RESULTS OF A WATER TEST ON POSTS CARRIED OUT ..... check out the link here ..... ruclips.net/video/VWs6RLg6M-g/видео.html 23rd September 2023 ..... I'm releasing results from a test I've been waiting to do for a while now. It's on 3 different methods of preparing fence posts. 1 has been dipped in waste oil, 1 has been charred with fire and the 3rd was the base post as you would buy it from the timber yard. To check video out click the link!
I have oil soaked fence posts on my land that have been there about 100 years. I'm currently replacing them because the above ground parts have rotted. The oil soaked part underground was still good.
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
No matter the wood, we use cedar untreated for fence posts and they always rot at ground level. The part underground can't get air so it will never rot but water when it rains will rot the post off at ground level every time.
To be fair, you could argue that any extra protection or treatment on those posts is environmentally friendly, doubling, tripling or extending their useful 'life' saves buying more, saves cutting down trees and the whole process of getting them to you.
@@LaidBackHomesteader My dad always used to say, Your money is better off in your pocket than anyone else's, and joking apart, you are right re time and hassle, anything you can do now and moving forward to make things last longer, or make things easier, will pay off in the long run. The thing is, there will always be something to do, and factor in sods law, last thing you need is changing half a dozen posts in mid January with Snow on the ground and minus 10 temps
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
My experience in the oil in the oil industry would suggest that oil in contact with normal soil near the ground surface will be eaten my microbes in a matter of a couple of weeks once the soil temperature is warmed to summer temperatures. This is the area that many post fail. Oil is not toxic enough to stop decay, it is actually good food for the things that cause wood decay.
Hi Brian, the more Microorganisms in the soil the better. Thats what Dr Elaine Ingham from the food soil web says so and I believe her. The microorganisms make nutrient's available to the plant. I'm going to try my hand at making compost tea this year
In my area at least we did this for years, as well as sprayed oil on our gravel roads to make "macadam" Both practices have been outlawed Something about water pollution killing fish and making water unsafe to drink for years
I'm sure what ever they put on the roads today is no better. There are plenty of guys still using waste oil throughout the countryside. If I had somewhere dry to store the posts I'd be doing more.
I was looking at my county's asphalt equipment out on the roads the other day, laughing to myself about how their job is basically to spill oil everywhere 😂 This seems like a great use for old oil, and a great way to extend the life of your timber.
Subscriber from South Africa. Thanks brother for your knowledge, just to ask one question: if i can heat those poles in a dry barrel and light firewood then after i pour treatment in hot poles would you advise that?
The posts will dry out and split, but that will allow more oil to soak deeper into the wood. Be careful if you do this. It might be a bit risky using oil around an open fire.
Great informative video!👍 I think letting posts dry out and the cracks to open up before dipping them is the way to go! I've had green treated stabs and strainers rot an fail inside 5 years, which I think is borderline fraud!! I'm going cut my own larch posts removing all the sapwood and treat them with oil/ creosote like you from now on!
The good weather i had was helping me with the drying out process. Coating the posts is messy. You'd need to be working in a shed having plenty of posts soaking. Thanks for comment
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
I did a test and recon they will always soak up the moisture from the ground regardless. I think if they are coated at the point where post entries the ground rot will be slowed.
My Dad did the same thing to Fence posts when I was a Nipper, lastime I saw them 20 plus years later, they were still Solid. The Fixing's above ground needed more Attention..! Great use of waste Oil if you ask me. Which reminds me, my car needs an Oil Change..! Good luck to you..! Cheers to All.
just over 10 year ago every fence in the town was black and painted with a mix of old engine oil and creosote (Scotland) only needed to re cote every 5 or 6 years !
Hi Laid Back Homesteader. LOVE the vid! And I'd be really interested to see the results of how deep the soaking in vid you will be making later. OK: I'm doing research for preparing fencing posts for a pergola in my smallish garden (IE It is not on a farm etc). The pergola has had to be replaced every 10 years or so. I'd prefer it to last longer! I have clay soil. Do you think: a) Posts should be square or sharpened to a point? If so, why? (I see yours are sharpened). b) Should posts be set in concrete or go directly into soil? If no concrete is used, would this be different for clay soil? c) If concrete is used, should the posts poke through the concrete so the concrete acts as a collar rather than concrete cup (gathering water)? Also, as I have clay soil, apparently, I should not have gravel at the bottom of the pit for drainage, because instead it actually attracts water, encouraging it to pool. What do you think? d) How do I get hold of a post driving machine? The height of the pergola is about 8'. As it is a residential installation in a tight space with access only through a garage, is there any practical post driving machine option for wooden posts between 4" and 6" thick. Not bother; just dig it out? There will be 12 uprights. Thank you in advance, and keep up the good work. Steve
Hi Steve. Posts tend to rot where the post meets the top of the ground with moisture and air. Square or pointed? It depends where you are banging them into the ground, making it easier to drive or not. If your digging holes for them you'll have a flat surface for them to stay steady when working around and setting the them. Pointing the concrete will ensure water does not settle around the base. Look into forming concrete as an anchor and leave them sitting above the ground on a concrete base. That could be an option for you if your making a small pergola. I hope this helps you decide your path onward. Keep in touch. I'd like to know how you get on Peter
@@LaidBackHomesteader Hi there, Steve here again. (aka Squatter etc) OK; so I have now bought the posts at last. (I got delayed with various other problems to sort). I'm replacing my rotten pergola, which means rebuilding the lot. The fencing sales guy - who seemed pretty genuine - said that using old engine oil was not good, because it stinks, and the smell doesn’t go away. He said it’s v acidic or something. I said I didn’t have old engine oil anyway and was thinking of using new engine oil. He said that wouldn’t be a good idea either. But I can't remember why. He suggested a wood treatment product. But then said that it only lasts a couple of years before needing to be re-applied! Frankly, I want it to last 15 or more years! The posts are only pine, so could easily be susceptible to rot. The worst are the cross members. He explained that this is because they split, and then they deteriorate quite fast after that, so I definitely need to do something! Then Mr Google suggested linseed oil…. I don’t know. Try and get old engine oil from a local garage? New engine oil? Linseed? The posts have cost a Hell of lot - and that is only for soft pine. (I couldn’t find chestnut, which is supposed to last much longer). It would be a false economy either to make it so that it stank afterwards or that plants wouldn’t like it, but I really want to somehow protect it for the long term….. What do you think? Thanking you in advance and hoping all v well with you, Steve
hi. i have posts around my land and plants grow fine. the veg garden will have posts around them too. Keep an eye out im going to be cutting a post open doing absorption test end of august. should be uploaded mid sept 2023 @@squatterbdoss
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
Possibly. I got the old engine oil for free. I was told to mix it 50/50 with diesel to thin it down. That would have helped it soak into the posts but then the cost was starting to rise as fuel is £1.80 per litre in the uk and them posts where already treated someway and are guaranteed for 15 years at a price of £5.20 each. Im guessing they're pressure treated. A friend of a friend always has a few posts soaking for when he needs them. I was starting to soak them because I needed them all asap and I got lucky with the weather too. If I was to do better I'd do it inside leaving them to soak for at least a month each. Watch out for an upcoming video. I'm going to cut a post open to see how far the oil has penetrated.
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
I was trying to do it on the cheap. If I was going to spent alot of money I think concrete posts or recycled plastic posts would be the better option 🤔
The Romans used to soak there wood in the ground with whale fat! And there roads still exist. Modern man uses water based paint & puts speed bumps in the roads!
I do this and its way better than any wood treatment. BUT! Do not knock the bucket of oil into the flowerbed. That was 2 years ago and it's still not right.
Haha I have done more fencing from that video but didn't steep them in oil because I didn't have a level and sheltered place. You made my day a litter better 👍
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
@@LaidBackHomesteader cool, cheers. I’m just gathering enough oil to do the drill method as I’ve got a fair bit of fence that I don’t want to have to replace!
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
RESULTS OF A WATER TEST ON POSTS CARRIED OUT ..... check out the link here ..... ruclips.net/video/VWs6RLg6M-g/видео.html
23rd September 2023 ..... I'm releasing results from a test I've been waiting to do for a while now. It's on 3 different methods of preparing fence posts. 1 has been dipped in waste oil, 1 has been charred with fire and the 3rd was the base post as you would buy it from the timber yard. To check video out click the link!
I have oil soaked fence posts on my land that have been there about 100 years. I'm currently replacing them because the above ground parts have rotted. The oil soaked part underground was still good.
That's awesome. In a futurevideo I'm going cut open a post to see how much the oil soaked into the wood
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
No matter the wood, we use cedar untreated for fence posts and they always rot at ground level. The part underground can't get air so it will never rot but water when it rains will rot the post off at ground level every time.
Good job
Thanks David
I like your video and idea.
You did good.
Thank you 😊
To be fair, you could argue that any extra protection or treatment on those posts is environmentally friendly, doubling, tripling or extending their useful 'life' saves buying more, saves cutting down trees and the whole process of getting them to you.
That is what I'm aiming for. Saves the hassle of having to change them too
@@LaidBackHomesteader Nah my inner Yorkshireman was more,,, saves money!!
@@chrisjones2224 love it 😀
@@LaidBackHomesteader My dad always used to say, Your money is better off in your pocket than anyone else's, and joking apart, you are right re time and hassle, anything you can do now and moving forward to make things last longer, or make things easier, will pay off in the long run.
The thing is, there will always be something to do, and factor in sods law, last thing you need is changing half a dozen posts in mid January with Snow on the ground and minus 10 temps
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
My experience in the oil in the oil industry would suggest that oil in contact with normal soil near the ground surface will be eaten my microbes in a matter of a couple of weeks once the soil temperature is warmed to summer temperatures. This is the area that many post fail. Oil is not toxic enough to stop decay, it is actually good food for the things that cause wood decay.
Hi Brian, the more Microorganisms in the soil the better. Thats what Dr Elaine Ingham from the food soil web says so and I believe her. The microorganisms make nutrient's available to the plant. I'm going to try my hand at making compost tea this year
Done my fence with waste oil went on a treat looks great and will last year's better than the oil going to the landfill
NICE ONE . THANKS
No problem glad you enjoyed it
great idea
Thanks 😊
Years ago we used to mix creosote and oil together to do the same thing also used to paint our fences with it lasts for years
I knew you were irish before I hit play 😂👍👍
Born and bred
In my area at least we did this for years, as well as sprayed oil on our gravel roads to make "macadam"
Both practices have been outlawed
Something about water pollution killing fish and making water unsafe to drink for years
I'm sure what ever they put on the roads today is no better. There are plenty of guys still using waste oil throughout the countryside. If I had somewhere dry to store the posts I'd be doing more.
That'll increase the posts lifespan by at least 3 times.
I hope so. It'll hopefully do me until I'm retired 😆 lol
I was looking at my county's asphalt equipment out on the roads the other day, laughing to myself about how their job is basically to spill oil everywhere 😂 This seems like a great use for old oil, and a great way to extend the life of your timber.
I hope so too.
Subscriber from South Africa. Thanks brother for your knowledge, just to ask one question: if i can heat those poles in a dry barrel and light firewood then after i pour treatment in hot poles would you advise that?
The posts will dry out and split, but that will allow more oil to soak deeper into the wood. Be careful if you do this. It might be a bit risky using oil around an open fire.
Old fashioned tried methods i remember my first soaked posts still there just sayin 50 years on
50 years is good going.
Great informative video!👍
I think letting posts dry out and the cracks to open up before dipping them is the way to go!
I've had green treated stabs and strainers rot an fail inside 5 years, which I think is borderline fraud!!
I'm going cut my own larch posts removing all the sapwood and treat them with oil/ creosote like you from now on!
The good weather i had was helping me with the drying out process. Coating the posts is messy. You'd need to be working in a shed having plenty of posts soaking. Thanks for comment
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
I don't know about the 2 week soaking. I always let them soak for about 3 day's and good to go
I did a test and recon they will always soak up the moisture from the ground regardless. I think if they are coated at the point where post entries the ground rot will be slowed.
I would like to know if they actually last longer by doing that.
Me too! I'm going to do another fence this year and I'm going to do it without treating the posts. Tune in 10 years from now for an update, lol 😆
@@LaidBackHomesteader LMAO 10 years it is!! see you then
My Dad did the same thing to Fence posts when I was a Nipper, lastime I saw them 20 plus years later, they were still Solid.
The Fixing's above ground needed more Attention..!
Great use of waste Oil if you ask me.
Which reminds me, my car needs an Oil Change..!
Good luck to you..! Cheers to All.
Thanks for the feedback.
just over 10 year ago every fence in the town was black and painted with a mix of old engine oil and creosote (Scotland) only needed to re cote every 5 or 6 years !
My neighbours did the same. Alot of us had oil over us from leaning on it too lol
Hi Laid Back Homesteader. LOVE the vid! And I'd be really interested to see the results of how deep the soaking in vid you will be making later. OK:
I'm doing research for preparing fencing posts for a pergola in my smallish garden (IE It is not on a farm etc).
The pergola has had to be replaced every 10 years or so. I'd prefer it to last longer!
I have clay soil. Do you think:
a) Posts should be square or sharpened to a point? If so, why? (I see yours are sharpened).
b) Should posts be set in concrete or go directly into soil? If no concrete is used, would this be different for clay soil?
c) If concrete is used, should the posts poke through the concrete so the concrete acts as a collar rather than concrete cup (gathering water)?
Also, as I have clay soil, apparently, I should not have gravel at the bottom of the pit for drainage, because instead it actually attracts water, encouraging it to pool. What do you think?
d) How do I get hold of a post driving machine? The height of the pergola is about 8'. As it is a residential installation in a tight space with access only through a garage, is there any practical post driving machine option for wooden posts between 4" and 6" thick. Not bother; just dig it out? There will be 12 uprights.
Thank you in advance, and keep up the good work.
Steve
Hi Steve.
Posts tend to rot where the post meets the top of the ground with moisture and air. Square or pointed? It depends where you are banging them into the ground, making it easier to drive or not. If your digging holes for them you'll have a flat surface for them to stay steady when working around and setting the them.
Pointing the concrete will ensure water does not settle around the base.
Look into forming concrete as an anchor and leave them sitting above the ground on a concrete base. That could be an option for you if your making a small pergola.
I hope this helps you decide your path onward.
Keep in touch. I'd like to know how you get on
Peter
@@LaidBackHomesteader Thank you so much for getting back to me. I've noted your comments. V helpful. Let's see how I get on
@@LaidBackHomesteader Hi there, Steve here again. (aka Squatter etc)
OK; so I have now bought the posts at last. (I got delayed with various other problems to sort).
I'm replacing my rotten pergola, which means rebuilding the lot.
The fencing sales guy - who seemed pretty genuine - said that using old engine oil was not good, because it stinks, and the smell doesn’t go away. He said it’s v acidic or something.
I said I didn’t have old engine oil anyway and was thinking of using new engine oil. He said that wouldn’t be a good idea either. But I can't remember why.
He suggested a wood treatment product.
But then said that it only lasts a couple of years before needing to be re-applied!
Frankly, I want it to last 15 or more years!
The posts are only pine, so could easily be susceptible to rot. The worst are the cross members. He explained that this is because they split, and then they deteriorate quite fast after that, so I definitely need to do something!
Then Mr Google suggested linseed oil….
I don’t know. Try and get old engine oil from a local garage? New engine oil? Linseed?
The posts have cost a Hell of lot - and that is only for soft pine. (I couldn’t find chestnut, which is supposed to last much longer).
It would be a false economy either to make it so that it stank afterwards or that plants wouldn’t like it, but I really want to somehow protect it for the long term…..
What do you think?
Thanking you in advance and hoping all v well with you,
Steve
hi. i have posts around my land and plants grow fine. the veg garden will have posts around them too. Keep an eye out im going to be cutting a post open doing absorption test end of august. should be uploaded mid sept 2023 @@squatterbdoss
@@LaidBackHomesteader Nice 1. Thank you. I'll look out for that vid. That will really tell a story!
A nice little battery angle grinder would be easier ! 🤣
Definitely would have made it a better fit
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
would cresote have been a better option instead of oil ?
Possibly. I got the old engine oil for free. I was told to mix it 50/50 with diesel to thin it down. That would have helped it soak into the posts but then the cost was starting to rise as fuel is £1.80 per litre in the uk and them posts where already treated someway and are guaranteed for 15 years at a price of £5.20 each. Im guessing they're pressure treated. A friend of a friend always has a few posts soaking for when he needs them. I was starting to soak them because I needed them all asap and I got lucky with the weather too. If I was to do better I'd do it inside leaving them to soak for at least a month each. Watch out for an upcoming video. I'm going to cut a post open to see how far the oil has penetrated.
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
Another way is to just use bitumen primer,available from roofing suppliers.
I was trying to do it on the cheap. If I was going to spent alot of money I think concrete posts or recycled plastic posts would be the better option 🤔
The Romans used to soak there wood in the ground with whale fat! And there roads still exist. Modern man uses water based paint & puts speed bumps in the roads!
Haha love it.
Great channel new subscriber 🙌
Thanks Davy. I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the channel. If there's anything you would like to see comment it and I'll do my best 👍
I do this and its way better than any wood treatment. BUT! Do not knock the bucket of oil into the flowerbed. That was 2 years ago and it's still not right.
Haha I have done more fencing from that video but didn't steep them in oil because I didn't have a level and sheltered place. You made my day a litter better 👍
How does the water drained I thought the water might just stay in there.
Im not 100 percent sure what you mean. The oil helps preserve the wood, slowing decay. The post is most vulnerable at ground level.
Rainwater getting into those drums will drive you mad. Move everything indoors.
Will do thanks
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
Or are those far lighter then they look?
Yeah, they were pretty dry to be fair!
A covering of those large stones in the bottom of the drum would do
People must have been doing this for centuries, that must be why the turf burns so well, all the used engine oil in the ground! 😂
Lol. I'd love to see how they took the engine oil outta the donkey lol 😆 😂 🤣
Can this be done with any oil? I have a barrel of frying oil. I’d love to know.
It's oil I can't see why not. You could turn it into biofuel, too!
Let me know how you get on cheers
I'm getting ready to slather the wood floor on my trailer in used motor oil. I see very little eco downside.
Have you ever done this before?
That could be messy. What is the trailer used for?
Bro you are so strong
Thanks 😊
A covering of the large stones in the bottom of the drum would do
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
If yournin many warmer climates, termites will eat them
Allways do that
Cut post in half to look at oil
Need to see it ill have any spare
Hi Adrian. I'm going to cut a post open to check how far the oil has penetrated. It would be cool to see. Thanks for the idea!
@@LaidBackHomesteader did you get to do this?
@Medial A drying posts at the moment. I'm going to test 3 posts end of this summer to see how much water they absorb and then I'll cut a.post open
@@LaidBackHomesteader cool, cheers. I’m just gathering enough oil to do the drill method as I’ve got a fair bit of fence that I don’t want to have to replace!
Maybe mix in creosote with the oil
I looked into it but creosote is expensive too
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
I was about to ask if i can mix at least 5lt Creosote, thanks you already answered my quetion
Better than creosote ... ..
Hi. I've just a test to see how much water is absorbed into dried and treated posts. The video will be released 23rd September 2023. Thanks for watching, Pete
Where are your power tools? You need a cordless grinder and a sawzall.
That video was about 19 months ago. A battery saw has been purchased 👌
Tis is bad real bad the motor olie wil die in the ground water 1drop 1000 litter gows bad like my Engels 😂
You should see what asphalt roads do. This is minimal.