and also come in ACO versions.
At my shop we got the opposite problem, snap on never shows up, and the turnover rate for snap on reps here for the past 8 years has been insane. Mac just started a route here about 2 years ago and shows up religiously, along with the others, which is why my toolbox is a melting pot of everything from matco, Cornwell, mac, and snap on to craftsman and brands I'm ashamed to mention haha.
@AvE Wera has a series (Kraftform Plus Series 900) with a nut as you say, and the "hexagonal blade is extending through the handle" as they explain... So you didn't choose the right model ;)
9:38 I used to have the mechanism go belly up about every 2-3 years with normal use. It happens commonly enough that the Snap-on dude usually has a couple of rebuild kits on the truck with him, or he just exchanged it for a new one but yes, they do eventually strip/go bad, with normal, frequent use.
I've got a medium sized Snap On black handled #2 Phillips screwdriver. I've been using it for 38 years. It works like a boss.
ive got the full set of snap on instinct screwdrivers, theyre great! we have 3 guys in the shop that have the same set and we all love them, highly recommend
What would you recommend for a left-handed screwdriver?
oragamihawk How on earth are screwdrivers left hand discriminatory?!
Anonymouspock Well if you think about it, they aren't, if you think harder about it, that's the joke.
+Anonymouspock There's two ways a screwdriver can be "left-handed", which makes for three kinds in total - bit, grip, and bit-and-grip. Left _bit_ screwdrivers have a reversed end, for use with screws with left-handed threading. Left _grip_ screwdrivers have a reversed handle, so you can apply more torque when it's held with the left hand. Left-bit-and-grip is just those two features combined, but they're incredibly rare.
oragamihawk I'm left handed and have the same problem holding screwdrivers. So what I do is hold my screwdriver with my right hand, and the beer with my left.
maybe look into a metric phillips head screwdriver
is the audio off, more at the end?
yep seems like it
When I have a handle that has no purchase, I do the hockey stick handle thing - take cloth hockey tape and pull out some of it and then give the roll a spin to turn the tape into a sticky string. Wrap the string to form a helix on the handle and then keep wrapping the flat part of the tape to cover the wound up string part. Works great.
My favorite driver comes out of a tool kit from a VW 1999 or older. Stranded and fillips bit with plastic handle (not the best handle) but the bit has kept an excellent edge for 15 years now with daily use in automotive service. Get one if you can find it
This may chooch you in the wrong way but the best screwdriver is the one you can find!!!! I swear every time I need a phillips i find a flat head and vise versa. sometimes it aint big enough to fit in the hole or its to big to fit ;).
That's so true! I never have my good screwdrivers on hand, simply because I'm afraid someone is going to use one as a pry bar
undeadlich1 so true, I end up doing impossibly difficult projects with a Leatherman because I didn't bring my tools. 20 min jobs take a hour because of the bulky, unbalanced multitool sucks in any position. All while my wife saying supportive things like "it's hot out here" or "you said 5 mins 5 mins ago".
Timothy Jesse pick up a gerber center drive lol make your life a little easier
derek leverknight good idea! The Gerber Center Drive solves the exact problem of having a screwdriver in a multitool. Only $90, one hand operation, and made in USA too! RUclips comments are not supposed to be this civil, so eat shit.
Have you considered putting your tools away when you're done with them?
I like the Wera ones. Decent quality and grip and they are (relatively) cheap! Compared to Snap On they are free
wera aint cheap price either
Harbor freight tho... nice to get a screwdriver that strips before the head of the screw you're screwing.
mark putham I just fucked up one of those today removing the plastic shroud screws on a push mower. what a piece of shit
They are the absolute worst!
Maybe I've just had good luck with their free screwdrivers, but I haven't seriously damaged one yet and I use them for prying and chiseling (alu, iron, steel, etc.) when I don't want to mess up a tool I care about and don't want/need a big prybar. Hammered on them all sorts of ways (steel hammer) and haven't even broken a handle. The handles even feel pretty decent other than the sharp edges toward the tip. Cut the shank off of one and turned the flathead into a oil pump primer, the steel isn't nearly as soft as I expected. They're free.99 and feel better and more solid than some of the expensive sets I've used.
I broke the plastic handle (like a spiral bone fracture) trying to loosen a phillips.
Oh, wait, I just remembered that they changed their handles in the last year or two. The old ones (rounded, with lugs) were uncomfortable and brittle, the new ones (square) are what I really like. The new ones are shaped like the Mac driver in this video. Not sure if the metal changed, but I can put the handle on an anvil and hammer on it without it breaking.
I really like the snap-on ratcheting screw drivers. I have several. One other trick with those, and quarter inch extension can be used to make a really long shank as needed. Great for this hard to reach ones.
Nothing wrong with a reach around among friends
as an electrician/machine builder wiha is hands down my favorite to use ans worth the money
I hate lacquered handles. I always sand it off and just apply a light coat of boiled linseed oil.
i beliebe its the beech woodbthat makes those felos so great. beech just can not be beat! the old collectible 200 yr old stanley plame bodies are made of beech for avreason
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josh verne you won't believe what happened!!! Not click bait!!!
josh verne Heh heh, Wranglerstar, I c wot u did there
Lacquer is for furniture, oil is for tools.
I don't use boiled, I use natural linseed oil because I'm overly cautious about the lead and cobalt in it even though it has been used for nigh 600 years now.
Patrick Hale I don't have a source for non boiled... Any recommendations on some I could order online?
No pb Swiss?! oh man, you're missin out! Thanks for the video Ave!
Justplanecrazy25 oh yes baby
a bit pricy, but they last a lifetime
Another shout out for PB Swiss here! I work in semicon and nobody uses anything else in that branche. The classic style is very easy to keep clean and has great grip even with two pairs of gloves on (undergloves and nitrile). I have broken a few of their allen keys while torquing down turbo pumps though.. But I can't think of any other brand that would take that kind of abuse better.
The "classic" transparent-red PB screw drivers develop a very particular smell/ odeur if stored in a low-air-circualtion drawer/ etc.
turbostewi I don't think this is likely to happen in a cleanroom environment, I've never seen it or heard anyone in the branche complain about it. On the other hand, I think we burn through these drivers too quick for the plastic to go bad. Keep in mind ratchets and the like are rarely used, to prevent contamination from the moving parts, so the screwdrivers see the most use.
THIS is very probably the difference! Saw/ smelled it in a drawer of a "collection" (screw drivers collected over years or even decades, used with sweaty palms and thrown back into drawer) of PBs in a steel drawer in an industrial environment.
I love my snap on ratcheting screwdriver. I've been using it for at least 10 years now.
As a general use and abuse screw driver I like the matco ones. They have a nice shaft like snapon with the wrench slot. They also have a flocking material so even if you hand is soaked in oil they are still grippy. Now they just need to add lanyards so I don't leave them on trucks for frig sakes
AvE is the only guy on the entire internet, who makes me watch 15mins vijeo of goddamn screwdrivers, and I am barely breathing watching it.
No regrets.
and now I really want those wooden Felo screwdrivers, even thou I don't need them. But they are a thing of beauty.
I love my set of craftsman screwdrivers. The Phillips drivers are especially wonderful.
Used Wiha a lot in an aerospace machine shop. Especially for changing cutting inserts in lathe and mill tooling. Between Wiha for Torx and Bondhus for the allen heads (usually hid the Bondhus drivers from coworkers so that I had something that would loosen the screws that some of the shop apes seemed to tighten to 27 gazillion inch pounds - Bondhus were the only ones that wouldn’t strip when breaking them loose)
Thanks
I got tired of the cheap soft modern screwdriver so I bought a bunch of vintage Stanleys w wood handles. They are much harder steel.
I know this vid is 6+ yrs old but I just stumbled across it. Klein just came out (fall 2023) with a full sized precision bit driver with 27 bits! They have 2 models. Part 32327 has the precision bits with tamper proof bits and 32328 has the Apple bits. I got one of them and I've been blown away by it. It's light weight and the end of the handle spins making it super easy to work on computers and the small fasteners.
I am a Maintenance Manager at a Hyatt Place hotel. And I have always have a love for the klein type drivers. Especially the 11n1 I use it daily and it honestly lasts quite a while. So im with ya on the Klein.
".......the tip is way to hard as every High School debutant will tell ya...."
OMG! I have tears from laughing so hard over that comment.
Brings back a few memories.....
he's so funny. he should write jokes for comedians and tv.
I almost fell out of my chair laughing so hard...
I laughed so hard I fell out of my chair and hit my head. The hit lowered my Iq by 20 point! Don’t worry, it was low to begin with. That why I laughed at the joke
I gotta give a little defense to Wera tools, I like them. The grips tend to get sticky in oily environments but eh that´s actually what you want when everything else is slippery. Wiha is a bit of Hilti, boutique style screwdrivers. I favour Hazet tools, they got everything from screwdrivers to torque wrenches, that came and mostly come with lifetime warranty. I recently got a torque wrench recalibrated that my granddad passed on to me for drinking a coffee with them.
Honestly, the Felo driver handles he DOES like look to me to have a very similar shape as the Wera drivers he doesn't like.
PB Swiss Tools is missing. For me the best out there, made in Switzerland!
They're expensive, but feel great. I have the ratcheting full size and a stubby one that I keep a careful eye on.
I thought PB Swiss were hype & they aren't widely available in the US. Then i got a set of classic handles & an Insider as a gift... Damned if they aren't every bit as good as advertised.
I'd rate their slotted tips as the best in the world by a good margin. Grace gunsmithing drivers are really good, but PB is better. For Phillips, Torx, Hex & everything else, Wera, Wiha, Felo, Snap-On, Vessel, Zephyr, & Apex are as good.
For Robertson, those 2-pc originals from Canada are the best, but impossible to buy now in the US. Gonna have to get some imported 3rd party.
@@GabeMacDonnell you can get real pb swiss on amazon now
they are really nice. and not too expensive
There cannot be a discussion about screwdrivers without PB Swiss
Micheil McMahon especially slotted screwdrivers. To me, their slotted screwdrivers are leagues above everyone else.
The snap-on one has a shank you can get for converting to 1/4 drive sockets.
Picked up one of the Snap-On stubby ratcheting screwdrivers at an estate sale for $1. Had to get a new shank, but HOLY CRAP, it really is awesome. Best ratcheting screwdriver I've ever used.
I'd still never buy it new, but I love this little thing.
Personally, I use screwdrivers from different brands, so that I can more easily find the one with the ride blade in my tool bag.
Full time mechanic, im on my 7th snap on ratcheting screwdriver because the ratchets keep breaking. I only bought it once though.
get your hands on some Gedore tools next time you are in Europe
Made a set of checkering tools with large very ruff cut handles. Those were the best handles for grip I've ever owned. I now take the finish off all wood handles and just take a sharp knife and cut slices off in all directions. The out of round,ruff surface makes for terrific gripping. Learned this from an old wood carver. All his tool handles were just hogged down as if they were in 1st stage of production. hundreds of small surfaces to allow for good grip.
100% agree about the stubby snap-on screw driver. My primary screwdriver but I use the solid shafts with tips. Hardly use the Bit shaft.
My home ratcheting screwdriver is the Roto and love it for less critical work.
Those full size Wiha with the spinny cap are, by far, my favorites! Not the precision set, the red handle set with the black cap like the 51090.
Brownell's Magna Tip & Chapman Manufacturing Sets. Expensive, but skookum & made in the USA. Hollow grind makes all the difference with flat heads.
Glad someone else brought this up, why are hollow ground flat screw drivers SO difficult to find?
Forgotten technology I suppose... I hated flathead screws my entire life until I experienced a proper set of hollow ground gunsmithing bits.
Chapman has a good write-up about why they are superior. chapmanmfg.com/pages/insert-bits
I'm glad you mentioned the Wiha, those are my choice.
vabeachkevin cause you probably never used Wera ;)
Krzysztof I haven't. Would you say they are better?
I would say if you had chance, you should try. Those have this LaserTip, that i found to actually work. I also have a set of Wiha ESD set, i don't like those. Wera cause of not beeing totally round has better grip. They also have this 932 series, that has a hex shape on the blade. Only thing from Wiha that i like more is VDE torque screwdriver that is more compact.
The small scraper that you said you never have seen is a scraper made for removing gule when changing Car windshiels. I use the Daily, bcause it is my job. They are great. thanks for the video.
I bought the wooden felos, and absolutely love them. Couldn't love them more. Thank you!
FYI: wera and wiha is pronounced “Vera” and “Veha”
The German W sounds like a V.
Just a a fun fact for y’all!
And Witte screwdrivers sound like Vitta.
As I am sat in my room looking at my 40" snap on roll cab, I am glad with my "Investment"!
It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on files. I would imagine that is a tool where the quality of the steel and the machining process is pretty important. I've never seen a screw on file handle like that, in fact I can't seem to find any kind of file handles in the big box stores down here.
I’m too frugal (wife would call me something else) to buy a full set of high ends screwdrivers for infrequency of which I’d use them. But I do have two snap on screw drivers a #2 Phillips long and regular length. Those being the two I reach for the most. They just feel so damn perfect in the hand. And they grip those screws damn near perfect. Definitely worth it IMO.
I do hospital MRO, and recently a nurse brought me a "broken" Conmed Linvatec ratcheting handpiece, for installing orthopedic screws. It's a Snap-On! Same shape, markings & ratchet. They modify the retaining springso it can't be easily removed. Still, i got her working in about 2 minutes. Not sure if they'll use it, since it wasn't repaired by a tech. If not, guess who got a new Snap -On handle? ;)
First driver he picks up has a Robertson bit. How Canadian.
Call me old school but all my screwdrivers at home are Craftsman. And all my HVAC tools are Klein. My go to is a six way; 2 size straight, 2 size Phillips and 1/4” and 5/16” hex.
I love that little Snapon I can’t keep it out of my guys hands and in my box
I like the Wiha drivers, super nice quality and innovative features. I've only broken one but I dropped it off my two story roof onto concrete.
Wiha, Wera, Bondhus, Felo, Klein, and Knipex. For turning fasteners, cutting, and gripping, these are the way to go.
I have a wiha terminal driver set, had it for the past 6 years can't say a bad word about them.
Got a link for the little japanese screwdriver set?
It's Daiso:
www.google.com/search?q=Daiso+screwdriver+set#q=Daiso+screwdriver+set&safe=off&tbm=shop
Gotta say I really like my Craftsman screwdrivers [got 'em a couple years ago, and mine were made in the USA...]. I looked at Klein, too, but couldn't justify the price...and the weird Klein-looking yet beat-up-beyond-identification screwdrivers my dad's had floating around as long as I can remember also kinda put me off...and I wasn't sure if I'd like the rubber. >__> Anyway, parsecs better than my tiny-slick-handled chinesium ones I'd had since I was 12 and suffered using for far too long because I thought the Craftsman ones I was used to of my dad's were expensive.
The Snap-on handles look like they're probably even better. It's weird looking at screwdriver handles online...or even in Horror Fright. They mostly all look the same. And the WeraWihaWhatsit handles look odd to me, so it's nice to get some confirmation that my intuition might be right and they're not somehow magic.
I actually made a square[ish] file handle for my mill bastard and I really, really like it. Of course, I'm biased, and probably don't use a file near as often as you, but.... Oh, and it's pressed/hammered on instead of screwed and its flats are on the sides the file's are, so that probably helps.
I am a maintenance electrician and I love the Megapro screw drivers. They are available in many drivers from Robertson, Philips, Flat, Allen, Torques and security bits. I find the bits to be nice and hard as they last on the sight day in and day out. I love the ability to switch from one to another quickly and easily. once I found the locking yellow driver I was hooked. The blue yellow tends to drop bits often. This helps keep my tool bag light. I did find the handle to be a bit hard on the hands but once it gets used a bit it feels good in the hands. check them out and let me know what you think and keep up the awesome work.
Those snap-off ratcheting screwdrivers, you can use a 1/4" extension to further extend the reach. Haven't found a need for it yet though lol. A lot of tools I went with other brands, but screwdrivers and ratchets I got all snap on. Even broke down and bought snap on screw drivers for home
Can we please all agree to completely stop using standard drives, I know they're cheaper, but they really suck. I like coin slot drives for low torque, tool-less situations. I'm not a fan of Philips or its redheaded cousin Philips Slotted, or any of the following similar drives from out yonder; Frearson, French recess, Cross, JIS, Pozidriv, SupaDriv and TriPoint. Allen and Roberson were both useful back in the day, but started to feel dated about a decade ago. It would be so nice to carry a full suite of Torx bits and nothing else. I wish Torx Plus was common, probably won't catch on for a while though.
Eric Chandler a good driver works fine with Phillips
in german cars almost all the bolts are either torx or torx-plus and its amazing, been working on them for a few years now and can count the times i've stripped a head on 1 hand
@@jobdylan5782 Seeing as how I've NEVER stripped a torx, I'd beg to differ. I've done in many a Phillips and flat head. But torx GRABS and holds on. Honestly I'd love if everything was torx and Allen.
The only problem with torx imo is that when the screw is really stuck, it wont strip, but your bit will twist or break.. or im just using cheap torx bits
If you work on antiques, you will have flatheads.
The Germans definitely make the best tools. Love the Stahlwille brand, by far the best. Snap-on quality varies too much.
I heard a lot of talk about handles, how they feel and whether you can beat on them... BUT my main focus when buying a screwdriver is the precision of the tip. I’m talking about how precise is the tip ground and how durable it is. I’m not talking about little “precision” screwdrivers. It doesn’t matter how pretty the handle is if the tip is junk. A good screwdriver digs in precisely and doesn’t strip the screw like a cheap screwdriver. Which screwdriver has the best tips?
I bought two Snap-On ratcheting screwdrivers when I was working on avionics in 2007. I got a regular and stubby driver, and a 10" extension shank. The #2 Phillips bits I got are also grooved at the tip and grab like a gator. I've used the hell out of these screwdrivers and they've never let me down. I even had to use the stubby handle on the 10" shank a few times in awkward places. Indispensible.
I bought a 51 piece Craftsman bit driver set, with the red and black handle. Non-ratcheting, really nice driver, handle felt perfect in my hand and it came with 50 bits of varying flavors (including Robertson lol). I had the thing for probably seven years, consistently used, never lost a bit, but I gave it one too many whacks with the hammer to pry something and finally broke the part that holds the bit at the end of the shaft. Just my luck, Craftsman doesn't make them anymore, so they're not covered under the lifetime warranty. I was really sad. That was an excellent driver, in my opinion.
For all the european lovers of quality tools: Proxxon
Proxxon NO 23 107 is a god send when you need to get into wierd things
Felo. I think my dad has a set of those.
MazeFrame thanks a lot for the idea!
"Not a robbie in sight"
Literally one attached to the spinnin end
Why are you misquoting him?. Was it that difficult to write Robertson?... fkn hell some people...
No insulated screwers eh? They were my go-to when I still did electrical work
You can get the Wiha drivers on amazon for a pretty decent price here in canada. The sets are fairly expensive but they have anti-shock ones for electrical work that are rated to 1000V protection... whatever that means im not an electrician lol
Work in the cigarette making industry and use a set of Felo Smart since 20 + years- briliant. They are used like a standard screwdriver but can be flipped over to be used as a T- handle. Set is sold here in Germany for 60 bucks. Check them out - awesome. Could not survive without them anymore.
"...i don't like a feel in my hand...." - try changing a hand they say, it is completely different experience :)
your Mac man sounds like the one we have here in Iowa
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If you wanna manipulate seals without cutting into them, that's what clubs are for. Keeps their hides nice and free of holes, better for resale.
I like the nicholson file handel that has the clamp action so you can change it out... the wood ones just get chewed up in accordance to the poken end weble wobbling around.
I have all sorts but Felo are my favourite. Excellent quality and the best handle.
Some Snap-on are rebranded Irazola/Acesa/Irimo made in Spain so you can buy them for a fraction of the price if you don't care for the Snap-on logo.