Dark comedies need to understand _why_ what is happening is disturbing and wrong, otherwise it doesn't work. Unless David Lynch is in charge they also need to have just _one_ person being insane and weird, not literally everyone.
+modelmajorpita If dark comedies "understood" why what is happening is disturbing and wrong they would cease to be dark comedies and turn into horror movies. Next time think before you speak. Trust me, it pays off.
Roger Gurman Wow, your comment is idiotic. So you don't think there can be intentional dark comedies then? Or, for that matter, that anything other than horror can be dark? I guess if people know what they are doing, they can't use that knowledge to make any genre of film other than horror films. You know nothing of thinking. Start with learning the difference between "so bad they're good" horror movies, and "dark comedies", I'm guessing that's your problem.
modelmajorpita Not as idiotic as yours, by any rate. *So you don't think there can be intentional dark comedies then?* In order for me to properly process that I need to understand how you derive such nonsense from what I said. *Or, for that matter, that anything other than horror can be dark?* Every genre can be dark, sure, but what makes dark COMEDY dark is the fact that the horrible things happening there are perceived as norm by the majority of characters. Hence the misreactions from the said characters and other silly and unrealistic things. Man, you're as stupid as a plank of wood.
Roger Gurman "In order for me to properly process that I need to understand how you derive such nonsense from what I said." Sorry, you were responding to a version of what I said that only exists inside your head rather than the actual comment I made. It made things confusing, since I can't see the version that your deluded brain came up with so that you can feel smart compared to a strawman idiot. Although, since _both_ idiotic comments were your creation, you'd have been better off keeping your unjustified smugness to yourself. Now it's obvious to everyone what a fool you are. "Every genre can be dark, sure, but what makes dark COMEDY dark is the fact that the horrible things happening there are perceived as norm by the majority of characters." Do you think the writers and directors are characters in the film? Perhaps if you actually knew who David Lynch was, you wouldn't have made a fool of yourself. l2read, dipshit.
@@kamenanew9867 Try watching Drowning Mona. Great cast, interesting premise, yet it fails entirely at every single...On second thought, don't watch it. Don't do that to yourself.
The poster art for Mr. Wrong displays Ellen Degeneres' mouth wide open in terror, she's wearing a wedding dress she clearly doesn't enjoy as Bill Pullman looms over her making no eye contact. RUN ELLEN RUN!
Don't forget "Milk Money". That one was so bad my father banned blockbuster since it was in the kids section and we brought it home. To this day, I don't know who it was for.
"We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We’re going to live on! We’re going to survive! Today we celebrate our Co-dependence Day!”
My mother saw the trailer for this and was made physically ill by the subject matter. When she saw the film by accident she went into a rage and ranted about it for a week. Had to pop in City Slickers just to calm her down
Jesus! At least "Weird Al" Yankovic's song "Melanie" ends with the stalker dying, and the girl being free of him! Plus in that song the stalker isn't exactly portrayed as a "good guy."
Similarly with his song "Do I Creep You Out?", or at least in the music video he did in collaboration with JibJab, where the stalker ends up arrested for his continual invasions of privacy and thrown in prison.
I've hated this movie for a long LONG time, and here I thought it'd been completely forgotten by everyone. Bill Pullman gave it his all, so did Cusack, but this is just an odious, toxic film that almost killed off Ellen's career. Even the memories of it hurt.
Allison's quest to watch anything and everything Dean Stockwell has coincidentally gotten her to review a movie starring Ellen Degeneres and Bill Pullman in a week when BOTH stars have box office top 10 movies out in theaters. Maybe I should watch some "Quantum Leap" and buy a lottery ticket.
I started thinking at first that this plot sounded like a psychological thriller, and then every single thing you said from that point just added to that. I want to see this exact same story, handled as a dark psych-thriller as it always should have been.
Okay, a black romantic comedy with Bill Pullman and Ellen Degeneres. How bad can it be-JESUS CHRIST. Just these clips....are making me feel UNCOMFORTABLE. First time I fell in love, I became obsessed and, yes, a stalker. I've never forgiven myself for that. I can't see that being funny in any way, shape, or form. This isn't funny. This is disturbing. This isn't romantic. This is disturbing. THIS IS FUCKED UP Jesus, Allison-just these clips make me feel....unclean. Wow. Just wow.
Actually, this is kind of funny to sane people who never stalked anyone. I guess the stalkers among us would hate this movie just like people who fell victims to sharks would hate "Jaws" and bitch & moan all day about people being too lightheaded about the threat sharks pose to humanity and there not being enough alertness brought upon the subject.
Tareltonlives It's a movie, and it's all that matters. Violent crimes are even more common, so what's your point, "The Godfather" is a horrible movie because a lot of characters get hurt and killed? Or if you want a comedy, as irrelevant as the genre is, how about "Hot Shots"? A lot of violence and jokes about violence and death. *Rape is a choice. Sharks eating people is not* That's the most stupid fucking thing I've ever heard.
yeah it's odd that when this happens to a female character it's meant to be a comedy and yet the movie featuring a stalking female is a horror movie called Fatal Attraction
+Ralph Bromley Well... after watching this review... I'm surprised that Hollywood made two versions of a gender switched of Fatal Attraction! One as a shit comedy in 1996 starring Ellen DeGeneres and one as shit thriller in January of last year starring J.Lo.
The movie All About Steve has Sandra Bullock basically stalk a guy until he's terrified of her. But because she's not really all there mentally, but in a sort of nice way, the movie treats HIM like the weirdo for not seeing the good in her. Some writers just don't seem to realise how messed up the things they portray actually are.
+Sam Vimes What about the crap Fox Comedy movie where Cameron Diaz teams up with a supermodel and some other girl to get revenge on some guy and Nikki Minaj is the best character in it?
it is Jarring watching Ellen play a straight character, but I think that's because (given my age) I know her mostly as a personality than an actress...unlike the other Ellen (page) whom I can see playing ether like her straight roles or her overtly gay role in Freeheld (and that's got nothing to do with ether women's gender presentation BTW) but yeah, as Alison said it makes this movie 10x more uncomfortable being played by Ellen and sort of (not) funny as its like some poor gay women being besieged by all the worst parts of heterosexuality
Headcanon: The lady decided to play along at the end after realising no one would help her and murdered the stalker guy in his sleep the same night the movie ended
The "You stupid dick..dick " line was probably the only thing I remember laughing at in this..Ellens delivery of that line is what made it even better lol. I remember this movie bombing bad when it came out and I watched it the year she came out so the whole time I was watching it I just kept thinking that Ellen looked really uncomfortable but for completely different reasons then the movie implies.
Still love Bill Pullman no matter how wrongly he picks movies. Anyway, the funny thing is who the director is. Just check out his movie credits. This guy, Nick Castle, also directed the classic 80s kids sci-fi The Last Starfighter (1984) and wrote the quintessential classic Carpenter/Russell Sci-Fi flick Escape from NY as well as Spileberg/Robin William's The Hook AND he played Mike Myers in the original Halloween. And the three writers of this thing? The most prolific one of them also wrote Bill and Tedd's movies and cartoon, Mom and Dad Save the World and A Goofy Movie. The other wrote nothing else and the third wrote episodes for kids show and Parenthood the series. How schyzo is this creative team, man? :D
Just noticed the Atop the Fourth Wall DVD on your shelf. Real friends buy each other's DVDs. Also this movie really feels like it was written by the trolls that infest your comments section.
(Obligatory Finding Dory/Independence Day: Resurgence Joke) From now on, Movies With Bill Pullman and Movies With Ellen DeGeneres must be released a week apart from each other.
I remember watching this when I was younger (14 or 15) and being deeply confused and unnerved by the whole thing. I also didn't get most of the jokes. I had buried in the depths of my subconscious. I'm sad you watched it.
Thankfully, Bill Pullman later starred in a much better movie in 1996 which became a box office hit., and it's sad to know that the guy who played Michael Myers in the original Halloween went on to make this crap.
There was this period in the 90s when I swear that all movies were just like this--a hapless man or woman is subjected to endless humiliation and put in constant physical danger by some asshole. Sometimes that asshole was a redheaded kid, or a kid played by Martin Short, or an imaginary friend.
I've never seen this and never will, but I can still remember the Mr. Cranky review for this movie, the only one of his I can remember word for word, because his analogy for the experience of watching this film was pure gold lmao. And your thumbnail pic is amazing lolol
I normally save the comments for newer videos, but it showed up in my feed for some reason and I had to talk about it. When I saw the name, I got kind of excited. I remembered it being a movie I saw when I was really little and liked a lot. Then the video began and slowly I felt this nagging "Oh no..." and I realized. This isn't the movie I liked. This is the movie my Grandma and I tuned into when randomly going through channels, and for like 5 years after joked about as the worst thing we'd ever seen. I had no idea Ellen DeGeneres was in it as well. The only scene I really remember is when they realize they forgot to put airholes for the ants, since it was the only thing I actually found funny in the movie. I was like 7 or so I think, so it's all hazy, but revisiting it was kind of weird. Edit: 1996? Guess I was older then that, weird. I remember it being super early.
The sad thing is, there is this awareness of romantic comedies involving creepy overwhelming stalking. The thing is, that's the joke in this movie. It's funny that he's being creepy because of the brass music and zoom ins. It's funny because it's awkward. But that doesn't work. They could have just gone with "she wants a love life like the one in movies, be careful what you wish for" or "he learned everything about love from movies, and it backfires". Dark comedy requires a lot more thought, and this doesn't have that thought for it. You have to laugh at SOMETHING. There's no irony, and she's suffering the butt of everything. It's mistaking the creepiness as the humor itself, when it needs a context to actually be funny. This is the equivalent about a movie where someone keeps getting hit by a car without any sort of timing, reason, or payoff. Repeated jokes need payoff. There's no punchline. Then there's the #niceguy; a real comedy would point out how the two guys are pretty much the same, and eventually she'd kick out both of them or have them arrested. Or maybe #niceguy actually sees how she's being effected by the more aggressive stalker and learns that what he's doing is wrong and changes his ways. I just don't get how someone being victimized for two hours is a comedy.
I clearly remember almost renting that movie in the 90s but decided something else instead last minute. after watching this review I realized I dodged a bullet
I've had similar things happen, break up and say "we broke up" and everyone says, "look how dedicated!" "They love you!" "Give them one more shot"... no.
I used to see bits and pieces of this movie over the years on tv and I never got the point of it, like ever. Because I didn't sit down and fully watch it, which was hard cause its a pretty boring film, I didn't understand how fucked up it is. Its not the first film that treats men being creepy towards women as "funny" and it being "romantic". An example of this is Love Potion No. 9 in which the male lead "seduces" women with a magic potion that he drinks and can control them just by talking to them, aka he pulls a Kilgrave on them. But its suppose to be funny and not disturbing like on Jessica Jones. For real, many writers, who I am assuming are male, just treated or still treat scenarios where men being creepy as no big deal. Its fucking infuriating...
That's why I love Rick and Morty. They have an episode dedicated to taking the piss out of the whole "love potion" trope (the episode is called Rick Potion #9, which I think is a great reference). When Morty asks Rick to make him a love potion, Rick calls him out on it, saying that that's literally drugging a girl and forcing her to perform sexual acts against her own volition. It's a really great show.
This movie severely misuses Bill Pullman by not understanding his energy as a performer. Another film of his, Zero Effect, is way better movie and totally nails the social awkwardness that eludes them here.
This is among those odd comedies of the 90's that have just awful implications about everyone involved. The list includes this piece of ass, Drop Dead Fred, Little Monsters and North. What the FUCK, 90's?!
You are right about Little Monsters being from 1989. I suppose it's just the era in-general, because by that standard you could include The Garbage Pail Kids, huh?
Well, there have always been bad movies, going all the way back the nickelodeons of the late 19th century. That said, I was not defining any one era in-particular as being "the worst", I was just referring to a particular period of time where movies aimed at younger audiences were much darker, some of which had a certain unpleasant nature about them. As for "worst time for movies", I don't think there is an objective "worst". I certainly think movies today are more shallow, but a lot of that comes from things like CGI creatnig a crutch for filmmakers and trending movies that are just bad in-general. That said, 90's had Mr. Payback, the 80's had Leonard Part 6, the 70's: J.D.'s Revenge, the 60's: The Fat Spy, ect., ect., ect. However, for every unmitigated disaster, there are a number of legitimately-good movies. I think the problem is right now studios are scared because they feel like the theatrical system is growing irrelevant, so they're backing gambles for big-budget movies and when they do not perform well, they sort of hide other films by under-promoting them so that these over-priced disasters can get the bulk of the attention. I dunno. I love movies of all periods and studios have a long history of pulling shit like this. So, I think once people stop buying tickets and start turning their attention to digitial medium for indie movies and such, the studios will begin being a little more discriminating about what they choose to promote.
I love this series so much (almost as much as baywatching. Almost) . These movies are so obscure and odd that they lend themselves perfectly to Allisons style. It's just so fucking funny.
One could attempt to justify everything in the movie by saying it's a black comedy and that it's supposed to make light of serious topics; but that still requires the jokes and premises to be funny for it to work.
I actually remember watching this movie when I was 13 and dear God was it unsettling. It was like nothing I'd ever watched before and my tween self just did not know what to make of it. Was I supposed to a) laugh , b) cry , c) assume the fetal position in front of my tv screen rocking and moaning so hard that I drown out this movie , d) swear off any and all interactions with boys for the rest of my life....or e) all of the above? Til this day it is the only movie that I have only watched once and never made any attempt to watch again , bear in mind that I have watched Jack and Jill , Baby Geniuses and Food Fight at least three times ..mainly for the purposes of discussion though. But Mr. Wrong has forever earned itself a place in the deepest darkest recesses of my mind and it is there that it shall stay.
I honestly can't blame you for watching a bad movie for one small part. The only reason I saw Girl Most Likely was because Darren Criss was in it. I am not above suffering through bad movies for actors I love. That said, I don't think even my love for Ellen DeGeneres would compel me to watch this movie.
1:35 I can relate, Allison. I watched Yogi Bear purely because it has Tom Cavanagh in it. To be fair, as these movies (live-action / CGI hybrids) go, that one is not so bad, certainly not on "Garfield" levels, but still, had he not been in it, I probably wouldn't have a reason to watch it in the first place.
Eamonn Deane Oh, yeah, I'm not going to pretend I didn't enjoy it. As I said, for the genre, it's probably the best of the bunch. But, you know, it's not like I was in a rush to see it just because of the title.
Wow. I saw this in theatres. Can't remember why. I assume I was dragged, not a choice I would have made on my own. It's amazing...it was so bad you mentioned so many things I don't even remember from it. In fact...I think the only thing I remebered is that the Bill Pullman character was really into Toto...and I blocked out everything after that
I remember going to see this in theaters back in 1996 with my mom, my sister, and my mom's friend and her kids. I remember finding it funny, but I was almost 10 years old at the time.
I do wonder if they choose the two main characters because... they kinda look like each other? I mean, same nose and face type. They could be brother and sister... which all makes the stalking even creepier. I do wonder about Bill Pullman - he is a talented actor yet he tends to only appear in mostly small, forgotten movies, and then doing a few big ones like Spaceballs and ID4 that everyone remembers.
It’s been years since I’ve seen the movie, but I liked it. We’re all different and have different likes and dislikes… To each their own. I would hardly compare it to a cluster of dicks :)
I seriously hate this damn movie, but the WORST, WORST WORST WORST PART is that this guy apparently SURVIVED and is still looking. Explain to me, how the HELL the Mexican police were like "Oh yeah there was a murder." and yet they allude to the fact the stalker is ALIVE. HOW? HOW HOW HOW?!? RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
This sounds like one of the writers or producers found out Degeneres was gay before she was out and made an entire movie around "punishing" her for it.
This, film is broadcasted repeatedly on weekends and early mornings on local channels as a time filler and when there is a Rain Delay during the local Ballgame
This movie was directed by Michael Myers, yes you heard it right. Nick Castle, who played Michael Myers in the first Halloween film in 1978, directed this film. Crazy...
Ugh. This is reminding me of a movie I watched a few months ago called Man Up, with Simon Pegg. It's actually an okay movie for 75% of the runtime, but there's this really horrible subplot where Lake Bell runs into her old schoolmate who had an unrequited crush on her, and starts trying to force her into really unfunny situations where he tries to solicit sex from her. Then, after the kinda-sorta third act breakup, the creeper shows up at her home, WHICH SENDS HER INTO SHOCK, and he takes advantage of this to pose as her boyfriend, which everyone. Including her parents, believes, despite the fact that she is traumatized, mute, and squirming to get away - and this goes on until Simon Pegg returns for the big reunion. Yuck. It was like watching a perfectly good train get derailed over and over again by the same asshole. Sorry if I went on a tangent, but this review was reminding me of that the whole time.
Allison, I don't blame you one bit for watching it because of Dean Stockwell! I myself watch stuff that's questionable because David Carradine and Bruce Campbell are in them!
To me this was a movie that it's so bad it's good, and I think that's what it was meant to be. I found it refreshing. It was made in a time where all the things Whitman did were actually seen as romantic in society. Which is why all her friends and family think he's great and expressing his romantic feelings. This movie showed what it was like from the woman's perspective. That all his gestures make her uncomfortable, especially after she broke up with him clearly. The first half of the movie shows what it's like to a woman who meets what is like her dream guy that suddenly morphs into a nightmare. I found her perspective to be that she found the whole situation rediculous and kind of treated it initially like a bad dream. This movie put in perspective that those behaviors shouldn't be dismissed. Framing it as a comedy allowed people to explore this topic without immediately turning away from it. I enjoyed watching Martha escape from a seemingly perfect guy to find her own happiness.
"rancid pile of dicks"...my new favorite review quote ever!
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I haven't seen this for forever, maybe just before she officially came out, but her sitcom was dropping enough hints that people were talking, I've still got a pretty vivid memory of how uncomfortable it was too watch. Yeah, you're right, it might be a little enjoyable if interpreted as the horrors of a lesbian trapped in compulsory hetero-bullshit.
*ALL ABOUT STEVE* is cut from the same cloth and its only worse b/c that's not a black comedy. The audience is expected to like Sandra Bullock's character even though she is a crazy stalker.
I have a cousin who will watch anything (and I mean anything) with actors in it she thinks are hot. I've seen her watch the worst movies ever to see five minutes of a guy she thinks is hot.
Ellen's face on the poster says "comedy", but Bill's face says "thriller".
It's like the writer of this movie watched a Lifetime movie and went "This isn't funny enough!"
hmm... this needs CLOWN MAKEUP!
"So let's make it less funny!"
I don't know the few I have been were pretty funny.
"This needs more abduction and rapey overtones"
Dark comedies need to understand _why_ what is happening is disturbing and wrong, otherwise it doesn't work. Unless David Lynch is in charge they also need to have just _one_ person being insane and weird, not literally everyone.
+modelmajorpita If dark comedies "understood" why what is happening is disturbing and wrong they would cease to be dark comedies and turn into horror movies. Next time think before you speak. Trust me, it pays off.
Roger Gurman
Wow, your comment is idiotic. So you don't think there can be intentional dark comedies then? Or, for that matter, that anything other than horror can be dark?
I guess if people know what they are doing, they can't use that knowledge to make any genre of film other than horror films.
You know nothing of thinking. Start with learning the difference between "so bad they're good" horror movies, and "dark comedies", I'm guessing that's your problem.
modelmajorpita Not as idiotic as yours, by any rate.
*So you don't think there can be intentional dark comedies then?*
In order for me to properly process that I need to understand how you derive such nonsense from what I said.
*Or, for that matter, that anything other than horror can be dark?*
Every genre can be dark, sure, but what makes dark COMEDY dark is the fact that the horrible things happening there are perceived as norm by the majority of characters. Hence the misreactions from the said characters and other silly and unrealistic things. Man, you're as stupid as a plank of wood.
Roger Gurman
"In order for me to properly process that I need to understand how you derive such nonsense from what I said."
Sorry, you were responding to a version of what I said that only exists inside your head rather than the actual comment I made. It made things confusing, since I can't see the version that your deluded brain came up with so that you can feel smart compared to a strawman idiot.
Although, since _both_ idiotic comments were your creation, you'd have been better off keeping your unjustified smugness to yourself. Now it's obvious to everyone what a fool you are.
"Every genre can be dark, sure, but what makes dark COMEDY dark is the fact that the horrible things happening there are perceived as norm by the majority of characters."
Do you think the writers and directors are characters in the film?
Perhaps if you actually knew who David Lynch was, you wouldn't have made a fool of yourself. l2read, dipshit.
modelmajorpita Making no sense is yours.
"This movie can eat my entire ass" is my favorite opinion now and forever.
That's flirting to some sick people
I tried liking this based on cast alone but it is ... not ok lol. It bad.
@@kamenanew9867
Try watching Drowning Mona. Great cast, interesting premise, yet it fails entirely at every single...On second thought, don't watch it. Don't do that to yourself.
@@Itcouldbebunnies i actually don't see that one as a fail. Not my favorite but not horrible, to me.
This is the kind of movie that would put "wacky" trombone music over a scene of a small village being fire bombed.
Suggesting that's a bad thing tsk tsk
A small village being firebombed would be funnier than the "Comedy" in this film to be fair
Ah, one of those classic plots where every character has to be stupid in order for the story to work.
I hate movies like that.
Kind of like the Dark Knight Rises.
To be fair, aren’t a lot of comedies like that? Not saying this is a good movie at all, but that’s how many comedies are written.
Man, when your romance makes "Cool As Ice" look like "The Princess Bride," you've...you've really managed something special...
The poster art for Mr. Wrong displays Ellen Degeneres' mouth wide open in terror, she's wearing a wedding dress she clearly doesn't enjoy as Bill Pullman looms over her making no eye contact. RUN ELLEN RUN!
Between "North" and this: What was it with the mid-90's and this kind of unintentionally disturbing comedies?
Don't forget "Milk Money". That one was so bad my father banned blockbuster since it was in the kids section and we brought it home.
To this day, I don't know who it was for.
Also, a little film starring Sissy Spacek titled "Trading Mom."
"Can I French kiss you?" "......Night!"
Priceless.
I love the movie section at the library; it's the only place I can go to feel at home in my floral stretch shorts.
And since video stores are not around anymore, it's the only place in town to borrow a physical copy of a movie, AND you don't have to pay for it.
I thought I was the only one who owned floral stretch shorts!
Around me they have Family Video stores now, which are very similar to old Hollywood Video, but you do have to pay.
I remember checking out "Amadeus" there. I also checked out the audio version of "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" from the audio tape section.
"We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a
fight! We’re going to live on! We’re going to survive! Today we
celebrate our Co-dependence Day!”
My mother saw the trailer for this and was made physically ill by the subject matter. When she saw the film by accident she went into a rage and ranted about it for a week. Had to pop in City Slickers just to calm her down
Jesus! At least "Weird Al" Yankovic's song "Melanie" ends with the stalker dying, and the girl being free of him! Plus in that song the stalker isn't exactly portrayed as a "good guy."
Similarly with his song "Do I Creep You Out?", or at least in the music video he did in collaboration with JibJab, where the stalker ends up arrested for his continual invasions of privacy and thrown in prison.
DurradonXylles Exactly!
I've hated this movie for a long LONG time, and here I thought it'd been completely forgotten by everyone. Bill Pullman gave it his all, so did Cusack, but this is just an odious, toxic film that almost killed off Ellen's career. Even the memories of it hurt.
Allison's quest to watch anything and everything Dean Stockwell has coincidentally gotten her to review a movie starring Ellen Degeneres and Bill Pullman in a week when BOTH stars have box office top 10 movies out in theaters. Maybe I should watch some "Quantum Leap" and buy a lottery ticket.
That's not a bad idea....
"Quantum Leap" is never a bad idea.
I started thinking at first that this plot sounded like a psychological thriller, and then every single thing you said from that point just added to that. I want to see this exact same story, handled as a dark psych-thriller as it always should have been.
Okay, a black romantic comedy with Bill Pullman and Ellen Degeneres. How bad can it be-JESUS CHRIST. Just these clips....are making me feel UNCOMFORTABLE.
First time I fell in love, I became obsessed and, yes, a stalker. I've never forgiven myself for that. I can't see that being funny in any way, shape, or form.
This isn't funny. This is disturbing. This isn't romantic. This is disturbing. THIS IS FUCKED UP
Jesus, Allison-just these clips make me feel....unclean. Wow. Just wow.
Actually, this is kind of funny to sane people who never stalked anyone. I guess the stalkers among us would hate this movie just like people who fell victims to sharks would hate "Jaws" and bitch & moan all day about people being too lightheaded about the threat sharks pose to humanity and there not being enough alertness brought upon the subject.
Jaws wasn't a comedy.
Rape crimes are perpetuated millions of more times than shark attacks
Rape is a choice. Sharks eating people is not.
Tareltonlives It's a movie, and it's all that matters.
Violent crimes are even more common, so what's your point, "The Godfather" is a horrible movie because a lot of characters get hurt and killed? Or if you want a comedy, as irrelevant as the genre is, how about "Hot Shots"? A lot of violence and jokes about violence and death.
*Rape is a choice. Sharks eating people is not*
That's the most stupid fucking thing I've ever heard.
This film would be another Fatal Attraction, if they dropped all the futile attempts at comedy.
yeah it's odd that when this happens to a female character it's meant to be a comedy and yet the movie featuring a stalking female is a horror movie called Fatal Attraction
It usually seems to be the opposite.
+Dunes8 well if you referring to a straightforward horror movie I would agree
+Ralph Bromley Well... after watching this review... I'm surprised that Hollywood made two versions of a gender switched of Fatal Attraction! One as a shit comedy in 1996 starring Ellen DeGeneres and one as shit thriller in January of last year starring J.Lo.
The movie All About Steve has Sandra Bullock basically stalk a guy until he's terrified of her. But because she's not really all there mentally, but in a sort of nice way, the movie treats HIM like the weirdo for not seeing the good in her.
Some writers just don't seem to realise how messed up the things they portray actually are.
+Sam Vimes What about the crap Fox Comedy movie where Cameron Diaz teams up with a supermodel and some other girl to get revenge on some guy and Nikki Minaj is the best character in it?
Ellen makes jokes on her show about how awful this movie is.
At least she can look back on it and laugh.
I remember that she auctioned the wedding dress from the film for charity on her show.
And now other people make jokes on their shows about how awful Ellen is...
This is like a gender-flipped Fatal Attraction, only its somehow even more terrifying!
TheDreReichDude she didn't force him to fuck her, then again he didn't force her to act like a raging lunatic either!
Even the movie poster is of her in utter terror. Who thought that meant 'comedy'?
it is Jarring watching Ellen play a straight character, but I think that's because (given my age) I know her mostly as a personality than an actress...unlike the other Ellen (page) whom I can see playing ether like her straight roles or her overtly gay role in Freeheld (and that's got nothing to do with ether women's gender presentation BTW)
but yeah, as Alison said it makes this movie 10x more uncomfortable being played by Ellen and sort of (not) funny as its like some poor gay women being besieged by all the worst parts of heterosexuality
Yeah poor Ellen. She's had a rough existence.
@@merces47letifer4 Guess she takes it out on her staff.
It's like shock humor but without the humor.
I love her Grumpy Cat face on the thumbnail. 😾
Such a shame, Bill Pullman is usually likable (Spaceballs, Independence Day)
Headcanon: The lady decided to play along at the end after realising no one would help her and murdered the stalker guy in his sleep the same night the movie ended
The "You stupid dick..dick " line was probably the only thing I remember laughing at in this..Ellens delivery of that line is what made it even better lol. I remember this movie bombing bad when it came out and I watched it the year she came out so the whole time I was watching it I just kept thinking that Ellen looked really uncomfortable but for completely different reasons then the movie implies.
That hamburger scene taken out of context makes me laugh hysterically.
Still love Bill Pullman no matter how wrongly he picks movies. Anyway, the funny thing is who the director is. Just check out his movie credits. This guy, Nick Castle, also directed the classic 80s kids sci-fi The Last Starfighter (1984) and wrote the quintessential classic Carpenter/Russell Sci-Fi flick Escape from NY as well as Spileberg/Robin William's The Hook AND he played Mike Myers in the original Halloween. And the three writers of this thing? The most prolific one of them also wrote Bill and Tedd's movies and cartoon, Mom and Dad Save the World and A Goofy Movie. The other wrote nothing else and the third wrote episodes for kids show and Parenthood the series. How schyzo is this creative team, man? :D
This movie is just gross, sorry you had to endure this crap
She didn't have to.
So much trumpet you'd think you were back in Hoenn!
Just noticed the Atop the Fourth Wall DVD on your shelf. Real friends buy each other's DVDs.
Also this movie really feels like it was written by the trolls that infest your comments section.
(Obligatory Finding Dory/Independence Day: Resurgence Joke)
From now on, Movies With Bill Pullman and Movies With Ellen DeGeneres must be released a week apart from each other.
I think a mutual restraining order would be a better idea.
I remember watching this when I was younger (14 or 15) and being deeply confused and unnerved by the whole thing. I also didn't get most of the jokes. I had buried in the depths of my subconscious. I'm sad you watched it.
This belongs on lifetime at 3am, not in theaters! This is insane.
4:07 I can see why it's funny: it's Dean Stockwell in a tacky shirt, smoking a cigar, talking to the male lead. Oh boy.
Thankfully, Bill Pullman later starred in a much better movie in 1996 which became a box office hit., and it's sad to know that the guy who played Michael Myers in the original Halloween went on to make this crap.
There was this period in the 90s when I swear that all movies were just like this--a hapless man or woman is subjected to endless humiliation and put in constant physical danger by some asshole. Sometimes that asshole was a redheaded kid, or a kid played by Martin Short, or an imaginary friend.
I can't wait until she reviews vhs head cleaner!
I love that movie!
I've never seen this and never will, but I can still remember the Mr. Cranky review for this movie, the only one of his I can remember word for word, because his analogy for the experience of watching this film was pure gold lmao.
And your thumbnail pic is amazing lolol
Hahaha thanks Amanda
Movie Nights ;)
So victem blamming: the movie!
Yes! This! This is so, so true!
Victim
@@Moony1568 blammings fine though
I normally save the comments for newer videos, but it showed up in my feed for some reason and I had to talk about it. When I saw the name, I got kind of excited. I remembered it being a movie I saw when I was really little and liked a lot. Then the video began and slowly I felt this nagging "Oh no..." and I realized. This isn't the movie I liked. This is the movie my Grandma and I tuned into when randomly going through channels, and for like 5 years after joked about as the worst thing we'd ever seen. I had no idea Ellen DeGeneres was in it as well. The only scene I really remember is when they realize they forgot to put airholes for the ants, since it was the only thing I actually found funny in the movie. I was like 7 or so I think, so it's all hazy, but revisiting it was kind of weird.
Edit: 1996? Guess I was older then that, weird. I remember it being super early.
The sad thing is, there is this awareness of romantic comedies involving creepy overwhelming stalking. The thing is, that's the joke in this movie. It's funny that he's being creepy because of the brass music and zoom ins. It's funny because it's awkward. But that doesn't work. They could have just gone with "she wants a love life like the one in movies, be careful what you wish for" or "he learned everything about love from movies, and it backfires". Dark comedy requires a lot more thought, and this doesn't have that thought for it. You have to laugh at SOMETHING. There's no irony, and she's suffering the butt of everything. It's mistaking the creepiness as the humor itself, when it needs a context to actually be funny. This is the equivalent about a movie where someone keeps getting hit by a car without any sort of timing, reason, or payoff. Repeated jokes need payoff. There's no punchline.
Then there's the #niceguy; a real comedy would point out how the two guys are pretty much the same, and eventually she'd kick out both of them or have them arrested. Or maybe #niceguy actually sees how she's being effected by the more aggressive stalker and learns that what he's doing is wrong and changes his ways. I just don't get how someone being victimized for two hours is a comedy.
I clearly remember almost renting that movie in the 90s but decided something else instead last minute. after watching this review I realized I dodged a bullet
One of the funniest movies I've ever seen and I'm no big Ellen fan. It's hilarious.
I've had similar things happen, break up and say "we broke up" and everyone says, "look how dedicated!" "They love you!" "Give them one more shot"... no.
I'm sorry I didn't find this channel sooner! This is a good show!
Thanks!
This movie cracks me up.
Allison, is that a sleeveless hoody? I have never seen anything like that... amazing.
Am I the only one that gets that same uncomfortable yet excited 10-years-old-and-watching-cinemax feeling from the intro music?
I used to see bits and pieces of this movie over the years on tv and I never got the point of it, like ever. Because I didn't sit down and fully watch it, which was hard cause its a pretty boring film, I didn't understand how fucked up it is. Its not the first film that treats men being creepy towards women as "funny" and it being "romantic". An example of this is Love Potion No. 9 in which the male lead "seduces" women with a magic potion that he drinks and can control them just by talking to them, aka he pulls a Kilgrave on them. But its suppose to be funny and not disturbing like on Jessica Jones. For real, many writers, who I am assuming are male, just treated or still treat scenarios where men being creepy as no big deal. Its fucking infuriating...
Oh my god that movie sounds horrifying.
It really is, and it was one of Sandra Bullock's first films. She must of had a great agent to bounce back from that...
That's why I love Rick and Morty. They have an episode dedicated to taking the piss out of the whole "love potion" trope (the episode is called Rick Potion #9, which I think is a great reference). When Morty asks Rick to make him a love potion, Rick calls him out on it, saying that that's literally drugging a girl and forcing her to perform sexual acts against her own volition. It's a really great show.
Put a hockey mask on Bill Pullman and this movie would've been gold.
This movie severely misuses Bill Pullman by not understanding his energy as a performer. Another film of his, Zero Effect, is way better movie and totally nails the social awkwardness that eludes them here.
Who even asks "Can I French kiss you?" 👀👀👀
This is among those odd comedies of the 90's that have just awful implications about everyone involved. The list includes this piece of ass, Drop Dead Fred, Little Monsters and North. What the FUCK, 90's?!
We felt stupid, but contagious.
Definitely. That is one messed up movie.
You are right about Little Monsters being from 1989. I suppose it's just the era in-general, because by that standard you could include The Garbage Pail Kids, huh?
Well, there have always been bad movies, going all the way back the nickelodeons of the late 19th century. That said, I was not defining any one era in-particular as being "the worst", I was just referring to a particular period of time where movies aimed at younger audiences were much darker, some of which had a certain unpleasant nature about them.
As for "worst time for movies", I don't think there is an objective "worst". I certainly think movies today are more shallow, but a lot of that comes from things like CGI creatnig a crutch for filmmakers and trending movies that are just bad in-general. That said, 90's had Mr. Payback, the 80's had Leonard Part 6, the 70's: J.D.'s Revenge, the 60's: The Fat Spy, ect., ect., ect. However, for every unmitigated disaster, there are a number of legitimately-good movies. I think the problem is right now studios are scared because they feel like the theatrical system is growing irrelevant, so they're backing gambles for big-budget movies and when they do not perform well, they sort of hide other films by under-promoting them so that these over-priced disasters can get the bulk of the attention. I dunno. I love movies of all periods and studios have a long history of pulling shit like this. So, I think once people stop buying tickets and start turning their attention to digitial medium for indie movies and such, the studios will begin being a little more discriminating about what they choose to promote.
OMG, Little Monsters!! That movie was so ugly. It scared the shit out of me when I was a kid.
I love this series so much (almost as much as baywatching. Almost) . These movies are so obscure and odd that they lend themselves perfectly to Allisons style. It's just so fucking funny.
One could attempt to justify everything in the movie by saying it's a black comedy and that it's supposed to make light of serious topics; but that still requires the jokes and premises to be funny for it to work.
I actually remember watching this movie when I was 13 and dear God was it unsettling. It was like nothing I'd ever watched before and my tween self just did not know what to make of it. Was I supposed to a) laugh , b) cry , c) assume the fetal position in front of my tv screen rocking and moaning so hard that I drown out this movie , d) swear off any and all interactions with boys for the rest of my life....or e) all of the above? Til this day it is the only movie that I have only watched once and never made any attempt to watch again , bear in mind that I have watched Jack and Jill , Baby Geniuses and Food Fight at least three times ..mainly for the purposes of discussion though. But Mr. Wrong has forever earned itself a place in the deepest darkest recesses of my mind and it is there that it shall stay.
I honestly can't blame you for watching a bad movie for one small part. The only reason I saw Girl Most Likely was because Darren Criss was in it. I am not above suffering through bad movies for actors I love. That said, I don't think even my love for Ellen DeGeneres would compel me to watch this movie.
Lone Star with Dory. Memory loss commence.
1:35 I can relate, Allison. I watched Yogi Bear purely because it has Tom Cavanagh in it.
To be fair, as these movies (live-action / CGI hybrids) go, that one is not so bad, certainly not on "Garfield" levels, but still, had he not been in it, I probably wouldn't have a reason to watch it in the first place.
Eamonn Deane Oh, yeah, I'm not going to pretend I didn't enjoy it. As I said, for the genre, it's probably the best of the bunch. But, you know, it's not like I was in a rush to see it just because of the title.
Mr. Wrong is one of my all time favorite movies :)
I loved this movie
Bill Pullman is the only saying grace to this movie. Yes, I'm the one person who liked it. I'll see myself out, lol
I didn't hate it like others do but his other 98 roles are better 😅
Wow. I saw this in theatres. Can't remember why. I assume I was dragged, not a choice I would have made on my own. It's amazing...it was so bad you mentioned so many things I don't even remember from it. In fact...I think the only thing I remebered is that the Bill Pullman character was really into Toto...and I blocked out everything after that
I remember going to see this in theaters back in 1996 with my mom, my sister, and my mom's friend and her kids. I remember finding it funny, but I was almost 10 years old at the time.
Wow. I remember thinking about seeing this when it was in the theaters back then. So glad I didn't.
I do wonder if they choose the two main characters because... they kinda look like each other? I mean, same nose and face type. They could be brother and sister... which all makes the stalking even creepier.
I do wonder about Bill Pullman - he is a talented actor yet he tends to only appear in mostly small, forgotten movies, and then doing a few big ones like Spaceballs and ID4 that everyone remembers.
It’s been years since I’ve seen the movie, but I liked it. We’re all different and have different likes and dislikes… To each their own. I would hardly compare it to a cluster of dicks :)
I seriously hate this damn movie, but the WORST, WORST WORST WORST PART is that this guy apparently SURVIVED and is still looking. Explain to me, how the HELL the Mexican police were like "Oh yeah there was a murder." and yet they allude to the fact the stalker is ALIVE. HOW? HOW HOW HOW?!? RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
The pi turned? Your romcom should not have me thinking about the fucking Purple Man.
Directed by Nick Castle.
Wow. Micheal Myers really IS evil.
Someone needs to send this review to the producers of Ellen's show
Ellen needs to do a retrospective on this piece of...I don't even know
On it.
Poor Allison... I can't imagine having to watch this whole movie...
This sounds like one of the writers or producers found out Degeneres was gay before she was out and made an entire movie around "punishing" her for it.
So much trumpeting in this, I'm guessing this was a Danny Elfman soundtrack.
This, film is broadcasted repeatedly on weekends and early mornings on local channels as a time filler and when there is a Rain Delay during the local Ballgame
"Loud trumpet music" may have just been shorthand for comedy in the '90s.
one solid rewrite and this actually couldve been a helluva 90s Lifetime movie.
This movie was directed by Michael Myers, yes you heard it right. Nick Castle, who played Michael Myers in the first Halloween film in 1978, directed this film. Crazy...
He was still in character when he wrote this apparently
Ugh. This is reminding me of a movie I watched a few months ago called Man Up, with Simon Pegg. It's actually an okay movie for 75% of the runtime, but there's this really horrible subplot where Lake Bell runs into her old schoolmate who had an unrequited crush on her, and starts trying to force her into really unfunny situations where he tries to solicit sex from her. Then, after the kinda-sorta third act breakup, the creeper shows up at her home, WHICH SENDS HER INTO SHOCK, and he takes advantage of this to pose as her boyfriend, which everyone. Including her parents, believes, despite the fact that she is traumatized, mute, and squirming to get away - and this goes on until Simon Pegg returns for the big reunion. Yuck. It was like watching a perfectly good train get derailed over and over again by the same asshole.
Sorry if I went on a tangent, but this review was reminding me of that the whole time.
I enjoyed that movie a lot, despite normally not liking rom-coms, but I too felt that subplot was really contrived and unnecessary.
Konnie The Hero Yeah, the rest of the movie was really not bad at all. That's what made the subplot all the more frustrating for me.
It's a Simon Pegg movie-it's going to be painful to watch
The description you gave of Man Up makes me think of Tales from the Crypt.
How did this movie get green lit in the first place?
0:46 seconds in and I see Dean Stockwells. This review suddenly makes perfect sense.
Man Bill Pullman was really barking up the wrong tree there.
I loved this movie as a kid! Why? I don't know!
Allison, I don't blame you one bit for watching it because of Dean Stockwell! I myself watch stuff that's questionable because David Carradine and Bruce Campbell are in them!
I don't think I'm ever gonna touch this one even for Nopevember. This video is enough!
To me this was a movie that it's so bad it's good, and I think that's what it was meant to be. I found it refreshing. It was made in a time where all the things Whitman did were actually seen as romantic in society. Which is why all her friends and family think he's great and expressing his romantic feelings.
This movie showed what it was like from the woman's perspective. That all his gestures make her uncomfortable, especially after she broke up with him clearly. The first half of the movie shows what it's like to a woman who meets what is like her dream guy that suddenly morphs into a nightmare. I found her perspective to be that she found the whole situation rediculous and kind of treated it initially like a bad dream.
This movie put in perspective that those behaviors shouldn't be dismissed. Framing it as a comedy allowed people to explore this topic without immediately turning away from it. I enjoyed watching Martha escape from a seemingly perfect guy to find her own happiness.
I kind of feel like I need to find this movie so I can yell at it.
Oh my God, it's like if Chuck Lorre wrote _Heathers_ and just focused on Veronica and JD!
"rancid pile of dicks"...my new favorite review quote ever!
I haven't seen this for forever, maybe just before she officially came out, but her sitcom was dropping enough hints that people were talking, I've still got a pretty vivid memory of how uncomfortable it was too watch.
Yeah, you're right, it might be a little enjoyable if interpreted as the horrors of a lesbian trapped in compulsory hetero-bullshit.
Ironically, people would probably find this movie funnier considering what we know about Ellen now.
*ALL ABOUT STEVE* is cut from the same cloth and its only worse b/c that's not a black comedy. The audience is expected to like Sandra Bullock's character even though she is a crazy stalker.
Wow, Nick Castle directed this? Did he direct it in character as Michael Myers?
where did you comme accross this
Wait, Pullman was in this movie the exact same time Independence Day came out... holy shit, I bet ID4 saved his ass that yeat
I love Ellen and Dean Stockwell. I dodged a bullet here!
Case in point why NOT To watch movies based on cast!
I have a cousin who will watch anything (and I mean anything) with actors in it she thinks are hot. I've seen her watch the worst movies ever to see five minutes of a guy she thinks is hot.
Ah, yes, the overwhelmingly loud trumpets of the nineties!
Gees, I just wanna give you a hug Alison. Bad movie! BAD! Look what you did!