😮ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST! WHAT CAN POSSIBLY BE WRONG WITH A BRAND NEW ENTEGRA RV? Emblem 36U
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- Опубликовано: 9 авг 2023
- We were asked to inspect this brand new Entegra Emblem 36U RV, the second RV inspection for our customers, as the first one was a bust :
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We found that Entegra is far from flawless! What could possibly be wrong with a brand new, hot off the line Entegra RV?
History doesn’t always repeat itself!
The second time around is sometimes the best in store.
From CT to GA, this brand-new RV had its issues, as found in every new RV. We are walking you through the typical RV inspection day of a brand-new Entegra RV and all its findings.
Brand new you thought! What can be wrong? Especially at the price we are paying!!
Now, time for you to send your CRL list (Create Repair List) to the service department and hope for all issues to be corrected before your final signature.
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You are right on the batteries. With a residential fridge you want four 6V. Those are AGM; $300+ each...
All new RV,s need an inspection and a re-inspection after so-called repairs are done . Buyer beware . The manufacturer should show this video to the board of directors 😮 and CEO. Thank you for educating RVers.
We agree that every RV needs an inspection, and it's sad to know that many people don't realize they need it! And more people don't even know that inspectors exist 😒
Exactly this is insane.
I don't understand how that got out of the factory like that...
Where is the QC? It's Lacking!!
The Question is . Did the dealer Do a PDI Yet ? The dealer needs to catch all that be fore customer get it
Probably didn't inspect
They do not care at all
"If this is top dog, the dog's gotta go back in the dog house" 🤣
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We were going to buy a new RV but since watching your videos and hearing reports of bad manufacturing we decided to look more at used 2019-2020 just before the big lock down surge. Thank you , you have given myself & my husband the knowing what to look for. ❤
If we were able to help one person today, we didn'tlive in vain...it was you 🤣😁
I worked in the field of quality all my life: when a manufacturer don't care about what is seeable, imagine about the status of all the rest that you can't see...
On top of it....that's where we'll search for that Bone everytime 🙂
Great video guys! Izzy and MJ post updates on how the RV market is slowing down and I know the economy certainly plays a role but I have to wonder if people are catching on as to the ridiculously poor quality of these production RVs and are shifting gears on how they want to spend their vacation funds!? 😱🤷♂️
We don't reach enough people fast enough for them to be aware of the industry's quality or lack there of
I don't own an RV, don't particularly like RV's, don't care about RV's, but it's fun to watch pros work. Good vids!
Thank you John! Glad you enjoyed 😉
You are awesome. It's disgusting how badly some of these RVs are prepared and finished. Our 27 year old Thor TT was made and finished better than that Class A. We sold that trailer and upgraded to a 2016 Forest River TT that we inspected. Only issue was a small tear in the flooring where a toy was snagged under the slide. It was easy to fix, and we have only had to do normal and regular maintenance to keep it in good shape. We did do a MorRyde heavy duty shackle upgrade which turned out to be a great upgrade. I don't know if I will ever buy a new RV after seeing the condition of the RVs you have been inspecting.
I totally hear you
I hope the plant manger at Entegra is watching this video with the people on the line who made this coach.Amazing what the assembly plant leaves for the dealers to fix.
Common occurrence
Great Job Guys, I went to National RV I thought they were ripping me off on a Sprinter; I got mine at Sunshine State RV Gainsville, Fl, and Saved 5K on the same unit.
I didn't see any difference from any other dealerships out there. Chase your price and do not fall for the glittering or bootiful salespeople...the service department is as good as the people working there and their craftsmanship.
Another great inspection on a brand new RV that has numerous issues. I don’t know that I would want this RV the way that slide didn’t close properly. I love the house battery tip 👍🏼 I owned a 2022 Entegra class C, and for me, they are far from a quality manufacturer. Thanks again for another entertaining and informative video. Stay safe 🙏🏼
Thank you 😊
Entegra told me personally they were top of the line compare to a lot of high end units out there 😍
Wow...glad I found you folks. I am considering buying an Entegra/Jayco Class C rig in the next year. Hopefully the quality improves ! (??) I looked a travel trailer a couple of months ago that was on sale with stated hail damage. The said a couple vents had been replaced. I put down a deposit and we scheduled a pdi. I talked to an RV inspector to schedule and before the PDI the dealer called and said that after the sale we would have to schedule a roof replacement in June. (this was in March). I of course backed out. Another note.....the manufacturer date on the trailer vin tage was 1/23. The was 03/24. I also fount that this rig had been setting in the Texas sun for a full year. Buyer beware and do your due diligence.
Make sure to reach out and go check our website
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A bust for me 😮 well done !!!!
Thanks Steve!
Wow great job ,
much much appreciated!!
I wish I knew about you before purchasing my Entegra 2 years ago. Would have saved me time and money. Was my first RV purchase, and looking back, the dealer was an EXPERT at rushing me through any basic inspection efforts while seeming polite and friendly the entire time. Purchasers need to know this.
Typical MO of any salesperson in the RV industry 🙄 ...look here, look there, see how beautiful your dream is about to be if you don't see all the things I'm trying to deflect for you to see 😉 ...
They are professionals. At selling 🙂
People need to know their tactics and goal 🙄 sell, sell, sell...right?
Your channel has convinced me to never buy an RV, too bad because I've always wanted one. One would think that spending that kind money would insure a well build machine and quality for the long haul, but its obvious to me the Manufacture expects the buyer to be the QA department and the poor dealer is stuck with shoddy workmanship to work thru and poor engineering to boot. The materials are crap and when you do have a leak (and you eventually will) the materials will disintegrate. The good news might be that as long as it never gets wet, its all good!
Your video is very enlightening and well done. We have a 2012 Tiffin Phaeton 36QSH- it is a definite stow and go floor plan. Love the floor plan. Bought the RV in 2012 and have every intention of keeping it it. Keeping it maintained properly is far less costly than a new one and we know what we have. My question is- if you order a new RV, can you have it inspected PRIOR to giving the dealer the check. Once they get your money you are at their mercy with their lame excuses and promises.
Exactly how you should process!
Give a deposit, contingent to my independent inspection and findings in their report being addressed and corrected, we will then sit down to sign your paperwork!
It's your money, your rules. People are afraid to stand up for their rights of being treated respectfully. The dealership tactics is simple; anything will be said to get your money, than your transferred to the service department and we don't remember your name!
😺Your videos are great! Humourous and informative. The kids at the end so cute 😂. My wife and I tent and stay in hotels. This is solid education should we decide to get a travel trailer.
RVing becomes an adventure for sure 🙂
You two are great, and I wouldn’t buy an Rv without an inspection. I bought a class A in 2016 from a big dealer without an inspection before I got home the drivers side mirror was about to fall off. They claim to have fixed the things I found but that was a joke also. Please keep up the good work.
Thanks for sharing!
Great job guys!
Thank you🤙
You guys are THE BEST! It was such an honor meeting you two in Hershey last week. We have learned SO MUCH from your videos and will never buy without giving you guys a shout first! Keep up the amazing work, stay safe, and God bless! 🙏 🇺🇲
Thanks for chiming in 🙂
In Massachusetts!!! Learning so much from your channel. Thank you!!
Thanks for chiming in 😁
Great Video!! Learned alot !! Thanks !!
Thank you, our goal is to help folks like you😊
I love watching your page this teaches us
Your welcome
Another great inspection as always. you two are the bomb. Thanks Don
We appreciate you 🤙
Great job as usual!
Thank you! Cheers!
As seniors, my wife and I have dreamed about an RV lifestyle. After watching many of your videos, we have decided not to invest into a depreciating asset with such limited guarantee of manufacturing quality! Thank you! We will drive in our lovely vehicle (very nice) and stay in high end Hotels instead. It’s a no brainer. Love you guys❣️
Happy travels🙂
@@blueoxontherun9188 subscribed to your channel and like all videos❣️
A lot of the dealers don't seem to take pride in their products, given the condition of the RVs they're selling.
Right?
love the kids great advice. thank you
Our pleasure!
Another great video full of lessons!
They don't seal the showers (and don't do a bunch of other things) because it takes labor, and they can't get laborers. Should they then just skip all that sealing, etc. and sell them like that?...NOPE! They should take the time required to do it right. It just goes to show you that even Entegra has very little Integrity. Buyer beware and get that complete inspection!
That's the message we try to convey to people. It's not about your satisfaction, it's about their bottom dollar. You need to protect yourself!
Again. Not surprised. Couldn't give me a Class A. Had 2 of them and one was a Holiday Rambler. Total POS. Got a Flagstaff 5th wheel for the past 2 years. Totally awesome. Keep up the good work guys. Wish I would have had an inspection. Would've saved me about 100k. 🎹🎷🎸🎤😀
Hey Skip...nice to hear from you!! Thanks for watching!!
Wow, that slide!
Isn't it crazy. If I had been on a taller ladder, I could have fit my whole arm through!! A dang raccoon could come in for snacks!!😱
@@blueoxontherun9188 yes indeed. Just like us. We would have never known about what was wrong with ours if we didn't have you guys inspect it. Oh by the way...the shower still leaks. We are ripping that thing out. It's got to go!
Smart move in my book
If it's to good to be true, it usually is.... Highly recommend the process... Higher the professional....👍🇱🇷
Appreciate your comments Mr Ray 🙏
They don't care. And expect sales. I am so grateful for you guys videos. ❤❤❤❤❤1000000
Thank you, we appreciate the kind vote of confidence!
Very good video! Good inspection procedure!
This is an excellent and accessible floor plan when the slides are in and occupants are traveling, in spite of a few observed design flaws. The chassis also requires upgrades to provide a better handling and driving experience. Two additional batteries is a good suggestion.
When negotiating the purchase make your best deal. You will be spending more money on improving drivability after the sale.
That's for sure...especially those 🤨
You guy's are the best and show that with another great video. Thank you for showing me things to look for if and when I ever buy another RV. It just goes to show you the RV companies are not doing the best work but are charging top dollar all the same. What ever happened to pride in workmanship? Oh yeah that took a back seat to making money.
Speaking of making money the dealer and sales person do not care if the unit has problems they just want your money while telling you all the crap they will do once you buy it. Well don't fall for that trap as then it may or may not ever get fixed and will take months for shoddy work to be done. Get it fixed before you sign on the dotted line.
While it's only my personal opinion I think every buyer should have a inspection done. If they do then the shoddy builds will have to change an get better. I know not even in my dreams.
An inspector works for the buyer and only the buyer. They just list what they have found and then it's up to the buyer to use that information as they see fit. I look at an inspection as cheap insurance to make sure what is being bought is what it's being hyped up to be. Personally I would have the same inspector reinspect the rig once thing are said to be repaired as they fix it all. Friends have had inspections done and then had it inspected again only to find out the dealer service guys broke something doing the repairs and never said a word about it or fix it either. Crap happens I understand that but not saying a thing about it shows a person all they need to know about the dealer.
So a inspection may run one or two percent of the cost of the rig. You can get back some of that cost by telling the dealer you will not pay for the PDI as they could not have a good job of it or their wouldn't be so many thing wrong. Why pay for work that was not done?
Great catch on the missing batteries! Same for no extension on the inside tires. Who does such crappie things like that. What does a extension cost? Under 20 bucks I bet. No I would not have caught that one myself and probably not the extra batteries either. Who checks the fans out? I have never really checked them much either so that one would have slipped by me.
That's why you hire a inspector because they do check things like that. That save me a tub of time and yes money too. So thank you for another great video and teaching us just how important hiring an inspector is. You save us from ourselves as we are only looking at the things and places we are going in the rig. We buyers can be blinded by the unit and the salesperson oh so easily.
Mark, thanks for explaining what we do and the intent behind our services. You've summarized everything we try to teach people, for them to avoid falling in this dealership trap....thanks for chiming in 😁
Holy cow.
A dirty new RV.
Mine was at the Hershey Show in sept 2019.
When I went to see it at the dealership, it was spotless in March 2020.
Slide installation is the most important item, re-adjusting it is very difficult.
Tire pressure access is life safety
Happy to see it worked out good for you 👍
They did have almost 6 months to clean it tho 🤣
Looks like there is no quality control at the factory.
Tell me there is and I will challenge you 🤣
Appreciate your attention to detail. We looked at several Entegra Class A motorhomes when buying our rig. They looked really good, but had quality control issues like you showed in the video. Its like they don't care or have a QC process at the factory. Had lots of the bells and whistles, but didn't all work properly. Drove one unit and the road noise was terrible. Happy with our Tiffin MH.
Love it 😀 🤣🤣.
Entegra are big talkers and maybe over selling their quality you think ?
That was our experience when shopping for a motorhome. They seemed to be a good deal until we looked at the details. Saw one new unit at a dealership that the passenger seat wasn't working. I looked underneath the seat and found the electrical plug was loose. Plugged it in and it worked! Seems to be a general industry trend, crank the units out and don't worry about quality. I know there will be little things to fix on a motorhome, but the slide issue you found is crazy. Nice path for mice and other critters to find a way into the rv. Appreciate your videos. We will upgrade to a larger DP at some point but WILL get it inspected for sure. Wouldn't buy a new home or investment property without an inspection, won't consider a MH without an inspection. If a dealer won't allow a NIVRA inspection, we will go elsewhere. @@blueoxontherun9188
My slide needs to be perfect!!!where is my 4 batteries?
🤣 right ?
Nice job. Again. Go. BO
Thank you Mark!
I believe I see how the price is so good!!
Right?! 😕😳
That slide!! I see that on the road all the time. Such a shame.
Me too 🤣🤣
Late to the party but you both continue to impress me with your meticulous inspection and outright honesty, which is quite refreshing. You just tell it like it is.
Entegra is supposed to be one of the best but clearly, quality leaves something to be desired in this coach. Fortunately, it is fixable but NOT on the day you pick it up.
I appreciate the shout out and pledge to buy the first shirt. 😃
🤣🤣🤣 I will give it you !
Pool noodles at the bottom of the slide for seals what the heck it’s only a couple hundred thousand dollar rig
Expensive noodles 😉
Wow! I thought Entegra was a quality name. The dealer's PDI needs massive improvements.
Dealership will never care to loose time on a PDI which stands for " Probably Didn't Inspect "...
The manufacturer don't seems to have QC either at their facility ! Every time we talk with representatives from the manufacturer, they like to claim how fantastic of a job they do....I will challenge them on that, every time on every units.
We Inspect those constantly 😉
Ask for two more batteries because there is room for two more.
Right??🤣
@@blueoxontherun9188 I’m writing everything down that you all do. We are about to tour the country and we are looking for something used and made before 2020. Thank you for doing the research for us.
Anytime 😉
Just reach out!
Www.blueoxrvinspection.com
Maybe they should have the factory workers watch one of your videos, see how they react
That would be a show by itself 🤣🤣 " it's not me, it's him" 🤣
@@blueoxontherun9188 that’s what I’m saying it would be priceless to looks on their faces watching everybody point at each other
I wish you guys were out here in California , we’re looking for a Class A.
Some people fly us in...we're heading to Yuma AZ next week to do a Dutch Star 😉
@@blueoxontherun9188 Have inspection kit, will travel. Wire Pierre
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You didn't say anything about the two batteries. lol
Never even insinuated nothing🤣
We're thinking of buying a 2024 thor outlaw 29j toy hauler. Near the factory in indiana. Would you be able to inspect it or have a referral by the way great job
Please reach out to us www.blueoxrvinspection.com
Just curious, do you watch any of the outher inspection channels like AZ Expert?
I do and looking forward to meet up and get some insights from another knowledgeable person. Always learn every day to get better at your trade!
room for 2 more batteries 🪫 😂
It's always worth asking🤣what's the worst that can happen🤔🤣
They have all gone bad someone needs to write a song about bad RV dealers and manufacturers
C4BO!
What about bug’s getting in when the slide is out
Bah! Get over yourself they say , its a freakin RV 🙄🤨
@@blueoxontherun9188 not if I’m going to pay close to 200k it better be perfect
This is Laurel...Ugh bugs, I was thinking more about snakes and rodents. I could fit my wrist outside. The critters would have a hay day while the owners were away!😱
What Dealer was that At ? Did that coach have a PDI yet ? Man that coach was in Bad shape !!
You don't want to know 🤣
NIRVC looks like to Me Can not believe that coach Had a PDI done @@blueoxontherun9188
What a shame this is what the industry puts out.
Another Bust
That is sad to see on that level of coach. What dealership? Have you ever delt with NIRVC?
How would you know it was there 🤔 🤣🤣 I didn't say that 😉
"How would you know it was there" Just because I pay attention to details.
Comment On the slide, I don't think it was adjusted correctly as it should be closed with no gap at the bottom. I wonder if it should have a seal and it was not installed. Can you check a different coach?
After watching it again what it looks like to me. When they heard you were coming to do the inspection they decided to wait and see what you found.
It is sad that a company like Entegra puts out this pore quality product.
It's is flabergasting from dealers to manufacturers how they do not care.
You're right about doing nothing when they know we are coming ..🥴
Do you give a copy of what you find to the dealer or just to the customer?@@blueoxontherun9188
I would pass on this little unit!! Personally!
Isn't it sad! 🙄😱
Why would anyone buy one of these units with the Quality being so poor these days?
That is the question 🤔
If a snake can get in it's not sealed enough for me
Eeebee geebee right there !😆
C4BO
How many batteries? lol
🤣🤣🤣
That’s a pass for me.
Well....we just talked to the customer yesterday. Everything was fixed, addressed and adjusted and operate as intended without paying a dime !!!
They are driving back to VA🤙
@@blueoxontherun9188 Amazing to hear. Congratulations to the buyers.
Around us in Canada the dealers are overlooking the ‘flaws’ and hard to work with since the good quick sales they had through 2020.
You’ve restored my faith in good dealers out there. TY for sharing you knowledge. 🇺🇸🇨🇦
And this is a brand new coach ??
Brand spanking new 🤨
Wow just wow - I am the last person to want government further into our lives, but this is only going to be stopped with regulation. It is the only way that they will be held accountable for this. Either that, or the dealerships will have to unite and tell them no more, but that isn't happening. Even down to the plumbing, I have done plumbing on the side before and the plumbing that was in a coach that I looked at last weekend is using plumbing that would be red tagged anywhere else, why? Because there is no regulation on RV manufactures quality control. These rigs are supposed to be a joy to our lives, for many their homes, and it has turned many into nightmares that won't stop. I know having regulation will push the price up a bit, but it will be cheaper than losing a fortune on a rig that won't make it out of the dealership.
They are all overpriced IMHO anyway for the quality of materials
C 4 B O 😊
Thanks James
c4bo
What ever happened to pride in workmanship? No excuse for the manufacturers to send these out even more so Dealers just don’t Give a crap.Absolutely ridiculous would take business elsewhere.
It is pathetic 😒
Seems like all these RV's are built with soddy workmanship. What an expensive rip-off~!
C4bo
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You couldn't pay me to take a new RV. Over-priced junk. Compare these to the high end Monaco's and Country Coaches from 20 years ago.....no comparison in build quality.
No comparison at all. Greed took over proudness and quality
according to Entegra they make a final inspection in house. if they, the unit, comes out looking like this from the factory, then they might as well get rid of this position at the factory, he is not doing his job properly
That person is definitely a "no show" on a lot of Entegra's 😉
Totally ridiculous
National Indoor RV NIRVC sneaky company. All new RVS are junk after 2016 Thor bought Entegra all junk. The quality standard with Entegra is a joke...... BUY NEWMAR!!
Have you watch our 2 latest videos about Newmar ? 😬
What does an inspection cost for that size unit?
Anywhere from $1k to $2k depending on your inspector's knowledge and experience.
@@blueoxontherun9188 Thank you. You 2 detectives are life and money saver in your field. 1 or 2k is money well spent for your knowledge.
For people who like to gamble....there's always Vegas right ?! 🤣🤣
c4bo Thanks
Come on Entegra...get your heads out your 🫏 's!!, I would be embarrassed to put out a product like this. The huge gape in the slide
Don't you think 🤔?
C4BO
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Thanks for chiming in 😁
C4BO
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Thank you!
C4BO
Thank you David
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Thank you Frank!