To be honest if it continued for a few more seasons I would have possibly viewed it as my favourite.. I felt like it needed a spoonful more of Rodney a whole cup of John shepherd and a healthy dose of O'Neil added to the mix but as a standalone series it held up well and didn't really require much knowledge of SG1 or SG Atlantis for it to work.. Plus the whole way how they recruited eli was awesome because government and military bodies/groups actually do, do these types of things.. There was one a few years ago called cicada 3301 or summit and rumour has it that it was a codebreaker recruitment process setup by the mossad of Israel and the cia of America.. Obviously its the sort of thing that to even get that info from it you have to work a bit of the riddle stuff out and even still it's sketchy and like you can't find out if it was a recruitment thing or just an elaborate hoax by someone who is quite a thinker.. End of long rant..lol
The idea was cool, but the characters interactions was far from what Star Gate was. The playfulness and scientific mystic of discovering new things got replaced by dark moody interactions between characters. I didn't like that. But i may watch it again, maybe would get a new perspective after all this years.
and i'm convinced if it comes out now that they will make it another woke broke joke and destroy the series for most fans. and i'm almost certain this will happen as Amazon purchased the rights to MGM, so yeah we might get another stargate, but it will likely be another woke broke joke.
@@CNERail Well I guess a whole lot of us need to grow up to don't we, because I'm not the only person who feels this way, there are hundreds of thousands of fans out there who have the same sentiments as I do about this.
@@Selahhhhhhhhhhh i wouldn't be surprised if they pull what Seth MacFarlane pulled on his Orville show, except they won't be joking like he was. the Orville was a comedy show in the politics of the writer so that was to be expected of Seth. the thing is, i want this show to happen, but i don't want it to be destroyed by them making it woke trash, and i hope they want a good return on their investment, but obviously this isn't just about Stargate, they will have access to the entire library of MGM, which means more rights to more shows will be theirs to meddle with.
Eli and the crew awaken in a new galaxy for another season of universe that ended when you found out his stasis unit never functioned. He didn't even realize he was a replicator.
@@meatsockmike2103 well that's a dumb ending lol. but then again so was the stupid story they created for the comics. but i got just as crazy of an ending not a very serious answer just jumping on the theme of dumb endings even though it kind of makes sense lol. so they all decide to kill themselves while using the communication stones, meanwhile while back on earth the subjects who were using the stones all start to experience the alternate personalities from the Destiny crew counterparts in the same body, then they use Asgard tech to clone themselves into new bodies and transfer their conscious minds into these new bodies. effectively saving everyone on the Destiny crew, the bodies may not be their real bodies but at least they are all back home and survived the journey. the end.
@@WithNoSkills The problem is the first season already killed it. It bled so many viewers in that first season, personally the only reason I even finished the first season was because I purchased it on DVD and I felt like I should atleast watch all of what I paid for. Like people try to justify it by saying the first season of SG1 was rough too, but it wasn't *that* rough.
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I'm not sure it's accurate to say the planet was powered by naquadria it was probably more than likely that other power source drop the r, not to mention this planet was set up by the Alteran and how this gate was tied to the planet.
I like the word "freakin" instead of making babies. The downside of SGU? Well, Rush seemed self-centered. and there were conflicts without exposing his good intentions/motivation at the time. SG-1 was all likable characters. I too wish SG-1 & SGU would return.
This was the first show I was ever seriously hooked on that got cancelled early. I still haven't re-watched it because I know I'll never get to finish it. Starting to get some hope for a new Stargate show though with Amazon buying MGM.. Let's hope we get some closure.
I agree, I enjoyed SGU, even though it started with the issues between the crew, however I do think they dwelled a little too long on that conflict between the crew members. I didn't much like the people using the communication stones to have sex in other people's bodies thing either. However the things I did enjoy about the series was the mission that Destiny was sent on and the story that explained the extended history of the Alteran and I enjoyed seeing an earlier version of their technology, it made the universe of the series feel a little bit bigger and less of an empty shell they had little to no explanation of what happened within their history. When the comics came out, I didn't like the story, the sad thing is I've seen people write better FanFictions then what that comic ended up being. I'm a novice writer myself who has engaged in several variations of this ending that made more sense than the comic and we're a lot more compelling because I extended the story rather than put it to rest as they did. I personally love a story that has a very good wealth of in-depth details that expand into more details, especially when it comes to the universe of Stargate. There are so many directions a story can go and so many possibilities.
Universe is my second favourite series just behind SG1 manly because the tone of the show is appropriate to the situation they are in stranded far away from home with little to no chance of getting back. This is why I think this is superior to Atlantis's first season, they were in a similar situation and it just bugs me how they don't take it seriously most of the time
Outside of the terrible personalities when it came to the conflict between the crew of SGU, though it was realistic for them to have this given the actions of Rush, it did kind of piss me off as a viewer that they extended that conflict into season 2. So much of the story could have been improved on given this detail of the story being mended at least after episode 10 of SGU. Some other stuff bothered me when it came down to using the communication stones to have sex with random people's bodies, sure it's an interesting science fiction story, but it wasn't necessary to add into the show. There were a few other things that I wish that they used more often when it came down to technologies that they procured in the previous shows that they could have taken advantage of and used in this series, one example that I can point to was a device that SG-1 came across that allowed users to download information into a user's consciousness and that information could be used to achieve their goals further, but of course the show basically pretended like these ideas didn't exist, however they did use the stones to get a very experienced doctor to use the stones and go over there and help someone in the medical field, so it's entirely possible they could have used this other technology to boost her skills and knowledge prior to her using the stones to help in the medical field onboard destiny. Same thing when it comes down to ancient knowledge within the Atlantean database on Atlantis or the knowledge that Daniel had when it came to the overall language and understanding of the people. Now going back to the story of Destiny, I enjoyed the mystery in this series that came back to it when it came down to Destiny's mission and the history of the ancients, I enjoyed learning about the story when it came down to the ships that attacked the destiny and what was going on there was still a mystery but we were slowly figuring it out as the show went on. Yes this was a very different series then the others as it was more gritty and more about survival and getting over their hardships and conflicts between each other. I enjoyed the realism aspects when it came down to certain decisions with the crew, I enjoyed the exploration into the ancient Tech that was on board that ship learning about the first version of the Stargates as well as other Tech and how they were fairly limited to their second and third gen counterparts. The chair room for example was basically the first version of repository of knowledge but it also had other characteristics like it had a interface that would work with your own memories as we saw dr. rush use when he was trying to figure out the master code into unlocking the destinies Bridge, but there was obviously more to that chair then what meets the eye, the chair also had the capability to upload an entire person's Consciousness into the ship's Mainframe which allowed that person to take control of the ship in some manner which I was sad about when they moved that girl gin out of that portion of the ship to another part where she had no access to the ship's systems and could not interact with any of the crew in any way. I was sad when Colonel Young pulled that first guy out of the chair during the transfer, as that guy suffered pretty much the entire show after that fact was completely paralyzed the entire time until he gained enough strength to bypass what was going wrong with his body, he basically sacrificed himself to fix what was going on at that point in time, I still wonder if his Consciousness is within the Mainframe somewhere. And of course just like on Atlantis, they only got to discover so much of the entirety of the ship and only occupied a very small section of the entire ship, and I often wonder what other wonderous things could exist to help aid them on their Journey if they got access to these other parts of the ship. SGU provided enough material and that first and second season to speculate on a various number of things about the destiny and its mission when it came to that intelligent being that could create entire solar systems and created one for them especially, in the series The only being that we know of that can be capable of such things would be the ascended beings, and it is understood in the series that there are other planes of existence higher than others which suggests that there are even beings that are much more powerful than even that of the Ori. I mean what if entire galaxies are created by these beings? And they make up the universe using their powers, ascended beings are not all seeing or all-knowing, they just have a much greater understanding of the universe which suggests that it's entirely possible that there are other beings out there higher status then they are. I believe that this is what Destiny's mission was to uncover about this being that can create worlds and stars of entire galaxies. It may sound like I'm talking about God here, but worlds without number come to mind when thinking of these beings, and I believe that this being was new at this power and it couldn't figure out every detail and how to make it work properly as the people ended up dying on that planet however the information was provided to the destinies doctor Tamara through a dream that she had and within that dream she was given a proof to know that it was real. And then later on in the series when they explored this information when the people returned to the ship in a brand-spanking-new shuttle with no clue how it existed along with the people who died on that planet originally, as they ended up dying anyway shortly after they boarded destiny, and that's what I meant when I said this particular being was new at this newfound ability as it tried to save these people but they died anyway.
"Okay, we built our hospital ship, and now we will activate it and fly to other worlds, and bring them much needed medicine. I hearby christen thee, the NX-911, The Bubonic!"
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Without a doubt, there were several elements of this premise that were great for a story. Perhaps even a five part story arc. But to base an entire series off of a problem that could could not be solved made for a sense of dread and futility that sucked the joy out of what once was the Stargate experience. Prior to this, the Stargate franchise taught us nothing if not this: With very few exceptions, ...Civilians, politicians, and non-SGC military cause nothing but problems. So SGU taught me two things. 1. When you have success… Never change the recipe. 2. When I hear the words Lucian Alliance,… I change the channel.
Although the outlook was grim for those on board Destiny, and they faced so many epic hurdles... I never believed the problem could not be solved, or that there was no hope! SGU certainly did not stuck the joy out of the stargate franchise for me at all! I'm sorry to hear it did that for you!
@@DJJonPattrsn22 It’s just that I interpreted the goal to be getting home to Earth. Especially since some of these people didn’t even sign on for this mission. Being galaxies away, there was almost no hope at all. It was forever before they even gained any control of the ship. With Star Trek Voyager, at least they were heading in the right direction most of the time. SGU just felt so grim.… so hopeless from the very beginning. Prior to SGU, Stargate had always represented perseverance. The ability to overcome the odds and achieve the goals. When those goals were just survival,… It lost some thing for me.
Fun fact: a BC-304 can cover the whole distance from Earth to Destiny in just two years. Destiny is a *very* old and *very* slow ship. If they sent a rescue ship as soon as they got there, they would long be home by now.
@@mikecrownshaw1646 I wonder how many ZPM's that would deplete?! LOL. And wasn't there also an additional issue with the wormhole drive burning out or something? Plus, it just seems more than a bit excessively risky & problematic trying to fly an entire city all the way to the other side of the entire universe...! I mean, galaxies are already massively huge; a distance that at the beginning of SG1 would've taken the Goa'uld over a year (at least) to cross in their fastest vessels...
@@DJJonPattrsn22 The BC-304 Daedalus class is the strongest spacecraft made by the Tau'ri (we humans of the planet earth) with the help of asgard and ancient technology.
SGU was the only Stargate series I just could never get into... And I REALLY tried! Didn't even finish the first season, and didn't even know it was canceled until MUCH later.
SGU was very different from the rest of the franchise in certain ways. It certainly couldn't be for everyone... It is a shame you weren't able to get into it. The second season really had some phenomenal stories, and they were just getting started. Maybe one day you should consider giving it another chance. Perhaps you would find that things have changed & you are able to appreciate it despite its differences...?
@@jimyowell850 Awesome! I hope you enjoy it if you do... Its obviously never going to be like the first two series. But there is actually still some humor & comic relief on SGU. For me, one of the things I love that stands out most about SGU is the sound track. I know there were many complaints about the unlikable characters and how poorly they got along. However, the pay off is witnessing the process of them getting to know each other and learning to communicate & work together, and even trust each other to a large degree. There's no doubt that these characters have more visible flaws than our heroes from the prior series, but they are also in much more difficult inescapable circumstances. But we do see many of them rise to the occasion & do amazing things. And while there are some real ass holes, some that never really change, that's life and that reflects reality and I actually appreciated how they were dealt with.
@@DJJonPattrsn22 Personally my issue is the shift towards character interactions that seemed more at home in a teen drama, we didn't need stories about who is sleeping with who and then people using stones to sleep with more people. I found getting through the first season to be a genuine chore and I imagine that's probably what killed it, it had just bled too many viewers during the first season that even if the second was amazing it was never going to survive.
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Correction: Did Danielle recrute him BEFORE his wife died. As Rush said in the episode that during the 2 years he was away she died so never got to see her death?
Yes, you're right there -- "Human" has some timey-wimey stuff in it that can be confusing. Rush was originally recruited during his wife's illness, and used it as a way to escape his emotions and wall himself in. But in the episode the Rush we see is the present-day Rush, who is ignoring his wife for different reasons (he's treating the experience as a vision, such that the other people in it are long gone and don't matter to what he is trying to accomplish now -- which is to unlock Destiny's master control code).
@@GateWorldDotNet ah yes. And if I recall it was because the density was trying tell him the answer was "46" and the code is based on genes. Meaning the death of his wife happened several months earlier than it actually happend.
Wow...that opening line really hit home just how good the SGC really was. They were only in operation for 10 years before they reached a technological level required to go to another galaxy. They made the perfect friends and the perfect discoveries that were needed. Let's see the N.I.D. do that...oh wait. They made enemies everywhere they went and were easily infiltrated by hostile forces.
On the one hand they should've kept that scene in from SGA with McKay an Zelenka speaking about the ninth chevron, given Rush even says in the pilot that they found the address in the archives of Atlantis.. but then there wasn't any sort of established setup for it in the same way that SG-1 teased the idea of Atlantis for over a year.. even if had just been an episode in S5 of SGA with some kind of side-plot involving the discovery of the address.. albeit Universe was still a great show, in my opinion..
I agree for sure -- there was every opportunity to drop a few vague clues. AFAIK the only one we got was in the Atlantis finale, where there is a reference to the Odyssey (IIRC) being unavailable to help because it was off on a super-secret mission. I think the writers have clarified that this was intended to be the hunt for a naquadria-rich planet (or perhaps, given the timing, supporting the build-out of the base).
I absolutely agree! I believe that if fans had been left to speculate about this open-ended mystery about the 9th chevron, I think it would have generated a lot more interest in the premise of the show. Quite possibly enough to keep more people interested despite the shift in tone... I think that was one of the biggest mistakes made early on; and I think it was a grave mistake, sadly....
@@DJJonPattrsn22 As i said earlier I think what killed it was the first season. There was definitely enough interest in Stargate at that time to maintain it if they had managed to hold onto the viewership, but they lost them pretty dramatically throughout season one.
I think there is work on a new Stargate series, if they do make it then they may mention or include a piece to reconcile the SG: Universe story line, i hope they do.
I enjoyed the cosmic horror of the show, like when the crew from the planet with the obelisk they left them on came back, finding out that they're all dead and that the people that came back were just copies had me on the floor from knowing how powerful those beings were that created them.
Everyone clearly did NOT hate SGU! In fact, the majority liked it (or came around), but those who rejected were just really loud, hateful and persistent about letting everyone know how much they hated it. Its ratings were actually only a little lower than many episodes of SG1 & Atlantis. But that wasn't the real reason SGU was cancelled anyway. It was because of bankruptcy...
@@DJJonPattrsn22 How dare people who loved a series talk about how the new series in it wasn't as good. The audacity! The fact is universe bled viewers in the first ten episodes and many people didn't come back for season 2 after giving it a whole season to prove itself. Let's not pretend it didn't have obvious flaws and people who stopped watching it didn't have valid reasons for disliking it.
It always seemed like a plot hole, that Hammond after the Odyssey received the Asgard updates was unable to protect the planet against the Lucian Aliance.
You missed out one key bit of information, that they tried to initially dial the address and it failed, they then found that the address could only be dialled from earth so they had to create a work around to trick the gate into thinking it was dialling the from earth. I loved the series and it sucks that it ended!
The issue here wasn't that the 9-chevron address could only be dialed from Earth (so the gate had to be tricked), but a bit more simple than that. Evidently Rush presumed that he needed to change the ninth symbol since he wasn't dialing from Earth; Eli points out that the address might in fact be location neutral, a fixed "code" that uses Earth's point of origin even from a different planet.
I thought SGU was a great show and it was a pity that it was cancelled, a missed opportunity imo. I also loved the idea that, when they found out the reason why the ancients built the ship [spoiler alert]... That they detected a signal encoded in the background radiation, essentially from start of the Big Bang! Now that was an original story arc right there, which could’ve led to many, many seasons. No doubt in time, once decoded they’d find out the signal read.... ”You’re in my spot”
_I'm confuse if the Asgard home world is in the Pegasus galaxy and lost the war with the replicators, then why haven't the replicators taken over the Pegasus galaxy before stargate Atlantis, I understand they were chasing the Asgards in the milky way galaxy, after they left Pegasus, but why was the Pegasus galaxy left unconquered until Atlantis team were discovered by the replicators, you would think the replicators would have gone after the wrath technology during or after after their war with the Asguards._
I assume you mean the Ancients (the Lanteans) here. The goal of the Replicators (the Asurans) was to survive, and to emulate their makers. Their base programming to attack the Wraith had been disabled. So they're not exactly the conquering type.
If you are, in fact, referring to the Asgard... They moved from the milky way to the Ida galaxy, that is where the replicators were chasing them and where they eventually meet their demise. Although we later learned that a small faction of the Asgard with a different ideology separated from them & went to Pegasus to continue their study of humans as a solution to their genetic problems. It was the wraith, not the replicators, that were a threat to the list tribe of the Asgard in Pegasus. The human replicators in Pegasus were not programmed with drive to conquer, assimilate & multiply like those encountered in the milky way and Ida.
4.35 , the manned by the wrong people, in the wrong place is half incorrect as in 'the wrong place' part as they had no idea as to where the 9 chevan on the Stargate went to start with ,,
Wouldn't it have been an 8 symbol address that they found in the Atlantis database? The 9th symbol would be point of origin and specific to the dialing gate (final solution to the dialing problem not withstanding).
Yes, but that makes it a 9 chevron address since you always have to account for that. Also actually if I recall correctly didn't the ninth chevron HAVE to be Earth's regardless of dialing location?
It would be interrsting to get an episode from tye bad guys point of veiw . .like the Wraith or the Nikki (forgot the name of the recurring antogonist species from SGU)
If I remember right and nine chevron addresses represent a serial number of gates and assuming there are 36 possible symbols in each chevron and repeats can occur there are 110 quadrillion 23 trillion 236 billion 390 million 784 stargate serial number possibilities. Likely the totality of the network including Lantian, Ori, and Agard models though as explained dialing a specific gate rather than figuring out an eight symbol address then dialing where you need to go would take a lot less power than a naquadrah planet. Couple ZPMs tops
Ok I know I am really late to this video but one thing about SGU that always felt off was the naquadria rich planet, was it not established that naquadria was an artificial element, that it required a certain type of radiation to turn natural naquada into naquadria, and the only reason it existed on Quinn's homeworld was due to experiments, and had the transformation of naquada to naquadria not been interrupted Quinn's world would have been destroyed, that would mean a naquadria rich planet is impossible doesn't it?
IIRC the distinction here is that a Goa'uld scientist artificially created naquadria on Jonas' planet, but that doesn't mean it is not also naturally occurring elsewhere. The Goa'uld might have found it in small quantities (even on Jonas' planet) and then decided to try and manufacture it artificially.
I never understood, why they didnt use the 3 ZPMs from Atlantis to reach the Destiny. The energy of 2 old ancient ships was enough to reach earth, so 3 ZPMs should be able to do it. There were also at least 4 dead ZPMs in the posession of the Stargate Center. Why not charge them with the planet energy or send them to the Destiny using Atlantis and charge them with Destinys solar power. Earth also has the knowladge of the Asgard with a hologram to explain their tech. Just use that and/or the Atlantis database to built a new energy source.
You got information wrong in this video. The Icarus base was outside the gate network and could not dial local addresses. The gate was special and could Only dial the 9 chevron address. They found the Ancient base on the planet after finding the information in the ancient database and the planets location / address. But the gate would not Connect so they flew there with a ship... They found the base and setup their own... But still the gate would not connect locally or galactically to pegasus. The planet core contained Naqu'da (not naquadria, which is the High power But extremely unstable product created by a goa'uld system lord.) When they came under attack Rush decided to dial the 9 chevron address to try and connect the wormhole, so they could escape. The Wormhole connected. But during the attack the geothermal power connection was damaged. So it overloaded while they were drawing power. Resulting in the catastrophic destruction of the base and planet. There was no choice about where they could dial the gate. It was designed to only dial one address. To its destination aboard the Destiny on the far edge of the universe.
@@GateWorldDotNet Episode 1 - 25 minutes and 10 seconds. Colonel David Telford says "But the ancients built 'the stargate' with 9 chevrons. It's got to go somewhere." 32:25 - Rush says "it took us 2 years to find this site. The properties are unique. If this bombardment continues, the Radioactive core is going to go critical." Please note some of my information is wrong. But also so is some of your information. I just rewatched the first two episodes to refresh my memory.
They could have dialed anywhere but things said in the show have been false before. Just like when Rush said destiny was launched 100s of thousands of years ago
The thing that made me think they could not dial earth or just gate to the planet... Was that they used a ship to get there... Either way using the gate to get there was much better than flying the ship the whole way with people... Rather than just using the gate. Which made me think the gate might be on an isolated network...
Something is wrong here i think... Nicolas was not contacted after his wife passed away, because he has regrets she passed away during his time invested trough working for stargate command on Icarus Project.
I never understood how the military personnel in SGU passed their pysch evluations, none of them imo where worthy to be let into the stargate program at all, its such an odd thing, usually its the civilian characters you either care little or not about in previous SG series but in SGU I really disliked ALL the military characters :/
@@darwinjina they are there for the expertise ans knowledge, looking back at SG1 you get some rather, haha wacky scientists, as long as they have the know how and are not a security risk via exposing the program its fine. Least thats my interpretation, as they are 'out of house' contractors so to speak, while we know as its established that there is a very extreme and thorough vetting for the military pesonell, going by that team in the early seasons of SG1 (one became a Tokra I forget their names) while the SGU military characters are a basket of nuts and fruitcakes.
@@regalgiant1597 fwiw, I was no fan of the SGU military, but I disliked Rush the most due to his decisions. (not that I liked the military ones either) Still would like to see some closure on it.
@@darwinjina Oh yes Rush was a dick, but the problem i had with Universe was that one of their military literally tried to leave Rush for dead, their lead and only scientist. Rush was questionable at times, but that was insane.
no one question how a bunch of ragtags piloting older gouald ships managed to scratch one of earth's most advanced battleships, even pushing them against the ropes?
IF the stargate really was to be made of Naquadriah we'd have the most Deadly and Destructive Hoop of all time Edit: *Sorry i was distracted so i missheard but still, DEATH HOOP!*
I always hoped they would dial out and zoom over there and find a earth like planet but like in an old 1960's movie everything is the same but writing is all backwards.
If Destiny's mission had been revealed early on, then hit us with the character drama stuff, this show would have worked. Instead, we were force-fed SGU: 90210 drama for season 1, then got the actual, interesting Destiny stuff in season 2. By the time Destiny's mission was revealed, I was rooting for character's to die just so they'd stop talking. Still, would love to know what the message was about in the cosmic background noise...hopefully not some lame time-loop BS that it was somehow Destiny's crew the whole time.
Agreed, they also could have just left the drama stuff out entirely. Like seriously dude, you're going to leave your best scientist for dead because he's a bit of an ass?
To be honest once you have access to Ancient tech of Atlantis why would you ever try to dial into a ship the Ancients decided themselves was not worth going back to
By the time of Twin Destinies I saw it had potential. I didn’t like the brutal treatment of civilians pressed into service or the Marine who had a chip on his shoulder.
@@HedgeHypnotist agreed. Read it myself. Hasn't even finished or been tied up yet. One thing I found ridiculous is the ancients on Destiny (which made no sense to me after the show) said the communications stones were a game or made for fun? Which is stupid. They were made to communication long distance. I'm guessing before the first Stargate was made. Also, I wonder if the milky way gates started off as Destiny gates but got replaced later on to the ones in SG-1.
It's too bad RUclips ruined Stargate with their Origins disaster. There's talk of bringing back Shanks for a true SG1 continuation series. Imagine if Amazon picked it up and threw some money at it.....
How can an Icarus type planet even exist. Jonas Quinn's planet almost blew up because of the naquadria vein almost reaching the core of the planet.(Season 7 episode 14)
Naquadria deposits appear to have been (either mostly or entirely) created by Goa'uld scientific experimentation long ago. Icarus-type planets are so hard to find because (a) they don't appear to be naturally occurring, and (b) they do have that tendency to blow up.
@@GateWorldDotNet Exactly, so the planet should not exist but there are not just one but at least two naquadria core planet that exist. And they were hoping that there was another Icarus type planet along destiny's route. The writers can not should not rewrite there own cannon. Sorry I've wanted to say that ever since the show came out.
It just explains why they are exceptionally rare. I'd have to go back and search the SGU transcripts, but it seems to me at some point they established (or at least theorized) that naquadria could possibly also occur naturally. But the changes of finding such a planet along Destiny's course -- yeah, I'd say statistically zero.
@@tylerdavis4621 "Exactly, so the planet should not exist" that's not what they said at all, it means they would be rare and probably fleeting. I'd also say there's a difference between a planet having a naquadria vein reach its core and a core being made of naquadria. Icarus type planets have naquadria cores, not normal planet cores so how they would interact with naquadria veins would be different.
The comment section is high. This was a terrible battle Star galáctica rip off and I wish we had used all the money for this one on another season of Atlantis
@@stevenyia2778 He's right. The first season was a chore to get through thanks to personal drama no one cared about forcing the actual universe as it were to take a backseat.
I really didn't like SGU. It's deviation from the normal tone and style of the SG series was only a small part of the problem. None of the characters were relatable or likeable. The fat guy with a "you are here" shirt was effectively an insult to the nerd fan base. The character back stories weren't fed gradually, but rather forced out so fast it was devoid of subtlety. The shaky cam was excessive, the plot resolutions were predictable, the character drama was excessive... I shouldn't complain forever, but I'll just say that it deserved to fail.
SGU sucked ass. The premise isolated the show too much from other guest actors. Can't beat the simple 1 hour "one and done" format of SG1 and SGA. Throw in a compelling nemesis with a few story ARC's and it wins every time. Keep the emotional shit for other failed series like Battle Star Galactica. lol.
How the Lucian Alliance were able to destroy the Icarus base with its shields and defensive weapons and not get destroyed by the USS Hammond with its beam weapons and Asgard shields not to mention the ability to beam nukes is not believable .. The LA only had Goa'uld ships .. Not even Ori ships could survive the beam weapons
yeah that's what pisses me off with Snargate writing, they are never consistent and trip over their own feet too many times..1 battle cruiser would have been more than enough for a couple of gould motherships, Nevermind they're little ships
It seems like the simple explanation to have it work would be if the LA snuck one ship around with a payload to set the planet off given its unstable while they sent a small force to distract them. They wouldn't be winning by mysteriously overwhelming things, they'd win by using a pretty basic tactic this way.
SGU started out slow but with so many possibilities. By the time it ended I was completely hooked. I really hope they bring it back.
they will not
@@fallg649 sad but true
Not going to happen. Maybe a sequel movie or sequel series.
It's like Jericho on CBS the story is not finished & don't forget Terra Nova.
I watched the show for the first time 2 months ago, finished season 10 about a week or so ago. I agree with this statement lol.
It was a great premise for a Stargate series. It's such a shame that it never got picked back up. It was becoming my favorite Stargate series.
it has aged really well
To be honest if it continued for a few more seasons I would have possibly viewed it as my favourite.. I felt like it needed a spoonful more of Rodney a whole cup of John shepherd and a healthy dose of O'Neil added to the mix but as a standalone series it held up well and didn't really require much knowledge of SG1 or SG Atlantis for it to work.. Plus the whole way how they recruited eli was awesome because government and military bodies/groups actually do, do these types of things.. There was one a few years ago called cicada 3301 or summit and rumour has it that it was a codebreaker recruitment process setup by the mossad of Israel and the cia of America.. Obviously its the sort of thing that to even get that info from it you have to work a bit of the riddle stuff out and even still it's sketchy and like you can't find out if it was a recruitment thing or just an elaborate hoax by someone who is quite a thinker..
End of long rant..lol
Same. It started as pretty much everyone's worst series, and but for those that stuck through season 2, it became our favorite
The idea was cool, but the characters interactions was far from what Star Gate was. The playfulness and scientific mystic of discovering new things got replaced by dark moody interactions between characters. I didn't like that. But i may watch it again, maybe would get a new perspective after all this years.
S1 was so bad I couldnt continue
I am absolutely convinced the if SGU came out now it would easily get to 5 or 6 seasons, it was ahead of its time
and i'm convinced if it comes out now that they will make it another woke broke joke and destroy the series for most fans.
and i'm almost certain this will happen as Amazon purchased the rights to MGM, so yeah we might get another stargate, but it will likely be another woke broke joke.
@@5226-p1e you need to grow up
@@CNERail
Well I guess a whole lot of us need to grow up to don't we, because I'm not the only person who feels this way, there are hundreds of thousands of fans out there who have the same sentiments as I do about this.
@@5226-p1e They'll make Jackson gay, turn Sam into a transgender. 🤣🤣🤣
@@Selahhhhhhhhhhh
i wouldn't be surprised if they pull what Seth MacFarlane pulled on his Orville show, except they won't be joking like he was.
the Orville was a comedy show in the politics of the writer so that was to be expected of Seth.
the thing is, i want this show to happen, but i don't want it to be destroyed by them making it woke trash, and i hope they want a good return on their investment, but obviously this isn't just about Stargate, they will have access to the entire library of MGM, which means more rights to more shows will be theirs to meddle with.
I really miss Universe. I was so disappointed when it was cancelled.
First season was shit but second was better and I think third would have much better
Eli and the crew awaken in a new galaxy for another season of universe that ended when you found out his stasis unit never functioned. He didn't even realize he was a replicator.
Trump owns miss universe ;)
@@meatsockmike2103
well that's a dumb ending lol. but then again so was the stupid story they created for the comics.
but i got just as crazy of an ending not a very serious answer just jumping on the theme of dumb endings even though it kind of makes sense lol.
so they all decide to kill themselves while using the communication stones, meanwhile while back on earth the subjects who were using the stones all start to experience the alternate personalities from the Destiny crew counterparts in the same body, then they use Asgard tech to clone themselves into new bodies and transfer their conscious minds into these new bodies.
effectively saving everyone on the Destiny crew, the bodies may not be their real bodies but at least they are all back home and survived the journey.
the end.
@@WithNoSkills The problem is the first season already killed it. It bled so many viewers in that first season, personally the only reason I even finished the first season was because I purchased it on DVD and I felt like I should atleast watch all of what I paid for. Like people try to justify it by saying the first season of SG1 was rough too, but it wasn't *that* rough.
Geez, i love Universe. Such a brilliant show. And of the best show of all times.
The guy doing the voice for these omnipedias is perfect. Well done.
Thank you! Deadpan is something I can do a little better than some of the other videos. ;)
Best summation of this situation I’ve seen. Bravo.
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Great idea, Darren. Well done!
I'm not sure it's accurate to say the planet was powered by naquadria it was probably more than likely that other power source drop the r, not to mention this planet was set up by the Alteran and how this gate was tied to the planet.
This cancellation still really fucking hurts and what hurts more is it's never coming back.
I like the word "freakin" instead of making babies. The downside of SGU? Well, Rush seemed self-centered. and there were conflicts without exposing his good intentions/motivation at the time. SG-1 was all likable characters. I too wish SG-1 & SGU would return.
This was the first show I was ever seriously hooked on that got cancelled early. I still haven't re-watched it because I know I'll never get to finish it. Starting to get some hope for a new Stargate show though with Amazon buying MGM.. Let's hope we get some closure.
I agree, I enjoyed SGU, even though it started with the issues between the crew, however I do think they dwelled a little too long on that conflict between the crew members.
I didn't much like the people using the communication stones to have sex in other people's bodies thing either.
However the things I did enjoy about the series was the mission that Destiny was sent on and the story that explained the extended history of the Alteran and I enjoyed seeing an earlier version of their technology, it made the universe of the series feel a little bit bigger and less of an empty shell they had little to no explanation of what happened within their history.
When the comics came out, I didn't like the story, the sad thing is I've seen people write better FanFictions then what that comic ended up being.
I'm a novice writer myself who has engaged in several variations of this ending that made more sense than the comic and we're a lot more compelling because I extended the story rather than put it to rest as they did.
I personally love a story that has a very good wealth of in-depth details that expand into more details, especially when it comes to the universe of Stargate.
There are so many directions a story can go and so many possibilities.
Universe is my second favourite series just behind SG1 manly because the tone of the show is appropriate to the situation they are in stranded far away from home with little to no chance of getting back. This is why I think this is superior to Atlantis's first season, they were in a similar situation and it just bugs me how they don't take it seriously most of the time
I did not like Universe they just made everyone unlikable and selfish. I loved Atlantis
@@Caseshells123 agree, SGA was my favorite. SGU was them trying to be BSG. Moore’s brilliant reboot forever and unfortunately changed all SF.
Outside of the terrible personalities when it came to the conflict between the crew of SGU, though it was realistic for them to have this given the actions of Rush, it did kind of piss me off as a viewer that they extended that conflict into season 2.
So much of the story could have been improved on given this detail of the story being mended at least after episode 10 of SGU.
Some other stuff bothered me when it came down to using the communication stones to have sex with random people's bodies, sure it's an interesting science fiction story, but it wasn't necessary to add into the show.
There were a few other things that I wish that they used more often when it came down to technologies that they procured in the previous shows that they could have taken advantage of and used in this series, one example that I can point to was a device that SG-1 came across that allowed users to download information into a user's consciousness and that information could be used to achieve their goals further, but of course the show basically pretended like these ideas didn't exist, however they did use the stones to get a very experienced doctor to use the stones and go over there and help someone in the medical field, so it's entirely possible they could have used this other technology to boost her skills and knowledge prior to her using the stones to help in the medical field onboard destiny.
Same thing when it comes down to ancient knowledge within the Atlantean database on Atlantis or the knowledge that Daniel had when it came to the overall language and understanding of the people.
Now going back to the story of Destiny, I enjoyed the mystery in this series that came back to it when it came down to Destiny's mission and the history of the ancients, I enjoyed learning about the story when it came down to the ships that attacked the destiny and what was going on there was still a mystery but we were slowly figuring it out as the show went on.
Yes this was a very different series then the others as it was more gritty and more about survival and getting over their hardships and conflicts between each other.
I enjoyed the realism aspects when it came down to certain decisions with the crew, I enjoyed the exploration into the ancient Tech that was on board that ship learning about the first version of the Stargates as well as other Tech and how they were fairly limited to their second and third gen counterparts.
The chair room for example was basically the first version of repository of knowledge but it also had other characteristics like it had a interface that would work with your own memories as we saw dr. rush use when he was trying to figure out the master code into unlocking the destinies Bridge, but there was obviously more to that chair then what meets the eye, the chair also had the capability to upload an entire person's Consciousness into the ship's Mainframe which allowed that person to take control of the ship in some manner which I was sad about when they moved that girl gin out of that portion of the ship to another part where she had no access to the ship's systems and could not interact with any of the crew in any way.
I was sad when Colonel Young pulled that first guy out of the chair during the transfer, as that guy suffered pretty much the entire show after that fact was completely paralyzed the entire time until he gained enough strength to bypass what was going wrong with his body, he basically sacrificed himself to fix what was going on at that point in time, I still wonder if his Consciousness is within the Mainframe somewhere.
And of course just like on Atlantis, they only got to discover so much of the entirety of the ship and only occupied a very small section of the entire ship, and I often wonder what other wonderous things could exist to help aid them on their Journey if they got access to these other parts of the ship.
SGU provided enough material and that first and second season to speculate on a various number of things about the destiny and its mission when it came to that intelligent being that could create entire solar systems and created one for them especially, in the series The only being that we know of that can be capable of such things would be the ascended beings, and it is understood in the series that there are other planes of existence higher than others which suggests that there are even beings that are much more powerful than even that of the Ori.
I mean what if entire galaxies are created by these beings? And they make up the universe using their powers, ascended beings are not all seeing or all-knowing, they just have a much greater understanding of the universe which suggests that it's entirely possible that there are other beings out there higher status then they are.
I believe that this is what Destiny's mission was to uncover about this being that can create worlds and stars of entire galaxies.
It may sound like I'm talking about God here, but worlds without number come to mind when thinking of these beings, and I believe that this being was new at this power and it couldn't figure out every detail and how to make it work properly as the people ended up dying on that planet however the information was provided to the destinies doctor Tamara through a dream that she had and within that dream she was given a proof to know that it was real.
And then later on in the series when they explored this information when the people returned to the ship in a brand-spanking-new shuttle with no clue how it existed along with the people who died on that planet originally, as they ended up dying anyway shortly after they boarded destiny, and that's what I meant when I said this particular being was new at this newfound ability as it tried to save these people but they died anyway.
@@5226-p1e See that all had promise, but they had already chased off so many viewers with the early unnecessary drama that reeked of a teen drama.
I loved this Stargate series. It was different to SG-1 and that was fine with me. Such a shame it ended too soon.
My favorite of the stargate franchise. Its serious tone and truly epic underlining mystery completely hooked me from the start. Also, Rush.
Oooh, new series, I love it! I finished watching all of Stargate before there was any Stargate content on RUclips, now I can't wait to see more! :D
My favourite series ever! Such a cool show and tone within the Stargate universe/franchise. We NEED to see more of it!
SGU was way different as the previous shows, but i liked it... And i was so disappointed when they cancelled it...
"Hey, let's name our project after the ultimate dude to go too far ! Nothing wrong can happen !"
I'd like think O'Neill told them this but got overruled.
@@specialnewb9821 ya that definitely happened
"Okay, we built our hospital ship, and now we will activate it and fly to other worlds, and bring them much needed medicine. I hearby christen thee, the NX-911, The Bubonic!"
@@paulcoy9060 A shame The S.S. Syphilis was taken.
Bravo! Well done... This is fantastic!
Quote an accurate & well-written narrative, read by an appropriate narrator, presented with a montage of a very good selection of nicely edited clips.
Thank you! Looking forward to more!
Thank you so much!
Without a doubt, there were several elements of this premise that were great for a story. Perhaps even a five part story arc.
But to base an entire series off of a problem that could could not be solved made for a sense of dread and futility that sucked the joy out of what once was the Stargate experience.
Prior to this, the Stargate franchise taught us nothing if not this: With very few exceptions, ...Civilians, politicians, and non-SGC military cause nothing but problems.
So SGU taught me two things.
1. When you have success… Never change the recipe.
2. When I hear the words Lucian Alliance,… I change the channel.
Although the outlook was grim for those on board Destiny, and they faced so many epic hurdles... I never believed the problem could not be solved, or that there was no hope!
SGU certainly did not stuck the joy out of the stargate franchise for me at all! I'm sorry to hear it did that for you!
@@DJJonPattrsn22 It’s just that I interpreted the goal to be getting home to Earth. Especially since some of these people didn’t even sign on for this mission. Being galaxies away, there was almost no hope at all. It was forever before they even gained any control of the ship. With Star Trek Voyager, at least they were heading in the right direction most of the time. SGU just felt so grim.… so hopeless from the very beginning. Prior to SGU, Stargate had always represented perseverance. The ability to overcome the odds and achieve the goals. When those goals were just survival,… It lost some thing for me.
My favorite of the Stargate franchise.
We need the next season!!!
We need more!
Fun fact: a BC-304 can cover the whole distance from Earth to Destiny in just two years. Destiny is a *very* old and *very* slow ship. If they sent a rescue ship as soon as they got there, they would long be home by now.
Interesting. What is this calculation based upon?
@@GateWorldDotNet what about the wormhole drive ?
What is a BC-304, exactly? And how do you know how fast it can travel? Or how far away Destiny even is?
@@mikecrownshaw1646 I wonder how many ZPM's that would deplete?! LOL. And wasn't there also an additional issue with the wormhole drive burning out or something?
Plus, it just seems more than a bit excessively risky & problematic trying to fly an entire city all the way to the other side of the entire universe...!
I mean, galaxies are already massively huge; a distance that at the beginning of SG1 would've taken the Goa'uld over a year (at least) to cross in their fastest vessels...
@@DJJonPattrsn22 The BC-304 Daedalus class is the strongest spacecraft made by the Tau'ri (we humans of the planet earth) with the help of asgard and ancient technology.
One thing SGU didn't have that Sg-1 and Atlantis had and it was cancelled way too early........Blue Jello! The next series should have it.
I'm ded
SGU was the only Stargate series I just could never get into... And I REALLY tried!
Didn't even finish the first season, and didn't even know it was canceled until MUCH later.
SGU was very different from the rest of the franchise in certain ways. It certainly couldn't be for everyone...
It is a shame you weren't able to get into it. The second season really had some phenomenal stories, and they were just getting started.
Maybe one day you should consider giving it another chance. Perhaps you would find that things have changed & you are able to appreciate it despite its differences...?
@@DJJonPattrsn22 actually I've been considering trying it again. It's on Hulu.
@@jimyowell850 Awesome!
I hope you enjoy it if you do...
Its obviously never going to be like the first two series. But there is actually still some humor & comic relief on SGU.
For me, one of the things I love that stands out most about SGU is the sound track.
I know there were many complaints about the unlikable characters and how poorly they got along. However, the pay off is witnessing the process of them getting to know each other and learning to communicate & work together, and even trust each other to a large degree.
There's no doubt that these characters have more visible flaws than our heroes from the prior series, but they are also in much more difficult inescapable circumstances. But we do see many of them rise to the occasion & do amazing things.
And while there are some real ass holes, some that never really change, that's life and that reflects reality and I actually appreciated how they were dealt with.
@@DJJonPattrsn22 Personally my issue is the shift towards character interactions that seemed more at home in a teen drama, we didn't need stories about who is sleeping with who and then people using stones to sleep with more people. I found getting through the first season to be a genuine chore and I imagine that's probably what killed it, it had just bled too many viewers during the first season that even if the second was amazing it was never going to survive.
Fun stuff! It's great to see the fictional universe explained in a documentary style.
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Correction: Did Danielle recrute him BEFORE his wife died. As Rush said in the episode that during the 2 years he was away she died so never got to see her death?
Yes, you're right there -- "Human" has some timey-wimey stuff in it that can be confusing. Rush was originally recruited during his wife's illness, and used it as a way to escape his emotions and wall himself in. But in the episode the Rush we see is the present-day Rush, who is ignoring his wife for different reasons (he's treating the experience as a vision, such that the other people in it are long gone and don't matter to what he is trying to accomplish now -- which is to unlock Destiny's master control code).
@@GateWorldDotNet ah yes. And if I recall it was because the density was trying tell him the answer was "46" and the code is based on genes. Meaning the death of his wife happened several months earlier than it actually happend.
it's a shame it got axed and we wil probably newer get the resolution of the story. it would be nice if they made a novel or 2 at least
Wow...that opening line really hit home just how good the SGC really was. They were only in operation for 10 years before they reached a technological level required to go to another galaxy. They made the perfect friends and the perfect discoveries that were needed. Let's see the N.I.D. do that...oh wait. They made enemies everywhere they went and were easily infiltrated by hostile forces.
On the one hand they should've kept that scene in from SGA with McKay an Zelenka speaking about the ninth chevron, given Rush even says in the pilot that they found the address in the archives of Atlantis.. but then there wasn't any sort of established setup for it in the same way that SG-1 teased the idea of Atlantis for over a year.. even if had just been an episode in S5 of SGA with some kind of side-plot involving the discovery of the address.. albeit Universe was still a great show, in my opinion..
I agree for sure -- there was every opportunity to drop a few vague clues. AFAIK the only one we got was in the Atlantis finale, where there is a reference to the Odyssey (IIRC) being unavailable to help because it was off on a super-secret mission. I think the writers have clarified that this was intended to be the hunt for a naquadria-rich planet (or perhaps, given the timing, supporting the build-out of the base).
I absolutely agree!
I believe that if fans had been left to speculate about this open-ended mystery about the 9th chevron, I think it would have generated a lot more interest in the premise of the show. Quite possibly enough to keep more people interested despite the shift in tone...
I think that was one of the biggest mistakes made early on; and I think it was a grave mistake, sadly....
@@DJJonPattrsn22 As i said earlier I think what killed it was the first season. There was definitely enough interest in Stargate at that time to maintain it if they had managed to hold onto the viewership, but they lost them pretty dramatically throughout season one.
I think there is work on a new Stargate series, if they do make it then they may mention or include a piece to reconcile the SG: Universe story line, i hope they do.
I really wanted another season at least
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Great Show Missing SgU
Shame everyone hated on it, it had a great story. I would have taken more Atlantis over it, but I did enjoy it.
I enjoyed the cosmic horror of the show, like when the crew from the planet with the obelisk they left them on came back, finding out that they're all dead and that the people that came back were just copies had me on the floor from knowing how powerful those beings were that created them.
Everyone clearly did NOT hate SGU!
In fact, the majority liked it (or came around), but those who rejected were just really loud, hateful and persistent about letting everyone know how much they hated it.
Its ratings were actually only a little lower than many episodes of SG1 & Atlantis.
But that wasn't the real reason SGU was cancelled anyway. It was because of bankruptcy...
@@DJJonPattrsn22 How dare people who loved a series talk about how the new series in it wasn't as good. The audacity!
The fact is universe bled viewers in the first ten episodes and many people didn't come back for season 2 after giving it a whole season to prove itself. Let's not pretend it didn't have obvious flaws and people who stopped watching it didn't have valid reasons for disliking it.
I wish they would bring all Stargate series’s back
Rush is a fantastic actor
SGU was best SG series in my toughts, i really wish they could continue from where it was left...
So you didn't like Stargate much?
@@shadenox8164 i did like every stargate was it movies or tv series but SGU was best. Been fan since first Stargate movie did come out.
Lol. That's what happens when you slam a door in Jack O'neal's face. You get beamed up. 😂
They neeeeeeed to restart this and continue the story.
I'd be up for it if they actually restart it from the beginning, the concept has a lot of promise they squandered pretty early on.
No, not before the woke purge.
It always seemed like a plot hole, that Hammond after the Odyssey received the Asgard updates was unable to protect the planet against the Lucian Aliance.
Thank you.
I hate the fact it ended in a cliffhanger...
You missed out one key bit of information, that they tried to initially dial the address and it failed, they then found that the address could only be dialled from earth so they had to create a work around to trick the gate into thinking it was dialling the from earth. I loved the series and it sucks that it ended!
The issue here wasn't that the 9-chevron address could only be dialed from Earth (so the gate had to be tricked), but a bit more simple than that. Evidently Rush presumed that he needed to change the ninth symbol since he wasn't dialing from Earth; Eli points out that the address might in fact be location neutral, a fixed "code" that uses Earth's point of origin even from a different planet.
I thought SGU was a great show and it was a pity that it was cancelled, a missed opportunity imo.
I also loved the idea that, when they found out the reason why the ancients built the ship [spoiler alert]...
That they detected a signal encoded in the background radiation, essentially from start of the Big Bang! Now that was an original story arc right there, which could’ve led to many, many seasons.
No doubt in time, once decoded they’d find out the signal read....
”You’re in my spot”
"Hello sweetie"
_I'm confuse if the Asgard home world is in the Pegasus galaxy and lost the war with the replicators, then why haven't the replicators taken over the Pegasus galaxy before stargate Atlantis, I understand they were chasing the Asgards in the milky way galaxy, after they left Pegasus, but why was the Pegasus galaxy left unconquered until Atlantis team were discovered by the replicators, you would think the replicators would have gone after the wrath technology during or after after their war with the Asguards._
I assume you mean the Ancients (the Lanteans) here. The goal of the Replicators (the Asurans) was to survive, and to emulate their makers. Their base programming to attack the Wraith had been disabled. So they're not exactly the conquering type.
If you are, in fact, referring to the Asgard... They moved from the milky way to the Ida galaxy, that is where the replicators were chasing them and where they eventually meet their demise. Although we later learned that a small faction of the Asgard with a different ideology separated from them & went to Pegasus to continue their study of humans as a solution to their genetic problems.
It was the wraith, not the replicators, that were a threat to the list tribe of the Asgard in Pegasus.
The human replicators in Pegasus were not programmed with drive to conquer, assimilate & multiply like those encountered in the milky way and Ida.
SGU is a finished story, divided on 5 seasons. Its so sad that we will never see the ending.
4.35 , the manned by the wrong people, in the wrong place is half incorrect as in 'the wrong place' part as they had no idea as to where the 9 chevan on the Stargate went to start with ,,
Wouldn't it have been an 8 symbol address that they found in the Atlantis database? The 9th symbol would be point of origin and specific to the dialing gate (final solution to the dialing problem not withstanding).
Yes, but that makes it a 9 chevron address since you always have to account for that. Also actually if I recall correctly didn't the ninth chevron HAVE to be Earth's regardless of dialing location?
It would be interrsting to get an episode from tye bad guys point of veiw . .like the Wraith or the Nikki (forgot the name of the recurring antogonist species from SGU)
I want stargate back
NOW
show need more 2 or 3 seasons its getting good but they canceled :(
If I remember right and nine chevron addresses represent a serial number of gates and assuming there are 36 possible symbols in each chevron and repeats can occur there are 110 quadrillion 23 trillion 236 billion 390 million 784 stargate serial number possibilities. Likely the totality of the network including Lantian, Ori, and Agard models though as explained dialing a specific gate rather than figuring out an eight symbol address then dialing where you need to go would take a lot less power than a naquadrah planet. Couple ZPMs tops
Ok I know I am really late to this video but one thing about SGU that always felt off was the naquadria rich planet, was it not established that naquadria was an artificial element, that it required a certain type of radiation to turn natural naquada into naquadria, and the only reason it existed on Quinn's homeworld was due to experiments, and had the transformation of naquada to naquadria not been interrupted Quinn's world would have been destroyed, that would mean a naquadria rich planet is impossible doesn't it?
IIRC the distinction here is that a Goa'uld scientist artificially created naquadria on Jonas' planet, but that doesn't mean it is not also naturally occurring elsewhere. The Goa'uld might have found it in small quantities (even on Jonas' planet) and then decided to try and manufacture it artificially.
I never understood, why they didnt use the 3 ZPMs from Atlantis to reach the Destiny. The energy of 2 old ancient ships was enough to reach earth, so 3 ZPMs should be able to do it.
There were also at least 4 dead ZPMs in the posession of the Stargate Center. Why not charge them with the planet energy or send them to the Destiny using Atlantis and charge them with Destinys solar power.
Earth also has the knowladge of the Asgard with a hologram to explain their tech. Just use that and/or the Atlantis database to built a new energy source.
I forgot how much I hated the cinematography of SGU, the camera work is so so NOT Stargate feeling.
I loved this series but ended to soon.
You got information wrong in this video.
The Icarus base was outside the gate network and could not dial local addresses. The gate was special and could Only dial the 9 chevron address. They found the Ancient base on the planet after finding the information in the ancient database and the planets location / address. But the gate would not Connect so they flew there with a ship... They found the base and setup their own... But still the gate would not connect locally or galactically to pegasus. The planet core contained Naqu'da (not naquadria, which is the High power But extremely unstable product created by a goa'uld system lord.) When they came under attack Rush decided to dial the 9 chevron address to try and connect the wormhole, so they could escape. The Wormhole connected. But during the attack the geothermal power connection was damaged. So it overloaded while they were drawing power. Resulting in the catastrophic destruction of the base and planet.
There was no choice about where they could dial the gate. It was designed to only dial one address. To its destination aboard the Destiny on the far edge of the universe.
I think you need to check your sources and rewatch the episode.
@@GateWorldDotNet Episode 1 - 25 minutes and 10 seconds. Colonel David Telford says "But the ancients built 'the stargate' with 9 chevrons. It's got to go somewhere."
32:25 - Rush says "it took us 2 years to find this site. The properties are unique. If this bombardment continues, the Radioactive core is going to go critical."
Please note some of my information is wrong. But also so is some of your information. I just rewatched the first two episodes to refresh my memory.
They could have dialed anywhere but things said in the show have been false before. Just like when Rush said destiny was launched 100s of thousands of years ago
The thing that made me think they could not dial earth or just gate to the planet... Was that they used a ship to get there... Either way using the gate to get there was much better than flying the ship the whole way with people... Rather than just using the gate. Which made me think the gate might be on an isolated network...
@@albratgaming2348 the gate could only have outgoing wormholes and not incoming wormholes
Something is wrong here i think... Nicolas was not contacted after his wife passed away, because he has regrets she passed away during his time invested trough working for stargate command on Icarus Project.
I never understood how the military personnel in SGU passed their pysch evluations, none of them imo where worthy to be let into the stargate program at all, its such an odd thing, usually its the civilian characters you either care little or not about in previous SG series but in SGU I really disliked ALL the military characters :/
I thought the same thing about Rush.
@@darwinjina they are there for the expertise ans knowledge, looking back at SG1 you get some rather, haha wacky scientists, as long as they have the know how and are not a security risk via exposing the program its fine.
Least thats my interpretation, as they are 'out of house' contractors so to speak, while we know as its established that there is a very extreme and thorough vetting for the military pesonell, going by that team in the early seasons of SG1 (one became a Tokra I forget their names) while the SGU military characters are a basket of nuts and fruitcakes.
@@regalgiant1597 fwiw, I was no fan of the SGU military, but I disliked Rush the most due to his decisions. (not that I liked the military ones either) Still would like to see some closure on it.
@@darwinjina Oh yes Rush was a dick, but the problem i had with Universe was that one of their military literally tried to leave Rush for dead, their lead and only scientist. Rush was questionable at times, but that was insane.
I'm sure if the Stargate had the Spore Drive you'll be able to find Destiny
We barely have enough power to operate the main systems! This ship, simply doesn't have the capacity to dial earth!
I definitely think the claava thessara infiniatus was Destiny
no one question how a bunch of ragtags piloting older gouald ships managed to scratch one of earth's most advanced battleships, even pushing them against the ropes?
IF the stargate really was to be made of Naquadriah we'd have the most Deadly and Destructive Hoop of all time
Edit: *Sorry i was distracted so i missheard but still, DEATH HOOP!*
I always hoped they would dial out and zoom over there and find a earth like planet but like in an old 1960's movie everything is the same but writing is all backwards.
I like to learn who the Lucian alliance are
They were the groups that filled the void after the primary system lords died.
Good suggestion for a future video! We'll make sure they are on the list.
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If Destiny's mission had been revealed early on, then hit us with the character drama stuff, this show would have worked. Instead, we were force-fed SGU: 90210 drama for season 1, then got the actual, interesting Destiny stuff in season 2. By the time Destiny's mission was revealed, I was rooting for character's to die just so they'd stop talking. Still, would love to know what the message was about in the cosmic background noise...hopefully not some lame time-loop BS that it was somehow Destiny's crew the whole time.
Agreed, they also could have just left the drama stuff out entirely. Like seriously dude, you're going to leave your best scientist for dead because he's a bit of an ass?
To be honest once you have access to Ancient tech of Atlantis why would you ever try to dial into a ship the Ancients decided themselves was not worth going back to
Eli didn’t change clothes for 2 years
By the time of Twin Destinies I saw it had potential. I didn’t like the brutal treatment of civilians pressed into service or the Marine who had a chip on his shoulder.
For everyone who misses SGU. There is a comic that continues where the series stopped.
Yeah but it wasn’t done by Brad Write and isn’t canon.
@@HedgeHypnotist agreed. Read it myself. Hasn't even finished or been tied up yet. One thing I found ridiculous is the ancients on Destiny (which made no sense to me after the show) said the communications stones were a game or made for fun? Which is stupid. They were made to communication long distance. I'm guessing before the first Stargate was made. Also, I wonder if the milky way gates started off as Destiny gates but got replaced later on to the ones in SG-1.
It's too bad RUclips ruined Stargate with their Origins disaster. There's talk of bringing back Shanks for a true SG1 continuation series. Imagine if Amazon picked it up and threw some money at it.....
How can an Icarus type planet even exist. Jonas Quinn's planet almost blew up because of the naquadria vein almost reaching the core of the planet.(Season 7 episode 14)
Naquadria deposits appear to have been (either mostly or entirely) created by Goa'uld scientific experimentation long ago. Icarus-type planets are so hard to find because (a) they don't appear to be naturally occurring, and (b) they do have that tendency to blow up.
@@GateWorldDotNet Exactly, so the planet should not exist but there are not just one but at least two naquadria core planet that exist. And they were hoping that there was another Icarus type planet along destiny's route. The writers can not should not rewrite there own cannon. Sorry I've wanted to say that ever since the show came out.
It just explains why they are exceptionally rare. I'd have to go back and search the SGU transcripts, but it seems to me at some point they established (or at least theorized) that naquadria could possibly also occur naturally.
But the changes of finding such a planet along Destiny's course -- yeah, I'd say statistically zero.
@@tylerdavis4621 "Exactly, so the planet should not exist" that's not what they said at all, it means they would be rare and probably fleeting. I'd also say there's a difference between a planet having a naquadria vein reach its core and a core being made of naquadria. Icarus type planets have naquadria cores, not normal planet cores so how they would interact with naquadria veins would be different.
The comment section is high. This was a terrible battle Star galáctica rip off and I wish we had used all the money for this one on another season of Atlantis
So much wasted potential from this franchise
Wrong people, wrong place...
I m not sure
They should go home ( earth )
The wrong people... are you sure about that ;)
Well, that was the assertion anyway...
@@DJJonPattrsn22 We are like seeds from a tree , fallen into the winds of fate that carry us to the place where we will take root in our ... Destiny.
So Stargate ripped off The Last Starfighter. I wonder if anyone knows what I am talking about?
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Cette vidéo à la con est sensée apprendre QUOI que nous ne savions déjà ???...
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SGU had a good premise but was a HORRIBLE show. It was basically the worst parts of Battlestar Galactica with a stargate.
SGU was borring like hell
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@@stevenyia2778 He's right. The first season was a chore to get through thanks to personal drama no one cared about forcing the actual universe as it were to take a backseat.
Legit the name "Icarus" screams impending failure. Why ever call a project that?
i simply didnt like sgu
I really didn't like SGU. It's deviation from the normal tone and style of the SG series was only a small part of the problem. None of the characters were relatable or likeable. The fat guy with a "you are here" shirt was effectively an insult to the nerd fan base. The character back stories weren't fed gradually, but rather forced out so fast it was devoid of subtlety.
The shaky cam was excessive, the plot resolutions were predictable, the character drama was excessive...
I shouldn't complain forever, but I'll just say that it deserved to fail.
Its a shame too the core concept was good, if only the writers hadn't confused dark and mature for drama and humorless.
SGU sucked ass. The premise isolated the show too much from other guest actors. Can't beat the simple 1 hour "one and done" format of SG1 and SGA. Throw in a compelling nemesis with a few story ARC's and it wins every time. Keep the emotional shit for other failed series like Battle Star Galactica. lol.
It could have worked, but the personal drama was so fucking oppressive.
How the Lucian Alliance were able to destroy the Icarus base with its shields and defensive weapons and not get destroyed by the USS Hammond with its beam weapons and Asgard shields not to mention the ability to beam nukes is not believable .. The LA only had Goa'uld ships .. Not even Ori ships could survive the beam weapons
yeah that's what pisses me off with Snargate writing, they are never consistent and trip over their own feet too many times..1 battle cruiser would have been more than enough for a couple of gould motherships, Nevermind they're little ships
@@jamiemcaloon5548 Yeah, it makes no sense, the Daedalus class is way too strong in comparison to any Ha'tak Warship
It seems like the simple explanation to have it work would be if the LA snuck one ship around with a payload to set the planet off given its unstable while they sent a small force to distract them. They wouldn't be winning by mysteriously overwhelming things, they'd win by using a pretty basic tactic this way.
PS they should not have let Rush dial the 9th chevron period
I definitely think the claava thessara infiniatus was Destiny