Customer States Belt Pulley Noise
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- Customer states serpentine belt tensioner pulley is making noise. We need to quiet this customer's loud fan belt tensioner pulley. It's a simple trick to grease idler pulleys. Don't buy a new idler pulley for your car it's a waste of money. This mechanic trick saves you money! SUPPLIES BELOW ↓↓↓↓
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You could spray them out with brake clean but you are right a lil grease you’ll save yourself a shit load of time and hassle.
If it's your own go for it don't screw up the seal but a customer's. They get a knew one not my liability.. however my liberty 2.8 the fan bracket bearing was dry not doing to good one one super expensive.... but I figured out how to put a grease zerk in it now it gets a pump of grease when getting serviced
This seems, to me anyway, to be adding to list of unnecessary maintenance chores to delay the inevitable. A sealed bearing is not supposed to dry out if it's good working order. If the seal loses its ability to keep lube in and dirt out it is no longer in good working order and should be replaced. The less there is to service the shorter those regularly scheduled maintenance sessions will last. Remember your time and effort are a cost just as important as a parts cost. Would you really be saving any money by servicing a non serviceable part by design, when it could have been replaced the first time and ignored until or if it fails again.
Dude idler pulleys are like 10$
No. swap the bearing
I can see pressing the bearing out if it's a really new pulley that just happens to be noisy, but come on man the fucking pulley is like 12 bucks with a bearing. Doing shit like this is going to run customers off.
I had to replace the idler pulley on the supercharger belt system of my Buick, that little ass pulley I had to buy was $73 friggin bucks. Just the pulley
@@danielfinney4295 it was for a supercharger so of course it's going to be expensive.
And the fact once the seal is taken off if you get it back on probably going to work off at some point and only one of thse is a tension pulley the other two are idler pullys
@@danielfinney4295 lmao no shit it's a performance part....
@@danielfinney4295 please tell me it's a GNX
‘And I sold the customer ‘new’ pulleys’
Always worth a new bearing or pulley. Getting stuck or needing a tow is worth the cost of 10 of these....
A properly working bearing that needs grease and gets it in time is acceptable.
@@gaineyproductions2725 ONLY if a new part is unavailable.
@@jerrydawg4434 why? You really think if the bearing is only loud and not wobbly that the bearing is completely shot?
And how do you figure you’d get stuck or need a tow before hearing the bearing noise again?
Assuming you’re doing this to your own car, you’d be mindful enough to check them when they start making noise again.
@@Auto209 because I don't have time to waste. If I'm doing the work I'm doing it the best way possible. When I was young and poor I made due. Now I do it right. Your days obviously aren't as jamb packed as mine to wait for a tow truck or do the job again.
@@jerrydawg4434 who the fuck said there would be a tow truck to be waiting for? Look at you on your superior horse. As if we could know what anyone else’s life looks like. It’s a pulley bearing. It ain’t gonna stop the car from running before you realize it’s bad, IF it was to go bad. You saying that you’ll need a tow truck is skipping over the fact that you would have ignored a problem that you shouldn’t.
Just replace the bearings, they are loud cos they are foooked
Also looks to me like he used garden hose washers to fix it.
@@Allen-ch1cy huh?
Throw away generation.
You're being loud sooo later .
The cost to do this is probably close to a new idler.
Cheaper for the home mechanic, but a shop will charge you an hourly rate to do that that'll cost more than just buying a new one.
As a tech, the above statement is so true.
Time is money for everyone. A pulley is $20-40 and minutes to install, versus 30+ minutes to remove, open up, grease, seal back up, and install.
That's the whole idea, save money, do the work yourself. As long as you have some tools and a little mechanical ability. Unless you don't like getting your nails dirty.
@@wiz4020 You would have to start greasing it wayyy earlier to make it last. Once it makes noise, its too late to grease it!
Unless it’s a flat rate shop.
I’ve run into repairs like this. Usually doesn’t add cost the customer usually doesn’t have the money anyways. Better to do what you can to make sure they stay on the road as long as possible i say.
That’s a good tip if you’re in a bind but you can get the belt and “component kit” that comes with that idler and in many cases it’s cheaper than buying the belt and tensioner (with pulley) and no idler. Later ✌️
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It’s cheaper if you buy aftermarket. OEM is almost always better and more expensive because of that.
A squeaky pully is not what I'd call, in a bind... Why would you go thru the trouble of removing the old part, just to put it back on. Mark this as another "useless life hack"
Exactly
@@twofeetitis so not having to spend any cash on a part that could possibly just need some lubricant it useless... Would you consider a brush replacement on a alternator a useless hack because its still the same "used" alternator?
As a professional technician I am always tinkered with things like the pulley bearings. I tried this about 15 years ago and it worked amazing. Tried it again at least 10 more times throughout the years and every time the bearing failed within 30-100 miles after lubing them back up. I guess one saved bearing out of 11 is not too bad. What sucks is when a timing cover or component in the belt circuit gets ruined and then you are facing thousands of dollars in repairs for trying to save $20-$50... Definitely ruined some expensive stuff trying to save pulleys on those 10 more that I tried to lube and made worse instead.
I would never use this method on timing components. That's a bad idea.
I think your problem is you use too much grease. Too much grease in a ball bearing can cause it to fail because it has to push the grease out of the way of the balls.
@@MattsShop But but but but, the video shows a serpentine belt pulley that came from the front of a timing cover that is being repacked with grease. I own 5 vehicles and every one of them has the pulley route bolted to the timing cover and almost every car I work on Monday through Friday the last 20 years of my life has had the pulleys bolted to the timing cover..
@@jtbuilds9176 I think y'all misunderstood each other. He's talking about pulley on the serpentine drive and you're talking about the pulley failing and cutting a hole in the timing cover. I don't think he understood that's what you meant
The one thing old heads and experience has taught me is to never lubricate bearing that are going out, with any kind of lubricant, your better off just leaving it until you can properly fix it.
@@invisible.spectra5809 Being a master tech of about 20 years now I am again here to say this hack is literally that, a hack job and will cost more in the long run.
Just find the correct bearing and press the old one out and press in the new one and you're good to go except the plastic idlers that have the bearings molded in
That’s what I do, most are a 6000 series bearing anyway.
Don't do this unless you can't afford to buy bearings this is at best a short-term fix. If the bearing can be pressed or driven out it can be matched and just the bearing replaced. If the pulley is plastic I recommend replacing the assembly, as the plastic can be gouged or split when you try to press the old one out. 37 years as a automotive mechanic has shown me you don't want to take chances with this. Failure of a pulley and the subsequent damage to the accessory drive when the belt is thrown is far more expensive than the bearings.
Yep. Bearings are designed to ... bear the brunt of the wear. Failing to replace the wearing part when it's showing signs of wear is a damn amateur mistake.
can i put expensive skateboard bearings? like bones ceramic
I’m just going to buy a new one. I don’t want to get out on the road in the middle of nowhere and the bearing seize up!!
Yep... Don't pay attention to the doorknobs on RUclips.
I had that happen in yellowstone. When the belt came off it cut the pig tail wire to the AC compressor right through the plug flush with the caseing. Well it was a 1994 Chevey at that point I was done putting money in it and no AC ment bye bye truck.
This is a great way to do the job twice.
Re replace the centre bearing and they are like $2 lol
Or do that!
Truth. A noisy bearing is an unhappy one. Regreasing is okay in a pinch, but you have to flag it for future issues. I've done this in late hours, shops are closed, and a buddy needs his ride in the morning.
$2 for a no-name Chinese one. Find a good quality bearing for a few bucks more if you want it to last.
@@bigpjohnson SKF never had a come back because of the bearings in over a decade.
@@BigBoyNowYT skf bearings are incredible
I've done that you can also knock the bearing out and replace it for less than half the price of a new pulley
Correct far better than trusting a knackered old bearing.
👍👍I’ve done that actually.
Or just swap the bearing it's a common bearing used in pool motors it's a 6203d bearing. It's like 3 many 4 bucks
If it's already making noise, the only thing im doing with the bearing is replacing it.
Totally right, if a bearing is making noise then it's screwed already. More grease may keep it quiet for a little while but it's living on borrowed time.
new pulleys are like $7 to $20 each?? on Rockauto, why bother?
Good idea when doing PM to just clean & grease them and check belt wear. Spin water pump, etc to make sure no issues. If it’s making noise I would just replace though. Also would use white lithium grease not red& tacky.
I used to do the same with skateboard wheel bearings when I was younger lol
If the bearing is wobbly you can also find the same bearing for cheap, knock the old one out and replace it
You're a smart man
This is why I ran ABEC 5 bearings in my old Tony Hawk. Hoover NSK...yeah they were 125 bucks but they are still on the road 35 years later and have survived a few dozen decks across several people. Sealed bearings should never ever require maintenance if they are quality. Mine came from Germany..not China
@@netrioter I loved the old Lucky ABEC-7 bearings. Now I have Red ABEC-5 and it's just as good I feel. Always on the look out for great skateboard bearings.
@@ThatGuy-vi8chBones Reds Supers
20 bucks for a new one and I don't have to mess with it seems wasteful to fix something that is disposable
You don’t even know how to take the seal off bro...
I'm shouting at the screen nnnnnooooooooo. I have done this with rc bearings(hobby grade, not Wal-Mart shit), and thats fibe because it's a rc truck. I have to count on my ride to get me and my son places, the peace of mind is worth 20 bucks
Biggest scam mechanic ever. Even buying the best fucking bearing possible, its like $10 with shipping. Unless you did this for free, you are actually scamming people out of their money.
That bearing is making noise because it has FAILED. Parts that are rubbing against each other for 80k miles tend to do that. That grease will last 6 months tops before the issue comes back and that bearing may even leave someone stranded when it continues to fail. For $10 fucking dollars you could have replaced it with a new part that will last outlast that entire vehicle.
Never scammed anyone my whole life bud.
Looks like an LS engine 🤔
Sure is. I could tell by:
1. Water pump look and placement
2. Mention of separate tensioner for AC Compressor
Seems like over handling to me. I'm not top shelf when it comes to mechanic work, but from my experience, if you have issues with a bearing not doing what bearings are designed to do... Replace it.
Besides, what's that thing cost? $20?
Less than 20.
I agree, but regreasing works in a bind with no problems, just change soon
If the bearing is making noise and is dry. It's junk. No amount of grease will save it. Plus, if the pulley has been in service let's just say 100k miles It's probably worn out and junk also. Just change the whole damn pulley. There not that expensive and it's cheap Maintenance compared to calling a tow truck.
Lubing up a bad bearing with grease will make it feel new or almost new. If it was making noise, it's highly likely there are small surface scars, and it will get noisy and/or fail rapidly. Save a few bucks but have to redo the work again soon? Not worth it to me.
Better than being on the side of the road waiting for large marge.
If they are loud, they are on the verge of being bad, if they aren't already. If they are already off, replace them.
Let’s not be so cheap. New bearing is a couple bucks. Replace the bearing. Good shape is a relative term
NO. Be cheap it is your friend.
Tip: pry from the inner lip, if you damage the seal grease will stay inside.
Yup beat me to it!!
Lmao come on bro , the pulley is what 15-20 bucks … Jesus
Free sounds better
Great way to have a pulley lock up and break your new belt👌🏻
YEA RIGHT!
Everyone likes being cheap until it leaves them stranded on the side of the road.
Replace it and be done with it
Always cut towards yourself.
Next you’ll tell us to flip the serpentine belt over to get more miles out of the other unused side lol.
Life hack!
I always do that first because they don't put enough grease in there to begin with. 😊
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You can put a new bearing in them
What a waste of time and "maintenance"...and how about the pitting that occurs on the needle bearings after they've been spinning dry for days...grease won't fix that 🤦smh...what NEWB advice.
Where is your shop located? I would like to stay a million miles away. These things are so cheap it's essentially nothing. You spend much more a week on just fuel. These things are never more than like 15 bucks, and usually cheaper than that. That bearing was dry and spinning at thousands of rpms under tension. Just change it there is probably so much wear if you took the bearing apart.
Great, 2.000km more until the bearing dies and you can do it all over again.
Have this behind me. I change the pulleys because they are the cheapest part of the whole process. 20-40€ depending on the pulley. At least for Audi
"tricks" new word for poor I guess
This might be overkill on servicing bearings but I like to wash it them in an ultrasonic cleaner, blast out the water and any excessive grease with an air compresser, rinse in wd40, and blast away any residual wd40 with the air compressor. This will give a virgin bearing but at least when packing grease, you won't have dirt and old grease contaminating the new bearing. Good video and great info!👍
Get a roll of 12 online of good quality bearings from Germany it’s better then what you could buy new an I’ve gotten way more life out of them. Was 1/5th the price to don’t need much more then a hammer socket and vice. Edit Take one of the pulleys off to get the part number.
I disagree. The guy who owned my car before me did that. Replaced the timing belt at 100,000k but not the idler and tensioner pulleys. 40,000km later the tensioner failed on me and bent 2 valves.
Hack job. Once a bearing starts making noise metal damage has begun, and adding grease does not remove the damage. Also way too much grease added.
In a tiny high speed sealed bearing like that, the excess grease has no where to go and so it overheats the bearing and breaks the grease down.
Also if you mix two different types of grease it causes bad chemical reactions that will cause ruin.
So randomly stuffing grease into noisy bearings is just setting you up for a catastrophic failure, and while it might make it quieter for a while, it probably won't actually extend the life by very much, and gives you a false sense of security because it's not making noise, meanwhile the grease is filled with metal particles from the wearing bearing and acting like grinding compound, until it wears badly enough it falls off and strands you, and possibly destroys your timing cover at the same time.
And remember, if you spend the $20 on a new idler, it will probably last another 10 years, where this might last a few days weeks or months, and is just a bad investment in time and labor.
If I caught a mechanic doing this to my vehicle, I would demand a refund and take it to a competent mechanic.
And I say this a a diesel/industrial mechanic with training lubrication technology, and a lot of experience with proper bearing lubrication in various situations.
The question is, how did you charge him? Did you charge him extra labor, if so how much? Seems scamish imo. New pulleys come in component kits, usually much cheaper than buying the individual components by themselves.
This is stupid. Idler pulleys and tensioner pulleys aren’t that expensive. Sealed bearings are not meant to be taken apart. Even though the bearings don’t look worn, they are, which is why they are making noise. Putting grease in may help for a little bit but it’s eventually going to cease and you’ll be stuck. Just buy a new pulley
It's a cheapo Chinese bearing, that's why it's got noisy, that's why the pulleys are so cheap. The seals don't work properly and the steel is poor quality. Knock the bearing out and stick a decent name brand one in and it'll outlast the car, this one will be back in 6 months
Just replace the damn bearing dude. It’s been ran dry. It’s toast. Don’t be a cheapskate. Hell, bearings ARE cheap.
Honestly man for the price of those pulleys, why don't you just buy a new one? You call it complete waste of money, I call that a complete waste of your time (x2). The first time doing this bandaid and the second time after your stranded on the side of the road and getting a ride to the auto parts store to buy a new one.
Never regrease bearings!
If they get loud its because of dirt thats in the grove. The balls drive the dirt in the metal and cause damage after time. Just like sandpaper roughing down the material. After time this causes play and ultimatly failure.
I'm gonna go through all of the trouble of taking my belt drive apart to replace something like a water pump and then save 10 bucks by not replacing a idler pulley because I want to press a new bearing in place instead thus putting the entire system at risk.
Yes.
The pulleys are metal and it takes about 2 minutes to do with new high quality bearings.
Been doing it for years with ill effects. Wont work with plastic ones
@@jjjsmith2497 That's a lot of extra effort to save literally a few bucks at the cost of peace of mind.
@@aland7236
Not if your out in the middle of nowhere.
Very easy to do
Time is money. This Costs you time AND money to go back in and replace this thing the second time after it fails. Do it right the first time and you won’t have a problem.
I tried to do that for my Mercedes, they still squeaked. I replaced one at a time. One left to replace, and it still squeaks. Hopefully when I replace that last one, it finally quits squeaking.
Just replace the bearing. It's not worth the risk, at least for me, and if it's making noise the damage is done. Definitely do not do this on timing belt idlers and tensioners. If you're in that deep do it right.
Why waste your time just replace the bearing. You can get two or three for like 10 bucks on Amazon and it’ll be repacking the old one
Well if its dry that means the grease has come out and dirt will get in and grind down the bearings until it wobbles itself off and fucks something more expensive up.
The dumbest thing ever. Probably only applys to 5% of people. Easier to just replace the bearing.
One of the dumbest videos I’ve seen this week, don’t do this, always replace failing bearings.
It’s only a matter of time before that bearing fails because of lack of lubrication. Just change the pulley or put a new bearing in.
There no pressure on the bearing so of course it’s going to feel fine. And also because you took the bearing seal off it’s probably not going to seat properly and let more dirt and water in.
Very foolish. When you put grease to a bearing you increase friction from shearing forces and the temp goes up. A sealed bearing should not need grease.
So it may work. To me it’s not worth the risk of a car being in the shop in 3 weeks again. Kinda a recipe for unsatisfied customers
Probably he replaced the pump but the noise is still there, so he covered his ass by greasing the bearings so customer will be Happpppy 😃
Notice how he didn’t show taking the bearing out and pressing it back in. You just can’t put grease in the exposed side that he shows.
If I'm going to do all that work to remove the tensioner I'm just gonna go ahead and replace it...😐
LS. Rebuild don't replace. Rebuild lasts longer than cheap China replacement
Or better, press out the bearing, go to NAPA, and buy a new bearing for under $10.00
to be fair it's hardly an extra price to just replace it, dunno about you but i'd be able to put the worn bearing to use anyway
That's because they're cheap as fuck and unless you're a broke ass... You can just replace em.
Those bearings are dirt cheap, let alone those pulleys. Why on earth would you go through all that trouble?
mines literally locked up chewed up the belt
unbolted itself and burned a hole in the timing belt cover
It slung the grease out and already damaged the rollers, you can only bandaid a $15 part so many times
Ha i tried this a few times within a month each time it went back to loud, just buy a new one save yourself some time
Maybe if it last longer than a new one because the grease is better but I don't think that would be the case in most situations
This is just buying time, while you're doing it already just replace it
4.9 ford sixes. Get a wider steel pulley that is the same diameter. No more thrown belts ever
Replace the bearings don’t open the dust cover and add grease that seal is not going to keep dirt out and grease in…
You can literally still hear the bearings grinding when you demo spin it. Smh
If it was dry the damage has already been done just replace he bearing for 6 bucks
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Who the hell want to do all that for a few bucks? Pulleys are no where near expensive.
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Well how is it for new ones? If its like 20 bucks, then who cares, buy a new one.
You try to save the customer a little money and expect a comeback. Not worth it.
I couldn't tell if you were that guy that purposely gives TERRIBLE or False information for laughs at first. If your stuck in the dessert and this is your only hope than, maybe yeah. But those are Gen3 LS truck pullies, the cheapest MOST COMMON of parts. Just buy new ones. NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE THIER CAR TO A MECHANIC THAT REGREASES PULLIE BEARINGS.
Geez dude chill. It's just a demonstration. How do you know I even left that pulley on there. I'm not stupid. Take a deep breath.
If you were a skateboarder as a kid you probably already knew this trick ;)
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Just replace the bearings. It's easy and bearings are dirt cheap.
Thanks Matt, what is the bearing #? Regrease or replace is the quick inexpensive fix. Nice to see someone actually rebuilding something instead of spending someone else’s money!
I am not sure what the bearing number is. It probably has a number stamped on it.
So much waste in the world. It’s good to see people using their head
I prefer electric
Good luck but it wont last long and that bearings going to implode
The noise comes from pitted bearings. Not lack of grease
Yea just buy a new ones if ur going to go thru all that work!!!
Go to Napa and match the bearing no need to change the actual pully
Heck yea it works sometimes it can get you by for a long time then sometimes its just temporary fix depends also I drill and tap for grease fittings on my sealed wheel bearings that I had been replacing once a year or so after I did that I grease them about every 3 months or so and I have not had to replace them like that anymore I works
The adding grease fittings trick is a good one!
Y waist time u took it of put new 1 on
Free
I have to do this because no one makes parts for my car anymore, well nothing of quality anymore. Not buying Chinese parts made by 8 year olds.
THANK YOU!
Literally £3 worth of bearing and 5 mins on a press
You didn't put the pulley back on so we can see half a story has never been told you just wasted 30 seconds of my life and I will never ever get back again good day sir lol
Wtf??? Just grease your bearings or replace them. It's just a tip. Don't like it? Don't do it.