From my personal experiences allowing your tank to mature is the best way to fight algae issues. Usually after that 6 month mark hair algae begins to die off while coralline algae and beneficial bacteria take over.
Thanks for the video, I have also struggled with green hair algae for 18 months, in my first tank. I have just given reef flux a go and have lost half my sps corals so would recommend avoiding that. Similar issue with calcium and alkalinity spiking also. I have always used nopox and was investigating phosphat-e when I found your videos. Added to your advice, I decided it’s time to replace the cheep skimmer that came with my tank and final step will be a refugium in a few weeks as a more natural export method, once I have gha under control.
Ive done everything you stated and i still have this stuff growing. I remove it, i run rowa, im doubling my rodi filters, the last thing i can do is throw the reef tank out a window.
Each tank is a different environment man. Don’t give up. My reef gets fed once a week a day before the water change, and I still have hair algae. For me, it’s light based. A lot of hair algae can flourish with little to no excess nutrients. Just keep trying things, and look into a lawnmower Blenny and emerald crab combo.
When I did my battle with GHA, I had no nitrate and phosphate reading at all because the algae absorbed it... even though I kept it cleaned down to the rock! I also used Nopox and it just made the coral pale and I lost a few pieces. This went on for months. The only thing that worked was Vibrant, but it's not SPS friendly and I lost a bunch of colonies because of it. I'm glad this system worked for you though! Beautiful little tank!
I get so tried of these types of reefers that assume that everyone has an algae scrubber, UV sterilizer, filter socks, sump, refugium, etc etc Tell me how to get rid of the damn algae Don’t tell me my tank sucks because I don’t have a 150 stage sump with a million different gadgets and that’s why I can’t get rid of algae
@@eatsleepreef9565 Great video sir.. stunning tank for sure... I have a 850 gallon, and loads of hair algae at the moment. My question is, I read zero on Po4, but 25 on Nitrates... would you suggest just using Nopox? Thank you for your time... subbed for sure!
I just finished a battle with GHA algae in my tank. My main help was my Valentini Puffer who took interest in it recently, and my turbo and trochus snails.
Amazing that you put this video together. Very helpful. I think I can say that pretty much everyone that has a reef setup has encountered hair algae (or other kinds) at some point. So its relevant. Realistically speaking, I think most folks will probably tailor the method to what they think is best for their system but the point is that you give the basic outline, right here. I'm sure this vid will end up getting a lot of views because it will put reefers on the right track. Your tank's lookin' pretty good by the way.
Yet another wonderful, articulate presentation. I totally agree with everything you said but I personally had great success by going down the Flucanozole route. Just added the capsules, left skimmer off for 2 days and 3/4 weeks later GHA free. I subsequently realised the PO4 causing my GHA issue was (probably) leeching from either the dry ceramic rock or dry sand i had used and ended up using no-pox and Phosphate e for a few months to keep things under control until i weaned the tank off them slowly but completely to where it is now. I always keep some Phosphate e handy though as like you said, its a wonderful product giving instant and accurate results.
I just battled a large algae problem. I believe it was brown hair algae. I originally tried 2 different cyano treatments but that did nothing. I did full blackout for a week that did nothing. I even tried a stack of hermit crabs but they couldn't keep up with it. I run an algae reactor so my nitrates and phosphates are always nearly 0 and I use the clarisea 3000 so I don't have dirty filter socks so I never did find the source of my algae problem. But then I tried DINO-X. I blew out all the detritus with a turkey baster as you did and scrubbed all my rocks with a toothbruth and did 3 25% water changes in a week then started dosing DINO-X. 10ml every 2 days for 10 doses (20 days). The algae is completely gone!!! This stuff is amazing and I recommend anyone with hair algae to try it! No effect on any corals or fish :) And I knocked my lighting back to 6 hrs a day (as the instructions suggest).
Wow, I've been doing it wrong for so long. I have low nitrate, and hi phosphate. Should I use the same method. Nitrate is 0.75, phosphate 0.059 with Hanna.
Great explanation makes perfect sense thanks will definitely be trying this been battling gah for a while but dose the nopox kill of the cheto in the refugium
Has anyone had any problems with their ATO tanks TDS increase over time? My TDS meter reads 0 when it comes out into the container and after 2 weeks my ato tank reads 4TDS. Keep in mind my ATO tank is 5 gallons.
EAT SLEEP Reef Thanks for the reply! I’ll definitely need to start clean/rinse it out. Had it for almost 3 months and the 1st two months without a actual cap.... Thanks!
GHA GREW in my tank when I STOPPED feeding my daily high nutrient food and aminos...and I only fed once a day every other day.... and my phos was at 0. OUTBREAK... WHY? no nutrients allows gha to grow as well if you have a chaeto fuge. You weaken the chaeto and gha grows easier. Great idea tho! I did the same.. allowed one big loose rock to have all the gha... it looked like a head in my tank! Then whoop! Pulled out the rock..all gone gha & nutrients.
great video, my only issue is running ULN in a tank causes other problems such as Dinoflagellates. I had my NO3 & PO4 at near zero and now I'm in a hard core battle with Dinoflagellates, so much confusion with info as far as P & N now people are saying keep PO4 >.05 and NO3 to 5 to 10 to keep tank stabilized!
How did you find the low light and low flow for the goni? I have a huge goni which my clowns live in, full light and lots of flow and it thrives so I guess they can be different.. You can check mine out here if you like ruclips.net/video/SyeW97cPSXY/видео.html
Im a Old School Reefer and I firmly believe that most reefers these days over feed, carry too heavy of a bio-load (fish) and depend on the latest "Trick of the Week" solution to reef keeping without getting the basics right first! Feel free to tell me where I am wrong...
how do you clean your subtrate of all the fish poo & how do you clean red cyanobacteria? My sand subtratte is dirty & I don't know how to keep up with it ;(
I have some wierd circumstance going on and want your advise. I had no alae ever until my tank crashed. I recycled it and now I suppose I have a new system. I dint follow any reboot or anything. I was just trying to save my corals so I was adding prime when the ammonia and nitrates started. All this started from low salinty and perhaps changing out my aquascape, because some gave me a beautiful cave and arch. Anyway I removed the fish. I have them in m y big tank now. Dont really want to put them back(long story) I also dont really want to add fish until everything is okay. I have the soft corals left that survived the crash. So now I have green hair algae. Its not that long and its been a few weeks. How long does it have to get before I can start pulling it off? Its only a 10 gallon. I have a small skimmer I dont use because of space but since I have no fish now I can hook that up. Its a small airstone type. I am so tempted to scrub it all off and that was my plan today! I know with your new tank you used continum or something like that. Do you still believ in this method or continum and can I do this with no fish? I can feed the coral xtra or just throw more in there. I could pick up a tough damsel I suppose. I do have a snail and some hermits. My other question is should i just start this tank over again since It did crash. I think the crash has caused all this algae or the recycle. I do want to use that same rock though since its so nice but scrub real good and start over? which is the way to go in my situation? I also want to point out I am not even sure what I am dealing with its hairy but its very very dark green growing on rocks and the sand bed just a little, not hairy, dosnt show up until a week right before water change but I vacuum it weekly during waterchanges and glass a little kind of looks dark green to brownish on glass. I also have some specks of dark red, so maybe cyano but Its no slimy at all Rocks is where the hair is. Also. Can I buy a screen to cover my wavemaker? Is algae contagious? I lost a bunch of lps that I just recieved about 2 weeks before and I notice green all over the frag plugs. I wanted to use them though because they also had coraline but wonder If I should always replace frag plugs if they have algae on them and they always do it seems! also worry if I couls somehow transfer to my other tank through cross contamination. Thanks for an help! Love your channel and tanks! I miss this tank for sure! It was awesome!
Using NOPOX at 4 ml at once can cause cyano and Dino in my experience its best to start at 2 ml for about 2 -3 weeks and slowly increase to 4 ml! just my experience and opinion then again my tank does not look at all like yours......
With TDS it takes a weeks use of my RODI system and it starts to go from 0-1... am I meant to change out my filter stages every week? that seems over the top for me.
Hi did you ever think of using vibrant my red sea Reefer 250 was covered in what I think was turf algae and bubble algae I used vibrant (6.5 ml) a week I now have zero turf algae and my bubble algae looks as if it dieing off In my experience I could not recommend vibrant enough
So I know this vid is a lil old but I know have o phosphate and o nitrate . And am fighting green hair can’t keep it out and was feeding 1 a day….nitrate was 8-10 and could not get nitrate with salifert o…… I started feeding 2 a day know with fudge..
Couple of questions... I usually have undetectable nitrates using low-range tests. My phosphates are never out of control, but they will show up on low-range tests. Should I leave out the Nopox and just use Phosphate-E? Also, regarding letting the algae get long and blasting the rocks with the Turkey baster every day... when I blast the rocks, a lot of algae comes off. Should I wait until the algae gets really long before blasting the rocks?
This has probably been answered before in your videos but what sort of tank is that? and how many Litres or Gallons? ATM battling brown hair algae in my tank and found this awesome video!
From my personal experiences allowing your tank to mature is the best way to fight algae issues. Usually after that 6 month mark hair algae begins to die off while coralline algae and beneficial bacteria take over.
Solid info and makes complete sense, thanks! 🤓👍
Appreciate it man!
Thanks for the video, I have also struggled with green hair algae for 18 months, in my first tank. I have just given reef flux a go and have lost half my sps corals so would recommend avoiding that. Similar issue with calcium and alkalinity spiking also. I have always used nopox and was investigating phosphat-e when I found your videos. Added to your advice, I decided it’s time to replace the cheep skimmer that came with my tank and final step will be a refugium in a few weeks as a more natural export method, once I have gha under control.
Hello can you help me
Ive done everything you stated and i still have this stuff growing. I remove it, i run rowa, im doubling my rodi filters, the last thing i can do is throw the reef tank out a window.
Phosphate e should be enough how much have you been dosing
Each tank is a different environment man. Don’t give up. My reef gets fed once a week a day before the water change, and I still have hair algae. For me, it’s light based. A lot of hair algae can flourish with little to no excess nutrients. Just keep trying things, and look into a lawnmower Blenny and emerald crab combo.
Haha.. im in that boat too .. the only thing that keeps me in the hobby is to not feel like a complete failure .. gud luck to you..
When I did my battle with GHA, I had no nitrate and phosphate reading at all because the algae absorbed it... even though I kept it cleaned down to the rock! I also used Nopox and it just made the coral pale and I lost a few pieces. This went on for months. The only thing that worked was Vibrant, but it's not SPS friendly and I lost a bunch of colonies because of it. I'm glad this system worked for you though! Beautiful little tank!
Thank you, and that is a gorgeous set up!
I get so tried of these types of reefers that assume that everyone has an algae scrubber, UV sterilizer, filter socks, sump, refugium, etc etc
Tell me how to get rid of the damn algae
Don’t tell me my tank sucks because I don’t have a 150 stage sump with a million different gadgets and that’s why I can’t get rid of algae
Your method makes a lot of sense. Thank you.
Why is dosing phosphate-E necessary when nopox removes phos and nitrate?
because no-pox removes more NO3 than PO4 so the phosphate e gets to work on the remaining PO4. Hope this helps.
It doesn’t remove them at same ratios. Not even close. It barely touches phosphates
Yup!
@@eatsleepreef9565 Great video sir.. stunning tank for sure... I have a 850 gallon, and loads of hair algae at the moment. My question is, I read zero on Po4, but 25 on Nitrates... would you suggest just using Nopox?
Thank you for your time... subbed for sure!
hey i like your content. your a pretty cool creator lets do sub for a sub
I just finished a battle with GHA algae in my tank. My main help was my Valentini Puffer who took interest in it recently, and my turbo and trochus snails.
And also feeding less
Happy that worked :)
Amazing that you put this video together. Very helpful. I think I can say that pretty much everyone that has a reef setup has encountered hair algae (or other kinds) at some point. So its relevant.
Realistically speaking, I think most folks will probably tailor the method to what they think is best for their system but the point is that you give the basic outline, right here. I'm sure this vid will end up getting a lot of views because it will put reefers on the right track.
Your tank's lookin' pretty good by the way.
Thanks for this video man!!! Do you stop dosing both nopox and phosphate e after the green hair algae is completely gone?
It’s up to you. If you don’t get a nutrient export in line yes. Just obviously you can run levels a little higher
Yet another wonderful, articulate presentation. I totally agree with everything you said but I personally had great success by going down the Flucanozole route. Just added the capsules, left skimmer off for 2 days and 3/4 weeks later GHA free. I subsequently realised the PO4 causing my GHA issue was (probably) leeching from either the dry ceramic rock or dry sand i had used and ended up using no-pox and Phosphate e for a few months to keep things under control until i weaned the tank off them slowly but completely to where it is now. I always keep some Phosphate e handy though as like you said, its a wonderful product giving instant and accurate results.
Thanks man appreciate it. Ya flux did not work for me at all :(
What is the orange/blue long tentacled organism in the lower right quadrant and where can i buy one? Thanks.
what lights do you use and what setting if you don't mind sharing? love the pop of your corals.
I just battled a large algae problem. I believe it was brown hair algae. I originally tried 2 different cyano treatments but that did nothing. I did full blackout for a week that did nothing. I even tried a stack of hermit crabs but they couldn't keep up with it. I run an algae reactor so my nitrates and phosphates are always nearly 0 and I use the clarisea 3000 so I don't have dirty filter socks so I never did find the source of my algae problem. But then I tried DINO-X. I blew out all the detritus with a turkey baster as you did and scrubbed all my rocks with a toothbruth and did 3 25% water changes in a week then started dosing DINO-X. 10ml every 2 days for 10 doses (20 days). The algae is completely gone!!! This stuff is amazing and I recommend anyone with hair algae to try it! No effect on any corals or fish :) And I knocked my lighting back to 6 hrs a day (as the instructions suggest).
Wow, I've been doing it wrong for so long. I have low nitrate, and hi phosphate. Should I use the same method.
Nitrate is 0.75, phosphate 0.059 with Hanna.
Great explanation makes perfect sense thanks will definitely be trying this been battling gah for a while but dose the nopox kill of the cheto in the refugium
hey i like your content. your a pretty cool creator lets do sub for a sub
The Fundamentals! Love this!!!
Thanks!
What would be the best setting for a China black box for a lps/softie tank
Takes patience and active time. Good job. Nice video and info. Thanks.
What is OTDS RODI? I know that TDS is total dissolved solids, what exactly am I asking for at my lfs when asking for OTDS? Thanks! Beautiful Tank.
Do you have a video on your feeding process? Would love to see one!
Yup. It’s one of the last. How to get best color
@@eatsleepreef9565 Awesome!
Replace filter sock everyday? With a new one or just washing the filter sock daily?
Has anyone had any problems with their ATO tanks TDS increase over time? My TDS meter reads 0 when it comes out into the container and after 2 weeks my ato tank reads 4TDS. Keep in mind my ATO tank is 5 gallons.
Yes I have same thing that happens if it’s not covered. It’s pretty common over time. I clean once every 3 months
EAT SLEEP Reef Thanks for the reply! I’ll definitely need to start clean/rinse it out. Had it for almost 3 months and the 1st two months without a actual cap.... Thanks!
GHA GREW in my tank when I STOPPED feeding my daily high nutrient food and aminos...and I only fed once a day every other day.... and my phos was at 0. OUTBREAK... WHY? no nutrients allows gha to grow as well if you have a chaeto fuge. You weaken the chaeto and gha grows easier. Great idea tho! I did the same.. allowed one big loose rock to have all the gha... it looked like a head in my tank!
Then whoop! Pulled out the rock..all gone gha & nutrients.
great video, my only issue is running ULN in a tank causes other problems such as Dinoflagellates. I had my NO3 & PO4 at near zero and now I'm in a hard core battle with Dinoflagellates, so much confusion with info as far as P & N
now people are saying keep PO4 >.05 and NO3 to 5 to 10 to keep tank stabilized!
Any tips on gonipora? I see that nice one you have. I got one coming this week I wanted to give a try
It must be a well established tank first. Then put in low flow and lower light and that’s it. Very easy. Feed often
How did you find the low light and low flow for the goni? I have a huge goni which my clowns live in, full light and lots of flow and it thrives so I guess they can be different.. You can check mine out here if you like ruclips.net/video/SyeW97cPSXY/видео.html
What kinda light are you running by chance?
I've not seen that wrasse yet, its cool, what kind is it?
Very common leapord
@@eatsleepreef9565 I think since the reef is beyond fucking amazing, it doesn't allow my eyes to concentrate on the fish.
Just curious as to when you’re changing your channels name to ReefGod?
That, and thx so much. I was this close to setting my tank on fire😅
I’ve been very discouraged with my algae problem for a while. Should I try a refugium first or do this first then add refugium?
Does this method work with red cyano ? Which I think I introduced it with a high tds in top up water. If not which way works ? Thanks and keep it up
So put what you said to practice as I had some green hair algea issues and wow it works great advice
Love your tank . Looks bout same size as mine. Do you have a sump on back aswell..
clear and informal
Thanks man!
Love the colour (mix corals)
where to get the fan what kind is it
what size is your tank?
What kind of lightning do you have on yourn tank?
Unfortunately I dosed reef flux and lost all my euphyllia:/ so yeah thats a bummer.
Those corals! Unreal 😍🙏🙏
Thanks!
Welcome 💪
Hi, love your videos, i have questions, do you use phosphate e everyday? how big is your tank?
Thanks
Hanna checker for po4. Best bit of kit ever. Also their alk in ppm is amazing. Was the two things and my auto doser that basically let me keep
BRS don't recommend scrubbing rock inside tank because it spreads algae spoors
Im a Old School Reefer and I firmly believe that most reefers these days over feed, carry too heavy of a bio-load (fish) and depend on the latest "Trick of the Week" solution to reef keeping without getting the basics right first! Feel free to tell me where I am wrong...
What kind of lights are you using, the colors looks amazing.
how do you clean your sand subtrate? my sand is dirty & i don’t know how to suck it out
Nice vids Dude .... Best explained and without the telling peeps to F off like some other Dudes!!! although his videos kick ass to...
Who tells people to F off haha?
how do you clean your subtrate of all the fish poo & how do you clean red cyanobacteria? My sand subtratte is dirty & I don't know how to keep up with it ;(
I freaking love your tank
I have some wierd circumstance going on and want your advise. I had no alae ever until my tank crashed. I recycled it and now I suppose I have a new system. I dint follow any reboot or anything. I was just trying to save my corals so I was adding prime when the ammonia and nitrates started. All this started from low salinty and perhaps changing out my aquascape, because some gave me a beautiful cave and arch. Anyway I removed the fish. I have them in m y big tank now. Dont really want to put them back(long story) I also dont really want to add fish until everything is okay. I have the soft corals left that survived the crash. So now I have green hair algae. Its not that long and its been a few weeks. How long does it have to get before I can start pulling it off? Its only a 10 gallon. I have a small skimmer I dont use because of space but since I have no fish now I can hook that up. Its a small airstone type. I am so tempted to scrub it all off and that was my plan today! I know with your new tank you used continum or something like that. Do you still believ in this method or continum and can I do this with no fish? I can feed the coral xtra or just throw more in there. I could pick up a tough damsel I suppose. I do have a snail and some hermits. My other question is should i just start this tank over again since It did crash. I think the crash has caused all this algae or the recycle. I do want to use that same rock though since its so nice but scrub real good and start over? which is the way to go in my situation? I also want to point out I am not even sure what I am dealing with its hairy but its very very dark green growing on rocks and the sand bed just a little, not hairy, dosnt show up until a week right before water change but I vacuum it weekly during waterchanges and glass a little kind of looks dark green to brownish on glass. I also have some specks of dark red, so maybe cyano but Its no slimy at all Rocks is where the hair is. Also. Can I buy a screen to cover my wavemaker? Is algae contagious? I lost a bunch of lps that I just recieved about 2 weeks before and I notice green all over the frag plugs. I wanted to use them though because they also had coraline but wonder If I should always replace frag plugs if they have algae on them and they always do it seems! also worry if I couls somehow transfer to my other tank through cross contamination. Thanks for an help! Love your channel and tanks! I miss this tank for sure! It was awesome!
Good video. 👍
Thanks you
with the no po x i have hair algea in 45 long gallon how much per gallon
Good video man! Solid info! Have you ever tried fluconazole (not the reef flux version)?
Using NOPOX at 4 ml at once can cause cyano and Dino in my experience its best to start at 2 ml for about 2 -3 weeks and slowly increase to 4 ml! just my experience and opinion then again my tank does not look at all like yours......
With TDS it takes a weeks use of my RODI system and it starts to go from 0-1... am I meant to change out my filter stages every week? that seems over the top for me.
Wow what a beautiful tank.
Thanks 👍
Hi did you ever think of using vibrant my red sea Reefer 250 was covered in what I think was turf algae and bubble algae I used vibrant (6.5 ml) a week I now have zero turf algae and my bubble algae looks as if it dieing off In my experience I could not recommend vibrant enough
So I know this vid is a lil old but I know have o phosphate and o nitrate . And am fighting green hair can’t keep it out and was feeding 1 a day….nitrate was 8-10 and could not get nitrate with salifert o…… I started feeding 2 a day know with fudge..
How do you control the gsp on the back wall
Gorgeous tank love to always see your videos... question I have a mixed red sea 250 with 2 hydra 26 can you recommend me a light preset please
Great video, thanks again.
very informative. I use nopox but it's a first time I've heard using phosphate e
What’s that blue and yellow galaxy type coral
Did you not get Dinos running your nutrients so low?
Thanks for making the video
Will this effect my sea lettuce fuge? Long term effect on refugium
Just dose vibrant weekly and that’ll solve your problem wayyyy easier
Great job 👍
Thanks :)
Where to get some zoas like yours
It would help if you posted Amazon links to those products, and if you sign up with Amazon as an affiliate you will get a kickback
amazing looking tank
Can you do this with a maxi clam in the system?
Great video probably the best one on algae control well done
Thanks Steve!!! Nice to see you are still around.
Lovely tank, could u share you lightning percentages please?
Did you find your sand sifting goby kicked up a lot of sand and made tank cloudy at first? Do you know if this gets better? Any tips thanks
At first yes and in new sand yes
Liters?
Couple of questions...
I usually have undetectable nitrates using low-range tests. My phosphates are never out of control, but they will show up on low-range tests. Should I leave out the Nopox and just use Phosphate-E?
Also, regarding letting the algae get long and blasting the rocks with the Turkey baster every day... when I blast the rocks, a lot of algae comes off. Should I wait until the algae gets really long before blasting the rocks?
Love the color. Trying to match. Dark algea. On some corals. Threw away wvery food. Except benepets
Those fish are lucky to live in such a beautiful tank.🤓
Great info . 👍🏻
Thanks :)
This has probably been answered before in your videos but what sort of tank is that? and how many Litres or Gallons? ATM battling brown hair algae in my tank and found this awesome video!
Hello! Glad you enjoyed it. This is a 45 gallon JBJ
awesome thanks heaps! no worries i just subscribed and am keen to watch more amazing tank!
@@eatsleepreef9565
Thanks glad I earned your SUB!!!
just get some chaeto with a light 24/7 on hob refugium or filter. then use 1 bag of Purigen at all times. DONE. easy. no chemicals needed.
Where you been dude?
try a UV sterilizer .. works wonders
I tried it and didnt do anything, im currently going through dinos and GHA so im just gonna throw the tank out the window lol
Way to many fish in there bro. But nice corals!
Algae still grows with nitrates and phosphate levels at zero.
Bro why did you stop making videos come back
preach it ;)
Awesome
Great info and a wonderful video, really enjoyed and you have a very easy to listen to voice. Can you do one on dinoflagilates?
Thanks man really appreciate it. It will be hard for me as I have never had them :(
Will this work on brown hair algae as well? My fuge is full of it and the DT has brown algae as well
Hmm not sure. I would say yes as this address all excess nutrient issues
I thought I read somewhere you cannot use both of these together?
How big this tank
One lawnmower blenny in a 55 gal decimated all green hair algea then the mushroom spread like weeds
Oh yea and how do you deal with dinos? 😂
Corals need some phosphate and nitrates a lot of Justice doesn't make sense
Great vid, thx..